Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Kiell Smith-Bynoe (Part One)

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

This week Emily and Ray take a stroll with the hugely talented actor, comedian and writer Kiell Smith-Bynoe.Kiell is best known for his brilliant role in the hit BBC series Ghosts, which is set to return in film form later this year with Ghosts: The Possession of Button House. He’s also had standout appearances in shows like Stath Lets Flats, Man Like Mobeen and Taskmaster, and has become one of the most exciting and versatile performers on screen.On the walk, Kiell chats to Emily about his childhood growing up in East London, discovering later in life that he had more siblings than he first thought, and how his love of performing started early, leading him from drama school to a brief stint as a teenage MC. They also talk about his gift for improv, which he’s turned into a hugely popular live show, Kool Story Bro, where audience anecdotes are transformed into chaotic, hilarious sketches.The tour kicks off on May 1st and tickets are available now at https://koolstorybro.co.uk.Follow Emily:Instagram X Walking The Dog is produced by Will NicholsMusic: Rich JarmanArtwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

You've got the oldest job of everyone. Can you tell more people that? Tell BAFTA that. This week on Walking the Dog, Ray and I took a stroll with the hugely talented actor, comedian and writer Kyle Smith Bino. I was particularly thrilled to meet this man as I was such an enormous fan of the BBC series Ghosts, which he starred in. And by the way, I almost passed out with excitement

when I heard that Ghosts was returning in movie form. The film's called Ghosts the Possession of Buttonhouse and it's out later this year. Kyle's also had seen stealing turns in shows like Stathlet's flats, man like Mobin and Taskmaster. But perhaps my favourite fact about Kyle was that he was the person, this is no joke, responsible for coming up with the phrase platy jubes to refer to the late Queen's Platinum Jubilee. And if that's not grounds for a knighthood, I don't know what is. Kyle just exuded warmth and positive energy from the moment he bounded into view on a bike and we had the nicest walk chatting about everything from his childhood in East London where he grew up as an only child

despite later discovering he had quite a few siblings we also talked about his passion for performing which started at a very young age it led him to drama school and a brief career as a teenage MC but it was his breakthrough role on staff let's flats that really introduced us to his comic brilliance. And since then, frankly, we haven't been able to get enough of him. Kael is also very well known for his improv skills. In fact, he's built an entire live comedy show around his improv called Cool Story Bro, where he and a team of comedians spin hilarious sketches out of audience anecdotes. It's touring all over the UK from May 1st and it's hugely popular and sells out quickly. So do make sure to book your tickets now at coolstorybro.co.uk.

Ray and I absolutely adored Kyle. I mean, he's obviously an endlessly funny, entertaining person to be around. But he's also one of those people who you feel instantly relaxed and at ease with. In fact, I was enjoying our walk so much. We lost track of time and Kyle was running late for his next appointment. So I ended up giving him a lift to the station, which was a treat for me, but perhaps slightly less of a treat for him, because I later discovered that weird smell permeating my car on the journey

was in fact a full poo bag I'd left in my jacket pocket. So all I can say is thanks for ruining a beautiful friendship, Raymond. Really hope you enjoy our walk. Here's Kyle. And can I say, I'm so excited about interviewing you today because I have a lot of people on, sometimes I'm a fan, sometimes I pretend to be. Sure. And you're all done it. You're pretending to be.

We've all done it, Kyle. In your case, I'm a huge fan. Oh, thank you. Not in a creepy way, but in a going online to search bloopers, ghosts, people laugh it. You know what, it's not enough to see the show. Yeah. And you've been in some of my favourite shows, so I cannot wait to get to chat to you. You've turned up with a very cool entrance.

Was it? I thought, mm-hmm. It's not my favourite of my entrances. Yeah, but you were on a line bike? Yeah. Which in itself is quite free-spirited. Yeah. And then...

Then I had to pause to find somewhere to park. That was a bit less cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that slowed it all down, really. And you're certainly one of the best dressed that I've had on. Thank you. This is what I care about. You like your clothes? People can't see this.

Well, they will. We'll take a picture. I can make up what I wear it. We'll take a picture. But you like your clothes, don't you? Yeah, I do. You commented on my jacket, which is very nice of you. And then I immediately told you that I had a hole in the pocket.

