Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Emma Doran (Part Two)

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

In part two of Emily and Ray’s walk with the wonderful Emma Doran, the conversation continues with more warmth, laughter and brilliant storytelling from one of Ireland’s sharpest stand-ups.If you haven’t already, do catch up on part one. And if you’d like to see Emma live, her show Emmaculate is touring across Ireland and the UK this year. Tickets and dates are available at https://emmadorancomedy.com.Follow Emily:Instagram X Walking The Dog is produced by Will NicholsMusic: Rich JarmanArtwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to part two of Walking the Dog with the wonderful Emma Doran. If you want to see Emma Live, her show Emaculate is touring all over Ireland and across the UK this year. So do make sure to book your tickets at emadorincom. Really hope you enjoy part two of our walk and do give us a like and a follow so you can catch us every week. Here's Emma and Ray Reh. What happened was obviously you had Ella? What's happening? This is what's happened.

This is what's happened in your life. I'm telling you. Yes, yes. You had Ella, but at that point, I feel you'd started sort of reaching out to production companies and sort of tentatively dipping your toe in the water. Yeah. So was it a case of, I sort of want to work in this area? Maybe if I'm a runner, no one will know I actually want to perform. 100%.

I was waiting. I'm reading you. Well, this was 100%. My plan was, get in somewhere. You're a runner. Work me way up. And then finally, finally, hopefully it wouldn't take too long, but you know what I mean, at some point,

somebody would turn around and say, Emma, we need you out in front here. We need you in front of the camera. I'd be like, me? Like Emma, yes, you. We've all been saying it. I'm like, guys, I don't know if I can. There'd be a lot of back and forth.

And then it'll all happen. It'll all happen. And I didn't realize that you would have to say it to people. I thought you would just be like, you'd get plucked. Because they can't see you read magazines and books. Everyone is getting discovered. Everyone's getting plucked.

Nobody ever has any plans. Everyone else that they're always like, I just fell into it. Everyone is always falling, fucking sideways, left-ways, into everything. And to me, it just seems to me like that. It seems to me they're trowing themselves into things, aren't they? You have to put the effort in.

You do. I mean, okay, unless you're like, fucking a model or something, those people obviously get scouts and all the rest of it, but otherwise you have to see well you also I mean the troll of medians like you're going after

but I don't you also think I think it's also that lesson you learn particularly for women I think it's a lesson you often learn later is it's okay to ask for what you want and what you need it's okay to state your needs and I think sometimes people never learn that lesson

but I think a lot of the time for women you are slightly conditioned to stating your needs and saying I want this it's seen as arrogant or cocky or ambitious or pushy or demanding. So it's not a very compliant thing to do, is it? To say, I think I'm good enough to do this. I think that was the thing I had to get over it.

It's actually that said, I think I'm good enough to do that. Now, in fairness to my mum and dad, I think they did do a good job of me, like, I would never have been too fussed about what other people would taught about me. I wouldn't have been too bad on that front. I would have been told, oh, I would have been like, oh, you're a show off. You know, as a kid, or the kids would say, you're a show off. That wouldn't bother me. I'd be like, just because I can do a better car.

Whatever. It's more that there was a sort of unseemliness about the whole ambition. Yes. And I do think as well, I didn't realize, I think I thought for a long time that it would always be the most talented of whatever the thing was. either the most beautiful or the most talented of whatever the thing was that would get to the top. And then I was like, oh, no, that's actually not how it works at all. It's not there, is this? Hi, let me order this.

What are you going to get? Do you want anything? Well, maybe a tea. Why don't we get something? So, I feel we've got our coffees now. Yes. I've got a chay latte. You've got a tea.

That's how we roll. Little tea. You, after having Ella, Yes. You were still sort of making inroads into working in TV or in performing in some way, these tentative shy inroads. Yeah, because even like I, I mean, in fairness, I will give myself a pat on the back. I did get it together pretty quick. Like I hired Ella in the May and I went to college in September. And I did get into a course. It was a business and arts management. I heard from people that it was kind of a, like a, a.

sneaking in the back door media course that the points weren't as high. Got it. But you could kind of get into like, because I might have done communications if I had gotten like, you know, they'd have high points because it'd be very popular. So I got into this back drawer thing. So I was always kind of tipping away, seeing if there was a way I could sneak into something somehow. Yeah. But I did really, yeah, I just really wanted to perform.

