Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! - WWDTM: Ibtihaj Muhammad

Episode Date: June 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The House of Representatives has approved a White House request to claw back two years of previously approved funding for public media. The rescissions package now moves on to the Senate. This move poses a serious threat to local stations and public media as we know it. Please take a stand for public media today at GoACPR.org. Thank you. ["The Voice"] From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I'm the voice so creamy, you better take some lactate. ["The Voice"] ["The Voice"] ["The Voice"] ["The Voice"] ["The Voice"] ["The Voice"] ["The Voice"] ["The Voice"] Bill Curtis is the name and here is your host at the Studebaker Theater at the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Segel.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Thank you, Bill. Thanks, everybody. Thank you so much. It's great to be back with you. We do have a great show for you today. Later on, we're going to be joined by champion fencer Ibtihaj Mohammed, who is a pioneer in multiple ways, the first Muslim American woman to win an Olympic medal, the first black woman to win an Olympic medal in saber fencing, and the first celebrity guest I have insisted
Starting point is 00:01:19 come to our show unarmed. But I'm not afraid of you, so give us a call to play our game in the air. The number is 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. Now let's welcome our first listener contestant. Hi, you're on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hi, Peter. It's Andrew from beautiful British Columbia, Vancouver. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, wow. Not that right. Normally, wouldn't one say Vancouver, British Columbia, or is that like a weird Canadian
Starting point is 00:01:46 thing you guys do? You say the province first. No, no, I just got nervous. I'm assuming we can edit that. All right. What do you do in that beautiful place? Well, I have two kids, one of which we're trying to potty train right now. So in my spare time, I work in healthcare here locally.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Can I ask a question? Because I've recently been through this. What do you use, if anything, as a reward for successfully using the potty? We tried stickers. High-fives seem to work really well. I'm just going for enthusiasm at this point. Yes, I applaud you for touching their hands. That's great.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Andrew, it's great to have you on our show. Let me introduce you you for touching their hands. That's great. Andrew, it's great to have you on our show. Let me introduce you to our panel this week. First up, a comedian headlining the plus in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, August 16th and 17th, and the hereafter in Seattle, September 5th through the 7th, it's Hari Khandebolu. Next, you know her from the hit TikTok show, Boy Room. It's Rachel Koster. Hi, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Hi, Rachel. And making his debut on our panel, if not on our show, a comedian and actor you know from somebody somewhere on HBO, his new book is called Actress of a Certain Age. It's Jeff Hiller. Hi, Andrew. High five. His new book is called Actress of a Certain Age. It's Jeff Hiller. Hi, Andrew. High five. Well, welcome to the show, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:03:12 You're going to play Who's Bill this time. Bill Curtis is going to perform for you three quotations from this week's news. Your job is simply identify or explain two of them. You will win our prize. Any voice from our show you might choose in your voicemail. Are you ready to go? As I'll ever be. Okay, here we go. Your first quote is from an agitated resident of Venice, Italy this
Starting point is 00:03:34 week. We can't miss a chance to disrupt a $10 million wedding. What billionaire's multimillion dollar wedding is making everyone in Venice mad? Oh, wow. I have no idea. Can I get a hint? Sure you can. Well they considered getting married in the Amazon but that would be too on the nose. Um, oh, Bezos. Yes, Jeff Bezos! Jeff Bezos, yes! Jeff Bezos' longtime girlfriend Lauren San Sanchez, is finally going to make an honest man out
Starting point is 00:04:07 of him. You know, it's really kind of hard for me to joke about this because I just love love. The very big wedding is scheduled for next week in Venice and people there are furious that he is using their ancient city as an event venue. Bezos though has convinced Miss Sanchez that every single word the crowds are shouting at them is just Italian for Mazel Tov. It's really going to be great when the minister at the wedding says, if anybody has any reasons why this couple should not be wed, please join the mob outside. Three days.
