WAR MODE - HOMEFREE pt.1 (Ft. Michael Wann)

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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What would I have done? I would have done a legitimate investigation to find out what exactly happened on 9-11. How did they know who did this so quickly like they did Lee Harvey Oswald? Who's going to investigate the investigators? Who's going to investigate the prosecutors? Who's going to hold them accountable? Who's going to hold us public officials accountable? And that's all we're trying to do here in addition to trying to find the truth.

Do you honestly and truly in your heart believe that Sandy Hook actually happened? Yes or no? No. All right. Number two. And I'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you're probably to take off firearms. It's only just begun. You can conclude that this whole frigging thing is subjective.

And when you realize that this whole friggin' thing, and when I say, this whole frigging thing like wherever the hell this is like you know we're gonna we're gonna go back to that in a second it's like when you realize like it is all so malleable and then because the I think what what what is a a trap or a stumbling block or a mainstream thinker or mainstream like mindset and it makes sense to have a mainstream mindset if you understand how human consciousness forms is that they don't realize how subjective life and experience is

in terms of what it feels like. And once you can accept or like settle into what I thought was solid may not be quite as solid, then the game changes a little bit because as long as you think that you know what's actually happening, it's easier to be guided because you have that point of reference.

I've thought of this before because it sounds really far out. But like if you wanted to, you know how it's all like we got hit with like, there's baby boomers. There's Gen X. Yeah. Right? I've been getting into this shit with reality tunnels from this guy Robert Anton Wilson bro. Tom turned me on this with like Timothy Leary acid stuff. But like if you wanted to control mass populations, you would try to make the general message

of a reality tunnel of one generation pretty generic. Yeah. So that like when it's time to message to them, it's easy. Yeah. All right. Can I judge? Can I jump with that? So so absolutely, absolutely right.

So when you think about reality, like controlling a lot of people, you want to go and get the most simplistic way of getting everyone on the same page. Because if I could get everyone on this page, well, then I just need to move that page. And they could have like different reality tunnels built up upon them. that but then the the foundational level of what they are understanding life as what they share is where you begin to manipulate reality so that being said okay so so what days today i have no idea what day of the week what day of the week what Wednesday so today's Wednesday right and i would say like let's let's let's let's let's assume there's there's what do they say like six billion or seven billion people in the player right yeah so let's go with that

If that's even close. But, but just, so this is where this game gets real tricky is, you realize that we have to build up on ideas on something, but we realize all the ideas that we've been given are questionable. Right. So, so you can't necessarily throw everything out,

but you take it, you're like, okay, this is the best I got. That's what we're doing right now. So, so seven billion people. So of the seven billion people, let's say like maybe like a billion of them, like they're living in the jungle somewhere.

And they're living like that. type of lifestyle. Yeah. So the, the other 80% or the 90% of, of the remainder of that, that 7 billion people, they're all in agreement that today's Wednesday.

Yeah. They're all in agreement. And then when you take a moment and you actually think, you're like, there's no fucking such thing as Wednesday. There's no fucking such thing as Wednesday. Like, you can say there's sunrise. Sunrise is real.

I could say, yeah, it's real. I could say the equinox is real. I can say, Those things are objectively, like we could all agree upon. But Wednesday is arbitrary as fuck. Yes. And if I could get 90% of the population to agree that today's Wednesday doesn't matter anything other than that.

It's like, I got them all in the same reality, Donald. Yeah. I mean, I saw a thing that grabbed me up. It was like people actually believe October is the 10th month. It says October. So yes. So you begin to like, so like what you begin to. This is what I meant.

like earlier when I was saying like when when you can begin to ease into the fact of all of this shit that you have been indoctrinated with and I and I want to come back and remind me to come back to define what I mean by indoctrinated but what you've been indoctrinated with may not actually be objectively real like it's subjectively Wednesday I'm not denying that yeah like I'm not saying that like Wednesday like Wednesdays. doesn't matter. I'm not saying like don't forget the days of the week. I'm just saying remember like this is just part of the game. So when you begin, when you can begin to become comfortable with the fact that all of the stuff that you thought was like unshakable,

like it's unshakable. It's Wednesday. I forgot how much you bend minds. Ben like like it's like and the whole world like everything didn't collapse. Everything and collapse when you can realize like well Wednesday's just a fucking idea well then you could begin to like then ease into some deeper stuff and deeper stuff and deeper stuff and deeper stuff and you can begin to tease and what I mean by tease is like pull apart you've got like a thread and you can begin to pull all of the things apart and I don't think you're going to necessarily get to an answer and what I mean by that is like the ultimate truth is this we don't know what this place is Yes.

Like, it's like, even if you were told, even if I was told, like, what this place really is, like, I wouldn't know if that's accurate or not. It's like there's just telling you that. It's like, if you told me the truth, I would not be able to to recognize the difference from the truth from the, from like a lie because I'm within it. Yeah. And I don't even think it really matters. Like, if you found out tomorrow, like, actually, this is like a DARPA, a DARPA simulation. It's always been a DARPA simulation. You've always been like a...

