Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Rebecca Front (Part Two)

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Join us back on Hampstead Heath with the fabulous Rebecca Front for the second half of our walk with her lovely Cockapoo Bailey. In this part of our chat, we find out about Rebecca’s exciting n...ew podcast - Three People with Rebecca Front - which will be coming out soon. We also discuss what it was like going to meet her son's politics teachers at parents' evening after starring in The Thick Of It and whether she believes in soulmates.You can listen to Three People with Rebecca Front here - or wherever you get your podcasts!You can listen to Emily and Raymond's first walk with Rebecca and Bailey here!Follow @msrebeccafront on InstagramFollow Emily: Instagram - @emilyrebeccadeanX - @divine_miss_emWalking The Dog is produced by Faye LawrenceMusic: Rich Jarman Artwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Part 2 of Walking the Dog with Rebecca Front. Do go back and listen to Part 1 if you haven't already and do make sure to listen to Rebecca's brand new podcast, Three People, which is on its way very soon. I'd also love it if you gave us a like and a follow so you can catch us every week. Here's Rebecca and Bailey and Ray Ray. So the producer has just given us
Starting point is 00:00:22 double-choked cookies if you can hear rattling. Bailey's going to think this is for him. Clearly it is not for you. But Bailey didn't just think... How many times have I told you? Chocolate, not for you. Bailey really leapt up then. Almost like a dog that sometimes gets fed from the table.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Almost like that. Ray's being very good. Well, you say that he's currently... He's shaking with green. Yeah. Yeah, there's a look of anticipation. But Bailey just goes for it. No chocolate, Ray.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It's bad for you, my love. When Bailey was quite young. I'm probably about three. I had come in from rehearsals and I had some dark chocolate in my bag and there was one bit left over. I came from rehearsals. I'm going to blame my husband for this
Starting point is 00:01:14 because as I came through the door, the bastard told me that dinner was ready. I mean, can you think of anything worse? So I ran straight in to eat, leaving my bag on the floor with this very dark chocolate. And when I came out, it was all over Baylor's mouth. There was no mistake. He'd just eaten, you know, 70% chocolate.
Starting point is 00:01:34 He had eaten it. And we just, I didn't know what to, first of all, I was worried about him, but also I thought my daughter is going to completely go to pieces. So I rang the emergency vet as soon as she left the room, just whispering, I'm just illicitly giving my dog chocolate. And he was absolutely fine. He'd eaten so little of it. It was one square and he was absolutely fine.
Starting point is 00:01:57 But, yeah, I wouldn't want to. They did take it very seriously, I have to say, especially when I said it was really strong. Chocolate, they were just like, yeah, you do need to keep an eye on him overnight and stuff. We've had our cookies. You didn't. I'm sorry Bailey and Ray.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah, sorry about that, Bay. I have actually got a treat, which I could give Bailey, and I'm happy to give Ray if you might want one. Did you like a little treat? No, you had to sit down, Bailey. It's a good boy. You sit. Do you want to hold that just for a second?
Starting point is 00:02:34 Good boy. I've got something really embarrassing to do. He's going to have to have like a quarter. I'll break it up for him because, oh my God. Let me get there. Here you go, let's see if you now. The greed. Aw.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Did you like that, darling? Is that nice? Yeah, Bailey would happily wolf down the entire packet if we let him. Thank you. Did you like that great? Well done, boys. Come on. So I want to get on to.
Starting point is 00:03:01 what you're up to at the moment. But before we do, yes, I was reminded of just how brilliant you are the other day because all the things that you've been in, you've obviously worked with Armando Unucci a lot and are things that I feel have such staying power. They're things that you'd watch forever. And I do. That's nice to know, yeah. I mean, I watched the entire series of Nighty Night again. Oh, really? Recently. Yeah. Which she was so brilliant in.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And also, the Armando Yonucci connection, when that happened, were you aware, because you guys had met at Oxford, hadn't you? Well, not really. He was, we were there at the same time, but we, I think we once met, you know, literally said hello to each other. So we hadn't been friends or anything. I knew Patrick Marlborough, Patrick Marlborough quite well. He was the one I was closest to. And did you sort of have...