You couldn't see that, so I didn't need to tell you at all. And now I think about 10% less of you. Yeah. And I've done that. So when you arrived, you met Raymond. Yes. And, not going to lie, seemed a bit underwhelmed by him. Really?

I mean, this is a cool dog. Do you think so? Yeah, I do. Let's go up here. I think I was surprised by the name. Really? Yeah. I wanted the kind of name that an old actor would have in the Sweeney.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Because it's what people would expect him to be called Fluffy Kin. Yes, exactly that. And that's why I went for someone who might say, with the Benson and Hedges in his mouth, you're looking at a 10-year stretching chokie? Well, that is, when I think of, when I hear the name Raymond, I think of, I automatically think of Ray Winston.

Yes. Romondo. And he's a little bit named after Ray Parlor, because I'm an Arsenal fan. Oh, I was thinking about Ray Parlor just yesterday. The Ronford Pelley. Why was I thinking about him more than any other than any. more than anyone else. I guess we'll never know.

You're not going to stop thinking about him. Yeah. So you turned up, you saw Raymond, a bit freaked out by the name, and then you revealed that your other half might be on the way with the dog. Possibly. Which is a cockapoo?

Yes, he's a cockapoo. And she said, Are you sure you want me to bring him, remember he's a cricket? I love her. I actually love her. And I was like, yeah. And then she asked me in great detail what the podcast entails.

And she's like, so other dogs. And I was like, well, how's that going to work? I was like, no, I think it would be fine. Fast forward. She's not here, he's not here. And your dog is called? Rolo. Oh, I love that.

Because it's brown and black. Oh. Oh, my pet's falling down my cat. Okay, got it. Did you got it? Yeah, because it's brown and black. Like the Rolos. I mean, Rolos aren't really brown and black, but I guess the branding is.

Yeah. So the Rolo's still exist. I think of them as quite 70s, 1970s sweet. Maybe you get them on Amazon. A bit before your time. Oh, no. Really? No.

I remember those adverts in the 90s. Oh, yeah, your last rollo. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And so why cockapoo? And when did you guys get your dog? I mean, one day she told me she's got a dog. It was quite early into us dating.

Yeah. And then literally she was like, I've got a dog. I said, what? And she sent me a picture. And I was like, what, like to look after? I thought, no, I bought a dog. And yeah, and then from then we've had Rolo. Well, look, that's a Dalmatian.

That's the most cinematic of dogs, isn't it, for obvious reasons? Lovely to look at that, actually. Oh, hello, my darling. Oh, it's ever so sweet, and so a little bow. Oh, you like my Chanel bag? I got chased by a Dalmatian once. Did you? Yeah.

When I was in primary school, because it was a small. Because I went to primary school in Forest Gate and not far from Green Street where the film was made. It probably wasn't made there, but it was about that. Upton Park and I think we, I remember it was definitely a hot day and I think that like the lady that used to pick me up James Harris's mum, Pauline, she let us go to the shop or something and then got chased by a damnation. Really?

And in my head, it was for five hours. But it was probably like, it was probably like two minutes. But don't you think people were so much more sort of random with dogs then? In terms of, maybe just let them out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't even know if the dog was actually chasing. It's probably like interested in us. And then I ran and then it was like, oh, where you go?

Where are you going? Yeah. But in my head I got chased by a Dalmatian the whole way down Green Street for five hours. But you like the dog? Yeah, I like Rolo. Do you? But he is a cricket. It's like you must stop at some point.

You've got to like relax. You have to chill out buddy. And I think that's what I'd be saying nonstop if he was here. Is he like one of those, you know when parents? You know when parents have a child who's running around, having like a lunatic, and parents say, Tristan's very spirited, normally in Stoke, Newington and places? Is he one of those?

I think he is one of those, yeah. Yeah. What was your... But she's not as strict as I am. Is she not? No. Love and boundaries. Yeah.

Oh, look, these might be nice friends for Ray. Let's see. What do you think? We'll take his lead off. Ray, look, there's a lovely little dogie here. What dog is Ray? Ray is an imperial shih Tzu. Imperial. That's nice to have in the name, isn't it?

