Walking The Dog with Emily Dean - Shona McGarty (Part Two)
Episode Date: January 23, 2025Join Emily and Ray back with Shona McGarty and her lovely chihuahua Cici on the second part of our chilly North London stroll! Shona tells us all about navigating her first EastEnders storyline - whic...h involved her character Whitney being a victim of grooming. We also found out how Shona spent her EastEnders money as a 16-year-old, what led her to make the decision to leave the show - and what the future might hold for her. Follow @shonabmx on Instagram Follow @shona.mcgarty_shoniqua on TikTok Follow Emily: Instagram - @emilyrebeccadeanX - @divine_miss_emWalking The Dog is produced by Faye LawrenceMusic: Rich Jarman Artwork: Alice LudlamPhotography: Karla Gowlett Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome to Part 2 of Walking the Dog with the wonderful Shona Magati and her chihuahua, Cece.
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Here's Shona and Cece and Rewe.
So you got the part, much jubilation, I imagine, and excitement.
And you're 16.
And one of the first storylines was pretty harrowing,
because it was a sort of grooming storyline, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
And I know your parents were kind of involved in that, weren't they?
Yeah, my mum...
She was quite responsibly handled the whole thing.
Yeah, it really was.
My mum...
Sorry.
Oh, his eyebrows went up and down.
Did he see that?
Why are there so many men with quite a lot of testosterone running around?
Lots of testosterone.
Blimey.
Is this where people train for the world?
world's strongest man or something.
They're all Russian and they're all running at full-pile.
Built like brick shit houses.
He definitely, it was definitely cold.
Sorry.
It's quite nippy, wasn't it?
It was, it was, now I'm going to have to do this morning gear change.
You know, when you go, you've been joking and then you have to go, anyway, onto the
Halloween storyline you dealt with.
Coming up later.
Coming up later, how to stop your nipples from chafing in the cold.
No, so my mum was really amazing throughout that storyline.
She was my chaperone for a few years.
Yeah, just in case people don't know, because I was a child actor.
When you go on set, you have a chaperone with you just to look after you and...
Yeah, and make sure that, you know, everything's good.
You're doing your schoolwork if necessary or you're not working longer hours than you're allowed to and that sort of stuff.
Yeah, you kind of, you know, I'd love a chaperone in adult life.
Wouldn't that be great?
Someone's going, no, I'm sorry, she won't be doing that.
You know, that's fast enough.
Although it's quite mortifying.
I remember doing one TV thing in the chaperone.
You know, those quite jobs worth ones.
Oh, yeah.
She wanted, and she walked, went, no, and she like walked in front of the cameras and put her arms up.
And I was so mortified.
And she went, no, I'm sorry, she will not be doing it anymore.
It was so embarrassing.
I was like, oh, my God.
I went, no, I don't mind doing it.
She went, no, it's not to do with you.
You're not allowed.
Oh no. Anyway, but you, your mum was your chaperone and...
Yeah. And the first storyline was obviously, you know, Whitney's stepdad was grooming her. He was a paedophile.
And he'd been sleeping with Whitney since she was 12, which is awful.
So the first ever on-screen kiss for me was with a much older man.
I mean, he was nearly 40 at the time. I mean, for him, he, he, you know, he, you know,
He must have felt so uncomfortable as well.
You know, I was only 16.
But my mum was there.
I was completely aware of what the storyline was and what it meant
and how important that kiss was, you know,
to establish that relationship.
And they closed the set.
They had an intimacy coordinator there,
which, you know, was amazing for that time.
And I felt fine.
And we did it once and that was it.
And it was done in the can.
You did have people though saying to your parents,
oh well, you know, you shouldn't be putting her through that.
You shouldn't be exposing her to that because I know,
I remember I did a drama and it was, it involved,
it had a domestic violence.
It was a BBC player.
It had a storyline.