Starting point is 00:04:48 The wedding's going for three days. Yes. What are they, Indian? This is ridiculous. And we all paid for this. We did. Yes. We all paid one 16 pack of Charmin at a time.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Exactly. You're right. This is why your fee for Prime went up five bucks, so he could afford the extra canapes. I can't believe he's getting married. I thought he was anti-union. Oh! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:05:14 Oh! Seems like a total luck. Wow. Wow. The Venetians are up in oars about this. There wasn't an appropriate place to put that joke earlier in the segment. I strategically put it here hoping it could be edited in later. Alright here is your next quote. We'll deliver long distance calling and all American service. That was the Trump Organization.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Yes, announcing their brand new $500 gold colored what? Cell phone? Yes, their new phone, the Trump phone. Trump is now selling a phone and wireless service. The phone will be 500 bucks in painted gold. Tech watchers who are trying to piece together the specs on it say the battery life won't be great, but that's the price you pay for being an early adopter of the first ever phone that runs on coal.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Being a Trump phone, it will come with unlimited texting as part of the plan and it will have the first ever keyboard to not have any lowercase letters. It's just so gaudy. My god. I mean, also I would never, but still like. I would have to say the aesthetics do appeal to me. Do they really? I think it's extremely fancy.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Gold does make my teeth look whiter. And my smile brighter. I fell for the stakes. I fell for the college. I fell for the ties. The teddy bear toy bank. Yeah, I have so much Trump crick-po-corn, but I'm not getting the phone. Fool me once, then you can do it three more times, but that's it.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's it. All right, here is your last quote. It's about apparently what is the hot new thing that young people are doing this summer. Get your highlighters ready. That's a headline in The Cut about how this summer, people are lining up not for concerts or comedy or sporting events, but for what? Reading?
Starting point is 00:07:37 Reading, yes, to study. They're going to lectures. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! People are flocking to bars in cities around the country to listen to lectures. Hey, you want to get dressed up, do some Mali and compare the impact of the Coptic and Assyrian churches in the fourth century? Yes, you would. I should have...
Starting point is 00:08:01 That is true. You're really speaking to the choir. No, no. I'm going to break your hearts. We made that up. That's not happening. I'm sorry. There's one big series in New York called Lectures on Tap that is expanding across the country. Every time they announce a series, they sell out. It's taking off as a great summer activity because your lecture body is a lot easier
Starting point is 00:08:12 to maintain than your beach body. This is old news. I'm not sure if you've ever heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. Once a series, they sell out. It's taking off as a great summer activity because your lecture body is a lot easier to maintain than your beach body. This is old news. Lectures and bars, that's happened for years.
Starting point is 00:08:32 They're called hurricane-de-bulu comedy shows. Thanks. Are you jealous that none of these people who appear in talking bars have any obligation to be funny? I have no obligation to be funny. You do it as charity. Once I get the check, it's on you. I think, as someone who is on the brink of 50, that this sounds amazing. And I hope that they start at 3 p.m.
Starting point is 00:09:05 and they end by 5 p.m. I hope you still get cool credit for it and you can have like one beer and then just like a water to properly hydrate and then you go home and you get to bed by 8.30. Yeah. That sounds like a rager to me. And if you really hip and you get to bed by 8.30. Yeah. That sounds like a rager to me. And if you're really hip and you get invited to the after lecture, that's over by nine.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Oh, that's a crazy night. Instead of IPAs, are they serving GPAs? Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thank you. As you said, Harry, no obligation to be funny. No obligation. I'm here. Bill, how did Andrew do in our quiz?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Two out of three, which means he has won. Congratulations. Thank you so much for playing. Good luck with the potty training and remember, they're going to get it before they go to college. Probably. Probably.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Take care. Thank you. Bye-bye. Panel, now it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Hari, a new dating service has this amazing innovation. They match people based on their what? Race. No.
Starting point is 00:10:34 That's hinge. Height. No. Blood type? No. Peter, I might need a hint. You might, and I have one for you. And yes, it counts even when you're in incognito mode. Rachel's jaw just dropped.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You can't believe it, but it's true. Your browser history? Yes, Harry. Oh, these people are sick. They're sick. A new service called Browser Dating uses people's last 5,000 internet sources to create a new internet service. And it's a great way to get people to know that you're in a new internet service.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And it's a great way to get people to know that you're sick a new service called browser dating uses people's last 5,000 internet searches Find the perfect match for them think about the time you will save on a first date when both of you start off knowing in detail Exactly, what's wrong with each other? I in detail exactly what's wrong with each other. I have never thought, oh man, I'm looking for a woman that loves to read baseballreference.com for hours at a time. Well, looking up old statistics.
Starting point is 00:11:35 But wouldn't that be great? I mean, because the idea is... I want someone who makes me better. That's not dead. Coming up, do not go to Lollapalooza without listening to our Bluff the Listener game first. It's a matter of safety. Call 1-888-WAITWAIT-TO-PLAY. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPO. Decades ago, Brazilian women made a discovery. They could have an abortion without a doctor, thanks to a tiny pill. That pill spawned a global movement, helping millions of women
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Starting point is 00:13:08 our rapidly changing world. Listen to the Consider This Podcast from NPR. ["Consider This Podcast," by Bill Curtis and Rachel Kostner, and the NPR News Quiz Show, is playing.] From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is, Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We are playing this week with Hari Kandabolu, Jeff Hiller, and Rachel Koster.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Segel. Thank you, Bill. Thanks, everybody. Right now, it is time for the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me Bluff, the listener game. Call 1-888-WAIT-WAIT to play our game in the air or check out the pinned post on our Instagram page that's at Wait Wait NPR. Hi, you're on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. Hi, this is Carrie Roberts.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I'm calling from North Ogden, Utah. North Ogden, Utah, a beautiful place. We're actually coming out to Utah at the end of July to do a show in Salt Lake City. We're looking forward to it. What do you do there? I actually work for Weill Cornell Medicine in New York City remotely. I work in the Office of Faculty Affairs. Oh really?
