WAR MODE - Epstein Files w/ Nick Bryant (Pt.1)

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What would I have done? I would have done a legitimate investigation to find out what exactly happened on 9-11. How did they know who did this so quickly like they did Lee Harvey Oswald? Who's going to investigate the investigators? Who's going to investigate the prosecutors? Who's going to hold them accountable? Who's going to hold us public officials accountable? And that's all we're trying to do here in addition to trying to find the truth.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Do you honestly and truly in your heart believe that Sandy Hook actually happened? Yes or no? No. All right. Number two. And I'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you're trying to take off firearms. We continue to jail. It's only just begun.
Starting point is 00:00:51 A little bit more. I just don't want to start talking to that. Is that good? Yeah, yeah. All right, cool. Yeah, ever since this came out, it torched me because I used to love watching Steve Bannon do speeches because I was like, this guy gets it.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And now I'm like, the coping I'm doing in my mind. Like, is this guy, was this guy naval intelligence? Was he turning Epstein in? And then it's like, obviously, no, he's just joining with Epstein. They're like best friends.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah, I, uh, all right, I'll start. Okay. All right. Nick, thanks for coming back. Yeah, when I got, when I saw the one that was like, from Galane to Epstein going, Galker have printed the entire address book,
Starting point is 00:01:46 all beer redacted is like that's Epstein finding out about you sending in the little black book that's crazy how that he'll read it through that he had four after you put the APB out on you he had four years to deal with you yeah that's such a long time
Starting point is 00:02:02 three and a half years or whatever I don't think Jeffrey Epstein liked me very much no but I want to on a positive note I've done a lot of podcasts but you two are my favorite podcast I take that
Starting point is 00:02:16 frame it yeah i was watching one podcast that you were doing and you hit up the harry fish guy yeah the guy with the pizza yeah so like dude he's sitting here talking to him and he's like the is the food codes or is this just like or are they just obsessed with junk food because the guy's like the fish heads was what i needed chicken palm would have been good too you're back on my show one more thing chunky's and then he's like cherry pop tart like What are they talking about? Well, you've got Susan Hamblin, who is the head of an adoption charity, and she's talking about sending muffins and stakes to the island. I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:02:58 No. That's an insane combo. I would have to say that she is not sending muffins and stakes to Little St. James. Yeah. She's obviously sending children to Little St. James. that's where like back when we first started talking to you like we didn't even want to bring up like the Pizza Gate stuff because like we were like way into that when it first came out and everything like that but we didn't want to like make you have to like talk about like a crazy conspiracy but now it is kind of insane that they are using some sort of code words but I don't think the two code words are overlapping from Pizza Gate and Epstein stuff I feel like they got like their own spin on using like weird codes it's tough there was that email that you said from Harry Fish he's an eminent urologist and he said
Starting point is 00:03:46 to Ebson, I can't wait until we go out for pizza and grape soda and I called him up. I got his number and I'm going to be contacting more and more of these villains. I've been, I've contacted a few of them now. And I called up Harry and I said, Harry, how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:04:05 My name's Nick Brian. I'm a journalist. And I'd like to know, I've got an email. that you shared with Jeffrey Epstein. You're talking about pizza and grape soda, and I'd like to know what type of pizza you like and what brand of grape soda you'd suggest. And he never got back to me.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I was really offended by that. So I sent him a text that basically said the same thing, and I posted the text on Twitter. And he never got back to me on that either. I mean, I think that's kind of rude. They seem to be talking all the time. The other code one is the shrimp one. The black shrimp and the shrimp heads you throw away.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Like, this makes no sense. Not at all. Well, obviously, I think the dark shrimp, the guy who, his name was Cologne, right? Yeah, yeah. I think that he obviously didn't like African Americans. But snapping the heads off, that... That's actual shrimp talk.
Starting point is 00:05:10 That's kind of... Strange. So, but yeah, I think that we can see by these emails, I knew that there was a very dark side to Epstein, a very dark side. Well, that's the thing that's frustrating for me is people are trying to spin it now, like this guy was just kind of normal. These are just like hot young 20-something year old girls. And it's like, dude, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I mean, the emails show that they're exchanging pictures of girls that are nine years old, 10 years old, 11 years old. And that's true. Yeah, I mean, the JPEG, say that. Yeah, right. So, and I've known that Epstein was trafficking girls under 10 for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And I've talked about it. And people have been skeptical, but now these documents really show that he was trafficking. And there's other accounts of girls that are under 10. being trafficked by him. And if you do Epstein justice right, could we see these things unredacted?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Or could like a congressperson see it? Well, now with Epstein justice, we want an independent congressional commission. And that does not entail a signature of the president. You need a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate. And the thing about independent congressional commissions is they often employ non-government personnel because we would need non-government personnel to dig into this if we were going to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Because if it goes to a subcommittee, it's going to die. I mean, that's where things go to die, okay, is in subcommittees. So we need an independent congressional commission. Now, that's going to require a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate. which you're close right yeah I think that we are relatively close
Starting point is 00:07:14 I mean I'm sure that there were people that were compromised that voted for a investigation just because it looks good there was a guy from California I saw that like the first time like the first like wave of files that got dropped like he was still just like don't believe this shit like he was he looked like he was pretty hurt that all this stuff was getting released because it is like getting a lot of people in a ton of trouble which is kind of impressive because that hasn't happened in any
Starting point is 00:07:39 thing I've looked into in my life. Well, we need people arrested at this point. So now we need an independent congressional commission more than we ever have because we've got all these documents and we have to find out who's sending these documents. Who are the redacted names?