But would that matter? Would that fucking matter? Would that take away from the fact that you have a child at home? No. So in a certain level, like, that shit doesn't even matter. It wouldn't take away, but I would definitely be... My sputty sense would go up a little bit higher when I'm sitting there going, watching videos like that you make.

And you're telling me, all right, Pierce Morgan's fucking whatever was in the OSS. And I'm like watching shit. Because at the same time, I'm looking at the same time, I'm looking into the fact that that James Bond, 007, Ian Fleming, that dude helped start the OSS at the same year that they started Playboy

to control the post-World War II fantasy for men. Oh my God. So they were rolling out the intelligence agencies, but it was 007, dude, and the bad guys are Specter, and there's hot chicks in this magazine. And then they rolled out Operation Mindfuck in that magazine.

Jesus, fuck. It fucks me up, all this stuff. But I'm just saying, Pierce Morgan is on a reality show, show with Donald Trump, wins this fucking thing. At some point, he does a sit down in Israel with Tucker Carlson, whose dad was also in this. Yeah. So, like, how much of this is such a tight-knit little group of intelligence assets, creating

the media that we've seen after World War II? That's what I'm saying. Like, when did this shit start? Yeah. So let me, let me throw this out there, like, as we're getting into the mind-bending stuff, because it can be unsettling for people. And you've got to be respectful for that. So, you know, this is why this is such a funny game.

It's because I'm going to go quote Einstein. You're like, well, Einstein's a fraud. I'm like, yeah, you're absolutely right. All that sort of shit. So I'm not denying all of that. But there's a quote attributed to him, which I think is really fucking valuable, which is the most important question you can ask is, is this a dangerous or is this a safe universe? Oh, yeah, yeah.

And so the idea behind that question is your, because remember, we talked about how everything is subjective. Yeah. So the subjectiveness of that question is, like, are you going to meet this absolute fucking mind fuck with like, am I afraid of it? Or do I realize it's always been a mind fuck and it's always kind of work. Like I've laughed a lot and I've had a lot of fun and like,

you know, it's ups and downs and like, can I settle into this unknowing? And because, and I can settle into it is because, at the foundational faith of being here is like I don't really think that that it's a scary place or it's a bad place or something like that even though I could be scared at moments but like the big picture so that being said yeah like everything that we're taught in pop culture is heavily heavily heavily influenced to by the intelligence agency network yeah so let me pause with that we only know what we think of about the intelligence agency network because of what they told us to think about them yes so it's self-replic so it's like do i not trust them so if i think

this is a dangerous now or world if i think that the spies and the intelligence network is really the bad guys well then i'm fucked right yeah this is what my brain does be when i'm falling asleep and so like like why i you want to settle it that down though so i'll give you a moment uh Spud, I just want to finish this, but that's so important because it is natural to feel that way. It's natural for us to like,

let me get to the bottom of this. Let me figure out what's real and what's not real. And we begin to realize, like, it's much, it's just fucking like, it's, it's malleable. And so much of it is going to be

about your, about your approach. And I'm going to say one last thing before I hand it back to you, Spud is like so, so, so, 007, like,

007, comes from John D. Oh, fuck. Right? Like, John D. Like, that's where it comes from. So we know that. And we know all of the things about John D.

So when we begin to, like... Did you freak out when the king came? What do you mean? When the king recently came here. What do you mean? Do you remember when the King Charles came? Like, recently? Did you think that there was any kind of weird shit with that?

Yes. Okay. So this is where we get into some creepy deep stuff. So, do you remember, this is like, do you remember the Virginia Tech Massacre? Yes. Yeah. Okay. At the time, this was 2000. That was the Asian kid, right? Yeah, that was, that was the Korean. Yeah. Um, so this was 2007. And if you couldn't imagine how, what the, the world mindset was in 2000. I remember it. Yeah. You're like six years post 9-11. Everyone is like starting to see, like, when the towers fell in 9-11, it was like, everyone was conditioned to believe prior to that,

that if anyone were to fly into U.S. airspace, that there'd be a scramble jets. And then so suddenly that fell away, right? And so all of that. And then that was even like predicated by like the buildup of Columbine, like all of this stuff like adds up, adds up, adds up. So, so Virginia Tech was a big deal and it was at a school, but you're also like Virginia Tech. And it didn't fit the normal modus operandi of how those sciops worked at that time because it was this Korean kid. I maybe had three names. I don't remember. But the point I want to make with this, and I'm going to link this back to the return of the king, was that was overlapping when the Virginia Tech shooting happened.