Starting point is 00:04:01 that a comedic connection I suppose you'd call it with Steve Coogan the minute you guys met because you worked so well together I think it was probably I think yes we all did have certain things that made us laugh I mean there were obviously differences as well like I was always always have been kind of very into word play and puns and things like that which has just always been my something that makes me laugh and I do remember being in rehearsal and coming up with a name for a character that was a pun and Patrick Marv were just going no puns thinking I think I've crossed a line so we were all quite different we all brought different things to the party
Starting point is 00:04:43 like I always felt Dune was really cool compared with me so somehow Dune's references were just you know much much cooler than mine but you need that in a group of people who are all trying to be funny together you can't all have the same exactly the same sense of humour. When you were working on something like knowing me, knowing you with Alan Pottridge, were you thinking, oh, I think this might be a fun idea or... Yeah. Was everyone quite open to it being a sort of slightly collective experience? Yeah, very much so.
Starting point is 00:05:17 No, it was very... It felt incredibly collaborative from the outset. Yeah. And there was a real sense of people kind of coming up with ideas for each other as well. Yeah. And thinking, I just think it would be great if your character did blah, blah, blah. that. Yeah, and it was just, I think, to answer your earlier question, I think what made it work was that we were all very different. There wasn't the same feeling of, well, I could have done
Starting point is 00:05:42 that part, actually, because I think we all knew in any sort of, as soon as you start throwing characters around, there was a real sense of, I think that's where I would fit, and I think that's what I can bring to it. But it's fascinating as well, being there, helping in a way give birth to that character and being there in its infancy. Yeah. Did you have that sense of how huge it was going to be? It was a sort of cultural phenomenon. I think you... Or did you just think this is, it's got something? Yeah, I think it was much more, we all felt this is funny. Alan Partridge really did kind of spring forth from his own dubious Pringle-clad loins, fully formed. That's the trailer.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Whereas I think other characters, you know, took a while to bed in and that's more what you would expect from comedy. But I think we were all so young that we didn't really have any sense at all of what was a success, what would qualify it as a success. Yeah. You know, in your imagination, you think, I mean, I clearly remember the first time I was on telly, which was not with Armando, it was in a children's sketch show I did years ago.
Starting point is 00:07:00 And the very first time I was on telly, I remember the next morning sitting on a bus and thinking, some of these people who probably see me on tell it, and then remembering it was B-Sky-B. And unless you had a squirial, yes, folks, there was no way on earth. Anybody would have seen me in this thing, nor did they ever, you know. But it just, it never really sort of quite gained any traction, the squirrelial. So you don't have any sense. you think, because I had only done radio at that point, you think, well, now everybody knows my face. They absolutely didn't know my face and didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Even after you were on, knowing you with Alan Potter, John, because that was huge. Some people did, but really not that many. You were dressed as characters, though. Yeah, I always looked so different. And even when I did start to look more like me in things, like in Nighty Night, where, you know, it was my own hair and not a wig and that kind of stuff, I still didn't get recognised that much. I mean, it was the thick of it that it probably changed that a bit. Yeah, I think more.
Starting point is 00:08:03 But again, it's quite, all these things are quite niche. Comedy is very sort of fashion led in lots of ways. So people who love night to night are not necessarily, they might be the same people who love, know me, knowing you, but they might be a completely different set of people. So it's often the case. that you go into a certain situation and you get recognised and then in a different situation nobody's looking at you at all I mean I remember when my son started
Starting point is 00:08:35 doing O-level policy that was dating me wasn't it but when he when he started learning politics of course the politics teachers all loved think of it and he said he remembered coming into the classroom one day very early on and there was a freeze frame of my face because they were about to show a little bit of the thick of it to illustrate some point. And he said, you walked in and all his friends started laughing. And the teacher was going, oh, have you seen this? Have you seen this? And his friends are going, that's all his mom. So in a situation like that, obviously, parents evening was very good for my ego. Because the politics teachers were sort of, you know, all kind of jostling around.