Starting point is 00:07:59 The Trump administration is blatantly breaking the law of the Epstein Transparency Act. Because they're supposed to provide us with all the documents and only the victims are supposed to be redacted. So Trump and that whole administration is... And they did the opposite.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yes. They redacted all the billionaires and released all the victims. Which is insane. It's almost like a hit list where he's like, yeah, you can take these people out if you want to. When Bondi said, when she was testifying last week before the House, and she said, yeah, we're willing to talk to any Epstein victim that comes forward and then all the Epstein victims stood up
Starting point is 00:08:42 and they said raise your hand if you talk to the FBI and all them raise their hand. No man, cash is solid, dude. Cash is going to get to the bottom of it. Yeah, it is like for everything, is there anything that's surprising you from the files that you haven't already known or? I was surprised in this one where it was he got invited to a skiff
Starting point is 00:09:04 and they're talking about it with Bannon. So he was talking like military guys. Yeah, that's insane. Dropsite news has made done some really good reporting on Ahud Barak, who is also a pedophile. And according to Virginia Jewfrey. And he and Epstein were putting together arms deals, significant arms deals. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And Epstein was putting together arms deals. He was laundering money. He was trafficking underage girls. he was blackmailing. That's a very talented guy. Yeah. If I was team evil, he would be a first round draft choice.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I mean, he might be the first pick overall if I was team evil. Do you think there's other dudes out there on this level? Yes. Wow. You know, like guys like MI6 will reach out. Be like, we need a deal made, butter up this sultan. Is it like an evil Ray Donovan kind of?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Like a showtime show? Yeah, it's. Like a fixer? something? Well, I think he was. I mean, in the Franklin scandal, there was Craig Spence. Yeah, he was in Vietnam, right? Well, he was actually an ABC broadcaster in Vietnam. Right. And then St. Er, King was in Thailand at that exact same time. He was with the Air Force, and he had a top security clearance. And my theory on that is, I can't prove it, but this is my theory. And I think I know.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Franklin better than just about anybody is I think both of them got busted molesting little boys in Southeast Asia and they were turned because they're both those guys are from blue collar backgrounds and you get the shit kicked out of you go home but when when they when they came back to the U.S. their careers were like rockets right and the impunity with which they operated, we saw the same impunity with Epstein. I mean, that's Epstein's thing, too. He's just a Coney Island boy.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Well, his dad was a gardener for New York City. People say, well, Epstein was blackmailing this person or Epstein was black. He was blackmailing some most powerful people in the world. Yeah. And there's no way a gardener's son in Coney Island, that's a college dropout, is going to be able to blackmail really powerful people because they have access to thugs. I've written an article about this where I showed that Les Wexner had definitely big-time mafia connections. It's weird how that guy just shrugged that stuff off yesterday. Yeah, it didn't seem too bad.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I'm not even friends with Epstein. And, you know, he was doing business. business with Epstein. They were, there's deals that they did after Epstein was a convicted job molest. Yeah. And so that
Starting point is 00:12:16 in and of itself just shows that he's lying. Yeah. But we all know that he's lying. But the mind-boggling thing about that is, is the FBI hadn't even interviewed him. Up until now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is insane. That's the first time.