Starting point is 00:14:10 So you work in New York City, but you live in Utah. That is a pretty good deal. That's true. Kerry, welcome to the show. You're going to play the game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction. Bill, what is Kerry's topic? Baderoo la Palooza. Summer music festivals are coming up.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That's where you go to hear great new bands and play that classic game, alcohol poisoning or heat stroke. But our panelists are going to tell you about a surprising issue that some music festival attendees this summer will be facing. Pick the one who's telling the truth and you'll win our prize, the weight waiter of your choice on your voicemail. Are you ready to go? I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Let's do it first. Let's hear from Hari Kandabolu. Prior to this year's download music festival in Leicestershire, England, local police put out a statement asking fans not to wear smartwatches. The problem? Last year, people moshing while wearing wearing smart watches triggered the watch's collision detectors
Starting point is 00:15:07 which sent out automated emergency 999 calls. 999 is the UK version of 911 because they are less creative than we are. In a Facebook post, the police said their resources were strained because, quote, all those calls had to be assessed to ensure there is no threat, risk, or harm. Little did they know moshing means there is lots of threat, risk, and harm, but by choice. This request not to wear smart watches was particularly aimed at fans of festival headliners and new metal pioneers, Korn, who are known for their intense mosh pits. Weezer is also playing at the festival, but this is less of a concern considering mosh
Starting point is 00:15:53 pits at a Weezer concert are just nerds bumping into each other and apologizing. People, going to the download festival in the UK being told to take off their smartwatches, your next story of Music Festival Mishigas comes from Rachel Koster. Watch out for flying balls, says Founders Entertainment after a recent craze took over GovBall, a New York City music festival in June. Bored with nothing to do while their girlfriends screamed about hating their exes at the Olivia Rodrigo concert, groups of young men gathered to practice their three-point shoots. We couldn't bring in real hoops, said a very drunk Kyle Randall.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So we made short Nick sit on tall Austin's shoulders and we paid him 25 bucks to put his arms out like a hoop while everyone took turns dunking. The noises from the game were heard throughout the concert. Videos of rowdy games have gone viral and the risk is high that bored boyfriends are getting ready to ball out at festivals across the country. Security companies in charge of Lollapalooza, Riot Fest, and more have been warned to look out for deflated balls, tire pumps, and combinations of short and tall friends. Board men making basketball hoops while other board guys literally dunk on them.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Your last story of a concert concern comes from Jeff Hiller. For the past 26 years, the Peanut Music Festival has celebrated the gift of folk music in the town of Nacogdoches, Texas. The festival attracts as many as 4,000 people, and as the saying goes, 4,000 people is 4,000 butts. But this year, all those butts are posing a problem. Supply chains have greatly affected businesses everywhere and big porta-potty is no exception. Chemicals used in the blue dyed biocides and
Starting point is 00:17:51 portable toilets have become so expensive that the peanut festival can no longer afford to rent the public utilities. The festival sent an email to ticket holders informing them that there would be no access to privies, johns, or turlets. They included a map of the nearby wooded areas for, quote, number ones and encouraged attendees to adopt a low fiber diet in the days before the festival. That's a hard ask for the folk music crowd where the average person is 90% sprouts. Festival spokesperson Tim Dolman commented, people say this is extreme but come on, this
Starting point is 00:18:32 is something literally a baby can do. All right. So if you're getting ready to go to a music festival this summer, you have to be on the lookout for what? Is it from Hari Kandabulu, be careful about wearing your smart watch in the mosh pit? From Rachel, be aware of bored guys forming basketball hoops, one short guy on top of a tall guy as their friends try to dunk. Or from Jeff Hiller, if you're going to the Peanut Music Festival in Texas, bring your
Starting point is 00:19:06 own facilities. Which of these is the real story of a festival concern we found in the news? I am going to go with Hari's story of the mosh pits triggering the smartwatches. Alright. The audience seems to agree. From the look of them, they've spent a lot of time in mosh pits, right guys? Yes? The audience seems to agree. From the look of them, they've spent a lot of time in mosh pits, right guys? Yes?
