Watch What Crappens - #1691 RHONJ: Too Late to Apolo-Gia

Episode Date: February 10, 2022

All hail the rise of the new Supreme on this week's Real Housewives of New Jersey. Gia becomes a Housewife in training when she lets her uncle have it, and Marge and Delores try to stop Jen's... victim tour in its tracks. This week's bonus episode is a trailer breakdown of Below Deck Sailing Yacht and is also a Crappens On Demand video. Find all of our premium bonus episodes at https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. We're on tour! Get our tour stop dates and your tickets at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Hi, how are you? Good, how's it going, baby? Oh my god, it's going so well. It's Wednesday, mid-and-half way through the week. Yeah, yeah. Everybody, thanks so much for being here on this little show. We love to do this show. We love seeing you on the road, which is where we are right now. Go get your tickets at watchwitcrapins.com and a list of cities coming up next week. We are going to San Diego. We're going to be playing Observatory North Park on February 17th. And the next night we're in Los Angeles at the Bellosco fieta. San Diego, we're going to be doing
Starting point is 00:01:31 Real Housewives of Orange County live. And the Bellosco in LA, we're going to be doing Real Housewives of New Jersey live. So go get your tickets for that. Coming right after that March 3rd, 4th and 5th. We're going to be in St. Paul, then Milwaukee, then Chicago, followed by Philadelphia, Washington, DC, Pittsburgh, Denver, San Francisco, Detroit, Columbus, Cleveland, Houston, and we're going to end up in Dallas, Texas. So go get your tickets. Thanks to everyone who's come so far. And if you want some merch, like two or shirts, crappy's merch, we've had a lot of really cool new stuff over at crapenswarch.com. Yeah, it looks so good. This is like, this is like big boy merch. Like, this is real, this
Starting point is 00:02:20 is real nice stuff. So yeah, go check that out for sure. And today, today we are talking some real house size of New Jersey, a pretty phenomenal episode. Like just, it started off with a bang. It just went strong the entire time. It is a mess this season. And basically we open, it's a big episode for Gia. A lot of people are saying like, wow, Gia,
Starting point is 00:02:47 get her the, if these women held anything up in the opening credits, Gia could hold it, but they don't hold anything at all. Get her the meatball, invisible meatball. Yeah, this is the rising of a new supreme for those of you who watch America and horror story. This is definitely little housewife and training coming up on the scene, you know, kind of being ridiculous. Looks exactly like her mother in the Diary of Reveal Sessions,
Starting point is 00:03:14 and it was also just a classic episode of housewives because I change sides, I think 20 times during this episode. I just kept changing sides, And I'm very firm in my side. It's like, this person is wrong. That's it. And I get really furious, but I changed, I think every 10 minutes this episode. Yeah. Yeah, it was very, there's a lot of vacillation.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It was great. And I think that with Jiya, she was, I know, I think that like, she spent her teenage years having to be strong for her family. She had to like, you know, her mom was in jail, then her dad was in jail. She sort of had to be the big sister. She had to be responsible. And at this point, everything's kind of evened out.
Starting point is 00:03:58 So she's like, you know what? I'm finally gonna be an angry teenager. Okay, I may be 2021, but now I'm gonna be an angry teenager. And good for you, good for you, Gia, you're getting that experience. Unfortunately for Gia, this family so immature that she can't even pull it off because she has to still go take care of everybody else in the end.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Like, she really starts off like, that's it, I'm throwing all caution to the wind. I'm fighting with you. Like, she was even doing the monjeefingers, you know, I was going to say she was, you know what she was doing? She did the five finger point. That's like a real like that's her new her new thing where she points with all five fingers and then she like waves all five fingers and then she points it herself with all five fingers. She just sort of sticks them all out there. Yes, she's like doing the Montes slash chef's kiss.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Come on! You know, and she's doing that, but then she's still, you know, everyone's home with her. She's still had to go pick them up off the floor. I'm not being. So let's just get it started, shall we? I'm having a kink off the summer party. Teresa is having her big pool party
Starting point is 00:05:04 for the end of the summer. And Gia is mad at Uncle Joe because Uncle Joe's been saying had dads a piece of shit, eh? Which he is, by the way, just for fact checking, it's true. He is. Joe, you guys huge piece of shit. And Jen has entered this as kind of the victim because just to catch everybody up on the