And I didn't know how or in what way. I knew maybe something funny, but I did, I probably wanted to act, because I think, not that I had anything against stand-up, but I, I didn't really, like, it's not like I'd been going to comedy clubs or, you know, I don't even really seen it on TV, so I didn't really know how you would even go about that. I knew, like, people who did acting went and did drama, and, you know, I knew that that was the thing, but I didn't really know how people got into stand-up, I assumed they just knew people or something but then yeah I was 29 when I did my first gig so I had been I'd

you'd had your second I'd had my son Joe your son Joe at that point yeah and they were with Shane I was with Shane and we were kind of like well I wouldn't say settled like we're still pretty mad but like I was yeah you'd create I have a family yeah we had a family well there was an interesting thing I mean I say interesting it's pretty bad but I think it was just after you'd had Ella, your first baby. Yeah. You were trying to, you'd apply to be, or there was some producer

that you were in contact with about being in a sort of reality show. Oh, yes, it was like, it was a prank show. Yeah, a prank show. Kind of a prank thing. So kind of a set up prank thing. There was a time in Ireland there in the 90s where I think our prank show had worked. And you know, this is kind of the Ashton Culture time.

Yes, yeah. So they got obsessed with fucking punk shows. It was like anyway, there was basically a way of me getting in. I had, at this stage now, I had done a show reel. So it's definitely starting to get a bit more, okay, I'm not going to get discovered. I'm going to have to try and do a few bits myself. So I'd done a show reel. I'd sent it to people.

I found people on LinkedIn. Imagine that he sent my show reel. It's not harrowing tale. No, I basically would watch credits and see who the producer. producer was or you know and send them my show reel so it was very much becoming an obsession and this guy got me to uh yeah was this around the was it how old were you then you not so i was like yeah i was like 20 maybe like 28 so i had and i was i was pregnant with jo but like very early

your second baby so it really felt like oh it's all happening look at me i put myself out there i did this show reel uh this guy he's invited me in for an audition I got because I had started making a few sketches with friends like who I kind of grew up with and putting them on Facebook and then so he'd seen those news like oh you you seem funny whatever and he got me in for this audition so I'm in like RTE sitting in the reception going into doing an audition so I'm like it's all happening I was like this is amazing this is how it all this is the TV career beginning and then I got

the part or whatever and he was saying we start filming whatever it was 15th of May or whatever and I was like oh that's absolutely fine I'll just oh I'm pregnant I will be having a baby in a few days I'm having a baby and when you can see yes concealing again so I went and did the audition about I was about six months pregnant so I just wore a floaty top and then he said oh no we'll sort something out blanked me. So I was so green and I'd never had any like, you know, show busy rejection thing or whatever. I'd be like, that's weird I haven't heard from him. I think I'm going to phone him 17 times today. Like, what's going on? He might, no, never got back to me, never emailed me back, nothing.

And I was devastating at the time because I saw that as like my opportunity. Yeah. My like, break and I was like, oh, it's never going to happen now. Just for which I have another day. Yeah, I know, so am I. Well, you did. But then it pushed me off. Do you know what? It was a great thing, and I'm so glad I didn't get it, because your man in fairness to him had said to me,

at one point he said, you should do stand up. I'm just by somebody saying it to me. What that guy said, that, that, that mean producer. Yeah, he said to me, he said, you should do stand up. Oh, well, you know what, even a stop clock is right twice a day. Look at this doggy. It's not a boy Marana or something. Oh my god.

Where's the photo? Where's the camera? Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yes, little bear dog. They're so cute. Raven, look at this bear.

As good as he stinks. Can I take a picture? Sure. Hello, bear bear. Baby. Hello. Be careful of the slime. Oh, slime, like a boxer dog with the same.

Why's your name? Slime is just like champagne. It doesn't stain. Oh my God, you're beautiful. I love you. Are you a chow? Now, what is he? It's five years old.

It's a Newfoundland. Oh, my God. Rescueers. Newfoundland? Yeah. Can we introduce him to Ray? Do you think he'd get on? What's he like?

This is Ray. Oh, I didn't see him. He didn't see him. He was your purse. Do you think he would like Ray? Is she gentle? He scared, usually of smaller dogs. Oh, he won't like him.

And if this small dog seen him scared, he might bark. This dog might. Oh, he's like... If he feels he's scared, it might trigger him. He's never bark. Will you say hello to him or will he get jealous? Hello baby. What's up? Are you jelly bags?