And because my mom was an actor, she sort of knew.
she understood how at no point even as a child
do you not realise this is dress-up and this is a play
but I think when people don't realise it
I remember people ringing my mum saying
or isn't that harrowing for Emily to be
and she said I was aware the whole time
I saw the makeup being put on the woman who played my mother
and the nice man who played my dad was lovely
and I knew it was pretend
did you get people who perhaps weren't aware
of that aspect of acting
and how there is that very, very heavy line
between reality and...
Yeah, I think the perfect example was
my grandparents.
They were like, what the hell?
Like, you know,
why have you allowed her to do that?
Why are you allowing that man to kiss my granddaughter?
You know, and we had kind of...
My mum and dad had...
had to explain to them that like you said like it's not reality it's not like that
everything behind the scenes you don't realize it's so like you're so she's so well looked
after and everything's explained and shown her is completely comfortable with it and i also felt
like you know as a child if i wasn't comfortable with it i could say and my mom would go do you
know what that's fine you're not doing it and if they don't like that tough you know they'll
have to get a stunt doubling or something you know there's ways around
it but I was okay and I was so excited to be there you know I grew up watching EastEnders it was
my dream job I used to watch Lacey plays Stacy and think she was absolutely incredible and how much
I would love to just have even a small part in the show when you go into something like EastEnders
is it a sort of a yearly thing of or will my contract be renewed or how does it work is it so you
either get six months to a year. So you either get six months or a year. So I was really lucky and I got
year upon year for 16 years. But aren't you, I would be checking this. Every time the storylines,
I think, oh, I don't like the look of this. Like I've just read a scene where I go,
oh, yeah. You know, I would be paranoid. Every time I read anything, where it's like, I don't like
the sound of that cough, Whitney. Yeah. You're looking a bit pale, love. Yeah. Oh, I don't feel
right and you think oh no and she faints and then she gets hit by a bus that's true
whitney got hit by a bus and i remember reading the script thinking oh no they're not going to tell me
they're just going to kill me off and then they had this whole plan about you know how they were
going to set up the little mini affair between mick and whitney and that's how they did it so he came
to see her in the hospital and while she was you know coming out of a coma or whatever it was
at the time.
They decided to snog the face of each other as you do.
Must have been the anaesthetic.
Yeah, so I've had loads of times where I think,
oh, they're going to write me out.
But luckily, they didn't.
Oh, you know what we could do?
We're getting close to the cafe now.
I'm going to let you go soon, but not yet.
That's all right.
I might get a little hot chocolate before I let you go.
I love a hot chocolate.
Oh, especially this weather.
With EastEnders, Shona,
you're also earning.
Much more than you normally would be for a 16-year-old, aren't you?
I mean, I know it's not sort of, you know, Marvel films kind of money,
but it's still a regular income.
Yeah.
Much more than you'd get for working at the local hairdressers or whatever at that age.
So was that something again that they talked to you about,
about being careful with it, or I would have just gone and walked clothes, quite honestly.
That's literally what I did.
I think I literally did that.
All I did was, I think, do you remember the shop, Jane Norman?
I was in there a lot and I was in Primark a hell of a lot.
Just buying everything that I didn't need.
That's difficult for your folks though, isn't it?
Because I suppose at 16, they can advise.
But by the time you were 18, then you're 19,
and then it's just going into your account,
then you're not a minor anymore.
No, exactly.
And I bought my mum and dad lots of things,
and I bought my family lots of things,
and I helped my sister out, and all my friends.
Like, it was just like, I didn't want the money.
Really?
No, I didn't want it.
Why do you think that was?
I don't know.
I wasn't used to having money growing up.
So I was kind of like, I'm fine, I don't need it.
You know?
So I just gave it to everyone else.
Because they were on that journey with me, if you know what I mean,
like growing up.
Oh look there's our friends shown a Snoopy. Do you remember Snoopy we met earlier?
Oh
So go on that's interesting about the money.
Is that always your attitude with money?
Is it like enjoy it while it lasts?