Starting point is 00:19:29 All right, your choice then is Harry's story. Well, to bring you the real story, we spoke to a journalist very familiar with it. The dynamic of a mosh pit is people running into each other for help. So I guess it kind of simulates the speed and sudden stop of a crash. That was UK-based mosh pit documentarian, Christopher Bethel, talking about the smart watch alerts going off at the Download Festival. Congratulations, you got it right. Hari was in fact telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:20:01 You have won our prize and Hari has earned a point. Congratulations. Thank you. Bye bye. And now the game we call Not My Job. Ibtihaj Mohammed took up fencing at the age of 13 and went on to become a three-time All-American at Duke University before winning five consecutive world medals in 2016. She was named one of Time's most influential people and won a bronze medal
Starting point is 00:20:35 at the Rio Olympics where, among other things, she became the first American woman to compete and win in a hijab. She is now a sports ambassador and a best-selling author, and we hope, moonlights as a pirate. Ibtihaj Muhammad, welcome to Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Thank you so much for having me. I feel like pirate would be fun, but in my mind, I'm more of a bodyguard. Really?
Starting point is 00:21:04 You're one of those cool people who's standing next to whoever the VIP is and nobody even messes with you because you're so intimidating? Really I'm just like the fierce protector of my mom and my sisters. Well, that's cool. Yeah. I'm always interested in the origin stories of very elite athletes. You said you were inspired to compete early by your older brother who used to challenge you to do things and then beat you all the time.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Is that true? At least early on, right? Well, you know, I'm the middle of five kids and I have one brother and we're only 18 months apart and it just, I think naturally when you grow up in a large family, things are just naturally competitive like we would you know race each other in the pool you know you want to get the the last slice of pizza just small things like that where I feel like you're just in like small competition and I do feel like having an older brother who used to bully me a little bit definitely
Starting point is 00:22:00 brought out this fierce competitor from an early age. Right yeah and I'm just out of curiosity has your brother ever won an Olympic medal in anything? I'm in love for him to hear that. You were good at a lot of sports, but you gravitated to fencing. And how did that happen to be? Happened to be driving past a high school in my hometown and from Maplewood, New Jersey in the car with my mom. And from the road you could see fencers in the school cafeteria.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And my mom was like, I don't know what it is, but they're covered, so I want you to do it. And... Yeah, I... Really, wait a minute. She had no idea what they were doing. They were just wearing head-to-toe outfits with a mask. You're like, that's for you.
Starting point is 00:22:48 He thought they were wearing helmets. So that's how little we knew about fencing at the time. But I was a kid who would eventually wear hijab, and I really struggled trying to find my space in different sports when I was just always out of uniform in a sense. And when I started fencing, it just felt like home from the very beginning. Right. And you picked up saber of the three weapons. It is by far the coolest.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Am I correct? Oh, the best, for sure. Yeah. I don't even know what the other weapons are. Yeah, exactly. Who cares about that? There are those guys over there who are pointing knitting needles at each other for some reason. All these silly rules.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah, the snooze fast than the other weapon. I was once very briefly a very bad fencer and I've known some fencers and invariably they are the most intense athletes I have ever met. Are you one of those fencers who I've seen many times who after every successful point just goes nuts Just like shouts and screams and victory or you more of a quiet assassin type Not in my mind. I'm quite assassin, but then I watch video and I'm like, oh my god Oh, yeah, that was a blood curdling cry there. Yeah. Oh wow
Starting point is 00:24:04 Are like cute mountain lion. That's what I mean. Cute mountain lion. So they're like charmed as you like dice them up. I love it. Does that ever, does that kind of competitiveness ever cross into the rest of your life? No, it's, I feel like I have like a, I don't know if it's like OCD, but I have this, everything has to be perfect and I really struggle when things aren't exactly the way that they're
Starting point is 00:24:29 supposed to be. Whether I'm, you know, fencing or I don't know, mowing the lawn, whatever it is, I really need it to be perfect. I understand. I just imagine you just mowing the lawn and after every row. Yeehaw! I got really into this. Really? To the lawn mowing?
