WAR MODE - Madame Webb

Episode Date: February 8, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But I really want you to ask yourself, did I fail you as a creator? Or did y'all fail me as followers? Let's talk about creepy guys, shall we? Welcome to War Mode. Tell me what to do. Tell me what to do. I don't know what to War Mode. Tell me what to do. Tell me what to do. I don't know what to do. Tell me how I should be.
Starting point is 00:00:29 I don't care about nothing, okay? You're all I need in life. It's all in years. It's all you're not up of it. Hey, just to using attention, baby. I'm a good-look-a-mothed- Do you feel like you're sitting across the table from your husband? No.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Yeah, me either. Hey everybody. I'm Whitney Webb. I'm an investigative journalist. I ain't gonna be back now. They're gonna respect us. They don't hate us. I like you, girl.
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Starting point is 00:01:28 Also, huge thanks to Marty Bent for making this happen. Is there, was there just a fire down there? Yeah, there still is, I think. Well, like every summer in Chile lately, past several years, there's been a lot of fires in summer, because it's, you know, it's been a lot of fires in summer because it's you know in southern hemisphere so it's summer here now and the current fires are like north of me I mean they're near like they're in Valparaiso which is by Santiago the capital just like the middle part of Chile.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Chile's like a really long skinny country now and like the middle bit is where most of the people live and so it's like a really crowded area, coastal area. Yeah, we just realized it's not under California. It like blew our mind that Chili's way past the off. In front of us in the time zones. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it's weird because it's like a Pacific coast country, but yeah, it's like two hours ahead of Eastern time right now. It's all very weird. It's because Chile and the US both have their own daylight savings time, so it's like super odd.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I think the president just got killed in a car, in a plane crash or something, right? Former president. Yes, he, I never have liked him at all. He was president of Chile during COVID. responsible for all the insane lockdowns and vaccine mandates here, which led Chile to have like the highest uptake of the vaccine. One of the highest vaccine uptakes in the world and then definitely the highest vaccine uptake for kids as young as too. Oh good. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that guy. And his whole political career has been about like selling Chileans out to
Starting point is 00:03:06 like foreign corporations. And he's like one of the main oligarchs of Chile also or was, I guess. Like he owns how this thing called Red Compr, which is like how debit cards function. It's like credit card and debit card processing. One of the biggest supermarkets, one of the biggest airlines, one of the biggest department stores. I mean, he's industrious. South America is weird. Industrious, yeah, yeah. Also like a corrupt piece of shit, but you know, I mean, I sort of see him as like a Chilean George W. Bush. Right. He's like very much in that same vein. Also with like the Bushisms, you know, where like he just says like dumb shit. The Pineaero was also known for that.
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Starting point is 00:04:23 normalized like oh nothing to see here. Just like Joe Biden's like weird, senile, like, I don't even know what to call them anymore. I mean, people call them gaffs, but they're not really gaffs. It's just like, you know, Alzheimer's's grandpa escaped from the place. the place where we try try try th is th is th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th, he th. th. th. th. th. thus, he thus, he was thus, he was thi, he was thi, thi, thi, thiol-s, thi's, thiol-s, thiol-s, thus. thus. thus. thus. thus, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th's, th, th's, th's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thin. thean. thean. to to to to to to to to thean. to to to th keep him locked up, you know. Well, Hunter ended up hiring Louis Free, the dude from, he was like a judge. Yeah, the former FBI director under Clinton who, like, is that the dude with the eye?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Hings out with Alan Dershwitz and stuff. That's why I don't think they care if Biden looks like all like retarded and stuff because in real life, like I don't think Iran Contra ever stopped like they've just found Kiev weapons in Mexico. Really? Yeah. Well yeah totally well I mean Iran Contra was just like a phase of what has been like a decades long arms and drug trafficking thing involving you know US and Israeli and some other intelligence agencies right so? So that's always going on. And it's also like a big thing for money laundering. I mean, like Afghanistan was like a huge, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:33 If you look at it as like one long event, not like all these separate, disparate scandals. You know, Afghanistan and Iran contra are kind of like similar in that vein. Yeah, like it never ends. Right. Yeah, absolutely not, because it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, like, it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like never ends. Right? Yeah, absolutely not because it's like the biggest grift. I mean, well, it's like rackets, right? So if you're like me and you view these guys as basically an extension of like organized crime from like the 20s and 30s, how does organize, how did like the mafia then work? They had like rackets, right? And the purpose the the the the the the th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like had like rackets, right? And the purpose of the racket is to expand the racket and, like, keep it going for as long
Starting point is 00:06:06 as possible. And all of these interests sort of come together with arms trafficking, with arms and drug trafficking, and in order to enable that activity and make it profitable, you have to launder vast amounts of money. Yeah, I was showing. I was showing, Bill, the, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, the, the, the, thi.e.e. And, thoing, thoing, thoing, thoing, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. And, th.e. And, th. And, th. vast amounts of money. Yeah, I was showing... Those things always go together. I was showing Bill the, there's a BBC thing on Maxwell, called House of Maxwell, and it's like,
Starting point is 00:06:33 he had a arms racket, he had like all this shit, dude. I don't understand. BBC's just like, oh dude, he's a media guy, here's his kids, but they're insane, the level, like, like in witness book they she goes into like how there's people from the Maxwell family that were like in the Hillary Clinton State Department. It's like Galen's sister's kid it's nuts dude. Christine no it's Isabel Maxwell's son so Galane's nephew was running the Middle East desk at the State Department under Hillary. I just like when I'm watching that is that kind of like the Epstein thing on Netflix like filthy rich. Like is it that much of a limited hangout that has some Maxwell? Because I don't understand like
Starting point is 00:07:15 all of these dudes come from Schettles somehow and then immediately it's like oh I bought the mirror. It's like how the fuck do you go from being in like a little tiny hut to owning the mirror and literally recording fucking everyone? Yeah you join the mafia. That's pretty much what happens. You know what's nuts like that it's in your book, I mean it's sorry I just buried about your book but I just read it, it took me like a month. It was an incredible fee. It's not short so. But uh so like everybody talks about like Epstein.. It's the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to their to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I their. I their. I their. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's their. I's their. te. took. took. took. took. took. took. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their. took me like a month. It was an incredible fee. Yeah, it's not short. But, so like everybody talks about like Epstein. And then, you know, like his house in New York, they would show pictures of this. Dude, he was renting a house from the state department.
