Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Sara Barron (Part Two)

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

In part two of Emily and Ray’s walk with the wonderful Sara Barron, joined by her whirlwind of a puppy Wednesday, the conversation continues with more laughs, stories and joyful chaos.If you haven��t already, do catch up on part one. And be sure to listen to Sara’s brilliant podcast with her husband Geoff Lloyd, They Like to Watch. You can also check out her podcast with Jessie Cave, MotherSl_ts, on YouTube, and see them live this April at the Top Secret Comedy Club. Tickets are available at https://thetopsecretcomedyclub.co.uk.Follow Emily:InstagramX Walking The Dog is produced by Will NicholsMusic: Rich JarmanArtwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to part two of Walking the Dog with the wonderful Sarah Barron and her dog Wednesday. Do listen to the brilliant podcast she does with her husband, Jeff Lloyd, they like to watch. And do also check out her podcast with Jessie Cave on YouTube Mother Sluts. And if you want to catch them live in April, you can get your tickets at top secret comedy club.co.com. Really hope you enjoy part two of our walk and do give us a like and a follow so you can catch us every week. here's Sarah and Wednesday and Ray Ray. You ended up going to show us in New York, wouldn't you?

I did. And then there was this period. Because did you think you'd be an actor at that point? Yeah, that was the dream. You don't see it for me, do you? I do see it. It's almost rude. I do actually see it.

I'm not a good... I got this audition maybe a year ago, something, you know, whatever. And it was for the guy who... wrote it was it was for the new project of the guy who wrote W1A right yeah yeah was brilliant yeah it was genius sorry darling and I was like oh this is I know I see what this role is I can do this is it yeah this is how I break this is gonna be it I didn't even get a call back I looked back at myself on the self tape I was unwatchably

bad I was so bad at acting like I couldn't believe how bad I was at it so bad I was at it I think... I think... Not what I offer. I still think most comics tend to be better actors than a lot of actors. I know I do believe that. And I can say that because I grew up with a professional actor. My mum was an actor and I, you know, Raja trained, all this kind of stuff.

But I just think there's something about that discipline of doing comedy is so much fucking harder. To make people laugh, you know... I agree, but there's some... some, I don't know if it's just sort of like I've never really, it takes me a long time to memorize or something. Right. So like, I've never really known the lines well enough to do something good. Right. Because I continue to feel like I could and should be a really good actor. I think you, but that's why I'm, yeah, I'm like a really good liar. You know, I just think, I can see that you absolutely, I don't know, I get the energy from you and maybe that is just

and energy that you would be really good at acting but anyway not like I wouldn't be one of those people who loses herself in the role like but you know I could be you don't be that person you know a strong on screen yeah once I get my eyes done oh my god I think I'm a really late bloom around I think I could like be this person with my big Hollywood break at like 49 that could happen that could happen you got a dream big you ended up during this period then you were you were like a waitress for a while. Yep. And various other things, worked in Banana Republic, this, and the other.

Oh, my God. The waitress, though, your waitress era. Yeah. I love it when you were doing that because you get such an insight into human behavior, don't you doing that job? Yeah, you really do. And you see a bad behavior as well. Yes.

I think you see, it's really interesting because when Jeff and I met, like, I was just kind of out of my waitressing era. Right. And so I'd had, you know, and a lot of the years I'd, like, worked professionally in the restaurant industry, was like in New York City. And so it was like celebrity. Right. Yes. And he'd, you know. There's all that sort of meatpacking district era.

No, actually. I mean, yes. But, but, like, one of the, one of the. last episodes of sex in the city was filmed at the Russian I was working at. Really? Oh, I love that. Do you remember when Carrie meets the Russian? Yes.

That was the Russian. That was my place. Head captain. The New York Times is coming in. Who's going to wait at him? Old Sarah B. It's like 2003, 2004. And the rudest person.

Sean Lennon wasn't great, was he? John Lennon was horrendous. Liev Shriver. Man. was appalling. Oh, I'm gusted. Um, who else was just horrible? There was a musician.

Oh, no, he was actually, okay, that was that for the story. Michael stuck, but he was, that was, he was actually, he just, yeah. Um, no, Sean Lennon and Leah Shriver were the two most notably horrendous. Yeah. Maggie Gyllenhaal would come in all the time and she was sort of like, didn't, didn't seem to care about people. She didn't mind treating us like the help. Right. And you know who the person I'll never say a bad word against is Gwyneth.