So sweet. Yeah. I'll pick him up. He'll probably tell him. Oh. Come here, Ray. That's such a sick burn. I feel so embarrassed.

No words, please. Do you want to say what happened that was so multiplying? I really humiliated myself, and Raymond? Didn't I? Let's be honest. Well, Raymond got... Redmond was put, put, it was lowered to the ground with the hope of making some friends that were coming along. I don't know what those two dogs were. And the lady opposite asked immediately picked her dog up and asked if Raymond was a boy. And then he was discriminated

against on account of his gender. I didn't like it, Kyle. And she turned, she turned away, actually. awful. She didn't even keep her eyes on him. Raymond, it's all right. You're accepted. You're amongst your people here. We're your friends. So what was your experience of dogs growing up? Because you grew up with, was it your mum and your dad originally? Did they live together? No, they never lived together. So my dad lived in Brighton and my mum in East Ham where I lived and I'd see my dad quite a lot very sporadically. And this is Fitzburn? Fitzburn is it?

Fitzburn, Isaiah Smith. What a great name. And yeah, he would just pop up. Every now and then he'd just pop up. And sometimes more regularly than other times. Sometimes I'd see him like four times a week. Sometimes I'd see him once a month. And you kind of later discovered there was partly a reason for that

because his time was, he had to spread his hours across. Yeah, well, I say that. I mean, so the reason you're saying that is because my dad had 12 children. Yeah. But I was the youngest, apparently. Yeah. And so by the time I was born, a lot of the others were sort of in their late teens. Right.

So he wasn't having to do the sort of looking after the kids. Or the sports days or that, yeah. Yes, exactly. Oh, Kyle, do you think he's doing a poo? Hang on. I'm not, I couldn't possibly be sure. Do you think he did well? Let me just check Ray,

that's such a great silhouette of a walk. Oh Kyle, I thought you were talking about me then. I got really excited. He's not... Oh God, will you look away? I've got business. We've got to take care of business, literally. Understood.

Look, you can't be meeting ladies with ship dangling from your ass. It's not your finest look. There we go. Does it all come? How do you find the picking up poos? With Rollo? I'll be honest. I haven't had to do it for a long time. So, Rolo. Rolo lives with my girlfriend's mum, who I think is a good pairing. pairing yes because he gets her out of the house yes and otherwise I don't really think she would so she yeah Rona lives with her and we'll have him occasionally for the weekend or something but that's quite a nice arrangement yeah it because we're busy people

and she probably really likes it yeah she does yeah your girlfriend's not so So your childhood we were talking about? Yes. Your mum and dad, as you say, they weren't... So you didn't grow up with them together. You lived with your mum. Yeah. But when I look back on all the important moments in my life and events,

my mum and dad were always there together. Really? Is that lovely? Yeah. And yeah, they never... They never officially lived together. And your dad was a cricketer, wasn't it? Well, I was a cricketer, yeah. Isn't that amazing?

Yeah. That's how he got all around the gaff, all over the place. And, yeah, he got about. And when, as you were saying, your dad, it seems like he was still a presence in your life. Yeah. But it was interesting. I heard you talking on lovely Adam Buck's story. Lovely Adam Buxton's podcast and you were saying that you didn't actually know about your siblings.

No, I sort of learned about them sort of. Well, I knew that I had one because my dad would give me her like old school books and textbooks and stuff. Yeah. So I knew about her. I'd also met Patrick, my older brother when I was about five, six. But you hadn't registered that or? Well, I kind of, I saw him recently. I saw Patrick about a month ago. And he was saying to me that he remembers meeting me because my dad brought me to his workplace. He was working in a car dealership in,

I want to say Ballam, maybe Tooting, wherever the McDonald's is with the slide that comes outside. And this is after, so after, obviously, because when you're a professional cricket, He's only got so many years in you. So he was doing other dogs at that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he took me to the car dealership

that Patrick was working at. And Patrick said he remembers looking at me and saying he looks like me. Oh my God. And my dad went, yeah, so brother. And he was like, what? And I was like five at that time. So he had no idea about me.