Starting point is 00:05:26 history, because people were reminding me of it this week on Take a Seat. This started with Melissa writing some Instagram, like to the true queen. Basically, an anti-gen post that everybody was liking and commenting on. So then Jen made a big nasty post back at them, calling the Gorgas Crooks and all this other stuff. And then it comes into the party like, Wayne anybody talking to me, baby? Like the big victim. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:54 That's what she does best. I mean, she just drops bombs everywhere and then she is so good about being the- I'm just a little overwhelmed. I don't know if I could take another step on the flex zones, baby. So where it all culminated last week was Margaret saying, you know what? You know what? Yeah, husband had an affair. Okay. He had an affair with the receptionist and that's why he can't work there anymore. And she's like, excuse me, it's the office manager. Let's get the hierarchy of the office in check. It started the recap.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Right. I guess what? They're all both examples are incorrect. Because it was a pharmaceutical rep. I got your factory. So then we come back right to this point. And Jen's telling Trey who's really just looking like someone has just you know put her in a warm bubble bath She's just kind of staring ahead like blink blink blink blink blink with no expression on her face
Starting point is 00:06:51 I'm just like I mean come on at least get the facts fake my husband and I have never been strong like this and my husband My husband is the best Trey's just like blink blink blink blink I'm always like you but you know what you insult everyone else But you know what you just not honest you know what audience Jen has feeling nice to me for having an affair for years for years and you know what Clip of that of yeah like a million clips of Jennifer being like, you know, raised around
Starting point is 00:07:27 the deltasers. You were born having sex with five men. Yeah. It's like Jen going through a pumpkin patch ride with her kids. Watch out. The pumpkin eat is near. Cheetah cheetah pumpkin eat. It's like everywhere she could go.jus announcing that March is a hooker. It's just her going to the wikipedia page for the show cheaters. Is this one about Margaret? How about this one? How about this one? Wow, it's an entire show all about Margaret Joseph's called cheaters.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I want to let Kabab on a cheater bread. Man, this is a a Euro restaurant. I couldn't, I couldn't believe it. I went to watch, I went to watch. I went to watch the Thundercats and look, there was Lionel and Panthra and Chicharra saw him. Margaret Johnson.
Starting point is 00:08:14 She said the forever small. I just want some cheetah print, baby. No, no one here cares. That someone cheated on their wife, okay? Or their husband. This is Jersey. This is America. Hey Margaret, I just saw you at the gas station, the convenience store on the bag of Cheetos.
Starting point is 00:08:32 So, sorry, I was swallowing. No, no, that was a swallow. It was a, it was, it was, we, we, we invoked Chester the Cheetah and now it is done. That was not as shitty as it sounded. I was swallow laughing. I was like, honestly, I thought it was going to end when I did a real stretch with Chitara from the Thundercats, but, you know, we were able to get to the Cheetos place. For those of you who need a warning, that's a kind of day. It's going to be that day. So she's, Marge is saying, you know, Jen is the biggest hypocrite because her husband cheated. Well, you know, look, I don't think that that's actual, that's not accurate, right? Because Jen's husband had a fair, so maybe she's sensitive to people having a fair.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Like, I'm standing up for Jen for, you know, shaming you all that time, but it's not really the same thing. Like, if she had shaming you all that time, but it's not really the same thing. Like if she had the affair, then that would be hypocrisy. But it's not hypocritical to call out a cheater when you've been cheated on, right? Yeah, I actually, like it's, yeah, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:39 like she's sensitive to it, but it's like it's weird, because technically I think you're right. I think it's not hypocrisy, because it's like it's weird, because technically, I think you're right. I think it's not hypocrisy, because she's more like, of course, now that we know that she's been cheated on, of course, she gets really angry at people who are cheaters. But I think the hypocrisy is that like she was forgiving to Bill, and yet she seems to really be judgy
Starting point is 00:10:04 about other people who do it Um, I also want to point out that if Salt Lake City is the show that's all about long year didn't have my back I had your back who had my back then new Jersey is turning into the show that's all about your hypocrite You know hypocrite your hypocrite Your hypocrite bad that everyone says hypocrite this episode You're a hypocrite. You're a hypocrite. You're a hypocrite, baby. Everyone says hypocrite this episode.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Even the title of the episode was hypocrite. It was like hypocrisy, democracy. I don't know, but it had hypocrisy in it. So and by the way, I'm saying it's not technically hypocritical, but it's still shitty what Jen has been doing for season. It is. It's like it's totally shitty. So I'm not standing up for that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no She got off track because she got in a fight with Jen. So she walks off and Jen's like,
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah, I'm not a liar. I could lie but I didn't lie. Just told you the truth, baby. Yeah, she's bringing up something that happened a long time ago. Had I'm not going to talk about it. She's going to, you want some food? You want some water? Teresa says something.