I mean obviously, oh I just kicked Snoopy, sorry Snopes.
Sorry dude.
When you get older and you've got responsibilities, things to pay for bills,
obviously money becomes much more important to you.
You were just spending it because you're young and I suppose, yeah.
because I was young and I didn't need it.
Yeah.
You know, I didn't have anything massive to pay out for.
I had no mortgage, no bills coming in.
Because you bought a car?
I did buy a car.
A fussy car?
No.
What was it?
It was a K.A.
was my first car.
Yes, I see that for you.
That's good.
Yeah, I had a gold KA with Tinkerbell on the back.
And I had a little sign that said,
powered by fairy dust, which was all the age at the time.
and a set of fake eyelashes on the headlamps.
I was going to say, did you have the fake eyelashes?
Oh, I loved it.
Yeah, I loved it.
Anything different I wanted.
What was hardest about being in that show?
Because there was a lot of fabulous things,
and I know, you know, not to take away from all the obvious great things about it,
but everyone knows what the great things are.
And I, what would surprise people most about being on that show?
I think things that were hard for me were when people talked about you in the papers,
things that weren't true were allowed to be printed and you were told that you shouldn't reply.
even though you have the right to
you were told that
well I know you want to make that right
but just yeah don't
because you add more fuel to the fire
which I kind of get
because they've got their show and they need to
you know protect that but
hello
hello
look at you
yeah
Raymond look like that little doggy
oh I love the track suit
yeah that's difficult
yeah it was really really
hard because you just have to sit back and then explain to everyone that you know personally
that no it is not true you decided to leave yeah and i mean i know there's a cosy living crisis
but they could have got you the black cab they put you on the bus you've been nice and said well at
least they didn't throw me under it that's true yeah yeah but come on guys i know i know was that
very emotional filming that scene oh horrific like it didn't
sink in until that day.
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah, until that scene, you know, all my friends waving at me on the bus and it was weird.
And I had a little baby in my arms as well, which just makes you feel even more kind of emotional for some reason.
I mean, I don't have children, but something, like your motherly instinct kicks in, even though, you know, you're not a mother.
As a woman, you just get...
Well, not Bianca's, where was she?
Yeah, where was she?
Where was she? Exactly.
Left you when you're out of need.
Exactly. I know.
No, that was a little, because I think one of the characters said something like, who was it?
I think she said, make sure you get in touch with Bianca. Keep in touch.
Sonia.
Sonia. Yeah.
She'll keep in touch, won't you?
Yeah.
You know, I will.
Yeah. Oh.
I know. Oh.
It was the weirdest day. Like, it really was.
I bet it was.
It was the weirdest day.
and the little girl who played Brittany,
I ran to my dresser room and I grabbed the hat that I first came in with
and got to wear it.
And costume agreed that it was a nice touch.
Oh yes, I saw that because she had...
Yeah.
I thought it had a bit of a Jane Norman vibe to me.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I think it actually was from Jane Norman.
I'm not even joking.
I think it was.
So Jane Norman.
I used to have a Jane Norman.
Norman bag is a school bag.
Remember that was like the thing.
Just like one of the shopping bags
they put your clothes in when you buy something.
Jane Norman was very, do you remember that boots had?
Here come the girls.
Oh yeah.
Like doing your Massey and the Luz.
Oh yeah.
I liked it.
I loved it.
I wonder, one of the things that I think must be tough.
I had a friend who was in EastEnders for a bit.
Oh, right.
I was always aware
even when you leave a show like EastEnders,
everyone else kind of doesn't let you forget it,
much like today when I've banged on about it for ages.
But people don't let you move on.
And I think that's what's interesting,
is that you might be, I don't know, let's say you are on the bus.
Yeah.
Do you ever get people saying, oh, what are you doing on the bus?
I thought you were in EastEnders.
Yeah.