Oh, hello, Minnie Griffin. Ooh. Oh, is he doing a shot? Can we take a picture of them together? picture of them together. We should go, we should leave you, but thank you so much. I love that. Yeah, I was trying to think what it was because, um, I knew it was, because Newfoundland, isn't that the place that they in Canada, but they have an Irish accent and now you might know. Obviously, I've been more, yes, I think it's Newfoundland. Yeah,

they have an accent. So if you hear, if you hear them, like they sound, like they're Irish. Do you know what's interesting as well about Roman? Then you found them, as you say. He looks like a man in a Muppet costume. Yeah, I know. It's something, isn't there? Look at the way he's walking from the home.

I know, like the way his legs move. It looks like a man. I know, I know. Like a pantow man. A man in a panto costume. It doesn't look real. No, when he's dragging him along there, he just looked like he's just... Ray was a bit frightened.

I know. Ray's like, come on. going on there he's looking at Roman right have some self-control raising your arms thinking at this beast so let's get back to your fabulous career your first stand-up gig yes is you're effectively on maternity leave yes I'm just had the baby yes I'm on maternity leave and you do this gig yeah at this place was it in Vicar Street or I've got that wrong temple bar yeah so there's a place called Hathney Bridge oh it's group, Heapidie Bridge in, they used to have like an open mic.

Yeah. It was called Battle of the Axe. So I thought it was real, I thought it was going to be like eight mile with M&M. You know what I mean? Right. But you always think of like stand-of-comedy or open-mighting has been vicious. I win people trolling chairs and booing. And like, it's mostly just nerds in the room just going to, you know, people coughing or whatever if you're bad.

But you won, didn't you? I mean, that was that was it then. That was the absolute element. I was totally finished. That was, I had found the thing. Must have been great. Emma getting that validation. You know what it was?

Yeah. It was actually amazing. If I'm being honest about it because I saw, I fuck all going on. I'd absolutely nothing. I was there was 29, like happy on a personal level. But like I didn't have a career. Like, you know, because I spent,

I'd spent 10 years kind of like getting jobs, you know, the odd time, but I'd be like, oh, that sounds like could like be creative or connected to something. And then I'd be like, oh no, let me just get this one that's close by. And then I can collect Ella after school and it'll be handy and, you know, all this kind of thing. And I really actually maybe needed someone to say to me, you know, you are going to be, you're going to be like who you are for a long time. There's no, there's no harm to take a bit of time to feel. figure out what you might like to do. But like, look, I didn't have time.

I didn't have the money. You have to have money and time to have our hobbies and interests. That's what used to be my most dreaded thing in an interview. What do you like to do in your spare of time? What are your hobbies? I'm just sitting there and go,

I like TV. I like, you know, fuck off. I don't, you know what I mean? I haven't got time. It's hard as well, I think, because in your case as well, if we're really honest, that's when you develop interests

and passions and a lot of those things or when you're sort of at university, for example. Your time. And then in your 20s, you find out what films you like. But being absolutely responsible for another human being at the age of 18. It does. It takes that. You see, like, don't get wrong. My mom was amazing.

But, like, I would ask my mom for childcare when I needed to do, like, the worky things or the important things. So I felt guilty then if I'd be asking her for me doing something for in her frivolous or whatever. you know what I mean? Or like you'd really want to be like, and I'll be honest, if I was going to get somebody to babysit for something fun or frivolous,

I was going to have a few drinks. And I was kind of, do you know what I mean? It wasn't going to go off and do something. Yeah, yeah. But it was exhilarating. I didn't like to go and do the little set. I had been literally just writing that at home with Joe, who was like, you know, a newborn.

And I usually, I didn't look up, I didn't research or look up like, how do you write a comedy set or like it's so funny looking back at it now I would never um when I started I started like I'd introduce myself or anything like that because obviously the emcee would do that but when I it wasn't until my friend came to see me on like my third gig she said to me she was like oh it's really good she's like but it might there might be like there might be like there might be something in like that when you're finished to let people know that you're finished so what I was doing was I was just saying my last joke and just walking off stage I like I had the clue I was like I was like I

You know, there you're like, that's my timer. You've been great. Did you not say that? No. He's just sitting on the punchline and walk off. I just say the last punchline and walk off. I would have had the confidence to say. I quite like you.

You've been amazing. You've been great. I've been drawing all this shows. What I like is at someone who's saying the revolutionary new comic disrupting the comedy industry with this weird thing where she just wanders off without even wrapping up. It was basically just me, Scarla. Scurla. Scala.

