Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Lucia Keskin (Part Two)

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

In part two of Emily and Ray’s walk with the wonderful Lucia Keskin, the star and creator of the award-winning comedy series Things You Should Have Done, the conversation continues with more warmth, honesty and laughs.If you haven’t already, make sure to catch part one. And do yourself a favour and watch series two of Things You Should Have Done, now streaming on BBC iPlayer. It really is a thing of total joy.Follow Emily:InstagramXWalking The Dog is produced by Will NicholsMusic: Rich JarmanArtwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Part 2 of Walking the Dog with the wonderful Lucia Kestin, the star and creator of the award-winning comedy series, Things You Should Have Done. Series 2 is currently on BBC Eye Player now, so do yourself a favour and give it a watch, as it's frankly a thing of total joy. I really hope you enjoy part two of our walk, and do give us a like and a follow, so you can catch us every week. Here's Chi and Ray Ray. There was this video that you posted, which I feel got a lot of attention.

because I'm assuming is this during lockdown or was this before then that you ended up on the news? It was I think it must have been just just very much before lockdown I think and you posted they were doing an item on friends and it was Clive Myrie so you know the big guns we're not talking about one of those regional ones that steps in at the last minute it was proper it was a big anchor you got yeah and that was you know Wilferal anchor man you got You've got Clive and Clive's going, you know when they have this lovely chuckle in their voice, as if to say we're now going over to a young lady who's a huge fan of friends. Yeah, huge for Friends fanatic.

It was just sort of what they used to call an Anne Finally story, cute dogs, you know. However, before we got to you, Clive was doing, if you'll forgive me, a much more serious item. Of course, yeah. On Brexit. Some more newsworthy. It was all the post-Brexit stuff that was endless. And he's entering this very serious man. And this was your equivalency.

It kind of almost like a viral moment because it was the equivalent of when that news guy... It was, wasn't it? Was talking and then his children ran into the house and his wife came in to remove the kids. It felt like that because this guy's going, yes, that's absolutely right. And the negotiations, obviously, the Prime Minister has spoken out.

Suddenly a phone comes up on the BBC. screen in front of this man's face with a ringtone, there's a sort of, looks like what's a Skype call or in progress. There's your avatar on your phone where you're poking your tongue out and it says, gee, calling. What the hell happened? Well, it's, I mean, I don't really, can't believe what it happened really, because all it was, I was waiting to, I was obviously the segment after being held on Skype and they said, if you, if it cuts off, call us back. So it's exactly what I did, you know, cut off. So I called them. And it just so happened that it called them directly onto the telly.

But it was the fact that your avatar on your phone, you've got your tongue poking out. I don't know how the hell that happened, to be honest. It's really worth going to Cheez's YouTube channel and checking it out. It's so funny. And then you go on to talk about friends itself. Yeah, and it was just that it was an awful interview as well. Why? It was just, you know, it was the first time doing it and I'm really terrible at doing like TV appearances.

I'm so awful at people just think, you know, what is this person? So do an impression of yourself retrospectively, she I'll be Clive. So Lucia, you appear to be a big fan of friends. What is it you love about America? And I just went, oh, well, it makes America laugh. And he sort of went, okay, that's all we've got time for. Now, I'll tell you what he did, she, because I've watched it and I'm a number of. of times. He went like this, he went, okay then.

Yeah, it was like, oh God, he's really trying to move on, isn't it, in a nice way? As if to say, all right, we all know. We've all had a drink. You were so sweet because you're sort of trying to answer these questions, but it is kind of mortifying this older man. And just being on the news, talking about friends, when all you've really done is just done a video about friends, and suddenly you're on the news as a friends fanatic, you know. But also, you weren't, presumably they'd contacted you because of your online presence was growing

and they thought, oh, this girl's posted a friend's video. Yeah. But I think also what's difficult is there are some kids who are quite performative, you know, those sort of more stage schooly kids who would have been like, I love friends and their mum would have told them what to say and they go, and Chandler's my favourite,

because he's so funny. And you didn't do that. He just said, so you, so why is it that you're so passionate? friends you love friends and you went yeah I just quite like it really yeah I just quite like it and that is the issue I find with why you know don't go over it down very well on my most like I did soccer A.m and it was absolute hell why did you do soccer A M was that again because you had a growing online presence that was when because I'd done a show called Sneakahead on it was like a day of UK TV show a few years ago and I can only assume that Big Zoo and Hugo

who were the two male leads weren't available. I like leads. Oh, in the show. Sorry, I thought you're talking about the Soccery M leads. No, no. I haven't heard them called Leeds before, the presenters. Like, I just only assumed that they weren't free. And so, because they were supposed more, you know.

