Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! - WWDTM: Karen Allen

Episode Date: June 24, 2023

We're back in Tanglewood and joined by the amazing Karen Allen, who plays the iconic Marion Ravenwood in the Indiana Jones movies. She joins Karen Chee, Roy Blount, Jr. and Negin Farsad to talk spitti...ng in auditions, Tom Selleck, and working with snakesLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. Good news, everyone. Not only is my voice beautiful, it also repels mosquitoes. I'm Bill Curtis, and here's your host outside of Tanglewood in western Massachusetts, Peter Sagal. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, everybody. It's so good to be back. So wonderful to be with you. Later on, we're going to be joined by Karen Allen, the star of huge cultural touchstone
Starting point is 00:00:45 movies like Animal House and the Indiana Jones films. But first, let me tell you, it is such a delight to be back at Tanglewood, where, yes, this beautiful outdoor music venue in the Berkshires, where, believe it or not, we are opening their 2023 season. True. The season's marketing slogan on all the banners and billboards, 2023. It's all uphill from here. Help us kick things off by calling us in to play our games.
Starting point is 00:01:24 The number is 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. Let's welcome our first listener contestant. Hi, you are on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hey, this is Max calling in from Madison, Wisconsin. Hey, Max. How are things in Madison? Things are great.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I just moved here to start my residency in psychiatry. Oh, wow. Now, have you lived in the Midwest before? Yes, I grew up in Highland Park. You did? I just left Chicago. I'm glad, because if you had moved to the Midwest to do psychiatry, you might have been taken aback.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Like, how are you? I'm fine. Well, welcome to our show, Max. Let me introduce you to our panel. First up, a comedian and writer who is currently on strike. It's Karen Chee. Next, a comedian and host of the podcast Fake the Nation, where you can now also get recaps of The Bear. It's Nagin Farsad. Hello. And a writer whose very delightful
Starting point is 00:02:30 sub stack is called Take Another Little Piece of My Heart Now. It's our old friend Roy Blunt Jr. Max, welcome to the show. You're going to play Who's Bill this time. Bill Curtis is going to read you three quotations from this week's news. If you can correctly identify or explain two of them, you will win our prize. Any voice from our show you might choose on your voicemail. Ready to play? I am, thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:54 All right, here is your first quote. I'm up for a cage match if he is. That was Elon Musk agreeing to the tech billionaire fight of the century against whom? Ooh, that's a good question. Well, there are two ways of figuring this out. One is with clues, and just by imagining which of them you'd most like to see punched in the face. That's quite a few, but I think I'll go with the clue. Oh, you're going to go with the clue.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Well, you'll be able to get tickets on Facebook Marketplace. I will say Mark Zuckerberg. It is Mark Zuckerberg, yes. I feel the need to assure everyone everything I'm about to tell you is true. A rumor that Facebook was working on a new competitor to Twitter got Elon Musk mad. They started going after each other on social media, and then Elon Musk challenged Mark Zuckerberg to a fight. Zuckerberg accepted, and it's going to go down in Las Vegas. Mark Zuckerberg has done the impossible. He has come up with a situation in which we are going to root for him. I think Elon's going to get some kind of sympathetic support
Starting point is 00:04:19 because he's had an awful lot of bad turns lately, and I wouldn't mind seeing either one of them get beat up. That's, that's the thing. I mean, the big question is in an actual physical fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk, is there any way Jeff Bezos could somehow get kicked in the balls too? It's tricky, too, because we know Mark Zuckerberg only has one fight move
Starting point is 00:04:48 and it's a poke? No, but apparently he's been practicing jiu-jitsu. Yeah, he has. He has. This is true. So people expect him to dominate until the last minute when suddenly out of nowhere, a self-driving Tesla will crash into the ring and run him over.
Starting point is 00:05:10 The two of them being like two of the most hated people in America fighting each other is kind of like when the pandemic happened and all the rats started eating each other in New York City. And all the people in New York were like, oh good, let them just have at it. And all the people in New York were like, oh, good, let them just have at it. Max, your next quote was a comment on a New York Times story that was published Thursday. Having children in this economy? Because it is in fact because fewer of us are having children that this week the population of the U.S. is finally more what than ever? More adult?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, we're all older. The U.S. is older than it has ever been as of this week. Congratulations, everybody. The new median age, yes, we did it, we aged. The median age of the U.S. is now 38.9 years, which means our entire country is spending every waking moment thinking about how it's almost 40. But to be fair to America, 40, right? It's not old. It's middle-aged, right? Our symbol of the country is still the bald eagle, but now he's accepted it and given up the comb-over. bald eagle, but now he's accepted it and given up the comb-over.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Because the median age is so much higher, does that mean that 80 is the new 35? Like, does it work? Speaking as somebody who is 80, I would say no. Maybe the new 74. Okay. By the way, the median age varies widely by state. Some states are younger, some states are older. For example, in Maine,
Starting point is 00:06:51 the median age is actually 45. Wow. Because there's that one 200-year-old lobster woman that's throwing off the pole. Max, here is your last quote.