It was like on the April 19th, you know, all this stuff happened. Oh, yeah. That's one of the favorite days. It was one of the favorite day, favorite day. favorite days. And Queen Elizabeth the second was just like King Charles. She was in an official visit the United States during that time because she was here to celebrate the 400th anniversary of the establishment of the Jamestown colony. Right. Because Jamestown Colony is where both the 13 colonies and therefore the United States began. And it's also the first, um, uh,

permanent colony that began the British Empire. So the British Empire and the United States, like theoretically are always the same, but they both are linked in time and space to Jamestown. So where I'm going with all of this is so Queen Elizabeth was here and she was coming to Virginia because Jamestown is in Virginia. And so it was early May, it was May 7th, I believe, was when the Jamestown 400th anniversary took place. The bushes were there, a whole bunch of muckety mucks were there. And so Queen Elizabeth was when United States soil, it was like a, like, let's say, a one-month sort of tour, kind of like what was going on with the king, because these things are very,

very, like, managed when there's an official state visit. And she comes into Virginia and was already playing like a week after the Virginia Tech shooting. and she, I think, was speaking at the Virginia State, like Senate building, whatever you call that, in Richmond. And then there was this girl who was like a survivor from the shooting. Like she got shot in the arm. It was like cute little college co-ed.

And she gives the queen, she gives the queen a bracelet or a necklace of garnet and like some other stone, the colors of Virginia Tech. and there were 32 or 33 stones for the number of victims. And when you start to think about that, start to think about that, it's like, like, you know, the victim comes to the queen, he gets shot. And she's like, here, Queen Mother, like, thank you for the opportunity as you're, like, I mean, the whole thing.

And this is when you're like, well, fuck, Mike, you just said a moment ago that I need, is this a safe place or a dangerous place? But this sounds pretty fucking dangerous. And I'm like, well, yeah, but, I mean, Maybe this is when you go to the question, like, what happens when you die or what have you? Like somehow it had, you have to each individual. I'm not saying I know an answer. I'm saying this.

Like each individual, if they are willing to take the type of internal inquiry of like, what the fuck is going on? Because a lot of people won't. I think most people's moms and dads and uncles aren't willing to have that question. But if you are, you are going to have to face these like uncomfortable, um, truths like that really did fucking happen yeah they really did like shoot all those kids and they really did the victim they gave like a present like memorializing to the queen mom like that really did fucking happen like somehow you need to justify that in a way that doesn't make you go insane or doesn't make you go paranoid or doesn't make you become part of it so one last thing

I know I say I keep on saying one last thing so so going back to john D Going back to this, so John D. not only is like known as like, you know, a magician, he's also known to be the first spy master of Britain. In fact, he is credited with terming, coming up with the term British Empire and he laid out the legal justification and the vision of what would become, you know, as history tells us, whatever the fuck that means, that the biggest empire in the history of, of, you know, the, They told us yesterday. Yeah, exactly. So this over this still, this overlaps also with something which is called the Rosicrucians. The Rosicrucians, yeah. So the, so the Rosicrucians, if you, like, take that seriously and you, like, read the official, like, documentation of, like, how, like, smart people went and studied the Rosicrucians. And the, the real Rosicrucian movement happened.

I want to say, like, maybe the, like, from the 1500s to the 1600s. And again, I'm using a timeline, which theoretically could not even happen. Well, I mean, they say like, just for reference. Just for reference. Just for reference. But what they say, the people who study that is that the Rosicrucians, that their actual modus operandi was to create so much like what I'm not going to say this word correctly. Obfuscation. Yeah.

Obsfucation. Like to confusion, they purposefully wanted people to be confused as to, were they good guys? were they bad guys? Were they real? Were they fake? And I'm going to suggest, and I'm going to loop this all the way back to where this began,

that that's the same thing which we could say about the modern intelligence. Yeah, that's operation in mind's fuck. You don't know, like they purposefully want you not to know if they're good guys or bad guys. And it is my personal conclusion slash opinion slash wish

that, like, no, it's not as simple like they're good guys and bad guys. Yeah. Right. All right, I'm going to pause now for a moment, for comments. It seems like they did that with movies.

Like now movies, like the CIA was always doing like James Bond was killing the bad guy. Now they're kind of like playing with the idea that maybe we're bad guys. Who's the we in the word? Like the CIA and like the deep state type of people like now all of a sudden it's like changed up to where like they used to be like our military and our government did everything that was like good. And now they're saying maybe maybe not.

I think it's like The thing that freaks me out is When you're talking about the queen And all this kind of stuff Maybe this Maybe there are people that do know what this place is That freaks me out And if they have ill intent

That freaks me out The other part of it is Forever and ever and ever There's been these royals and elites Nobody ever watched them Nobody ever saw them You were just here about the king People probably lived their entire life

lived and died and never knew who the king was. Up until, like, television came around, and I heard this really sick soundbite of LBJ talking about when television got popular, he was like, let's see what man does with his mirror. He said that, which is fucking far out, bro. When they were talking about cutting funding to Fred Rogers, and he was trying to make kids feel like this is a safe place.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Mr. Rodgers. Mr. Rodgers. They were trying to cut his money, and LBJ was like, let's see if we can get some money going, for PBS because it's like you kind of want to control what's going on like what the kids are

learning. Yeah. The thing that freaks me out is if people do know what this place is and they have ill intent. You know what I mean? And they're like tied in with these elites that have been doing blood sacrifices. Yeah. And they make up like a little agency that's going to be like, tell them this. The king's coming though and we're going to do we're going to do our thing. And they're not used to having cameras on them. But they'll be like, oh yeah, show them something. but they still got to do their harvesting on April 19th. Yeah. I don't know.