And you're into football? Not a single clue about sports or football or anything. What are you doing? I'm sorry. So I thought they must have just wanted the, you know, UK TV have got this gig, they can't do it, so they've got the last person available to do it. And it was just so unmatched.

And I was so, when I get stressed and nervous sometimes, I go numb, where I almost feel like nothing's going on. Yeah. And I just could come across as, I suppose, a bit miserable or a bit, like, you know, moody, which I'm not, but all people sort of, you know, I had no idea. It was me, Robbie Keene, Leon Edwards. I was like, what a weird group to be a part of. Like, it had nothing.

You know, all the audience cheering for these people and everything. I had no idea who I was. I felt so out of place. And then... So what is it you like about football? Yeah, I just like it really. I just really like it. And I like it.

And obviously, they let you do a kick into the goal. Oh, did you do that? It was so embarrassing. Just because... And then, you know, I watched it back. On the way home was reading. I was like, oh, my God, I am hated. I got so many death threats and horrible comments.

There's more personality in dish water. And I was like, oh my God, am I this bad? And so I went home and watched it. It was like, yeah, that is really not what you want to see, is it? Like, that type of person on the tell. It was just absolutely like... But it's interesting because you had these various experiences like the Friends one, and you were pretty young, let's be honest.

Yes. You're at your most self-conscious. I know this. I have a niece who's, you know, she's 15 now. now and everything is cringe. Why don't you call a friend and see if they're around? Oh my god, that's so cring. What, contacting a friend? Why is that cringe?

Sending someone on WhatsApp? Oh, that's so cring. So I know what your mindset is at that age. But what intrigues me about you is that most people, after that friend's incident, it might take you a couple of decades to get old enough to think, do you know what, that was actually really funny. Yeah. But for you to do that, to be so resilient, I suppose,

to be able to say, this is funny, I'm going to post another video deconstructing it and taking the piss out of myself. Yeah. How, where does that resilience come from? And do you acknowledge that is quite unusual? I think so, but to me, it was just felt like, if I'm gonna, I thought you can either go,

you know, you can either go down the route of being like, oh my God, I'm mortified and being embarrassed by stuff like it. Or I just think, if people are gonna laugh at it, I'd rather laugh at it, with them and also find it funny. And so I just, I think because I wanted to keep going with stuff, it was the only way of sort of being able to cope with it is by taking the piss out of all the things that went wrong.

But that's still quite, you know, an unusually resilient. Yeah, I suppose it is, yeah. Position to take, I think. Yeah. You know how most people, if something goes wrong online or there's something embarrassing? Yeah, that to me is like, brilliant, I can use that. Really?

Yeah. So you just think this is great currency? Yeah, this all work brilliantly, you know? Because it's like, that to me is the perfect type of, I seem to be very good at being unlucky in terms of things going wrong. Well, do you know what I would say? I don't know if it is that. I think it's because most people will try and bury shame.

Yeah, maybe, yeah. And I think that's the difference. It's like people say to comics, God, all these incredible things happen to you and you think, no, it's just that I notice them. Yeah, and I talk about, yeah. Yeah, I understand. I know that they can be alchemized.

Yeah, that's it, I suppose. And I think for you, it's like most people would be like, oh my God, that was so embarrassing when that happened at the dentist when I pulled out my vibrator or something. You would think, this is great. This is powerful. Instead of we must never speak of this again. Yes, of course, because realistically,

I always used to try and put myself in other people's shoes of like, if someone told me this, I would laugh. Yeah. So it wouldn't make a difference if it was me. So I should, I think that always, I always used to think that way of like, is this embarrassing, yes, but if I saw someone else do that, I would probably find that funny, so I should probably do it. And I think it's also, again, that's what, you know, brilliant comics do, is that they're

owning it. So actually, once you release any sense of shame around it, it is, isn't it? It's such a liberating feeling, isn't it? It's lovely, because you can be in on it and, you know, you're bringing joy to people. from your embarrassment. And also just people try. Should we go there? That looks a bit weird down there.