Starting point is 00:07:03 How do I talk to people? Now, that is a very popular Google search among college graduates who are reportedly having a very hard time knowing how to act where? In the workplace. Exactly right, Max. In the office, college graduates who have spent basically the last three years on Zoom have been unleashed just now into the workplace and they have no idea how to behave.
Starting point is 00:07:29 The Wall Street Journal reports that they're struggling with office etiquette, dress codes, and quote, elevator chit-chat. On the other hand, they're incredible at knowing when they are and are not muted. I bet they can't gossip. That's what I always, last time I was in an office, that's all we did. It's so bad employers are offering remedial courses in basic human behavior,
Starting point is 00:07:53 including, and I'm not kidding, how to talk to other people. This is real advice for recent college graduates. Maintain eye contact. Remember to pause once in a while and avoid slang. It's all true, which implies that these new hires are all walking around the office, staring at the ground and muttering about vibe checks in the fiscal reports. Also, there should be a rule in there like you don't need to bring your ring light to your cubicle. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yes. And if you break wind, someone will hear you. Now that's old school. Oh no. Yeah. Bill, how did Max do on our quiz? We're going to give Max three rights. Congratulations. Well done, Max. Thank you so much. Good luck in your medical practice. We're going to need it. Nice to be here, thanks. Take care.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Right now, panel, some questions for you from the week's news. Karen, according to the Wall Street Journal, the hot new shopping destination for millionaires, one percenters, is where? Mars. No. Venus. The moon? You're just going to work your way through the solar system, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Is it on this planet? It is on this planet. Fifth Avenue. No, that's what you would expect, right? Oh, yeah. What would I not expect? Exactly. Yellowstone.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I'd like one of those buffalo. I don't care about the cost. Pack it up and send it to me. No, not Yellowstone. I'll give you a hint. They're so rich they don't complain when the price is actually $1.10. The dollar store? The dollar store, yes. Oops. The dollar store? The dollar store, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:48 High-income people are flocking to dollar stores, presumably so they can prank their friends with fake house gifts when they go out to the Hamptons. Can you believe, Phyllis, they make plates out of paper? Can they all just do, like, a jujitsu cage match also? Yes, all of them. The journal says it's because rich people have finally figured out that places like Whole Foods sell the same things, but at much higher prices.
Starting point is 00:10:12 One person quoted said he was converted by, quote, a kombucha and probiotic drink that was much cheaper down at the dollar store. Please nobody tell him that was expired milk. And someone's costume had been ruined. They also just discovered this? Yeah, apparently. It's the latest thing. Like this thing
Starting point is 00:10:36 that everyone has known for decades, since the dawn of the economy? Yeah, apparently. Were they like, hey, that dollar store, how much does stuff cost in there? I just learned that it's cheap. The journal says
Starting point is 00:10:52 that a telltale sign of this is all the Mercedes and Porsches in the dollar store parking lots. And if you're interested in leaving a message on any of those cars, screwdrivers only cost a dollar. It's all about dollars, quarters, nickels, and cents. Coming up, somebody isn't who they say they are in our Bluff the Listener game.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Call 1-888-WAIT-WAIT-TO-PLAY. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR. From NPR in WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We're playing this week with Roy Blunt Jr., Karen Chee, and Nagin Farsad. And here again is your host at Tanglewood in western Massachusetts, Peter Stegall. Thanks, everybody. It is now time for the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me Bluff the Listener Game.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Call 1-888-WAIT-WAIT to play our game in the air. Hi, you are on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hello, Peter, and my name is Margaret Formasano, and I'm calling from New Paltz, New York. New Paltz. I know New Paltz. It's a good place. It's a good place. It's a good place. What do you do there? I am a concierge at the Mohonk Mountain House. The Mohonk Mountain House.