Starting point is 00:11:23 She says every single time jeopardy ends. I don't understand what just happened, it, hi, hi, that's like her, that's like her police siren. Hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, what did I miss? And Dolores goes up to tree and she goes, what just happened? I was talking to Donald front over there about mentoring my son. Let me fill me in, fill me. So you've got the two camps, right? So then, um, Marge is like, you know what I said,
Starting point is 00:12:04 I said, just be honest, for Christchurch, just be honest, somebody. And she tells us, I've known about Bill Saphir for years. Okay, I mean, now Jen is rude off the flesh nose, drained here, but before she had that surgery, whenever her name would come up, it would be the first story that endless people would talk about, was this affair?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Okay. Yeah, it's because, and you know, it's not even a first time I've mentioned this. And we got a flashback to whatever trip it was in Mexico, where she's like, oh yeah, maybe it was in his girlfriend's bed. And then back to the present, she goes, but you know what, Jennifer had such a visceral reaction that I'm like, I'm not going to do this.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I'm not going to bring it up. And then we got a flashback of Jennifer. And be like, shut up, father. She's like, so you know what? But you know what, tonight she just pushed me too far. The mod was pushed too far. How could they show this epic clip of 2019 with Marge saying, you know what, your husband sleeps in the pool house and she's like, I don't care where my husband sleeps. She goes, yeah, whether it's in his girlfriend's bed and I'm just just stands up and was like, you shut the fuck up with that!
Starting point is 00:13:06 She's so mad. And then she eats the March E.C. or Derven says, hit an herb. Yeah, how could you leave that out? How could you leave that out? Hit an herb. So, Margot, you know, I said your husband also had an affair, but you worked it out, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:22 And the girl's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, March. Jackie especially, she's like, oh, no, no. And she's like, well, I knew about her affair because I knew about Bill's affair because Margaret told me, but I would never have brought it up because I know firsthand how bringing up infidelity can hurt a couple, even when it's completely not true, completely love Evan.
Starting point is 00:13:47 He doesn't even go to a gym. I don't know what people is talking about. He's not talking about this. I also like how all the women are just like cringing over Margaret saying she, you know, that she announced that they'll have an affair. And they all cringed, but then the camera sort of catches Tracy, who's just like the most vacant of vacant people to ever come onto a real house
Starting point is 00:14:06 size of New Jersey. And we've had some vacant people, I mean, we've had Jacqueline Dorida, who is really an icon of vacancy, but Tracy's just standing there. She reminds me of like a birch tree that went to Talbotz, you know? Just sort of like white, inanimate,
Starting point is 00:14:23 but dressed in something. I can actually see that. And you know, Tracy's backstory is that she was sleeping with her husband, Tiki Barber, when his wife was pregnant. You know, so we've got all this cheating stuff going on. And Tracy's just sitting there like completely unironically like, oh yeah, this is bad. You know? And so Dolores is asking Jen, she's like, what happened over there?
Starting point is 00:14:46 And she's like, she just wanted to sabotage that happy home. What's happening? And it's like, okay, Jen, Jen. All right, let's, did something happen with you and Bill that I don't know about? Even of course, I do know about it because I fucking worked for Bill. Does everybody remember this? I totally forgot that.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Did you learn more that she's? Yeah, she used to be a surgical assistant for Bill. And I know it's not good for her. So Sean Medilla told me, she sent me a clip. And I was like, remember when Delores said she was one of Bill's surgical assistants? Did not remember that at all. Did not.
Starting point is 00:15:20 That's kind of blowing my mind. So Delores is like, yeah, I mean, there's something I don't know about that you guys, you guys don't have railings either, do you? Because I don't have railings. You guys have railings? Did they build ball? Did they put torn-ups on Dolores in your house?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Tell me the truth. It's divorce worthy. All right. Was there a pebble tile and no doing knobs? I need to know the truth now. And so Jennifer's like. Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. And Dolores goes, all right,
Starting point is 00:15:44 I'm just gonna go out on a hunch and say, I know what you're saying, because, you know, I'm a woman. He bought some iceberg lettuce and you asked for romaine. That's what happened, right? I'm a woman, I get these things. No, it's bigger than that. You got it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 All right, so he doesn't understand what a caught gun is. Is that it? I'm a woman, I get this. Like that. So Dolores is like, you know what? I feel sorry for Jennifer. I mean, this is a relationship between a married couple that has railings in their house. And that should not be broadcasted in public. That's why you say, take it outside.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yes. Yeah. So just like move on from it, you leave it where it is. Okay. That's also what I've told Frank many times about many different items. He's left around the house. And Jen's like, everyone makes mistakes. And she's like, yeah, I mean, I married Frank. Hello. Hello, I've been dating a guy who leaves his motorcycle in the living room. I know a thing to do about mistakes. So then we see alcohol porting and pouring and the party is moving on and we see a close
Starting point is 00:16:51 up of that same lady who's like, we later find out his Caroline. Yes, Caroline. And then we see Louis, Louis, you totally right. That we got completely sidetracked from an episode about Louie's first time shooting with the whole gang now that it's something that embarrassed happen. Embarrassing has happened to him. I'm social media. So he's still nervous and he's trying to be cool.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And he's like, hey, Joe, you wanna shot? Come on, Joe. You can just imagine like someone in the bushes be like, come on, tell him, tell him, Louie. Tell him, you can do it, Louie. Say it. Say it to his face, Louie. You can just imagine like someone in the bushes being like, come on, tell him, tell him, Louis, tell him, you can do it, Louis, say it, say it to his face, Louis. You want a shot? Come on, say it like it, me and Louis. You want a shot, Joe?
