Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Sally Lindsay (Part Two)

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

We’re on a walk with the brilliant actress and producer Sally Lindsay and her gorgeous dog, Davey the Hungarian Puli! We chat about Sally’s extraordinary experience on Coronation Street, where she was the youngest ever landlord of The Rovers Return. She tells us about her glamorous love story and how she feels about helping other women by extending the ladder. Sally’s latest project - The Madame Blanc Mysteries is an absolute must watch. In this part of our chat, Sally discusses how important representation was for her int the production of the show, how they created the magic of the south of France and how she creates characters with integrity. You can stream the new series on 5 - and you can catch new episodes on Channel 5 at 9pm on Thursdays!Follow @sallylindsay73 on InstagramFollow @madameblancofficial on InstagramFollow Emily: Instagram - @emilyrebeccadeanX - @divine_miss_emWalking The Dog is produced by Faye LawrenceMusic: Rich Jarman Artwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Part 2 of Walking the Dog with the wonderful Sally Lindsay and her Hungarian Pooley Davy. Do go back and listen to Part 1 if you haven't already and do, by the way, catch Sally in the brand new series of the Mad and Blanc mysteries because you'll love it. You can catch it on Channel 5 on Thursdays at 9pm. I'd also love it if you gave us a like and a follow so you can catch us every week. Here's Sally and Davy and Maywe. With Coronation Street, I'm fascinated by how... What an extraordinary training doing something like that probably is for an actor. I learnt everything.

Really? Everything. I learnt from talking about strong women that you're... No darling. Betty Driver. So Betty Driver was a dear friend but she was also so generous and she ran that bar and the pub like if she with happiness and joy and it trickles down and that's what I've learnt. you know if you're all right everyone else will be all right because they they take your lead and i took

her lead and she was just kind and generous and funny massive steen seats scene steamer because she's the funniest person she was the grand larseness she was the philip seymour hoffman of oh totally yeah she just she'd come in she'd drive in because she only drove she only used to do half days and she'd come in at 12 o'clock she'd drive her own honda in i know and she's driving and she'd come in and do this thing she'd had one line at the end and we'd go oh there go, it was completely pointless. She's just stolen it. And then she'd, and she didn't even have those glasses she wore were clear. Because she'd had her eyes lasered at 85. That was the kind of, that was the kind of girl she was. What happened? Didn't, um, Julie Goody? He played Brent Lynch,

wasn't she, didn't she remove a leopard skin shirt or something? She did, yeah, she did. What happened? You had a leopard print? I said that in a recent. I've never told anyone that before and I said, and I told, so I think I did an interview. I think it's, I think it's sort of You know, I mean, don't get me wrong. I admire her massively what she did to the show. But when she started back, I think it was such a different way of doing it because we were filming like four or five shows a week and it was just a machine and you had to sort of be on top of it all the time.

So the guys that had been there, like Sue Nichols and William Roach, gorgeous people and Barbara Knox, they'd grown up with it, you see. So they'd never left, so they got used to it. And then she came back. And she just didn't get it. She didn't get the house quick it was. So she was like, and then she was,

and then I think she got insecure. Of course. So I remember going down, because I used to put Sally Whitaker's clothes in my budge by accident. And she's like a size eight or something. So I used to go down with my little tiny little top. And I just go to say, look at the colour child. So should I have this for this ep?

And I'd recently gone out that weekend and bought, it was a time where, early 2000s where everyone was, Zicigigar, it was all the leopard's spin and, you know, and it was all that. And zebra print and everything. And I'd brought all these little tops for Shelley because when I was shopping, I'd shop for Shelley as well

in her style because I'd shop how much, I was quite real about it, how much she would earn as a bar made, what she'd have over. So it was all sale stuff, but it was all, whatever. So I bought these little and I came down to say, what's happened to those leopard skin? What's happened to that? Zebri print. And they were all looking.

