Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Marjolein Robertson (Part Two)

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

In part two of Emily and Ray’s walk with the wonderful Marjolein Robertson, the conversation continues with more stories and reflections from one of the most distinctive voices in stand-up.If you haven’t already, catch up on part one. And if you’d like to see Marjolein live, tickets and dates are available at https://marjoleinrobertson.com.Follow Emily:Instagram X Walking The Dog is produced by Will NicholsMusic: Rich JarmanArtwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to part two of Walking the Dog with the wonderful comedian Mary Elaine Robertson. If you want to go and see her show Lean, spelt L-E-I-N, live, you can book your tickets at mariaenrobertson.com, and I highly recommend you do. Really hope you enjoy part two of our walk and do give us a like and a follow so you can catch us every week. Here's Mary Elaine and Ray Ray. Come on, baby, in the jacket. He's so sweet. He's so chill. I know they've ever met a more chill dog. Really? Well, that makes me happy.

Might as well, I suppose, I've also grown up with border collies. Yeah, that's right. So, the Amsterdam experience, how did that end up getting you involved in comedy? Oh, right. So, yeah, when I worked in the restaurant, then it turned out that I was working in a legal number of hours for less minimum wage. So far, so standard with your experience. And I was just like, he would be really annoyed if I wanted one day off ever. I managed to get some days off.

Every day I'd be in for like 11 hours. But I just thought maybe this is what city life is like. And I don't like to complain. I like to just do the work. But when I find out how little is going to pay me, I did the mass. And I was like, that's less than minimum wage. That's less than half minimum wage. This is illegal.

And it turned out everyone he hired was not from the Netherlands or almost all of us. And I think he's trying to underpay everyone. I was like, you have to pay everyone at least minimum. So I got fired immediately. But my Dutch cousin said, if you're wanting to make friends, a really good way to make friends is to join an improv troupe. Wow. So I would go to improv workshops every Sunday, but I was pretty broke. And when you bilingual because of your mum? No. Really? But they speak English and a lot of people there,

don't they? I always ask Mama, why didn't you teach me Dutch? She's like, I tried for an old assistant brother, and they never spoke Dutch back because I thought there's no point with you, and I moved to Amsterdam. So I can understand it and then can't reply, but they're Dutch speaking. English better as I do. And also even when I was trying to speak Dutch, if I made one mistake, they're like, this is quicker in English. And just, they just switched English. It's really frustrating because I have a Dutch name. Yeah, I'd be like, uh, I can't speak Dutch. So you tried out comedy though and you obviously enjoyed improv. Yeah, I just joined improv because it felt like something nice to do to meet people and a fun thing to do for myself. Yeah. I'd never done it before.

and I soon found that it was like escapism because every week you literally it's like play for adults it's like a safe space and I really enjoyed it and I couldn't afford the workshops but a group of friends put me on a workshop and then and then things were going a bit better and I was given a camera for Christmas from my family and my partner at the Times family and I was making little films but then the robbery happened so our house got robbed and absolutely everything I moved down to down with got taken which is all my things my laptop my camera my iPods, my speakers, my even clothes and mine got pinched all my own suitcases and I am

the improv school heard about this and they felt so bad for me they said they're running a stand-up course and they think I should just go do that as something positive in my life oh and that's how I start running stand-up wow it's just one bad thing after another and the improv school is like this is too depressing they're called easy laughs and they really really really took me under their wing and I did my first gig in Amsterdam and I felt like I got something out of the city So how old were you when you finally started doing stand-up Would you describe yourself as a late starter in comedy?

Well, no, because you're still pretty young, aren't you? I think comedy is one of the one careers where It's like, it's one of the arts careers I think it's more you can start any time because I think the more life you, like you don't need to but if you've not started comedy straight away but you've done different things in your life then you might have things to talk about

in a new... I don't know. I just think comedy is one of those things if anyone's thinking about it. I'm like, try it. It's never, ever too late. To honest, it's never too late with most things. I think this is a sad limit we put on ourselves

where we're like, oh, I can't start this now. Ray's not going to make crafts. I think we're going to have to be honest. The teeth have gone. So Ray, you're not going to make craft. But he's going today. He's the champion, he is the champion of our hearts, isn't he? That's what Mars more, the relationships along the way.

It's not about the accolades, it's about doing this. But yeah, so I'm... Well, talking of accolades, you've had numerous accolades, haven't you, throughout your career, constantly being voted this, that or the other. I've seen them, because you've been nominated for so many awards and you also won, was it something Scottish... Oh, yeah, the Scots language speaker of the year. I love that.