Starting point is 00:12:32 That's the first time they've ever talked. Nice job, Cash. And it's like, obviously, the guy had a teen lingerie magazine. Like, obviously, this guy might be a pedophile. Well, the fact that that got pushed through and published and, like, sent to people's houses is insane. And the Hollister boys. Yeah. Hollister guys, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Wexner is one of the grand wizards of all this. I think that Epstein was actually afraid of Wexner. Yeah. And some of those emails. I think that... I saw pictures of them chilling on a boat and it definitely looked like they were sitting around a mentor.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah. It was like a couple of dudes I don't know, Epstein, and then I was like, who's this old guy? And I kept like zooming in and I was like, that's last Waxner. The old triveled up guy? Yeah. The thing about Epstein
Starting point is 00:13:25 and Wexner is they were lovers too. Oh, dude, we've said this. I was like, bro, he's... Whatever. I'm not judging. But they were both lovers and... they were pedophiles together. I mean, Wexner was, according to Virginia Gouffrey, was molesting
Starting point is 00:13:41 little girls, but then I've heard from other sources that he was allegedly molesting little boys. I think little boys were probably his chosen pedophilic target. And when you say, like, according to Virginia,
Starting point is 00:13:58 like, she gets corroborated by other people. Like, that's, because people are saying now, it's like, oh, she's just a crazy chick. Yeah. And it's like, bro, like, I don't know. There's just way, there's way too much stuff in here. I wrote an article that's on my blog, and it's called a Requiem for Virginia Jew Free. And I get into all the evidence that supports her. And she was really a supernova, a really amazing person. I got to know her fairly well. And when she moved back to Australia, she just kind of went radio silent with a bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And we didn't really know what was going on with her because she just, she never returned my emails or my calls. And that's also the case with other people that I know that knew her very well. And I had no idea why she went radio silent. I was thinking that maybe she's taken on all these powerful guys, She just wants to kind of recede in anonymity, although she was terrified of Wexner, and she was terrified of Ahud Barak.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Right. Terrified. And, but what was going on is her husband was beating her up. Damn. And she just kind of, and Virginia, her father started molest to her when she was six and farmed her out to an extra neighbor when she was eight. So Virginia obviously had dissociative identity disorder.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I've got no doubts about that. And people with dissociative identity disorder, like she went up against all these powerful people. And if you've got dissociative identity disorder, it can be hugely helpful because if you are... You can shift into the gear. Yeah, you can shift into a different gear. I got you.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And I think that enabled her to get through what she went through. We've seen that with like Paul Bonassi and the Franklin scandal. So I think that the wheels came off. She had been, she had endured so much trauma. She was molested by her father when she was six. He farmed her out when she was eight. She was put into an archaic institution when she was like 11 or 12. And one of those tough love kind of places.
Starting point is 00:16:36 In the 70s, and probably in the early 80s, like rehabs. Used to put people in diapers and give them dunce hats. They were real serious. Are you serious? Oh, there's places like,
Starting point is 00:16:48 my dad's one buddy, he was like, you get sent to that and it is like fucking forward. Like you're never doing... Kind of. You're never doing drugs again. Or you're fucked for life. Well, what their philosophy was
Starting point is 00:17:01 is that you needed to break people down. Yeah. But now people know, people know that drug addicts and alcoholics have already brought themselves down. They need to be built up. They don't need any more breaking down. So she was sent to one of those places that break people down. And she ran away.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And she was selling herself on the streets. And she intersected, I think he was in a limbo, a guy named Ron Appinger. He was a pedophilic pimp. I was wondering if that was a real name. That's in her book. Yeah, Ron Ebinger. And so Eppinger rented an apartment for her, and pedophiles would come in during the day, the night, whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And then the FBI got on to Eppinger, and then he gave her to a guy named Kelman. And then in a pre-dawn raid, the FBI kicked down Kelman's door. And Virginia was, I think, 15 at this point. and her father was kind enough to let her back into the house. Right. Her father, I've seen him on some television interviews. What was he like as far as like work? Was he in like politics?
Starting point is 00:18:18 He was a dude. He, no, no. He was like a maintenance man for Mara Lago. Oh, yeah. Ouchy. That hurts. And then he got Virginia a job at Mara Lago. And that's when she met Maxwell.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And Epstein and Maxwell, with, when we talk about the Franklin scandal, like, the kids, a lot of them came from Boys Town. And Boys Town taught them deference and respect. They were programmed. Yeah, try to wash any kind of street stuff out of them. And because you cannot take. a kid off the street and put them in the same room as the senator yeah you just you can't do it i mean they have to be they have to be trained they have to be conditioned they have to be groomed and virginia was already all of those things so it was easy for ebstein and maxwell just to
Starting point is 00:19:20 traffic her all over right and then like so when that's when she gets sent to marlotta like Do you think, like, there's like a ton of, like, argument back and forth with, like, if Trump had anything to do with it or Trump's an FBI informant? Like, what do you think as far as, like, Trump's role and all this goes? Like, where does he stand in this thing? Is he just, like, guilty as the rest of him? Or do you think you might have been an FBI format? Ask him for a friend?