at the floor and I went, what? And he went, oh, we had to take it out because Julie wasn't really happy about you having an apple. And I remember just roaring going, okay, here we go. But she was only there two weeks and then she left. It was very funny. It was very funny. I remember thinking, and not being remotely bothered. I remember thinking, I'm just not a jealous type, so I didn't really care. As long as I've got a job, I don't care. She can put me in what she wants I don't care. But then that's interesting because that attitude that you've got it can go a long way in this industry which is you know Catherine Ryan always has this thing where she says I'm not I live here for 21 years yeah I live here yeah I live around the corner

hello darling oh thank you um um everyone thinks I've in Manchester yeah everyone's going what are you and I go just the 21 years. You are very needed today. Catherine, I love Catherine. Oh, do you like it? She has a thing, which is, it's all right, Raywe. Well, I'm in absolute awe of any female stand up anyway. I'm absolute awe of them.

She's like you, though. She really, she's all about, she likes helping other women. Oh, totally. You know, she extends the ladder. Absolutely. She has a thing, which I think is probably how I imagine you at work, which is I love. Her thing.

is cause no trouble but take no shit. Absolutely. That's completely me. That's absolutely completely me. And also, if there is somebody causing shit on set or there's somebody, you know, some actors you get and they'll start a fight in an empty room because that's their ego. What you do is I think, because you've got a culture on set

of being completely down to earth and everybody and employees, they just don't. It just doesn't happen because they know they're going to look idiots. So some people I've worked with, and I've gone, oh, they're really nice, what's that? And they're just, like, in other jobs, making makeup girls cry. And you go, really? And it's a culture thing. It's a culture thing because they don't, they know they're going to look stupid.

I mean, there's only a few examples of that. And to be fair, those days are gone now because the ego is no, there's no room for ego. There's no money for ego anymore because it's shooting, so hard. So it doesn't really happen that often. It does so now and again. You're very, are you quite direct, Sally? Like with your friends are you direct? If you've got a problem with someone or you're upset,

would you call them and say, I'm a bit pissed off with you? Weirdly, I don't have friends that I'm ever pissed off with. But are you good? So, let's say, I know a better example. Oh, hang on me, yeah. Go on, if a neighbour was making noise and you wanted them to be quiet. Oh, yeah, yeah. Go ahead and say, yeah.

I wouldn't think I have anything of that. Really? Yeah. Is that bad? No, I think. I'm absolutely in awe of people. Oh, for example, if somebody's got their phone on in a restaurant, I'll go over. What are you?

And I'll say, have you got any earphones? And they'll go, what? And I'll go, I can hear you. Like, I don't really want to hear pepper pig when I'm eating the dinner. You know, and that's my one bug bear of this modern life. And I must admit, that's a door I've gone through in the last sort of 10 years. I probably wouldn't have done it 10 years ago. But now I just don't care because I just go, you are.

I don't do it on a train because you don't know what people. we're going to do on a train and I'll just have my earphones in. But when I sit down and I'm paying in a restaurant and you've got some kid watching a cartoon at high... That is the thing that I find so unbelievably entitled and rude.

I just never do that. I mean, my poor boys, if they've got the phone out in the restaurant when they've finished eating, they're allowed the phone and then... If a noise comes out of it, they look at me and go, I've over-egged that podding a bit.

I want to discuss Madame Blanc, which is now... We're about to have, I've been waiting for this, because I'm a huge fan of this show. Oh, I'm so chuffed about that. We're getting on to it. This is season four, you're back. Yeah.

And you play, Jean, who is, she's a sort of, she didn't set out to be a crime solver working for the police. But she's actually an antiques and valuable expert, isn't she? Yeah. And she's living in, it's the south of France, it's setting, but it's filmed in Malta. In Gozo, yeah. So we film it in an island, which is north of, um, of Malta called Gozo, which is unbelievably looks like the South of France in the 50s.

Yeah, it really does. It really does. So we're very lucky like that. The light is beautiful. Everybody looks beautiful. It's such a great place to film and the people are great. And everybody's really lazily. English.