Starting point is 00:12:17 My favorite 19th century resort. I love that place. It's this beautiful old Victorian pile on a lake there up in the Catskills. And they didn't have alcohol until like, what, 10 or 20 years ago, right? The 70s. The 70s. 1970 is when they started actually introducing alcohol. So when I went there in the 90s, they just lied to me. All right. Now I'm on to you. All right, fine. Well, welcome to our show,
Starting point is 00:12:50 Margaret. You're going to play the game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction. Bill, what is Margaret's topic? Master of disguise. Who doesn't love a good impersonation? Good thing that's a rhetorical question because the answer is lots of people don't like it. But this week we read about somebody in need of an impersonator, and our panelists are going to tell you about that. Pick the one who's telling the truth. You'll win the weight-waiter of your choice in your voicemail. Are you ready to go? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:13:15 All right. First, let's hear from Karen Chee. Famous actor and man Al Pacino had a scheduling problem. On the first Sunday of June, he had both the baptism for his new baby and a big shoot day for the sequel to The Irishman, which is arguably the weirdest superhero in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. So anyway, the Oscar winner did what any celebrity parent would do. He hired an Al Pacino impersonator to do the kid thing so he could go do the fun thing. to do the kid thing so he could go do the fun thing.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Unfortunately, Pacino made a crucial error. It turns out he had accidentally hired a godfather impersonator, not an Al Pacino impersonator. The man just spent the whole ceremony in the back of the room, kind of surrounded by guys who kept closing the door really slowly while maintaining eye contact. Fortunately, the impersonator himself seemed to have a great time. He spoke to everyone who came up to him and always said, you come to me on the day of my baby's baptism.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Thank you. A perfect impersonator. At first I was, yeah. He was really good because he was the original. An Al Pacino impersonator, who I hope was better than that. No. No. No, impossible. Hired by Al Pacino.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Your next story of imitation and demand comes from Nagin Farsad. Mexican food, the great American cuisine, just got overrun by the strangest fraud. Che Garibaldi, the owner of the Taqueria Garibaldi chain, wanted to explore new ways of being a horrible boss. He didn't trust his 35 employees in Sacramento and neighboring Roseville, and so he did what any sociopath would do and hired a fake priest to come to work and take confessionals. That's right, he got a random guy,
Starting point is 00:15:07 probably a local improv comedian, because those dirtbags will do any gig, had them dress up in an over-the-top Catholic outfit and take confessions from the staff. The fake priest also kept asking them to focus on work-related sins like, I totally get that you're cheating on your wife, but did you ever steal any supplies from the kitchen, my son? Luckily, Garibaldi didn't get away with it. The Department of Labor fined him $70,000 in damages and $70,000 in back pay, which in labor circles is what we call
Starting point is 00:15:41 an in-your-face-you-demented boss. A boss. A boss tries to get his workers to narcan themselves by hiring somebody to imitate a priest. And your last story of someone making a great impression comes from Roy Blunt Jr. His whole life, Ned Fortnum had been hearing from his father, Pete, what a great baseball career he, Pete, could have had if he hadn't had Ned. And the whole story hinged on Dooley Womack. Old Dooley, Pete would say, he was able to go on in baseball, pitch for the New York Yankees. I played against old Dooley before I had to quit, and I hit four home runs off old Dooley in one game. Then one day, Ned ran into a stranger who said he had played high school ball with Ned's dad because he was Dooley Womack's cousin. Do you look like Dooley quite a bit would you like to make some money and that is why that very night Ned was able to say to his dad guess who I ran into he wants to
Starting point is 00:16:55 see you here he is old Dooley Womack do you know what Pete Fortnum said he He said, duly, damn, you have let yourself go. Of course, even when you were in shape, I've owned you four homers one game. Yeah, Pete, but I did get you with the curveball one time. A couple of nights later, Pete Fortnum died happy. All right. Here are your choices from Karen Chee, Al Pacino, having another obligation when he was supposed to be making a film, hired an Al Pacino impersonator to attend his own son's baptism. From Nagin Farsad, a taqueria owner hires a man to impersonate a priest, try to get secrets from his own workers.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Or from Roy Blunt Jr., a heartwarming story of how a son finds somebody to imitate old Dooley Womack and make his dad finally happy. Which of these is the real story of an impersonator in the week's news? B? So your choice is B, Nagin's story about the taqueria owner. That's your choice? All right. Such a great story. Well, to bring you the correct answer,
Starting point is 00:18:06 we found someone who has been following the real story closely. Hiring someone dressed up as a priest to trick employees into confessing is a twisted interpretation of Romans 6.23 for the wages of sin is death. That was Daniel Sweat, a union-side labor lawyer
