Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Russell Kane (Part Two)

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Welcome to the second part of our catch up with the brilliant comedian Russell Kane!In this part of our chat, we talk about the moment that changed Russell's life, which spurred him on to pursue education and take back the life he felt was stolen from him.Russell has written a brilliant book for kids called Pet Selector! He’s collated this uniquely accessible compendium of 40 typical and not so typical household pets, packed with facts, but prioritising the info that matters most to families like neediness, lovingness and outdoor skills! Hilarious to all animal-lovers, it doubles as an insightful yet fun-filled resource for families picking their perfect pet. You can get your copy here!Russell is on tour across the UK and Europe until December 2025 with his show Hyperactive. You can find a date near you and get your tickets here!Evil Genius with Russell Kane is available on BBC Sounds - or wherever you get your podcasts!Get your copy of Son of a Silverback: Growing up in the shadow of an alpha male here!You can find out more about JOLT - the award-winning supplement, combining 7 scientifically backed ingredients, designed to slow down the ageing process at joltmyworld.comFollow @russell_kane on InstagramThis episode contains some very strong language Follow Emily: Instagram - @emilyrebeccadeanX - @divine_miss_emWalking The Dog is produced by Faye LawrenceMusic: Rich Jarman Artwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Part 2 of Walking the Dog with the fabulous comedian Russell Kane. Do go back and listen to Part 1 if you haven't already and do buy someone you love a copy of his brilliant kids book, Pet Selector, because it's a total joy of a book. You can also go and see him on tour with his show hyperactive, tickets available at Russell Kane.com. I'd also love it if you gave us a like and a follow, so you can catch us every week.

Here's Russell and Marty and Brian and Pappy and Rayway. you were so driven, I think. And it's very, I think your story is it should be really held up and told to people. Because it's very sort of inspirational that that was totally dictated by you. You changed your life and you thought, I'm going to start educating myself. You went back. You did an A level. You got a qualification to go to college.

And then, and this is the thing I never knew about Russell. And I was so impressed by this. You approached reading in this incredible way. You said, I'm going to read authors from A to Z, Austin to Zola, and if I don't know a word, I'm going to index it, put it on a card, and pronounce it, and learn all these words. Yeah, correct. But the part of the story you're missing, which anyone who's struggling will like, but how did he get to that?

Sorry, a minute ago, you were in a ravine with suicidal thinking, and now you don't wake up one day and go, can you change my life? Only I did. And this is how I did it. I wish I what you said was true that I came from me and I decided to change my life. But what actually happened was this six a.m. next to a speaker. I love dancing. I'm a decent dancer and I love expressing myself physically. My stand-up is very physical and I love dancing. First one I'm done. I don't care. Everyone thinks I'm gay. I couldn't give a fuck. All right. And I'll dance and expressing myself with my gay dancing right near the next speaker. And this girl. at least my high at 510, just obviously a model, just comes through the smoke. Bearing mind, I've had one girlfriend at this point who dumped me and the one possibly pregnant girl that I didn't even touch her boobs. So that's where I am at the moment. One girl I'd fallen in love with and then one girl where I'd kissed, you know, like a virgin

at a train station. And then this fucking hottie comes across the dance floor and goes, says, I've been watching you all night. I like fucking shit. that hands me, she's like the same height as me, hands me her phone number. So I get home, we had to wait for the tubes to start. I get home at 8 in the morning, obviously I can't sleep

because I've had one too many sherrys. And I just phoned the number. She's got her, she's got your accent. She's got a, like a lap. Oh, Russell. I love her already. I love her. She's got a landline in her bedroom.

Hello, I'm the boy. Hi there. Oh, my name's this and that. We get talking and it was like one of those first dates, except it was eight in the morning. morning. I just instantly fell in love. Next weekend we saw each other.

It was your lady chatteleys experience. It was complete chemical rave cloud of fucking and love. And she was 18. I was 19. And she was at university studying. No, this was July. So she still says, I'm going to university in September. So come September, when we're going back after a night out,

we're going back to student halls. So I was waking up at whatever horrific time I had to go and sell watches to the elite in my shit Burton suit. I was like a 40-year-old man, eyebags, falling asleep on the train, hating my life. And she was like, yeah, I'm going to,

that's Olly and Jemima. What we're doing today is we haven't got, well, first lectures at 2pm. So we're just going to have like a beer at 11, go to the bookshop. And I started to, we started to have arguments. And I was arguing with her. Took me a couple of weeks to work it out, maybe the middle of September.