Starting point is 00:17:33 Say it from the heart, Louis. From the heart. And Joe is not really liking Louis right now, and he doesn't know if he's gonna be exposing Louis or not like Joe just looks nervous, you know? And Louis's like, come on, Joe. And he's like, uh, you know what? I'll do a shot. All right. Hey, Bill, go get us a shot. What the hell, dude? Get your shot. You're like, you're going to be a lot of lead muscle man. So then Bill goes off to get the shots and Jo turns to Louie goes, no, I like him, but his wife runs her mouth too much.
Starting point is 00:18:04 to me goes, no, I like him, but his wife runs her mouth too much. Such a pig. And Louis just looks around like, oh God, don't make me film another apology for the police. Please don't get me in trouble. So Bill goes to check in on Jan. He's like, hey, girlfriend, you okay? Love you. And she's like, Bill, I just want to go home right now.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I want to go home right now. I want to go home right now. But you haven't thrown up yet. And Dolores is like, you know what? I'm going to let you three talk about it. I'm sorry, too. I'm going to let you two talk about it. All right, I'll be over here. Yeah, he's like, so you want to say bye to Teresa?
Starting point is 00:18:40 No, Bill, I don't want to go home. Are you sure? Yeah, Bill. I want to go.. Are you sure? Yeah, man. I want to come. They start walking off and marginally, I like Jennifer's leaving. Jennifer is leaving. Jennifer is leaving the house. I'm like, it's like, oh my god,
Starting point is 00:18:55 I feel real bad for Bill. Now that you exposed him, you feel bad for Bill. What the fuck, New Jersey? I feel like, of course, real housewives of New Jersey is like, oh my god I feel so sorry for the man who cheated But then Jackie says but I feel more bad for Jen Jennifer then Bill. I mean, how about you don't stick you taking someone else How about that? I mean to Laura's goes that's a rough one Also that thing like just don't stick you dick and somebody. I mean you make it sound so easy, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah, I also I'd like I'd love to see Dolores moderate some sort of presidential debate. And it's like, oh, that's a tough one. That was that was a good point. That was a good thing to robot. Listen, someone's got to eat shit here and it's not going to be Biden. Listen, someone's got to eat shit here and it's not going to be Biden. All right, I need to know something. What about the climate is the changing? And I need to know because I've got, I need to know if I'm wearing a bikini tomorrow or a fur coat. So one of you just, just tell me, listen, one of you calls a global warming. The other calls it climate change.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'll tell you this. I've got five levels in my townhouse. I have no idea why anybody going to do something about that. Huh? I've got you this. I've got five levels in my townhouse. I have no idea why. Anybody gonna do something about that? Huh? I've got a question. It's about Ukraine. Why do we care so much about construction? Okay, so there's a crane somewhere.
Starting point is 00:20:15 We gotta make it into a big event. So, let's see. So Trees is like, Yeah, Marge attracted me last year and about seeing a rumor about Jackie at a party. And she just did the same thing to me and my party.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I look, that's Teresa take away. That's Teresa take away. It's like all that hurts. Yeah, indication for her. I just wrote your welcome because they just took the hit off you. You were just like going, I got to watch my hands. So like go inside and plan how you're going to deal with all of your drama.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And now they've taken the heat off. So you're welcome. So Teresa and G.I. go to sit down with Joe because Joe's still sitting like next to the pool guy, whatever his name is his name Marty. You know, it's not Marty. Of course, it's not Marty. What a Tony, Tony, yeah. Marty's in the pool, Tony cleans the pool. So they sit down and he's like, oh, Jennifer Bill left it in and Joe's like, why? And Diego's because people say things they shouldn't say. Yeah, and she's like kind of laughing with her mom
Starting point is 00:21:19 and doing that flat hand thing. Or she's like, because people say things they don't say, right mom. Like she's really coming into this snotty and shows like, hey, listen, listen, listen, listen. You know what? That's why I didn't want to come here, all right? I don't like to be around people that are nasty
Starting point is 00:21:35 and you're calling me a quirk and you put it out on social media. You don't like putting stuff out about you. You don't like people putting stuff out about you, right Louis? Right Louis? And he's like, oh God, is going to try and come for me. See it from your heart, Louis, whatever you're going to say from the heart. So then Gia is like, she's muttering in the corner.