She, her and Sarah Jessica Parker. Were they nice? So nice, you couldn't believe it. Astonishingly kind. God, that's so interesting, isn't it? Isn't it? And I do think, you know, they always say that. It's like, judge someone by how they treat someone who could do absolutely nothing for them.

yes and that's really telling isn't it yeah which is why it is true how people treat people more junior to them at work or on productions or in restaurants or in shops it's there's such an ugliness to that people abusing people because they can and i see it you know just when you see it in restaurants or shops like i hate it or hotels people yeah yeah yeah it's so embarrassing losing your shit in like a small hotel. You know, you see people doing that. I was, I went, I was gigging in bath over the weekend. And when I'm in bath, I was a wagamama.

I take myself for dinner, usually on a Saturday, usually on my own, usually at about 8 p.m. And I was sat there and this sort of larger party came in. So it's a pigeon. Oh, she likes chasing pigeons there. Oh, okay, what would you advise? Are we going to let it? You're in charge. Hello, what would you advise?

Well, because I feel like you know what you're doing. I don't. I don't. I honestly do. I just want you to make all the choices. Hi. Hi, honey. You're saying hello.

No jumpies. No, no. Ignore her now. She'll keep doing it more now. The more we ignore her, Sarah, the more she'll jump. Then what do we do? Then we go, good girl. Because she...

Good girl. Good girl. There we go. Good girl. Oh, I'm loving this. Yes. Um, so, go on, what were you saying? What was I saying?

You're talking about Wagamamas. Oh, the point it was, it's actually a terrible anecdote, but it was just about this prick who walked in and there was like a woman sort of stood to the side to let this party past me. He went, I want a beer. And then he sat down. He's like, I didn't order that. And I was like, oh my God, you are.

Just this is a, it's a wagamamas at 8 o'clock on a Saturday. Yeah. It is exciting to you to have the chance to treat some people like sad. You know, it's such an ugly quality. Yeah. Come here. You know, she's very attached to you. She is. Yeah, she doesn't like, she likes to always be near you. She's smelling you as well. You're putting your little paws on my flat sternum every night.

You love her. So, you started doing stand-up and then you kind of get you kind of getting you. up and then you kind of gave it up for a year, didn't you? No, I gave it up for like 15 years. Oh, for 15 years. Sorry, I mean, you did it for a year kind of thing and then you gave it up for a long period. Yeah, why did you give it up, so? Do you think you were just... I hated it, I hated it. I really. It would be like I'd be on stage for five minutes once a week and that would ruin my entire week

because those five minutes were so terrifying and so horrendous. And I just remember thinking like, God, it would be so... Like, what if you would, you could still write, you could do these, you could do this, you could do whatever, but like, what if you, if you could just take the horrendous crippling, life-destroying fear out? And then I did that and then, how did you do that? When you say, because you, do you think I'm just going to write from now on? Yeah, and I had this boyfriend who was a stand-up, like sort of. as I was deciding. Was that the clown?

No. No, I've lived a life. Sarah dated a clown just FY. Just as a heads up. It was a guy that I'd had like a one week fling with. When I was still in high school, I did a summer program in New York City. I was the coolest girl ever. I met a gentleman.

Things happened. Okay. He was a clown. This was, I'm like, I'm 17 years old. No, he wasn't a clown. He was just a boy. He was just an adorable boy from Brooklyn. He wasn't a clown then.

No, not a clown. And then, think of how weird this is. And I always, remember it. This is a family-friendly podcast, but there were some firsts that happened. Yeah. Okay. So that's, I'm 17 years old. And then fast forward like five years, I'm in New York. And I'm with another gentleman. I'm a woman of the world. And I'm on a subway platform and we're like, this other guy, Mike and I were like going somewhere. And there's a guy who looks like, Will is a normal guy. So imagine it was just a normal person, but there was a clown nose on. That was all. And he and he's like looking at me, talking to me, but it's New York City.

Crazy shit happens in New York. So he says that and I was like, who are you? And my friend is like, it's a street performer. And I was like, yeah, but who are you? And he goes, I'm no one, I'm no one. And finally, like he goes, I'm no one. Sarah. And the subway doors close.

And he's off. And I was like, oh, and I was like, I think it's the guy. I think it's that guy. I think it's that guy. And so I like look up some stuff and I, oh, he kept going, I'm Mr. Clown. I'm Mr. Clown. I was like, who are you? I'm Mr. Clown.

No, for real. Who are you? I missed her clown. The guy's going, this is a crazy person. Don't engage with him. And then he goes, Sarah. And I'm like, what? So I start Googling all this Mr. Clown stuff.

