WAR MODE - Epstein Files w/ Nick Bryant (Pt.1)
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What would I have done?
I would have done a legitimate investigation to find out what exactly happened on 9-11.
How did they know who did this so quickly like they did Lee Harvey Oswald?
Who's going to investigate the investigators?
Who's going to investigate the prosecutors?
Who's going to hold them accountable?
Who's going to hold us public officials accountable?
And that's all we're trying to do here in addition to trying to find the truth.
Do you honestly and truly in your heart believe that Sandy Hook actually happened?
Yes or no?
No.
All right.
Number two.
And I'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you're trying to take off firearms.
We continue to jail.
It's only just begun.
A little bit more.
I just don't want to start talking to that.
Is that good?
Yeah, yeah.
All right, cool.
Yeah, ever since this came out, it torched me because I used to
love watching Steve Bannon do speeches
because I was like, this guy gets it.
And now I'm like, the coping
I'm doing in my mind.
Like, is this guy,
was this guy naval intelligence?
Was he turning Epstein in?
And then it's like, obviously, no, he's just
joining with Epstein.
They're like best friends.
Yeah, I, uh, all right, I'll start.
Okay.
All right.
Nick, thanks for coming back.
Yeah, when I got,
when I saw the one that was like,
from Galane to Epstein going,
Galker have printed the entire address book,
all beer redacted is like
that's Epstein finding out about you
sending in the little black book
that's crazy
how that he'll read it through that
he had four after you put the APB out on you
he had four years to deal with you
yeah that's such a long time
three and a half years or whatever
I don't think Jeffrey Epstein liked me
very much
no
but I want to on a positive note
I've done a lot of podcasts but you two are my favorite
podcast
I take that
frame it yeah i was watching one podcast that you were doing and you hit up the harry fish guy
yeah the guy with the pizza yeah so like dude he's sitting here talking to him and he's like
the is the food codes or is this just like or are they just obsessed with junk food
because the guy's like the fish heads was what i needed chicken palm would have been good too
you're back on my show one more thing chunky's and then he's like cherry pop tart like
What are they talking about?
Well, you've got Susan Hamblin, who is the head of an adoption charity, and she's talking about sending muffins and stakes to the island.
I don't like this.
No.
That's an insane combo.
I would have to say that she is not sending muffins and stakes to Little St. James.
Yeah.
She's obviously sending children to Little St. James.
that's where like back when we first started talking to you like we didn't even want to bring up like the Pizza Gate stuff because like we were like way into that when it first came out and everything like that but we didn't want to like make you have to like talk about like a crazy conspiracy but now it is kind of insane that they are using some sort of code words but I don't think the two code words are overlapping from Pizza Gate and Epstein stuff I feel like they got like their own spin on using like weird codes it's tough there was that email that you said from Harry Fish he's an eminent
urologist and
he said
to Ebson, I can't wait until we go out for pizza
and grape soda
and
I called him up.
I got his number and I'm going to be contacting
more and more of these villains.
I've been, I've contacted a few of them now.
And I called up Harry and I said, Harry, how are you doing?
My name's Nick Brian. I'm a journalist.
And I'd like to know,
I've got an email.
that you shared with Jeffrey Epstein.
You're talking about pizza and grape soda,
and I'd like to know what type of pizza you like
and what brand of grape soda you'd suggest.
And he never got back to me.
I was really offended by that.
So I sent him a text that basically said the same thing,
and I posted the text on Twitter.
And he never got back to me on that either.
I mean, I think that's kind of rude.
They seem to be talking all the time.
The other code one is the shrimp one.
The black shrimp and the shrimp heads you throw away.
Like, this makes no sense.
Not at all.
Well, obviously, I think the dark shrimp, the guy who,
his name was Cologne, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I think that he obviously didn't like African Americans.
But snapping the heads off, that...
That's actual shrimp talk.
That's kind of...
Strange.
So, but yeah, I think that we can see by these emails,
I knew that there was a very dark side to Epstein, a very dark side.
Well, that's the thing that's frustrating for me is people are trying to spin it now,
like this guy was just kind of normal.
These are just like hot young 20-something year old girls.
And it's like, dude, I don't think so.
I mean, the emails show that they're exchanging pictures of girls that are nine years old,
10 years old, 11 years old.
And that's true.
Yeah, I mean, the JPEG, say that.
Yeah, right.
So, and I've known
that Epstein was trafficking girls under 10
for quite some time.
And I've talked about it.
And people have been skeptical,
but now these documents really show
that he was trafficking.
And there's other accounts of girls
that are under 10.
being trafficked by him.
And if you do Epstein justice right, could we see these things unredacted?
Or could like a congressperson see it?
Well, now with Epstein justice, we want an independent congressional commission.
And that does not entail a signature of the president.
You need a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate.
And the thing about independent congressional commissions is
they often employ non-government personnel
because we would need non-government personnel
to dig into this if we were going to do it.
