War With A Mate - Episode 8: Sleepwalking
Episode Date: January 24, 2025Nothing lasts forever ey? (Except maybe this game). The energy from NYE most certainly did not make it to 2025, with a dreary - near delusional - atmosphere in the war room today. The guys plod on tow...ards the conflict…but maybe the real conflicts are the “friends” they were along the way?
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welcome to war with me me andy and that's it it's just andy it's just andy today
james isn't here oh good this is gonna be a i'm already annoyed
i'm tired today i'm actually really tired never let the audience see weakness they can see it
oh they can hear they can smell it on me they it's it's in my tone it's in my body language
that's all stuff that they wouldn't really well tone the pickup uh come on then andy what what's
what's the what's the gist are you really doing you were energized five minutes ago it's starting
to peter out oh my god okay uh well more progress with the game today we are zeroing in on that
first turn we are we are it's uh it's the start of a new year it's the start of the actual game
we got the map out the day we spilled it out into the floor we we were gonna we were gonna do a lot
of things we were gonna get all of our pieces out we were gonna put them on the board we were going
to do the naval convoy stuff so i can get all my uh my resources shipped out and then we realized
as always we've overshot yes we've underestimated the work in between or not work the the fun in
between uh what we're aiming for and what we're actually going to be doing so we've been organizing
our troops into baggies today we mean that and yeah it's exactly how it sounds so we spent
three and a half hours
looking through the trays
of little
cardboard pieces and then putting
them into little plastic
baggies. So they're organized
now. They're organized now, yeah.
So next time we can
put them on the actual board,
the actual map. Yeah.
That's a big
step. It's progress.
A lot of people would consider it starting
the game. Yeah, well it is starting
the game. We've started it now.
No, we're starting the mini scenario for the game.
We're starting the six-turn run.
Yeah, it'll be good.
Graziani's offensive coming up.
Yeah, it's in progress.
This is it.
The offensive's underway.
We spent three and a half hours getting the pieces out.
We listened to a lot of girly pop in the background,
some Taylor Swift, some Chaperone.
I mean, that is the theme song to this podcast
when it's not being recorded.
We listened to a lot of girly pop.
Yeah.
Just great stuff.
Great upcoming artists.
like taylor swift well she's she's pretty established but the other ones you know they're
all uh they're all up-and-comers they're doing well a bit like us we're the up-and-comers
we're uh we're up and coming we're coming to uh 2025 the year of war of the mate and girly pop
yeah we're one in the same that's uh yeah that sort of sums it up doesn't it
come on man this is not acceptable this is oh this is a horrific energy spike
so we we did that we we got all the pieces into bags i um i did make a little promise last time
didn't i it uh during the new year's eve one that i wasn't going to get annoyed at the game anymore
and i'm i'm not i do have some constructive criticism which we can get into soon
Yeah, let's hear it
No, no, no, no, no
I'm not there yet
Okay, you need to work yourself up into a lava
but not be angry at the game
If I say it now, Andy, I'm just going to be annoyed
Okay
Because it's annoying
And I made a promise
We are so not that people do finish this game
And yes, and yes
So the
Ooh
yeah it's it's been
come on i mean this is not okay
this is the start this is fine as as we go on the energy's gonna it's gonna rise up i mean i
fucking hope so a rising tide raises all ships my friends and that tides are coming i can see it in
the distance right now it doesn't drown us eh yeah we can't be drowned we've got gills
gills of steel that's a bad thing to for a guilt to be made out of steel well they need to be so
fleshy don't they i mean i assume so oh we brought this up earlier didn't we when we were we're
unpacking these pieces we started a wax lyrical on life a little bit we're talking about meat
and uh what constitutes meat we're talking about fish yeah it's meat yeah it is it is
so we we just want to do a bit of a public service announcement um if you think that fish isn't meat
um you're a liar or you're just wrong you can choose that's up to you we're going to give that
agency to the listener but um fish is meat yeah so for any pescatarians listening you're not fooling
anyone just go get a burger yeah get a burger uh a steak or or just have fish and just call it what
it is sea meat sea sea meat lovely bit of sea meat yeah that's i'm on a i'm on a i'm on a seafood
diet myself andy go on just krill oh the whale diet yeah yeah well you know whales last a long
time i mean yeah and it's because of the krill everyone knows that krill's got to be somewhat
nutritious so much of it krill is krill's the rice of the sea isn't it yeah yeah maybe the dirt
of the sea the thing is the risk with rice is you reheat it in the microwave and you risk arsenic
poisoning that's a thing you know yeah it's a risk i'm gonna take but you don't do you don't
have that with krill i mean do you know that there's probably mercury in there other heavy
metals that we've polluted
the sea with and they've eaten.