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Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, and then he's hanging out at Jimmy Goldsmith's house, who's one of these sort of like a corporate raider tycoon style guys, sort of in the same vein as Maxwell, definitely in the same, social milieu as Maxwell. They were members of this thing called the Claremont Club, which is, it's in some BBC Adam Curtis documentary. Forget which one, but just talking about how these like corporate raiders just picked off in consolidated control over like big parts of the economy in Britain. And Maxwell's one of them and this goldsmith guy's one and Epstein's just there like playing piano in like 1973 or something like that. Yeah, there's like, with all these wealthy people. And Jimmy Goldsmith is like a cousin of the Ross child's.
Starting point is 00:10:13 He's like very connected to the royal family and stuff and so like how did he get there? How was Epstein hanging out with this fancy violinist who was like sponsored by the Queen and stuff and in this is all like in the early 70s so like even before the Dalton school happens like weird stuff is kind of going on but the way he makes the transition into banking from the Dalton school has to do with a screenberg who used to be the guy that ran Bear Stearns or like ran it for a really long time and Ep Epstein sort of started working under him before Ace Greenberg was in charge of it because allegedly it's because Epstein was tutoring his kids. And was like, oh, he's so brilliant.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I'm going to give him a job. And then like a year or two after he brings Epstein to Bear Stearns, theyce thinne, and thenthen Epstein sort of like has this rapid ascendancy within the bank and basically starts managing. I don't want to say tax fraud, but that's probably what it is. Like the tax fraud schemes for the richest company, or richest clients of Bear Stearns, which includes like the Bronfman family and stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:21 And actually one of the reasons that he, Epstein had to leave is because he was sort of embroiled in this insider trading accusation that involves Seagram's the Bromfman family company. And pretty much everyone that was charged with that never actually was prosecuted. They like either fled the US or were never actually arrested. And Epstein just left the bank and then, you know, became this international financial consultants that was doing all this weird spooky stuff and started getting multiple passports, applying for multiple passports, traveling all over the world, allegedly being involved in weapons stuff that wasn't necessarily part of Iran Contra but like sort of parallel
Starting point is 00:12:04 to it. Allegedly, it was selling weapons to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. So, you know, Iran Contra involves mainly like arms trafficking involving Iran despite the embargo of the Reagan administration against it. And then also it had like a Latin American theater in terms of like the drug trafficking aspect of it. But there was also weapons trafficking and stuff. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the th, I th, th, th, th-I th. I th-I th-I th-I th-it th-it th-a, the, thea, the. thea, the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the allegedly the, the allegedly the allegedly the allegedly the allegedly the allegedly the allegedly the allegedly the, the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the theeea theaughe the the the the the the the the the the the the the th like the drug trafficking aspect of it. But there was also weapons trafficking and stuff. I mean, it was basically an effort to prop up different paramilitary groups and then, you know, bargain with Iran over several different things and has wrapped up in
Starting point is 00:12:33 things like the October surprise and all this other intrigue stuff. Yeah, the October surprise hurts. They paid $40 million to keep the hostages tell Iran like don't let the Americans go until it's time for the election for optics well to get rid of Carter Jesus yeah to get Reagan and Reagan dude it's wild you'd love this shit Reagan's connected to um like it's weird like Whitney like in your book like if I start talking to people they'll be like not everything is a conspiracy because they they think like it's a crazy like here's a room where people are like like like like like like like the the the the th like th. like th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. the to. to. to. the to. the the the to. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. Because they think like it's a crazy like, here's a room where people are like conspiring and stuff. But really, this is just people that are related to each other and people that work together.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And that's all it is. Yeah, it's just business stuff. Yeah, it's just business stuff. But they don't let laws get in the way of business. they don't let the laws laws lawsthis dude Lou Wasserman and he runs MCA So MCA records like all that shit right these guys were pulling Universal studios. Yeah, he pulls strings like he's he's like a kingmaker. He makes the president. Yeah, Clinton Carter Bush or Clinton Carter and Reagan for sure. The Bushes might have been kind of goaded in. Yeah, and then like, we were talking yesterday about like how like they just got,
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Starting point is 00:14:47 And so I think, you know, I mean, potentially it's an optics thing too of being like, oh, well, we'll, you know, reject foreign aid, but they'll bundle it a different way and send it off. You know, I mean, Israel for the past like several decades has gotten billions of dollar a year in aid and they've been called out by like US intelligence and the US military and multiple occasions for like using a lot of that military aid they get by like sending weapons tech like sensitive weapons tech and other things like that to the US adversary states. Yeah, China. You know. And you have all these Republicans things like that to you know US adversary states now in China, you know, and you have all these Republicans that are like huge Israel stamps but they're also huge