Because if it goes to a subcommittee, it's going to die.
I mean, that's where things go to die, okay,
is in subcommittees.
So we need an independent congressional commission.
Now, that's going to require a majority in the House
and a majority in the Senate.
which you're close right
yeah I think that we are relatively close
I mean I'm sure that there were people that were compromised
that voted for a investigation just because
it looks good there was a guy from California
I saw that like the first time like the first like wave of files
that got dropped like he was still just like don't believe this shit
like he was he looked like he was pretty hurt that all this stuff was getting
released because it is like getting a lot of people in a ton of trouble
which is kind of impressive because that hasn't happened in any
thing I've looked into in my life.
Well, we need people arrested at this point.
So now we need an independent
congressional commission more than we ever have
because we've got all these documents
and we have to find out
who's sending
these documents. Who are the redacted names?
The Trump administration
is blatantly breaking
the law of the Epstein Transparency
Act. Because
they're supposed to provide us with
all the documents and only the victims are supposed to be redacted.
So Trump and that whole administration is...
And they did the opposite.
Yes.
They redacted all the billionaires and released all the victims.
Which is insane.
It's almost like a hit list where he's like,
yeah, you can take these people out if you want to.
When Bondi said, when she was testifying last week before the House,
and she said, yeah, we're willing to talk to any Epstein victim that comes forward
and then all the Epstein victims stood up
and they said raise your hand if you talk to the FBI
and all them raise their hand.
No man, cash is solid, dude.
Cash is going to get to the bottom of it.
Yeah, it is like for everything,
is there anything that's surprising you from the files
that you haven't already known or?
I was surprised in this one where it was he got invited to a skiff
and they're talking about it with Bannon.
So he was talking like military guys.
Yeah, that's insane.
Dropsite news has made done some really good reporting on Ahud Barak,
who is also a pedophile.
And according to Virginia Jewfrey.
And he and Epstein were putting together arms deals, significant arms deals.
Yeah, yeah.
And Epstein was putting together arms deals.
He was laundering money.
He was trafficking underage girls.
he was blackmailing.
That's a very talented guy.
Yeah.
If I was team evil,
he would be a first round draft choice.
I mean, he might be the first pick overall
if I was team evil.
Do you think there's other dudes out there on this level?
Yes.
Wow.
You know, like guys like MI6 will reach out.
Be like, we need a deal made, butter up this sultan.
Is it like an evil Ray Donovan kind of?
Like a showtime show?
Yeah, it's.
Like a fixer?
something? Well, I think he was. I mean, in the Franklin scandal, there was Craig Spence.
Yeah, he was in Vietnam, right? Well, he was actually an ABC broadcaster in Vietnam.
Right. And then St. Er, King was in Thailand at that exact same time.
He was with the Air Force, and he had a top security clearance. And my theory on that is,
I can't prove it, but this is my theory. And I think I know.
Franklin better than just about anybody is I think both of them got busted
molesting little boys in Southeast Asia and they were turned because they're
both those guys are from blue collar backgrounds and you get the shit kicked out of you go home
but when when they when they came back to the U.S. their careers were like rockets right
and the impunity with which they operated,
we saw the same impunity with Epstein.
I mean, that's Epstein's thing, too.
He's just a Coney Island boy.
Well, his dad was a gardener for New York City.
People say, well, Epstein was blackmailing this person or Epstein was black.
He was blackmailing some most powerful people in the world.
Yeah.
And there's no way a gardener's son in Coney Island, that's a college dropout, is going to be able to blackmail really powerful people because they have access to thugs.
I've written an article about this where I showed that Les Wexner had definitely big-time mafia connections.
It's weird how that guy just shrugged that stuff off yesterday.
Yeah, it didn't seem too bad.
I'm not even friends with Epstein.
And, you know, he was doing business.
business with Epstein.
They were, there's
deals that they did after
Epstein was a convicted job
molest. Yeah. And
so that
in and of itself just shows
that he's lying. Yeah.
But we all know that he's lying.
But the mind-boggling thing
about that is, is the FBI hadn't
even interviewed him.
Up until now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
that is insane. That's the first time.
That's the first time they've ever talked.
Nice job, Cash.
And it's like, obviously, the guy had a teen lingerie magazine.
Like, obviously, this guy might be a pedophile.
Well, the fact that that got pushed through and published and, like, sent to people's houses is insane.
And the Hollister boys.
Yeah.
Hollister guys, all that stuff.
Wexner is one of the grand wizards of all this.
I think that Epstein was actually afraid of Wexner.
Yeah.
And some of those emails.
I think that...
I saw pictures of them chilling on a boat
and it definitely looked like they were
sitting around a mentor.
Yeah.
It was like a couple of dudes I don't know,
Epstein, and then I was like, who's this old guy?
And I kept like zooming in and I was like,
that's last Waxner.