And Patrick and my dad were clothes. Right. So he was... It seems like... And forgive me if this is presumptuous, but it almost feels as if your dad kind of wanted you guys to know about each other and like the idea of you having relationships,

but was maybe because of his generation was slightly frightened of the emotional labour that came with sitting you all down. I think that is 100% accurate. Really? Yeah. Because I knew of Anna Lee. I met Patrick.

I met Patrick when I was, well, I met Patrick when I was really small. I knew of Annalie because of her books. And then when I was 14, my dad said to me, we're going to Birmingham to meet your sister. And I was like, what's Birmingham? Who's my sister? And then... It's just like something I'll be standing this, isn't it?

Doop, do, do. Yeah. And then I went and met Elaine in Birmingham. And she had two children, Jordan and Chanel and Jordan's only, what, five years under me, maybe? And I remember, like, meeting them and hello, hi, yeah, hi. And then that evening, I think my dad had, like, fallen asleep on a couch or something, and the kids have gone to bed, and my sister said to me,

so how many of us have you met? And I was like, oh, yeah, I met Patrick when I was like a baby. and like I know of Annali. And so like, yeah, I knew, so that's like everyone. And I remember her, turning to me in her, with her Bromi accent going, oh, Kyle. And then she just showed me so many pictures

or so many siblings. She's like, that's her sister, that's his sister, that's his sister, that's his sister, that's your brother, that's his sister. And I was like, what? I just had no idea. And this guy's just snoring on the sofa. I'm like, big man, wake up.

up. Did you say to your dad? I suppose you were a kid. Yeah, I was 14. So you didn't ever have that conversation with him after that. Not really, but I guess it was just sort of like, right, well he knows now. Right. Yeah. And then I got invited, my sister started inviting me to like family events and she's the one that really holds everyone together in the family. Is this Elaine? Yeah, Elaine, yeah. She knows everyone's birthday. She knows what's going on. She knows who's having what event, whose kids having a christening, all of that stuff, and she'll invite everyone to everything. So she really keeps the family strong, I think. And yeah, from then, that's when I just started meeting people.

And I was still meeting people up until maybe, what was it, two months ago? My dad's sister, Aunt Frieda, her husband died at 92. And I went to his funeral two months ago. and I was still meeting cousins. And apparently there's been a family tree made by one of our cousins. So I need to get into that. And I know your dad, you lost your dad. 2018.

Yeah. So it must have been, was it comforting having your siblings? Yeah, I mean, I remember when we were in the hospital, when my dad was, had been teased. and ill suddenly. And on Father's Day 2018 all of my siblings were there. I think it was the first and probably the only time we'll all be in the same room together. And yeah, I mean it was unfortunate circumstances but it was a great thing to happen that we were all in the same place and could share moments and memories.

And, yeah, I've always, I've got fun memories of that. And it's interesting, because even though you had more siblings than practically anyone I've ever met, obviously you had this sense of growing up as an only child, I would imagine. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Because it's you and your mum. Yeah. Very much me and my mum, and my mum worked late.

My mum worked for London Ambulance Service. And I... Was she quite strict your mum? Incredibly strict. Don't you think that's the kind of thing, Kyle, that you only appreciate when you're older? When you're younger, you think, oh, piss off. And then when you're older, you're like, oh, that's good because they teach you respects and manners. Yes, I think there's 80% that.

And there's 20% why wasn't I allowed to go to that boy's party? It doesn't matter that I don't know him. Yeah. Oh, no, these things never die. I've still got the Wham concert. God rest of soul, my mother, I will never forgive that. Yeah. Yeah.

So I wonder being an only child and being brought up by, as you say, a relatively strict mum. Yeah. What do you like? But very chill grandparents. Right. And you're spending a lot of time with them. A lot of time with them. And?

But as soon as I hear that key in the door, fun stops. You know, my sister and I used to play. Because my mum was so hot on manners and, you know, she'd put Shakespeare, she was an actress. Right. So, so theatrical. And she'd post quotes on the Shakespearean quotes. Instead of telling us, I'm pissed off with you. She'd post quote saying, this above all, she'd post like write them down.

Oh, right. Not on Instagram. No. She was really ahead of her time. And she'd say, this above all, to thine own self be true. And then act to blah, blah, blah. Oh, wow. It was like, just tell us you're being arseholes.