Starting point is 00:15:30 China hawks and they like don't talk about that at all. Yeah. It's very weird you know. There's so much they don't talk about where especially with like with the Maxwell thing like they love like the salacious Epstein Galane thing going on but if you look in the the the the the the th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, the the the th. Like, the the th. Like, thi. I, thi. I, thi. I, thi. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the th. And, the the. And, the the they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, the salacious Epstein-Galain thing going on, but if you look into his dad, like, the stuff in your book, like, I was alive for it, but I was young, this shit with John Tower being connected. This is nuts. This is nuts. Like, how this isn't a story, that's up there like with Epstein running a house from the State Department. This dude, Maxwell, comes to America, somehow gets like newspapers or whatever, but he hooks
Starting point is 00:16:05 up with some PR guys and this Senator John Tower and he sells out, like Whitney, do you remember like he sells out like nuclear secrets or something to Los Alamos or something? Yeah, basically what happened is that John Tower was like a long-time head of the Senate Armed Services Committee and he was leaving that post, and so he looking for like new post Senate lucrative opportunities and he and he Henry Kissinger was communicating this to Robert Maxwell. Robert Maxwell sort of used Kissinger as an intermediary to basically offer a job to John Tower, but it was Massad money. So John Tower was put on the Massad payroll and was working for some of these Maxwell-linked companies because Maxwell was trying to market this thing called the Promise software, which
Starting point is 00:16:57 had been scary. We don't like talking about promise. Once we learned about Promise, he was like explaining it to me and I was like, ah, that's the stuff. We should probably stop talking about. The Danny Casillero thing is so scary. Yeah, it's pretty disturbing. So is Israel and and also the CIA basically had like a global coup because of promise, but mainly, I guess you could say it was mainly Israel in the sense that Israel backdoored promise first and then sold it to intelligence agencies and security agencies around the world and so had a real-time backdoor into everything those intelligence and security agencies were doing. So they had like all this for
Starting point is 00:17:35 foreign knowledge of like all these spy secrets and like military moves and all the stuff and it wasn't just for like the West it was also for like the Soviet Union and in you know places like that that weren't necessarily part of the West it was also for like the Soviet Union and you know places like that that weren't necessarily part of the West but the West was also targeted and in order to access US nuclear secrets they used John Tower to basically open the door to Los Alamos and I think Sandia National Laboratory was the other one and they installed Promise and then Israel took all the nuclear secrets. Yeah there's's, so if I mean, if I'm, what I understand is, they had Jonathan Pollard, right?
Starting point is 00:18:12 This, that dude, remember I was telling you about the dude Rafiathan and he thinks US is like enemy soil. Right. They had Jonathan Pollard. Then they had another one. Oh, Vince Foster, he was selling shit. He was selling nuclear shit So Vince Foster Pollard and The John Tower one I never heard of before, but I mean that's three on record. That's part of the Maxwell thing. Yeah, that's part of the Maxwell thing. Yeah, well and toweloward go together and they were also the world.
Starting point is 00:18:40 the tow killed the same year. Yeah, John. Which is also when Casalero dies and when one of Casalero's sources died. And there were 1991 was a big cover up here because they also pardoned all the Iran contra criminals. They covered up the collapse of BCCI. Yeah, this is Bush, right? And all this interrelated stuff. It's not. It's not. William Barr oversaw that. He was Trump's Attorney General more recently, but he was Attorney General the first time under Bush senior when all of this stuff was covered up
Starting point is 00:19:08 He's like a career CIA mop-up man William Barr. Yeah. Yeah. So like they when they steal the nuclear secrets like how does that just like kind to go away and like because I feel like I hear it get brought up to like pundits and stuff and they're just like that's not real. Or like, oh, we don't. Israel's never admitted they have nuclear weapons. Yeah. Everyone knows they do. Do you know the, um, ultimate liars. I think you say it, Coburn, but it's spelled Cockburn. Like the family of, the British family of journalists, like they about those guys? Are they like limited eye out or what? Like Alexander? Yeah, Alexander and Andrew and Leslie, I think?
Starting point is 00:19:49 I mean, I'm not as familiar with their work now as maybe I was a few years ago. But I feel like they're sort of, from what I recall, I feel like at least Alexander Cockburn, sort of one of those chomsky guys, where he's right about some stuff and you're, he's has other viewpoints or you're like, how do you? Yeah, right. I can't remember that much specific stuff because I don't really, I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:21:49 it's like that South Park episode where they just go and it's gone. Yeah, and like nothing happens. You know, I mean, that's basically like, the big four, big five banks in the US operate, like that, they're like, thi's, thi.............. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. thin. thin. they're like, thin. I's, they're like, like, like, they're like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they's, th. th. they's, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th unaccountable to anybody. And that shit's like super disheartening. Like once you start looking in this stuff, it's like, yeah, they stole nuclear secrets and then just denied it. Like everything, like it kind of like, flattens your tires a little bit.