The old triveled up guy?
Yeah.
The thing about Epstein
and Wexner is they were lovers too.
Oh, dude, we've said this.
I was like, bro, he's...
Whatever. I'm not judging.
But they were both lovers and...
they were pedophiles together.
I mean, Wexner was,
according to Virginia Gouffrey, was molesting
little girls, but then
I've heard from other sources
that he was
allegedly molesting little boys.
I think little boys were probably
his chosen
pedophilic target.
And when you say, like, according to Virginia,
like, she gets corroborated by
other people. Like, that's, because people
are saying now, it's like, oh, she's just a crazy
chick. Yeah. And it's like, bro, like, I don't know. There's just way, there's way too much stuff in here.
I wrote an article that's on my blog, and it's called a Requiem for Virginia Jew Free. And I
get into all the evidence that supports her. And she was really a supernova, a really amazing
person. I got to know her fairly well. And when she moved back to Australia,
she just kind of went radio silent with a bunch of people.
And we didn't really know what was going on with her because she just,
she never returned my emails or my calls.
And that's also the case with other people that I know that knew her very well.
And I had no idea why she went radio silent.
I was thinking that maybe she's taken on all these powerful guys,
She just wants to kind of recede in anonymity,
although she was terrified of Wexner,
and she was terrified of Ahud Barak.
Right.
Terrified.
And, but what was going on is her husband was beating her up.
Damn.
And she just kind of, and Virginia,
her father started molest to her when she was six
and farmed her out to an extra neighbor when she was eight.
So Virginia obviously had dissociative identity disorder.
I've got no doubts about that.
And people with dissociative identity disorder,
like she went up against all these powerful people.
And if you've got dissociative identity disorder,
it can be hugely helpful because if you are...
You can shift into the gear.
Yeah, you can shift into a different gear.
I got you.
And I think that enabled her to get through what she went through.
We've seen that with like Paul Bonassi and the Franklin scandal.
So I think that the wheels came off.
She had been, she had endured so much trauma.
She was molested by her father when she was six.
He farmed her out when she was eight.
She was put into an archaic institution when she was like 11 or 12.
And one of those tough love kind of places.
In the 70s,
and probably in the early 80s,
like rehabs.
Used to put people in diapers
and give them dunce hats.
They were real serious.
Are you serious?
Oh, there's places like,
my dad's one buddy,
he was like, you get sent to that
and it is like fucking forward.
Like you're never doing...
Kind of.
You're never doing drugs again.
Or you're fucked for life.
Well, what their philosophy was
is that you needed to break people down.
Yeah.
But now people know,
people know that drug addicts and alcoholics have already brought themselves down.
They need to be built up.
They don't need any more breaking down.
So she was sent to one of those places that break people down.
And she ran away.
And she was selling herself on the streets.
And she intersected, I think he was in a limbo,
a guy named Ron Appinger.
He was a pedophilic pimp.
I was wondering if that was a real name.
That's in her book.
Yeah, Ron Ebinger.
And so Eppinger rented an apartment for her, and pedophiles would come in during the day, the night, whatever.
And then the FBI got on to Eppinger, and then he gave her to a guy named Kelman.
And then in a pre-dawn raid, the FBI kicked down Kelman's door.
And Virginia was, I think, 15 at this point.
and her father was kind enough to let her back into the house.
Right.
Her father, I've seen him on some television interviews.
What was he like as far as like work?
Was he in like politics?
He was a dude.
He, no, no.
He was like a maintenance man for Mara Lago.
Oh, yeah.
Ouchy.
That hurts.
And then he got Virginia a job at Mara Lago.
And that's when she met Maxwell.
And Epstein and Maxwell, with, when we talk about the Franklin scandal, like, the kids, a lot of them came from Boys Town.
And Boys Town taught them deference and respect.
They were programmed.
Yeah, try to wash any kind of street stuff out of them.
And because you cannot take.
a kid off the street and put them in the same room as the senator yeah you just you can't do it
i mean they have to be they have to be trained they have to be conditioned they have to be groomed
and virginia was already all of those things so it was easy for ebstein and maxwell just to
traffic her all over right and then like so when that's when she gets sent to marlotta like
Do you think, like, there's like a ton of, like, argument back and forth with, like,
if Trump had anything to do with it or Trump's an FBI informant?
Like, what do you think as far as, like, Trump's role and all this goes?
Like, where does he stand in this thing?
Is he just, like, guilty as the rest of him?
Or do you think you might have been an FBI format?
Ask him for a friend?
I, he ostensibly said to the Palm Beach Police Chief that Epstein was a monster, I think, in 2007.
but I've got to talk to him about that.
Yeah.
And with Trump, the thing about Epstein is
Epstein wore what he was on his sleeve.
I mean, maybe he could be cool for an hour.
Maybe he could be cool for a day.
But if you spend any time with Jeffrey Epstein,
you know exactly what he was about.