Like feeling that you're in this sort of bubble
and they find it difficult to see you outside.
that bubble yeah I've been to you know you've been on a night out with friends
you're going to different bars and things like that or even having dinner
somewhere and someone will say what are you doing in here and you go having a
drink with my friends and they're like oh well you're in East
you know you don't need to be in a place like this it's like what the hell I
just think that's such a weird thing to say yeah you know I'm like I feel like
saying being sarcastic and saying oh I'm so sorry I'll leave I didn't know I wasn't
allowed to be in in Weatherspoons or you know whatever it is you know I think
people just expect you to have this like air of arrogance if you're on the telly or you
think you're sort of you know better than everybody else and oh I wouldn't be seen
eating a bowl of mash in Weatherspoons yeah they do a great mash but I'm I've
never been like I'm always very grateful for
for what I've had and what, you know, any opportunities I'm given,
I'm really, really grateful because life is short and it takes nothing to be kind.
You're sounding like Barbara Windsor now.
I know, I'm so sorry.
What does she say to you?
Life is short, darling.
Life is short, darling.
She didn't say it, and so am I?
No, she should have.
I should have.
We can say that as well.
We can say that.
We can say that.
We're loud, Barbara.
Life is short and so are you, Babs.
Yeah, we're allowed because we're all so petite, I like to think of us.
I know when my friend lefty fingers as well, I've got the sense that, unlike a lot of shows, it's structured.
Yeah.
You know, like normally in this business, I suppose you accept that, oh, I'll do two days here, to be all over the place.
Whereas that feels more like you're going to college or something.
It's like at university, isn't it?
Yeah.
You go in, there's a car parking space.
That's right.
There's a canteen, you know, you get to know, you get to know.
everyone so yeah that must be more of a wrench than leaving a regular TV gig I
honestly felt like I was like my life was changing and it you know because I've been
there for so long I felt like I was kind of walking away from all my family
that's how I felt I felt like that moment in life where you say to your parents
you've got to stop telling me what to do
That's how I felt.
Did you ever say that to your parents?
Yeah, I've said it to me, Mum.
I think everyone has, like in the nicest way.
I've said, Mom, I'm fine, I've got this.
You know, but she's my mum and I don't blame her for being, you know, a bit protective
and trying to look out for me and you think it's nagging, but actually when you get older,
you realise that she's just your mum, you know, and just wants the best for you.
So, but that's how I felt.
I felt like, I was like worried.
I was like, are you guys going to be okay?
That's how I felt.
Really?
Leaving EastEnders, it was just such a massive part of my life.
And I felt like I was leaving home.
And I had to say, I'm going to be okay.
And thanks for everything.
And, you know, don't forget the good times.
It was quite sad.
Like, I felt really, it was.
It was.
It was.
It was very emotional, but I knew I had to make that decision because I toyed with it for a long time.
And, you know, I am a creative person.
I'm very energetic. I've got different strings to me, both.
Do you know what also you are?
Which I think, you're funny.
Funny looking.
No.
Face for radio.
You're funny.
You're quick, you're sharp, and I think you've got a great sense of humour.
great sense of humour.
Whitney, I mean, witty.
But much as I love EastEnders,
that's never going to be showcasing
to the same degree.
I mean, I know the occasionally
have the crazy character or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
What I'm saying is I think you should do,
you should exploit that more.
Oh.
Because you're really funny, I think.
Oh, thank you.
Thanks.
Oh, that's, I love that.
Thank you very much.
Obviously with Eastenders,
it's like I always think it should be sponsored by Kleenex because it's so like it can be
miserable sometimes but that's what they're great at you know they do the dark storylines and
I feel like sometimes you watch EastEnders and you think oh well there are people worse off
or you know all that would never happen well these senders is like and that's why you know
when people are disparaging about it you think no that is as a cliche but it's true that is
what Dickens would be writing now absolutely you know yeah it's relatable yeah to a lot of people
which is why it's so brilliant.
Yeah.
And it also raises awareness about a lot of things,
which is credit to them.