Starting point is 00:09:16 But, you know, talking to the PE teacher or something, they didn't know who I was. It's just, it just depends what people like and if you happen to be in a show that they like then they're going to love it and not but you know they're not remotely interested or they don't recognise you at all if not as an actor i think you've got that i remember someone once called philip seymour hoffman god rest of soul the grand larcenist that's brilliant put him in town to mr ripley's however long he's on screen for he's kind of all you think about when you come away he's just phenomenal I think you were a bit of a grand larsenist oh I love that I love that I tend to think funnily enough the opposite I think
Starting point is 00:10:04 one of the things that makes me employable is that I'm quite good at sort of blending in with the rest of the team I always think I'm very much a team player so even if I'm playing quite a big character I'll try to play them in support of all the other characters on screen because I just think that's what makes it funnier I prefer that. If I'm watching a show, I like to feel like everybody's pulling together. I sound really kind of Margaret Rutherford. Go on, girls, pull together. Let's all pull together now, shall we? Playing as a team. But I do think that it works better that way. So that's how I like to imagine that I'm there, you know, doing my thing, but at the same time helping other people
Starting point is 00:10:47 to do their things, so everybody's working at their best. It's getting a bit irritating. Now, where is your ego? Oh, it's there. Trust me, it's there. Now, Bailey, can I have my last slope of coffee without you pulling away? Let's see. Well, even if it is there, I think, you know, whoever, someone once said, sign of good parenting, the child has no desire to be famous. Now, I think you're someone who doesn't clearly, and perhaps unusually for some areas of performing,
Starting point is 00:11:20 you strike me as someone who was never really interested in fame. It was always about the work. Don't get me wrong. Fame is, it can be really nice when it happens. It can be very, very flattering. What are the nice things? Well, I suppose if people like, obviously, if people hate what you're doing,
Starting point is 00:11:40 then fame is the worst thing in the world. But if people like it, then it's great, you know, to have people coming up to you randomly and saying, I thought you were really funny in that thing or I love that show or, you know, that's the show that my girlfriend and I bonded over or something like that. So those sort of things are lovely. So it is nice to be recognised, but I just think it doesn't matter to me that much. I think it's just not really what I'm in it for.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I enjoy working. I enjoy being around creative people and laughing a lot in rehearsals. and I am really one of those people who just feels grateful that I'm doing a thing I love doing. Right, Ray. He can get a bit frightened of bikes. I say that, Rebecca. It's actually me that's a bit frightened of bikes. Well, I'm not surprised because he's quite low to the ground, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:12:36 No offence, Raymond. Bailey, come on, sweetie. Come on. Come on, Ray. So I want to talk about what you're up to at the moment. Yes. I love the sound of this podcast. I'm encroaching on your terracly.
Starting point is 00:12:51 what it is is I get famous people and I ask them to walk with their dogs. And what do you think? Do you think it will fly? I mean, it might just work. I don't think you do anything like that. But I have to say, there are some that would, which we'll discuss our bear. Oh, really? Okay, yeah, I want names.
