Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Kiell Smith-Bynoe (Part Two)

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

In part two of Emily and Ray’s walk with the wonderful Kiell Smith-Bynoe, the conversation continues with more laughs, stories and brilliant energy from the man who coined the term "Platty Joobs".If you haven’t already, do catch up on part one. And if you want to see Kiell live, his improv comedy show Kool Story Bro is touring the UK, so be sure to book your tickets now at https://koolstorybro.co.uk.Follow Emily:Instagram X Walking The Dog is produced by Will NicholsMusic: Rich JarmanArtwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to part two of Walking the Dog with the wonderful Kyle Smithbino. And if you want to catch Kyle's live comedy improv show Cool Storybro, do book your tickets now at coolstorybro.com.uk. Really hope you enjoy part two of our walk and do give us a like and a follow so you can catch us every week. Here's Kyle and Rewe. Oh, I'd forgotten I had a dog. Don't thought off in the cake. Oh, let's sit down on this bench.

We'll sit down for five minutes. No, it's fine. We need a break. We deserve a break. We've been through so much this morning. So, oh this is nice, Kyle. Lovely. When I say nice, it's a little cold.

It's not ideal. I'll put you on my knee, Ray. Raymond, oh. So, no, I didn't just scrape you like that. No, I thought I dropped some. No, you didn't. So. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Emceeing was sort of, that was your first, that was your thing originally, wasn't it? It was my thing, yeah. Well, everyone, that's why I mentioned school because you sort of had to. Oh yeah. To be cool in school. You had to do something. You had to either play football, MC or fight.

Oh, I would have fought. 100%. Me, I would have batted them all. 100% fight. Were you fighting in school? No. Where did you go to school? I went to school in North London. It wasn't the school where there was much fighting. It was a girl's school. I went to a boy school. Oh, did you? I actually can't imagine going to a mixed secondary school. I

can't either. I would have had to like brush my hair every day. So would I. I would have found that really stressful. Yeah. It was bad enough after school. Yeah. Like having to do the makeup in the toilets and things. And like the humiliation of getting things wrong and you know I would have hated that. What do you mean getting things wrong? Well, just, you know, in class? Like, I think I was so shy of boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know how you sometimes get humiliated by the teachers? Yeah. Have to stand in the corner or... Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. That would have been of humiliation too far. Yeah, I get you. So that emceeing kind of, it took off for you, didn't it? Yeah, so that was like my first sort of performing in a way because we did that in the playground.

And you became quite famous, didn't you? We did all right. What was your name again? Clothes frames. I was a... Satty Kitchen. Hood... I was a hood celeb, I'd say, in a very small borough.

Yeah. And then we had a tune called... Junior Spech, which in itself is an abbreviation. Of Junior Special, which is what the kids' meal was called in Southern Fried Chicken. And, yeah, Junior Special just took off. And that infuriated me. Why? Because we're serious emcees.

And then we made this joke track for each other just to like to see if each other would find it funny. And it took off. And everyone was like, oh yeah, the guys from Junior Spears. I'm like, listen to the other stuff. No, we don't want to. And wasn't your uncle? He was quite well known.

was quite well known wasn't he? My uncle was a drama and bass, MC Fats. It's it MC Fats? MC Fats, singing Fats. Yeah. And he had a lot of success with drum and bass and going around the world and performing and made a lot of tracks with Goldie and I don't know much about Drum and Bass. But I just know what he's done.

And did he die? He died in 2023. So you lost your dad and you lost your uncle and then you lost your mum not long ago. That's my mum two months ago, yeah. I'm so sorry. I feel like it's been quite a tough few years in some ways. I mean, yeah, but I've always, I mean, I had, I was born with three grandparents. Yeah.

And they all went at what I assume was a, the rest of. right time you know my granddad my dad's dad died at 99 right and that was a year before my dad and my dad died at 81 and then yeah my nan and granddad like 20 2013 and then 2005 my granddad died and then my nan died in 2013 and that was like my biggest loss because I was really close to my dad yeah I was a proper nanny's boy and so that was hard and that was probably still the hardest one even though like you know the bond you have with your mum is very special but my mum my mum was diagnosed with dementia in 2032 so I was looking after her from from when I moved home in 2022 until when she died

early 2026 two months ago and I was sort of losing her for a long time yeah so that the loss wasn't as great. I mean, it's still difficult some days, most days. And it's still like when it actually happens, it's a lot to process. Yeah. But I had been processing for almost four years. Yeah, yeah.