Like, we don't need this. Yeah. But I think my sister and I used to have this thing where my sister would sing from that whole note song, Man Eat It, she'd go, oh, here she comes. Watch out boy, she'll chew you up. Did you have a bit of that as well? My uncles, so my uncles were raised by my mum as well. Right.

Because my nan and granddad came here from Barbados and they were working. And my mum's, she had one brother down that was five years younger than her. and then another one that's maybe 10 years younger and then another one. So she raised like three boys and they obviously rebelled against my mum because one, you're not our mum and two, why so strict? And they turned out to be very naughty boys. And my mum obviously I feel maybe felt like she not failed but she's not failed but she's She didn't want you to go that way.

Yes, definitely, but she'd been so strict with them that they rebelled because there were three of them. But because there was one of me, she couldn't be overthrown. So I think she doubled down on the strictness rather than going, oh, I'll try a different option. And my dad was so chill that he was just sort of like, yeah, whatever your mom says. Right. So, yeah, I was, yeah, it was very strict. but I spent a lot of time with my grandparents. But I bet you were, were you quite well behaved?

Were you the sort of boy that other parents would say, oh, Kyle's coming around? He's such a nice boy. Yes, definitely. Oh, that's good to be one of those. I was always nice and polite. And my mum taught me that the most, the best thing you could be was helpful.

Right. And that always stuck with me. So there was a lot of that. I was, like, I wasn't naughty. I was just like, I was chat. I was very chatty. I always wanted to make people laugh. Did you?

So that was there from a really young age, that performing. Yeah, from about four. When I did my first nativity play, I was just like... Inkeeper? Inkeeper? Classic. Could you tell? I could.

You've got Inkeeper written all over you. You've got that slight... Me and Jim Howick. Bit of authority there. You could just see it. Yeah, from when I did that play and had my first line and I was like, oh, I can make people laugh by saying things. And I just loved that, but I wanted to do it all the time no matter of it. Is that remote control?

Yeah, look at this. It's a lawnmower. And there's a man having a lot of fun with it, isn't it? Wow. It's a remote control lawnmower, but it's one of the most impressive ones I've ever seen. Yeah, that was great. It looks like a Formula One car. Yeah.

I tell you what, his job is. I love it, thank you. Thanks. My daughter would kill me if I didn't ask for a photo. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Oh, that'd be amazing. Yeah. Oh, shit.

Do you want to take the... I literally have never done this before. That's all right. That's first time for everything. I can take it. Oh, thanks, really. I asked Viola Davis for a selfie in the airport. How did it go?

Does she say yes? Yeah, but she was for human. Oh. You're nice one. Thanks very much. Yeah, sure. Take it. Have a good day. Bye-bye. Does that happen?

That must happen quite a lot with you. And do you like it? I don't mind it. As long as I'm not on the phone or eating. Yeah. If I'm on the phone and people are hovering around me just a bit like, picture, I wish I could breathe fire at them. I tell you what the worst is, and I've been with high profile friends of mine,

is if, you know, and it happens where you might be having a marital dispute or, you know, or just something that you're trying, you know, friends aren't trying to get their kids in the car. Yes. It's those moments when you think, and I, get it because people are like well I might not get this moment again but you're like yeah but it couldn't be a worse moment yeah yeah I hear about that from like the ghost guys about really you know they'll be with their kids or trying to do something and then someone's like hey hey hey mate are you um well that's for Beckett that's always been his thing I think which I think's fair enough

he's like look I'm fair game yeah you see me and I'm walking along and providing it's not really inconvenient and whatever I'm not working or so he said it's fine but if I'm with my kids yeah they haven't sort of signed up to this. Sure. So I get that. Yeah. So yes, back to Young Kyle. Yeah.

I have to say I'm starting to like the sound of you. Would you describe yourself as a show off? Yes, but I knew when to be a show off. Because I spent so much time around adults, it was very much like, don't interrupt the adults when they're talking, but they are interested in you. So like choose your moments. Yeah. Which is why I found I think that I'm, I can read a room.