Starting point is 00:13:11 But you know, someone once said to me, whenever someone copies you, congratulations, you won. Yeah. I think it's a really nice way to look at it. It's so really annoying, though, isn't it? Let's be honest, it's really annoying. I always used to get so fed up with that thing, you know, when you've got a group of friends at school
Starting point is 00:13:29 and suddenly they're all interested in the one thing that you thought was really unique about you. But anyway, let's talk about my podcast. Yes. Now, what happened was... So many things in my life, including having a dog, are my husband's idea. And because Phil's just one of these people
Starting point is 00:13:47 who comes up with really good ideas all the time. And we should say he's a... writer and... Yeah, right. He was a producer for a long time, and now he's a writer. A lot of my favourite type of things, because I remember he did lots of Miss Marple's. Yeah, that's right, Marple and Poirot and all those kind of things. But he, we were sitting around chatting with some friends.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I listen to podcasts all the time. I just absolutely love all kinds, all different sorts of podcasts. So we were talking about that, and we were all kind of, you know, swapping recommendations and blah, blah, blah. and one of my friends said, you know, you worked with so many really interesting people and, you know, you should do a podcast because people would, it would be really easy for you to get people to come on and you could talk to them about working in comedy or whatever. And I was thinking, oh, I don't know if that sounds very interesting actually, because why would we all want to sit around and talk about comedy? But that's what you do, you know, at work. And then Phil said, no, I think, you see, what you need is. really simple format and I said yeah I know that's simple formats are the hardest thing to come up with
Starting point is 00:14:53 and he said yeah I mean I'm talking like really basic like three people who changed your life and I just the whole room went quiet and I said that is a really good idea that's just a really really simple good idea so that was it really and then I got in touch I was talking to my agent the next day about something different and I mentioned this and he said oh we've got a podcast division starting up. So it just the timing worked really really well and I think it there is something about because three people who changed your life can be for good or ill it can be that they sort of knocked your ego so substantially that you felt you had to prove a point or it can be you know that you once met them for two minutes in a cafe but something they said really
Starting point is 00:15:45 resonated with you. There's so many different places you can go with it. So yeah, and that's what I'm finding now is I've recorded about six or seven at the moment with wonderful people like Amanda Yonucci and Peter Capaldi and all sorts of just really lovely Nikki Campbell, broadcaster. And it is really surprising what people come up with. It's never, it's never at all what you expect it to be. And yeah, I was really interested when I heard this premise, I think what's clever about it as well. is that it gets you thinking, it immediately had me thinking, oh, who's changed my life? And actually, there are the obvious people, aren't there, that you, in my case, I'd say, well, Frank Skinner changed my life.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Right. But then I think about, come on, bail. Sorry. Bailey. He's got lost. Bailey. Not literally lost, just lost in thought. Bailey, come on.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I'm going to put him on the lead because he's being a bit too interested in whatever that scent is over there. Bailey. Bail? No authority. See? Bailey. Come on, Belle. You're enjoying your little session.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Hey, what's this? Yeah, I'm going to bribe you with food. I tricked you, I didn't. Come on, Ray. There we go. Right. Yeah, when I think about how, as you say, it's often people you'll meet fleetingly.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Mm. And they'll just say one thing to you. I remember there was a consultant in the intensive care unit. My sister was sadly very ill. And I can remember... You know when you go into those coffee machines and you're feeling a bit of like, oh God, I just need to breathe?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. And I went in and he was just in there. I don't even think I knew. And we just started making small talk. And then he said, yeah, they're amazing places actually intensive care units. I thought, what? And he said, you know, I actually think
Starting point is 00:17:54 people talk all the time about living in the moment but they're the only place where you really get to see that happen because you have no choice. Wow, that's really, really interesting, yeah. And do you know, Rebecca, it was one of those moments where it was like time stood still, you know, when he said that. And he said,
Starting point is 00:18:16 he said and isn't that lovely perhaps that's a really lovely legacy that your sister's giving you and then he was gone I'm still not convinced
Starting point is 00:18:28 he was a real man but do you know I think about that once a week that he would sort of turning something horrific into well look you've had insight into something which not everyone does maybe there's something you can do with this
Starting point is 00:18:42 and how that that thing about living in the moment is so important. I remind myself of that because I linked that to, I only met him for 10 seconds. Yeah. I think it often is these people that you just have a chance encounter with. Who would you have? Who can change everything? I haven't fully decided because we probably will do one at some point with me. But one of them would definitely be the teacher who got me back into education after my school phobia about. Because she just, she just changed. everything and it was really just thinking outside the box yeah that she was the only person my
Starting point is 00:19:23 parents were too close to it to know how to deal with it and the child psychologist as we said earlier we're walking uphill by the way I know it sounds like I'm about to cry they didn't really get it at all but what this teacher did was just to come up with a really left field solution because my problem was I was frightened of leaving my mum because I thought something awful was going to happen to
Starting point is 00:19:56 her because something awful had happened to my dad. That was my weird illogical logic. Not illogical though really. Well when you say it oddly it's not but because I wasn't articulating it
Starting point is 00:20:11 to my mind I knew it wasn't right there was something not right about it and it was making me feel really unhappy but what she did was just said to my mum you write stories don't you and mum said yes and she said why don't you write a story in our school library which is just brilliant so then she's in school with me but she's in school doing something quite cool and I don't have to be embarrassed at saying to my new school friends I have to my mummy has to come to school with me it's not the way you want to start a new school I could say, oh yeah, my mum's a writer and she's researching in the library.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And it lasted for about, I think, three days or something. And then I just said to mum, right, that's it. I'm fine. Obviously, I stayed in touch with this teacher for years. I mean, really, until she died a few years ago. But it wasn't a chance encounter. But it was an amazing thing to have come up with on the spot. Just, oh, there's got to be a solution. Oh, yeah, it's that.