That's the shit that freaks me out. There's definitely like that's a legitimate narrative. That's a legitimate narrative. And so a couple things. So to your point, Billy, about the changing of how maybe the good guys are now presented is the bad guys. CIA still has all of their, and the military industrial complex

has all of their influences within Hollywood. And the guy who's like the president of Hollywood, the guy who oversees the Academy Awards, I don't know who it is nowadays, but he still has an office in Washington, D.C. So they're always connected. So realize that if any narrative like changes

within Hollywood, it unless it's like a complete independent film and does not have like mainstream distribution, you realize that it still is going through that channel. So that had to have been improved. And so that has to be like the official story that they want you to change that. So we take that into consideration. And I want to go and just like add in, add in spud, just like another narrative, which I sometimes fall back on for myself.

I'm not saying this is accurate or not, but I'm just giving you another. narrative because we don't we really don't know so we're gonna go back to like let's say 2018 I've been in the the like conspiracy world for at least 15 years by now yeah and around 2018 Tataria's every that's when we got activated pretty much right right and I'm like hey I remember 2017 2016 2015 and all the researchers then they never mentioned any fucking Tataria and like why is it everywhere yeah and so I'm not necessarily necessarily saying like, like Tatari is true or false or anything like that, but I'm recognizing that there was a point that in the alternative like, uh, all conspiracy world, like he didn't

talk about this and then all the site was everywhere. And it's very, very compelling because it just makes common sense when you look at all the Tatarian buildings. You're like, yeah, this doesn't make sense. How the hell did they build that? Like, and so now we have a narrative. I really, really embrace the Tatarian narrative personally, not necessarily because I think it's accurate or not accurate. I don't know. But more so is because it introduced a new narrative into our minds. And when you have that new narrative, like now I don't necessarily have this either or of like, you know, they're hiding history or the history's false.

So that being said. So I like to play with this a lot within my own mind is, well, okay, well, what would a Tatarian lifestyle look like? Like if everything was based upon like free energy and buildings that last forever. And not ask myself questions like, well, how did they deal with money? Would there be like people who are waiters? Like, why would there be like, you know, all these sorts of questions. And ultimately what I would come to is like, if. it's the way I'm at least envisioning it is it's like not built upon like other people being like

like the hierarchy that we know of how civilization works nowadays. So somehow like there's this like amazing like Tatarian like realm. So that being said, I imagine somewhere like like that there's this this wonderful like Tatarian fair like I'm imagining in the Tatarian world like basically what you do is you travel across whatever we think or earth is to like different great cities and different parts of earth and you like get to experience all the different parts of of reality and like it's like it's like a fun experience of being human you still have emotions and all that sort of stuff and in one of these like what we think of is the world fairs that they have because all the tatarian stuff like the buildings they're like

beautiful and they last forever it's not like junk like like what we think of as equipment and they've got this like enormous, this enormous, like, kind of like table. If you've ever seen like a Christmas time where they have, like, they did this a lot. They do this in Lancaster still, but an enormous setup of like trains and towns and like maybe 50 people can stand around it and look at the train in the Christmas village. Same concept, but this is Tataria and they've got this other like false realm, but they've got Tatarian technology. And the Tatarian technology is like, they get to.

be like simulations inside this like realm like the like the the the the train station that we think of because this realm is all just an inversion of something else and so the tatarian realm what we're inversion of is this like false like crazy reality and the tatarians are actually playing this game and like you're a tatarian and i'm a tatarian and you're playing here and like this and this goes back to and i'm on a train set and you're on a train set no you're actually you you're driving that like that amazing yeah right of a machine and this feels like you're like this is 72

years of life and it feels so long but it's because time is actually relative and it's experienced relative and this is actually only 15 minutes in Tatarian time but the point why I'm describing it's kind of like immortality the point I'm trying to

or the reason why I'm bringing this up like I'm not saying that's actually happening or not but if we don't have at least other narratives which made, which don't, which feel good about like, your happy place. Maybe not even so much a happy place,

but in a way that this makes sense, in a way that there are like elites harvesting blood. And like like like that, like that because there's something which is kind of fun about being human about being scared. People pay money to go to like haunted houses because they want to actually have this. of being terrified, but also know that I'm not really going to get chainsawed. That seems to be built into the experience.