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Starting point is 00:23:11 he had a mentor Max Fisher that dude was friends with mitromney's dad bit minrobin's dad was the governor of Michigan Epstein chilled in Michigan when he was little at an art camp it's crazy shit if you like make a map in your head, it's wild. Like when I watched that the House of Maxwell thing, like, what is the deal? Like, he stole a bunch of money, but is that why he got killed?
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Starting point is 00:24:18 And that's allegedly why he was killed. And even Galane Maxwell has said that he was killed by Massad Renegades. So that's what she thinks. You know that's weird is like you can talk to these people. Like did you talk, did you talk to Ben Manashi? Are you Ben Manasci? Yeah, I did. Yeah. I interviewed him probably like two or three times, yeah. The other book, there's the other book. The other book book book book book book book book. other book. other book. the book. the book. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi. You can't th. You can't th. You can't th. You can th. You can th. You can th. You can th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's weird. that's weird. that's weird. It's that's weird. It's th. th. the. that's weird. the. th is Gordon Thomas, but he interviews like old, old Massoud dudes, they'll talk. Geez. Yeah, it's crazy. Some of, well, yeah, Gordon Thomas had like a very long conversation with Rafi A-Tan, who's the guy that was like handling Robert Maxwell and Promise, handling Jonathan Pollard, I mean really running all of this shit.
Starting point is 00:25:02 He just strolled in 90s and it was all targeting America and Raffia Tan was in charge of oh sorry raffia tan just put on a disguise and strolled in and stole promise software allegedly that's what the Gordon Thomas did says. Yeah yeah. Yeah. Well there's a glass is a mustache. Yeah. There's multiple sources attesting to that like including the guy the guy that created Promise, Bill Hamilton, like met Rafi Aten in disguise and then was like, oh yeah, that was him. Yeah, he's in the sky. And then Rafi Atan admits it later into Gordon, hilarious. It sounds like a YouTube prank. Yeah, yeah, that's what it's like. And then was like was promised the stuff that like they could just the first thing that like crunched all the the their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, like, th. And, like, like,the first thing that like crunched all your data together and they could just take like all of your emails and mass or they just basically the early version of what Palantier is today. Oh man I don't
Starting point is 00:25:51 Pallantier's another is freaky one. Yeah well it's a it's a direct line from promise to Palantier. Yeah so they had they had this other thing that literally just wanted to fucking I don't even know can you can you explain it to bill absolutely so after 9-11 they tried to create this program called total information awareness that was a public private partnership housed within DARPA which is the Pentagon's research arm and the guy they tried to put in charge of it was John Poindexter who's one of these guys from Iran Contra probably the highest ranking guy prosecuted for Iran Contra, but then he's pardoned by Bill Barr and whatever. And he's considered to be the godfather of modern surveillance. And Poindexter was going to run this program, TIA, where basically they were going to data mine
Starting point is 00:26:35 and like suck up everyone's data and then, you know, analyze it and look for patterns and whatever. And so it was basically always intended to have this pre-crime functionality, but they also had like sub-programs, like one called bio-surveillance that were about like detecting pandemics before they happened and all of this stuff. And a lot of that same technology that was proposed under TIA was actually implemented
Starting point is 00:26:59 during COVID-1 by HHS. They started this. What year is this? So TIA was being fielded probably around 2002, 2003, and then it was defunded by Congress not that long after it launched because there was a lot of pushback because it was accurately described as the end of privacy and would just like completely eliminate the fourth amendment. So it was defunded on those grounds. But then they they decide that they can get around it by launching TIA as a completely private enterprise, as opposed to like if they take the military out of it,
Starting point is 00:27:32 people won't complain. Yeah, and that's what they do. I just got fucked by this. Yep. After he makes pay, you know, finishes with PayPal. The PayPal mafia. Yeah, it's very real. Teals up with this guy he knows from college named Alex Karp from Stanford. Pretty spooky school overall. And these guys go and meet with Poindexter.
Starting point is 00:27:54 They're trying, openly trying to recreate total information awareness. And they started creating Palantier as TIA was coming under a lot of pressure. So when TIA first came under pressure, they changed their name from total information awareness to terrorist information awareness. Exactly. Oh, we're just hunting for terrorists, even though they like obviously were like, we want it all. You know, and like literally the logo of TIA of the program was like an all-seeing-eye. Yeah. I mean, Palanteer. Like, like, like, like, like, the their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they changed they changed they changed they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they changed. They changed. They changed. They changed. They changed. They their their their th. their their their their their their their their their their. their. They changed. They they they the program was like an all-seeing eye pyramid like beaming out of the eye the only planet like we're watching the whole planet I mean build just all lower the rings yeah I just watched all three lower the
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Starting point is 00:29:07 government like it's crazy yeah those those dudes piss me the fuck off whenever we start talking about this I get so annoyed by them because like they just steal stuff from movies and like it's the same stuff with Elon must like the dude just pretends, like, everything he does is just from fucking sci-fi movies and books. But like they have like legit effects on everyone. Tim Dylan was just talking to Theo Vaughn and he was like joking around about like, in the future you're going to have, it's going to be so dystopian, like you'll have a hospital hospital in your house.