Well, I'd say that's my, my best quality is to be able to read a room. Bloody useful. Yeah, I think so. Very underrated unique selling point. It's true. That guy can really read a room. But yeah, that's... I'd be insulted if you'd give him the performance of your life.

like the government inspector and the Guardian said five stars he can really read a room. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's from like being surrounded by so many adults for a lot of the time. That's a, I find only children, some of my friends have got only kids and I do think they're kind of uniquely sophisticated in a way in that because they spend so much more time maybe with adults, they've got a slightly more mature, sophisticated take on the world in general. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

But I mean, I hated it when I was younger. Did you? Now, um, actually no, no, now I still hate it. Forget that. I still hate it. Now it's worse. Uh, yes. But it's not the same.

We can't share like, oh, remember that time when? you know like when you hear siblings do that I get quite jealous of that I know what you mean it's kind of I had a sister sadly no longer with us but she she was I always used to think her as like the fellow witness in my life so you know

you could have that shorthand and it was like actually when she died it felt like oh no there's no one else alive that speaks that language yeah yeah yeah you know what I mean it's a language isn't it you have with siblings and maybe with your siblings it's yeah it's those years that

it will just make it a slightly different relationship, won't it? Yeah, exactly. And that's why I'm so obsessed with the idea of friendship. Are you? Yeah, absolutely. I just love my friends so much. And like, I've got friends that... I'd say I've probably fallen out with, like, three people in my life.

Really? Yeah. And were those reasons... Did you give a little thought to that for those people? Yeah, definitely, yeah. Did you? Did you find it hard? Yeah, yeah, I do.

Do you confront or do you just let it drift away? I will let it drift away, but if I am questioned, then I will say everything that I'm feeling. But if no one asks me, I won't say anything. Right. Sometimes you need a call. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've got friends that I've had since, like, nursery. I've got friends that I've had from the first day of secondary school.

from primary school, from youth theatre. Oh, Kyle, sorry to interrupt, but this doesn't look good. Oh, cafe's closed. Oh, I thought it was a school of some side. There's another one. Well, let's go to the other one. You were keeping it open. Yeah, the other one, if you look at it,

it's just closer to Parliament Hill, but we can do a circuit and walk around. I can't offer this man of coffee or tea and not deliver. I mean, I'm not doing it. It's down that way. Well, these two are disappointed as well. Look at them. They're staring at it.

They had to get closer to make sure. Were you popular as a kid? Yeah, isish. Yeah. But the thing is, I mean, it was never like parties at my house. Not until about... Not with strict Jen. Strict Jen.

Not until about 14 years old, maybe. And I'd have something if it was my birthday. Right. Kyle, this is the other cafe, but this is making me nervous as well. Which one? This is the thing, yeah. Yeah, this is the Lido. Do you know the Lido?

No, I don't. I don't really know how to see it at all. This is where people like Alastair Campbell go swimming here every morning. Right. Great response. Right, okay. If that's the site you want to see. Is that a setting point?

That's why I should come. So go on, back to you when you were a kid. Yeah, so it was like, yeah, birthdays I'd have friends around. And I'd always have parties. I'd always have like, I'd have a pizza hut party. I think I had a pizza heart party like four years in a row. It loved it every time. Did I forget that when you go to the toilet, your friends put everything in your drink?

Yeah, of course I did. And then it happens again next year. Oh, my coat's got parmesan in it. But that's just what you do. On a birthday, you put everything on the table in your friend's drinks. Yeah. And, you know, you'd have the year of doing that and then forget that it's going to be you one day. Yeah.

And then 5th of March, here it comes. Chili flakes in the fanta. And were you academic? Not really. I was creative. I was like, so I was good at English and I was good at like creating stuff like maybe art, stuff like that. But you always knew, from a very young age, you knew you were going to perform in some way. Yes, I mean I didn't even really know what a job was.

Yeah. Like the fact that you have to have a job and make money and then that's how you live. But I knew, hi, but I knew that that's what I wanted to do. so like I had my heart set on that but I didn't know that that's like a job I just knew that I wanted to always be doing that I thought I'd be like an astronaut and then act on the side that would be a cool wouldn't that be a great slash slash job yeah I was like oh astronaut slash actor yeah fireman actor yeah that would I think astronaut anything I had Tim Peek on this podcast

And I just thought, it's really weird. Like it sort of makes you a slightly different human being having been to space. Yeah. And he said, oh yeah, it's interesting, he said, because... You've seen the world from a Beers Avivir. And he said, he said, it's weird because they're such a small club of us. But I think, oh, there's only a few of us that will ever experience that. Yeah.