They've always done amazing storylines
about really important things.
How do you feel about compliments?
I thought you reacted quite well
to the one I gave you just there.
So it's actually something that I call him Bubby.
I know it's a bit cringe.
But David, not Bobby.
That's your fiancé.
Who's with us today?
Hello.
Hello.
He always says, why can't you take a compliment?
It's a common practice now where I thank you.
Just say thank you, even though I'm dying inside.
You want to come over here, Bobby briefly.
Are you comfortable being on this?
Yeah.
Come here, Bubby.
Come here, Bubby.
Come and sit with Ramondo Cece.
Is that weird that I called him Bobby?
No.
I'm just always going to call him Bobby now.
Hi, Bobby.
Hi, Bobby.
Hello.
Why do you think she can't take a compliment and why do you feel you needed to ask her to work on that?
I'm very similar as well but I don't like people comfortable.
I think it's the Irish inner.
Those Irish people are very bad at taking compliments.
Really?
Yeah.
We don't like it.
We don't mind.
We love giving them.
We're just not good at taking them.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's like a, you kind of feel like if you accept it, you love yourself too much.
is that kind of thing.
Right, right.
You know what I mean?
I think that's quite an English thing as well.
I think so.
Yeah, probably, but yeah.
She doesn't need to work in a second couple months more.
Yeah, because she's very hard herself.
All the time.
And you two met, we should say about Shona and Bobby, that's not going anyway, that's sticking,
Bobby's love story.
Jesus.
The love story that started on TikTok call me.
I love Irish people so much and they go, Jesus.
Oh, Jesus wept. No.
I can't do that actually.
We may have to take that out because that's a bit offensive me doing your accent.
Sorry, I shouldn't have to.
No, it's not offensive, leave it in.
Brilliant.
It is brilliant.
So, you two met, and I love this,
because I'm going to call you one of the first high-profile TikTok romances.
Yeah.
You met via TikTok was your musician.
Yeah.
Who slid into whose DMs?
Nope.
Oh my God. Sorry.
Jesus. You walk straight into that one.
It's a dog show.
It's a dog show.
It's not craps, Bobby.
Bobby.
Bobby, honestly.
God's sake, Bobby.
I think you did, didn't you?
Yeah, so I didn't know what she was.
Oh, Charming.
Oh, I know.
Oh, I did, yeah.
Did you?
Yeah.
night of my birthday.
Oh, my night of my birthday.
Oh my night at 4 o'clock in the morning.
I got a notification.
I'd been out with friends.
I said that
Shania, I was like,
who's your one?
Who's your one?
She's the same hair color and it's kind of frizzy as well back then.
What are you being?
And I was like, who's you one?
And she had a little tick, so I went in and I looked and
I just seen videos that were singing.
And I was like, wow.
When he says little tick, I didn't have like Tourette's tick.
I had a little tick.
I was verified.
I was verified.
That's what you mean.
Oh, who was a barking one?
Yeah, she was a blue tick.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I just looked at a profile and I seen all these videos that were singing.
And I was like, oh my God, this girl can't say, wow.
And I sneaked more and seen more singing videos.
And I was like, I'm going to message this girl and ask her if she wants to do a duet with me.
But then you ended up speaking for, was it almost two years?
Ages, yeah.
Yes, yeah.
Hard enough, yeah.
Yeah.
You take your time, Bub.
No, her.
Oh.
Me, I ignored him.
She didn't message me back for eight months.
No.
And I was like, oh, well done.
Because I thought, oh, God, he might be a serial killer.
Well, you never know.
It's true.
You don't know these days.
That's very true.
But what he didn't realize is that I watch a lot of crime documentaries.
It's like my favourite thing to watch.
When I'm feeling anxious or a bit blue, that cheers me up.
I've learned a lot.
You know she goes to see the last.
I do that. I do that sometimes.
I know this is awful, but I watch things and I think, oh, at least I'm not in that situation.