I was just going to go, well, maybe I shrugged me shoulders. Like, maybe it's going, I'm walked on stage. Like a teenager. Oh, my God. I don't know. You should have read your last line. Oh, my God, how embarrassing. Yeah.

It just rock up. It took a while. It took a while. You don't do that anymore. No, no, no. And in fact, I don't. I don't. I don't do all that anymore.

In-demand woman. And this is, we should say, immaculate. Loving that. Yeah. which is you're touring with that. Yes. It's kind of pretty much you're doing dates throughout this year, aren't you?

Yeah. Yeah, so it's kind of, it's grown a little bit now. I started in September. And yeah, it's good. I think it's now. Was it inspired by Madonna in any way? No, not as well. It's inspired by, basically.

Because of course I'm not, that word makes me just think of one thing. Which are a Immaculate Collection, I think, called. Oh no, see, so for me... But I love the pun on Emacula. Oh yeah. In fact, that's going to be my nickname for you. The thing for me is, so immaculate is that when I was growing up, that was the biggest compliment.

A mom could give another mom if she told her that her house was immaculate. Like that was a major compliment. She came and she got, oh, Margie, she had the place, mackle, oh, the kids are fabulous, immaculate. Oh, she got new floors there, immaculate. All the moms were upset. obsessed about having their house immaculate tickety-boo, you know what I mean? You don't want anyone calling in and the house in shite you want everything to be immaculate because that was your you know roles are very defined that was your responsibility to keep that house in check

so if it wasn't it was your fault and that's obviously a very that's a word that has enormous amount of Catholic references to it as well so it works very well that I like that I think of what I say think of things being immaculate but yeah so that my mom would have been very much a mac you know immaculate mom or she you know she'd be like washing skirting boards and you know like I'd always talk about things like a rage clean you know like where you'd have to just everyone has to evacuate the house and you're just like she'd go on the floor and gone around like crazy and everyone's like screaming like get out girl you know then I can I wash she can I go to the toilet No, you can't. I just clean.

Does your mum feature in your standoff at all? Oh, yes. She does now. I think I've heard her sometimes when I've seen clips and things. She does now, yes. Oh, look at this guys. What's this? Oh, he's a heron. Oh, that's what he is. I like a heron, but I think he might see Rayer's lunch.

But he's kind of a hairy herring. What is his little bill there? I have loads of him. Hairy heron. Harry heron. Hello. Oh, he looks like a man. You can tell how much face he's taking up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Posing. Don't you think it's a man? Mm-hmm. I do. Oh, he's rather sweet, isn't he? He is nice, yeah.

They're kind of nice looking. Hello, Heron. We don't have any food for you. Oh, he thinks to do that, isn't it? He probably gets food normally. So, Immaculate, it's kind of, it's what people have come to it. You know, it's you doing you, basically. Yeah.

But what do you think? it feels in this show kind of like what direction do you think you've taken things in that maybe you haven't before what is kind of new for this show about me? You know what I think it is a nice to be a cliche thing to say you know a band like oh this is but almost honest work yet. You know what that is Scarlet. Yeah yeah Scarlet. I'm saying it.

Yeah, I'm getting into it. But it is so it's about my mom and how she was how she mother and then it moves into me and then my relationship with my ma'am and then my relationship with my daughter and a little bit about how you know oh i'm just like a you know in my head thinking when i had my daughter i was so like young and cool and whatever i like turns out like you're actually not do i mean because it had to be like it had a bit where i was saying about my mom you know i feel like her generation when they were walking down the street like you knew they were maz yeah like they had big mad heads and they were kind of like i'm doing mass stuff and now you don't know who's a mom who's not you're always you're Because as soon as you, there was a thing of like, Frank Skinner, who I do a show with, he says, all the mums in my, he said, you don't know what real moms are like him. He said, you grew up in North London. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. And I said, what do you mean? He said, you go up in Highgate, you have no idea.

He said, all the moms in the school playground, they look like Elton John. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, with the glasses and hair. Yeah, that was the thing, they all got the mushroom due haircuts. And my mom, and my mom, when I had Ella, I'm 18, so, yeah. Wait, you see, you'll cut the hair off now, you'll cut the hair off now. I think she was egging me to cut the hair, because that's what they were kind of told. I thought they were selling the hair to pay for the houses or something. Because they got married and the hair was fucking gone.