I find that he's doing a show. I go to the show and I'm like, you think you could get away from me. not getting away from me, buddy. Okay, Summer of 96. Am I wrong? Anyway, that was the clown. This is not the guy. This is not the clown. I also had this boyfriend who was a stand-up comedian, and I just felt like he was for real. Sorry for he lost. Yeah, right. Jesus. And I thought he can do it for real. I feel stupid. I'm not good at it and like gave up because it felt so icky and we shes. to be like, I'm a little girl who wants to do stand up, but I can't figure it out. What do you do?

And I was like, oh, fuck it. I'll just stop doing stand up. I don't want to do it. It makes me scared anyway. He does it. That's what it looks like when you can actually do it. I quit. Meeting Jeff, your now husband, I feel like meeting Jeff kind of was one of the things that

propelled you back into it, was it? I mean, I don't know if you know that, but that's exactly what happened. we met and it was like sort of on our first non-date date he was like your stand-up and I was like wow why are you saying that that's the word that you say that I kind of I tried it like 10 and he was like and he's this I'm going to say a sweet thing that he said to me I'm sorry but he went he'd seen me like hosting something and he was like that it's just that's a that's a that's a lot of competence on stage for someone who does do that professionally.

So I wonder if maybe you've made a little mistake there. Wow. And that was like day one of us meeting. And then sort of across several years, he convinced me to try it. Because I remember I met you and I knew Jeff from Absolute Radio where I used to work. And I remember having a dinner when he brought you along.

I can't remember we were at a restaurant. I know exactly where we were. We were at that place right near absolute where you'd like press a button and they could bring you champagne. And you were engaged then I think maybe. I think we met in 2013. You were getting married and everything. You're about to get married. That was it. So I hadn't started a stander-ficking at that stage. I started in the summer of 2014. I think I probably would have thought that when I met you to be honest. But it just would seem mental that you weren't a comic.

Do you know what I mean? That's nice. Oh look at this. There's a stand- What's that? So much mud. There's a lot of mud. Look at that crow. Oh, Wednesday. It's Wednesday.

Wednesday. Do you like that crow? You like her because she's a bit gothic like you. She's slightly gothic, isn't she? Well, she's named Wednesday for Wednesday. Edams because my son, who named her, is last night he wanted to watch. He wanted to watch Wednesday with Wednesday. No Wednesday.

On Wednesday. Cute. Wednesday, leave the crow alone. It's a bit cliched. Oh, there's a Gothic reference. Is she being basic? She's being basic. Wednesday you're being basic.

It's like, oh, I'm called Wednesday and there's a crow. Wednesday you're being basic. You met Jeff and then we're going to have to mention this because when I first became aware of your kind of brilliance on stage was watching you in something called the Moth. Are we okay to talk about this? Yeah, no, I'm just, I'm enjoying all the compliments. Go on about my brilliance, Emily. Yeah, but the nice thing. about this one is I mean it. I don't always. But the moth. Yes. Oh, you're circling back to dogs.

Yes. And so what happened was you did this thing. I was aware of the moth. It was kind of like a sort of, um, it was how Jeff and I met. Yeah. It is a storytelling organization. And it's, I think of it as very New York kind of, a bit Lena Donner. Exactly. It was like, like, intruding girls. Yeah. And it's, you know, everyone has a story. Tell your story. It was a podcast before any other podcasts were out there. And you told your story and your story has a dog at the center of it despite sort of not being a dog person, which is that when Jeff and I got together, he was very, very recently, for all intents and purposes, divorced. Right. And he and his ex shared a dog.

And so I... A schnauzer? A miniature schnauzer named Lyka, R-I-P. And she really, I mean, and now that I have this puppy, like, this dog was so well behaved. She was a really, Wednesday, I'm so sorry. Sorry, sweetheart. I thought I'd be like, oh, well, look, like, Leika was like really great. I'm great, though, so I could also raise a great dog.

But Leika was carrying a lot of generational trauma in her name for the dog community. Exactly. She had a lot of generations. If you're not aware, Leika was the dog in space. that they didn't know. They didn't know these animals. Oh, no, the animals didn't know, but the humans knew what they were doing. And they said to, like, you're going to have a love, you.

Well, guess what? You won the competition. You're going up to space to her certain death. Anyway. Anyway. So Jeff said to you, look, I'll be up front. I share a schnauzer with my ex. And there is visitation of some sort.