Starting point is 00:19:47 I, he ostensibly said to the Palm Beach Police Chief that Epstein was a monster, I think, in 2007. but I've got to talk to him about that. Yeah. And with Trump, the thing about Epstein is Epstein wore what he was on his sleeve. I mean, maybe he could be cool for an hour. Maybe he could be cool for a day. But if you spend any time with Jeffrey Epstein,
Starting point is 00:20:24 you know exactly what he was about. Okay. Yeah, he was a little. to me the emails between his like girlfriends or whatever like the chicks he groomed and like the manipulation and the weirdness like the shit he does the chicks is like really fucked up yeah if you uh keyword search uh j e jail seems to be like this he was talking to this girl like nem was her initials and the way he was controlling her and it was right before he got that was his girlfriend i think who became a pilot like right before he got his that's not in marcincova
Starting point is 00:20:51 and dude the way he's talking to these girls is like mind control he's got them like afraid fuck up. He's a controlling psycho, dude. And he's like talking about how they don't make good enough omelets. And they got to read all these books and get smart and like give him massages and help him with the exercises. They got to work out four or five times a day. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:11 this guy's a psychopath. This is why when they go, let's go get grape soda and pizza. I'm like, this guy's not eating junk food. No. He's a health freak. He's trying to like clone himself in Santa Fe. He's a maniac. I think he probably did clone himself. I'm terrified.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You told us that last time we heard that cloning is that hard. I've probably think about it once a week. The world's way different now. People are way more open to hearing about cloning. But like the thing that's the same is what I see them doing in Virginia and stuff, is the same thing they did that the Franklin Scandal kids is they're like, they're on drugs, she's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:46 You all know a crazy girl. That's one of them. Yeah. And it's like, dude, that's not the wet. That's not what's going on here. And that's what happened to Paul Benassi, right? He's a nut. Like, you can't believe anything he says.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. I mean, Paul went through. just hell starting at a very young age. And he has said that he was a mind control survivor. And I did a lot of research into Paul and
Starting point is 00:22:09 just about everything that he said that I could corroborate turned out to be true. He said that he took part in the Johnny Gosh abduction and that Johnny Gosh was taken to a house in Colorado. And that all turned out to be true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So with Paul, I I mean, most of the things that he said is true. And I think that with Epstein, there might have been some kind of nexus with mind control. I don't know that for a fact. I mean, I've talked to three Franklin victims, and I firmly believe that they were mind control. Do you think that, did he name his plane, Lolita Express? Or is that the name that's been given to it by the press? I think that was the name that was given by the press.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But I mean, I'm sure he was proud of it. I'm just like fascinated. I never read Lolita. I'm like halfway through it. It's actually like rugged the language. It's tough read. But like in the, so the book is like you're reading this dead dude's diary. And he's like edge lording being like, I can't believe I'm writing this stuff down.
Starting point is 00:23:16 If everybody ever reads this, I'm so busted. And like Lolita will come in, like, Dolores will come in the room and be like, what are you writing? He's like, nothing. Like he's doing this stuff, right? But it's kind of like we are reading a dead dude's diary that was like living out this like pedophile life. Yeah. It's the same as Lolita. And he seems to be like, doesn't he reference it or something like that a lot?
Starting point is 00:23:38 I mean, he had like. He's got like a first edition. Yeah, yeah. He's all the first edition. I looked into that. He's boys with this dude Jeffrey or J. Edward J. Epstein that writes for. Yeah, he's a JFK assassinations and stuff. He's a propaganda writer.
Starting point is 00:23:53 That dude's, that dude's a college professor. was Vladimir Nabokov. The guy that wrote Lolita, so I think that's how he was getting him. But he would hand him out to people like, I got you, bro, I got to sign first edition. And he would give him to people. But he was writing quotes from Lolita on girl's skin, dude. Yeah. Yeah, so he's a
Starting point is 00:24:09 fucking psycho. I mean, that's like edging. Like, dude, one day they'll find these pictures. Yeah. Well, the thing about Epstein was, he was very confident that he could do anything he wanted, and he was going to get away with it. Yeah, the way he was talking on, like, the videos,
Starting point is 00:24:25 that we watch of him on the island and stuff like that. He sounded like he beat the game and he's just showing up to be like, yeah, I got my own beach. No boats can come in here. He sounds like a real dickhead. He's a dick. Well, he's a psychopath. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein was a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And I knew that Jeffrey Epstein was a psychopath. And with psychopaths, they do not have a conscience. They're not hindered by a conscience. They do whatever they want to do. I was just looking into psychiatrys. So frustrated about this because I know that you're right.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And nobody actually encounter, like, very few people will actually encounter a psychopath in their life and know it. Or know them well enough to know that they're psychopaths. So regular people are like sitting there going like this is crazy. Nobody could be like this. He's probably like this. And you're thinking like a regular person. And this dude does not have a conscience. He doesn't have Jimmy Cricket.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And the psychopaths are even worse than the sociopaths, right? Well, they're about the same. No conscience. Well, the thing about it is you're not going to know you're dealing with a psychopath or a sociopath unless you have something they want or you're in an impediment to something they want. And then you will realize what is. And that's happened to me a couple of times where I've realized I'm dealing with some psychopaths here. I was talking to him a little while ago about that where it's like couldn't these people like if you were running these like sex trafficking, pedophilia, like couldn't you feel? like couldn't you find like if you get a psychopath that's like getting a kid who's running a
Starting point is 00:25:56 4 340 in eighth grade where you're like yeah i can use you buddy and like you fucking put him in the dalton school you fast pass through all this stuff and just get him to start do your bidding and he could care less as long as you're just like dude you're the man your dick's definitely not shaped like a neck it's just weird because in 2014 bill burns and peter teal are like we got to go chill and have a meeting with epstein it's like so what is this dude yeah this dude isn't just some random ass psychopath. Burns actually had at least three meetings, and he became the CIA director under Joseph Biden.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Jesus. So what was he before? What was he when he was doing this? He was a diplomat, and then he became president of the Carnegie G. Okay. And then he... What's that?