Oh, look at this one. English is their first language. So one of their main languages. so it's just dead convenient and it's one of those dramas Sally that the reason that I like it is because well there are a number of reasons I like it but I think I I think it really demonstrates how vital character is yeah that you can have the best plots and it does have brilliant intricate twists and plots set in a great location all that kind of stuff all the right things there thank you good but it all comes down to those characters having integrity and you're believing that they would do that or say that and it feels true to them and I think they're so strong I think your characters are so strong that you've created and you know what else I love is it's it feels ridiculous saying this that it feels so unusual to see people over the age of 40 frankly having fun and doing interesting things

and going on jet skis and having parties yeah not being in a home I like representation. I think it matters. And I remember Lenny Henry saying something about that when he was a kid. And if there was a black person on the television, it was the best thing. Even if it was really portrayed as something not great, it didn't matter because he was being represented. And I'm a great believer of that from, you know, representation of the working classes in 1960 when Coronation Street came out and changed everything. So for me, it's about representing what I believe. It's true. So for example, Robin and Sue Holdenus, Robin and Aspins, too, they play this really hot, sexy couple who happened to be in their 70s. They're clearly active. They're clearly totally in love with each other.

Well, there's a running joke about Thursdays, which is all right. We still don't know what happens on the Thursdays, and I don't know if I want to know it. Yeah, I wanted to represent people as I see them. Like, for example, I've got so many best friends that are in. same-sex relationships and it's the least interesting about them yeah and I wanted to represent that so I've never actually said that oh this is a lesbian couple I've just she just calls and this is my wife yeah and we get on with it because it's and also you know like with with judith and Jeremy that's them being 70 is their least interesting yeah you know what I mean they are who they are they're just really hot sexy posh couple is that it's not like I also like the fact but even though they're obviously meant to be you know they're quite ostentatious and

for hash and they're wealthy and posh. But you know what I love is that you haven't gone for that trope of normally they would be the villains of the piece. They would be horrible and snooty and I love that they're... Just unaware really that they're like that. They're just comically unaware and fundamentally quite decent.

Very decent people and I try and do a backstory for them as well and it's brilliant because they've lived together so long I can make anything up that's happened to them which is brilliant. But what I wanted with Modern Blanc I wanted that kind of television that I love and I grew up with is the fact that, you know, like Coronation Street and all

other things that I've been in, you want to spend an hour of your day with those people. You know, they're like your mates. Yeah. And that's it. That's all I want. You know, and that's what the character is so important to me. And I'm so glad that you picked that up because those rounded characters are like, you can choose anything nowadays television-wise.

You can watch anything at any time. So why are you going to spend an hour with me and my friends? in the south of France. So I've got to make it, they're so likable, and they feel like your mates. And I've got this letter recently, and I've not told anyone this in the media, but I've got this letter recently off this lady.

And in the space of a week, she lost a husband and her dog in a week, and she was just on her own. And their favourite show is ours. And she used to time, when she was going to sleep. And she used to time, so she could hear our voices, going to slip my nose, it makes me cry as well.

That actually makes me cry, slowly. Isn't that beautiful? We got that about two weeks ago. See, the first person I've ever told in the media. So obviously, I made everybody do a massive video for her. Totally overwhelmed her. She's like, oh God, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to up to... Because we were just

so taken with the fact that that, you know, they... She feels that my... You know, my friends are not here. They can't be here every night. So I've got my tele friends you know, to take me to sleep. So I don't feel so lonely and you go god that's massive new how lovely though that you become especially when you've been running because as I say we're now in series four so yeah you become sort of like an extended

part of everyone's world you know I certainly feel when I watch it I get so sad when I start if I've done there was one season I've binge the episodes and it's a mistake because then you start getting the fear you know when you get towards the end and I get the fear and I'm like I'm just going to let it last of it I'm going to eke it out That's so kind I'm so honoured about that. I just can't explain but I think why I love it

back to your point earlier about you know there are same sex relationships where it's not an issue it's not an agenda it's not an issue based drama no I only stretch the imagination it's like actually this is just it and older people are represented having joyous lives sometimes

which again is something that really speaks to me it's crucially it's a happy place being able to have a joyous life if you're child free that really, I love that. It's actually showing... Jean is fundamentally purposefully child free.