I was jealous. Not of her getting male attention. How interesting. I was furious and jealous that she got up at 10, sat around giving it the big an. And there was a guy that looked like me, this Ollie, same height. Everything's the same. Except I, by the accident of my birth, not skin colour in my case, but class, had just been tricked. And I went to, I used to pretend to smoke so I could stand.

in the smoking room and get an extra break. And I went to the smoking room, open my diary, and I was like, fuck that. I've been robbed. That was my words I use. I've been stolen from. Today is the day I changed my life.

It was like realizing someone's been nicking from you. Now, the difference between someone knocking from you and going, I'm going to change my life and do e-levels. All power to people that wake up with a posit. I like the way you sound only one middle class than I'm like Zoolander. No, no, but anyone, anyone who wakes up and does that, fair play to you. It requires an amazing amount of strength. But nothing is as strong as injustice and anger.

And if you found out you've been being robbed from for 10 years, you would kill any fucking cunt you could get your hands on. That's what I felt like. It was like someone reached around and got something that had never been plugged in because that's what suits society. And someone went, mate, check this out. I can remember the fitness. This is a moment.

This isn't a period of time. This is a 15-minute tea break. I wrote that down. I could not get home fast enough that night. My nan always had like sausage toad laid out. Your weeds in the cupboard lab. Sausage toad will be 15 minutes. And I was like, how can I redo my A-Levels but continue to earn?

I found out something called the National Extension College. I sent off A-levels through a box. I thought I'm going to do sociology. I'm going to learn about the thing that's wound me up. My God, I got the fastest A-grade from enrollment to A-grade. recorded. I think it was eight months. It's two years full time, three years part time in A level. Did me eight months. Fucking A great. Highest A grade in the country that year for sociology. Got an award, Betty Boothroyd, Speaker of the House of Commons. And I've not been able to turn,

I've not been able to go, well, I've done that now. Let's obviously a bit intense. Let's, let's undo that plug. Oh, it's fucking stuck. Shit, but I don't, I don't want to be this angry and workaholic content. I cannot unplug this fucking thing. first, first, first, first, first, first. Only person to get a first. Straight out into the plumb job in copywriting. Head copy. I started on 50 quid a week.

I was on 52 grand a year within seven months. Head copywriter. Went into comedy, win the Edinburgh Comedy Award. I'd like to chill out a bit now. Yeah, it's not about numbers for me because I could, yeah, I could be doing arenas and all that shit. That's not worked out for me. But I cannot turn off.

My energy is undimmed. It's an interesting thing with you. because I think you're absolutely right. I can see how your root out was all the things you say. There was an element of anger and that, you know, injustice. But I also think one of the things that really helped you is your insane energy levels, if you don't mind me saying. But where did, but.

Do you know what you mean? Like you don't, you seem like someone who just always has to be doing something, which is like, well, even now, most people would have your life and think, God, I'm a really successful, well-known stand-up. I'm about to go on tour. You're touring at the moment, actually, aren't you? Since January 24. Yeah.

You never stop touring because you work really hard. Unfortunately, you have to take two, three years for the audience to build back up. I wouldn't if I didn't need to. What do you mean? Well, you can't just go back straight out on tour because the audience will be like, mate, we've only just come to see you. So you've got to let the audience build up. So I'll do a tour for 18 months and I need to leave a gap probably two and a half years venue to venue.

So if you do the maths, if my first tour date was in Colchester in January 24, I couldn't really be in Colchester again until 2027. Of course. So 2026 will be a fallow year. Have you been enjoying this tour though? Of course. I love every second I'm on stage, it's like slipping into a bath. But the only thing I would say is, yeah, I've always was the funny one and the first one of the dance were on loads of energy.

But I was doing nothing before that moment. I wasn't motivated. I wasn't exercising. I wasn't doing any. I had so you don't just suddenly develop energy at 21 years old. It's impossible. Something happened that like a nervous breakdown, but whatever the opposite of that is, a nervous connection. I don't know what you would call it. My brain pathology switched over. Something happened. Something snapped. I physically felt it snapped. Another person might have killed themselves or gone into a spiral or got

depression or got schizophrenia and gone that way. But I can't be the only one that's had a nervous break up or nervous. I wonder what do we call it? Nervous connect. You know, is it in, I can't remember which one. It might be Jerry Maguire when, you know, he's still up and coming. He looks through, they look through and see the business class and first class passengers. And they put, and the curtain suddenly gets pulled across and they just get this tantalizing glimpse of what's going on back there and the champagne being poured and everyone laughing. And then there's babies screaming back there. And I think she says something like, you know,

I used to think that was just a better class, but it's a better life. Yeah. And I wonder if there was that sense of the curtain being pulled back and thinking, not for 21 years. I just thought, oh, there's posh people. They're there, other tofts, and there's us. And I was cool with it.