Starting point is 00:21:54 She's like, we know what people get hurt and people get offended by other things that people say. And that's why people just shouldn't open their mouth in the first place. Just like dad didn't deserve that either, which now listen, we've always loved Gia. But like, let's not act like juicy Joe is innocent here. Okay, you can't grill Joe Gorgah for finally just like snapping with Joe Judi's.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I don't talk about like, you know, if you open your mouth, you're gonna get whatever. Who opened his mouth first? There's Joe Judi's. Joe Judi's just talking some bunk shit. Oh my God, remember when Joe Judeis in the winery trip was like talking to that lady's like,
Starting point is 00:22:30 yeah, my bitch wife is here. And everyone's like, oh my God, Jo's talking to his mistress. And then so Teresa went and fucked him up against a tree. I mean, do you know, come on. We've all had our moments. Like that argument works both ways, Gia. It works both ways.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, so Jo's like, like, he wipes his nose and like, just starts looking around confused. And three is like, but Jean, look at me saying, but Jean, like, I'm going to stand up for my brother. I'm going to dot, dot, dot, Joe. You're going to jump in here and Joe's like, well, what? Gia, Gia, what? Because I hear you talking, Gia. All right. I hear you. And she's like, you're going to comment me disrespectfully because then I won't talk to you ya. And she's like, you're gonna come at me disrespectfully because then I won't talk to you, okay? And he's like, ah, if you wanna see something, go ahead because I'm your uncle and your Godfather
Starting point is 00:23:13 and I'm older than you, I got bigger muscles, like I stand up career, okay? So, go ahead, go ahead. His vein is popping out and Gia is so half-sweathed trained, right? Because all he says is Gia, I hear you talking. She's like, you want to come at me disrespectfully now? Doing like her little hand at him. And she's like, you know what, Joe? It doesn't mean anything to me,
Starting point is 00:23:34 because I'm an adult now. And I won't have you disrespect. So you can treat me like an adult. And he's like, I ain't disrespecting you. She's like, you know what? You're not going to talk down to me, Eva. you. She's like, you know what? You're not gonna talk down to me either. You didn't. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:23:49 Show rarely talks down to anyone. I mean, at least physically, you know, it's always looking up. So Gorka, he's like, listen, I would never allow my daughter to talk to my aunt or my uncle. Where were you raised? This is horrendous.
Starting point is 00:24:04 So he gets up and he storms off because she's kind of actually, like she kind of just won that actually, which is why he has to storm off because he has nothing to say. She's like, don't talk to, like you have to, you know, treat me with respect.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So he doesn't really know how to do respect for women. So he just storms off. You know, but also anything he says, she's like, do not talk down to me. Oh, now you're talking down to me He's like, oh my god. So he just runs out of there basically and Joe's like, oh my god This is ridiculous. I'm out of here. I would never let my kids talk to my aunt uncle like that And she's like walk away, Joe and he's like that was horrendous
Starting point is 00:24:42 So he walks off and then he turns back around and whips out the victim thing. He's like, I love you since the first moment I saw you. So keep it up. Because I love you the first moment I saw you. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, do you get an award for that for being an uncle
Starting point is 00:25:01 and loving your niece? I mean, I think that's sort of like part of the job. So she's like, well, I haven't seen you in six months five finger point at your face. I don't know what you're doing right now, Zia Zhou. So now he's like, so he storms off. And Melissa's like, did something happen? Did something happen?
Starting point is 00:25:17 And he just storms off by himself and the camera's following him. And he's like, these fucking people. And so then Melissa comes over comes over to Theresa and Gia and Marginja, all the ladies gather around. You know, it's like, fight, fight, fight. So they gather. And she is like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:25:33 He says he doesn't like people making Nazari remarks. And I say, yeah, just like he did to my dad, didn't deserve that neither. Manta! Literally if anyone deserved a Nazari, it's Joji dice. I mean, I know she's his daughter. So she's going to stand up for him. She loves him no matter what.
Starting point is 00:25:51 But like someday she will realize, I think Joe Gorkas on the right on this one. Yeah, I think it's just a whole saying. It's a saying a national TV over and over and scream about him being a piece of shit. You know, like we get it, you know, but it's It's fun for all the rest of us. It's fun for the rest of the people around the family. I actually I support it I think it's not for Gio not for myself. Yeah, you just not watch it. Yeah
Starting point is 00:26:19 So Joe yeah, right. Could you imagine you're on TV tonight. Please don't watch So Joe, yeah, right. Could you imagine? You're on TV tonight, please don't watch. No, I'm not dead. So Joe's walking around going, nobody knows the disrespect. And she is like, but look at him walking off. Look at him walking off.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Emma is like, but she is just because he can't believe the disrespect, like he's just in shock, she. And she just laughs in her face. And she goes, if you're gonna laugh off your uncle crying about you, it's not good. Gia go give my hug. And she says like, Gia laughing.
Starting point is 00:26:52 She is laughing. Well, literally laughing. Honestly, Gia's allowed that laughter because Joe being all healthy about disrespect is very funny. Okay, it's very, very funny. So she goes, I'm not laughing at all. Don't get me aggravated now. I'm like aggravated about what? She is just in a fight in her own where everything someone says. She's like, don't
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Starting point is 00:28:25 But crap ends commercial. So then Joe Gorgas, she looks at me like I'm the devil. Their father was the devil, not me. So Melissa's like, listen, she loves you, like he loves Antonia. And by that I mean he wants you to never find a career and he wants you to find a man, but not have sex before you're married.