Heavy metals, eh? I was going to list
some bands, but
I don't really want to get into the fine minutiae of
causing a debate about
is this band heavy metal or are they
just heavy?
I like metal. I like rock.
Yeah, both like
it. You more than me.
But I don't want to start that discussion.
It's no girly pop.
It's not. I'm fine to talk about
the fact that fish is meat.
okay i'm not gonna get really bringing it back to that again but i'm not gonna get into you know
something as delicate as you know music genres i'm not an expert on that i wouldn't dare talk
about something i'm not an expert on i mean as we've proven we only talk about what we know
yeah we're just two two geniuses this game almost we're almost talking about it each week
and then wild, uninformed
opinions.
We've probably got our Mensa
certificates on the way, haven't we?
I actually turned them down.
I don't want to be associated with those dum-dums.
I mean, if you need a group
to send you a badge to tell you
you're smart, you're an idiot.
I think I'm coming down with something, Andy.
I think I'm ill.
Well, power through, buddy.
And bring me that energy, you promised.
Oh, I didn't promise anything.
You did earlier this podcast.
You said you were going to get more energized.
No, I said I'm going to be less annoyed at the stuff I'm annoyed about.
Right?
Let's go to that.
Fine, all right.
Because we have nothing.
So I was getting out the pieces.
We were sat back to back.
Farting away.
A few trumps did escape.
But that's not indicative of, you know, who we are as people.
That's just bodily function.
That's fine.
It's fine to fart.
I mean, our lack of control or courtesy to our fellow man.
We're just two close friends.
That's all.
It's fine.
Farting away, turning this room into a horrible nightmare.
It's a little hot box of love.
Yeah.
We were sat back to back picking out these pieces.
um you we heard each other murder and frustration quite a bit we were you know trying to get through
just two people trying to figure out a way through this navigate the minefield that this game is
i mean my issues are mainly with uh the british military command in the 1940s rather than spi
yeah but the thing is you also organized your box badly i'm putting this right back on you friend
because when we were organizing these pieces
into the plastic trays they came in,
I was organizing them by the types of description that they had,
like the abbreviation on these tiny, tiny pieces of cardboard.
So Roman numerals and then slash and then a number,
putting them in one thing.
If it was Roman numerals slash Roman numerals,
I was putting them in another.
If it was just a word, like a normal word, like Sahara,
I'd put them into one tray.
okay i don't i don't really know what you did but whatever it was i know for a fact you spent most
of your time today undoing what you did because you didn't finish putting all your pieces and
baggies no i did i have homework yeah the game stays with you so you get to you gotta fuck around
with this for the next few days in your spare time i have other things to be doing well you
shouldn't have signed up for this then should you no but we we were getting through it and the
italian black shirts they're they're a group that i have i've got four divisions and anyone who's
keeping track at home um first of all commiserations and secondly uh you'll you'll know that divisions
are the biggest sort of collection of units and i have four black shirt divisions that's a lot of
bad guys the first ccnn the second ccnn the third the fourth and the first ccnn the abbreviation on
the little piece of cardboard is one ccnn and then i also picked out the second one two ccnn
okay what's the numbers on the way you tell them apart it was the same for the fourth as well what
do you think the third one was just ccnn three ccnn yeah nope what was it then i can't remember
but i think it was something like 150 lpe or something something completely unrelated
why why is that the case different group of guys but it's all it's it's it's the third in a series
of four yeah but this is the thing this is why i have issues with british high commander of the war
as opposed to spi because they probably named him that stupid shit back then but the thing is
i get it with slavishly devoted themselves to recreating what happened in history so
the saving grace i've got is mine were the the bad guys historically so them doing this to me
that that sort of feels thematic yeah my question why is the british army just sort of scattered
across why is no one with the rest of their units there's just field guns by themselves
just guys walking around with no support like why aren't they together there's there's men though
Well, there's men with the guns, like the big guns, like the howitzers and stuff.