And so as you move forward, like whether the Totarian story, which I told you is accurate or not, if you as an individual, if me as an individual, if a listener is an individual, does not have a narrative where it all makes sense and maybe where you're not always like fighting because there are certain narratives where it's like, you know, this is a fight and it's good versus evil. And maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. But if you're living from that mindset, you know, going back to like, is this a safe place or not safe place? You're going to move through your entire experience here like on guard. No, I see what you're saying. Like giving a cozy narrative might be what they have to do. Well, when I'm not saying they, I'm saying we. Or me or you, it's like when you're saying like when I'm going to, like when I'm going to, you, it's like when I'm going. going to sleep and I'm trying to fucking like not go insane and like all of that like there has to

because as I said we don't know what if we were even told the actual truth of what's happening here we wouldn't know like if what I told you know they don't even know why we sleep and who's the they in the science is right right like that's a we we don't even know what like animal's sleeping is like nobody's really pinned this down nobody knows what dreams are and we know dog's dream if you've ever had a dog oh yeah it's like it's like it's not just a huge human thing, like all of that. So let me go take a couple steps back before we move forward. So this is the sort of stuff which, and I can get into like, you know, how personally,

if you're curious, like how I arrive to where I've arrived. Yeah. I mean, I'm like, but where I would say I've been for the past couple years, like I've been on this path, as I said for a long time, but this path, at least of questions. and of teasing out what's bullshit and what's real and like how does consciousness work is without like this being my my objective that I'm going to create this system like a system kind of created and and the the term I use but it's not limited to that term is what I call grounded consciousness which is like where can I find um the place where there's no

contradictions and stories and allow my mind to sit there so that as I move through this experience, I'm always grounding myself in, I'm clear on what I'm thinking and why I'm thinking and, you know, let's go back to Donald Rumsfeld. I'm clear on what are the knowns and what are the unknowns and the fact that they're unknown unknowns. That's really good, that's good information or a good so so the the grounded consciousness

is an approach of recognizing like as things happen both in terms of like information which comes into your system and then the actual experience of you being you

of like well what actually is happening and it's not to necessarily solve the question of the mystery of what is this place, but it is to establish myself so that I'm as grounded in meeting this mystery,

this strange-ass place where I don't know why I dream, but I know I dream, with as much like a solid footing as possible. Yeah. It is nuts that there's like, you could get to that level and live there. It's really hard to do it because everything's so distracting.

Yeah. And you're like, just fighting for survival and all this stuff. And then in the meantime, like the government is like doing Q drops and telling us there's aliens. And if you told me that in 2018, I'd be like, no chance.

Absolutely. Like it's like the government's like, grab your popcorn and enjoy the show. Like it has changed. Like what the way people like what was considered normal in reality has shifted so much. Or more so it's like if you think of like

the bell curve, of and the center of the bell curve is what mainstream thought is. And typically what our society has defined insanity as is how far away an individual's thinking is from the bell curve of what's happening and not happening. And if you're still able to pay your taxes, you're given a little bit more leave. So like you can say crazy shit. And if you don't pay your taxes, well, then they'll lock you up. but you could be Howard Hughes and say crazy shit,

but you're given a little bit more leeway. So last weekend, I was at my youngest song. He just graduated high school. And I go there and it's like, so I can talk about this sort of stuff from a very like intellectual and intellectualize everything. At the end of the day, like I'm still experienced this as a human and I've got like, I've got like my own personal history

and all that sort of shit that comes along with having human consciousness and being, you know, experienced this. as a human being. And so it's, it's weird. It's weird to go back to this stuff, you know. And I go and I see my,

my former brother-in-law. And I used to have, in many ways, like the perfect paradigm or society life. Like, I really found and carved out a great sort of spot, like as much of the great spot

as you can get. And I had great relationships with all these stuff. people. And I see my, my former brother-in-law who, who I have a great relationship with. And I'm talking to him. And this is just last weekend. And he's talking and he's a dentist. So like right there, like that tells you like, he's a very successful dentist. And he's like, and he, and I'm there with this other guy who I also have known for a long time when I'm friends with. And they're talking about the Mandela effect. And they're having out CERN. Yeah. And they're talking about it.

Like, I'm like, these guys know what the fuck are talking about in terms of like Mandela effect. And all of these things, they're kind of like laughing. So we're dealing with like the mainstream bell curve of what's normal. And I can remember so clearly. Like my, so my boys would have been babies. And I was on a trip with him and his baby. So this is like 16, 17 years ago. And I'm with him and his then wife.

And we're outside and we're like in the Finger Lakes region of New York. And we look up. And I'm like, you know what those things are upstairs. up in the sky. He's like, what do you talk about? I'm like, those are called chem trail. And I start, and I remember this so clearly. You're keeping a lid on this for the most part?