What is it? I remember once when I was working, I was working in newspapers and there was another journalist that I worked with and he said, a colleague said, you two were always hanging out together. Do you fancy him or something? I said, yeah, I do actually. Front of everyone.

Yeah, because it's like that's what people would not expect. And it was just sort of laughed at, but I thought, God, that felt, no one can start. Well, no one can, because, you know, that's your greatest spirit. People say, I think she fancies him. And I was like, yeah, I do actually fancy him. It's the best thing to say. Say what people don't expect you to say.

Always the better way, it really is. Did one of the things that obviously people often write about and is very, you know, something that I find fascinating in terms of your career trajectory is that you're an example of someone who actually ended up. moving into getting a series commissioned by the BBC purely as a result of this brilliant work you've done online. Yeah. Would you say it was primarily as a result of that? Because you were fairly young.

When you had your BBC 3 series commissioned, things you should have done, how old were you? When we got the pilot or script commission, I was about 19, 20, or 20. 19. I know, it was very, or 20. I don't really, it feels, this goes so, When you got the series, it makes time just feel like a blur, because it's so...

And did the BBC just say, look, we think you're great? Because you hadn't gone through those usual channels, which, let's be honest, either I've been at the Edinburgh Festival or my dad went to Cambridge with a BBC comedy producer. Yeah, of course. It's like, you know, I was really lucky that way. But it was, it was, at the time, I would, I was, I just got an agent. And I, it was when my granddad was dying and I realized I want to, I want to, it was all, because really I wanted to work with Diane. I wanted to meet Diane Morgan, yeah.

And I thought, well, the only way of doing that really is just writing a script, I suppose, and trying to like sort of stalk my way into her, like, you know, working with her and then we'd be friends. And so I thought, well, I'll write a script. And so I wrote this script, and it was in with someone else. And this was the one I was focusing most on. And I just thought, well, this is the one, you know,

this will be the show that I'll work on. And at the time, met with Ruffalo. who do things and they said oh we would like to do something with you as well and I was like yeah okay course but I'm focusing on this one thing I'd really like to you know mainly focus on this it was absolute crap because I'd not written I had no idea how to write at the time you know I'd not I just wrote it all I didn't know about planning you know what yeah write a script it was all just done in the living room and then that just sort of slowly disappeared and rough-cut one just kept going the beat they said the BBC would like to you know

they're interested in what if you what you know our idea I thought oh well it's probably not going to go anywhere though because this one this one's better and it just slowly kept on the you know producer kept had lots of confidence in it oh is you going to night nights you're going nine nights and um it just slowly kept people we see, you know, commissioned a script, and then, you know, they like the idea of commission to script and then pilot, and it just slowly crept up into becoming the thing that we did. And I first found out, or came across the thing that you did, as you call it, because Connie Huck, who's a good friend of mine.

Of course, we love Connie. We speak all the time. And a lot of our conversations revolve around what shall we watch? and she said, have you seen things you should have done? I said, what is it? She went, oh my God, you would love it. And you know, sometimes you're like, oh, God, is this going to be one of those awkward things where I say, oh yeah, and they keep saying, have you watched it?

And I've had this with friends. And I say, no, I haven't got round to it. And I have watched it. And I hated it. But I'm not good enough. I'm still not confident enough to say, I don't agree with your taste on this. But Connie and I have pretty much always bang on the money in terms of our taste. So I thought, I'll give this a go.

And I was hooked from probably about 40 seconds in. And I think what I loved about it, and we should say, it's based on this character who's called Chi, like you. And she, her parents die in a car crash. Please come around. So, you know, we have this terrible news for you. And it's fairly clear early on that she, She's perhaps not very well equipped to deal with news like this,

practically and emotionally. Yep, yep, yep. And what I love about it, I think, is it's sort of very dark. You go very close to the line, which I love. I think that grief, when you go through any sort of grief, which you've experienced with your granddad, that's what keeps you going as dark humour. It really is.

It is the only thing that sort of gets you, why, you know, be, right, The last thing I was right is like a sad version of what happened. I'd rather sort of just try and make, you know, laugh about it. And also people grieve, grief is such a strange journey. Like you do feel like you're going through weird emotions. Like it suddenly doesn't feel real and you're just thinking about what I'm having for dinner. Yeah. And so I just thought like the things I find funniest are the dark stuff.