Yeah, it's really fun. because I got it from the Scots Language Awards and I went home to Shetland and I was like, look what I'm done. And the Shetlander was like, oh, a Shetlander getting voted the Scots speaker of the year. That's like if I got voted French speaker of the year. I was like, well, yeah, but it was really fun. And how do you find, because your stand up is really incredible and we're going to talk about, it's the last part of your trilogy, isn't it? Is that the next?

Lane, yeah. Yeah. And it took me a while to work this out, but when I did, I was so happy because I connected it with your first two shows. Good, because a lot of people, only when the third one came. Well, do you want to explain what the three shows are called? Yes, so Marge was the first show, and it's about the mind and a bad relationship bows in,

not the outside one, and it has a folk tale that is a good metaphor for that. Always the second show, it's about the body and menstrual health. There's a myth connected to it. And the third show is Lean and it's kind of about the spirit or life's journey as it were. And it's about how I got into comedy, a lot about Amsterdam. Lean is on at the Soho Theatre from, I think it's April 17th. Yes, Friday, yeah. So you should go and get your tickets, you can get them from Soho Theatre or I think you can probably get them from your website as well.

Yes, I have links on the website. What's your website? Just Marry Lane Robertson, but the good thing about being in Marty Lean is you don't really have to type that fact. When I did the show Marge, it was because I was doing this trilogy about the mind, body, and soul in three parts of Marjor Lane. But I also did Marge because if you type M-A-R-J into the Edinburgh box office website during the fringe, when you look for tickets for any shows, it's the only show that will ever appear. Really? Because all the years have been at the fringe, I've never seen another Mar-O-L-Layn appear when you're searching.

One day it'll happen, and then I'll be like, fair enough. But currently, and that's a big kind of storytelling is a big part of your comedy as well, isn't it? Yes, because that was actually the other thing that got me through Amsterdam, not just like getting into comedy, but I also got taken away to a nunnery for a week to do a storytelling course. Wow. And it was really, really, really nice. And I had never considered the fact that you could do storytelling professionally because storytelling is just such an ingrained part of, the Shilland culture and sharing folk stories and just getting together and tell stories for a night. So what do you think of, you know, I suppose there are two types of comics, aren't there?

There's sort of anecdotalists, if you like. Yeah. And then there are one-liner sort of gag-based comics. Do you enjoy that latter style of comedy or do you feel it's very different to what you do? Oh, I really enjoy it. I think I like about comedy and I think sometimes it gets put I think because of the nature of comedy I think sometimes people forget about it as an art form and comedy is just another art form where there's so many like in different movements in art or styles or or materials in comedy you've got your one-line-in-agad comics like you say your storytelling comics are surreal you're observational so there's so much comedy I love and absolutely adore watching

but I don't emulate that when I'm on stage because I'm a different style. Yeah. And I think again the one gag is like it's a whole craft itself. Oh, oh way way there you go. I wonder if you could put him in my hat. He'd be very happy. I wonder if he'd fit. Yeah. He might do. But yeah. But it's interesting because I love, I mean I've seen you live online and I love, I think you've got such a gift for, I don't know what is a gift, I suppose, isn't it? Because it It's also comedic timing, it's delivery, it's all that kind of stuff. And what you're saying is fascinating, but primarily it's funny. But I think you can sort of, there's a technical aspect to it as well. Is that something that you felt you had instinctively or is that learning on the job as well?

Timing and pacing and, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think it was really interesting doing that comedy writing course because I came to it from a very analytical place in the get-go to begin with where it was like deconstructing what a joke is and a joke is kind of you set up a reality and you flip it you twist it when the examples were given on the course was killed a mouse the other day now I'm banned from Disneyland for life I can't remember whose joke that was but it's just like you set up this normal scenario right and then you flip it and so like we all got asked to say surprising stories when the surprise comes that's where you can start building your

first joke and So I think, I do think comedy is something that, because it is like any profession, even people who are artistic, there are elements where people might naturally gravitate towards they're just like a funny person or quite a likable person in talk. But all these things also, it's a craft that you need to learn. You need to watch comedy. And I say you need to, but I think for most people you just watch comedy because you enjoy it. Like as a comic, I was always pulling over other people's routines just because I enjoyed them. And it takes time to like develop your voice on stage, be comfortable on stage to think fast. And also presumably in your case to celebrate that what your difference is what makes you special and unique. Do you know what I mean that you didn't think, and possibly in a previous generation, I thought,