Starting point is 00:18:23 with a degree in religious studies, a man uniquely qualified to talk about the fake priest used by the now-busted employer in Northern California. Congratulations, Margaret. You got it right. You're the point for Nagin. But more importantly, you have won our prize. Any voice you might like. Thank you so much for playing.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And I'll see you at Mohonk sooner or later, I hope. Take care. Yes, sir. And now the game where people who've made their marks on history do something that they probably won't even remember. It's called Not My Job. Karen Allen was a young theater actor when she was cast
Starting point is 00:18:59 in Animal House, a movie that became a legendary touchstone of American culture. And then just based on that, she was asked to play the lead in another little movie called Raiders of the Lost Ark. She is back on screen in the latest, and we are told,
Starting point is 00:19:18 final sequel to that movie, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. We are absolutely thrilled to have her join us now. Karen Allen, welcome to Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. So let's start with Indiana Jones. You were cast in the first movie, Raiders of the Lost Ark, even before Harrison Ford was, right? I was, yeah. Well, I was, yeah. Well, they had cast Tom Selleck in the role initially, and then Magnum P.I. got picked up,
Starting point is 00:19:51 and they wouldn't let him out of his contract. And then they began, you know, Harrison was right there in their backyard because of Star Wars. And also he was a carpenter. He was probably fixing their fence or something. So, first of all, I cannot get over Tom Selleck. I can't get over the idea of Indiana Jones trying to sell me a reverse mortgage. But let's not go there.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Instead, so you're a young actor. You have done this movie that was this enormous hit, Animal House. And they call you up and they say, hey, you seem pretty funny and charming and great. Would you come and do this movie with us? What did they tell you about it? The only thing, you know, I was living in New York City. I went in to meet with Steven Spielberg. And I think one of the first things he said to me is, how well can you spit? That's what he said. He said, how well can you spit? And I just found, coming out of my mouth, I said, oh, I can hawk him with the best. Hell yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I can hawk a loogie with the best. That's the actor's response. That's how you get ahead in the interview. How well do I spit? A camel ain't got nothing on me, friend. Why did he want to know that? I don't know. I think he was trying to say she was kind of a tough character.
Starting point is 00:21:10 We meet her in a bar. The script was very, very secretive. They weren't letting anybody read anything. And then when you were making the movie in Tunisia and all the places you were, were you standing around going, so when do I spit? Do you want me to spit on this guy, Steve? Is that a thing? So I understand I was not the only person who was disappointed not to see Marion return along with Indy in the first two sequels, if you follow me. And you're in the
Starting point is 00:21:40 new one, which is wonderful. And now that I know that, I'm willing to go see it, just so you know. And how many snakes do they dump on you in this one? No snakes in my scenes. Right. And we need to go back to the famous snake sequence in the tomb, in the well of souls. Oh, boy. Those were real snakes. Those were real snakes. Those were real snakes.
Starting point is 00:22:07 6,000 snakes. What? 6,000. Can you imagine? Were you like, could you guys CGI these? You know what? It was pre-CGI, and they actually had a really, really primitive thing that they were trying to do.
Starting point is 00:22:24 There was this electronic grid on the floor with all of these snakes. So they had this electronic grid of these rubber snakes that went like this. For the radio audience, Ms. Allen is doing a convincing snake impersonation. And from the very, very first time that they tried to shoot with it, it looked just terrible. When I look at the film, I can actually see, because the real snakes are on top of this grid, which for some reason they never pulled up. They just poured snakes on top of it. But they sent out this call out to India and all over.
Starting point is 00:23:04 We were in London at the time. And all of a sudden, all these snakes just started arriving. And there were three or four other films shooting at the Elstree Studios in London where we were. And the snakes would get off our set and go on to other people's sets and come crawling across the set out of nowhere. Yeah. That explains the strange snake scene in a room with a view. I never understood that.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Why they're sitting there in Tuscany and all of a sudden these snakes crawl by. But now I know. That's great. How is it that the United Kingdom doesn't have enough of its own snakes? I don't know. That's a lot of snakes. 6,000 snakes. Well, they really needed
Starting point is 00:23:44 a certain kind of snake that wasn't going to put us all in terrible, terrible danger. Were they nice to you, the snakes? I, you know, I actually, I'm not, fortunately for me, particularly frightened of snakes. But a lot of them were a kind of snake called a glass snake, which is not a true snake. But you could put your finger in its mouth and it wasn't going to bite you. Was it a worm? No, no, they were, you know, they were good size.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Good size. They looked like real snakes. And then we had pythons that were quite dangerous. Oh, sure. Yeah. So if you run into a snake now, Me? Do they recognize you?