I promise you, I was cool as fuck. But then someone tapped me on the shoulder and went, you're supposed to be, you could be one of those. They just don't want you to know how to do it because there's only so many spaces. And I was like, what do you mean? I could be one. We've got to do you study really hard.

You've just got to study harder than someone more intelligent than you. And you'll still get a better grade than the cleverer person. It's like, well, let me try that. So I tried that for a week and I was like, it's got an A grade on my first. It's true. So if you apply, if you. But why is that? It's because you've got the grafting.

You have got that. You have got the graft. It was fueled. It was fueled by the deceit being exposed. Of course. It's like someone surviving cancer who before they survived cancer had a normal amount of energy, but afterwards stays on the road till they're 80 doing 100 lectures a week because they're so happy to be alive. Now, they've not physiologically changed.

Where does that energy come from? Where? That's what happened to me. It was one, honestly, I went to bed one night, one person, and I went to bed the next night, another person. And then I achieved all the things I've achieved with small, incremental, manageable goals, a sociology essay, a sociology exam placement, an A level. A shit university, because that's all that's going to take me on one A level is a 21 year old, but I'm going to fucking, they're never going to have seen someone like me. So I'm average intelligence. Every, every IQ test, I cannot find a test that declares me intelligent.

Believe me, I've tried. I'm an eagermaniac. I'm of average. I'm not even in the upper 40%. I'm of average intelligent. That seems not to me. It's just a true. It's easy to measure.

You measure with logic, shapes and word puzzles. I'm average. So I have average intelligence. What I have is abnormal work ethic. Yes, I'd say that's true. So I out fucking perform you every single time because I will stay up till sunrise if I have to beat you. But isn't that essentially so much more?

useful as a quality to have because look what you're doing now you're a comic you're not sitting at home as you know comedy's changed for so many people hasn't it and you're not sitting at home saying oh tv's not commissioning many things anymore or this is something like i'm not going oh i'm a white bloke no one wants me right well how can i pivot yeah you're saying i'm going to write these brilliant kids books about pets you know and i've also i've taken my comedy to my socials which so many people are sniffy about. Yes, you're very good at that. It's democratic, so my theatre's a full because I've gone... Right.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a moaning white bloke, okay? I'm just saying while there was quite rightly a remix, I'm very left wing, so I agree with everything that's happening. Oh, I love you for that. So, but I pushed myself out elsewhere and it's fine. Like, stop fucking bitching, pivot. I love that should, that's a good bumper sticker, Russell. Stop fucking bitching, pivot.

You need the 1% talent. You need to be six foot five to play basketball, obviously, but I won't get you anywhere. The six foot three basketball player who trains twice as hard as you will shit all over you. It's 90, I would say life is about 2% talent, but it's essential. If you don't have it, you're fucked. Probably about 80% hard work. And then a bit no one wants to acknowledge the remaining 18 or 15% is pure blind luck.

And I acknowledge that. If I'd have not bumped into that girl on that dance floor, I would not have come to this conclusion independently. I was at my nans, high off my tits. It just wouldn't have happened. I know for a fact. Another heartwarming story from the cane archives. If I had not been shown, I'd been stolen from, in a visceral way through someone I was

fucking, I would not have made that change. There is no doubt in my mind. Because I would have been too far down the Chavre Road. I'd be pregnant, I'd be this, I'd be that. It'd be too, this is what people don't understand about class. You can't come back from 28. You're fucked. You just can't come back from it.

I'm very lucky. I got off at the line, the train was just slow enough for me to jump off, roll onto the platform and run through the field of middle class and to the oceans of hummus beyond. Welcome, by the way. I hope you're liking it here. I love it.

My life has been amazing ever since. I found that really sort of insightful, I suppose. You talk about this idea of class. It's fascinating as a portal. You know, it's a portal that people assume, and you don't really understand that. You write about it. So, you know, you're so articulate the way you speak about it

and how you feel there are certain things you have to do to get through this door, essentially. In your case, it's, you know, it's education, isn't it, really? Yeah. Class is really weird because I'm a white man and I'm straight as well. I feel like I don't have a right to talk about my story as much because people will be, ah, you're not, yeah, what do you know?