They've got like a crew that look out for them.
Yeah, but like, not in the game.
No, in the game they do.
They've got men.
You don't, we don't have like a separate piece.
You don't keep track of them or they don't do anything, so they're not there.
If the gun gets blown up, the men get blown up, presumably.
Presumably, because they're not an independent thing.
Oh, we shouldn't be saying presumably.
We shouldn't presume anything.
We've started the game.
We shouldn't, we don't even know how the trucks work.
I mean, we know roughly how they work.
Well, they carry things.
You load them up from supply depots or cities or ports.
Then you drive them to another supply city, depot, or port.
And then eventually another truck comes and takes it to a guy
who will eat the food, drink the water, and shoot the gun.
I'm really sorry.
I really hate that I'm doing this while we're recording.
But I'm going to put you on the spot.
How much can the trucks carry?
well there's light trucks medium trucks and heavy trucks yeah and they're all sort of different
yeah but that's not the kind of knowledge you need off the top of your head as a
commander of a logistical game sorry what was your what's your motto
fuck the trucks yeah because they're they're really important yeah yeah all right okay
and you so you're not sure you're not sure what they can carry that there's different types
yeah
we're not saying different things
we're agreeing on the same point
yeah but you don't need to concern yourself with details
no one ever gets caught up in the details
in war
it's only about the big picture
what the fuck
are you talking about
the game is entirely
detail oriented we've got nothing else
to talk about other than the details of the game
it's so complicated
that's the point
today i will say we're starting playing it this is the first recording of the year
this is the first time we've actually started to play the game because this is playing the game
this is part of what the game is yes it's a it's all logistics and organization not details
um so yeah we're in it and i think organizing stuff and i think i'm still waiting for the
moment where like you know when you you finish setting up monopoly and you've put all the
community chest cards down the bankers dished out all the money and he's had two 500s up his sleeve
for later on in the game when he wants to cheat and you're ready to start playing the game yeah
i'm waiting for that moment with this and i keep on forgetting there isn't that this is it this is
the game it's it's it's this it's gonna become keeping it's gonna become more dynamic when we're
moving stuff around. What's your source?
It can't be less
dynamic. Yeah.
Yeah.
Right, I suppose so.
Got ya.
So tell me, what was your favourite part about
today?
I like, well, fixing
my box of pieces that I'd
messed up. Does that make you feel a little bit
happier? Yeah, I mean, I like
a bit of organisation.
I mean, not applied to my life, but
for stupid games.
love it
I think
my favourite part of it
was when I needed to find
really difficult to find pieces of cardboard
and I would just occasionally spot them
immediately in the box
I mean that was good, that was a nice feeling
let out a little
yippy
and a toot
a little celebratory toot
that's fun
toot and carmoon
I mean that's Egypt based
maybe we'll find this tomb
should we do a mini game
unleash the curse
let's get spooky with it
should we get some eldritch horror
mixed in with
yeah
with the fascist march
across North Africa during World War 2
well they loved all that cult bullshit
yeah I mean
they wanted to do sort of zombies and stuff didn't they
yeah they wanted to make a big bell that brought
people back from the dead or something
Fetch me their souls!
Yeah, I mean, Indiana Jones is...
I mean, the only bit of it that's not true is Indiana Jones.
That wasn't...
The Nazis were looking for shit.
I was doing Call of Duty Zombies.