Starting point is 00:24:26 I can imagine. You've met so many. We've heard about you, ladies. She's very popular with nerds like me and snakes. And the snakes are like, oh man, can I have a selfie? Damn it, I have no hands. I can't do it. Well, I was, needless to say,
Starting point is 00:24:41 I was relieved when we left the snakes. I can imagine. Well, Karen Allen, it's so much fun to be with you, and we have asked you here to play a game we're calling... Ah, refreshing. The Washington Post ran a story this week about the invention of pink lemonade that was so amazing we used it to make a game for you. Answer two out of three questions right,
Starting point is 00:24:59 and you will win our prize for one of our listeners. Bill, who is Karen Allen playing for? Will Kendler of Sudbury, Massachusetts. So, if you... The usual rules apply. If you get two right, Will will win a voice of his choice on his voicemail. Ready to go? Here's your first question. The inventor of pink lemonade was named Pete Conklin, who created it after he walked off his previous job, which was what? A, professor slash archaeologist. B, ice cream man.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Or C, racist circus clown. Well, gee, let me think. I think I might go with Ice Cream Man. No, he was a racist circus clown. Really? He was. He was a circus clown with a very popular, very racist act. It was Texas in 1857.
Starting point is 00:25:58 What do you expect? All right, you have two more chances. This is not a problem. Okay. I've lost all faith. I know. After he quit the circus, Mr. Conklin bought a covered wagon and started driving it from town to town, selling lemonade out of the back.
Starting point is 00:26:13 It was a huge success. How many lemons did he go through that summer? A, one, B, 316, or C, over 11,000? Oh, my God. I don't know. I'm sorry. Darn. What's the answer that would be the craziest one?
Starting point is 00:26:33 One. One is the answer. His lemonade was made of water, sugar, and tartaric acid with one, one uncut lemon dropped in the pitcher for appearance. And he used the same lemon the whole summer. No. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Oh, my God. This guy. This guy. Wow. This racist clown lemonade guy. All right. Here's your final question. Get this one.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Get this one. I have to go for the less than obvious. Yes, the less than obvious one. Okay. So he's like selling lemonade. He's doing okay. But then he comes up with a gimmick, pink lemonade. Way more popular than his original lemonade.
Starting point is 00:27:14 In that first batch, where did the pink coloring come from? A, a mold that was growing on that one lemon he still had in there. B, Blood. Or C. A circus performer's red tights. Oh, no. Come on. Caught between the mold and the tights. Aren't we all?
Starting point is 00:27:44 I'm going to go for the red tights. You're right. So he goes to make that day's batch of fake lemonade, and there's no water in the well, and the only water he can find was water that a circus performer was using to wash her red tights. He used the water to make the lemonade. It tended up pink, and everybody loved it.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Because it all came out vaguely pink, or as he called it, strawberry. Tastes great. Bill, how did Karen Allen do on our quiz? Two out of three. Karen, that's a big win for you. There you are. You got a license. Karen Allen, everybody.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Karen, that's a big win for you. There you are. You got a license. Karen Allen, everybody. You can see Karen Allen in Indiana Jones in the Dial of Destiny in theaters soon. Karen Allen, thank you so much for joining us. I'm waiting for you to come in. What an absolute joy to meet you.
Starting point is 00:28:35 An absolute pleasure. In just a minute, the newest thing in the vending machine may surprise you in our Listener Limerick Challenge. Call 1-888-WAIT-WAIT to join us in the air. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We are playing this week with Nagin Farsad, Roy Blunt Jr. and Karen Chee. Farsad, Roy Blunt Jr., and Karen Chee. And here again is your host at Tanglewood in western
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Starting point is 00:29:49 But right now, panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Karen, apparently the latest hot accessory for cool grown-up parties is a what? An accessory? Yes. May I have a hint, please? You can. It's great because now adults can enjoy it without worrying about jumping on some annoying six-year-old. A trampoline? Close enough.
Starting point is 00:30:06 A bouncy house. Whoa. Yeah, adult bouncy houses. Bouncy houses are being rented to adults-only parties complete with a DJ, a full bar, and an orthopedic surgeon right there. Of course, I should say these days, we all know what it's like. Many adults can't afford their own bouncy houses, so they move into their parents' bouncy basement. Millennials can't buy bouncy houses. They've been
Starting point is 00:30:29 having bouncy avocado toast. Exactly. Wait, so is everybody, like, wasted and then bouncing? Well, there are. There is liquor at these things. Because, like, I imagine there's a fair amount of, like, bounce and vomit that might happen in that scenario.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah, it's true. But these are usually rented to children. They've seen worse. Nagin, the French Minister of Finance is under attack for writing what while in office? Oh, he wrote like a scathing critique of the baguette. And people were like, not in this country, mon frere. No. No, that wasn't it.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I'm just trying to imagine what a scathing critique of the baguette would be like. Oh, Peter. It is too long. And too narrow. Okay, okay, but give me a hint, though. I'll give you a hint. How do you say 50 shades of gray in French? Okay, okay, but give me a hint, though. I'll give you a hint. How do you say Fifty Shades of Grey in French? Okay, wait.