Starting point is 00:28:47 That's all. And open the door for men, okay? But you know what? He just like he understands you, but he doesn't understand you. You know what I mean? Okay, look here, take this laser keychain and flash it on the ground. He'll start running after it and help you get in here. This ever happened, okay?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Oh, I also have this feather that's attached to a string to attach to a little pole and you can just sort of wave that around. He loves that too. That works really well. And she is like, fine, I'll go talk to a man. And Dolores just has her mouth cut. We're like, oh my gosh. It's her eternity. So outside Joe and Louis and Tony are with the bench in the driveway. And Tony's like, come on, a father ain't here now. Right? And what's the closest thing to a father?
Starting point is 00:29:32 A Christmas ham? No, we're Uncle. All right. So, so Gia comes over and Gorgas, he's like, ah, look at her. And she goes, look at me. What? What? You're going to disrespect me again? I'm like, okay. So this resolution. Look at me. What? What, you're gonna disrespect me again?
Starting point is 00:29:46 I'm like, okay, so this resolution is off to a great start. Yeah, it's like the victim, you know, the victim Olympics. So she starts laughing and Theresa goes, no, yeah, Lynn. And she's like, I don't need an authorized you guys. Come on. And he's like, no, no, that's fine. Everyone would stay. Watch her nail me to the cross like Joe Christ.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yeah, he goes. So sitting at the end of the table, mumbling onto your breath was nice. Tell the truth. Tell the truth. And she was like, I was talking to my mom. It wasn't nice. You got me aggravated.
Starting point is 00:30:19 So they both like using the aggravated card. That's what we're learning here. Yeah, they're aggravated. They're both using aggravated and then the, um, the mantra fingers at each other. There's just a pointing mantra fingers at each other. And she's like, but come on, you're, you're talking, but you're not letting me get a word in, Joe.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I'm a list of says, let her talk. So he's like, he's the thing. I've been dealing with this for 20 years. I don't want you to feel like I'm a devil of a man. For what? I stuck up for my sister. I stuck up for my parents. And she is like, can I speak? And then she goes, don't bring up my nona
Starting point is 00:30:56 and my nona, I'm like, he literally, like it was such a light reference. But this shows that she's Theresa's daughter. Because Theresa has some trigger words, where if you just say the word, like it was such a light reference, but this shows that she's Teresa's daughter, because Teresa has some trigger words, where if you just say the word, like even in a very positive context, she's like, okay, this is literally my way of getting out of this argument, I'll just say, don't bring that up, right?
Starting point is 00:31:18 So that's what Gia's doing. Don't bring up my no-no-no-my-nana, which is also funny because, like, you know, no disrespect, but I kind of feel like Joe Gorgher has like the, the Nana and Nana card. Like, I think that's like, that's his before it's G is. Oh, that's his parents. It's his parents, not, and like, I'm just saying, like, it's not, like, she's like, don't
Starting point is 00:31:40 bring them up as if it's like, it's, you know, Jackie saying it's like, eh, that's your uncle. I think that, you know, it's okay. And she's like, but why would you ever even want to say that about them? Which I missed what he said about them. He didn't say anything, right? He didn't say anything. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:31:57 This is like Teresa's daughter right here, because he literally said like, your dad talk shit about like, he bases like your dad talk shit about my parents, your grandma, and your grandpa grandpa and then she's mad at Joe for don't don't you say that about about about them, but he's saying no it was your dad. It was her it was Joe. Drew Dyson actually talked the most smack. Yeah, and so he's like so she goes don't pick up.
Starting point is 00:32:19 No, no, why would you do that? And he's like, cuz it's true. Sorry, I don't even know what we're talking about, but it's true. And she goes, cause it's true. Sorry. I don't even know what we're talking about, but it's true. And she goes, but it's not. And then she does the point wave, you know, like she waves her finger in front of his face. And then she walks away. This is the third walk off we've had in five minutes into this episode. So she goes on and marks very, very much. Just looking at like, you know, Nats flying invisible Nats flying around his head confused. And Tony's like, come on, she's a young kid, Joe. Look at her. Well, I mean, he's Tony's actually kind of right though, regardless of everything I just said, Tony's like,
Starting point is 00:32:53 why do you gotta say that? She's young. She's sensitive. That's true too. I mean, Joe, Joe, for as much as he's saying, as he's saying, I'm the adult here. You got to see me with respect. Yes, but you also have to act like the adult here and you have to realize this is like a girl whose dad, as much of a shit turret as her dad is, is literally in another country and she's had to deal with like a lot of bullshit as a result of this and she's just acting out. Yeah, because you called her father a piece of shit multiple times on national TV for years. It's not like it just happened recently. And again, it's not like he's wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:28 But still, she's asking you a very simple thing. Like, is he ever just gonna say, sorry, I shouldn't have done that, sorry. He never will do it, right? So then Melissa goes to check on Gia, and she's like, I'm a bride. You know what, I just don't like when people are attacking me.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Which, no one was attacking you. No one was. This fucking foul, it's all victims. It's like passing attacking you. No one was. This fucking foul. It's all victims. It's like passing a graveyard. There's so many crosses like you pass this family and you have to hold your breath so you don't get possessed. And she is like, just stop bringing up my grand parents.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I'm like, yeah, but there were his parents too. It's not like he was bringing up something that was like, he had no like frame of reference on. And so she's like, listen, he wanted to say, I'm not lying, I would never lie. Let's just let it go. And she's like, you know what? You know what?