Starting point is 00:24:51 It's weird. It's one of those weird things that, that's something no one would know about me, but my family, we recently just lost my dad. Oh, sorry. And I was like, I could pay someone to do it. No, I'll do it. Right. So I got into lawn mowing. So you're like, you're the first to get to the lawn. You're the last to leave the lawn. I will say that my parents had the best lawn on the block.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I imagine. I imagine. Woo! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:25:19 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! You've earned many medals and other honors. But one of the most impressive to me is that you were one of the women immortalized as a Barbie. I'm imagining, do you, I have to assume you have a Barbie of yourself somewhere, right?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Oh man, I have so many of them. I was like, if I have a bunch of kids and my sisters have a bunch of kids, then we need like a hundred Barbies. Yes. And the people from Mattel were like, I'm sorry, excuse me? Well Ibtihaj Muhammad, it is a particular pleasure to talk to you, and we have asked you here to play a game we're calling, take a stab at this.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You used to stab people professionally, so we thought we'd ask you about other people taking a stab at something, that is, trying something for the first time. Answer two or three questions correctly, you'll win our prize for one of our listeners. Bill, who is Ibtihaj Mohammed playing for? Sean Pratt of Madison, Wisconsin. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Ready to go? I got this, Sean. Here you go. Here's your first question. In 2019, a woman in Turkey took a stab at flying for the very first time. It didn't go great though because shortly after she got to the airport, she did what? A, sat down on the luggage conveyor belt thinking it would take her to the plane. B, got onto the plane and sat down in the first empty seat she saw, the co-pilots.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Or C, drank an entire bottle of vodka in the security line when she was told she couldn't bring it on board. Well, first of all, she's crazy. That we know. Assume. She got on the conveyor belt. She sat in the coplacete or she drank an entire fifth or whatever of vodka because she couldn't bring it on the plane. I'm so stressed out for her. I'm gonna go with C.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You're gonna go with C. That was a little strange, but okay. I'm afraid you all were wrong. You should feel terrible about yourself. It was actually, I'm speaking to them, it was A. This is what happened. Think about it. She goes, she's never been there before.
Starting point is 00:27:43 She goes to the airport, she checks her bags. They take the bag, they turn around, they put it on that conveyor belt that takes it behind the scenes to the plane. She goes, great, thank you. She climbs over, gets on it herself. Whee! Whee! All right, you still have two more chances. Here we go. All right, here's your next question. At 18 years old, Brendan Shanahan decided to try professional hockey. And one of the first things he did was get in a fist fight against fellow hockey player Rick Vave.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Why? Was it A, he'd heard of the first thing you're supposed to do in a hockey game is find the biggest guy on the rink and punch him in the nose? B, because Rick Vave had just broken up with his older sister. Or C, because four years earlier he had asked Vave for an autograph, and Vave had refused. Oh! B. Thing about hockey.
Starting point is 00:28:36 C. It was C. He had asked V me for an autograph. Dave says, get away from me, kid. And the next thing you know, it's five years later. They're on a rink somewhere. And he gets punched in the face. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:52 That C sounded so aggressive. I feel like I had to say C. I know. I don't know what they would have done if you hadn't chosen that. So you were wise. All right. One more question. If you get this right, you win. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:29:04 People should not be alone for the first time when they try getting high like one woman who started texting all her friends about what? A. How Crate and Barrel should be called Barrel and Crate. B. How really good it feels to put a wet Q-tip up your nose, see about how sorry she was for thinking mean things about all of them, which she proceeded to list. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Oh. I see it here, B, does the panel have anything to say? Yes, B, I just heard it in my ear. I just heard it in my ear. That's it. Let's go with B, and we'll send Sean home with some. You're right, it's B. But I also could have guessed in real life.
Starting point is 00:29:55 It does feel good to do that. Bill, how did Iptihaz do on our quiz? He is a perfectionist, so she got two out of three, which is a win. Congratulations. One more for your trophy case. What a thrill to talk to you. Ibtihaj Mohammed is a retired U.S. Olympic fencer, the founder of Luella by Ibtihaj, and the author of three bestselling children's books.
Starting point is 00:30:21 More info about all the things that she does can be found at IbtihajMohammed.com. Ibtihaj Mohamed, what a joy to talk to you. Thank you for joining us. Congratulations on everything you've done. And we'll look for even more. Take care. Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. In just a minute, the scariest shower scene since Psycho in our listener limerick challenge called one triple eight wait wait to join us in the air.
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Starting point is 00:32:20 And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theatre in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal. I sound so mysterious all of a sudden. In just a minute, like limericks, you haven't come to the right place, you've come to the only place. If you'd like to play the Listener Limerick Challenge, give us a call at 1-888-WAITWAIT. That's 1-888-9248-924.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Now it's time for a game we call... The Trump Dump. New poll edition. As nothing of any significance is happening in the world right now, this week the president held an elaborate public ceremony to show off two 88-foot-tall flag poles he's had installed at the White House. So we're going to ask you some questions about this monumental event, rapid fire, true, false, right?