I better lose my accent and start sounding like everyone else. And do you know what I mean? or kind of, you know, hiding what makes me special. Yeah. You know, which is this extraordinary place I come from and my lineage and... Yeah, and I'm really thankful to people like paved the way for me. Who would you say that was? Well, for most storyteller comedians, I would say that Billy Connolly really paved the way

and also for speaking in your mother tongue. Billy Connolley unapologetically spoke in his accent and he would tell long stories. Yes. And he's honestly one of the best, in my opinion, but he really put storytelling onto the stage and comedy for a lot of people. And then also as a woman, like so many female stand-ups have carved a way out of being like, of course we deserve to be here, of course we're funny. That means that it's so much easier. And I don't think sometimes, sometimes I think we take for granted as women in comedy now, because there's a long period of time where if there's one woman on the bill, there couldn't be another. Yeah.

And I think for a lot of places that could be fairly recently. So kind of thankful that there's comedians before that have integrated styles that I want time in it can do and just my place on stage. But then also, like you said, then there's a kind of bonus thing of being like the Shatlin comedian. So people are intrigued. So I'm going to get booed. I'm so intrigued.

Well, I still, I resisted because I didn't want to be. cliche but I can resist no longer. I have to ask you about Shetland ponies. Because I've always been obsessed with them. Yeah. And I remember when I was younger, I did used to ride, but when I was younger I thought, because I was so small it was the height that terrified me. And I thought if I can just get one of those for life, it'll be all the fun, none of the potential for ending up in the spinal injuries used. Yes. Are there loads of Shetland ponies running around? Yes. about, you know, there are. When you drive around Shetland,

they'll see them, and there's some bits when, because there's some tour buses, so there's some bits new with Shetland Pony, so they always have Shetland Pony's, and they've actually made laybys, because tourist buses stop there so often. Do they? Yeah, you know, I just give them a cuddle. Sometimes they're just wandering around the roads themselves. Are they wild, then?

People own them. We used to have a Shetland Pony on Arcroft. Are you joking? No. You kept that to the end. Yeah. Yeah, because I almost told you this before we started recording. I never spoke about this on. stage and I wondered why because this is the thing when I went to uni I went to Edinburgh uni and a lot of people were very posh and I feel like they had no idea

what box to put me in right because as I say we didn't like have like a stratified society we didn't really have that class system in Shetland so then I'd come up and be like I'd be a Shetlander where I was like yeah I learnt to sail from a young age and we have some land and I had a pony and you realize that seems so posh and it's not but it's not because sailing was like an activity in the summers that was free for everyone. Any child could go up and sail because it's part of our heritage is like one of the free sports and ponies will be a pony in the cross. I mean it became expensive as it destroyed fence after

fence after fence. And his name was Roscoe and I once went away for a week at the orchestra the National Youth Orchestra training camp and was playing fill there for a week and I came home back to Shetland after the Easter holidays and I went to go feed Roscoe and he would no longer come to me when I'd call him and I was like what's happening and I was like shaking his little pan of nuts going Rosco Roscoe Roscoe and he wasn't coming to me

he always like go turd turd run out the park and I went and like I just had to throw his food in the bucket and get school and the next day same thing happened so I went into my dad as like dad is Roscoe okay like he's not coming up to me dad's like let me try and my dad was like Mr Roscoe and he got trun, turn, turn, turn, turn. And from then on, when I'd been away for one week,

my dad had started to referring to him as Mr. Roscoe, and he would no longer answer to Roscoe, which I think is such a clear example of how haughty Shetland ponies are. They are the upper class of Shetland. I love this. He would only come, and I had to start in the mornings going, Mr. Roscoe, even if he was hungry,

he wouldn't come until I gave him his full title. Oh, I love Mr. Rosco. Yeah. I would have loved Mr. Rosco. He was beautiful, but he was pretty rambunctious. And really stubborn. You could walk him up a hill, but he would only go down when he decided,

and either he'd pull you or you'd have to slip him. So, are your sort of mates in the comedy community? Do you have a... sort of gang of other comedians that you're close to and you feel like a support network, I suppose. Yeah, it's funny because when I first moved into the Comrade, I live in Glasgow, but that was briefly before COVID hit, so at home again, then I moved back down to Edinburgh. So I think as I started to make pals, then the lockdown hit, but then because we all started doing content online, so when my first like real friendship solidified, I think,