Well, I think the other thing I loved is that I think often around grief and bereavement. people, whenever they write about it or portray it, it's always very noble and dignified. And what I love about this is it's this sort of Gen Z girl who's a bit hopeless and inarticulate, quite honestly. Yeah. There's no inability to it. No, not at all.

She just says, oh, no. It's a lot more than that. But that's how I sum up her reaction. It's kind of, oh, no. There's a great moment which I love as well, which I, it really connected with me. And this is the point at which I thought this is a bit of me. Yeah. Was when she has, she's character has these sort of mini characters, sometimes famous people and just generous.

They're almost like borrowers who are in her cupboard and things. And they pop up with bits of life wisdom and for her to talk to. And there's one little character when she opens the cupboard. And the character just says, sorry you lose your hair. I'm so pleased. And it was the fact that she said, Losed, and it was so insulting that she couldn't be bothered to conjugate that properly.

She didn't know it was sorry for your loss or sorry you lost and sorry you lose your parents. And I was crying laughing at that because I sort of thought that's the kind of thing when I was going through Greece that would have really made me smile. Yeah. Because people are striving so hard for the right language. And when they get it wrong,

I love so please you picked up on that line the sort of bits that I love it when people notice like the weird stuff that you just it's so good and there's even a great moment when she goes to the solicitor and she doesn't understand that a solicitor handling a sort of probate or wills she thinks he's given her the house with a gift

well she doesn't understand she goes so you're going to call us then he's like well no that's it I've done my job now. Yeah, leave us alone now. But it's a brilliant team you have around you as well. Yeah, it's very lucky. I think the other thing I was aware of you with it is that it's, she's sort of hopeless.

She's trying to adults. A lot of the theories about can't drive, et cetera, et cetera. Doesn't really know how to how life functions. Doesn't how to pay bills or I think the lights get cut off at one point. I know. Yeah, and the lights get cut off, and she goes, oh, no. Oh, no. You could have called the series, I know.

No, it's a good version, to be fair. But when the lights get cut off, she's sitting in the dark, and she doesn't know how to even begin to deal with this. What also occurred to me, I don't know this is intentional, but I sort of feel what I liked about it is a lot of people from my generation, there is this tendency to sort of slightly slam your generation. Gen Z, you know, and say, oh, they're hopeless, they can't do anything, they're, you know, snowflakes, etc, and also can't adult. And on another level, I saw this as almost as slightly, there's a bit of satire on that for me that, okay, you're saying we can't tire and shoelaces, here you go. Was there an element of that? A little bit I think, but also I think I tried to also sort of make those people laugh as well

because you know how I think I think some people think oh well you know that generation just don't get it whereas I feel like they can get it if they sort of like play into the fact that that is sometimes true but also it's like we can joke about that yeah yeah suppose so I wanted to make that that you know that generation laugh and when you say that generation you mean my sort of generation I suppose but that also feels like my generation yeah so it's like it's weird

to me it's like I don't feel like I'm in the Gen Z generation that feels like maybe that's why you're able to distance yourself from them a bit I know what you mean yeah it's weird it's like I feel like sometimes I'm taking the piss out of Gen Z because I'm not a part of it. Yeah, it's sort of like what I would view of Gen Z. Yeah. Yeah, that's so interesting, too. And obviously, this series, you know, there was a huge buzz about it.

It got glowing reviews. Mm-hmm. There was one less glowing review. Shall we touch on this? Of course. Tell me about what happened. There was a bit of a weird thing that happened, wasn't there? So I get a DM on Instagram from Natalie Cassidy, who we love.

I was very excited. I was a big Nat Cass fan. And she said, oh, make sure you tune in to off the telly. Me and Joanna Page are going to review it. I thought, how exciting. I'm a big Gavin and Stacey fan, you know. Love Nat Cass, really interested to see what she thought, because Natalie said that she really liked it.

I thought this is a lovely. Very excited by this. and then forgot all about it. I waited for the episode to come out. I'd had a bit of a shit day. I'd just got out of the shower. It was like 2 a.m. I thought, I know it would cheer me up.