And sort of every month there was a new thing that she wasn't able to do. Or like something that she'd lost, whether it was coordination in making a cup of tea or even like things that you wouldn't even think about like the television if a bell rang on the TV she wouldn't know if it was the front door or if it was on the television and that's something that's a dementia related thing just the confusion disorientation yeah yeah yeah so her like getting up to answer the door when there's just been a knock on the door on the TV or something

like that where I'm like oh that's another thing I'm going to have to start thinking about and then I was like right I need to get something on the door because we already had a ring doorbell but I was like if she goes to open the door and doesn't see anyone and maybe she walks out to see if someone's been there and then closes the door behind her and those sort of thing so I was starting to think about that sort of thing and that was just in November and was she aware of you know for example if you were on TV or she's watching ghosts or something. Did that give her pleasure, do you think? Was there any... Oh yeah, definitely. She was really proud of that. That's so nice, isn't it?

She loved ghosts. She loved Lolly. More than me, I'd say. She's watching Ghost for Lolly. You know, Kyle, all of us are watching ghosts for Lolly. You just have to accept that. You're the lovely bonus. Oh, it's nice, isn't it? Your son? Yeah, my mum was really proud of ghosts. and Taskmaster, but Taskmaster's the first time she heard me swear. And what did she say? Does she not like it? No, she didn't like it. What does she say? And I said I was acting. Did she believe it? Did you buy it? I don't think so.

What did she say? Don't swear. Did you don't need to do that? Other people can do that. You don't need to do that. Yes, Mom, I'll get other people to swear for me. Yeah, that was the first time. She never heard me. I suppose you're still relatively young to have lost both parents, really. And that is just a different thing, especially when you're, because I lost my sister and I lost my parents, so it did it the other way around. But it was really weird.

When the last one went, I suppose, it's just that thing of, oh, it's just me then. Do you know what I mean? Like those links with your past go over it. And it's just an interesting thing, isn't it? Because it just makes you, certainly gave me an awareness of just that passing, time and I definitely did think oh we just we get our time and we really do have to make the most of it kind of thing it also makes you think about well it made me think about what's important yeah yeah and there's so many things that aren't important like worth stressing about um which I

learned in that time especially as like when my mum was in hospital towards the end and I was like and you've got people being like do want to come on Sunday break or just I think you'll find its cause. Sunny Bee? Sunny Be light. Sunny Bee is great. I think, yeah, no, not necessarily just that, but like... It's things you worry and stress about, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah. I think that's not important. It's like, yeah, just turn up and do it. I think also that people pleasing is interesting because, you know, you are very aware of like your life, you still think about those people. still think about those people, but your life goes on. You're not thinking about them 24-7. And then you start thinking of yourself and you think, all that time I devoted to worrying that someone didn't like me setting a boundary with them.

And you think, they won't think about me. Five years after, you know, maybe even five months after I've gone, maybe five days. So why am I getting myself in knots trying to please them? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's made me think a lot about legacy. Yeah. Because my dad had that.

Oh, that's gone. Oh, it's windy. Thank you. My dad definitely had a legacy in 12 children. I can't even think, I can't remember how many grandchildren. But my mom only had me, really, has a legacy. And also, like, all of the accolades she had from dancing, from her dancing days. Which some people were really surprised by.

and learnt about at the funeral and saw all the pictures. I don't know if you were a dancer. So she's got like, I'd say slightly less of a legacy than my dad. And not less important, but just less people to sort of spread that. Less people, but then look at the person she has got. Yeah, but then it also feels like I've got quite a responsibility. Yeah. Yeah.

To, do you know, I don't feel that anymore with my family. I just think, look, you're gone, you get what you get. Yeah. I can't. But I know what you mean. It is still that thing of, you're the kind of only living representative of that union. Yes, definitely. And I'm also the only one with my surname.

I'm the only one with Bino. I mean, Smith, there's probably a few more. But also with that kind of double barrel surname, particular one. But the idea that there's no more. or I don't know any other binos from my family. And that's Fitzburn's name, is it? No, that's my mom's bino. And Fitzgern was...

Smith. I love Fitzburn. Maybe that if we get another dog way, we'll call him that. Would you like, in that? Fitzburn. So, we need to hurry up and get you famous. Because you went to drama school,

and it was Theatre Royal Stratford East you went to. But you really, I feel like, And this will lead us on to your fabulous project at the moment. Because I feel like improv was something you really, you kind of specialised in when you were learning acting, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So I went to youth theatre or Stratfany's youth theatre,

which their teachings and practices were all improv based. Following on from the teachers of Joan Littlewood. And I learnt to, we were devising, constantly and we'd put on new writing, well, not writing, and literally devise it and then put it on. And yeah, it was all very improv-based. It was hardly any text work. And then I went to East 15 Drama School

and that was very improv-based, like hugely improv-based. But when I was at Theatre Royal Stratford East, I auditioned for a show, excuse me, they had a show called Blaggers in the late 90s, early 2000s, which was a predominantly, prominently black comedy performers doing short improv games. It was sort of like an alternative who's known is it anyway. And I auditioned for the junior version of that show, Junior Blaggers,

and didn't get a part. And I was devastated, but I still went to the show, still went and watched it. And I was watching it the whole time going, I could do this, I could do it better than that. And they held auditions again and I went back and then I got a part in the cast. and I did my first live improv show in front of a paying audience at the age of 14. Really? I jongolets.