Yeah. Because, and that is never mentioned either. Yeah. Because the amount, I've got 50% of my friends, female friends are child free. And 50% are, and that is another least interesting thing about them. You know, because you go, you know,

there's people of a certain generation would go, oh, did you not have kids? And you're like, what? Why does that define you? I mean, no, I have got kids, but it doesn't define me. And I feel that, so Jeanne is very purposefully doesn't have children. Someone wrote something once about when I was promoting, well, it was to do with promoting my book. And you know when they make you, someone interviews you and you probably had this.

And then they've totally changed what you said, which is why I prefer to. A million times. This is your life, right? But I remember she changed it. And she asked me about having children and I said, oh, no, my sister had children. You know, that wasn't my path and whatever. Now I would say I don't even have to discuss that But anyway

And I read it and she'd put She changed everything I said And she said My sister had settled down with a husband and two children I on the other hand had chosen to live a carefree life Carefree Why is it carefree? What do you not have to pay any bills?

What are you living in a castle? Like a pink castle in the clouds It was so odd to me That she didn't even realise how problematic that was So, so fucking rude And I just find it so about women. Like, for example, every single interview I do, not every single one, they've got less now

because I've called them all out on it, like you were saying before. Maybe I'm turning into a battle act, I haven't even realised. Say, how do you juggle your... How do you juggle you? I mean, Tracy and everyone said something brilliant on radio once, and I was listening to it in the car. I remember texting and after going, that was class.

she said oh I just like Victoria will she quote Victoria wood I just leave them some fish fingers behind the clock and leave the door on the latch and they're all right I mean it's brilliant and it what do you think I do you know and that's another that's another thing about when you've got kids like of course you use childcare what's the big evil with that I've had the same lady look after the kids Lisa since they were five days old

because I had to work Steve had to work we're self-employed, it's fine, you know, and you're like, the kids are great. It's just, it's a big myth that you can have everything. Well, look, I wonder if I'm interesting is that sometimes you're being asked, how do you juggle childcare, how do you juggle this with children by a man who's sitting in a studio or interviewing in a hotel room or whatever, and you think, well, how do you juggle child care? Can you eat that, darling? Do you know what I mean? It's like, no one would ask you that. Well, for example, so my husband has been like a very prominent musician for 40 years. We should say.

And can I just add, does the theme music, which is in my head on a loop from Adam Blanc. Yeah, so Chris Haig is... And your husband is Steve White, we should say. Steve White, the drummer, yeah. He was with the style council and Weller for many years. Yeah. But yeah, he's, him and Chris. Yeah, they did the theme tune.

Chris Haig is... He's part of... Such a cool thing to, like... Yeah, so it's a family affair. How did you meet, by the way, you and Steve? Basically. Basically, he said his... He's always been, apart from Weller, he always had his own bands because he's a master drummer, so it browned him.

So he was in this band called The Players, which was drum bass kind of thing. And they were coming over to Manchester and his best friend, oh, sorry, his manager was best friends with our new producer in Coronation Street. Tony Wood, who's still a mate now. And he basically said, I really quite like that girl off the, and the next day, I turned up to the gig, meeting the producer because he was a new producer and he was sacking everyone. on. It was a nightmare. I thought I'd been sat. I thought I was being sacked. And I turned up with this gig and he was mortified. He was so embarrassed that it was even, you know, taken. Anyway, so we met then, but we didn't really get together for about six months because he was touring. We kept in touch and then we got really serious about six months later because it was just circumstance.