But when I hear people of colour talking about some of the challenges they've faced, I'm not saying I understand what that's like. Of course. But some of the things they say, resin, I'm like, I felt that emotion. What does that, what does that mean? Am I not allowed to have had that emotion? So, for example, I had someone speaking very powerfully about hearing people speak in a room and you feel like you're not welcome in that room

and they speak a different language, you should leave the room. Man, I felt like that. That's how I felt. Obviously, I'm not in there. I don't know. They speak a different language. So, don't give me wrong, I've got a lot of privilege going on,

being white and male and straight. But it shouldn't be underestimated. I hate the phrase white working class boys, but I sort of back myself into a corner using it here because I just think there's working class boys. I don't fucking care what shade your skin is. But they are the least achieving group at school at the moment. That's just a statistical fact.

I don't know why people aren't talking about it. And I think it's because it's inconvenient to realize that maybe white working class boys are struggling even more than black working class boys. So it turns out race isn't the be or one end all. Class does have an impact. And also I've got more in common. I've got more in common with a black working class woman, I think, than I have with a white, middle class man like it blows my oh i'm sorry we've got um ollie barrington smyth on the panel so we can't

have you um i didn't know you knew my ex-boyfriend so we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna have you and judy love instead but me and judy love have the same jokes same sense of humor same social background same things make us laugh so i've got more in common with judy love than i do with ollie barrington brown nose smidey writes about cricket and went to eaton but the society we live in because it's controlled by posh white men they want to they want people beneath them to be representative. And the easiest way to do that, I suppose, is through race and gender and not thinking about it in a more holistic way.

But I totally, I'm glad, you know, I won't work on panels that are, well, this will get me in trouble, but I basically don't work on any panel that is all white anymore. I just think it's wrong. I respect you for that. I want to talk to you a bit more about your brilliant book, Pet Selector, which I genuinely found really useful. Yes. You know a lot about animals, Russell Payne.

Early on, you said about narcissistic reading. But when I wrote this, I thought it would be a specialist book for children choosing their next pet. So I thought I'd write a fun breed guide. It didn't exist. We were getting a ragdoll cat and I had to look up in the slightly dry breed guide over there on the wall. And I was translating it into funny for my daughter and her friends and they were howling laugh. So I was reading the ragdoll and I was sight translating. Imagine your portly mate who lies around farting with no personality.

who's basically a cloud who has his brain removed. And these girls were laughing. They're only seven. I was like, fuck me. Why does that not exist as a book? It's a translation. No disrespect, quarto. Thanks for the money.

But it was a piece of piss to write because all I had to do was translate. It was like someone who's fluent in French. I had to translate the description of a shih Tzu into funny. So I've got one screen open and I'm just translating into jokes. Easy, easy, easy. And I thought, well, might sell a few thousand copies. That's not my primary market. My primary market is you, people that want to read about their own breeds to their children.

That's who's buying the book. Huge fucking audiences on the road. Number one, bestseller, just only for a day, but number one in all children's books. Just briefly. Congratulations. Even Harry Potter, just for a second, then back down into the thousands. But I could still get into that. Obviously, I smashed my chart, pet book guide for children.

And so that went really well, still touring it. And that's for sort of seven to 11 year olds. And I've got a book for younger readers. So you're going around to schools at the moment talking to. Yeah, primary schools and events like dogs. Do you take any of the dogs with you? Yes. Oh my God, they muscle up bringing a chihuahua into primary school.

Pappy, the one who I'm going with now. He's the most showbiz friendly because nothing bothers him. He eats his food on time. He'll go on stage. But mostly it's Brian, the pack leader, and he can have 30 hands reaching over to stroke him. And he's absolutely fine with it. The kids must absolutely love that. Yeah, I've got like, it's made me want to explore stand-up for kids

because I've got sort of funny 45 minutes now about animals. Anyway, off the back of that, I'm doing a book for younger readers, sort of four to seven-year-olds, that sort of Julia Donaldson age group. Yeah. Not many men write in that, for that age group. Don't know why. So it's a bit cynical, sort of, let's put some male energy in there. But it happened.