I, yeah, didn't recognize that, so moved on.
Kino de Toten?
Oh, Cinema of the Dead.
I speak German.
No, you don't.
Say one sentence in German.
Guten Tag?
A sentence, not a greeting.
moving on
you coward
I did poorly in German
you small man
how dare you
I'm bad at languages
then why lie and see
you can speak
because I didn't know you'd call me on it
and I wanted the listeners to think I was cool
oh no
oh we're starting the new year with a bang
yeah with sad
admissions
what side of missions do I have
I don't know I drank
some Huel today
yeah I wasn't going to bring that up because
we did that on the first episode
I'm still as angry
I'm angrier at that than I'll ever be at this game
I didn't do anything wrong
I'm just staying
full of nutrition
no
just eat food
eat an appropriate amount of food
I'm eating
the perfect amount of food because Huel's a
I'm not doing this again
I'm not doing this
a second time
oh we
you know what no I said I'm not getting
annoyed at the game I get annoyed at this
I'm not doing this again
I'm not doing the Huel thing again
you don't have to you were wrong then you're wrong now let's move on
fish finger sandwich
I needed to bring that up
you didn't need to bring it up
you were bullied by a co-worker
no someone asked me to bring it up
and I said I would
Greg's in limited
locations do a fish finger sandwich
and I think you should have it
it sounds really nice I was going to buy one
on the way here today and I didn't
I bought Huel and I feel like a coward
you've not even had this
sandwich you've been talking about
no I've only found out about it today
the only chance I had to get it
was when i was walking here to yours today and i'd have to go slightly out my way and i really
needed the toilet and then i got here forgot that didn't need the toilet anymore so i really
probably could have had it so you should have got a fish finger so you should have left and gone and
got a fish finger sandwich i would have waited all right we'll get your time turner out then
friend we'll we'll turn this one back if only oh well if you could if you could turn back time
by
by one week
what would you do differently
I had a pretty good week
probably nothing maybe invest
although I didn't pay attention to the stock
market or bitcoin or anything so I
wouldn't know what to invest in
bitcoin's nothing you should follow up
actually what you should do is get
involved in the beast games
you know Mr. Beast's
squid game thing
yeah I don't want to be involved in that
that was
is that still going
it's probably being
released
I think it's
I think it's done
in
he's finished the games
he's killed all those
people
they're all dead now
they all died in the one
where you have to
scratch your kooky
did they do that
oh yeah
they did that in the
the Netflix series
I don't know if they did
was that based on the
Beast games
yeah
the second season of
Squid Games is based on
Beast games
that would actually
have been funny
if they just had like
a YouTuber presenting it
in Squid Game Season 2.
I wouldn't be shocked. That seems like the sort of
direction that they're going in.
Entertainment has taken a nosedive.
It's become content.
It's...
Nothing's content.
There is no art. There is only content.
This is neither.
This is content. This is technically
an audio file that
we're releasing out there.
As content. Yeah.
And one day when we get really good at it
It'll be art.
When's that happening?
We've got eight years to almost figure it out.
Is that en route, is it?
Yeah.
So the last episode of this podcast
will be comparable to Michelangelo's David
or, you know, one of Picasso's paintings.
David's Michelangelo.
Yeah.
Oh, you know what?
That would work really well
if the creator of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
was called David.
Do you reckon he is?
I mean, it makes sense.
There's no way to find out
If you had to guess right now what would you say his name was
The creator of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
I don't need full name just first name
Dave and a guy called Greg
Two people
I think it was a creative collaboration
Just like this
Yeah
This is a collaboration
This is a meeting of the minds
So
I'm going to go with a single guy
Chris
well there's no way I find out
I mean there is I'm going to check right now
so I'm going for Chris
you've went for
what was it
David and Greg
teenage
pregnancy is the first thing that comes up
that's based on your previous searches
teenage dirtbags up there
right hang on a minute
created by
right okay it is a creative
endeavor between two individuals
nailed it
But you didn't get the names right
Kevin
And Peter
That was close
By what metric are you measuring that
You know they're all sort of similar level names
Similar level
They've all got five letters
Yeah they're all pretty common
Kevin Eastman
Peter Laird
We can't just read Wikipedia
It's just a shout out
check out Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
if you've not seen it before
it's good
which turtle are you?
what like on a buzzfeed quiz?
yeah
I reckon I'm
what's the
rhino called?
who's friends with them in the sewer?