Starting point is 00:29:39 But in the book, like, when he writes about this chick, Walker, which will blow your fucking mind. This chick was one, she was like one of Galen's henchmen. And then she's a world economic forum chick, she's a neuroscientist. She fucked Prince Andrew for a couple, dude, it's wild. She, uh, she's married to a top Microsoft guy, he's now at Andreson Horowitz, I believe. And that was Bill Gates' main science advisor, after she was Epstein's science advisor. She's like obsessed with transhumanism. And she says you're going to have a hospital in your house by 2030. This is like part of the thing, it's called a homespittle.
Starting point is 00:30:15 They come up with good names. Yeah, all like that weird data collection, they just got me with the IRS. I logged on and I had to get like some sort of form and it was ID me and I was like all right like obviously scan my face because the iPhone has got me so used to scanning my face and then he did it and was like dude that's optional. That's just a different company. Yeah it's an Israeli company that scans your whole face and gets your biometrics and they're like oh you can use it for everything and th. and th. th. th. their th. their, their, their, th. their, th. their, th. And th. And their, th. And th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I's th. I'm, th. th. th. thi, thi, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I's like, th. I's like, th. I's like, th. I's like, th. I, th. I I, th. I, th. I I, th. I I, th. I I, th. I, th. I I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. oh, you can use it for everything and there's not one practical use to it. Yeah, well, there will be. Killing.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I mean, you know how World Coin works, right? You like scan your eyeball and then you get shit coins and a cattle tag. I'm good on that. Like a digital ID or whatever. And then you get like useless toususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususus. they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, th. that, that, th. that, that, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, th. that, th. that, th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the. that, th. th you get like useless tokens. Yeah. So basically the way the UN is setting up all their refugee assistance is that same shit. And they, but they were doing it like well before World Coin even launched. So like basically, you know, for like Syrian refugees and Jordan for Ukrainian refugees and stuff. It's or displaced people. If the World Food Program is there,
Starting point is 00:31:27 the way those refugees and like vulnerable people get their rations is they have to scan their eyeball. It's so fucked up. And then they have set up like supermarket style places where people can pick out their rations and feel like they're buying food. But you go to checkout and you scan your eyeball and then whatever you have bought the value of it is deducted from your wallet that's tied to your biometric digital ID and yeah and they say it's because people were defrauding the system but
Starting point is 00:31:58 there's no evidence of that. So what it's really about is this whole you know digital ID thing they've been flushing out for a long time that more people became aware of during COVID and the goal, as practiced by the World Food Program and also by like ID 2020 and they mainly have tested it on refugees thus far. It's also supposed to be a repository for all your health data, all your education credentials, career credentials, like your resume, you know, all of this stuff stored in one place. And I think, I mean, actually they're pretty open about, you know, that they plan to make it necessary for more services, like your access to government services, your access to your, to telecommunications, you know, like your cell, cell phone provider, whatever, your internet service provider, all of that, your social media accounts. So, you know, obviously, you, the, the the the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, their, to, their, to, to, their, to, their, to, their, their, th, th, th, th, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, tho, tho, thu. stuff, your internet service provider, all of that, your social media accounts. So, you know, obviously the possibility that arises then is like, okay, what if you post something wrong on social media and they like, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:56 deduct from your rash and wallet. Yeah, we're fried. Yeah, I would be fucked. I would have zero dollars. Yeah, so it's obviously not a good system, but they they tested on refugees first and it's basically like what they intend to do. So like all this collecting of biometric data, you know, people are like, oh shit, I just gave that away. Well, it doesn't really matter if you give it away or not because I mean they have it. So like Facebook for example, your Facebook pictures have been used to train and create basically this company called Peter, sorry, called a Clearview AI that is backed by Peter
Starting point is 00:33:32 Teal just like Facebook was backed by Peter Teal and he's the Palantier guy, remember? And yeah, so they have your faces even if you didn't upload the pictures, like they can identify other people that don't have Facebook accounts that are just in other people's Facebook pictures. What's the purpose? And if you like consider what's coming now with like Applevision pro and all these VR headsets, which have like how many cameras in them.