Again, both these books were suggested by my editor. I was talking to my editor about some other idea and explaining how I'd made my kid laugh about Cat Bree's and she went, right, that one. And then just when we were about to publish this, she was like, are you all right? And I'd red eyes. I've been crying. I went, not really. I went, it's my Burmese cat, Terry.

And I went, I don't know if I'm going to lose him. She was like, what's happening? And at the time, I thought Terry was dying. He'd got, not eaten and not drunk for three days, gone like that. And he was in for observation. But what happened was this. We've got Brian the first Chihuahua. and I said to Lindsay, whatever you do with a Burmese cat, do not cuddle this dog in front of the cat.

Why? Because jealousy and cats can be vicious and Burmese cats are extremely emotional. But the day we got Brian, the only gap in my diary, we also had to go out for a social engagement that night. So we walked the dog, had someone mine to the dog because he was eight months, was still a puppy technically. We went out, had one drink too many, came in and of course you're on the floor. I took my top off for skin to skin. in contact with a puppy and we're on the floor like crying. And then under the sofa, I just saw two gold eyes and I watched my cat's heart break. I didn't join the two dots.

I thought my cat had cancer. My cat was fretting. Your cat was officially ill with jealousy. Yeah, two and a half grand vets fees. But as I was explaining it to the publisher, I was going, And, you know, he was, like, messing around going, he was laying with a lavender hanky, you know, with a priest around him. Yeah. He was coughing up blood by a lake. Consumption. He couldn't even bring himself to kill a, kill a mouse. He let it go.

And she was like, oh my God, that's such a brilliant book for toddlers. So that's what's coming next when Brian met Terry. Oh, my God. It's just been illustrated. So that, yeah. And are you having the same illustrator? Yeah, Erica. She's fantastic.

The Spanish is she or something? She's Portuguese. And there's another one planned after that, which I don't want to describe. because it's such a good idea. I don't want to nick it, but it is already contracted. So I've got three, that's it.

I'm writing about pets, but children love this book. And we get, we get stuck on reading short stories and fiction to children. And when we try and read nonfiction at bedtime to children, it's a bit like,

and then Jupiter, this is all fact-based. So each one of these is written like a short story. So you can say to your kids, right, he wants to hear Borda Terrier. Packed with jokes. You can read Borda Terrier.

You can have it like a story time, but then they're learning loads of history and nature facts. I learned so much through this book that I didn't already know. It's become also, I just, I mean, I love the way you write anyway. And as you say, because you're a comic, you've kind of got an advantage. Let's be honest, over most writers. Because, you know, you know how to make things funny.

And we know that also retention is better. If something makes you laugh, you're going to remember it. It's going to stay in your brain. Yeah, the lube of humour. I'm a big pet selector fan. And I can't wait. And so it's when Brian made. Terry?

Yeah, that'll be for younger readers. Like a Julia Donaldson type age group. I love that. And when's that going to be out, Russ? I think it's April, something like that. And it's all the hilarious grief that he goes through. And he does a protest pool on the pillow. And he has a priest giving him the final rights.

Well, do you know what? I was thinking, because Ray's knocking on a bit. And I keep thinking, I wonder, people keep saying, oh, you should get a dog because at least when he goes, you won't, you know, there's something really painful about having that beating heart completely gone from the house and that you should get another dog. And I was sort of saying, yeah, I agree with that. But then isn't that a bit like saying, yeah, I think I'm going to get another partner because what if they die? I've got to move another one is.

Yeah, but I give a bit more of a gap with a partner. But any woman who's got life and her body should be at that dick tree within two years in my opinion. Sorry. What are you going to do? You're like lay at home with batteries and a fucking love honey wand until you die. You've got to get back out there. I talk to Russ. I feel like I spent a week at Tony Robbins retreat. I just come away thinking my life is going to be entirely different now. And guess what?

I didn't even have to pay 15 grand. Yeah, but that's the space my second business is moving into. You should do that, you know. That's what me and my wife are doing. Yeah, you and Lindsay. We've got another business called Jolt. So tell me, will you tell me about Jolt? Because I'm thinking of getting involved with Jolt.

So Joel isn't just this supplement, which we'll talk about in a minute. My wife, this sort of creative genius, who's had an awakening in her third. What happened to me at 22 has happened to her at 34 and she's completely changed. She's still the same person. It's not like a different human I'm married to. But all of her, it's all been switched online. I think she's realized what I realized about class. She's realized about women.