Starting point is 00:33:16 For each right answer, you get a point. Ready to go? Here we go. Hurry, true or false. On Tuesday, President Trump said, quote, these are the most magnificent poles ever made. God, it's true. Right. Rachel, true or false? Tuesday, President Trump said, quote, these are the most magnificent polls ever made. God, it's true. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Rachel, true or false, he then praised the polls for being tall. True, true. Yes. Jeff, true or false, on Wednesday, he told reporters, quote, these are the best polls anywhere in the country or the world. Oh my god, it's true.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yes. Hurry, true or false. As workers installed the flagpoles, he said, quote, it's such a beautiful pole. It's true. It's true, Peter. Rachel, true or false. He watched construction workers install the poles for almost an entire hour. True.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yes. Jeff, true or false. The placement of the new poles makes it possible for the presidential helicopter to land on its normal location. False. Exactly right. The poles make it impossible for Marine One, the presidential helicopter, to land in its normal location on the White House lawn.
Starting point is 00:34:21 No one knows where they are now going to land that helicopter, but that's okay because we have two great polls. Oh, they're beautiful. The best in the world. Beautiful polls. Thanks for playing the Trump Dump Super Poll Edition. Right now, panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Harry, a corporate exec writing to the New York Times business advice column, said that
Starting point is 00:34:49 a job candidate recently brought his what to a job interview? Snake. No. Child. Yes, actually. What? But not just his entire family. A hiring manager was shocked when a potential employee brought quote their
Starting point is 00:35:06 spouse and several children to a job interview. Imagine looking to hire someone and walking into the conference room and seeing 12 family members all wearing matching t-shirts saying Gerald's 30th job interview. I mean if you if you were to say, I really need this job. Yeah. My family. I guess having your family there could help you with some of the questions, like when you're asked what your biggest weakness is, you can just point at your worst child.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I mean, if I were the interviewer, I would do it. I would feel guilty. You really? Yeah. I've got hungry mouths, not just at home, but also right here to feed. Yeah, I'd be like, oh, take my money. Yeah, you're hired. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:51 All of you are hired. Yes. Because you're a good person. Yes, and I also believe in child labor. Have you guys actually had the classic job interview where you've dressed up and gone in and chatted with somebody? Yes. Yeah. One time I had a job interview and the woman pulled up my Twitter because it was a PR company
Starting point is 00:36:13 and whatever my last tweet was about was like something about farting or something and I didn't get the job. I think it was also like some political stuff she disagreed with, which honestly I stand by what I said. But... I'm just going to point out, you don't know what she said. I was like, everyone should get a gun. Coming up, it's Lightning Fill in the Blank, but first it's the game where you have to
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Starting point is 00:37:04 Woo indeed! Woo, indeed, my friend. For tickets and information to all of our live shows, go to nprpresents.org, and if that's somehow still not enough of us, well, find us on TikTok. We're at Wait, Wait, NPR. Hi, everyone. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Hi, everybody. This is Nina from Point Pleasant Beach, New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Oh, at the Jersey Shore, right? Yeah. That's great. What do you do there? I am the Director of Outreach for the Barnagat Bay Partnership, which is one of 28 national estuary programs in the country designated to restore, educate, and protect about estuaries of national significance. Wow. about estuaries of national significance. Wow! That was the most well-practiced answer I've ever gotten.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I'm very impressed. I have no more questions. You pass. Thank you. Go on your way. Well, welcome to the show, Nina. Bill Curtis is going to read you three news-related limericks with a last word or phrase missing from each.
Starting point is 00:38:01 If you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly on just two of the limericks, you'll be a winner. You ready to go? Let's do it! Let us do it. Here is your first limerick. The receiver is good. You'll understand fine. It's no smartphone but better than hand signs. When you type with your thumbs you get stressed out and dumb. So instead, we're installing a land. Landline. Landline, yes. Parents of pre-teen kids who are worried about the downside of smartphones
Starting point is 00:38:34 but still want their children to be able to talk to their friends have found an innovative solution. It's a remarkable kind of telephone that supports voice-to-voice communication. And even better. It's chained to the wall so they can't go anywhere The kids don't know how much they are going to love actually talking on the telephone because it's kind of Unsatisfying to go you stop texting first. No you stop texting You stop texting for I just had like a million flashbacks of my parents picking up the phone or my dad like reprimanding who was on the other end. Like, you say please when you want to speak to my son.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I just, I don't know if I want to. Well actually, no, I wouldn't be reliving it. I'd be the father. Right. Oh yeah, I'm into this idea. All right, here is your next limerick. Right! Oh yeah, I'm into this idea. All right, here is your next limerick. When the world starts to make a big racket, I zip up in a snug puffy packet. Soft sounds from my hood make my rims cycle good. I nap well with the help of this...