Starting point is 00:26:45 Think tank or something? It's ostensibly a charity. Okay. But like the Rockefeller, I mean, a lot of these organizations from old money that are ostensibly charities have intelligence connections. Right. Well, like with the Ford family and the Rockefeller family, there's definitely been connections between their foundations and intelligence. And that dude was CIA director for Biden? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:19 What the fuck? Yeah, this is... The other weird shit that he gets into is all that science stuff. So he gets into all these scientists, and he got into that edge thing, but then he becomes boys with them all. And all the stuff he gets into
Starting point is 00:27:32 is the CRISPR, the gene editing, and the trans stuff. And that hit mainstream, like, after Epstein. Well, there's that email where the dude's talking about... I can't remember his name. He's talking about giving hormone blockers to...
Starting point is 00:27:50 little boys and testosterone little girls to essentially produce a hermaphrodite. And he's talking about how sexy the hermaphrodite's going to be. And I've never really found... I never really found hermaphrodite sexy. I mean, granted, I probably, I don't know if I've ever interacted. Medical anomaly, maybe, but that's not it. But it's never been something that I've been attracted to. But I'm sure that there are rich freaks out there that...
Starting point is 00:28:20 They probably get bored with the old supermodel. Yeah. You know? And that was the same thing with Franklin is a lot of these guys, they can have prostitutes for a thousand an hour, 2,000 hour, 3,000 hour. And ultimately they go towards forbidden fruit. And then sometimes they have to keep getting more violent
Starting point is 00:28:43 and more violent and more violent. There's a lot of like strangulation and torture stuff in the emails too, which, like, I, for some reason, it's just very easy for me to picture, like, these rich dudes just kind of losing their mind and strangling a chick by accident. And then Epstein walks in and goes, all right, I guess we're going to have to clean this up and you're blackmail. I mean, you remember when the little kid was jumping out of that British building? Yeah. With a sheet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I always think about that. I think about all this stuff. The thing was that Mexican girl that was like, they're eating people. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I saw that. You know? And it would be really nice to get to the bottom of all this coded language.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah. I've seen accounts, different accounts of what that coded language is, but I just... Can't corroborate it or whatever? I don't know at this point. I'm just, I'm not... You guys know me. I want to be pretty confident. Yeah, that's what it's hard to figure out what the...
Starting point is 00:29:34 Like, because there was one thing, we were talking about something last week where, like, if you read it a few times, you can kind of make sense of it. Because these guys are also like, they're incoherent when it comes to spelling and talking and all that stuff. You think Epson's talking in code. he's typing out. You think it's a voice to text. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I think it could be maybe voice to text or something because like I've sent text messages where like it sounds like I'm on meth because I'm not looking at my phone and texting that I just said send. But like like with the pictures and like with everything together, it is definitely there's something going on. But like you can kind of like put it to the side of your mind if you're just like, oh, maybe that's a mistake or something like that. But it definitely seems like.
Starting point is 00:30:14 They think different. When I was up when we were driving up here, I was reading, um, Epstein and Woody Allen's wife talking about Anthony Weiner and she's just like that little girl She knows what she's doing That poor man What she's doing that poor man
Starting point is 00:30:27 And he's like I can't believe she thought He thought he was safe Talking to a 15 year old on the internet It's like dude What are you guys? And then Woody talks about like terminating someone Their life I mean
Starting point is 00:30:39 She turned out to be a little of mine She was Woody Allen For mind What he kind of escaped All the original Epstein stuff Woody Allen was, I don't remember Woody Allen being this like,
Starting point is 00:30:52 dinners with Woody. You know, what about him having Water Cronkite being friends with Dick Cavett? This is nuts. I know it. Woody was friends with just about anybody on the left. No, I mean Epstein. Oh, Epstein, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:04 That's fucking crazy, dude. The thing about Epstein is he was a connector. He connected a lot of people. Yeah. And one of the emails, he's using, Fergie to get to Prince Andrew.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Right. And that's what he does, is he uses people to get to other people. There were some scorn women in the email saying, like, I could now know that you were just using me. And it seems like everyone he was talking to was a transactional relationship to get to the next person. Before this, dude, it's like, it must be so hard for you to hang out with normal people. You're so smart. I see how you talk to people and get whatever you want. Like, master manipulator stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:44 He wouldn't have got me, though. No chance. As I said, psychopaths are really smooth. And you're not going to know that you're dealing with a psychopath unless they got something you want or you're an impediment to something. I got to remember this. This is like the yacht thing you have. That's very important. Like, they're only talking to you if they need something.