Mushroom dues. All these women so young, 24, 25 with mushroom dues. Did I think they fucking semi-perf? Yeah. Scarce. Oh my God, completely. Do you think she was a really attractive woman? What did she wear those glasses?

A young woman. But that they all did and they got married. They just said, right, that's the end of that. Yeah. Should it look like... Shut up shop? Oh yeah, but I don't buy in houses, having babies non-stop. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. It's not like any of them had cars. Not about cars. Talking of hair. Trades into the shops. Did you always... Because your hair is... I hate talking about people's appearance.

You're so shallow, but I do feel in your case, this isn't just saying, oh, I like your hair. It's like, I wonder if I think being a... redhead is the kind of identity all of its own in a sense. Oh, totally because obviously I hated it as a child. The greatest fear. Do you get it now? Do you think now?

I love it now. And I hope that it stays red for long because redheads, well, they don't go grey, they go white. Oh, I'm really jealous. So you go lighter, really. You go lighter, but I hope I keep it for a while. But yes, you would be, obviously, again, scarlet be redhead, mortified. And the biggest thing that you were worried about was always the people, like teenager, people, would find out you had ginger pubs.

There was the greatest fear. You were always worried about that when you were pregnant. Oh my god. You thought, oh no, the nurse is gonna see on they're gonna know. And I used to think maybe I'll be okay because of like the dark eyes and you know I could show people off the scent

when I was growing up, I'd be like, has Ella got red hair? I was gonna say, just gonna have red pubes. I was like. Oh my God. I was so, can we leave that out? It's not my kind of party here. No, she has red hair, but hers is a more.

It's all right. Her is a light. A lighter, like a kind of a, you know that like a strawberry blonde? Yeah, and she's kind of curly. She's curlier than me. Oh, you're lovely. She's fantastic here. Oh, look at this one.

Is this a golden doodle? It is. Oh, I love a doodle. You're the best doodles. They see very friendly dogs. You really friendly. You want to meet Raymond, don't you? I keep forgetting about Ray.

I know. Raymond's very tired, doodle. What's the doodle called? Ohney. Oh, hi. This is Raymond. Oh my God! Please. Okay, we need immediately.

This is the best thing I've ever seen. So we've just met, what's this little dog called? Silla. Silla. Oh, is it Tilla black? What can you say? Silla. Cilla.

Come and see Raymond. Oh, Silla, you're so cute. So you let Raven's hair grow long. Yeah. You're very great. I know. Silla, Silla. He goes to the grunas every six weeks and then I brush him myself. It's pretty much nightly to be honest.

Like today he's been walking but I've got him into the thing where he quite, what are you doing Silla? Oh, she's smoothing. Look at this guys. Silla, can I take the picture of you Silla? How old is Silla? She's coming up to five. Sillow, oh Scylla, look at Scylla. And is Scylla Roshitsu?

Yeah, yeah. Same as Raymond, look. small father oh yeah yeah Raymond too yeah you both had small fathers the mother was what I call normal size oh yeah but the fathers were quite sweet Silla Silla Silla bark yes Raymond's never barked oh she can be reactive you know she hears a noise outside oh yeah this is a home and the hay yeah oh I feel like we've met loads of really interesting dogs today haven't we haven't we had you I think you might be smaller than Scylla.

Do you think, yes, it probably is. Right, we should go. It's so lovely, bye-bye, Sillie. Bye. Oh, look at Silla. I love her friend. She looks like she's been in White Snake or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She has a rock star her. Bye-bye, Silla. Her coat's lovely, isn't I? So, that's only dogs. I know, I love the dogs. A real, more than not. Would you have had a real day out like? So do I.

I think, do you know what? I think you attract the, the interest dogs because you're an interesting person. Do you think so? Yeah. I feel like we've been to a dog park. So do I. I'm like remember that dog park we went to I. There wasn't a dog park Emma. I feel like we've paid for some sort of

experience or something. We haven't at all. So I should say I would love to come and see you Emma. And you're doing some dates Soho Theatre, I believe. I am doing, I tell you what I'm doing. I'm doing Soho Waldenstow.

I'm going to come there. I think it's sold out Bros. squeeze in. Oh. I'm squeezing. No, I'll squeeze you in. I'm adding the palladium. Oh, shut up.

Look at you. Scarlet. I know. I guess somebody says to you this day. I'm doing the paladin. I'm sorry. I love you, Wolfham's Stroh. Yeah.