I mean, for the most part. Like, like, a normal dude. You're looking up at the sky, sawing and outside. I found myself, like, I was able. I mean, from the outside looking in, maybe like, I was always like, like a little bit different in my thinking. But the world, the paradigm worked for me. like all of the things that the paradigm valued, particularly, like, growing up in the 70s,

80s, being an adult in the 90s and 2000s, like, it worked for me. Like, it's like, like, I'm, I've got all the stuff that they say that are privileges, right? Right. And I also really, like, I know how to communicate with people and I know how to develop rapport. And I know, like, when's it appropriate to rock a boat and when it's not appropriate to rock a boat. Yes. And in fact, the reason I'm no longer married is probably because it's not. 9-11 because that began the that began the end of it when I started like learning about 9-11 and I would

start talking to it about my then-wife and it would call the reason why I talk about I know that really dude I don't know you're doing just went through coke so it's like that was like the beginning of mine like the end of our relationship and it wasn't so much that she could not she did not want to, that she thought that what I was saying was ridiculous, but she was saying, what you're saying to me is causing so much internal distress that I don't want to fucking deal with that. And I respect the hell out of it. It's like if you don't want to be like I don't, if I'm in deep sleep, don't fucking pour a glass of water. Yeah. So it's like there's that. There's that thing. So going back to my brother-in-law, I remember like so, but I still would kind of like I would, I would, I would, I would,

I would like feel like where reality test. You let a little pressure out. And I remember so clearly like telling him and this is like he's a, he's like a scientist or he went to he's got science classes in him because he went to dental school. And I'm telling him about chem trails and they're looking at me like I'm so freaking nuts. And then here I am like 16 years later. And he's talking about the Mandela effect. Yeah.

Like it's just the most normal like thing. And so that's where I meant like. reality has shifted. So going back to your point of like what, like, I don't, I can't explain why, but I know that the fact that the president of the United States, the, the tweets that are said to come from him, which are just like accepted by the general population, I'm like that, this is not the same world. That could have never have happened 15 years ago.

And now it's like, that's the norm. Yeah, I don't know if it's like, I don't know if they're doing it on purpose or if it's just natural, naturally happening because of the internet and then people are capitalizing on it. I think that's what's going on with all the Emmanuel stuff. Well, why does it matter? It doesn't. I'm just saying like, I said that's what's going on. So grounded consciousness. So grounded consciousness is the recognition of this is like, I know that this is being sent out and I know that people are receiving this and I like populations.

And I know that people are like responding this way or that way. That is a functional truth. Like, that's the grounded. When I then go and add my opinion as to what I think is real, I'm not saying don't have an opinion. But I'm saying I'm able to recognize the difference between the two. And I'm like, well, if, so this goes into like the whole quantum mechanics, what they call a priest. What are they called? Superposition, I think that's what it's called, which is basically like when you don't know the answer yet.

Like, like it's potential. Like, I'm very comfortable. Like if I don't need within myself to answer a question, like whether it's real or not real, whether this is AI generated, whether Donald Trump is a time traveler. Like I don't really like I don't need to have a concluded opinion on whether I think it's this or that. I can play with those ideas. But I'm going to I'm going to ground myself with the fact that I do know that this is being, this is happening for whatever reason. It's not a there's not enough. there's not that much meat on the bone when you don't, when you don't like answer that question, or at least you don't value your opinion thinking it's right, but you're able to move through things cleanly

because now you're not emotionally connected to a particular story. That's what I like about the Mandela Effect one. It's really good for like people, dude, because people think about it though on, like I think about like this, people will die on the hill of the fruit of the loon thing, right? And, but...

Get angry about it. Yeah, but it doesn't matter, but just think about how that branding alone created, like, a memory in a, through the reality tunnels of, like, a cohort. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like, there's so many people that will be like, dude, that's for real. Berenstine Bears, that's for real. All this stuff. Nelson Mandela. That's why it's named Nelson Mandela thing. Yeah.

But, like, just the fact that we can, collectively make up these false memories is something to think about because you're making up your reality anyway so you're just remembering the reality you made up or if it was real and they fucked with your reality either either way it doesn't matter it's hard it's hard to know like have you ever to me and this is what i would recommend for someone who like this is the cleanest way to move through this particular time um and you You have to have complete self honesty. And not, I've met people who can't do this. But I think everyone can do this. Is like, have you, have you ever, like, been absolutely certain of some memory?

And then you find out, like, it doesn't have to be, like, someone proved you wrong, but you discovered on your own discovery. Like, you've got a memory of your childhood. And you remember this event with such, such clarity. And then you flip through, like, an old photo album. And you're like, oh shit. I remember it being very differently. You can go and you can catch yourself, catch yourself like I was 100% convinced.

Like there was no doubt in my own internal mind that this memory happened this way, that I was wearing this blue shirt when my, when my sister fell down the steps. And then, oh, look, this is a picture of the day when my sister fell down the steps and became a quadriplegic. And actually, like, I was wearing a red shirt. So that's like a known thing. Like they talk a lot about this in like like the like psychology 101 classes that if there was like a armed robbery and then the police come and they they interview all of the different witnesses and the witnesses will give conflicting descriptions of what the the arm robber look like. And it's not because those people are lying. It's because the memory is inherently incorrect.

even though you are convinced, this is where it takes a lot of fucking courage to realize, like, even though I think my memory, and this goes before like false memories, that just muddies the water. Like, the nature of memory,

of human consciousness and memory, is that you can completely believe something that did not happen. Like, that's a possibility. That doesn't mean that all your memories aren't accurate. It just means that your memories... You can get it that wrong.