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Starting point is 00:34:27 That way they don't, the military is not doing it. They just get one of their boys. But I think the guys that got, the guys that started all this shit were like old, the Pinaq crew, like the Rand Corporation guys. So like they are in the military. Yeah Pretty much. Yeah, I mean it's the same like deep state Responsible for that that people, you know are mad about running the country But they willingly like you know they'll get on mosques day products and like you know have them surveil their home and Give them all their data. That's what it's like Elon's like I got twiters say whatever you want Twitter say whatever you want. Yeah, you know what I mean? Are you not are you not big
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Starting point is 00:35:45 It was like kind of nuts, but yeah, it is fucking weird. Sorry, I don't know if that's the deal's honeypot. Go on about Elon because I want to, I keep telling Bill like, I read, I read like the new Elon book like biography or whatever the guy put out. And I want to do a podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast on podcast. the podcast podcast podcast podcast on podcast on podcast on podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast. the podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast. the podcast podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast podcast podcast. the podcast podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the podcast. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the. I the. I the. I the. the. I the. the. I the. the. the. the. the. on Elon because he him and Kimball are hilarious like and Kimball is Eskimo Bros with Epstein by the way yeah that's down in uh but anyway also Trump and Epstein Eskimo Bros did not know that who this chick-this chick-allena middle fart hilarious name I feel you guys are making up last name unless
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Starting point is 00:37:06 Peter Teal is the guy creating Palantier which is being used by all the intelligence agencies to profile people based on their data, like they decide if you're a subversive or not, like they openly use that label and they're openly been doing pre-crime stuff which they call predictive policing for like years and years and years and they're being used for like openly for the war on domestic terror stuff. So when like a thing feels just right for me and it's like they created the app for me to go on it's probably not real or it's probably not real. Yeah, well they're saying like oh this is an open square like this is free speech, but like what is Elon doing at Twitter? Why he's saying all of that? Well, first of all, it's not actually free speech because he and Linda Yaccarino play good cop, bad cop all the time. And she's like freedom of speech, not freedom of reach.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And he's like, I'm woken based on Redfield. Yeah, and people are like, oh, yeah, I hate the ID verification system is like an Israeli company that like wants your license. It is. Exactly. And he's been pushing ever since he bought it to turn it into what he called, you know, basically openly saying he wants to turn it into an American equivalent of Weechat. Yeah. Which is complicated for its own reasons. But aside from that, he's been saying, you know, verify all humans. And he says it's about eliminating the bot problem, which I guarantee you it's not. But verify all humans is about linking a government-issued ID to your social media account. And this has been promoted by people like Jordan Peterson, Nikki Haley,
Starting point is 00:38:38 like all these people in conservative land on both sides of, you know, whether it's neocon or maga, like, there's people in all those fears that have been pushing for this lately. And Elon Musk is one of them and it's because of, it's for this broader agenda to criminalized speech because they probably already know who you are, even if you have like an anonymous account on Twitter or whatever, but the problem is once they, you link your government issued ID to it, like, they can prosecute you. Wow. Oh, fuck. So they're like, like, it opens, it opens the legal window for that.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He's all about free speech except for his papa and his dad's podcast. Yeah. Have you ever seen his dad's podcast? No, I don't know if I want to. It's like father of a genius or something. He told his dad's like doing his podcast or he doesn't get any more money. His dad's like saying he's a complete complete liar, absolute bitch. He gets on Twitter call, keeps commenting on Elon's post, limp dick. Okay, I didn't know that. They're definitely a really messed up family. Like Elon's mom is like totally insane also. Oh yeah, I think you're even creepier than the dad honestly. The haaldmans, they're weird they're weird they're weird they're weird weird we're weird weird weird we're weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird they're weird they're weird they're weird they're weird they're weird they're weird they're weird they're weird they're weird. They're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they's. they's. He they's. He they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. the. the. He's like like like like like th. He's like th. He's like totally insane also. Oh yeah I think you even creepier than the dad honestly. The Haldemans they're weirdos dude.
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Starting point is 00:41:26 Yes, cool. Smart. Did you see the long clock they're making? There's a dude, Danny Hillis from the thinking machines. He's very close with Epstein. Yes, he's making the longest. He used to run the supercomputer company called thinking machines. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 It was very tied up with DARPA and very spooky. Eric Lander came out of there, who's like the creepy eugenicist guy that Biden put in charge of all science policy, and then got fired for sexual harassment or something like that. Yeah, he's like a eugenicist. Yeah, and a lot of other guys did too. But Danny Kallus is interesting, yeah, yeah, because he hea hea hea hea hea hea hea hea hea that he that he that he that he that he that he that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that's former chief technology officer of Microsoft with Bill Gates, who was like very close to Epstein in the late 90s and like Epstein was accompanying him on like big Microsoft business trips. Big Bezos gave them Microsoft Russia and stuff. Bezos gave Danny Hillis $42 million to build a giant clock with Brian Eno.
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Starting point is 00:42:41 Crazy. Why was any thoughts on why that was going to? No idea what they were doing, but that's supposedly around the time when Jeff Basel's WhatsApp was hacked. If you guys remember that, like broke apart his marriage and stuff, was Epstein involved with that? I don't know. Damn.
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Starting point is 00:45:34 thinks he's the man. All these dudes think they're the man for a while, but but then bottom drops out. Yeah. Well Roy Cone was the bridge the bridge the bridge the bridge the bridge the bridge the bridge the bridge world and the illegitimate world of like organized crime, you know. He's like a lawyer for all these mob bosses, but he's also like hanging out at the White House with Ronald Reagan. Right. And stuff. Anyway, get back to Koshoggi.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Sorry, I derailed that. No, it's all good. I mean, there's so it happens, don't worry. But basically, yeah, so the Koshoggi guy is part, Jamal Koshoggi was part of this family that was like very, very much connected to intelligence. Jamal Kishoggi himself was embedded with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, which of course was CIA finance through Operation Cyclone, which started under Carter continued through Reagan, and believe Bush Sr. as well and is where Al-Qaeda came out of, right?
Starting point is 00:46:26 So Jamal Koshoggi is embedded with them along with some other spooky people at the time, but that's how his journalist career started, right? And he's writing for the Washington Post. I think at the time Jeff Bezos had bought the Washington Post as well. Yes, But there's more in but basically the Koshoghi thing happened at a time, well basically the the end result of it was that Mohammed bin Salman went from being media darling to like completely isolated and basically like a Kim Jong-un, you know? Okay. Well I mean that was the end result at the end of the day right. So So why would they want to like bring MBS down a peg? I think it's because if you think about how Mohammed bin Salman came to power, it was very uncharacteristic. Saudi princes or you know Saudi crown princes are very rarely as young as Mohammed bin Salman was.