I'm a play. I'm like, let's go bigger. And somebody says to me, what's the palladium like? I was like, no idea. When would I have been there? Isn't that amazing? But I'm delighted.

I'm so. for you because you see the thing I forgot or didn't take into consideration I was like Arlen's a very small place yeah this is the thing I kind of forgot see like here when you when I say like oh you live in Dublin everywhere in Dublin is around 20 minutes away from everywhere else is let these lovely people pass I'm very like them oh so So I'm going to come and see you at the Palazium. Yeah, do. And if anyone wants to get tickets, they can go, is it easiest to get them from your website?

Yes. My website is emadourinecom.com. Emadorncomedy. Yeah. Okay. Well, we are definitely going to get them. And, yeah, my mom and dad are going to come, I think. Well, I need to come.

Yeah, yeah, they're going to come for the trip. And because I'm Bruce Forsy's Aches there. That's right. Yeah. But you can go to them, can you? I don't know. I'm not sure. I've done a few things only with... When I used to work for a radio station, Absolute Radio, and we used to have...

Do kind of gigs there. Yeah. Like, it was stand up for cancer things. Oh, yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And I think Pete Comics always talk about it. I reckon there is a way you can go in. There must be a way.

Yeah, maybe you can. Let's ask. Let's find out. Oh, well, Emma, I couldn't be happier for you. Thanks so much. Do you know what? I know and you obviously did last one laughing. Yeah. Which was incredible. You were so good on that.

What? Out first. It was inevitable. I didn't know until the day I got there. I didn't want to say it and I thought you should say it. I was like, oh, I'm going to be out first. I was like, I don't think there's any shame because that means you're the most socially generous. See, I didn't know.

I didn't know. And actually people kind of said, oh, you actually came. You gave cross as nice. You did. Actually, okay, I was like, fine. That's the trouble. You want to win, you see. But I just, I don't know if you do want to win that show.

You see, maybe you doubt. I think you want to come somewhere in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you've struggled along the way. It's like, oh, okay, you find it easier not to laugh at your colleagues. Yeah. Really? Is that a badger mother?

You're dead inside. Yeah. Well, it's like, only I'm funny. Yeah. Oh, totally. Yeah. No, I was, I was, uh, ghosted straight away. It's so good that show and Graham's great on it.

Oh he's great, yeah, he's so um, I realised I felt bad. I was going to say, oh yeah, he's really nice and I thought, I'm not going to say, Do you know Graham Norton? Like to an Irish person? I do, in fairness, so mad him on the show. I don't know, no.

You met him on the show. I met him on the show. Yeah, he seems nice. No, I thought he was lovely. Yeah, it was mad, but we were all, we did it, and we were all like, uh, everyone went, and went bloobers after him. Because I got kicked out, so,

early and Graham said to me he was like do you want to fancy drink I was like do I actually will go because I thought I'll be the first everyone's going to be like steps to stairs now everyone's going to come out no they're in for hours after me they got pizza while they were in there nobody thought to feed me thanks very much I was still in there with Graham knocking back the gins now absolutely no measures I had to be escorted off the premises. I was deranged. Are you drunk? Oh, because you know all that adrenaline pumping through you and then it's like oh there's drink there if you want it and it's like free pouring gin. Oh it had to be like put and it had to be basically thrown into a taxi and then shade said basically

I came home and he was in bed and I what happened was he's in bed and I got on top of him nothing like that but I got on top of him to tell him everything that had happened that day. And then Dave Max Savage did this and then we all did that and then I laughed and I said and then about, you know, the whole thing, the whole experience and he's like half asleep and I'm, er. Anyway, that was the end of my day, night. I'm so what the fuck. Oh, bullshit. Well, let's go here. We'll take one last photo here in the daffodils. Well, I like it. Do you have any other little names from?

Or is you just? Yeah, I've got loads. I mean, yeah. Hello, my little, I call him Prince. Oh yeah. My little prince. You must have names for your dog. Oh yeah, well Twiggy is TIG-Tig and then Tiggith her and sluggeth her and she gets loads of names and then Stan is obviously he'll, he'll, Stan, Stan, Stan the man, the kids have loads of names of them as well. Yeah, they're just, the names, the list of names gets longer and longer.

Emma, you just seem such a kind of well-adjusted person. I often think that's a sign of quite a stable upbringing, you know? Yeah, oh yeah. Like despite, I know you had a lot to deal with, because that was, your life suddenly ended up taking a direction you didn't think it was going to. And I imagine there's some stuff to process with that, you know. Yeah. You wouldn't change that situation for the world, obviously. No, of course not.