So that being said, would they introduce the Mandela effect into, like, this is a thing. thing. Yeah. Like now, like to me, that's the biggest fucking gas light. Yeah. Because what they're doing is, is they're telling people that your memory of like 30 years ago of like, was it Bernstein

bears or Bernstein bears? I am your father. Like if you're, those are the sort of things like I remember I had a blue shirt on, but I had a red shirt. Like those are the little details. Like you probably have a clear memory. But if you know how memory works is like it's possible that you got it backwards. Now that being said, I'm not saying like

the Mandela Effect is not true but what I am saying is like I think a lot of that shit is, could just be false memory. And this is the one like I'm trying, I don't know, I've spent a little bit of time personally trying to move through it

and I always go back to the C3PO with the silver leg because I was like, I was a kid with with Star Wars figures and I remember having like C3PO and like I was the generation. I was seven years old when Star Wars hit. Like it was made by generation.

Like it was part of the shaping of my of my of my mind. And I'm like, I never see no fucking silver leg. And I'm gonna notice that on a fucking. And I went back. The closest I got like I could find on eBay would be like like vintage original 97 posters of like Luke standing. on like it looks like a triangle and he's got like the the lightsaber and on those you really do see a fucking silver leg and I'm like motherfucker is this eBay fucking with me like this is where like

you go in like this is how like like you're like if I don't really need to like come to a conclusion with it like I don't need to because now like you feel on time I'm I'm wasting my energy I'm thinking about it's like it's like mental masturbation like it's kind of fun like it feels good but the end of it it seems like with with like the mandela effect and stuff they put it I feel like they put a name on it once they're ready for everyone to fuck with it and like spade is said that before about um tartaria it's like tartary is a bunch of fucking different things and then somebody condensed it in this little thing called tartaria and that wraps all that stuff up into one thing yeah that's easily dismissible like oh there wasn't a civilization

it's like well there could have been someone here that might have not been tartarians who were fucking like not doing anything with clocks and like the other crazy thing like we were talking about time and also i forgot to remind you uh tell us what indoctrination means but when we were talking about time like the i was watching a tartarian like video or something and they said like everyone's chilling to be like hey meet me when the sun is there and like that's like you're saying an objective truth where it's like that is the sun we know where it's going to be in the middle of sky and then they started having to go to work and catch a train and once the trains came then they started like making times up so you'd have to be there right on time and i personally think

that just by doing that you could increase like heart problems head problems because then people instead of just kind of going with the flow of the day and like you're in a natural circadian rhythm how your body should experience it you start fucking with people's time and saying this is five o'clock you should be real tired right now so so absolutely true so um i like to use the language like there's like like false realities. Yeah. And baseline reality. And baseline reality exists in like the great mystery.

Like the great mystery is like what the fuck is this? Yeah. So, so I, we can't answer that. But we can at least look at what are the, what are the, what are the baseline qualities of being here? Like the sun, the moon, changing of the seasons, like the changing of the tides. Like that happens. all cultures are a false reality. It's the way human consciousness works.

Okay. And so the more you understand what the experience of being human in this baseline reality, like how it works, the more grounded you can become into moving through this experience or having this experience without, I'm trying to avoid things like the better way or the worst way. It's at least a more grounded way. So when this is the whole Wednesday thing,

when you begin to move people onto a false time construct, you're going to begin to get them into living from that false reality. But all realities a human being will have will be like, technically false. That's part of being fucking human. It's going to be false. There are different types. So this is where indoctrination comes from. So right now for most people the word

indoctrination has a very very negative connotation and rightfully so in terms of how it's being used but in reality of the experience of being human like indoctrination is the problem. The process of forming consciousness in terms of how to understand your experience of being human.

Okay. So let me walk you through this. So if you could imagine, if you could imagine like, and when I say consciousness, and that could have a lot of connotations, what I mean on the most basic level is like how we think, like how you think, how I think. So when a human being is born, when they're a baby, their consciousness is just flat. It's wide open. It's a completely blank slate. And so you can imagine this like a lake, a lake which is so fucking still. It's like a mirror.

And then what's going to happen is through experience. Like every experience is going to be like a pebble or sometimes a big rock, which is thrown on. And it causes ripples on. the lake and it like it adds to it so the lake like the the baseline is like this smooth lake surface that's everyone's consciousness but then we get like these ripples it has to happen that way if it doesn't happen this way if you're going to walk around like you know like a retard like you have to do that and the process of that is called indoctrination it's shaping consciousness so it doesn't matter how it is that's what's going to happen so i'm going to give you an example you take a hundred

Like, let's say I go to the cloning lab and I get 100 babies, like brand new babies, and I put them in a hundred different households across earth. And in each one of those households, they speak a different language. And if you come back to each one of those households and you, like, you check in on that baby, now that's seven years old, you're going to see that each one of those babies' consciousnesses have naturally formed to the language that was spoken to the household without flashcards. Because that's how how consciousness works. It becomes the environment.