Starting point is 00:39:44 Jacket! Jacket, yes, it may look like a normal giant puffer coat, but it is the ZZZN Sleep Apparel System, a jacket designed to help you go to sleep anywhere you happen to be. And no, it is not just a normal parka with all the pockets filled with ambient. So this high-tech sleep system has built-in audio and lighting to lull you to sleep, still awake, no worries, call customer support, and the company will send someone over to knock you out the old-fashioned way. It looks like a jacket.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yes. And it keeps you warm the way a jacket would. It does, yes. But it has lots of wires in it. It does. I don't know about all this. Yeah, I don't know either Yeah, well it does help you sleep by creating a very quiet environment because the moment you put it on everyone stays 20
Starting point is 00:40:30 feet away from you. Sweat cocoon. All right, here is your last limerick. In hot drizzle you rinse for an hour so your bladder walls weaken their power. Before grabbing soap, use the toilet, you dope. It's unhealthy to pee in the... Shower! Right, that's right! I'm sorry to tell you, experts say the thing that 40% of people admit to doing and 100% of people actually do
Starting point is 00:41:02 is bad for your bladder health. Doctors say that peeing in the shower eventually trains your bladder to just automatically empty when you hear the sound of spraying water. Now you might think that's ridiculous, right? No, couldn't be the case. But then you're at the hair salon and the stylist says, lean back over the sink so we can wash your hair, and all of a sudden, you have to double the tip. What do you do when you have to go and you're in the shower?
Starting point is 00:41:30 Are you supposed to aim it at the toilet? Turn off the water, hear silence, and then turn it back on once you've gone, I suppose. That's ridiculous. I was worried it was going to be something about standing up, but no, it's just like Pavlovian. Yeah. Remember, we're training your bladder, and you don't want to do that, but on the other hand, what if you train your bladder to shake and roll over and maybe fetch?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Bill, how did Nina do on our quiz? Oh, she got them all right. Congratulations. Thank you. Take care and thanks for playing. All right. Thank you, guys. Bye-bye.
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Starting point is 00:42:32 Reboots, pop music, prestige dramas, Netflix slop. That's 15 years of buzzy pop culture chit chat and here's to many more with you along for the ride. Listen to Pop Culture Happy Hour on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Planet Money podcast, the economic world we've been living in for decades was built on some basic assumptions. But the people who built that world are long gone.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And right now, those assumptions are kind of up in the air. Like the dollar as the reserve currency. Is that era over? If so, what could replace it? And what does that mean for the rest of us? Listen to the Planet Money podcast from NPR, wherever you get your podcasts. Now onto our final game, Lightning Fill in the Blank.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Each of our players has 60 seconds in which to answer as many Fill in the Blank questions as they can. Each correct answer now worth two points. Bill, can you give us the scores? Hari has five, Rachel and Jeff each have four. All right, Harry has five, okay. Rachel and Jeff are tied for second, and you guys are gonna go first.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I'm gonna arbitrarily pick Rachel. Here we go. The clock will start when I begin your first question. Fill in the blank. On Wednesday, Israel launched an airstrike against a nuclear facility in blank. Tehran. In Iran, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And Monday, the Supreme Court upheld Tennessee's ban on blank, affirming care for trans youth. Affirming, gender affirming. Gender affir In Iran, yeah. And Monday, the Supreme Court upheld Tennessee's ban on blank, affirming care for trans youth. Affirming. Gender-affirming care, right. This week, NASA said that a giant asteroid has a chance of hitting the blank in 2032. Earth. No, sadly, the moon.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Okay. Damn it. This week, a monkey in Hong Kong. I need to start saving. This week, a monkey in Hong Kong was caught on camera destroying blank. Cameras. No, destroying a sign warning people not to feed the monkeys. On Tuesday the Senate passed an act aimed at regulating Bitcoin and other blanks. Crypto.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Right, cryptocurrencies. According to a new lawsuit, weight loss drugs like blank are causing vision loss. Wigovie. Yes, and Ozempic. This week the head of a waste management company in Sweden, once called the Queen of Trash, is headed to prison because she took the trash she was in charge of disposing and blanked. Sold it.
Starting point is 00:44:33 No, she just left giant piles of it all over Sweden. Bad girl. Bad girl. On Tuesday, Fariba Vankor, who called herself the Queen of Trash, was convicted on 19 counts of environmental crimes. Prosecutors called her waste management business a pyramid scheme, and they're right in that the giant trash piles she left all over Sweden were kind of pyramid shaped. Bill, how did Rachel do in our quiz?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Four right, eight more points, totaled 12. Rachel, you did well. You're in first place. Jeff. Jeff, you're up next. Here we go. Fill in the blank. According to a new report, by 2034, blank will not be able to pay out full monthly benefits. Social Security.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Right. During a routine test, another one of blank's rockets exploded on the launch pad. SpaceX. Right. This week, Brad Lander, city comptroller and one of the mayoral candidates in blank, was arrested by ICE.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Oh, true? No, in the, I'm looking for blank. Oh. Name of the mayoral candidates in blank was arrested by ICE. Oh, true? No, in the... I'm looking for blank. Name of the city. Oh! New York? Right! On Tuesday, over 200 people waiting for aid in blank were injured by Israeli fire. Palestine?