I think he's their enemy
oh I thought they were sort of like frenemies
Bebop or
Rocksteady
um i don't i don't know that's part of the issue i don't know yeah and i'm krang
krang yeah krang the conqueror yeah well he's he's not he's not popping up anymore is he
he'll be back on the mcu yeah didn't he get acquitted recently the actor jonathan majors
uh yeah but i feel like you once you've got once you've got robert danny jr back you don't need
Jonathan Majors
I mean it would be nice
to finish that off
I mean I'm not that invested
I don't think anyone else is but you know
just from a storytelling perspective
we're
telling a bit of a story here aren't we
yeah I mean
part of this was to
see how quickly we degrade mentally
by having to do the game
doesn't seem like it's really been the game
you've just come in here degraded
I've just had a really bad night's sleep.
And I just got more and more tired at work.
And then I came here.
And then I was sort of ready for the sort of tactical nature of the game
to shock me into being alert.
And instead, we just spent three and a half hours
picking out little pieces of cardboard in a fairly dimly lit room
because it's dark outside.
We were doing it by lamplight.
pull the light bulbs out
for the main light
so I was sat there squinting
squinting at little pieces of cardboard
while my kink is karma
was playing by Chapel Roan
and I think I played four times
because my Spotify
messed up
something looped at some point
I don't know why
so I feel like it's
something got to me, I got Guantanamoed
partway through this process well i think as a as just a rule to carry forward never count on the
game to energize you yeah that's on me i thought i thought i'd have to concentrate more instead it
was just like such a passive activity that i get a coffee on the way over no because you're not
meant to have coffee for 10 hours before bedtime so go to bed at like eight in the morning right
but be energized for this oh you're a you're a more selfish man than you were last year
was that your new year's resolution in the end uh yeah i've decided to not harass michael
mcintyre oh don't bring him back into it i thought we left that in 2024 well i'm saying we have but
i'm gonna be meaner and less courteous you should be careful because you know you're the one with
the disorganized tray that's and completely unnecessary the tray is being organized now
to a certain extent it's not you're complaining to yourself when you were buying
we've got we've got pictures this time though haven't we of the uh the map yeah they'll be
on our website which also just launched oh yeah that's a good point when we're recording this one
we've just released episodes one and two yeah we're now officially podcasters and we can't undo
that yeah we can't take it back
I don't know how to get it back from all of the platforms
well no it's more like if you do
it once
it's like a stain on your soul
so we've got
episodes one and two out this will be in the
second batch
we've just recorded the intro and outro for
episode three right before doing this
so that's a weird sort of twist
of linear time
yeah because this is going to be
so this will come out
two weeks yeah we need to stop doing this on the podcast this is going to come out a week after
yeah episode three came out that we've just recorded the intro for oh it's so confused
why do we do it this way we're we're um we're we're powering through though yep a media empire
is born we've got we've got good strong spirits about this this is feeling like a new dawn a new
day. Are you singing
a continue? No, I don't know the rest.
Which one
were you singing? Who
sung that song in your head?
I don't know.
Yeah,
I have no idea. I don't know if you're going
for the original, if you're going for Bublé.
Muse did a cover of that.
Not them. Maybe. Who's the original?
Pass. Probably not that
one then either. I can tell you two people it isn't.
Bebop and Rocksteady.
I was thinking Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird.
I mean, you don't know that.
They may also have been talented musically.
Let me have a little look.
So, Kevin Eastman.
Nope.
He's got a cool little soul patch going on.
And Peter Laird.
No.
No.