as well online and lockdown so in Scotland then yeah there's like it's really lovely to hang out with like um look at all these doggie corrections guys try not to laugh so we should say that was a i think it's fair to call him quite a strict dog trainer and he wasn't talking to us he was talking to what looks like four were they some sort of bullies or something i thought he was having to go at us at first so did i and he suddenly turned around he went three corrections guys i and he said I never knew that's one too many. The thing is, I mean, ex-old bullies are presumably reasonably intelligent, but I'm not confident they would understand that. Who knows? Maybe they're very well trained. But when you're talking about how many words a dog can understand, but will they not just be hearing

his tone and mean like what's going on? He genuinely sounded like he was having an argument with his wife. Maybe she turned into a dog. Oh, oh, that was that conquers. Yeah, conquers. What would you say? We don't have trees in Shetland, so this is very fascinating to me. What's that? We don't have trees in Shetland, so it's really fascinating to me when a tree does something. Yeah, as I did know, trees just drought stuff on you like that.

Right, no trees in Shetland. Obviously the thing called gravity. What do you think? Because I presume there's lovely things about being a comic, but it's kind of to a lot of people, obviously, it's scary as well. Do you enjoy that sort of seat of pants element? Do you find the adrenaline aspect of being on stage is something that works for you? I've gone through waves of how I've approached it differently.

When I started doing comedy, I was so excited to get gigs. I was still really nervous and I'd practice my set several times in the house. So I'd work perfect, but that can often lead to a kind of stiffness on stage. Really, so it's interesting. So you mustn't almost over preparedness is also a potential problem. Yeah, I took inspiration from George Carlin where his daughter said he used to stand in his room looking at his watch to allocate the seconds the laugh would be for each joke. But then actually, then you have to find out what kind of comic you are. And I'm quite just a chatty, like, on the hoof of thought comes to my head.

I say it in amongst a routine and I want to allow that breathing space. But I think when I've been at moments where I've been unhappy in my life or whatever situation, comedy has been the best thing because being on that stage is the one time I have control in my life. And then lockdown hit and I went through this massive fear of getting back on stage. And I used to think life would be easier. No, I wonder, yeah, I reckon, because we just, comedy is best when you do it regularly and you say gig sharp, they say, and say sharp and quick. And when you take a long period of time off, then your routines aren't so sharp in your head,

your reflexes aren't as fast. And it's also a confidence thing, isn't it? Big time. You know? And I think that I got more and more nervous about going on stage and I used to think to myself, life would be easier if I didn't put myself through this. And then someone said to me,

and I wish I could remember who it was. It's another carbook. I don't know if it was like Garth Waar or Gus Limber. And I can't remember who said it, but they said, before you go on stage, you feel your heart beating fast, you feel maybe a bit sick, your breathing, fast, your palms are sweaty.

Bama on my sweater again, ma'am spaghetti. But you feel like, all these feelings. I was going to say, it's all around quite everything. And they were like, but those feelings of anxiety and nerves are the same symptoms as when you're a bear, a child, and you're excited about something. You're like, oh, it's Christmas

tomorrow, I can't sleep, my heart's going, I can't sit down, I'm too excited, I'm shaking. And if you can rewire yourself to be like, these symptoms are because I'm excited to go on stage. And that's been a game changer for me. Because it makes me, I'm excited to do this. I'm excited to go and do this.

Yes, you're so right. Whenever I'm nervous about something, and it's about realizing I'm meant to feel like this, you know, that if you're feeling comfortable all the time, that is a sign. I think David Bowie said something amazing. I mean, he was always saying amazing things, wasn't he? But he said, you know, when you feel out of your comfort zone,

that's a sign you're doing the right thing. He said, people talk about the comfort zone. Oh, I'm out of my comfort zone. He said, no, that's the only zone you should ever be in. Because when you're operating all the time, I can do this, that's a sign that, you know, you should have moved on by now. I was going to say, I'm conscious it's cold, so I was heading this back towards the cafe. But if I want to speak to somebody who's going to be a bit hardier than the rest of us, it's you. So that David Bowie thing is interesting, isn't it?

Yeah, I totally agree because me and my friend lived together for a year. It was whilst I had written Marge and O and we decided to spend a year working on ourselves and we used to talk about this because we're like if doing the right thing was easy we'd have done it by new. So even if it's not like a work thing where you're challenging yourself,

it's just making a life decision or moving somewhere or being in the right relationship if it was easy you'd already be there so sometimes the right thing is the hard thing and that's when you have to leave your comfort zone. Totally agree. It's true, isn't it?