I love anything about someone who's accused of fraud or who's lied to everyone.
Because I think, well, I could be worse person. I could be then.
So that's so lovely. I love, I'm very invested in your story.
I love this. And now you're engaged and it's so lovely.
And I'm seeing a little tucks maybe for C.C.
Oh, yes.
And Raimondo.
He is available for ringbearing duties.
I would love that.
Oh my gosh.
That would be so cute.
Raimondo, would you like to go to the wedding?
And we talked about your singing, Shana.
Because I was going to say, before I let you go, and I don't really want to let you go, because I think you're going to be my new friend.
Oh, I love that.
Yeah, I think you are.
Don't get any choice.
And I'm interested in what you're, because when you leave something like Eastenders, I think it must be.
I think it must be quite hard to not commit to anything,
but you think, oh my God, whatever I do now,
it feels like a big deal almost, doesn't it?
Did you get that slight paralysis of choice almost when you leave?
I think you get the fear of never working again.
Because you feel like your typecast or, you know,
and I mean, I know back in the day,
I say back in the day, it was like,
I mean, when I started, it was 2008,
but there was always such a big thing about, you know,
oh, if you're in a soap, you know, you'll never work again,
and you'll be typecast.
These women.
What's wrong?
And these women, they were kind of like middle-aged, very welcoming women.
I mean, I hope to be like one of those women.
In fact, maybe I am already.
But they did a weird thing when they came out of the coffee thing,
they looked at us with our dog, with our ridiculous small dolls.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, they judged us.
Oh, that's great.
Oh, like it's around too harsh.
they are a bit.
They're like, God.
They're a bit day Maggie Smith in Downson Abbey.
One pray is a weekend.
No, I...
Anyway, so you were saying...
Yeah, no, that becomes...
I can see...
That's tricky, isn't it?
Yeah.
It's hard.
Because it's kind of like, what do I do now?
Yeah, and also you feel like,
well, I want to do something good,
because what if you get judged for
doing the wrong things?
or something that is seen as, oh, she can't do anything else
and she's done that, you know, which is wrong.
And you just have to do what you want to do.
That's the beauty of being free.
And I was really blown away when I heard you sing
because you've got an incredible singing voice, seven years.
Thank you.
I couldn't believe it.
I thought, oh my God.
Oh, thank you.
No offense to East End at this point.
I did think, what's he doing here?
Someone should be in the Royal Albert Hall every week.
I mean, your voice is incredible.
I heard you on the Late Show with your hero.
Daniel O'Donnell.
Oh, yeah.
Daniel O'D. We love a bit of Daniel O'D.
D.O.D.
Irish people are obsessed with Daniel O'Donnell, aren't they?
Well, actually, that's a myth.
Is it?
Yeah, I mean, look, I love Daniel.
Do you think Daniel O.D is good at his own PR?
I think he's brilliant. I am such a massive fan.
But a lot of Irish people will tell you he's like Marmite.
You're either love him or hate him. But he'd tell you that himself.
You know?
And you work with him.
Yeah.
You've done, you performed on children in need.
Yeah.
But I'm seeing you, I'm seeing musical theatre in your future.
Okay.
Yeah.
Are you comfortable with that?
Can we get moving on that?
I would like to.
Okay.
I just know it's blimming hard work.
Like stamina-wise, which I think I'd be fine.
I'd get into it and I'd probably really, really enjoy it.
But it's hard work.
Never say never.
I don't know.
Is singing something you want to do more of them?
Yeah.
Is that what you want to focus on or do you want to do acting and singing?
I'd like to do both.
Yeah.
I'd love to do both.
I love being different characters and growing up, you know,
I was always the one who was made to do impressions of people or accents.
And even now on TikTok, I love like being different people and doing little comedy things.
And I just like playing.
And I don't think that fire in me will ever go away.
So I have to entertain it, which is part of the reason.
And I felt like I had to leave EastEnders because I couldn't do anything else.