Yeah. It was, uh, the poor. You know, yes, it was, just thinking through this story now, I wasn't, I didn't feel it was an emotionally healthy arrangement for anyone. Yeah. However, I think in, like, looking back on it now, like Jeff's ex, who is now, I mean, I haven't seen her in years and years, but I do consider her like a friend. Yeah. You know, this is like 15 years later. Is she someone who will put her goddamn money.

where her mouth is. Right. I mean, for real. Like, it was like, okay, we're broken up, but we have this dog. Like, there's this new person in your life.

Let me put my best foot forward and be a grown-up about this. Right. Very impressive. But at the time, I was like, that fucking dog is coming back over? Um, Wednesday.

Look at Will. Call her Will. Wednesday. Wednesday. Oh my God, Will isn't the nicest trousers I've ever seen. I know, Will always dressers so nicely. Will. Uniclo.

Uniclo. He's a good dresser, is a snappy little dresser. Yeah, you really elevate those trousers. Like, I'm like, all right, Armani. Wednesday. So tell me this situation, it got to the stage where, what, where it escalated to, Emily, is once, we had our son.

Yeah. I am not... I really do like dogs. I think they're beautiful and they're sweet and I love their natures and they're so cute and I just, you know, the dogs, I love all dogs. It's just I'm dog owners. All that stuff, right?

Yeah. But motherhood was very overwhelming and I'm not natural with dogs. I feel like I could go on about how intuitive I think I am about a million things. I think I'm so intuitive about this. I'm so intuitive.

about this. I feel so lacking in intuition about dogs. Like that's why I keep being like, what do you, do you think, is that fine? What do you, I just don't, I'm so insecure. Someone I would describe as very sort of certain and sure, this is one area where I, so insecure. Yeah, you are. And that's just, it's a shame. Certain. I feel so uncertain about her. Do you like that I just said, it's a shame? But what I would say, the schnauzer, you managed to kind of sort that in the end, didn't you? You managed to sort the Chanel's incident. I mean, my memory

was that, so we have a baby. And then I could not, you know, as a mom, you're already like, wait, what am I, where am I walking? You're dealing with a whole other level of insecurity. And I see these women, women, you know, who have the baby and the buggy and the dog, and they're kind of doing it.

And I just, it was too many, moving like literally and figuratively too many moving pieces for me and I just think increasingly it became clear to Jeff that the dog wasn't being treated like wasn't getting enough attention when she was with us it wasn't good for her and that we were we were sort of too overwhelmed like give her the walk yeah that she needed and the attention that she needed and all of that and it just kind of like faded away about six years in. It took, it was six years in.

To my relationship, yeah. So we got together in 2011, and I remember that it was 20, and my son was born in 2016. Oh, that's a long time, actually. Yeah. I remember you telling it was one of the best payoffs to that was when you said, you're walking the dog in the park, and he said, oh, my God, oh my God.

That's a lovely. And there was, I was like, that's a cute show. And she was like, he's 18. And I was like, what? They can live to 18. But I think, you know, it's really interesting to tell that story because when I did it for the moth, it was like really dialed up for the comedy and really like... Oh, was she okay with it, by the way? Ish.

I think that's part of why I feel a little... She was a good sport with me about that. Yeah. And I think, you know, I can sort of like play into like the, oh, this feels healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the truth is actually is I do think it was two people being like, let. Trying to do the right thing. Like genuinely trying to like consciously uncoupled

in a really healthy, admirable, loving way. Well, I would say maybe in a way that we didn't have as much experience of now in that I think that is a more modern way to do things. The way Jeff and how we're trying to do things, which is why it would have maybe jarred a bit more because I genuinely think that. I think that is much more. I don't know, when I speak to my sort of younger friends

and stuff. I think there is more of a move towards that. I've always been of the you know, I need to, you need to just not exist anymore. School. Whereas, and that just works for me, but that could be cultural conditioning and oh, and generational stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's really interesting.

And then I see these people now and I see young people they're all kind of like, oh yeah, all at the same bar and everyone slept with each other and it's fine. I wish I could be that. Isn't the truth always in the middle? You know, it's like, that's bullshit. It just is, but also, like the, you know, it was more complicated that I, I remember at the time it would make me so

angry when Jeff would say, he would say something like, you know, there are gray areas here. And then, you use the idea of a gray area as a way I'm getting away with that. And it's like, actually he was, it was gray. It was like maybe this isn't the healthiest thing, but also this person is important to me and I want this to, you know, no one was up to anything nefarious. Nefarious or gross or it was just like two sweeties trying to. Make something work and then old difficult pants here being like, does this seem healthy to you?