Even though I've been telling her this fucking shit for 10 years. she suddenly believed it. She's discovered the power of her womb space, whatever one of these fucking American people would say. And she's just, she's doing so well. She's got this new space called the Yes Club. It's where women,

she gets women out for a monthly dinner. She's also interviewing women about the moment they, it's intentionally innuenda, hit their yes button. So the moment, so you've just heard about my yes button moment. The moment I went from get high at my nans to, It wasn't like slowly over a period of years.

It was a smash moment. Right. So my wife's seeking out people that have yes button moments in their lives so that we can all learn. Maybe I've got a yes button that I haven't found yet. And that all sit, although that's not part of the jolt business, the jolt ethos is all about wellness. And like you say, this, not Tony Robbins, because I find him lots of words and no, like,

I find him a bit Chinese meal. I'm like, what have you actually said? I'm about giving people tools and actual. things to do that they can do. Maybe more Mel Robbins. I find Mel Robbins a bit more palatable. Let them. Let them. And so, yeah, it's, Jolt is a, is a, is a space. But it all, it all came out of. So obviously I get my brain switched on late as per the story we just heard. By the time I'd ironed all my shit out, got my degree and become a copper. I'm knocking on 30. And because I don't want to get the violin out again, but because I'm a peasant from a counselor stay, I've never been exposed to stand up.

I missed the thing I was born to do because no one ever put me to it. Did my first gig, same as Frank, really, really late in life. Yeah, both late starters. And I was like, fucking hell I'm supposed to do this. Fuck. Difference between me and Frank, I don't craft really excellent jokes while stood on the spot with a relaxed demeanor commanding the rim. I'm like, Hussein Bolt.

And of course, get to 30, 31, 32, belly, out of breath. I'm like, shit, I need to slow down aging. that's when I became interested in slowing down biological aging. The first, this is what I always say to people with Jolt is do not buy our fucking supplement. Do not waste your money if you haven't sorted out what you're eating, how you're moving, diet and exercise, but it doesn't have to be diet and exercise. It's just don't eat shit, move a bit. Okay?

Yeah. Don't exclude food group. I'm starving myself to 6pm. I don't eat meat. I only eat meat. Fuck off, cunts, the lot of you. Just eat a medium amount of stuff that isn't shit all of the time. Okay.

No processed food. Move a bit. Ideally exercise. But if you can't do that, fuck it off. Hang off a bookcase. Do pull up, jog on the spot, whatever. Don't eat shit, move a bit. They're most important too.

Next one, almost as important, sleep. Do you not waste your money buying a yellow bottle of jolt if you're getting four hours sleep and eating a burger king. What should you get? Is it seven hours enough? Or should you go? Yeah, seven's fine. A sleep seven hours.

You need to be in bed at least seven and a half eight hours to pull seven hours sleep. Unless you're weird, you're not going, good night. Are you? You getting up for a wee. Like a vampire in my coffin. But ideally between seven and eight you should get. Seven and nine, most humans need everyone's different. Nine, wow. Other one that no one wants to face toxic relationships. They will put you in the grave so early. Oh, that's so true. Bad relationships. So in my new show, don't be friends with someone just because you've been friends with Debbie since she was 16. I don't want to hurt her feelings. She's a drain. Okay, she's a drae. Radiation. or drains.

Get the drains out of your life. How do you tell, Ross, do you just say, how do I feel? How are you feeling? Well, how are you feeling? I feel really good. Energized or like, oh, I need a cup of tea. I'm glad that's over. So if you've got friends in your life that are, oh, God, I know she said something

that was a bit aggressive there. I told her about a business I was starting and she didn't ask any questions. She went, mm, and then made a negative remark about it. Now I feel a bit shit. That ain't your fucking friend, dude. That is not your friend. That's someone who hates themselves. And he's trying to bring you down like a crab with them because they fucking hate themselves so much.

We're not talking about people that need your help because they're depressed, unemployed, dumped, suffering from cancer, whatever. These are people in temporary states that need your love as a friend. We're talking about someone that was a twat, is a twat and will remain a twat. And some people are triggered by you. Some people are triggered by you. You don't mean to do it, but they're triggered by you. They might be triggered by you because you're young. They might be triggered by you because you're good looking.

They might be triggered by you because you're successful in business or you found love. Whatever it is, is causing a wound in them to leak pus. And you are licking that pus, right? I'm sorry to say, fuck Debbie off, right, out of your life tomorrow. And what if it's firmly, you know, what if it's easy? Watch. If it's your brother, watch this. Bye, cunt.