Starting point is 00:47:19 They're usually old dudes. It's not like it's a monarchy right but it's not like a father to son monarchy like most people think about in the West or like it used to be maybe in medieval times in the West and things like that. Instead it's more it's like a more seniority thing it's like passed around like the uncles. Right. And it's like a seniority thing not necessarily like a genetic her you know father son thing. So the guy that had that had that had that had had had had had had had had had had had that had that had that had that had that had that had that had that had that that that that that that th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the to to to to to the to to to to too. to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the son thing. So the guy that had been crowned prince before Mohammed bin Salman is this guy named Mohammed bin Nyev who was very close to CIA director John Brennan. Very close. I mean John Brennan before he was CIA director was station chief for the CIA in Saudi Arabia. So he was, he'd basically set up the existing power structure of Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And then whoever brought MBS to power tears all of that down and MBS was like hanging his rivals upside down and the Ritz Carlton like literally like torturing them and shaking them down for money. I don't know if you guys remember that. No, no. Yeah, but there was it was called like the purge or something like all this weird shit was going on when B.. Yes B. Do B. Do B. Do B. Do B. Doe. Doe. Doe. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He. He. th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. th. He. the. the. He. He. the. He's, the. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. He's, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. He all this weird shit was going on when BS came to power. Do you think there's anything, this is like completely, this is just crazy. This is just crazy. But do you think there was anything weird that went on with Las Vegas and like all that
Starting point is 00:48:33 like the theories out there were like Saudi princes? the Saudi princes.. I've heard thi. A. th Shetal Sheldon Adelson and stuff like that. I mean obviously Las Vegas is like mob city Numero you know what I mean? So like I'm sure there was a lot of shady stuff that went on there and obviously it wasn't properly investigated. I have not done my own investigation of that. Though I know that there was a little goofy for you. There was a there's still like I know they're still blocking like doc like documents and like data about what happened at the Las Vegas shooting like in terms of like helicopter stuff and whatever like they still like won't release
Starting point is 00:49:13 that so that's obviously suss. But I can't really comment beyond that. No, no problem. The uh, the Koshoggi thing like does know or like, what is your theory for why he got killed? To knock Ben Salman down a peg. I think it was, I think this is part of a broader war that also doesn't just include the Jamal Koshoggi thing. It also includes Epstein being arrested take out John Brennan's top golden boy in Saudi Arabia, John Brennan is going to effing hate you. Especially if you're affiliated with a different power faction at the time, which Epstein was definitely not part of the Brennan orbit.
Starting point is 00:49:59 At that point in time, I think Epstein vacillated between those factions a few times in his career, but at least at this point he was in a different one, definitely closer to the Israeli side of things. And I think Mohammed bin Salman was definitely part of his an Israeli effort to normalize economic relations specifically with the Gulf states, which happened in a huge way under Trump. And one of the main point, one of the main point men for that was Jared Kushner, known to be texting MBS all the time, the best buddies, Adam Newman, the grifty We Work guy, Mohammed bin Salmon and Kushner, we're trying to solve Middle East conflict. We don't know if you guys remember that. We have the Cushner, we have the Cushner, we have building. Cushner, cushner, the cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu cu. the cushner is building is building is building is building a building a building a building a building a building a building a building a building a building a building a building a building a building a building aner's building a giant building down here in Philly. It's called the Noble, which is hilarious. That's what he named it. But did you see that
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Starting point is 00:51:31 they did when they announced, when MBS announced Vision 2030 was he gave this robot citizenship. Sophia the robot. That's hilarious. And that robot is made by Hanson robotics, like the guy that made that is it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it's, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the, the chief science, like the guy that made that is it's John Hanson and Ben Gertzel and those are those that's Epstein teain territory. They do like Ben Gertzel is like Epstein's top science guy, one of them. What are your thoughts on clones? It's true. He's on clones.
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Starting point is 00:53:19 Oh yeah. Well, the thing that like got me into this was like 2016, like kind of when Trump was coming in, when all that shit went down with like WikiLeaks and Seth Rich and all that stuff, like that is the stuff that like... That guy just got locked up for 40 years. Who? The guy from Vault 7. For real? Yep. What the fuck? Well, first of all, yeah, that guy, Josh Schult, he denies he was the vault seven leaker and the government doesn't actually have that much evidence that he was. It's all very circumstantial and it's mainly about him having been on bad terms with the people he worked at at the CIA and then leaving. It doesn't really tie him to the stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:55 He was just the fall guy they chose for it because they wanted to make an example of somebody. They don't really know who gave it to WikiLeaks. Also, a couple other things about Vault 7, Vault 7, whenever you hear in the next year or so, they blame, there's some big cyber attack. This is a prediction? Increasingly likely. No, but they can, Vault 7 shows that they can blame any country they want because the CIA has these tools where they can conduct a cyber attack, but put in the fingerprints of any nation state........ th. th. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. V. th. V. V. th. V. V. V. th. V. V. V. th. th. V. V. V. V. V. th. V. V. V. V. th. V. V. V. V. th. V. V. V. V. th. th. V. th. V. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the CIA has these tools where they can conduct a cyber attack but put in the fingerprints of any nation state. Right. And then it looks like it's them. So that's very important to keep in mind from Vault 7 like one of the most consequential things about it. And the other thing I want to say is that Trump said I love Wiki Lakes when he was campaigning yes and then he's the reason that Juliannenenene. the the they. they they they they they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were the they were the the their. they were their. their. their. they were. they were. they they were to they. to to to. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. and benefited from them. And then he's the reason that Julian Assange is rotting away in a Britain prison. Yeah, they were trying to kill him.