Doesn't seem healthy to me. A nightmare. Bleepin nightmare I am. I know, but you know what? Oh, God. If that moth thing hadn't been so good, I'd be harder on you, but it was worth it. It's funny. I'm sorry, Jeff.

People got it. People, listen, do you know what? We all got it. Like, a thing about me that's actually quite bad. But I use, it's like my secret weapon, but I use it actually to hurt myself. is I think I can get you on side with my version of events without you knowing that that's what. Like, I think my superpower is like, listen, let's, let's think, I want you to think about her perspective. I'm thinking about her perspective.

And then the fact that I bring that to it makes you just fully give over to my version of events. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. You are the Johnny Cochran. I think I might be. I buy everything that you're selling. I mean, I can really turn people like I'm saying people. No, and I do it as well in a very, very.

Brutus is an honorable. I can see that you can do. I bet you can. Oh, I'm really good, sir. No, do you know what? I think he is so lovely. I'm a huge fan of his, which is why I was so surprised when he said that to me.

There are little techniques. You borrow that one if you want. Can we talk? Oh, what's going on, sir? This is the youth. This is just the youth. Don't be afraid of the youth. Oh, my God, I haven't told you my social media idea.

I was not a shouty, screamy child, so I don't relate to this. You were a shouty shooly show? No, no, no, neither was I. Such a good girl. You were a good girl. My son is such a good, like, he's a good boy. He's a good boy. And I like don't know what to do with.

A bad girl. Wednesday, you have to ignore her. No, don't stroke her because she jumped up at you. You've rewarded bad behavior, sir. I know, I'm sorry. My instincts are so off. Please. So off.

I want to talk a bit about your comedy career, because I love talking to you so much. And life is so fascinating. I'm like, I need to discuss your, work a bit more. Can I say something, can I say something nice about Emily? Oh yeah, go on. So Emily, I think that at my best, I really know how to ingratiate myself with people. Like, turn on the charm, total manipulation. Like, I'll make you think you're the most interested. Right. And I've sort of had an awareness that like, that maybe I'm one of those people who can do that. Yeah. It is my.

That I'm a little bit. You're charismatic. I would say you well. And when I read your book, there was like a chapter in it where you wrote about sort of your parents almost teaching you that skill. And it was like, remember when I was talking about my metaphobia earlier? And I was like, oh, in my 30s, I worked out it was an anxiety disorder. I read a book where the guy was like, this is my brain. And I have this disorder and it is an anxiety thing.

And when you were writing about the lessons of how I was like, oh my, I do that. Yeah, you do. I do like a thing. Yeah, it is a thing. That I, and so I was just when you were just like, so I want to talk to you. I was like, she's doing the thing. No, you know. She's doing the thing.

I do also, it's, but I do also happen to be a fan of yours, but you're absolutely right in that I always find it odd when people don't do it. Because, oh, sorry. I think, didn't your parents? teach you about how to be charismatic no I don't think we still haven't talked about the comment and we need to get on to this go I want to talk a bit about your career before I take you home fine so twist my heart you're once Jeff had persuaded you yeah start doing stand up again it turned out to be the right decision I think so it really did and I think that I think that's what she's going to look like this is

a bedlington oh is that was that another beddington whippet Should we ask? Is that, what kind of dog is that? That's what my friend says. I said, I said it with this is, what is this? Oh my God, I mean, look, this is a beautiful dog. We just got a puppy and I don't know what I'm doing, but, um, looks just like that one.

Oh, he's so cute. We should get another picture before we leave it off. She's a Bedlington Whippet. And I just saw you walk by and I was like, it's very much my husband and sounds dog, really. And I was like, I think that's, I think that's where we're going to wind up. Do you think they know she's really responding to this bed link?

What's yours dog called? He's Lance. Lance. Lance. I'm still that. You're gorgeous. Lance Rock. Not Lance Armstrong.

No doping for you. Hello. I think they really like each other. Is he? He's quite big and chunky. Will my friends don't get that size? Well, my friends don't get this size, do you think? Probably.