Starting point is 00:32:09 What about the, like the Prince Andrew stuff? They said he just got pulled in for like financial stuff. It wasn't even about it. It was giving information, trade information. to Epstein. So it had nothing to do with, like, hanging out on the plane with little girls or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:32:24 No. But it's a start. You should, like, tie Epstein justice to his financial crimes, and maybe someone would actually go crazy over it. It's that UK ambassador to America, Peter Mandelson. I mean, he was a guy that wrote to Epstein, or Epstein wrote to him,
Starting point is 00:32:43 I love the torture video. Yeah, he's the guy that's like, Leonardo de Caprio needs some money like that's Epstein's hitting him up about that yeah and that was weird too I mean it's Prince Andrew that's eyes wide shut yeah that there's a lot of like there's some stuff that's like
Starting point is 00:33:01 blowing people's mind the pictures and stuff like this but like to me like this shit has been out forever so like it's just I get like weirded out and now all of a sudden they're going to put all this stuff out like almost like a limited hangout and then like them trying real hard to tie it to people Pizza Gate to like maybe like hurt its credibility or something like that like something just seems off about the way they're we've already been through this with Pizza Gate yeah we're already like
Starting point is 00:33:25 sucked in and then it was like dude this what are we doing and then I don't know what that was all about yeah I don't know why they did that to us but because like the early pizza gate stuff it was just emails from WikiLeak to from Podesta to like everyone out like it was like normal stuff so like I don't understand like why it um it kind of just got like a kid went in there and shot the hard drive and then like a few years later he gets killed and everyone's like oh it was just some weirdos online talking crazy with Pizza gate i as i said i i looked into it and i could never really define any definitive information so with the stuff that's coming out now i mean if you take if you exclude even the pizzas and the muffins and the steaks,
Starting point is 00:34:17 you still have some very evil stuff. Yeah. I mean, very evil. And what we need is, you know, our government, the Trump administration is telling us that Epstein had no co-conspirators. They're sticking to that. It's a crazy one-man job. I was reading this Ladd Bible article about how Galane is fighting for her shit to be appealed
Starting point is 00:34:41 because she's supposed to be protected under the original thing. Immunity, yeah. She's saying one of the jurors was sexually abused and never disclosed that before. And, like, dude, like, when you read this thing, you're like, they should probably do a retrial thing. Yeah. I mean, I know she's guilty or whatever,
Starting point is 00:34:56 but, like, she brought up a lot of, her lawyers, like, brought up a lot of good points in that. Oh, my, dude, are they purposely fucking this up? Like, I don't know if they're going to pardon her or what, but she's getting, like, a pretty easy life right now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, she should be, in like a dungeon.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And bread and water should be like the extent of her of her diet. In these emails that you are, and all this stuff that you looked at they killed people? It's in the files that they might have killed people. Yeah. That's fucking nuts, dude. Well.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I mean, I guess it's not trafficking in kids. There's murder in the Franklin scandal of kids. and we were talking about this earlier. I believe that these guys get more and more and more violent to live on the edge. Yeah. To get cortisol or to amp them to steal something.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's like when dudes have to look at weirder and weirder porn. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think that you have it with these power brokers. And a lot of them are psychopaths are sociosia. Yes. This is my new running theory that when they start getting kids in school, once they figure out you're a psychopaths, like, we're fastlining you to whatever political power, like whatever we need you to do because like it doesn't, like what they're doing like Pam Bondi, like all these people, Cash Patel and Bonino, like, what they're doing makes no sense. Like they're obviously lying and protecting pedophiles. So either they're compromised or they're psychopaths. Like I don't think there's any like in between. I mean, it could be both. Yeah. What's weird, what's weird is to say their second pass and they only talk to you if they need you. And he's got the, he's got that chick, Elizabeth Loftus, the memory. Yes, false memory syndrome foundation.