So from then I was just like, I love this so much. And that's all I wanted to do really. Well, not all I wanted to do, but like I loved it so much, I wanted to do it constantly. And then in 2008, one of the guys that I met through theatre royal and through doing Blaggers started his own show, their own show called Acting Up. Ashley and TJ created Actin' Up and then I did that from 2008 to 2016 and that improv I went to drama school when I was a kid I was a child actor and I went to place called Anna Schurz which was very Anna's thing was improv and as a result it's that grounding I think it gives you particularly as a

kid that there was a reason that a lot of the time casting directors would go there for Grange hill or because those kids were so much more this was in my day it was like they were so much more naturalistic. Every other kid was a stage school. They'd gone to those more traditional stage schools. And suddenly there were these kids and they were like, oh, they'd just speak like normal kids in the playground.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wonder if that improvisation, learning it like you did at such a young age, you know, it's interesting to think how that's probably informed a lot of your, the way you perform now. I think so, yeah. Because I would describe you as very nuanced, naturalistic actor.

That's very nice of it to say. Yeah, I think it is nice, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. You're not kind of like, hello, darling. You know those theatre actors who haven't learned to kind of amend their performance with it? Yeah. From the old school. Do you know what I mean the old days?

I think I'm always looking for a different way to do something. I'm always thinking like, what's the first way in and then how can I make what I want to do different? Um, and sometimes I haven't learned the script well enough to do that. But most of the time, I will find something that makes it my own. And that's also what I tried to do with self-tapes as well. No, nobody else is going to do it like this, so I'll try that. And when you've had these huge shows that you've been in, so like Stafflet's Flats, that was before Ghosts, wasn't it?

That was pretty ghost, yeah, that was 2018. And did you read, Jamie Stom this? We love Jamie. Jamie's great. liked Ray, I think, a lot. Would you, did you read for Jamie? Or was that a kind of nerve-wracking thing? Did you think you'd got that or?

No, I met Jamie at a party in 2016. And then he had seen a thing that I did called Hood Documentary, which was a YouTube show, and then got picked up by BBC. And we got paid about 25 pounds each to do this whole series. We did, there were a, we did, there There were two YouTube versions and then there was eight sort of 15 minute episodes on BBC. Yeah.

And Jamie had seen that and he'd mentioned that to me and I'd seen Stath, the Blap of Stath, which came out in 2013. Because that started as like a comedy black, didn't it? Yeah. Should we get moving because it's getting cold? Yeah, sure. Let's move. And then I told him how much I loved that.

He told me how much he loved Hood documentary. It was a lovely evening. And then about a year later, audition came in for a part and stuff. So I was like, oh, incredible. And it was a part for a series regular, which I'd never been before. So I really worked on it. And I mean, like, I was in Edinburgh at the time when the audition came through and I was doing London Hughes. I was doing a show with London Hughes up there.

And I was just like, with that script constantly, just trying to work out the funniest way to do it. best way to do it that someone else wouldn't have thought of. I did my audition. I didn't hear anything for ages and then I got asked to do a recall but I was still in Edinburgh and I was like I'd have to miss the show and London was paying me to be up there to be part of her show and my agent was like it's looking unlikely but we'll see what we can do and then she said oh you can do it on Skype and this wasn't really a thing back then to do like online auditions. So I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I guess I'll download Skype.

And I did the Skype audition, but as I was doing it, I didn't, because I'd never done it before, I didn't know where to look, I didn't know if I'm looking like, am I looking in the camera? Am I looking at the laptop? You didn't know how to filter your screen. Yeah, I didn't know what I was doing. And I, there was also a point where Jamie, just kept improvising after the end of the take, but I hadn't realized.

So I'd stopped, I'd turned my actor off by then. And I just thought, oh, that was a disaster. He was going a bit Daniel DeLewis on your ass. I didn't see that coming, Jamie. And I thought, I've ruined it. And I didn't hear anything for maybe three weeks. Right. And then I remember my agent saying,

saying it was between me and one other person. Oh. And it was probably the most nervous I'd ever been in my life. And the nerves weren't like, oh, I'm about to go on the stage. The nerves were just like, someone is just washing my tape and someone else's audition, like, back to back. And I'm there just wishing that I could do something different about the thing that I've already filmed in the past.