Also not a singer.
they published
the
just reading the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle
I mean I asked you not to
if anyone's interested
they released the
they self-published the first black and white issue
of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle
as an initial print run of 3000 copies
for the 40 page oversized comic
it was largely funded by
a loan from Eastman's uncle
Quentin? I can count on you
to cut this out, right?
No.
This is going to be staying around for a little
while. Oh, good.
Yeah, going to be keeping this bit in.
And you'll be
the listeners will obviously
have noticed. We've got pop cards now.
So, less abrupt
breathing. The more
you've been talking in that sentence, you've moved further
away from the microphone. So they might just be
thinking that pop cards are something that makes you
slowly vanish into the ether i'm not gonna i'm not nailed mic technique but again we've got eight
years we do i think we've done well so far i mean we've got no right to say that it's it's down to
the people listening but but hey ho hey ho so was your complaints about the game was it just that
one thing about the black shirts what was that and and that we uh we had to spend all that time
picking out all those pieces and putting them into little bags
that was on us
no that's on the game
the game shouldn't be that way
we could have organised things from the start
what is going on
you are on the side of this game
far too often for my liking
I mean I have to be
because you're unfairly being mean to it
it's a work of art
unfairly being mean to it
you've read the rules
they made a few mistakes
and again I'm not angry because I'm not allowed to be
that was the promise
but I am
disappointed. Why?
I'm not angry I'm just disappointed
You shouldn't be disappointed at all
I think they should have done something different
Just a different game? Like a racing game
Oh that would be cool. We should have done a
Gran Turismo
A 1500 hour racing game sounds cool
Or a podcast where we both learn to drive
Oh that sounds fun
Just podcasting during
driving lessons
That's not illegal is it?
I mean, not yet.
That's one of those things where it becomes illegal.
When?
They're putting a law in for that.
When a tragedy occurs recording two guys driving.
Should I call the podcast that?
Two guys driving?
Driving each other insane.
Driving each other insane with these chemical reactions
as we look at each other from across the table.
Just utter disgust.
Yeah.
that too
I feel like we've got some good chemistry
we could drive each other insane
I feel like we could be the characters
in Journeys Don't Stop Believin
I could be the
or less important members of the Manson family
I was thinking I could be the small town girl
you could be the city boy
born and raised in West Detroit
South Detroit
I'm not
fuck's sake Andy
it's not an exact cover
we're trying to avoid
any copyright infringement
we don't want to get
DMCA'd
I just relate to western Detroit more than
south Detroit
you've never been to Detroit have you?
no, not yet
might go one day
is that on the bucket list?
see Motor City
buy a house
but like not much
oh now he's turned into a car
Anything to avoid being
dialed in, eh?
There's something going on with me
today. I think it's exhaustion.
And illness.
Yeah, I'm really run down.
Really run down.
You've just
overcome a bit of an illness.
I mean, yeah. It's your fault.
No, it's not. I didn't give
you the illness. I overcame mine.
With such
tenacity that that disease
is now gone.
It's not even
a car, you're just making noises now.
Now I'm down with the sickness.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Have high
energy, James. Oh, no, no.
Tone it down again.
Yeah, I got what I asked for and I didn't like it.
Yeah, exactly. So maybe next time
just temper your expectations.
Maybe it's fine
that i'm ill and tired yeah maybe i shouldn't be asking too much so how do you think this is gonna
go uh i think once we're moving pieces around we're jazzing there's convoys on the go planes
in the air it'll be a lot of fun i'm starting to come up with a plan you got a plan starting
well like for how you're gonna play the game properly yeah like what i'm gonna do on my turn
Oh, why have you thought that far ahead?
I mean, you should have.
I've been busy today.
I've been putting all these pieces into little plastic bags.
Yeah, did that require 100% of your brain capacity?
Today it did.
Boy, that's really sad.
Yeah, I had some fuel to, you know, give me a bit of brain fuel.
And it didn't work.
Then I had some skips, had a bag of skips.
Didn't work.