Okay.
Yeah, he was a little.
to me the emails between his like girlfriends or whatever like the chicks he groomed and like the
manipulation and the weirdness like the shit he does the chicks is like really fucked up yeah if you
uh keyword search uh j e jail seems to be like this he was talking to this girl like
nem was her initials and the way he was controlling her and it was right before he got that was his
girlfriend i think who became a pilot like right before he got his that's not in marcincova
and dude the way he's talking to these girls is like mind control he's got them like afraid
fuck up. He's a controlling
psycho, dude. And he's like
talking about how they don't make good enough omelets.
And they got to read all these books and get smart
and like give him massages and help him
with the exercises. They got to work out four or
five times a day. And it's like,
this guy's a psychopath. This is why
when they go, let's go get grape soda and pizza.
I'm like, this guy's not eating junk food.
No. He's a health freak. He's trying to
like clone himself
in Santa Fe. He's a maniac.
I think he probably did clone himself.
I'm terrified.
You told us that last time we heard that cloning is that hard.
I've probably think about it once a week.
The world's way different now.
People are way more open to hearing about cloning.
But like the thing that's the same is what I see them doing in Virginia and stuff,
is the same thing they did that the Franklin Scandal kids is they're like,
they're on drugs, she's crazy.
Yeah.
You all know a crazy girl.
That's one of them.
Yeah.
And it's like, dude, that's not the wet.
That's not what's going on here.
And that's what happened to Paul Benassi, right?
He's a nut.
Like, you can't believe anything he says.
Yeah.
I mean, Paul went through.
just hell
starting at a very young age. And he
has said that he was a mind control
survivor. And
I did a lot of
research into Paul and
just about everything that he said that I could
corroborate turned out to be true. He said
that he took part in the Johnny Gosh
abduction and that Johnny Gosh
was taken to a house
in Colorado.
And that all turned out to be
true. Yeah.
So with Paul, I
I mean, most of the things that he said is true.
And I think that with Epstein, there might have been some kind of nexus with mind control.
I don't know that for a fact.
I mean, I've talked to three Franklin victims, and I firmly believe that they were mind control.
Do you think that, did he name his plane, Lolita Express?
Or is that the name that's been given to it by the press?
I think that was the name that was given by the press.
But I mean, I'm sure he was proud of it.
I'm just like fascinated.
I never read Lolita.
I'm like halfway through it.
It's actually like rugged the language.
It's tough read.
But like in the, so the book is like you're reading this dead dude's diary.
And he's like edge lording being like, I can't believe I'm writing this stuff down.
If everybody ever reads this, I'm so busted.
And like Lolita will come in, like, Dolores will come in the room and be like, what are you writing?
He's like, nothing.
Like he's doing this stuff, right?
But it's kind of like we are reading a dead dude's diary that was like living out this like pedophile life.
Yeah.
It's the same as Lolita.
And he seems to be like, doesn't he reference it or something like that a lot?
I mean, he had like.
He's got like a first edition.
Yeah, yeah.
He's all the first edition.
I looked into that.
He's boys with this dude Jeffrey or J. Edward J. Epstein that writes for.
Yeah, he's a JFK assassinations and stuff.
He's a propaganda writer.
That dude's, that dude's a college professor.
was Vladimir Nabokov.
The guy that wrote Lolita, so I think that's how he was
getting him. But he would hand him out to people like,
I got you, bro, I got to sign first edition.
And he would give him to people. But he was writing
quotes from Lolita on girl's skin,
dude. Yeah. Yeah, so he's a
fucking psycho. I mean, that's like
edging. Like, dude, one day they'll find
these pictures. Yeah.
Well, the thing about Epstein was, he
was very confident that
he could do anything he wanted,
and he was going to get away with it.
Yeah, the way he was talking on, like, the videos,
that we watch of him on the island
and stuff like that. He sounded like he beat
the game and he's just showing up to be like, yeah, I got my own beach.
No boats can come in here.
He sounds like a real dickhead.
He's a dick. Well, he's a psychopath.
I mean, Jeffrey Epstein was
a psychopath.
And I knew
that Jeffrey Epstein was a psychopath.
And with psychopaths,
they do not have a conscience.
They're not hindered by a conscience.
They do whatever they want to do.
I was just looking into psychiatrys.
So frustrated about this because I know that you're right.
And nobody actually encounter, like, very few people will actually encounter a psychopath in their life and know it.
Or know them well enough to know that they're psychopaths.
So regular people are like sitting there going like this is crazy.
Nobody could be like this.
He's probably like this.
And you're thinking like a regular person.
And this dude does not have a conscience.
He doesn't have Jimmy Cricket.
And the psychopaths are even worse than the sociopaths, right?
Well, they're about the same.
No conscience.
Well, the thing about it is you're not going to know you're dealing with a psychopath or a sociopath unless you have something they want or you're in an impediment to something they want.