And anyway, fast forward, I'm on set. And yeah, we film series one and I, like, still to this day, I think it's the funniest thing that I've done. And I loved it. I loved, like, every moment of staff. Yeah. Like, one and two were incredible. And then there was a big break and it felt like it wasn't going to happen again. And then Jamie called me and said that they were doing three.

And then three was just like, three was a bit more stressful. Yeah. because Jamie hadn't finished writing it when we started filming. Yeah. So we were still like, we were still unsure of like what episode five and six were going to be as we were filming in the show. But then thankfully, Ellie White got COVID and it shut down the production for like a week, 10 days. And then Jamie managed to catch up. And that second half of series three is the best job I've ever.

ever done. Yeah. And like yeah, it would take a lot to be that. And I've done some great jobs and like Ghost is great and I did a film two years ago that comes out this year called Wicca and that was incredible. That was like really great experience and they were all great experiences but series three cannot be beaten. Yeah it's a really special show. Yeah. And it's also it's that thing, you know, when we were joking earlier and I mean, I'm going to call it joking when you referred to mine as Route 1 when we were coming up with names. Yeah, but mine wasn't, my matter, to be honest. No.

But what I love about the way Jamie Dimitri works and, you know, the way that whole ensemble craft work in that is that it's never what I call, my dad used to have a thing where He'd say it's a bit first thought. Right. The idea being that your first thought, no, should be at least your third or your fourth. Sure, yeah. You know, like when you're going to try and put something funny on social media or never go with your first thought. Right.

People say, yeah, just go with the first thing that comes to your head. And it's like, no, sometimes it's because it's more sophisticated, you know. I do want to talk about ghosts because, like many people, I'm utterly obsessed with that show. and was bereft when it ended. Yeah, same. The good... How am I going to pay for this garden? And obviously, that show, I mean, did you realise

it was going to take off in the way that it did? Because obviously it's the horrible histories team, and you know that how brilliant they are. It's a great concept for a show. But I guess even you couldn't have predicted... No, not at all. Really? No, I mean, I read the script and it was the first time since staff, I think, that I'd read a script and gone, I have to have this part.

Really? Yeah. And it was another, like, case of me really making sure I knew the script back to front and so that I could play with it and get in the room and just do something fun. And, yeah, I was like, I have to have this. And I got the part and I was like, so happy. But I didn't know, I knew it was going to be BBC One. So that was quite big anyway, just because it was BBC One. But the idea of it being like five series and then being like one of the most watch comedies on UK TV.

Yeah. And then having like Christmas special with seven million viewers and that sort of stuff. I was like, that would have never come into my head. And then it was happening. And I was like, this is amazing. It's open so many doors for me as well. And just like, well, getting things made and as you say, getting meetings. Yes. However, everyone in Ghost should have, if they want it, should have their own show, should be leads in...

And I don't know what it is. I don't know why Lolly hasn't got her own show. Yeah. Why, I mean, Katie hasn't got her own show now. And I think they're in production. Oh, yeah. That's Katie Wicks, isn't it? Yeah. But everything's taken so long and I feel like, you know, it's what it is, and that's not, this is not an opinion. This is like based on numbers. It's the most successful British comedy in a very long time. And I feel like as much as that has opened doors in terms of meetings and things in development, I'm like, when are things actually going to happen? Development is like...

Do you think also it also is to do with the fact that, you know, legacy media, which that is, getting things made through channels, increasingly does seem like a very slow way of doing things. So slow. Because you can essentially get your own content up there in seconds. Yeah. It suddenly feels like, well, it's going to take five years and it may not happen. Yeah.

Why would I put myself through that? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And as you say, that cast, there was something very special about the chemistry, But also what I loved about that show, it's very unusual. Firstly, is that it was hilariously funny without being cruel. Yes. Do you know what I mean? I never watched that and felt, oh, that's funny.

And the price I've had to pay for this is feeling a bit mean. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we all know that kind of comedy. Yeah, yeah. Whereas I thought, well, this is an example of something that's so hilarious, but there's a warmth to it and a kind of generosity of spirit to it. And I also thought what was notable about that show is that it felt like there were no sort of egos in terms of what I'm saying you were like Arsenal. It was a team of individually brilliant players rather than one huge signing with a massive ego.