It was an unusual start to life you had. Yeah. But then I, I don't know. I just get the feeling you maybe have really good parental support throughout that. I think, yes. Oh, I think I definitely did. I didn't feel like my parents taught that I had failed. It wasn't the Coronation Street East Ender storyline is what I'm saying.

No, no, they didn't think I had failed. I didn't feel like they loved me any less. I mean I did always feel like my parents were mad for me you know well though you've just summed it up why you're seen well adjusted yeah and I don't know why it comes because you know I suppose the stereotype is that people that are attracted to comedy you know yeah where's your damage where's the damage I think it's just I want human connection but I want like I don't I'm not great with groups you know like so like my girls who like say I

grew up with. I love the world, but we have a WhatsApp group. I hate that. And I rarely gets involved with the WhatsApp group and rarely knows where the birthday party is happening. I'm quite an insular person in lots of ways. I could quite happily because that's why sometimes I have to force myself to go and do things in a group setting because I could be a loner and actually me and my brothers and my mom and my dad we are all like that. We're all very like kind of self-contained people. Yeah. So I have to because but then you start, you don't think

you don't realise you've gone mad you see. That's what happens. I know. You don't know that you've gone mad. So you have to keep check on that. So I have to force myself to do things. But I don't crave. No, I don't. But then I'm great for I've done it. And I've got friends who are very into

organising things. They'll be the first to set up the WhatsApp group. Let's meet at seven. We're going to this amazing new restaurant in. I'm not doing that. And I think, I want to stay in and watch that. new series made by the Crown about Fergie's assistant. I feel when I do those things, as a part of me thinking, oh God, I've got to reply to the WhatsApp, we've got to go to think,

I always feel happy that I've gone. Are you the same? Actually, we need those people in our life who do organise it. Yeah, and I'm probably the person that's going to send you a voice note tomorrow. It was so good to see it. I thought about the last time I saw you, and I just felt, and the people are like, what the fuck, is she dying? Why should send me this?

But it actually means sandwich to me then when it does happen. But yeah, I just feel like I'm a terrible organiser and stuff. So I feel like sometimes stand-up is like a, it's a fake friendship for me in a way because I feel this huge connection with the people then. Yeah. You know, because if people are saying things, she're like, oh my God, that was my life. Or, you know, if somebody finds you funny and gets your sense of humor, that's a real connection with somebody.

you know so it's kind of like a fake friendship thing where I it's really all on my terms isn't it because I'm saying let's be friends with the only way you can be is you buy tickets it's kind of it's quite transactional yeah you're in this room for an hour and a half yeah after that let us never speak of this again yeah yeah yeah but please don't bother me outside of this I'm very busy so but I do I meet everyone after the show and so. I love the people think I'm mad. My friend is okay. Yeah, but you're nice though.

I love, but I love chat to people. I love getting the info. I love getting the gas. I love finding out who they're with, how they ended up at the show. Are you a people-pleaser? I think I have to be. Am I? I, I was being.

Yeah, I think I am. I would never say to somebody, like I've watched friends of mine. I totally would have in the rights to say, look, I have to go. I could never say that to somebody. If you're on Ireland and someone says, because I know, I mean you're, you know, I imagine you're recognisable everywhere, but I imagine an island that goes up exponentially. If you're walking down the street and someone asked for a selfie, do you sometimes say...

Could never say no. Could never say no to that. Really? Could never. Could never. Goodness me. Sometimes I say to just will you whack a, will you whack a filter on that? Because sometimes I will. By the way, I will whack a lot of filters.

don't you worry. I go, whack a filter on that. We're going to look like Katie Price by the time I'm done with us. We're going to be like Disney animals. What's going on with Katie at the moment? Is she married or not?

And she injured, boy, what's happening? I used to have my finger on the pulse with Katie. I'm obsessed with that man. What's happening? I've done a lot of deep dive. Have you? Okay. Put it this way.

It's kind of hard. It's quite hard to find out what he actually looks like. Okay. He's so deep into the filters. Yeah, yeah. I've never seen it. The deep fakeness of it is unreal. I looked at this picture and I thought, hang on.