It was, he was in London and, yeah. Did you have a good feeling as soon as you met him? Did you think, oh, I loved, yeah. he was so beautiful I mean he's got such a great smile and he was so mortified and he was so lovely and yeah I did definitely but it wasn't I wouldn't say it was like love at first sight he says it is but I was I was a bit more well I was the thing is I was riding the crest of the way I was like landlady the roe was the youngest one ever I was loving my life and I didn't want to settle down and um but then in six months time I just you know kept thinking about him and then I went down to see him in a gig.

Weller was playing, Tell him here, Forrest. And he'd lined all the band up. Do you know what I like? Is the way you're sitting down, the way he call him Weller? Just like he's sort of like, Twiggy and the Royal Family, like, oh yeah, wellers come around again. Oh, here he is, Weller. Paul Weller, yeah, sorry.

One of the idols of my youth, like literally obsessed by him. It was really funny because my cousin Donna, and very close, she's eight years older than me. She's the same age of Steve. And she was obsessed for the Star Council. And she nearly fainted. I mean, now they're best mates. She literally nearly fainted.

She was like, what, you're seeing who? And then, yeah, so when we went down to this forest gig and she lined all the band off, and I was like that way. Just wait. And then Wellella was at the end. She went, oh, my mum's a big fan of Coronation Street. Can you meet her?

And I went, yeah, okay. It was like really weird. What, Paul Weller's mom? massive Coronation Street fans. So I was allowed on the bus because I was Shelley from Curry. So I was allowed on the bus. But girls weren't allowed on the bus than I was.

This is such a glamorous life, but you know what? Because you're probably one of the most down-to-earth performers I've ever met. I really like that it's happened to you. Extraordinary things have happened to me. And I still don't get it sometimes.

And I still don't, you know. I do. I get what it happens to you. Oh. Because I can't explain about you Sally, but you've just got this weirdly good energy, and it's very hard. Do you know what I mean? The producers are even nodding. She's tough. She's tough. She's tough. It's that there's a sort of, there's like a lovely light around you. I don't really believe in stuff like Oras, but if I did,

if someone said, do you believe in Oras? I said, no, but then I met Sally Lindsay and I got a wife. I think I would never you know like all the things I do like so I'm present of women of the year which is like a business and networking thing and I always say to people you know don't look down on anyone unless you're dragging them up never if you if I see someone click at a waiter

it drives me insane or be horrible to runners I've seen people be horrible to runners on, you know, on set. I just don't understand it. I don't understand why you'd treat any other human being less than yourself. Did you do... Unless they're playing pepper pig in the next... Then they can get smacked.

They're not gladly ripped your head off. Did you deal with misogyny? Have you had to deal with that over the year? Yeah. I mean, I come from the days where when I first started on set, certain first assistant directors was pat you on the bum as you're going into you know I mean now I'm from those those days and it's it's changed considerably in lots of ways unfortunately writing still I'm still the minority there's only like 14% of of women writers get their

stuff made which is outrageous I'm just going to pick him up because he gets a bit frightened by big run and boyish they're lovely I think they're only lad she's she's she's just like, go away. Just like, whatever. Yeah, so, but it's changed a hell of a lot. I mean, you cannot do that anymore. And I saw it change in my lifetime as well. So I've been obviously on screen for about 25, 26 years now.

And it has changed brilliantly. But you've done so much for women because I think, I think certainly watching something like Madame Blanc where it really is noticeable to me. How it's like I watch it and I think, oh there's women over 50 and they're not there because they're older they're just there being characters yeah and it's such an interesting don't you think it's an interesting age that we're at though yeah so you're going through you know you're going they're such rich interesting people women in the over 50 yeah they're just so not finished and they're just I just feel that I'm