Starting point is 00:45:37 Gaza, yeah. This week, a game of disc golf in South Carolina was interrupted when blank fell from the sky and onto the course. An asteroid? No. A shark. Oh! You know what?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Shame on me. Shame on me. On Tuesday, the owner of the L.A. Dodgers agreed to buy majority ownership of the L.A. Blanks for $10 billion. Lakers? Yes, the Lakers. Oh! According to a new study, regularly smoking blank may be worse for your heart than cocaine.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Marijuana? Marijuana, right. This week, a man in Texas was shocked to discover that his ex had secretly blanked after they broke up. Died. No, had secretly married him after they broke up. According to police, the woman somehow convinced a pastor to certify a wedding certificate without the man being there, which she then filed with the county clerk.
Starting point is 00:46:27 So they're married. The man only found out about it because his wife mailed him a copy of the marriage certificate along with, this is true, a gift bag from Bath and Body Works. Insult to injury. I know. Bill, how did Jeff do on our quiz? Jeff, this is hard to believe for a newbie, but you got six right, 12 more points, 16 for two in the game. So, how many does Harry need to win? Six. Go for it, Harry.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Here we go. Six to win. Here we go, Hari. This is for the game. On Thursday, President Trump once again delayed the ban on social media app Blank. TikTok. Right. This week, the National Weather Service warned of record-breaking temperatures as a blank dome covers the US. Heat wave? Yes, heat dome. On Monday, a recall order was placed on some brands of ready-to-eat Ferticini Alfredo linked to a blank outbreak. E. coli? Listeria. After multiple thefts of their street signs, residents of Blank Road in the UK are demanding police take action. Abby? No, Daddy Hole Road. On Tuesday, the
Starting point is 00:47:38 Florida Panthers won their second consecutive blank cup. Stanley Cup. Cheated. Later on Tuesday, the Florida Panthers cracked and dented their blank cups. Stanley Cup. Right. Following a number of dangerous incidents, a shopping center in the UK has imposed a speed limit on blank. Shopping carts.
Starting point is 00:47:56 No, mobility scooters. After a shocking number of collisions and near misses, the Idlewell Shopping Center in the UK announced a four mile an hour speed limit on all mobility scooters. I can't wait until someone's caught speeding, tries to make a run for it, and a chase breaks out between a mobility scooter and a security guard doing a brisk walk. Bill did hurry, do well enough to win. He got four right for eight more points total of 13
Starting point is 00:48:26 Jeff is the winner First time's the charm. Wow, you know, I'm the first one here and I'm the last one to leave In just a minute we're gonna ask our panelists to predict what will be Jeff Bezos his favorite wedding present But first let me tell you wait. Wait, don't tell me is a production of NPR and WBE Z Chicago and Associated Just a minute, we're gonna ask our panelists to predict what will be Jeff Bezos' favorite wedding present. But first, let me tell you. Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is a production of NPR and WBEZ Chicago in association with Urgent Haircut Productions, Doug Berman, Benevolent Overlord.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Philip Godica writes our limericks, our public address announcer is Paul Friedman, our tour manager is Shana Donald. Thanks to the staff and crew at the Studio Baker Theater, B.J. Leedemann composed our theme. Our program is produced by Jennifer Mills, Miles Dorenbos, and Lillian King. Special thanks to Mahanad El Sheos, and Lillian King.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Special thanks to Mohanad El-Sheikhi and Monica Hickey. Peter Gwynn is our flagpole installer. Emma Choi is our vibe curator. Technical directionist from Lorna White, our CFO is Colin Miller, our production manager is Robert Newhouse, our senior producer is Ian Schilock, and the executive producer of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is Michael Danforth.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Now panel, what will be Jeff Bezos' favorite wedding present he gets next week? Hari Kandabolu. A prenuptial agreement for his first marriage. Oh. Rachel Koster. He's going to get his first kiss. Aw.
Starting point is 00:49:41 And Jeff Hiller. A space trip for the boys. Well, if any of that happens panel, we'll ask you about it. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Thank you Bill Curtis. Thanks also to Harry Kondobo, Rachel Kostner and Jeff Hiller. And thanks to all of you for listening. I'm Peter Segel. We'll see you next week. This is NPR. On NPR's Thru Line, school teachers are going to be the ones that rebuild our society in a way that is more
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