Starting point is 00:31:28 He wrote, like, S&M fanfic? I'm going to give it to you. He wrote a dirty book. In his spare time, Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire likes to write novels, including the latest, which has scenes that, according to various reports, quote, land somewhere between erotica and shop talk at a proctologist's convention, unquote. Ooh la la. From what I understand, it does have
Starting point is 00:31:54 a baguette in it. Yeah, that's true. I would be, like, if someone was like, guys, like, Biden is writing erotica, I would be so psyched. Like, why is the American, why is the French population so mad? Well, they're upset because they say it's bad. Nagin, if Biden wrote erotica, you would be psyched. I mean, wouldn't we all?
Starting point is 00:32:19 I think it would be so exciting. Hey, hey, how about a little malarkey? be so exciting. Hey, hey, how about a little malarkey? He's like, let's get bipartisan. Karen, scientists are arguing over whether a 40,000
Starting point is 00:32:39 year old carved pendant is the first what known to history? Necklace? No, they believe it's a necklace. They know that. Okay. The question is whether or not it represents what? It is shaped like a what?
Starting point is 00:32:53 It's shaped like a cross? No. It's shaped like a heart? You're getting there. It is an organ. Oh. Oh. You're getting there. It is an organ. Ooh. Is it a baguette?
Starting point is 00:33:21 You know, I'm just going to say yes. Yes. Yes. Scientists are debating whether this four centimeter long carved graphite pendant is the quote, I'll use their language, earliest known sext anthropomorphic representation, unquote, or what we will call a baguette. Now, there's a lot of debate about this, right? We know that ancient humans used to do phalluses of various kinds and drawings, but they don't know if this one is one, because it doesn't obviously look like one. I mean, it sounds like it was just like a cute little oval thing and then some pervy scientist was like, this is a penis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Well, they're not sure. It either came from an ancient fertility cult of some kind that predated any of the ones we currently know about or from Ashley's bachelorette party. Hey, Mike Danforth, Wait Wait executive producer here, with a plug for our quiz game The Wait Wait Wayback Machine. It's a game we play with a Wait Wait Don't Tell Me plus listener
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Starting point is 00:35:41 at the lovely Studebaker Theatre in downtown Chicago. And we've added a second show when we visit Ann Arbor on September 1st. And we will be at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles on September 28th. Plus, check out the Wait, Wait! Stand-Up Tour, headed to Charleston, South Carolina on July 14th
Starting point is 00:35:58 and in Durham, North Carolina on July 15th. Tickets and info about all of that can be found at nprpresents.org. Hi, you're on. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Hey, it's Elizabeth Elsworth calling in from New York, but I'm actually living in Chicago these days. How are you? We're great. We're great. So you're in New York. What are you doing there? So I'm here for business. I work for FinTech, so I get to come out to New York. And at the moment, I'm staying at my daughter's tiny little apartment in the Lower East Side and enjoying
Starting point is 00:36:28 some great Thai food. Well, that's great. Those are good things to do in New York. And you're looking at how your daughter lives in this tiny little apartment for which she pays, I'm sure, a fortune. And what are you thinking about her life? Actually, I'm thinking it has a great future. If you can learn to live in a tiny little place and be happy, you can pretty
Starting point is 00:36:44 much learn to do anything. There you go. That's a good attitude. Well, welcome to the show, Elizabeth. Bill Curtis is going to read you three news-related limericks with the last word or phrase missing from each. If you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly into the limericks, you will be a winner. You ready to play? Yes, I am. Here we go. Here is your first limerick. My cranial bulk I maintain with this exercise, which has no strain. I lie down for a nap and this is no cap. It's preserving the size of my brain. Brain, yes. According to the Guardian newspaper, Brain, yes. According to the Guardian newspaper, taking short naps during the day helps prevent your brain from shrinking. Which is great news. It's another excuse to take a nap.