I'm starting really I know I'm not but I feel that God the energy I've got is he's now sorted my HRT out let's say oh yeah I've done that out we've all we're all good with that now it's actually's right once you sorted me nuttiness out I'm alright I keep saying to friends I'm like like oh would you recommend that I wouldn't recommend it recommend it should be there should be a HRT clinic I know if it was men there'd be one on everybody's corner because it's brilliant well it's interesting because some of my you know I noticed some men and I've heard them saying oh god women and don't talk about anything else other than the menopause now I think

that's because we weren't allowed for years. And this is the first time, like in history, where I can refer to my menopause, and it was shameful. It was like... He just took a valium and a martini and got on with it, didn't you? And what would you do that for? I'm obsessed with her. I'm kind of obsessed with both of you. She's so sassy. I love her. She's a bit like you, though. I would sum up her behaviour over this walk as, of course, no trouble, take no shit. This is very true. She's very true. She's really funny when a doggy when a boy doggy comes over and she just like goes girl if they starts over she's got no grace of like her sorry you know like I'm don't want to let you down

lightly she's just like get off aren't you love you don't do boys dear we love you've been rolling yeah she likes you like fox we don't you which is all right darling why's that darling we're going because we've stopped so I really recommend if if you haven't caught up with madden brook yet what the hell are you doing you can catch up on channel 5 because Yeah, you can catch up his... It's just rebranded to five now. Yeah, it's just five.

I've seen the first two episodes and because we left you at the end of the last show. Have you seen the first two? Yes. I wasn't going to hang on. I needed to get involved. So you've seen the jet skis? I love the jet skis.

That whole episode was... So I'll tell you what happened there. Sue and Robin had a day off. And we were staying in... This is Robin Asgweth. And Sue Holdenus, who played Boise's wife, Marlene. in only falls.

And yeah. But she's an old mate of man. I've always worked to get her in something because she's so good. All your mates are in it. It's like when I'm watching it, I'm like Tony Robinson, that'll be a mate. Yeah. They all pop up. And Paul O'Grady. I know, my darling, Paul.

And he was in it. I know. I'm so sorry you lost him. I bet that was a big loss. It was, well, I'd lost my dad about, my stepdad about two months before. And Steve got me up in the night. And I'd only talked to him on the Friday, and it was a Monday morning. And Steve got me up and said, I don't know what to say.

And I went, well, what's happened? And he went, Paul's gone. And I went, Paul, what are doing, Paul? And he went, Lily, I went, what do you mean, gone where? You know, we would make, did a project, we were working on a project together. And he talked to me on the Friday, he was slagging the government off. We always have to do an hour of that, the last government. We had to do an hour of that

and then we got onto what we were doing what we're actually supposed to be talking about and then he'd gone and I was like I didn't, I couldn't comprehend it I still can't comprehend it but yeah he's a huge loss

I'm so sorry you never met anyone like him he was like the world is a darker place without him in it he's just beautiful person he really was yeah

and he called her the mop. How's the mop? How's that mop? I was like, she's mad as usual. Mad, mad, mad, mad. Yeah, so he always be lost. Everyone, all of his mates, it wasn't, you know,

it wasn't a showbys pal thing. He was a proper, brilliant friend, you know. Yeah, I sense that, but you know what? I sense you would be a genuine friend as well. Yeah, I don't think there's anything showbiz about you in that respect, you know? No. The wonderful thing about Madame Blanky is I can ring me mates and say, would you do this ep? Also, Sally, you get to say, do you want to come out to Gozo? Didn't Robin ask with it, live there or something?

Oh, it was the most mental sort of that kismic this was. Yeah. So, and I can say the part was actually written for someone else who remained nameless. Of course. He, what happened was this, this person had sort of dropped out of the last minute, which was a nightmare. And Sue obviously was, had written the part four. her so she was there and then one of the agencies said look I look after Robin Askuth and I went Robin Asked is he in the place his house you know and I was like I don't know so I went into the kitchen and I said to my Steve I said what do you think about Robin asked for Jeremy and I swear to God his face was the biggest fanboy face I tell you had that face as well James O'Brien did it yeah so he said

do you think Robert do this and I said have you just got me on your podcast just for Robin Ascgris, because I think actually that's true. He grew up, he would have sneaked those confessions film back home. Oh my God, he was obsessed with him. And then, so I saw Steve Strait, well, that's an interesting reaction. He's not done that since he met Barrowings. I thought, right, okay, this is interesting. So I said, right, can he do a tape?