And now I've got a bit of a headache.
yeah
I mean
you've got to get your shit together
well just will myself
to not have an illness
that's not a reasonable
expectation don't you think
I mean I'm expecting
out of you
and I'm an incredibly reasonable man
no I've always said you're not
I've always said you're not
something about you
something about you I just don't like
you rubbed me the wrong way andrew good you should you should be annoyed by me it's part
of my tactics no i'm gonna i'm gonna keep level-headed not gonna fall to the trump that
they did the bad guys you're not gonna try and rebuild the roman empire uh
that was
that was your new year's resolution
no my new year's
resolution was to
I can't
actually remember it was to be less angry
at the game
no no I did actually make a new year's resolution
what like a life one
it was on new year's eve
so of course you can't remember it
no no
bit busy for new year's eve and
I can't remember what my resolution
was, but I think it was
something to do with beating you at the
game. That's not happening
this year. Oh!
Happy New Year!
It's a poorly thought out resolution.
Feliz Navidad!
When no one
can't stop singing
as a crutch.
Oh,
I need to get that last little bit of energy
out somehow. No,
don't get it out. Use it.
Harness it for the podcast. I'm using it.
I'm using it right now.
Okay.
It's being harnessed.
Oh.
And that was it.
This is just noises, man.
It's called ASMR.
No one's enjoying this.
James is.
At least you are.
Yeah.
At least you've come in here with a bad attitude and bad energy and ruined this podcast, but
at least you're having fun, eh?
I'm having a fucking great time.
you're a fucking mess
and as you can see
the friendship's
breaking down
fast
oh
I just
I don't want to be ill
I don't like being ill
it's such a burden
power through
this is me
powering through
power through better
no I can't sing
down with the sickness
use more power
and I can't make
loud groaning noises
and I'm not really sure
what other outlet
I've got to get better
use words
I'm using words
right now
I'm articulating
why I think
that you're
really making me feel worse
and that's fine
it's good that you feel worse
when I'm talking
this is gaslighting by the way
no it isn't
it's mean and pointless
gaslighting is when someone's not feeling very well
and then you say something
that they don't want to hear
it just simply isn't gaslighting
I've never gaslit anyone
especially not you
why especially not me
we're in a competitive environment
you're primed to gaslight me
but I haven't
you're gaslighting me right now
about the gaslighting
I don't see it that way
you're crazy
you're hysterical James
I was going to sing Feliz Navidad again
I don't think you should have got a haircut
This seems like a Samson type situation
But for podcasting
I didn't get a haircut
You did, you got rid of all your hair
I shaved my head
Spending too much on hair gel you see
Were you spending anything on hair gel?
Yeah
Do you think I'm just a shoplift hair gel?
I need to use it somehow
Do you think my hair just used to look like that?
I mean
It's upsetting
if you had to use
product to make it
look like that
wow fuck you
see this is why
I did it
why
to get rid of the
me saying true
things about you
got called Brittany
today at work
all because my hair
went from
length to
being all gone
I mean she's the
world's most famous
bald person
so that makes sense
Lex Luthor
not real
not as famous
as Britney Spears
um
Dwayne The Rock
Johnson
real, not as famous
as Britney Spears. Oh, here's one
for you. Mark Sinclair.
Who is that?
You may know him by his
alter ego. Oh, Vinnie D.
Vinnie D? Well, yeah, he's the most
famous man in the world, but he's not bald.
You tried to reach out
to him last week to ask him to come on the
podcast. I haven't yet. I'm waiting
until we have some episodes out so he can
hear.
And then I'll get in touch with him
violent contact form on his website the thing is this the podcast isn't about family so he's not
interested it's about sandy nazis there's a lot of cars involved oh that's true you could do like a
like a fast and furious prequel yeah and i get a riddick on turn 50 you get what i get a fury
riddick shows up yeah on turn 50 yeah have you not know we're injecting a lot of the supernatural
and other properties into this game.
Oh, fuck, I did not realise
that Riddick shows up.
I'm going to send him
after Rommel.