Starting point is 00:36:54 This is a big, kind of a big deal if Epstein is looking into this chick. Yeah, I mean, that's like the, that's speed dial for anyone who gets kit with pedophilia or something like that. And the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, it's folded, but it was founded by, a pedophile and his wife who is also his sister. You know, dude. What? I'll start somewhere, I guess. Pamela and Peter Fried,
Starting point is 00:37:23 they started the False Memory Syndrome Foundation because their child said that she'd been molested by Peter. Oh, I mean. And they started this unbelievable, there is no such thing as false memory syndrome yeah i mean and they were actually as as i said they were step brother and step sister and then they became husband and wife and peter fried was he was uh he had a phdm mathematics but he was
Starting point is 00:37:55 a nut a psycho and uh and and and this is kind of interesting because the alternative weekly in philadelphia did an article on the false Seminary Center Foundation, and they were interviewing Peter Fryden, and they said, well, how do we know that you didn't molest your daughter? Now, here's a guy with a Ph.D. and mathematics, and this is what he said, the dog would have barked there. I don't sweat. That's up there with I don't sweat. Yeah, I swear to God, I remember seeing that on, like, Donahue or something when I was a little kid. What, false memory? You should do these shows about these crazy theories that, and to, I don't
Starting point is 00:38:39 of like on purpose to introduce them to the United States or just to be like this is crazy but they would have people on like did you know that there's false memories yeah just throwing that out there swear to god I remember seeing that well what they did and what they still do I mean the false memory syndrome foundation is disintegrated as it should have but they go around and they testify at child abuse tribes oh my god saying that the child ringer like that we're good yeah yeah bringing this check. Saying that the child's memories are fallible and that. So.
Starting point is 00:39:16 You just arrest everyone from that foundation. Someone like Loftus made millions of dollars. Oh, yeah. Flying around. And that's what they do. They fly around the world and they get called by very. There was a False Memory Syndrome Foundation guy named Harrison Pope who was called in to debunk these Boys Town kids that were molested by Father James
Starting point is 00:39:38 Kelly. And Father James Kelly was a major pedophile. He was a pedophile in New York upstate. He molested a bunch of kids in upstate. And then the Catholic church in its infinite wisdom transferred him to Boys Town. Where he became the number two guy.
Starting point is 00:39:56 It's like sending two to the honey. Because I was looking for victims that had been trafficked by King and I ended up talking to a bunch of victims that had been lost my father Kelly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And I think that Kelly was compromised. And because the priests at Boys Town, they were the ultimate authority. And if you wanted a pass for the weekend, you could get one from the priest. So, and then Kelly, and Boystown has protected Kelly. It's really egregious. And then he ended up in Las Vegas as a pastor at a jail. So there you go. that's where he ended up
Starting point is 00:40:40 there was one preach that boys town who ended up in Argentina so obviously yeah I mean what were you going to ask him about the boys the guy from the
Starting point is 00:40:51 body laptops and stuff I don't know if you want to talk about that actually on the podcast but like the whole boys lawyer like it's boys Edwards ponder is this who
Starting point is 00:41:03 are these the guys Ponger is a is he separate Bonjar is a CIA asset or was a CIA asset for sure and he took part in arms dealing
Starting point is 00:41:16 people think it's a ran contra but it's not in 1979 the Iranian students took all the people that were at the U.S. Embassy hostage it was like 52 of them and
Starting point is 00:41:29 the Reagan administration had George Bush senior who would be the vice president, and he had been head of the CIA, and then it had William Casey, who was intelligence, and he would become head of the CIA
Starting point is 00:41:47 and the Reagan administration. So the Carter administration sent Pontinger to Spain to talk to one of the Iranians, and on behalf of the Carter administration, but he didn't talk to him on behalf of the Carter administration. He talked to him on behalf of the Reagan campaign. And that's when they started working out this deal where the United States would sell them arms if they held the hostages until after Reagan was elected.
Starting point is 00:42:19 That is insane. This is October surprise. Is that the first October surprise? That's the first one. And October surprise predates Iran-Contra. Okay. Or laid the foundation for Ranconra. So Ponzer is part of this deal.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And one of his clients, is Cyrus Hashemi, who is an Iranian arms dealer. And the Department of Justice has punger on tape putting together an arms deal with Hashemi. They got them on tape. And Rudolph Giuliani is the U.S. attorney
Starting point is 00:42:56 that's prosecuting the case. America's marriage. And Rudolph Giuliani or the Department of Justice, they lost the tapes. That incriminate. Stan Pottinger. And then around that time, Stan Pottinger was in business with Jeffrey Epstein. They were ostensibly selling tax avoidant strategies to the rich, but they were both
Starting point is 00:43:20 arms dealers. Do you think that's how we started? Like the kids just, or like the human trafficking kind of just came after he like got into the mud with arms dealing? You know, it's a chicken or egg kind of thing. So Epstein was a very talented piano player and a very very. gift, very gifted at science and math. And Donald Barr, who was in the OSS, and he's the father of William Barr, who was the Attorney General that covered up Franklin and then covered up Epstein
Starting point is 00:43:51 and a CI guy for sure. So Donald Barr had this special program where talent, they'd bring talented kids from all over New York, and they would spend like Saturdays. Right. And, and he oversaw that and I believe and I haven't been able to prove it but I believe that's where he met Epstein There's a part of Lolita not to like get too skits out
Starting point is 00:44:18 but there's a part of Lolita at the end where the girl goes to a summer camp And basically the dude that's been like Trafficking her and fucking her figures out that she was already molested by this other dude that ran a summer play program And like this is like fucking mind fucking him Right but Epstein went to like he was a talented arts kid and went to interlock in
Starting point is 00:44:40 the summertime and he went to like he went to like the same thing that L'Lita went to it. It's fucking weird when I think about it I'm like this guy kind of lived like parallels to this book yeah yeah but if Barr found him when he was a kid and he's like because in the birthday book it's like he's playing accordion like all this stuff makes no sense whatever I just think there's something about these guys that like fucking it fucks with my head if I started thinking about that's yeah there's Psychophist. Donald Barr was a by the book fascist guy.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I mean, he totally by the book. He's the nut that wrote that space relations. Yeah. So there's no way he would have hired a college dropout. Fuck no. For Dalton, which is probably the most prestigious school. There's no way he would have hired Epstein without kind of some type of prior relationship. Yeah, the interview he does with Bannon, like everyone says he's a genius.