Yeah. And I think it's also it's understanding that sometimes when those things feel frightening, because there are kind of small decisions you make every day, it's any sort of risk is never going to feel normal. You know, we're so used to feeling comfortable all the time. We don't have to wait for cabs really any longer or have a risk. Will it arrive or not? Yeah.

I'll send a letter. Will someone get it? Now we get two ticks saying this person has definitely received this information. We see the car on its way. We can track it. But what I think that means is that it's reduced our tolerance for not knowing. That's so interesting. I never thought of it that way.

But it's totally true, yeah. And it's like instinct knowing. There are no variables anymore. Yeah. I actually think even things like that though, I think we're so wired in. Yeah. It scares me the whole idea where my auntie used to say a phone calls a request, not a demand. So if her phone rang and she didn't feel like answering it, she wouldn't. And she's like, if it's important, they'll bring again immediately.

Yeah. If it rings once and then they don't try ring again. She's like, it's a request. I'm having a nice time. I don't need to open up a new conversation. And I'm like, I want to be like that. Are you like that? I'm trying to be.

But I'm also that fear, you know, when you don't talk to someone for a few days and you're like, they're mad at me for no reason at all. I just think that. Really. Is that part of the ADHD, do you think? Rejection sensitivity? I think so, because there's no logical reason to feel that way. Do you cry a lot? Yes, I do, and I also would get really annoying because if I get angry, lost or frustrated, I go to tears immediately and it really bothers me because I don't want people to think, oh no, I have to look after her. I don't want people to think that I'm upset with them. I wish you didn't cry so easily

but I also think crying is a good thing to do and so I think I learned this when I got robbed in Amsterdam when I got robbed in Amsterdam this manager at the McDonald's I was working in at that point because I got a huge job of McDonald's I'm showing off

I actually got at the time of awards I got crew member of the month because they said they never seen Do they give you the gold stars? Do they give you the gold we didn't get a gold star but I got a 10 euro token for a hardware shop and they said it's the cleanest they'd ever seen the lobby floor. Sorry, why didn't they give you McDonald's voucher?

I know, we had to pay. We had to pay for the food. So I used to take a pack luncheon with me every day. Whenever I didn't get the McDonald's and ate my pack lunch, they were like, are you sick? Why aren't you eating our food? That's expensive. Because if I ate your food every day, I would be sick. I've seen murder.

But the manager in McDonald's, there's one manager who came in who, who I, I didn't get on with her straight away and usually in McDonald's they come in they work crew member level and then become a manager she came in straight to manager position and was really bossy and not we just didn't get on that well

but when I was robbed she took me into the office because everyone knew what happened she's like I just want to talk to you and see how you're getting on and I was like okay and she's like have you mourned your possessions yet and I was like what? And she said this might sound strange

but the same way as when you lose someone you love you have to grief and you have to process the loss of something the loss of someone and she's like you've been robbed so everything's been taken from you and she's like this isn't meant to be silly or shallow it's to help you move on you should let yourself be like

accept it more than the loss of these things because a lot of things are like my fiddle that I played at all these concerts or my bass that my brother had made and painted for me and my sister had given me parts of and so It's all like connections to people. She's like, those are the things you have to say goodbye to so you can move on.

And then she told me her life story about how she had children and a partner and then her partner just left her overnight. And she was like, well, I stopped working to look after my children. And I desperately needed an income. And she got hired and they're like, look, we know you're in this situation. So we're just going to be straight to mind your position so you can afford your rent and to look after your children. And she was going through a really hard time. And it just was like, it was really sweet of her

to have that conversation with me. And Anthony was like, oh, it's not silly to cry over being robbed because crying releases, have you ever heard like cortisol? Like you've cortisol in your tears. Sorry, am I just telling you things that you're ready? No, I'm agreeing with you because I actually, it's taken me a long time to realize that it's never unhealthy to cry.