I'm going to listen to the review. And so I played it. Obviously, the first thing I heard was things I should have done and I'd bother to fucking watch it. I thought, oh my God. My heart completely sank. And I was like, this is absolutely,

I was just absolutely shocked because I can't believe this woman that I'd watched on television for years went in so brutal on something I'd made. And I was just in shock and I was very sad at first. Like I tried to, no one was awake because it was three in the morning. I was like, who do I talk about this with? And so I'm just going to react to it and try and make a joke out of it to deal with it. Because, you know, it's quite, it was quite camp and funny how much she hated it.

And, yeah, people sort of, I suppose stuck up for me. But now I find it hilarious. But at the time, the first six hours, I was absolutely devastated. But you know, interestingly, you know, we're coming back to your resilience again. Yeah. And how your reaction to this wasn't to absorb that.

I do do that, though, but it's just, I think, I hate that feeling. So I have to, I tried to, you know, I thought, how can I, what can I do with it? So I had to react with it and make a joke out of it. But the first, you know, I was very upset at first. Right. So it's interesting that that's obviously something you find empowering and helpful, I suppose, is to say, look, I'm not going to run away from this and pretend it hasn't been said and I haven't seen it.

Like I've been really busy. I've been in New York. I've been out of the country, you know. I'd rather make a joke out of it. Yeah, you were sort of owning it and you did this really funny video with that comment playing in the background or that bit of the podcast. Just sort of reacting to it. You reacting to it. And that really went almost viral, I think.

I know. But then I felt bad because I thought, oh God, people are coming for Joanna Page now. And have you heard from Joanna Page at all? No, not a whisper. Do you know what I think? I think we're going to have to get her on this podcast. I think she should get her on the podcast. Because she might.

I mean, I've said it before. I've got no bad blood. I would happily meet up with her and, you know. Well, I'm going to tell her that. Maybe I should. Tell her, you know. going to mediate and be the broker here. I'd love to hang out with her and have, you know, she seems like she's, she doesn't, she seems like a nice person.

I think she just hated the show. Yeah. You know, but, you know, maybe we'd get on. Who knows? I'm going to negotiate the peace process. Just call me Donald Trump. Just do it. So I don't know if maybe, maybe she also would feel like maybe, you know, I now have a, you know, this big grudge against her.

But I don't. I would happily. chat to her you know no hard feelings and it helped it did help for sure it really was the best press we had for sure that's good at least it worked out well in the end and talking of which the second season has just come out of course and she helped the first scene we used we used a bit of Gavin stacy in the opening scene and I was lucky enough to be invited to a screening of that and it's so brilliant and I met your mom yeah and he loved you and you've got a new cast member

Bridget Christie, who plays the worst therapist in the world. Who's absolutely amazing. Although I think I can match her with a grief counsellor I once had. And you know when you go in and I know this is awful to you, but I was walking up her garden path. Yeah. And there was a little sort of fairies and gnomes in the garden. Oh God.

Yeah, that's the type of... And I thought, I want to talk to you about my mental health and you've got fucking nose. But I've never had a good experience with a therapist. I had a good one. Did you? See, I've never... And that's sort of what inspired Ruth as that character. She's terrible, that therapy.

Well, this grief council, I walked up there and it said, like, this garden thrives with love and fairy dust. And I thought, really? Oh, God, I'm about to open up to this person. She's got gnomes everywhere. And I just thought I didn't love her decor. And I know that's not the most thing. Yeah.

But, you know, it's not a good start, is it? Well, I told her something that was really painful that my dad had said, or when my sister had died. It was just one of those, you know, it was something he'd said around the death, which had really hurt me and she said oh come on people of that generation always say silly things you're going to have to move on sounds like Ruth I'm gonna it was like that yeah but that's what I mean so the Bridget Christy character's brilliant because she's not just incompetent she's sort of a narcissist she is yeah she's an absolute nightmare of a therapist

like literally telling being sat laying down with a blanket feeling suicidal next to a client that also feels worse Like the worst cyber thing you'd want from the therapist. Well, season two is brilliant. Season two is absolutely brilliant. But what I've loved is that you've now started posting online. And again, these videos have taken off, sort of slightly roasting the BBC. Yeah. Who are weirdly sort of in on it though?