And then you will realize what is.
And that's happened to me a couple of times where I've realized I'm dealing with some psychopaths here.
I was talking to him a little while ago about that where it's like couldn't these people like if you were running these like sex trafficking, pedophilia, like couldn't you feel?
like couldn't you find like if you get a psychopath that's like getting a kid who's running a
4 340 in eighth grade where you're like yeah i can use you buddy and like you fucking put him
in the dalton school you fast pass through all this stuff and just get him to start do your bidding
and he could care less as long as you're just like dude you're the man your dick's definitely not
shaped like a neck it's just weird because in 2014 bill burns and peter teal are like we got to go
chill and have a meeting with epstein it's like so what is this dude yeah this dude isn't just
some random ass psychopath.
Burns actually had at least three meetings,
and he became the CIA director under Joseph Biden.
Jesus.
So what was he before?
What was he when he was doing this?
He was a diplomat,
and then he became president of the Carnegie G.
Okay.
And then he...
What's that?
Think tank or something?
It's ostensibly a charity.
Okay.
But like the Rockefeller, I mean, a lot of these organizations from old money that are ostensibly charities have intelligence connections.
Right.
Well, like with the Ford family and the Rockefeller family, there's definitely been connections between their foundations and intelligence.
And that dude was CIA director for Biden?
Yes.
What the fuck?
Yeah, this is...
The other weird shit that he gets into
is all that science stuff.
So he gets into all these scientists,
and he got into that edge thing,
but then he becomes boys with them all.
And all the stuff he gets into
is the CRISPR, the gene editing,
and the trans stuff.
And that hit mainstream, like, after Epstein.
Well, there's that email
where the dude's talking about...
I can't remember his name.
He's talking about giving hormone blockers
to...
little boys and testosterone little girls to essentially produce a hermaphrodite.
And he's talking about how sexy the hermaphrodite's going to be.
And I've never really found...
I never really found hermaphrodite sexy.
I mean, granted, I probably, I don't know if I've ever interacted.
Medical anomaly, maybe, but that's not it.
But it's never been something that I've been attracted to.
But I'm sure that there are rich freaks out there that...
They probably get bored with the old supermodel.
Yeah.
You know?
And that was the same thing with Franklin is a lot of these guys,
they can have prostitutes for a thousand an hour,
2,000 hour, 3,000 hour.
And ultimately they go towards forbidden fruit.
And then sometimes they have to keep getting more violent
and more violent and more violent.
There's a lot of like strangulation and torture stuff in the emails too,
which, like, I, for some reason, it's just very easy for me to picture, like, these rich dudes just kind of losing their mind and strangling a chick by accident.
And then Epstein walks in and goes, all right, I guess we're going to have to clean this up and you're blackmail.
I mean, you remember when the little kid was jumping out of that British building?
Yeah.
With a sheet.
Yeah.
I always think about that.
I think about all this stuff.
The thing was that Mexican girl that was like, they're eating people.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I saw that.
You know?
And it would be really nice to get to the bottom of all this coded language.
Yeah.
I've seen accounts, different accounts of what that coded language is, but I just...
Can't corroborate it or whatever?
I don't know at this point.
I'm just, I'm not...
You guys know me.
I want to be pretty confident.
Yeah, that's what it's hard to figure out what the...
Like, because there was one thing, we were talking about something last week where, like, if you
read it a few times, you can kind of make sense of it.
Because these guys are also like, they're incoherent when it comes to spelling and talking and all that stuff.
You think Epson's talking in code.
he's typing out.
You think it's a voice to text.
Yeah.
Right.
I think it could be maybe voice to text or something because like I've sent text messages
where like it sounds like I'm on meth because I'm not looking at my phone and texting
that I just said send.
But like like with the pictures and like with everything together, it is definitely there's
something going on.
But like you can kind of like put it to the side of your mind if you're just like,
oh, maybe that's a mistake or something like that.
But it definitely seems like.
They think different.
When I was up when we were driving up here, I was reading, um,
Epstein and Woody Allen's wife
talking about Anthony Weiner
and she's just like that little girl
She knows what she's doing
That poor man
What she's doing that poor man
And he's like I can't believe she thought
He thought he was safe
Talking to a 15 year old on the internet
It's like dude
What are you guys?
And then Woody talks about like terminating someone
Their life
I mean
She turned out to be a little of mine
She was
Woody Allen
For mind
What he kind of escaped
All the original Epstein stuff
Woody Allen was, I don't remember
Woody Allen being this like,
dinners with Woody.
You know, what about him having
Water Cronkite being friends with Dick Cavett?
This is nuts.
I know it.
Woody was friends with just about anybody on the left.
No, I mean Epstein.
Oh, Epstein, yes.
That's fucking crazy, dude.
The thing about Epstein is
he was a connector.
He connected a lot of people.
Yeah.
And one of the emails,
he's using,
Fergie to get to Prince Andrew.