Riddick versus Rommel is going
to be an exciting turn 50.
I'd like to see that animated.
And to make it more interesting,
because Rommel, he gets a car,
as you may remember, it doesn't have an FM
radio. No FM for Rommel.
What it does have... God, he's got to listen to
the worst shows. What it does have is
a flux capacitor. No, it doesn't.
yeah it does
the Nazis never invented time travel
yeah Doc Brown did
and he was a Nazi?
Nazi sympathiser
oh that's concerning
I've not seen those films
what he did do though
is he was helping build a bomb for the Libyans
and the game's set in Libya
there we go
damn it you get a Doc Brown
I get Doc Brown
he's gonna give a flux capacitor to the Libyans
wait doesn't he rip them off?
he does yeah
so I get to take resources off you
under the guise of an enigmatic scientist
yeah
that'll be fun
I'd love to know how they met
Doc Brown and Marty McFly
just hanging out
what's a normal relationship that should be modelled
I feel like that's what we've got going on
I'm a very old man
you're Doc Brown
you're 74
I wish I was that close to death
and I'm in high school
yeah we shouldn't be making any evidence
of this talk
why not
If you're saying I'm like Doc Brown
I'm a bad guy
Doc Brown's a nice man
Why is he hanging out with that kid
And why isn't he telling people about time travel
Doesn't he just use it
To like facilitate incest
No he didn't
No that's what Monty McFly does by accident
Yes because Doc Brown facilitates it
Doc Brown didn't mean to do that
He essentially made an incest machine
That also travels through time
That's not what the Gluck's capacitor is
The flux capacitor is a piece of scientific equipment
that Doc Brown manifested in his psyche
when he hit his head really hard on the sink.
So it's the result of a brain injury.
Yeah, it works.
I might have to watch these films one day.
You haven't seen Back to the Future?
No, not like...
Oh, what the fuck?
This isn't okay.
I have a few shocking blind spots.
yeah pop culture seems to be one of them
yeah but my version
seems better so I don't want to
corrupt that by watching the actual film
well we've
we've got
we've got to go through
something much more exciting than
time travel we're delving
back in time in our own little way
it's not more exciting than time travel
it is time travel
it's not even time travel it's just playing a board game
which you like don't get angry
I'm not angry at it.
Again, I'm just thinking things through a little bit.
So next time, we're going to do the naval convoy plan
and maybe, if we can get to it,
we're going to put our pieces down on the board.
That is the next thing.
We're putting the pieces down on the board.
Now we've got them in their little baggies.
Which we have to do every week we play.
So that can't take a full three hours.
It can't, it can't.
We need to figure out how to do that really quickly.
Really quickly.
I think that's it.
I think we're done. I think we're done today.
I think that's it. Really?
Yeah. I think we've talked about
everything we need to talk about.
And I think it's time for me to go to bed.
Alright.
What do you feel?
Yeah, I mean, you probably should.
You got more to say?
I hope you're better next week.
I'll be better than you,
sunshine.
Let's, no,
realistic goals. Be better than you were this week.
can't be better than peak performance
if this was peak performance
this is over
this podcast and this friendship
in that case
I turned down Mensa and this is your peak
well in that case you heard it here folks
you listened to the final episode of
War With A Mate
this is it, this is where it all falls apart
so tune in next week
we'll speak to you next time
you'll hear what went on
And I suppose pray for me.
Make sure I get better.
Or pray for him to get worse.
It's up to you.
It depends how nasty you are, I suppose.
But either way, I'm going to be praying for all of you tonight.
Pray that you all have a really nice evening
and that you get a nice fish finger sandwich
from selected Greg stores.
So this is very local.
This is incredibly local.
It's a local podcast for local people.
Local people, brave people, subtle people, humble people.
And that's it.
If you don't want any of those things, you can fuck off.
We'll speak to you next time.
Good evening.
Good night.
Good morning.
I apologize for him.
I'm going to bed.
Stay subtle, humble, and brave, guys.
Get some rest.
See you next time.
We'll be right back.