He had like bigger paws when he was that size. is that the size you're expecting sir yeah I saw that and I was like yeah that's it oh good I'm pleased I thought you'd be sure no no no I know I know I know I do I know I know I do I I don't I'm generally a small dog person I heard someone do a bit recently about how annoying it is when people talk about not loving small dogs I know but I'm a piece with it I'm that person we'll let you go but lovely to meet you so yeah it turned out okay going back to doing stand up was absolutely right call and you do you've done a lot of TV I wonder how do you feel because things like what I lie to you always think looks quite fun I know you've done that whereas I don't lie I find the the idea of those panel shows like eight out of ten cats a bit more scary as a civilian ever had fun yeah I think I think I have I think a lot of people probably feel like that I have there was one show that it was

Lisa Parvick had a show called Comedy Game Night briefly and I had genuinely a fun time doing that because the thing about like just get up there just be you and you're like oh okay really high stakes and all these celebrities

who I'm intimidated by and I find that hard but that was really fun but normally they're stressful but there's not that much to it's not that much to D now I'm like Taskmaster and now there's me that's when laughing. Oh yeah yeah yeah come come and you're are you um doing

stand-up at the moment always so are you on specifically on tour or are you doing no I'm not on tour I'm working on building up my social media present and you were doing something that I came across which I told you so you know this is genuine I really like the look of this this is something you're doing with Jesse Kaye yep you're working on a project with it with her yep is it like a sort of kind of web series thing? It is currently a web series. We are, have I told you the dog trainer that we've done a little work with her, one of her phrases is find it. So she'll like play this game with Wednesday where she throws a treat and goes, find it. And find it has become my catchphrase

for 2026. I'm like, find it. Just find it. What are you trying to find? Yeah. So Jesse and I are playing find it with our new project. I love that. So it will ultimately be a podcast. It is currently a little web series. And please pardon. Remember when Wednesday was being a basic bitch with a crow. I was awful. I'm about to be a basic bitch in my pitch of my new prod. Yeah. I think at its heart, what it is is content about parenting for people who would rather die than engage with content about parenting. Yeah. I would never watch parenting content. I'm like, oh, as a mom, Are you doing more than the dad? Like, no.

I mean, sure, but like, move on. Yeah. Is it like this for moms? Is it like this? So it's supposed to be giving a different thing to that. Well, interestingly, when I saw your... I kept seeing a couple of clips. I love it so much, but we got to move it and groove it.

Oh, no, I always pick Ray up if I'm in a right. When I saw a couple of clips of that, I'm child free, and I really like those. Thank you. Do you know what I mean? I'm quite a good test if you don't mind me saying. I don't mind that at all, and I appreciate that. I think I do sometimes think there's nothing for me here when it's... Right.

But if it's something... If it's funny, it should be universal, whether you've got kids or not. I agree with that. And I think it's the same thing about, like, a thing, you know, a fact of my life that I've always been pleased by is that I sort of live in this kind of freelancer's creative types. Yeah. Showbiz land.

but a lot of my closest friends are not in that land. And I really like both of us, you know, sharing what is just really challenging about every path. And it's really challenging to have an incredibly unstable career. And it's really challenging to have a very stable career that, like, is punishing in its grind. And it's really challenging to be in a relationship. And it's really challenging to not be in one.

And it's really challenging to have children. and it's challenging to not. And I think that something in the, like real candor, not like, I'm going to be so real with you. Tell you that motherhood is a struggle. Like not that, but hopefully something that feels more authentic than that is. Have we reached yours?

No, but we're getting there. I think, with your permission, I might run her home. We're going to get you. home now. It's been so lovely getting to chat to you. And you know what? I really do love her. Genuinely. You think she's going to be okay? Oh, I just think she's so sweet nature. You think so? I've got a really good instinct about dogs and she's a good one. I love you, bye-bye. I'll see you very soon. Oh, you don't do dog boys, do you, sir. Oh, no, I totally do. It's just private. Okay. Oh, I love that. Okay.

When you say goodbye to you like Ray? Oh, Emily. Is she about to throw up? No, she's doing a reverse sneeze. It's fine. The ametaph. Did you see it? Did you see the emetaphob?

Is she vomiting? What's happening? You guys are going to clean it up, right? Ray is the specialist, but you know that. He's my little Dalai Lama. Yeah, you're the specialist. Goodbye. I'm going to have you.

A pleasure. Thank you so much. Insightful. Hot. The hair. of a mermaid. That's what I was saying when I see. I'm like, it's like a goddamn mermaid.

Walking you around the park. Can you please say goodbye to Ray? Ray, goodbye. It was so nice to meet. You're so funny and weird in all the best ways in such a gentleman. You're a gentleman's delight. I say the same of you,

except I'm going to lose the gentleman in a bit. Yeah, she's a little lady. I really hope you enjoyed that episode of Walking the Dog. We'd love it if you subscribed and do join us next time on Walking the Dog wherever you get your podcasts.