Right. Okay. So that's what indoctrination is. It's not necessarily good or bad, but what you can do is you could recognize what is the indoctrination techniques of the culture. What are the indoctrination techniques of the different socioeconomic stratas within our culture? Because they're all like they're different ways. if for example

you know like this is where people which I've noticed they can kind of understand indoctrination and you know why it's bad

and you know you got to put your hand on the heart and you pledge your allegiance to the flag or like or a religious indoctrination or like a patriarchy

indoctrination or I've been indoctrinated to love the fucking Eagles I will literally go and I will smash in someone's fucking face because he's a goddamn

giant's fan like I mean you know you've been indoctrinated it that way. All of that sort of stuff. So indoctrination, it just happens. And people could be like, well, you know, what if it was just more natural?

Like, if you were a child and you were raised by wolves, like literally by wolves, and if they didn't eat you and somehow you were able to make it through those first couple of years, like, what would happen would be like, you know, you're going around on all fours. You'd probably be like a really fucking cool, like, expression would be human. But you were indoctrinated by those goddamn wolves. Yeah. Like, they're just as guilty as fucking Flexner. Yeah.

Right. Like, but that's how the human consciousness works. And then the second level is when consciousness gets to a point, when you become, like, smart enough with your mind, when you can, like, think and you could deduce information. Let's say around age 18, though, what they're saying right now is, is, like, age 30 is when the mind. stops forming, you know, whatever. But, but there is a point like you could see like a seven-year-old mind is different than a, than a 28-year-old mind. At that point is when consciousness is able to begin to recognize itself or recognize how the mind works. And the tricky thing is, is you're trying to understand consciousness from a consciousness which has already been forward. Yeah.

People get stuck in that loop. Right. If you can step back from that, if you can step back from that, and that's what the whole grounding, when I say grounding consciousness is like, let me get to the point where, like, my opinions don't matter so much. Yeah. Then you can begin to navigate yourself through reality. So that being said, I want to go and say something in then pause because I know that this has been

like a roundabout story. So the last time we guys met, I had, I was beginning the next chapter, if you will, in the journey of Mike Juan, let's say. And I told you, like, there was a point in time, like, I was living like, I was living the paradigm dream. Like, I had a great house in a great neighborhood with, like, the best sort of, like, job and all that sort of stuff. And, like, I wouldn't say I walked away from it, but I was unwilling to. to not be me and or follow the things that I found interesting or do the life the way I wanted to do and that was my most important thing and when I did that everything else just kind of went away like like like like but I personally placed more value in that so then that had multiple

levels so when I saw you guys it was right what this was three years ago and I began stepping into the next chapter, which I'm still in right now, which is like, like, I don't have a fucking permanent address. Like, I've gone three years, I've gone three years without ever having, like the more than a thousand dollars to my name and usually under 150. Damn. So, and I'm coming from a conditioned, indoctrinated background. of like what it's like to be affluent. Yeah. And I'm not saying like I like living this way.

I'm not saying like I'm not saying like I'm not saying like like like the Buddha. The story of the Buddha is like he like rejected his like his background to like I'm not saying I'm walking that path. But what I am saying is like I wouldn't compromise when the shit I'm going to do. And the shit which I want to live does not align with the laws and the rules to be in in the system. So no jury duty or anything? Fuck. I'm like, I mean... Dude, I can't believe the machine elves let him the fuck out.

Yeah. But you were a normal dude. I mean, I was just, I was, I lived in normal life. Right. Yeah. It's very different than I was a normal dude. But nobody knew this was in there. No.

So what, so I'll say this. When I was in college. Yeah. When I was... Can we go back to at least high school? Yeah. Yeah. Like, what were you like in high school?

Uh, so. very popular. Lots of girls. Lots of friends. Like, yeah. But, like, were you looking into this stuff and, like, oh, okay. I wouldn't register for voting because I thought voting was a joke. But I didn't think it was a joke because I thought the system was flawed.

I just thought that it wasn't worth my time. Right. Yeah. Like, I wasn't. So you were hardwired for them. You were just a casualty of 9-11. Like, that dude had to go away during 9-11. So this guy came around.

So, so. I have asked myself these questions. I'm like, how the fuck did I ask? And so this is where it gets really, really fucking slippery. Like I can go and I can look at my parents and I can look at their jobs and I can look at all sorts of different things and like where I was educated. And like I can conclude or I could reach conclusions like some shit. happened to you. You've been programmed

for this shit. Like, and it's like where my mother and my father worked in the organizations and the time frame and the town I grew up in, like, like, it is fair to go and to say, to make those conclusions. But it's not, but it's also not

like a definite, like I don't have any memories of like, you know, like I see people who go on shows and they talk about like they're growing up in cults and stuff like that. I don't have any memories like that. Like there were no baby sacrificed in my basement. There was like,

like I wasn't, but like a, so, so yes, I was, I was raised. I was raised in a, we could talk about where I was raised. It was actually raised in a community, which was literally, if you read the,

if you read the history of the community, it was a Rockefeller sponsored social experiment. It's not expressed that way.