That's that dealt with. You're going to be 90. You're going to be in a nursing home. Do you want to be a people pleaser that wasted your life on people that didn't even like you that didn't share your values. You can have different, you could believe in reform. I could believe in Labor, but we could share values and morals. We'll probably still be friends, okay?

But if you do not share core... I think I draw the line at reform, but anyway, back to Russell in the studio. We could still share values. We could still share core moral values. You've just come to a different political solution. We should be able to remain friends and debate that. But once our values change, we're not friends anymore. So those things, I've not even mentioned a pill yet, until you are doing diet, exercise, sleep and relationships, particularly you ladies, with the man you know doesn't fucking love you, right?

Until you've got those, you cannot then turbocharge that with evidence-based supplementation. Right. Once you do turbocharge it with evidence-based supplementation, I mean, I've slowed down my age now. It's fucking insane. We can call you and get involved with Jolt because you do look incredibly young. I'm 50 in a week. 50 in one week. You look about 32.

And I just did, if you look on my grid, I just done like a modelling shop for community clothing this week, naked. Yeah, I did see that. So I'm,

I know I sound like a Keith Lemon character, but I literally am in the best physical state I've ever been in. So it's sorting those things out. And then once with Jolt, what they provide, because it's a form, is it biohacking essentially?

Yeah. So what Lindsay noticed was, I was doing all those things. And I was taking NMN and Rizveratry at 9 a.m. 5 seating and cacumin at 12. And Lindsay was like, because there's 12 year age gap, she thought she was safe. But she noticed her husband stop aging. She's catching up. She's like, I need to get on what you're doing. I'm 30. Teach me anti-ageing Russell. Teach me. So I went, right, you just take these five pills at nine, these 10 pills at 10. These at 11. And she was like,

I would literally rather die an aged tag than do the shit you just told me. And her light bulb just went thing. Why is there not an all in one anti-aging biohacking supplement? There is now, because all the fuckers have copied us, but why isn't there one? So she just went and made it. She said to me, Russell, what's the seven that you take with the best evidence? So I said, well, that's easy. NMN, Resveratrol phycetin, cacomine, lepoic acid, a couple of others for skin seramides, put them in, did a clinical trial, made everyone younger. Aging is like cancer, A massive mountain. Cancer is simple.

A big thing growing shouldn't be there kills you, but we can't solve it. And aging is the same. Dementia, all of those are symptoms of the disease aging, which we do not have a cure for and probably will never cure. But we can slow it down. Aging is not inevitable. Death is inevitable, but frailty, not necessarily. Look at the 94-year-olds doing yoga one day and death.

The next. So all aging is, is two things. every day you need to make new cells. You've got to make copies of the cells that have died before. So your forearm... And how do we do that? You make them manually. But we're analogue creatures.

So your body is copying the old cell like that. We need that's a forearm cell. That's a skin cell. And because it's analog, it's like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy. Mistakes are made. As time goes on, old fucker, right? That's the first aspect. Making new cells accurate copies.

The second thing you need to do, we're supposed to be dead at 40, ancestrally. Back in our caves, you would have had a baby, you'd be dead by 40. So we have not evolved anything in our body to stay alive past 40. So when you wake up tomorrow, your little monks will be copying the new cells, but you won't bother to clear out the dead cells because you're over 40. So they just stay floating around your body in bin bags. So you need processes that get the rubbish and chuck it out.

They're called senescent cells because if you put a rotten strawberry next to a fresh strawberry, guess what happens? Oh, yeah. So all aging is accurate copies of new cells throwing the rubbish out more reliably. And how do we throw out the old cells? Through the ways you've said, not eating processed food, exercising, getting asleep. Diet and exercise tricks your body into thinking it's younger, it's about to mate, it needs to stay young. So all of those processes speed up. And NMN and Resveratrol and all of those turbocharged, the batteries that are inside. Each cell has batteries

inside. It's called mitochondria, but just use the word batteries. And NMN fuel the, the fuel inside those batteries is called NAD and NMN creates NAD. So you're putting into those dura cells, extra juice. And when you copy them, when they copy themselves, they've got more power so they're getting it more accurate. They're doing it more reliably. So I'm aging more slowly because my new skin cells appearing the next day are more accurate than someone who's doing nothing.