It's unbelievable. There's one picture of what he really looks like. Sometimes people post pictures with me. And I'm just saying, that's me. Because they've filtered it south full. That's what you'll say when you see my one. I love when they felt, these are my favourite ones. When they've filtered only their face

and they've left everyone else looking normal. Can I say? You have to filter everything. I would never do that. Yeah, yeah, you have to filter everybody. Do you know what I mean? If it just makes it more obvious that you're filtered then. Yes, why do they do that?

They think it looks less obvious but it doesn't. No, it makes the whole thing look more obvious. Now, but if somebody, sometimes I'll have like my sock curls in. Yeah, what's that? Sock curls. Oh, that's how I curl my hair. It looks amazing. Really?

Yeah. I love this. What is this? What is this? Cinderella? Sock curls? You put socks in your hair? Yeah.

Like a sock, a long sock you're the side of your head. Are you twirling around? Is that genuinely how you curled your hair? Oh, yeah, all the time. But you've got the nicest hair I've ever seen. No, you should be doing the sock girls as well, 100%. I'm going to go into George Northwood, who's my hairdresser. And so, excuse me, could you give me a sock curl?

No, it's a sock. A sock? A sock that you wear in your foot. Yes, but, oh, I know that. You don't need George. You can do that yourself. You go in and ask George. You put a sock in your hair and be like, okay.

Excuse me, I do Megan Markle and Rosie Hunter. So do I wear the sock at night? Yeah, you wear a sock at night. But sometimes if I'm going to the airport early or whatever. Do you do it every night at the sock? Most nights. Really? Yeah, I'll put it in.

But you see if I'm like this, like if you're going to the airport early, I'm not taking that out. I'm just leaving it in to go to the airport. Who cares? The sock curl, I'm going to start doing it. Yeah, it's simple as. It's handy then your hair is done. I just want to be doing, and my arm just gets too sore doing the curtain. No, it's too much.

Oh, no. It's too much. Emma, I've absolutely loved our walk. Have you enjoyed it? Oh, so much. It's been so nice. And I feel. I feel so, do you know what?

This might sound strange. Well, I feel like I'm going to go home. I've have forgotten that I'm not at home. That's how relaxed it. I feel like I'm going to go home to my house now and I'm not going to home. So, yeah, it's been lovely. It's so nice. It's been very nice and normal.

I can tell you and Ray get on really well and he likes your energy. And maybe we haven't been to Dublin for a while. Have you not? No. Last time I went, I've been quite a few times. The last time I went was for a very intensive retreat I went to outside Dublin. Oh, yeah. There was a thing called the Hoffman process.

And it was incredible. Oh, yeah. And I didn't have Ray then. And that was partly what inspired me to get Ray. Oh. Yeah. But anyway, I haven't been for a while, and I kept saying, because Dublin's such a special place to me,

I kept thinking I really need to go back with Ray, so maybe we'll come and we'll visit you there. Oh, totally do. Can we? Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously biased. I love, I mean, I love Dublin. I mean, it is small, but I think I'll always probably live in Dublin. I think maybe I might live other places at certain points,

but I think it'll always, I just love this. I mean, that's a bit rude. As soon as I say we're coming over, you say, yeah, I think we're going to move. No, no. I suppose I'm saying I'm very biased about the place. Yes, I hear you. But I do love the energy of Dublin.

You know what I mean? Well, do you know what I love? I do with the people? Do you know what I love the energy of? Emma. Dawn. We love you. Scat.

Scouts. Emma, thank you so much. Thanks so much for your time. And I really recommend everyone goes to see you in Emacula. I will be going to see you. at the palladium. Yeah, the palladium. And Ray, you won't be welcome, I'm afraid.

You can stay home. I might sneak him in. Yeah, do. Put them on a little... I think if people are burying ashes there, I can take my shih Tzu for goodness sake. I don't think anyone would say anything, do you? Most people don't notice them. The many people today that didn't even know, I said, oh, I thought there was a handbag.

I would. If someone said, excuse me, you can't have... I said, do you mind? This is my husband. What would they say? No. I was mad and that I thought this was my husband. I'd say, excuse me, this is my partner of 17 years. How dare you talk to my husband like that. This is Raymond.

Emma, we've, when you say goodbye to Ray? Goodbye, Ray. Little face. Bye-bye. We love you, Emma. Yes, adorable, isn't it? Bye. Close over.

Say bye. Literally falling asleep in your arms there. Look at them. Say goodbye to him. Bye. Just keep laughing at my dog. Bye, way. He's lovely, is he there?

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