And, you know, I've been with Whitney for 16 years.
And I know there's so many more characters in me.
I think there gets to a point as well where if you don't leave, which is great if that's what you want.
You're sort of committing to that for the rest of your life, aren't you?
Yeah.
Like I knew that if I didn't leave, I'd be the next dot-com, you know.
Could be worse things, babe.
Absolutely.
which is iconic, but also, it's a long time.
Yeah.
And it was perfect for June Brown,
because she'd had all this wealth of theatre experience.
You know, it was that point in her career
where she thought, just what I fancy.
Because you know what, when you're that age,
you're like, I want a regular gig.
Yeah, yeah, you just want to relax and, you know, calm down a bit.
But I actually feel more ready than ever to work really hard
and explore different avenues.
I know what I see.
one. It's got to be strictly, hasn't it? Come on, that's the next one. Don't you think?
I would love to do strictly. No, I don't know, because I really like Bobby and I want you to, I want
your relationship to continue. I agree with you. He said to this to me before. No, I do, I don't.
What, you think there might be something odd about grinding up next to a Russian man in Lycra every week.
Why is he Russian? Well, they are, you know, Luigi or whatever.
Louise you from Mario Carp
Look I just feel like you either
Love someone that you're with
Or you go on stick me
Or you
Disrespect them and
Go on sleep me
Go and bonk someone else
Yeah I know I know
You know what I mean
I know the chemistry is there
But I mean I've had experience
I think the world it is
I'll look
I'll discuss it
And we'll just make sure that
How can I put this politely
Go on
The partner
Yeah
Is someone we feel safe with.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
There are ones you feel safe with.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
No, I know what you mean.
What about if it was a non-heterosexual?
Not even a gay man.
Well, then, oh, come on, Bobby.
I'm losing my sympathy now.
God's sake, man.
Jesus.
I'd love to.
I mean, I am a bit, I feel like I'm a drag queen at heart.
At heart. We both. I think we both got embracing that energy. I just I love it. Like I'm absolutely
obsessed with RuPaul's drag race. It's like my comfort, everything. And just strictly just appeals to my
soul because it's sequins and glitter and tan and hair and nails and I just love it. And Russian men
in Lycra. Russian men in Lycra. But who are probably gay. So don't worry about me. Yes. Let's be
honest you know I have to say we should let you go now because our dog Cecey and
Raymond are shivering oh and we should let them go but I have absolutely loved our
dog walk have you enjoyed it me too I really really have you are lovely and I feel
like you're quite intuitive you've been very intuitive like you've you've said
things that are very accurate about like how you felt about like my dad and our
relationship and things like that and you're bang on and
And has anyone ever told you that you are intuitive and you might have little abilities or not?
Do you know, I love that?
Do you know what I think?
I think it's a two-way street.
So I think because you're quite open and giving, that brings out the best in me.
It takes two to tango is what I'm saying, sorry, Bobby.
Yeah, sorry.
To bring up tangoing.
Triggered.
shaken in the corner.
I think it's a dynamic that you create.
And I think you can,
I can only be like this if someone's meeting me halfway.
You know,
and I might be with someone who's a bit of a closed shot,
but I knew as soon as I met you,
I love that we're reviewing our relationship.
It's true.
I felt when I met you, I felt,
oh, you're someone who's not frightened of vulnerability.
And you also,
unusually for an actor I think
there's no front with you
oh
I appreciate that
yeah
oh I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship
Shona
oh thank you
we've loved meeting you
well we wish you every success
oh thank you
and it was so lovely
meeting Bobby
and Cecey
Raymond are you going to say goodbye to Shona
and Mondo I love you
you take Cece's like I can say bye
to Raymond.
God, look how shallow she is already.
Can you take Cecey, Raymond?
You got her?
Oh, Rangondo, you're okay, hon.
Oh, his little bladipers' arms.
Raymond, say goodbye to Shona.
Bye, baby.
Bye, bye.
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