That's why I look and present around about 35 years old. There's not my words as most people who are guessing my age. So I've knocked about 10, 15 years off. You really have. My blood works the same. This is open to anyone and you can do it at any age. But I love what you say about the, you know, there's no point just taking supplements and thinking, okay, I'll just sit in the chair and watch pointless and wait for the years to drop off. That's not going to happen.

You can't take a bill on top of a Burger King and a depression. Right. Won't do anything. You're adding, you're putting fuel into a Ferrari that isn't there. So you've got to sort all those other things. Turn yourself into a Ferrari and then get the best fuel for it. And the best fuel is the best food you can afford or at least whole food. As much as you like, all fats, all of them, but whole, not processed.

And evidence-based supplementation. The cheapest or least expensive way to do that is our product. We've gone out. We've found the best NMN. We found that it's all third party verified, meaning someone with a clipboard's gone. Yeah, they're not lying. That's in there. And it's $1.99 a day.

Oh, I can't afford it. that, but you're fucking wank that out on a coffee on the way to work. So it's $199 a day and we've got 80% customer retention. Speak to our customers. Well, do you know what? I've started. I've started being much more vigilant just about doing something daily on the exercise front. Cut out all processed food. Need to work on my sleep a little bit. But I think I'm nearly, I'm going to be nearly ready for Jolt, I think. You're ready. Yeah. I'm honestly, I think it's brilliant that you're doing this. If you could wake up tomorrow and you had to do two things. Start, start, smoking 10 cigarettes a day, but take up an exercise regime or just simply not exercise,

you are much more likely to die doing the second one. A smoker who does everything I've just said is healthier than a non-smoker who does nothing. Oh my God. And yeah, everyone sits around with their fucking packet of digestive biscuits watching IT go, smoking. Imagine doing that to yourself. You are literally less healthy than a socially engaged well smoker. that's how fucking deadly it is.

You're knocking 20 years of your life. Not exercising. Yeah. And people are like, well, I don't want those 20 years sat around in a nursing house. Have you seen 70-year-olds that take care of it? Have you seen 50-year-olds? Yeah. If you just said to me, I don't want to be like going to the gym when I'm 50,

what's the point? I'll be 50. Dude, I'm about to go to Ibiza. Yeah. I'm living my best. I know. I want it. Jane Fonder all the way.

But anyone can get unlucky. Anyone get unlucky. I could have multiple sclerosis. I could have cancer. Of course. fire truck, all of those things, but I'm just playing the numbers. I'm reducing. Yeah, absolutely.

Russell Kane, I adore you. You're not only very inspiring person to chat to. And I would move to your cult if you choose to set it up. I would be a fully fledged member. We have set it up. It's called Joel or if you're a girl, check out the yes button because so many women do not press that yes button. They go to the nursing home.

One of the saddest things I hear from women is once I got into my 50s and 60s, I didn't give a shit anymore. Why wait till you're 60? Imagine being 25 and not giving a fuck. Do you know what you'll achieve, lady? And also it's a really key thing. It's interesting when you talked about Lindsay's age because I think, you know, someone who's on HRT now, you look back at those years and you think those 30s and 40s are such key years. when you're pre-menopause, those are big years in terms of taking care of your health and all that. I could talk to you for hours.

Menopause, by the way, if I could just put a shout out to testosterone before we go. I do not understand. And we all know about estrogen and HRT and we're giving an educated by my mate Davina. But no one is talking about testosterone in women. It is sex drive. It is drive. It is health. It's recovery from COVID.

COVID and cold. I'm going to call it the X factor. It's hair and nails. It's fucking everything. If you do not increase your free testosterone, you won't want to fuck, you won't want to live, you won't recover from colds. So increase your free testosterone through diet,

exercise, sleep, reduction of stress, and evidence-based supplementation. Motherfuckers, thanks for having me on. Russell, I love you. I'm pleased by Russell's brilliant book, Pet Selector, because it's so fantastic. And I keep picking it up thinking, oh maybe I'm going to read about Abyssinians today.

I started reading it as a narcissist and then it made me a better person, Ross. See, it's cured your narcissism. I thought I care about things other than my little shih Tzu. I adore you, wonderful man. Oh, thanks for coming on. For coming on and thanks. Sorry we couldn't meet in person.

Well, I'm going to come down to Cheshire because I adore your wife and I'm a huge fan of hers. So I'm going to come down under the pretence of wanting to see you, but really, we all know I come for Lindsay. Thank you so much, I'm big hugs from Ray and big hugs to your beautiful chihuahuas. That's not rude.

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