Starting point is 00:37:34 But now we have to worry about our brain shrinking. But wait till our brains just like get small? They do. Nothing better than seeing somebody you haven't seen in a while and they look at you and they go like, hey, have you lost some brain? Here is your next limerick. We think cigarettes shouldn't be sold. So check out what our coin vendors hold. Some people
Starting point is 00:37:58 like sweets. We vend permanent treats. It's not silver or bronze. It is... Gold. Gold, yes. In South Korea, you can now buy gold bars in a vending machine. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I was just living there. And did you not see this? No. I used to get coffee in vending machines, though. Really? Basically the same thing. Well, next time, be careful what button you hit, because you might get a gold bar. The bars come in five sizes.
Starting point is 00:38:27 The most popular is the smallest 0.13-ounce size, which costs about $225. Can you imagine, like, feeding $224 bills into a vending machine to get your gold bar, and then the last one just won't go in? Or, like, your gold bar gets gets stuck and it doesn't come down. Oh, I hate that. And then you're going to buy the platinum one behind it
Starting point is 00:38:52 just to get the gold one that you wanted. All right, here is your last limerick. These berries no longer are cute. And this apple's a giant galoot. And I feel like a pig if I finish a fig because the stores are all selling oversized fruit. Yes, fruit. Most things at the grocery store
Starting point is 00:39:15 are getting smaller with shrinkflation, but fruit apparently is getting gigantic. Strawberries are the size of apples. Apples are the size of melons. Melons are the size of two melons. According to an article on The Takeout, there are multiple reasons for this. Apples are the size of melons. Melons are the size of two melons. According to an article on The Takeout, there are multiple reasons for this. Sometimes it's intentional because, like,
Starting point is 00:39:30 larger blueberries stay ripe longer in the store shelves. It's partially related to climate change. Heat makes things grow bigger. And also, fruit is really good at taking naps, so their brains are enormous. I think that's true. Pumpkins. Pumpkins are so big. You want to wake a pumpkin up.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah. It's getting to the point where you can't finish a pumpkin at a single meal. It's terrible. Bill, how did Elizabeth do in our quiz? She did great. She's a winner. Congratulations, Elizabeth.
Starting point is 00:40:03 We'll see you back home in Chicago. Thank you so much. It's a thrill to be on the show. I absolutely love it. Thrilled to have you. Thank you so much. And give our best to your daughter. Thank you. Take care. next big thing. You ought to know this is the next big thing. Now it is time for our final game. Lightning fill in the blank. Each of
Starting point is 00:40:36 our players will have 60 seconds in which to answer as many questions as they can. Each correct answer now worth two points. Bill, can you give us the scores? Roy has two. Nagin and Karen each have three. Oh my goodness. Okay. So that means, Roy, you are in third, or shall we say
Starting point is 00:40:52 in second, as they're tied for first. So you will go first. The clock will start when they begin your first question. Fill in the blank. On Thursday, Ocean Gate Expeditions said their submersible had suffered a catastrophic explosion near the wreck of the blank. The Titanic. Yeah. On Monday, a new catastrophic explosion near the wreck of the blank. The Titanic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:06 On Monday, a new trial began for jailed Putin critic blank. Oh, Navalny. Alexei Navalny, right. This week, the Federal Trade Commission accused Amazon of tricking people into signing up for blank. Not books, surely. Amazon Prime, you see. On Wednesday, officials in China called on President Biden to apologize for calling blank a dictator. Xi.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yes, Xi Jinping. Under pressure from Christian groups, officials in Poland said that the blank bus route would no longer make stops in blank. The Warsaw bus would no longer make stops in Warsaw. No, they promised that the 666 bus route would no longer make stops in hell, No, they promised that the 666 bus route would no longer make stops in hell, which is a town in Poland. This week, a new 57,000-year-old Neanderthal engraving was uncovered in blank.
Starting point is 00:41:56 In the dollar store. No. In France, on Sunday, Wyndham Clark beat Rory McIlroy to win his first U.S. Open blank championship. Golf. Yes. In London, a luxury apartment featuring a bathroom with a blank went on sale.
Starting point is 00:42:13 A bathroom with a toilet. No, a bathroom with clear glass walls. That's right. For just $2.5 million, you can horrify every guest that ever comes over to your place. Bill, how did Roy do on our quiz? He got four right, eight more points. He has a total of 10 to take the lead. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Well done, Roy. Karen, I'm going to choose you arbitrarily to go next, so please fill in the blank. After reaching a deal with the DOJ, Hunter Biden agreed to plead guilty to two charges of failing to pay blank. Taxes. Yes, federal taxes. As their counteroffensive continues, soldiers in blank recaptured another Russian-held village. Ukraine. Right. This week, President Biden met with Narendra Modi, the prime minister of blank. India. Yes. On Tuesday, it was reported that China and Cuba were in talks to set up a military training facility 100 miles from the coast of blank. Cuba. No, Florida. This week, a gas station clerk in Oklahoma who wanted to leave work early was accused of blanking.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Sleeping? No, convincing his friend to rob the store. According to new research, several new drugs have shown signs of slowing the cognitive decline caused by blank. Alzheimer's? Yes. This week, a contestant on The Price is Right was so excited about winning an all-expenses-paid trip to Hawaii that he blanked. He vomited.