Starting point is 00:21:14 and she just absolutely nailed it. I love the idea of this podcast that you're doing, partly because I think that it's a wonderful life thing. Yes. It's very powerful. The idea that, you know, whenever you think, which we all have those moments, don't we? And you think, oh, what am I actually doing, though?
Starting point is 00:21:33 What am I contributing? You know. Absolutely. And then you realise you've had everything we do has an impact. And how lovely if someone was listening to, I don't know, Hugh Lorry or whoever, you know and thought oh god I didn't know I'd yeah yeah but I'm hoping I hope that will start a whole community I love this idea it's very interesting though that you referenced it's a wonderful life because that's why Bailey's called Bailey is because
Starting point is 00:22:00 it's a wonderful life is our favourite film as a family and he's named after George Bailey so maybe that's partly why the idea sort of jumped into Phil's head because it is you know he's like Phil is somebody who I reckon has impacted hundreds of people's lives, just because he's a really good bloke and he does good things for people without even thinking about it. If something needs doing, he'll just do it. That's so lovely and so rare to hear someone who's been married as long as you
Starting point is 00:22:33 talking about their partner. No, I mean that. He's a very, I find him quite inspiring because he is incredibly kind, but in a very undemonstrative way. You know, if I hear somebody's sad story, then I'll be really empathetic and feel desperately sorry. Whereas Phil is immediately thinking, hmm, what can we do?
Starting point is 00:22:56 What can we do? And then he'll come up with something. And you just think, God, that was brilliant. I would never have thought of it. And there's a real power to that. You know. Yeah, absolutely. We've all been through things.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I know, you know, you have as well, just with loss and things, you know, family members. and I think there's a real power to that thing of someone doing rather than asking. You know, people say, is there anything I can do when you lose someone or something? And you're like, I love those people that just did. Yes, absolutely, yeah. Turning up with food or, you know. I know, it's a wonderful thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:23:34 No, and that's very much, Phil's, you know, I'm the facilitator. I'll sort of, I'll quietly go along and help him. But I don't come up with those ideas, whereas Phil does. He'll just automatically think, well, she's not going to have time to kill her, kiss you. So, you know, I'll make some dinner and Becca can drop it round. And, you know, he's always thinking about stuff. So what, okay, so here's the thing. I think you find it easy to praise other people because you're quite generous natured.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I'm going to ask you to do something really hard. I'm going to ask you to say, what would he say if I was talking to him? If I said, Phil, what are Rebecca's best qualities? I think he would, well, first of all he wouldn't give you a straight answer because he's a bloke. And so he'd, you know, come up with something comedic. But I think, I think probably, I'm quite a good listener, I think. And I do genuinely care about people. So I think he'd say that.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I don't know, really. I think we make each other laugh. So that's definitely one of the reasons that we stay together. Because I know that both intentionally and unintentionally, we do genuinely make each other laugh. So I think he'd say he thinks I'm really funny. I hope that's the case anyway. Sometimes people end up with happen to get married to the person they were dating at that time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:03 It works at OK. I would say in your case, you're probably one of those rare people that just did meet the person who was completely right for you? Yeah it's funny we were together a long time before we got married so I think we made each other right for each other. I don't think I think if we got married straight away it probably wouldn't have worked or at least wouldn't have worked as well because we were quite different and at different points in our lives because he's a bit older than me he's nine years older than me but I think over time we started to the rough edges kind of smoothed over and we started to understand what the other one needed a lot more. And we became much, much better suited.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So yeah, it's such a strange thing. I mean, I think there was, because my parents had this sort of long, happy marriage, there was a real expectation with me and my brother that we were going to find the right person. But I'm not, I'm never quite sure when people say, I've met my soulmate. I always think, did you meet them or did they just become your soulmate? I'm not entirely convinced that you do just that there is somebody out there who's perfect. Well also it's interesting that people want that narrative because I think there's something much more admirable about the idea of putting in the work and the effort to make someone your soulmate rather than know what I was just lucky.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah I agree. I agree. It actually requires compromise and sacrifice and you know. Absolutely. No you really do you do have to kind of there's a lot of you know, going over and over and over the same ground. But it is worth it if you've, you know, if you've found it, if you've got a good one, and he obviously is. He also cooks and I mean, that's kind of, that's all you need to know, really.