You know, because I don't know him, you know. No. So he did this tape and I'm, where is he? And it was all windy and it was all rubbish. And I said, where is he? He went, he's in Gozo. And I went, what? What? What's he doing in Gozo? So his agents thought we were filming it in France. I went, what's where we're going to film?

You went, what? And it was this really weird conversation. I went, well, he lives in Gozo. Yeah, he's lived there for 35 years. I went, what? It just didn't make any sense. So my director was out there. So I got him, so he'd got the parts

as far as I was I'm concerned, that was enough. And then, all right. Look, she approves. Yeah. And then he, and then my director went round the corner and filmed him on. All right, darling. All right.

We're going now. I'm going home now. And that was it. It was just, he was just born for the park. And him and Sue get on like, the like best friends. He got on like a house on fire.

Oh, it's such a brilliant. Who plays Dawn? You and Phoenix Nice together. I've known Edgey for longer than my own, Steve. Well, honestly, Made in heaven really. It's such a brilliant show. And obviously you're right with Sue,

who's my mate. And keep on doing what you're doing, Sally Lindsay. In every respect. Thank you. I will do. You said that you think, you know, which I understand what you say about Paul. You do feel that when someone you love goes, that the world is a darker place.

But then conversely, I think the world is a sunnier place with you in it. That's very kind. That's very kind. I do. I'm going to go home and tell my husband, guess what? She said to me. No more having a go at me. And the world is an even better place.

Oh, my God, this dog. She's a right old character. Davy? So when me and Steve got... It's a bit weird, isn't it? When me and Steve got together, we said we're going to have some kids and a dog called Dave.

And then when we eventually got a dog, we had to call it Dave. But it was a girl. So we just tried to feminize it a bit. Davey. So when older people really disagree with it, even though they call

like, even that they call dogs like chocolate drop or, you know, whatever, which are not just things. No, exactly. Because I sometimes get people when they go, what's he called, thinking he's going to be called kind of Tinkerbell. And I say, oh, Raymond.

That's great name. It's like mine, isn't it? I said, she's got a dog called Raymond. He went brilliant. Oh, hello. Is that poo? That's it. Yep.

I like it because I think both our dogs sound like they could be Roevis Return Regulars. They could be. Dave. Well, if we've got another dog, we'd call it Chaz. But we haven't. Because she wouldn't like another dog, because as you can see, she's quite selfish. Sally Lindsay, it's been such a joy. Oh, it's been lovely, actually. I've really enjoyed it.

Have you enjoyed meeting Raymond? I love Raymond. And he's so cold. And look at that little face. Oh, my God, look at that face. Davy! Oh, you look at that. For God, I'm so sorry.

All right, we're going now. We've had enough. Sit, we should have enough. We're going now. You jelly bags. Sally Lindsay, give me a heart. It's so lovely to me. It really is.

My agent will be thrilled. You're a absolute favourite. Well, you're my favourite and Davy comes a very close second Well, when she shuts off We're going now And give me love to Frank, won't you if you're seeing him Oh, I will, he was so thrilled

He was so thrilled I was seeing you today And I want to say you come Very highly recommended by Frank Skinner He says, which is almost impossible Well, do you know what? What I like is he doesn't give cheap praise He's like that teacher You know that teacher

When they say well done And you think, oh my God, I've done it. Yes. Yeah, he's like that. He's like that. Oh, well, that's really came. And so you really have passed the frank skinner test. I don't think even I would frankly these days.

So, yeah, it's a joy to meet you. And everyone should watch Madam Blanc because we love it. Thank you so much. It's been lovely. It's so brilliant. Congratulations. Such a brilliant show. Thank you.

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