Yeah. Like they're encouraging it. Yeah. Because obviously, you know. Saying they're not saying I'm not getting on the one show or Graham Norton. Because it's, you know. ultimately I'm not really I'm sort of a nobody no one really knows who I am so obviously I'm not going to be on things like that

and marketing is hard it's very hard for new shows because it is you know unless you're drawn French yeah I'm not going to be getting all the press and things like that and so we're just sort of trying to play on that fact that promoting a new show is absolute nightmare and yeah at the minute all we can really focus on is how like you know BBC put out and it aired on BBC one yesterday two days ago and the you've seen it but the the news

the you know the reader goes next up the triple bill of things you should have known so it's like they're not helping themselves I keep taking the piss out of them but they keep throwing stuff in and not helping themselves so obviously it's great for me because I can keep using it

and say like you know they don't even know the name of their own show but you know it's it's all helpful and hopefully they'll appreciate that it sort of helps the show. It must feel such a sense of achievement that coming out, but I'm also, do you have that sense of, right, what next? Oh God, yeah, all the time.

I always feel like I'm not doing enough. Yeah. I'm not working hard enough or, you know, I'm not. You think, will that be it? And then I'm back to, you know, my demise of not having any GCSEs. and what will I do? You always worry, you know, what if I don't, what if I don't, you know,

get another job after this? If we can't go on for Series 30. Have you got anything planned coming up other than your show? Not really, yeah, just sort of... Would you do stand-up ever? I always wanted to do stand-up, but I have absolutely no stage presence. I'm so bad on stage.

It's like how I am on, like, soccer AM or you know the news there's just you know talking to an audience just doesn't go well for me I'm really I'm so bad at it I'm so bad at like I did I used to do musical theatre so I wasn't sure if I wanted to do that at one point and like my downfall was just not being able to smile or look at the audience I understand but yeah I always sort of wanted to do stand-up that was one of the things if I hadn't done videos that's what I wanted to do but just never had the courage who's too shy Who would you say in this business would you single out as having been sort of well-known names in this business

Performers I suppose I'm thinking of who've been supportive and kind and Do what I mean you know there are certain people that you think weirdly I think Matthew Horn Really you know he was always very supportive Diane obviously Morgan yeah um Connie obviously We love Connie. We love that. Lou Sanders, one of my good friends. She's always been very supportive.

And how are you finding, do you get recognised to you? Not at all. Really? Not at all, yeah, no. But I don't, you know, I wouldn't expect to. I can't imagine you're someone who would be particularly interested in that side of things. Well, I mean, it's the same thing you'd be like, oh, that's so nice. But at the same time, like, like, if you say, it would happen once every two years.

It's so embarrassing because obviously you're not used to it and it's like how do you respond to that? It almost feels like they're taking the piss. What do you mean? You want to have a photo with me? I know how you'd respond. As Leuchier, you go, oh no. Oh, look at that little goose. I love, look how golden their eyes are.

They're beautiful, aren't they? Does that mean they're the men? I think the men have those tiger eyes maybe. You don't might, you don't care about the birdies, do you? This little face. I won't go back to bed. He is such a little angel. You're such a good boy.

He loves this tree. This is the loveliest walk for him. He's never been so happy in his life. I absolutely adore him. So I feel like you're in a good place at the moment, aren't you? And you've moved out of your family home, your mum's home. So where do you live now in London, roughly area was? I've got a place in Ramsgate, but now I'm with Jack.

I'm sort of up and down. Up and down. And this is your boyfriend. Yeah. Who's our director. Oh. Who obviously Connie set up. Yes, we should say this is an exclusive.

Connie Hart brought them together. Yeah. By lying essentially. Yeah, just. She rung him up and she just went, hi. From a broom cupboard. From a broom cupboard. And she said, I've got some tickets to an event thing I'm going.

Wondered if you fancied going. Well, she is standing in the back and going, oh no. Oh, no. And then Connie called me and go, Look, I've just done this. I've interfered and I lied and told I've got these tickets. Do you think that's all right? I said that is fucking mortifying.

Stop sticking your nose in. It worked. It worked. I have no idea. Jack still says to this day he would never had any idea for Antwin for Connie Huck. And what a story to tell. Connie's pushiness. Some might say aggressive is over this.

He said, you know, all he tells his friends, he was just, you know, at home after a shoot and he gets a call from Blue Peter's Connie Huck. But didn't you think it was weird that Connie? What did she say? This is Connie Huck. Yeah, this is Courtney Huck from Blue, you know, from Blue Peter. And what did she, she did? What did she say then?

I don't think, I don't know. I don't know. I think she said Liz gave it to him, because luckily Liz obviously was, did make up on our show. Liz is a mutual friend then. Yeah. And we love Liz. We love Liz.