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were all so brilliant in your different ways. Yeah. And it really feels like that. I mean, I know every show says this, but I really really. genuinely believe that we are a family and like I really like I really want to believe that yeah yeah and we like I mean it's difficult with everyone's schedules but we try and see each other outside of filming and have dinners and we

go to each other's events and stuff my me and Martha went to Simon Farnaby's screening for the magic faraway tree on Sunday he's he's got blown up a bit oh yeah because he wrote Paddington yeah big box Farnaby I said don't worry about him Don't lose any sleep about him. He's fine. You get Big Barks Farnaby on the podcast. I'm going to make him buy the hot chocolates. He's got a...

I don't know what he's got. Has he got a dog? Yeah. I'm going to make Big Barks Farnaby and I'm going to call him that. I want to say he's got a Dalmatian, but I... Are you joking? I think I've made that up because I just saw one. He lives not far from here.

Yeah. And he knows... Should we just go knock for him? He's at work. BBF? Yeah. That's what we call him. I'm getting there.

You are. Am I getting there? Keep that in. That shows me quite a good life. That makes me look quite funny. So, yes, he's done Paddington, hasn't he? Yeah. Very silver things.

Yeah, Wonka. I didn't say anything. It's just something inherently comical about you suddenly, turning round to me a very respectable middle-aged woman and saying, Wonka. Why did you say, I didn't say anything? I was listening. We were listening.

I feel set up. Kyle, I was minding my own business. I'm sorry, the listeners can hear that. You took it upon yourself to turn around to me. He looked right at me, guys, and he went, Wonka. We were listing things that Simon's done. Let's say that that's what we were doing, shall we? Paddington, wonka.

Nice try. If you didn't want to do this, you shouldn't have come on in the first place. I won't be smoking to like that. Right. So, ghost, yeah, thank you for gifting us that. Because it's funny now, I can't imagine. Can you imagine anyone else playing Mike?

I hate anyone else. Well, I mean, you know, they've got about 11 different versions of it now. So there are... We'll go around there here. Yeah. Yes, because it's in the US. It's in the US. Who makes money?

It's in front. How does he make money out of that? Oh, deffer. It's going straight to him and then he decides what he's going to pay the others. There's a, what's it called, German version? There's an Australian version. Oh. Yeah.

I tried watching the US, and I'm sure it's really good, but I just can't. I'm so loyal to you guys. Thank you. Right, I'm going to take a nice picture of you as well. This is good lighting for you. It looks like we've just come back from the hospital. A new edition. Imagine if she came back with this.

You're terrifying. Thank you for that, Kyle. I'm worried about your phone not having a case. Oh, are you? Yeah, you're quite, I think you're quite, you're very observant, aren't you? Well, I mean, you're so outdoors. Oh, yeah.

Anything could happen. I'm going to get to put a case on it because of you, Kyle. Okay, good. You're quite observant though, because some famous people aren't so observant about other people. Oh yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, well I'm interested. I'm interested in people.

Yeah but you haven't lost your curiosity then. No, not all. That's one of my main things. I think also maybe it helps that you're still in touch with all your OGs, you know? Yeah, yeah. And let me tell you, they don't give a shit about what I've been up to. Not at all. Have you ever had a moment when you had to watch yourself, you had to catch yourself, early doors, let's say.

You know when you get a first taste and it's just that thing that you sometimes don't even notice a lack of awareness where you maybe hand someone a water bottle and don't thank them or. Have you ever had a word with yourself? Oh, that's a little bit like a road. I can't say I have because I'm just like, I mean, you might overhear me having a moan about catering. Right. But I just think everyone here is working to the best of their ability. There's no way that you as a caterer are working to the best of your ability and this is what you've produced. So let's all be on the same page here.

Yeah. So I feel quite strongly about food on set. Well, I suppose that's, you've got to do your job. Yes. And actually, I think in that situation, you don't have a choice. Yes. Because you're on set and you can't say, oh, I'm going to go off to eat something healthy or that's going to release energy slowly.

Yeah. But you can't really explain that to your friends. who just did like a 14-hour construction day. Yes, that's true. They don't care. But trying to be like, yeah, I'm on set so I couldn't possibly get my own food because I'm at West Horsley Place

and nowhere delivers here. But, yeah, I think like sometimes it's just like... Did Bambergascoe own that? He did, yeah. Isn't that fascinating? I read that. I couldn't believe. He had a...

He was big. Big bucks van. Yeah. That's good. Am I getting better? Yeah. Oh, I'm going to come and work for you, helping you come up with these. All day.

What have you got today, Emily? Working for KSB, just see, you know, my usual job. Imagine that's literally my job. And you can just call me any time day or night. Okay. I mean, it doesn't pay well. I'm just letting you know that in advance. That's all right.

Do you know what I got for coming up with plenty of Jews? What? A gift card from Greg's. Why did you get that? And it took them about a year to send me that. Why did they send you the gift card? Because they had used it. Because when brands started to use it, I was replying to their tweet saying, 50 pound.