Right.
And that's what he does, is he uses people to get to other people.
There were some scorn women in the email saying, like, I could now know that you were just using me.
And it seems like everyone he was talking to was a transactional relationship to get to the next person.
Before this, dude, it's like, it must be so hard for you to hang out with normal people.
You're so smart.
I see how you talk to people and get whatever you want.
Like, master manipulator stuff.
He wouldn't have got me, though.
No chance.
As I said, psychopaths are really smooth.
And you're not going to know that you're dealing with a psychopath unless they got something you want or you're an impediment to something.
I got to remember this.
This is like the yacht thing you have.
That's very important.
Like, they're only talking to you if they need something.
What about the, like the Prince Andrew stuff?
They said he just got pulled in for like financial stuff.
It wasn't even about it.
It was giving information, trade information.
to Epstein.
So it had nothing to do with, like,
hanging out on the plane
with little girls or anything like that.
No. But it's a start.
You should, like, tie Epstein justice
to his financial crimes,
and maybe someone would actually go crazy over it.
It's that UK ambassador to America,
Peter Mandelson.
I mean, he was a guy that wrote to Epstein,
or Epstein wrote to him,
I love the torture video.
Yeah, he's the guy that's like,
Leonardo de Caprio needs some money
like that's Epstein's hitting him up about that
yeah and that was weird too
I mean it's Prince Andrew that's eyes wide shut
yeah that there's a lot of like
there's some stuff that's like
blowing people's mind the pictures and stuff like this
but like to me like this shit has been out forever
so like it's just I get like weirded out
and now all of a sudden they're going to put all this stuff out
like almost like a limited hangout and then like
them trying real hard to tie it to people
Pizza Gate to like maybe like hurt its credibility or something like that like something just seems
off about the way they're we've already been through this with Pizza Gate yeah we're already like
sucked in and then it was like dude this what are we doing and then I don't know what that was all
about yeah I don't know why they did that to us but because like the early pizza gate stuff
it was just emails from WikiLeak to from Podesta to like everyone out like it was like normal
stuff so like I don't understand like why it um it kind of just got like a kid went in there
and shot the hard drive and then like a few years later he gets killed and everyone's like oh it was just some
weirdos online talking crazy with Pizza gate i as i said i i looked into it and i could never really
define any definitive information so with the stuff that's coming out now i mean if you take
if you exclude even the pizzas and the muffins and the steaks,
you still have some very evil stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, very evil.
And what we need is, you know, our government,
the Trump administration is telling us that Epstein had no co-conspirators.
They're sticking to that.
It's a crazy one-man job.
I was reading this Ladd Bible article about how Galane is fighting for her shit to be appealed
because she's supposed to be protected under the original thing.
Immunity, yeah.
She's saying one of the jurors was sexually abused
and never disclosed that before.
And, like, dude, like, when you read this thing,
you're like, they should probably do a retrial thing.
Yeah.
I mean, I know she's guilty or whatever,
but, like, she brought up a lot of,
her lawyers, like, brought up a lot of good points in that.
Oh, my, dude, are they purposely fucking this up?
Like, I don't know if they're going to pardon her or what,
but she's getting, like, a pretty easy life right now.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, she should be,
in like a dungeon.
And bread and water should be
like the extent of her
of her diet.
In these emails that you
are, and all this stuff that you looked at
they killed people? It's in the files that they might have killed people.
Yeah. That's fucking nuts, dude.
Well.
I mean, I guess it's not trafficking in kids.
There's murder in the Franklin scandal
of kids.
and we were talking about this earlier.
I believe that these guys get more and more and more violent
to live on the edge.
Yeah.
To get cortisol or to amp them to steal something.
It's like when dudes have to look at weirder and weirder porn.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And I think that you have it with these power brokers.
And a lot of them are psychopaths are sociosia.
Yes. This is my new running theory that when they start getting kids in school, once they figure out you're a psychopaths, like, we're fastlining you to whatever political power, like whatever we need you to do because like it doesn't, like what they're doing like Pam Bondi, like all these people, Cash Patel and Bonino, like, what they're doing makes no sense. Like they're obviously lying and protecting pedophiles. So either they're compromised or they're psychopaths. Like I don't think there's any like in between. I mean, it could be both. Yeah.
What's weird, what's weird is to say their second pass and they only talk to you if they need you.
And he's got the, he's got that chick, Elizabeth Loftus, the memory.
Yes, false memory syndrome foundation.
This is a big, kind of a big deal if Epstein is looking into this chick.
Yeah, I mean, that's like the, that's speed dial for anyone who gets kit with pedophilia or something like that.
And the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, it's folded, but it was founded by,
a pedophile and his wife who is also his sister.
You know, dude.
What?
I'll start somewhere, I guess.
Pamela and Peter Fried,
they started the False Memory Syndrome Foundation
because their child
said that she'd been molested by Peter.