Starting point is 00:26:53 He's a really good cook. Look at this little one. Is that a be shot? Is that a be sure? They do look so different. Hello. Raymond. Oh, you're a dog trainer, aren't you? Yeah. So if it happens, you can reward it more.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Oh yeah, maybe I should. Yeah, it's all good. Oh, the dog's coming now. So which is the dog that you're training? Is it this dog? This one might, yeah. It's quite anxious, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Oh, he's been brilliant, though. I didn't want him to go in the water. I'm saying he's going, the water. And he's got, baffle! Oh, no. Oh, gosh. Uh-oh. Oh, that dog.
Starting point is 00:27:47 What's your dog called Bafel? Yeah. Bafel. What kind of dog is it? Akita. Oh, Akita. That's a bigger Keita, isn't it? No.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Oh, I'm sorry. Americans are much bigger. I've seen it, Akita's like small, but that's bigger. Oh, are they? It's beautiful. Thank you. Yeah, he's a lovely dog. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Oh, Mayville, she's a little guarder. Oh, wow, look on me. Make sure. Oh, lovely to meet you. Come along, Raymond. Met so many dogs there. I know. Suddenly there's a whole pack of them.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Do you get lots of people also who, I bet you get a lot of love for Grandma's House? Yeah, I always feel a bit sorry for Grandma's House. Like, not enough people watched it because I loved that show. And I thought it was so well written. I really enjoyed that. It was just a lovely, sort of warm, hearted, funny show. but I think it got lost a bit. It came out around the same time as Friday night dinner,
Starting point is 00:28:50 which of course was a slightly similar, you know, wacky family, wacky Jewish suburban family. So I think it got a little bit lost just in terms of scheduling. But it's a shame because it was a really great experience doing it. And I just, I love playing her as well. She was such a great character. She was so unpredictable and yeah, I just thoroughly enjoyed everything about it.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And it was huge fun working with James Smith, of course, who I'd just been working with on Thick of it. And then suddenly there we were playing these sort of ill-starred, an ill-starred engaged couple. You often get to play real mean women as well. And I love that. I went through a phase. Remember the pot?