Every brand that used it, I replied. 50 pound, that'll be 50 pound. Ribina, that's 50 pound. I'm glad that Greg's delivered. Yes, they did, but it took them way too long. I want to talk about your brilliant improv show. Thank you. Cool Story Bro.

Yes. And this has become, I feel it's like your baby this. It is my baby. And it's such a genius idea. It's essentially you and your troop. Yeah. You rely on the audience members to come up with these situations for you. Yeah.

And it's hugely successful. And this is your on toy. on tour with it at the moment or you're... No, we start on the 1st of May. So we did three nights in Soho this weekend just gone. Yeah. And then we start the UK tour 1st of May for 11 dates in May. Oh, I'm definitely going to come along to that.

I love it. You're going to come to the Fairham show? I really... Well, it's so... It's a little bit of me. Nobody else is. We're not selling well in Fairham. There's always one though, isn't that?

Yeah. Yeah. No, I think Fairham's all right, but Swind Oh gosh. But we'll get there. And when you're doing those? Is that Ruby Wax? Oh, is it? Yes, it is. You're right. Well spotted, Kyle. Because she's, I'm good friends with her daughters.

Yes. And they are what I think are the funniest people in the whole wide world. Are they? They are so funny. Siblings, they're called. Oh, are they comedians? Yeah. Ah.

They're a double act. What's her husband? Ed? Yeah. Ed by, yeah. Yeah. I did murder they hope with him. Oh, that's a shame we didn't see.

I'm sure she would have loved to have spoken to you. How well observed? I didn't know she lived around here. Doesn't everyone live around here? Yeah, pretty much. I just got... I mean, not me. No, but I sort of grew up in this manner, I suppose.

Right. So I just thought, well, there's no point leaving. I seem to have hit all the lottery and... Yeah, of course. terms of area. Yeah. But then it is quite, it does have that thing where you can bump into a lot of people. Yeah.

And. So do you really know your way around this place? Yeah, kind of. Because it seems like, you know where you're going. I've been in maybe like five times in my life, but I could not tell you like even what side I'm on. Have you got a good sense of direction? Yeah, I think so. We're walking back towards where we came from, right?

Yeah. Yeah. We're going back now, but we've just come through a weird route. However, I'm quite a drama queen. If I, if I walk into a, if I'm in a shopping centre and I walk into a shop and I have a little walk around and come out, I do not know which direction I came from. Oh, really? Yeah.

I tell you where I get lost. What's it called? Westfield. I can't, I can't do it. I actually find it so overwhelming, like the noise and. It is a lot. That's why you've got to go on a Tuesday afternoon. Really?

Yeah. Which one do you go to, Stratford? I go Stratford, yeah. I prefer Stratford. Right. I prefer like White City because I'm less likely to bump into people from school. But I'm going to go. When you're buying pants or whatever, you don't.

I prefer Stratford. Right. Wongers. In my humble experience. Understood. Few of wonkers. So, Cool Story, Bro, I was going to ask you about this. Do you ever get into that situation where, because you know, you ask them, you get the stories from the audience.

And it is genuine, isn't it? It's not like it's all fixed or anything. No, no, never. It's proper improv. Yeah. What happens, though, Kyle, when someone says something and you have a very good instinct, comedy instinct. So you might think, this is funny, but it's quite dark, or something like you, can laugh at this because it's a funny story about a woman, a man being a bit creepy with you,

I don't feel comfortable. Yes. So just things like that. There's always an angle. Yeah, right. So you go in somewhere else? Yes. Got it.

So you can go in from the angle of the storyteller or from the person that the story's about or just a tiny little character in the story that was mentioned fleetingly. But we make that the main character. There's always a way. that we can I mean we've had some people really over share audience members and special guests and let's go this way yeah and we've we've always managed to do something we've not had to stop a story yet really yeah and also if it's awkward you we can just say it is yeah because the whole audience is feeling

it. Yeah. So we can just mention that and and we had some some great special guests over the past weekend. We had Kyra Gray, then Eddie Caddy, then Ed Gamble. And we had some very unexceptional stories from the audience members, but they managed to like find the fun in it and we managed to work out how we're going to which angle we're going to take to get into the story and make it fun. Yes, you're right, because that's part of the fun in a way. Yeah, yeah. Challenge, isn't it? Yeah. Rayway. So, cool story, bro. I'm definitely going to come and see that and I really urge everyone to because... Yes, especially Swindon.