Starting point is 00:34:11 I'm gonna see it in my way, you'll see it your way and that's it. Do you think that's a bad idea if I went over that? What, go back, I don't know. I've gone back about five times. I kind of think number six will be the, will be the good one. You think that's okay, Melissa?
Starting point is 00:34:22 So then Dolores, this is where Dolores is. All the girls are watching and Dolores goes, listen, his feelings are hurt, but someone's got to eat shit and it's not going to be. Yeah. That's going to be Dolores's podcast. Somebody's got to eat shit. And it's not going to be been all guests guess today, someone's got to eat the shit and it's not gonna be dot, dot, dot podcast. So now, Gea is back once again with Joe Gorgher and Melissa. And he's like, talk to me. Wow, watch, because you're still looking at me like I'm five years old. Okay. He's like, no, I'm looking at you at a 21 year old. And that's where I'm shocked. And she's like, I get it, all right?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Like you have every right to be mad at my father for putting my mom in jail. All right. You don't think he's mad at himself. He's selling dildos in another country. Okay. But you know what? It comes to a point where the bashing is too much. And you know, well, I'm defending my sisters too, because they've been through
Starting point is 00:35:22 enough. The jail stuff have happened five years ago. Let it go like spray on here against a white shirt. All right. Come on. Because I don't want to fight. It's over. And she goes, okay, I want moving forward for it to be done.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Cause I never want to not see you for six months. That's insane. It's just a big five finger point. Like I'm rid, this is like, I mean this a lot. It's a big monja five finger point. And of course Joe doesn't have to apologize yet again. Joe just victim and fake cries his way out of an apology again. So she he's like, come on. Give me a hug. And then Teresa in her like squealy raspy voice. And then she is like, you know what, you're going to see it your way. I'm going to see it in my way. I I rehearsed that earlier.
Starting point is 00:36:15 It works out well. So when I stand there and you think I don't care, I just, you know, I just don't like yelling and when you yell like that, I just I want to take you by the head and I want to walk away from you. And she has her own diary room too. And she, this is where she looks exactly like tree in a good way. And she's like, I'm moving on, but you know what? It's a deep wound.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And it's a deep wound with my sister's too deep. The wound. It's deep. They're like, all right, Gia, congratulations on your first episode of the house live. Yeah, I know it. So it all is good. Everyone's happy. Everyone's happy. So now we go to some, we see some, it's the next day or so. We're seeing some things around around town. Melissa's making what appears to be a protein shake for her kid. We see Jackie's kids like out on the driveway, playing basketball, which is apparently all they've been doing for the past five years because I feel like every time
Starting point is 00:37:07 we go, Jackie's house is just playing basketball on the driveway. And then also the locks, which is super weird. And then one of the they're showing shots in New Jersey and they get a close-up of a walk sign, you know, where it shows like a pedestrian crossing the street. And one of the legs is wideed out with like spray paint. And I love the fucking jersey. Someone put a cast on the guy walking across the street. Yeah. Let's talk about the fuck with me walk, guy.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Yeah, they're like, well, we couldn't find Frank a tan, yes, so we thought we'd go for the pedestrian sign instead. Yeah, even the walk sign owns people money. I know, it was the yield sign owns people's people money. I know it was the yield sign $30,000. So now we want. Hey, you got that. Hey, pedestrian sign. You got that $30,000. I swear, I'm gonna get it. But I just need a few more people to take my crosswalk. Oh, I'm a yield sign. I'm just slow.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Who do you think is the Mafioso of Street Signs? I mean, I want to say stop sign because it's aggressive. Yeah, I feel like the Mafioso of Street Signs, maybe one way that's very bossy, one way signs of the bossy of the mall. No, this is one way. You owe bossy one way signs are the bossiest of them all like no, this is one way You owe me $30,000 It's one way my way
Starting point is 00:38:30 I Can't to give any true signs unfortunately I feel like Dolores is slippery one wet be careful slippery Teresa's dead end slippery Teresa's dead end No, Teresa's just like one of those weird construction signs that they put up But like the top flap fell over, you know Marge is no ride on red. She's like, you know what? I'm not gonna listen to you
Starting point is 00:39:03 Sue me Sue me I did it. I took her right on the red. What are you gonna what, I'm not gonna listen to you. It's a deal, yeah, sue me. Sue me, I did it. I took a ride on the red. What are you gonna do? I think Jennifer is like, do you're crossing? There's a deal crossing, baby. Watch out, it's a deal. All right, so now we're at Olivia's birthday party and of course there's a huge rented slip-in slide