Oh, I mean.
And they started this unbelievable,
there is no such thing as false memory
syndrome yeah i mean and they were actually as as i said they were step brother and step sister and
then they became husband and wife and peter fried was he was uh he had a phdm mathematics but he was
a nut a psycho and uh and and and this is kind of interesting because the alternative weekly
in philadelphia did an article on the false
Seminary Center Foundation, and they were interviewing Peter Fryden, and they said, well,
how do we know that you didn't molest your daughter?
Now, here's a guy with a Ph.D. and mathematics, and this is what he said, the dog would
have barked there. I don't sweat. That's up there with I don't sweat.
Yeah, I swear to God, I remember seeing that on, like, Donahue or something when I was a little
kid. What, false memory? You should do these shows about these crazy theories that, and to, I don't
of like on purpose to introduce them to the United States or just to be like this is crazy but they
would have people on like did you know that there's false memories yeah just throwing that out there
swear to god I remember seeing that well what they did and what they still do I mean the false memory
syndrome foundation is disintegrated as it should have but they go around and they testify at child
abuse tribes oh my god saying that the child ringer like that we're good yeah yeah
bringing this check.
Saying that the child's memories are fallible and that.
So.
You just arrest everyone from that foundation.
Someone like Loftus made millions of dollars.
Oh, yeah.
Flying around.
And that's what they do.
They fly around the world and they get called by very.
There was a False Memory Syndrome Foundation guy named Harrison Pope
who was called in to debunk these Boys Town kids that were molested by Father James
Kelly. And Father James Kelly
was a major pedophile.
He was a pedophile in New York
upstate. He molested a bunch
of kids in upstate. And then
the Catholic church in its infinite wisdom
transferred him to Boys Town.
Where he became the number two guy.
It's like sending two to the honey.
Because I was
looking for victims
that had been trafficked by King
and I ended up
talking to a bunch of victims that had been
lost my father Kelly.
Yeah.
And I think that Kelly was compromised.
And because the priests at Boys Town, they were the ultimate authority.
And if you wanted a pass for the weekend, you could get one from the priest.
So, and then Kelly, and Boystown has protected Kelly.
It's really egregious.
And then he ended up in Las Vegas as a pastor at a jail.
So there you go.
that's where he ended up
there was one
preach that boys town
who ended up in Argentina
so obviously
yeah I mean
what were you going to ask him
about the boys
the guy from the
body laptops and stuff
I don't know if you want to talk about that
actually on the podcast
but like
the whole boys
lawyer
like it's boys Edwards
ponder is this who
are these the guys
Ponger is a
is he separate
Bonjar is a CIA asset
or was a CIA asset for sure
and he
took part in
arms dealing
people think it's a ran contra
but it's not
in 1979
the Iranian students took
all the people that were
at the U.S. Embassy hostage
it was like 52 of them
and
the Reagan administration
had George Bush
senior
who would be the vice president,
and he had been head of the CIA,
and then it had William Casey,
who was intelligence,
and he would become head of the CIA
and the Reagan administration.
So the Carter administration sent Pontinger
to Spain to talk to one of the Iranians,
and on behalf of the Carter administration,
but he didn't talk to him on behalf of the Carter administration.
He talked to him on behalf of the Reagan campaign.
And that's when they started working out this deal where the United States would sell them arms
if they held the hostages until after Reagan was elected.
That is insane.
This is October surprise.
Is that the first October surprise?
That's the first one.
And October surprise predates Iran-Contra.
Okay.
Or laid the foundation for Ranconra.
So Ponzer is part of this deal.
And one of his clients,
is Cyrus Hashemi, who is an
Iranian arms dealer.
And the Department of Justice
has punger on tape
putting together an arms deal with Hashemi.
They got them on tape.
And Rudolph Giuliani is the U.S. attorney
that's prosecuting the case.
America's marriage.
And Rudolph Giuliani or the Department of Justice,
they lost the tapes.
That incriminate.
Stan Pottinger.
And then around that time, Stan Pottinger was in business with Jeffrey Epstein.
They were ostensibly selling tax avoidant strategies to the rich, but they were both
arms dealers.
Do you think that's how we started?
Like the kids just, or like the human trafficking kind of just came after he like got into the
mud with arms dealing?
You know, it's a chicken or egg kind of thing.