We really come to Swindon. I'm going to go to Swindon and I don't even live in Swindon. I've never even been there. I don't really know where Swindon is. Isn't it Bristol? Do you know where Swindon is? Yeah, it's a Reading way, isn't it? Oh, is it? That's not far from us. Oh. Hello. Is that like your dog, Kyle? Is it a cockapoo? Is it a cockapoo? Cockapoo, that is your dog?

Yeah. You said a little bit. It's exactly the same dog. You don't know what you're dealing with. Have you got a dog? Are you lying? I'm calling your girlfriend. You'll never be able to prove it. Are you a nice boyfriend? I bet you are. Yeah. Yeah, I am.

Do you do the work? I do the work, yes. At the moment, she's yesterday. she asked me about flooring for her shed. And I was like, oh, I'm not that kind of boyfriend. It's getting hard in here. Hello, I don't know about flooring. Yeah, now I have to be that kind of boyfriend. But do you think it's interesting I'm just thinking about,

you know, you were speaking very honestly about your dad and I identified a bit with that because my dad, put it this way. He had away with the ladies. You know what I mean? He was very charismatic, flotacious, you know. I was always, I suppose, aware of his eyes lighting up when a beautiful woman walked in the room.

Yeah, it's understood. And I just think it's made me a little, like I've never had an affair. Ah! I am a drama queen, though. I'm a little... I don't like to be judgmental of people that are more fluid about all this sort of stuff. But it's made me a little more aware of the consequences, I suppose. or kids and stuff like that.

Has that impacted you, do you think? And maybe you feel a bit more like driven towards commitment and that kind of stuff? Maybe subconsciously. Yeah. I don't think I've really stopped and thought about it. I've always been kind of a relationship guy.

Yeah. No, that's not true actually. There've been moments where there's been... You had a use? Yeah, I've had seasons. What are you, Doctor? Tengabana? That was your autumn winter? Busy.

Autumn winter 22. Busy. I've had seasons. That was a good season for you. But that feels appropriate because that sort of young man behaviour, I think that sort of that kind of thing that it's just best to get it out of your system before you get to like 45 or something. Ideally a bit earlier than that. I was going to say you're still a way off that. Yeah, you don't want to be that guy, do you?

No. And I've done it like in my teens and stuff. Is that someone in the water? Oh, let's have a look, Kyle. It's so cold, it's so cold just in the air, let alone in this. So someone is open water swimming. They look to have, have they got pink hair or a swimming cap? I think they're cold.

No, that is a swimming cat, yeah. You're allowed to swim out. It does say no swimming. Oh, let's have it. Oh, don't swim from the back. Thanks. Oh, I understand. I know friends who've done, it's a very, I'll call it a very hamster thing to do. Right, yeah.

Is this, is it called open water swimming and it's meant to be very healthy? What if it gets in your mouth? Yeah, not for me that. Yeah, bloody cold as well. Oh yeah. That's what I'm saying, it's just cold like just stood here in fully closed. I know. So that for me would be a no, but thank you for the opportunity.

I know what I want to know about you. Yeah, anything. You seem quite a sort of good-natured person. I can't imagine you really losing your temper. I don't know. I think I inherited my dad's chill. Is he quite chill? So chill.

Was he, I'm sorry. Yeah, completely. And my mum definitely was not. And I think I very, at very early age, I looked at the two of them, I thought, I want to be more like, that one in terms of temperature. Sort of don't sweat the small stuff. Yeah. Whereas my mum was quite stressed quite a lot of the time.

I guess not outwardly, but there was a constant inner, right that shouldn't be there, that's meant to be to. I'm not really stressing about like, oh I forgot to be, not like frantic, but I guess more, but I guess more, My mum was always stuck by the rules. And I guess that's why I have a problem with authority now. Do you? Oh, big time.

But only in a way that's like... So what winds you up then in terms of authority? Like when someone says like, oh you can't like... No, that won't be possible. And it's like, well, we could, we could make that happen. It would just be easy if it's like, sorry, you have to go around there. It's like, well, the door's here. So I could just go in the door.

And I understand we've come the wrong way, but we've found out at the last minute, let's just, let's not worry about the one-way system. Yes, I get that. Sure. Sometimes it's a highway code. Well, it's the same thing that the thing that I have low tolerance for, and that's why I work with Will, because he's the opposite of this, is that I call it I sent an email.

Right. And you would never do that. Like some people, when you're working together collaboratively, it's like, oh, well, I asked them, I never heard back or something. As opposed to saying, I've taken this task and I'm going to see it through until it's done. Yes, please. This is what we want in our lives. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? It's the same thing. It's sort of just accepting no or something without thinking, oh, maybe I'll try this way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that flexibility that you like then? I like people to be solutions-based rather than problems-based. We love solutions-based, Will. SBW.