Starting point is 00:43:31 No, he dislocated his shoulder while pumping his fist. Oh, no. Once the adrenaline wore off and he got to the showcase showdown, the contestant's arm was so bad that his wife had to come up and spin the wheel for him. He's fine now, but sadly, his trip to the ER was not also all expenses paid. Bill, how did Karen do on our quiz?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Very well. Karen got four right, eight more points. She has 11 now, which puts her in the lead. Very well done. All right. So how many, then, does Nagin need to stroll in and take it from her? Four to tie, five to win. All right. Here we go, Nagin. This is for the game.
Starting point is 00:44:13 On Tuesday, Judge Eileen Kennan set an August trial date for Blank's stolen documents case. Sure. Yes. Following another deadly fire, officials in New York are pushing to regulate Blank batteries. Electric bike. Yes. This week, Jerome Powell said it was likely the Fed would raise blank rates again. Interest rates.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yes. This week, a candidate for mayor of Toronto was accused of using AI to make his campaign posters after a journalist noticed blank. That it was super pixelated. No, that one of the women in his poster, carefully listening to him, had three arms. On Monday, thousands of people lined up to view the Emancipation Proclamation in commemoration
Starting point is 00:44:52 of blank? Of Juneteenth? Yes. On Wednesday, the ongoing blank strike passed the 50-day mark. Writer's strike. Yes. After discovering how expensive rent in New York was, a new intern discovered she could save money by simply blanking. Um, by selling her organs.
Starting point is 00:45:09 No. By commuting, by flying from South Carolina to New York, then taking an Uber into Manhattan. What? The new intern says her commuting plan, again, flying to Newark Airport in New Jersey, I should say, then taking an Uber into Manhattan, saves her $2,000 a month versus renting in the city.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Which is great, because she can put all that money towards physical therapy after having to fly in a middle seat with no leg room for three months straight. Bill, did Nagin do well enough to win? Wait for it. Five, right, ten more points. Thirteen puts her in the lead. Oh, my God. She saw, she conquered. at five, right, ten more points. Thirteen puts her in the lead. And it's good for her.
Starting point is 00:45:47 She saw. She conquered. In just a minute, we're going to ask our panelists to predict after Elon and Zuckerberg go at it, what famous people will get into a cage match next. But first, let me tell you that Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is a production of NPR and WBEZ Chicago in association with Urgent Haircut
Starting point is 00:46:04 Productions, Doug Berman, Benevolent Overlord, Philip Godeka, Rezar Limericks. Our public address announcer is Paul Friedman. Our tour manager is Shana Donald. BJ Lederman composed our theme. Our program is produced by Jennifer Mills, Miles Dornbos, and Lillian King.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Special thanks to Blythe Roberson and Monica Hickey. Peter Gwynn is our wood detangler. Our vibe curator is Emma Choi. Technical direction is from Lorna White. Our CFO is Colin Miller. Our production manager is Robert Newhouse. Our senior producer is Ian Shillog. And the executive producer of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is Michael Danforth. Now, panel, who is getting into a cage match next?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Karen Chee. A big bird versus an actual bird. That doesn't sound fair. Nagin Farsad. Judge Sonia Sotomayor and Judge Eileen Cannon. Just go at it. And White Blood Junior.
Starting point is 00:46:56 We don't really want either Musk or Zuckerberg to win, right? So, Taylor Swift has got the winner. And she will come out dusting her hands and the world will make a little more sense again. She'll just shake it off. Well, if any of that happens, Faddle, we'll ask you about it right here on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Thank you, Bill Curtis. Thanks also to Karen Sheen, Agin Farsad, and Roy Blunt Jr.
Starting point is 00:47:24 don't tell me. Thank you, Bill Curtis. Thanks also to Karen Sheen, Agin Farsad, and Roy Blunt Jr. Thanks to everyone at NEPM, the staff and crew at Tanglewood, and our fabulous audience here in the Music Shed and out on the lawn. I am Peter Sagal, and we'll see you next week. This is NPR.

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