And then, luckily Jack is sort of the type of person that would just find that hilarious. He did find it hilarious. He did find it hilarious. It wasn't, didn't find it weird at all and loved it. Like, just loved that that was a thing that happened. was a thing that happened. I think he was, I think he found, he was like, you know, I found it quite cool that corny Huck called me up. I think he found that really cool. And said, I've got an extra ticket. Would you like to come? For something that started in 10 minutes.

And did he come? It was such a funny line. But she used it to obviously tell him that he thinks, she thinks that we'd be a good couple. Could she say that to him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, apparently. She did not push it that. She never told me she pushed it. She said, she never told me she said that. She didn't. She never told me she said that because that's a whole new level. I know but it worked. It was weirdly the thing that worked. Hello, no Peter's Connie Huck here. I have, I've never met you before, but I have a spare ticket to something. Would you like to come? No. By the way, I think you'd be a great couple. Bye-bye. Yeah, that was apparently exactly how it went and it absolutely bloody worked. Oh my God. But I suppose it is, you know, it's a great story to tell people. It is an amazing

stories to say that Corny Hark set you up. She's really sucked into your narrative now. She is. It's perfect, you know. I love this. It's a great story. So, I'm going to ask a difficult question. Yes. Do you think, and it's related to dogs

yes, now that we're coming to the end of our walk, do you think you would ever get another dog? Does it still feel too soon? Do you know what? It's mainly just because I've got cats now. I've got tuna and Philomena conk. There's Diane Morgan about it. this I think she knows but I don't know how I've not spoken to her I don't really know her that well to be honest it's probably quite weirded out by me well she's

been on this I've made her do it nice but yeah I think she might know but so I've got these cats now because I got them when I knew peer was dying because I didn't want to be petless and I thought cats may be better at me for me at the minute with work but they've actually come to be harder because Jack's severely allergic to cats. Well Connie didn't find that out, did she? Where was Blue Peter's Connie Huck when we needed that info? Might have been useful, Connie, that's all I'm saying. At the minute, you know, I'm back and forth with these cats. My mum's been looking after them. But I desperately want another dog. I want, if it, if, you know, all being well, I'd want a zoo full of cats and dogs. I would

as well. So I definitely would love to, once I've, you know, settled down, maybe been with Jack for a few years. He loves dogs. So are you based in Ramsgate at the moment? I'm sort of... At the minute, I'm sort of... Between his and... It's like mainly in London now. And your boyfriend's based in London? Yeah, so I'm sort of...

You know. Look, I'll be honest, I'm just... You seem to get on very well with Wretch. It's just always useful to know if I do have an event or wedding. I will look after him any point. And at Jack's as well, he loves dogs. Which part of the London area is Jack based in? Blackfriars.

That's quite handy. Okay. So any time, please. Hey, you've got new friends now. Jack would absolutely love him. He's no trouble to. I would... He is the one of, I think, my favourite dog.

He's an absolute angel. I would, like, I'd pay you to look after him. I love him. Ray, do you hear that? You're a little angel. Do you like that? What, don't you steal you? You're so cute.

What a little absolute character. Thank you. And what do you think of Ray? Chi, I have absolutely loved our walk, have you. I have loved it so much. It's been the best walk I've ever done. I don't usually get up. I usually sit down all the time, so this has been amazing. I'm raised, being carried by you in Splend.

Oh, God, I love it. What a great podcast. Thank you so much for having me. I love it. Well, I love your show, and I absolutely urge, if you haven't watched it, what are you doing with your life? You really need to watch it. It's on BBC I Player now. Both seasons are up. Both up there, yeah. Season one and season two.

Give me a hug. I love you. I'm so pleased with Matt. Was that to Ray or me, be honest? Both of you, all three of you, to be honest. Okay, that's my producer. He's getting involved. Don't get involved. I've absolutely loved it and I hope we can be friends and thank you for being so lovely to Ray. I love him. He's absolutely amazing. Ray will he say goodbye to Chi? Bye bye baby boy.

Do I put you down? Do you want to have a little walk? No, don't put him down. He's got a few years left. What a way to end? I'm not sure. I don't feel. Also, that's such a sick joke in relation to what you tell me. We know about you, Dr. Day. I really hope you enjoyed that episode of Walking the Dog.

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