Loosh! Lush for short. I can't stop doing it now. It's addictive, isn't it? What am I going to do? I'm going to really miss you, Kyle. We can do this again. Is that sound a bit weird?

No, not at all. I would say you're very charismatic. Thank you. Do you like that? Yeah, I do. Okay. Yes, I do. How do you feel about compliments?

I could take it. Yes, I think you can. Yeah. Some people are desperately awkward some British people, but you're not. Yes. I don't see myself as that British in that way. Really? Just because I grew up in a Caribbean household that was,

I mean, my granddad made sure the temperature felt like we were in the Caribbean at all times. I love your granddad. And the sort of vibe was just very much like. Look at this guy. Oh, look that. Oh look at this little palm. Can they say hello? What's the poem called?

Yes Shih Tzu. Gigi. That's nice. That's nice. Gigi and Raymond. Gigi. Lovely to meet you, Shiji. Yeah, take out.

Don't you think, looking at Jiji, the way she walks, she's like something out of the Aresca cats, like Disney dog. Don't you think? She's got such personality. Look at the little legs. Raymond doesn't even miss her. No. He likes you, Kyle.

He feels safe with you. Ray! Come on. So, yeah, so you were saying, you don't feel 100% British. Yeah, only because I, I guess I sort of, yeah, both my grandparents I spent most of my time with were born and raised in Barbados and I only came as adults to the UK. So everything was very, and I assumed quite a lot of first generation. People of that age that came really made their home felt like you were stepping back into whatever country it was that they originated from. Yes.

I know that that's definitely true of Greek culture. And yeah, I sort of, when people say like, oh, that's very British, it's things that I've learnt as an adult. Like even things like the pub, I sort of learnt about that at drama school. I just thought that was a thing that they did on East End it. I don't realise that it was like a real, people like, yep, pub. And I was like, what? And people saying, which never happens, I'm just going to go outside for some air. When has anyone ever said that in real life?

Yes, those British, I know exactly what you mean. We need to say before I love you and leave you, there is some very exciting news for Ghost fans like me. Yes. Because you recently announced there's going to be a film. Ghost da movie. And are you doing that at the moment? We're shooting at currently.

Wow. I was meant to be there today. I said, I've got stuff to do. Oh my god, I feel so honoured. Are you joking? I did have a day off today. But I'm back into mine. I wish that were true. It can be true next time.

But yeah, we're doing it at the moment and it's very exciting. It's weird being back, especially when you said goodbye to a place. And then fast forward three years and you're back there. Especially when you thought, that was it. You're like, I'll never see this place again. And then it's like, right, your call time is 7 a.m. But yeah, it's really nice. I think the film will be great.

It's exciting. It's the same. Is it everyone? Are you allowed to say? It's everyone, yeah. All our faith. Yeah. It's the same ghost that you know and love.

Who you have to pretend not to see. Not to acknowledge. I forgot about that on my first day back. I was like, oh yeah. Cut. You've got the hold of the strong of everyone. Can you tell me. more people that. Tell BAFTA that. I really... Hello Warden. Oh I think the

warden was quite excited to see it was you. I think you get a really nice response from people, don't you? Yeah. People are genuinely quite nice. Don't you think? Yeah. I think it's because also the kind of work that you do, like I say, it's not, um, the There's no kind of cruelty or meanness to your comedy, I don't think, you know. No. What I'm saying, Kyle, is you're a bit of a national treasure. Already. Yeah, I think it is.

Like Bruce Forthais. You know, Kayas Rapino, Bruce Forsyth. We're getting to the car park now. Kyle's going to see how dirty my car is, but I like to think that's aristocrats have dirty cars. You know how posh people always have dirty cars? It's me pretending to be an aristocrat. So don't be shocked by the mud and the dirt. Sure.

And the makeup stains and what have you. I've loved today. Have you enjoyed a long walk? Yeah, I really have. Have you? Yeah. Was it better than you hoped or worse than you hoped? It was... Why can't it be exactly as I hoped?

Because there's no drama in that. Oh, sorry. That's a good car. Maybe I'll get a space age one. What is that? I've seen that. It's a fonder, but it looks... It looks a bit black mirror.

Yeah. It looks like it could be driving itself. But I'm... No, I've really enjoyed it. Yeah, I have as well. Yeah. I haven't even minded that the sun wasn't out. I think we might have to make you our friend

and you have no choice. Yeah. And we'd like to, Ray and I would like to come and meet your girlfriend. Yeah. And the dog. Yeah, great. Okay, let's do a date. Let's see if they get on.

Would you say goodbye to Raymond? Oh, you're cold. You're chilly. See you, mate. What great time we've heard. We'll do this again. I think he nodded. He nodded. He mouthed, yes, definitely.

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