So Epstein was a very talented piano player and a very very.
gift, very gifted at science and math. And Donald Barr, who was in the OSS, and he's the father
of William Barr, who was the Attorney General that covered up Franklin and then covered up Epstein
and a CI guy for sure. So Donald Barr had this special program where talent, they'd bring talented
kids from all over New York, and they would spend like Saturdays. Right. And, and
he oversaw that
and I believe
and I haven't been able to prove it
but I believe that's where
he met Epstein
There's a part of Lolita not to like get too skits out
but there's a part of Lolita at the end where the girl goes to a summer camp
And basically the dude that's been like
Trafficking her and fucking her
figures out that she was already molested by this other dude
that ran a summer play program
And like this is like fucking mind fucking him
Right
but Epstein went to like he was a talented arts kid and went to interlock in
the summertime and he went to like he went to like the same thing that L'Lita went to
it. It's fucking weird when I think about it I'm like this guy kind of lived like parallels
to this book yeah yeah but if Barr found him when he was a kid and he's like
because in the birthday book it's like he's playing accordion like all this stuff makes no sense
whatever I just think there's something about these guys that like fucking it fucks with my
head if I started thinking about that's yeah there's
Psychophist.
Donald Barr was a by the book fascist guy.
I mean, he totally by the book.
He's the nut that wrote that space relations.
Yeah.
So there's no way he would have hired a college dropout.
Fuck no.
For Dalton, which is probably the most prestigious school.
There's no way he would have hired Epstein without kind of some type of prior relationship.
Yeah, the interview he does with Bannon, like everyone says he's a genius.
but when he's talking that interview,
he kind of sounds like a fucking moron.
Well, I mean, the guy obviously has a certain degree of intelligence
to do what he did.
I mean,
he sounds like a guy that kind of grew up,
he's got that Brooklyn Rasp to him.
And his grammar is certainly not very good with the emails.
But the guy had some kind of intelligence to do everything.
But you also have to keep in mind,
he was protected.
Yes.
I mean,
if I was a psychopath
and I wanted to do illegal stuff
and I was protected,
I could do a lot of stuff,
man.
So he's freewheeling and he's protected,
but he's protected by intelligence agencies?
Is that what it is?
Or it's like he belongs to intelligence?
Like, who's protecting him?
Is it mafia?
Well, when he got busted
and when the Palm Beach Police Department
started to investigate in 2000,
And then they had that ridiculous grand jury that said he had molested to say.
Those little girl interviews are rough to read.
So, I mean, and at that point, the Florida knew of anywhere from 17 to 23 victims.
And Lana Bell Lovic, who was a special prosecutor, only called two.
And one had been molested by Epstein when she was 14, she was now 16.
One had been molested by Epstein multiple times when she was 16, and now she was 16.
and now she was 18.
And she just skewered those four girls.
And actually, the grand jurors who are just,
grand jurors are just people that have been shown up for jury duty
and they've been found into a grand jury.
They don't know what, the only thing they know is what the special prosecutor presents them.
And as far as evidence and also calls the witnesses.
So, Lana Bell-Lovic just skewered those.
those poor girls.
And actually the grand jurors were calling them prostitutes.
Holy fuck.
Just really bad.
Yeah.
So Michael Ryder, who was the chief of the Palm Beach Police Department,
who was really one of the major unsung heroes in all this,
he took so much heat.
I bet.
So much heat.
If you're throwing that out there, like, you're pissing off some people.
And yeah, he took a lot.
He's really a good guy, man.
And really the unsung.
song hero of Epstein. And he went to the Department of Justice and said that grand jury is like
one of the greatest miscarriage of justice in modern history. You've got to fix this. Now, what I had
thought before all these documents came out is because Acosta was told to stand down. He was a U.S.
attorney for the Southern District of Florida. He was told to stand down. And I didn't know,
I thought that he was going to impanel a grand jury and didn't,
or he impaneled one briefly and then adjourned it.
But actually, there was a full-scale investigation
at Epstein by the feds.
And they drafted a 60-count indictment.
And I didn't know that until recently.
And then they gave the sweetheart deal?
And then, yeah, and then there was a lot of pressure put on the cost.
Actually, there's an email about it,
were the
we're a Ken Starr
who's a snake
Oh yeah
We know all about
We've been looking into these lawyers
Because it's like this is how
They need like
Dershowitz
Star
And I don't know
Like black
I mean
He had
A dream team right up there
With OJ
Right
Because Ken Starr was with
Clinton scandal
And he was with the
Kavanaul scandal
So it seems like
Everywhere this two goes
There's some like weird
Sexual scandal
It's a
Yeah
So
So Alexander Acosta had the heat put on him.
Now, there's only two people in the government that can tell a U.S. attorney to stand down.
One is the Attorney General and one is president.
Those are the only two guys.
So, and Alexander Acosta, as a U.S. attorney, isn't going to unilaterally cover up a pedophile network.
Not going to happen.
He's not going to put himself on a limb.
The Attorney General was Alberto Gonzalez.
He isn't going to unilaterally cover up a pedophile network.
aophile network. He's not going to put himself on him like that. That order came from Bush, too.
Damn. The cognitively challenged George Bush. Yeah. And so when you talk about intelligence,
power, connections, I mean, the sweetheart deal came from the president of the United States of America.
So like, dudes like boys. Are they good lawyers?
Yeah, you get some more. Boys? Oh, yeah.
I've got him coffee.