And I think for so long, I think because we live in a kind of society where it's more acceptable to shout at someone at work than it is to cry. Like there was a book in the 90s called If You Have to Cry at Work, Go Outside. And you think, why was there never a book written called if you have to yell at someone at work? Go and fucking calm down because that's not okay. But that was okay, screaming abuse at someone. Do you know what I was working? And yet crying at work, there was a shame around it that it was like you can never be.

show your face again, it's unprofessional. And I sort of love that younger people, like your generation, that's changing now, that we're okay with tears, we're okay with men crying, for God's sake, how long is it taken that it's okay for a man to cry? Yeah. You know, I love crying, Mary Elaine. Yeah. Cry's my favourite. I know, because I said it there where it's like, embarrassed. I'm embarrassed myself in a situation where I'm trying to express another emotion, but yes. You're totally right. And it's the idea that your emotions are the symptoms for what's going on inside the same way when they're like oh I've got a runny nose in the sore head I've got cold I'll take paracetamine rest whereas you're like I'm crying I need to sit and

con like not to like wallow in it but to meditate upon it to be like where is this coming from in my life in me how has it affected me and how can I process it to move on also you've got a poetic soul you're a Shetland woman you're very poetic and magical and there's something and energy about you that I can't put my finger on and it's not just because I know where you're from. It's something very Wuthering Heightsy. I need to read this book. Have you had this before? I've not read it.

No, I've never had that before. There's a Cathy quality to you and I think you're very Bronte heroine. Oh, I will, do you want, I need to read it because I see there's the new film mate but I want to read the book rather as watch the film. Yes, oh definitely. I'd be a big fan. Or maybe as a thank you for doing this podcast, I will send you

a copy. That's what I'll do. That would be nice. Will you remind me, Will, because I've got ADHD and I'll we were actually speaking about the fact that we haven't been reading as much as we'd like and I thought

I just oh that that's really kind and that'd be a nice present we'll get you on the artist's way we can update each other about doing it do you know what I've absolutely loved our walk

have you enjoyed it yeah it's been really sweet I am impressed at the research you did really yeah you knew a lot and but also it's been quite therapeutic

has it? yeah oh I'm so glad I found it so and I think you genuinely really love Raymond some people they like him but there's an element of okay where do I pose with this stupid bloody dog shivering weirdo dog but your energy felt very genuine towards he's so cute though do you love him yeah and he's so I don't know it's so peaceful I sometimes like I said to you before I get nervous around dogs just that they won't like me it's not that it's a dog it's just like what if the dog's like you're a badden give him a final cuddle it absolutely

Love to you. Thank you so much, Marrily. Look at his little hair. He's got his little eyebrows. When did you get him? I got him when he was ever so small. He was tiny. How much when I'm smaller than this? Oh, he really was.

I bonded with him from the very first day. Oh, lovely. He's so, he's a special little boy. Aren't you, Raymond? He doesn't want to come back to me now. Okay, we'll see you both. Bye. I think it would be...

You're going to go do crush. Yes, you were. You're going to do crafts. We might have to put some, do you know what? He'll have to put some veneers in though before that. I'm going to take him to get some... I wonder if there would be a cosmetic dentist that would do veneers. We'll go to turkey for your teeth.

Oh, for dogs. That'd be amazing. Turkey teeth. Imagine veneers for dogs. Imagine they just give him human teeth though and how terrifying that would be. Ray, we're going to take you to turkey to get your teeth done. My partner had his wisdom tooth pulled out and the dentist gave it to him to tack home. That's some shock thing.

I was like I want it so I was going to clean off the flesh and keep it but I'm normal I don't get grossed out by anything but because it was his flesh it made me sad so I couldn't bring myself to scrub his flesh down the sink so now I just have this weird rotten tooth I kind of love it it's very Billy Bob Thornton and Angelina Jolie I love it's wearing a vial of blood around my neck you go wisdom too thank you so much we've like can we give you a hug yes oh thank you so much I don't have any on. This was really fun. Thank you for it. Because I was like listening back as well. They're really funny. And I just love the way you speak to people. You know, one of Vittorio as well.

Because I have, he's just such a sweet man. He's so lovely. But he's also just hearing him speak about everything in his life. Well, it's been so, you've been amazing and we've loved having you. Raymond. Well, you say goodbye to Mary Elaine. His pot is just dangling down. He's so precious. Raymond say goodbye. Hey, bye Raymond. I like your stories. Raymond. Oh, do you not with years. I don't know if what I should do. Do you want to go to Shetland? Do you want to go out to Shetland?

You can get your own, you can get pet-friendly cabins on the boat so you can be in the same cabin together. Raymond will go to Shetland and make the planes. Or would you fly, Raymond? I feel like you'd be in a plane first class. Excuse me, private. Have a plane for Raymond.

Bye! Bye, Raymond. I really hope you enjoyed that episode of Walking the Dog. We'd love it if you subscribed and do join us next time on Walking the Dog wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.