Starting point is 00:54:48 For real? Yeah, they had to get an assassination attempt, like a plan. Trump has one of these guys that has certain rhetoric when he's on the campaign trail, but he works for the deep run for this time I'm not voting for fucking anyone dude I swear to God I mean yeah because the thing is if people want to like hope that Trump is different this time I you can't put all your eggs in that basket it's very unlikely and people have forgotten a lot of what happened during the Trump administration
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Starting point is 00:55:53 Warspeed is hurt. Yeah, war speed is where I got off the train. And you had people that were like oh the vaccine sugar water because Trump is making that no dude so people need to be very like wary like remember what happened because our attention span because of just how media set up today is like yeah like Alex Jones says we have goldfish brains yeah yeah but I mean he yeah but I mean he really frustrated with him because I feel like that is why he's still successful.
Starting point is 00:56:26 He's showing his ass right now with all that stuff with Twitter. Like he's sucking Elon Musk Dick and he's like, oh dude. It's disgusting. Yeah, well, yeah, Alex Jones was someone who was like very against transhumanism and all this stuff and now he's like sucking the Dee of brain chip dude. Like come on that's what that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, th. that's like, that's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, th. He's like, th. th. th. He's like, th. He's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, th. He's like, th. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, come on. That's what, that's what, I get sucked in because I have hope and I'm like, no, no, the good guys are gonna win and then like, remember we got. Remember when I was like, dude, maybe it's Irish K. Junior and he's like, like, well, the good guys. But we have to remember that the little people that aren't being pushed in front of
Starting point is 00:56:52 us are the people want a hero, we will supply them. It's like that kind of shit, you know? It is weird, like out of nowhere, like they had him like bodied, and it's all that money from the Sandy Hook shit. Out of nowhere, Tucker Carlson's like, I'm gonna leave Fox and I'm gonna have Alex Jones on, get him reinstated. It's like they're gearing up for something that's going to happen around the election. Yeah, well, they are trying to make people think once again that Trump is the guy that's going to take down the quote unquote deep state. And even if Trump were to do that or try or had the intention of doing that, in my opinion, there's no way one dude in the White House can do that. Yeah, right. Because people don't the deep the deep the deep the deep to to to the deep to th, it to th, it's thoooooooo. It's tho. It's tho. It's tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. thi. thi. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's too. It's too. It's too. toea. to. to. to. to. toe. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. that. Yeah, right. Because people don't understand what the deep state is, and I think that's intentional.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And I think a lot of people in quote unquote independent media have misled people about what the deep state is. If you ask the average American or average Trump supporter to define the deep state, they'll be like, uh, Nancy Pelosi. Or they'll just be like, everyone bad in the government is the deep state. And basically what the deep state is supposed to mean is it's supposed to be the bureaucracy that doesn't change regardless of who's put in power and elected. So if you think of, you know, appointees of, uh, that the executive branch makes like
Starting point is 00:58:17 the president, you know, and you look at the intelligence community, okay, they pick the director of national intelligence. That's like two employees out of a workforce of thousands and thousands of people. It's 18 intelligence agencies. So how much really changes when one president comes in? Well, I definitely look at history. I don't. I think we definitely know more now. Then when I was younger man, like I remember older guys at work being like trying to tell me. Like Clinton, he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th he th he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the the th. the the the th. th. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te guys at work being like trying to tell me, like dude, you know, like Clinton, he pardoned Mark Rich. And I was like, I don't know who the fuck that is, dude. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:53 Like people knew about that. Yeah, yeah. People know about the pardons. Like the weird pardons they do is like another, like tru-pardon the market and Michael Milken the Drexel Burnham Lambert junk bond king guy that's like been rehabilitated under COVID and like host Anthony Fauci roundtables and stuff what and is like I care about your health but I totally fucked the economy in the late 80s and stole lots of money. It's absolutely redemption story the president's just like I mean I don't know how much power they actually have but the president is just like a. It's a figure head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head. It's a the. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I. I. It's. It's. It's. I. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I. I. I. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the know how much power they actually have, but the president's just like, he's a front man. It's a figurehead, honestly. And we're made to think that as long as we get the right person in the office of the presidency, it's going to fix everything.
Starting point is 00:59:32 That's not how this stuff works. You know, I mean, that's a pipe dream. and we should definitely look just as much at a politician's actions than then as their rhetoric, if not more so, their actions and their rhetoric. So for example, Trump comes into office the first time he makes this strategy and policy for him, I think it was called, of basically the people that are going to like, you know, develop the North Star policies of his administration. It's Larry Fink. It's Jamie Diamond. It's like all those guys. Yeah, Black Rock is, that's spooking me out
Starting point is 01:00:11 once I found out about the British East India company. And then thinking like, this is just the modern day of that. That's pretty fair. And you know, Trump, when COVID started, who did he call right away to ask him what to do in times of crisis? He called Larry Fink. If that's going to be your go-to guy when shit hits the fan, that's a problem because
Starting point is 01:00:32 what Larry thinks of when there is a crisis is, how can I profit from this crisis and have BlackRock buy it?

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