Starting point is 00:45:34 but when he's talking that interview, he kind of sounds like a fucking moron. Well, I mean, the guy obviously has a certain degree of intelligence to do what he did. I mean, he sounds like a guy that kind of grew up, he's got that Brooklyn Rasp to him. And his grammar is certainly not very good with the emails.
Starting point is 00:45:56 But the guy had some kind of intelligence to do everything. But you also have to keep in mind, he was protected. Yes. I mean, if I was a psychopath and I wanted to do illegal stuff and I was protected,
Starting point is 00:46:13 I could do a lot of stuff, man. So he's freewheeling and he's protected, but he's protected by intelligence agencies? Is that what it is? Or it's like he belongs to intelligence? Like, who's protecting him? Is it mafia?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Well, when he got busted and when the Palm Beach Police Department started to investigate in 2000, And then they had that ridiculous grand jury that said he had molested to say. Those little girl interviews are rough to read. So, I mean, and at that point, the Florida knew of anywhere from 17 to 23 victims. And Lana Bell Lovic, who was a special prosecutor, only called two. And one had been molested by Epstein when she was 14, she was now 16.
Starting point is 00:47:00 One had been molested by Epstein multiple times when she was 16, and now she was 16. and now she was 18. And she just skewered those four girls. And actually, the grand jurors who are just, grand jurors are just people that have been shown up for jury duty and they've been found into a grand jury. They don't know what, the only thing they know is what the special prosecutor presents them. And as far as evidence and also calls the witnesses.
Starting point is 00:47:29 So, Lana Bell-Lovic just skewered those. those poor girls. And actually the grand jurors were calling them prostitutes. Holy fuck. Just really bad. Yeah. So Michael Ryder, who was the chief of the Palm Beach Police Department, who was really one of the major unsung heroes in all this,
Starting point is 00:47:50 he took so much heat. I bet. So much heat. If you're throwing that out there, like, you're pissing off some people. And yeah, he took a lot. He's really a good guy, man. And really the unsung. song hero of Epstein. And he went to the Department of Justice and said that grand jury is like
Starting point is 00:48:10 one of the greatest miscarriage of justice in modern history. You've got to fix this. Now, what I had thought before all these documents came out is because Acosta was told to stand down. He was a U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida. He was told to stand down. And I didn't know, I thought that he was going to impanel a grand jury and didn't, or he impaneled one briefly and then adjourned it. But actually, there was a full-scale investigation at Epstein by the feds. And they drafted a 60-count indictment.
Starting point is 00:48:46 And I didn't know that until recently. And then they gave the sweetheart deal? And then, yeah, and then there was a lot of pressure put on the cost. Actually, there's an email about it, were the we're a Ken Starr who's a snake Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:49:02 We know all about We've been looking into these lawyers Because it's like this is how They need like Dershowitz Star And I don't know Like black
Starting point is 00:49:11 I mean He had A dream team right up there With OJ Right Because Ken Starr was with Clinton scandal And he was with the
Starting point is 00:49:18 Kavanaul scandal So it seems like Everywhere this two goes There's some like weird Sexual scandal It's a Yeah So
Starting point is 00:49:26 So Alexander Acosta had the heat put on him. Now, there's only two people in the government that can tell a U.S. attorney to stand down. One is the Attorney General and one is president. Those are the only two guys. So, and Alexander Acosta, as a U.S. attorney, isn't going to unilaterally cover up a pedophile network. Not going to happen. He's not going to put himself on a limb. The Attorney General was Alberto Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:49:53 He isn't going to unilaterally cover up a pedophile network. aophile network. He's not going to put himself on him like that. That order came from Bush, too. Damn. The cognitively challenged George Bush. Yeah. And so when you talk about intelligence, power, connections, I mean, the sweetheart deal came from the president of the United States of America. So like, dudes like boys. Are they good lawyers? Yeah, you get some more. Boys? Oh, yeah. I've got him coffee.

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