Starting point is 00:29:37 There was Poldark? Yeah, Poldart. She was the worst. She'd never crack to smile. And that was actually just really hard to do. least because there was a little boy on set who's playing my grandson, who was just a bit too young to kind of understand what was going on. And I think he genuinely thought I was this awful stern woman. And somehow even when I would sort of, you know, wink at him in between takes and smile and try and make little jokes, he'd just look at me like I was a monster. And I felt awful. There's nothing I could do. I looked so austere. And I had this terrifying steel wig, you know. It's not much you can do. And that's a, it's a lot. situation. But yeah, I definitely, I went through a phase where I played either really, really kind of mean characters or real victims like Kath in Ninety Night, who's a sort of passive-aggressive victim, but still.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And I think as I've got older, the, you know, the range, in a way the range of parts shrinks, of course, as you get older. But in other ways it increases in that, you know, the characters can be really wildly different. Sure. And that tends to be what I look for. But people also really like working with you. I hope so, because I really like working
Starting point is 00:30:54 with them. You know, it's very unusual for me to find someone who I think, God, it's not worth ever going through that again. There have been one or two. Well, that's where you and I so differ. I don't believe that, though, because you wouldn't be doing this, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:31:10 No, and I know what you mean. I just think it's, um, But you realise, don't you think, Rebecca, as I get older, I think, sort of half of the whole thing, isn't it? It's just, just be relatively easy to get along with. Yeah, it was huge. It makes such a difference. It's not just about kind of trying to win people over or be seen to be nice. It just makes everything work more smoothly if you behave decently and respectfully. It just does in life and in work and everything.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I think sometimes though it can help you know whatever your background is like I think I can sort of tell people some people have to learn it I think my parents are a bit you know slightly unpredictable chaotic artistes right but one thing I think they gave me was we were sat at dinner parties from a really young age and we were taught how to talk to people yes and that's something a lot of people don't actually teach their kids And I can tell, you know, the environment you grew up in. I know I say this every time I meet you, but it excites me so much that your dad designed the rubber soul album for the Beatles. It is cool, isn't it? Yeah. Now, I've been watching a lot of Beatles stuff recently. I was watching Get Back, you know, that wonderful behind the scenes footage.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I'm your big brother, yet it's the Beatles. Yes, yeah, exactly. I love it. Did your dad meet them then? He did, yeah. And there's a part of me that just every time I watch any of these Beatles things, I kind of thing. My dad met that. What does he say about them? He met them so briefly.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah. But that's one of the most iconic album covers, wasn't it? Yeah. No, it really was. But it was, I think he didn't realise at all at the time that it was a big deal. Because he knew who they were, but he wasn't really, he had two very young kids. And he was doing long hours in advertising. He wasn't really kind of thinking about.
Starting point is 00:33:14 about who the Beatles were. I think he just all thought, oh good, there's a freelance job. You've really let us down on the anecdotes. But he did meet, he said Ringo gave him a thumbs up from behind the drums kit. I thought that was very sweet. Of course he did. Can I just say? Well, yeah, but he's, you know, Paul McCartney's stolen that gesture off.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Is this a double thumbs up? But he met, I think it was Paul McCartney particularly who sort of said, yeah, yeah, that's good, yeah, we like. that. It was a really fleeting thing. He just, you know, went into, I think it was Abbey Road actually, and showed his design and they all kind of went, yeah, great, yeah, that's really good. And that was the end of that. But we don't obviously tell people that bit. We just say, yeah, well, me, you know, my dad and the, he basically made the Beatles, who they were. They would have been nowhere without him. We're coming back. We're going to get Bailey's got to go home and have some food. So is right. Bailey's got to go home and get the fox poo taken off
Starting point is 00:34:12 is what's going to happen, first of all. But I'm so excited to hear your podcast, Rebecca. Thank you. It's called three people, but it's short for three people who changed your life. But we'll have to get you on it. You see, I sensed you about to tell me who your three people were, and I kind of steered you away because I don't want to know in advance. I think that was good that you did that.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I like not knowing. Well, it would be my delight, and I know it's going to be brilliant, because everything you do is brilliant. Oh, I hope it will be. Thank you. I really am enjoying it. I'm having just such a lovely time chatting to people. I think you're someone who is genuinely very interested in people and very curious. And I think, you take that in the right way, would I take it out.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Curious woman. Curious in every possible way. But do you know what I mean? I think some people have faked that words. I think that's genuine with you. So I think you'll make a brilliant podcast toast. Oh, well, I hope so. If I'm half as good as you, I shall be delighted with that. Well, we've loved seeing you, Raymond. Bye-bye, gorgeous, Raymond.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You're very cute. Bailey, it's been lovely seeing you, Bailey. You're going to jump up and get mud all over Emily's coat again. You're going to say goodbye, Bailey. Bye-bye. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's enough of that. Okay, lovely talking to you. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Bye-bye. Raymond, say goodbye to Rebecca. Bye, gorgeous. You're so cute. Oh, thanks, Rebecca. Oh, thank you so much. I really hope you enjoyed that episode of Walking the Dog. We'd love it if you subscribed.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And do join us next time on Walking the Dog wherever you get your podcasts.

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