Katie Perry. You know, you've totally ruined it for me now. I'm sorry, Tim. Your experience is not unique. Elon has killed it, Kedee Perry, Jeff Bezos's wife. Just imagine if Tim Peek had said that, just me, Jeff Bezos's wife.

That friend of Oprah Winfrey's. So you spent your earliest kind of foray into performing, I suppose, creatively was, you were an emcee, weren't you? Yeah, I, from. And when I joined, joined, when I went to school. And was this a school that Tinchie Strider went to?

Or is that a different school? Tinchisdre did that school. Who else? Germain Defoe. Jermaine DeFoe went to that school. Stephen Mulhern went to that school. Really? He doesn't remember it.

He's tried to reinvent himself. He's rebranding. I mentioned it. I did the celebrity catchphrase. And I mentioned that we went to the same school. And he was like, yes, that's right. In Stratford. And I was like, that's not in Stratford.

But he's... Let's look at this. Yeah, that's. It's got to be open. We're talking at the Lido Cafe from £5, Nutella, etc. We're talking crept. Oh, I see, we're talking crepes. Do you think we go, it's giving us an arrow?

Yeah. I can smell food. Tim Campbell. From The Apprentice? From The Apprentice. He still works for... Off of The Apprentice, yeah. He still works for Lord Allen Sugar.

Yeah. Big Shugs. Um, so we... It's terrible what happened with that fallout, wasn't it? wasn't it, with big chooks? Needless violence. So many young, promising lives lost with big chooks. I'd love to call him that.

Well, can I say, this is not Kyle's first rodeo when it comes to coining phrases, is it? Because you are responsible for something huge, A big cultural moment. That's true. Would you care to share with my listeners? In the Year of Our Lord 2022, for the Queen's Platinum Jubilee, I named it the Platy Jubes and everyone fucking lost it. Rightfully so.

Do you know what? I went on Saturday Kitchen on Saturday, on Saturday. I saw you've been on that, yeah. on a Thursday and I forgot to call it Sati Kitch on live TV and I'd been saying it all week. What do you call it Sati Kitch? Yeah. You forgot. I've been saying it all week and I didn't say it on the TV.

Idiot. Sadie Kitch. Yeah. Flattie Jews. Yeah. And so, and actually it's on your Wikipedia because someone has verified that you were the first, it was what was then Twitter, wasn't it? It was pre-X I think. with the first person to post and call it that.

Yeah. And what happened is? You just think, well, that's a funny name for it. Well, no, I've always, I mean, me and my friends all have always sort of abbreviated stuff. So to me, that was like, it was just like, yeah, that's what you'd call it. And I was going to bother saying platinum Jubilee. Like, even when I. Yes, they are, collect.

I mean, the most people would. But when I, when I used to like, when I used to get on the Jubilee line, I'd call it the Jube. But that was just, to me, it was just the jubes. So can you do something with my name? I'm Emily Dean. What are we going to go for? MED. MED is the root one.

Oh my God. Oh, that is so cruel. But it's too easy. What would we go? Emily Rebecca Dean. That's the middle name. You can mull it over. It's a tough one.

Herbs. Herbs? ERB. D, it is a D at the end of the day. Erds. Erds. Yeah, I'm with Erds. Walking the dog with Erds.

Me and Edds in Hampstead Heath. Would you be offended if I told you? I told you I don't think this will take off. Listen, I've got root one ideas too and I'm workshopping. Your KSB though, that's good. Yeah. That really works. And we're going to talk about this.

It's also, it's so brilliant because it's the name of your brilliant improv show. the initials isn't it yeah cool story bro right oh are we going in that feels like the back of this this i think it feels like if you walk through this door we'll be working there as soon as you walk in we have to serve someone yeah but you're a celebrity so you can get away with it no we can't no i think it it's yeah yeah yeah yeah we're in the right place you use the cloak of celebrity you'll get away with it hello i really hope you love part one of this week's walking the dog if you want to hear the second part of our chat it'll be out on thursday so whatever you do don't and remember to subscribe so you can join us on our walks every week.