Starting point is 00:39:21 for this party and Jen's, you know, just walking around, basically pointing out everything that wasn't bottled on Amazon, which is everything, you know, so she's winning in this one. So she's like, I gotta turn on the halls! Guys, you see this food! Look at all this food! Olivia! Now listen, Olivia, you only, you know, you're only getting soda cause it's your birthday, break baby. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha When Mississippi died, I've never seen a grown man cry like that. Every ever since that party, Bill just keeps coming downstairs and saying, I wish Samantha would come back. I wish Samantha would come back.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I don't know who Samantha is, but just luck with her. I'm never going to forgive you. And this is a part where I was like, my God, poor Jen. And I was like, Ronnie, stop. Just stop it. But I did feel really... I mean, I do, I was like, Ronnie, stop. Just stop it, but I did feel really,
Starting point is 00:40:25 I mean, I do really, I actually do on a human level. I do like, regardless of her reaction to all her classmates, I do actually feel badly for her that she, she had to go through this and it sounds like as we learn later on, not only did they go through this, but it was never resolved or addressed and it's just been living inside her for 10 years. And that's not good.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So I actually do feel bad that this is like in her life. Yeah, it sucks. So Bill is hiding upstairs and then she tells us that she told Bill in the car what had happened and we see the scene and she's like, Yeah, you know, so they said you had an affair and none of us are perfect, Bill. And he's like, but if you know, so they said you had an affair and you know, none of us are perfect Bill. And he's like, hmm, but if you want to put your dirty laundry out there and write a book about dirty laundry, that's your business.
Starting point is 00:41:12 But to put all those business out there, that speaks volumes about their personality. You cheated on your pregnant wife. I don't know that now is, I know it was 10 years ago sir, as well. But now's not the time to be talking about the volumes of others' personalities. And this is where there's some hypocrisy because she's you know like Jennifer is always trying to put out people's dirty laundry. So yeah, it's a little hypocrisy. So she's just like, she's a snake baby. So now Jennifer, so she's like, she's this whole party, this children everywhere and Teresa shows up
Starting point is 00:41:49 and she's like, Happy birthday, Olivia! It's hot today, ah! And then Dolores shows up and they all wind up in the kitchen just hanging out. I think Teresa forgot to live his name because she's like, Hi, where's Olivia? I wanna find Olivia, where's Olivia? I think Teresa forgot Olivia's name because she's like
Starting point is 00:42:14 Like did you just call her Denise then they have to reach you Why are you hugging that that blonde little boy Teresa? You know who Olivia is So Jim is Jim's like, oh, you know, it's the end of the summer pool party because actually her birthday is in January So she didn't get to have a pool party. So yeah, it's the second huge birthday party of the year Even though it's not a birthday baby and she's like Teresa's having a lot of her. She's like, can you say that again? It's a lot for her to follow it. She's like, yeah, so she had a birthday and her birthday's in the summer, but you celebrate
Starting point is 00:42:48 in the winter. No, all the way around Teresa. I can't use answers backwards. My sister's birthday is January 6th. And so my mom for a couple of years did that. She was like, you know what, this sucks because your birthday so close to Christmas, we're going to have a birthday party for you on July 6th. They would do this July 6th birthday, but no one's really feeling it, you know? And then the
Starting point is 00:43:10 friends are like, oh my god, your birthday's in July 2? Which is like, actually no, it's in January. And then they just all kind of look at you like loser. Oh gosh. So, like trying to steal gifts from people, you know, yeah. Um, so, uh, so Dolores is like, by the way, Jennifer, you held your own last night and you got hit with a bomb last night. You just need to reset like climbing under a table. There's a bomb. No, three sets of expression. She goes and got, you know, but look at your life. All right. I mean, that's resets an expression she goes and got you know what but look at your life all right I mean that's not even a pull out there it's a resort all right if it were up to Frank it would be a garden hose probably not even screwed into the water supply just kids jumping around with a rubbin nothing okay
Starting point is 00:43:57 you know what one time when the kids were young I told Frank go get the kids to slip inside you know what he got me just gonna slip just something that people could slip on. So, during Teresa's like, you know what, my thing is, why was it set up? My party, all right. Didn't she make a big deal out of me, an advanced party and took us, because she's a hypocrite. A magic word. So, then a producer says, oh, so do you see how do you see now? How what you did to Jackie and Evan was so wrong? And she goes, Yeah, but it was a rumor. And so I didn't say it was true, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So there's no, she doesn't, she's not taking anything away from this. Yeah. That's so true. Like, no, there was nothing wrong. I was telling them lie. Oh, okay. I was saying, yeah. And the editor was putting a bowl in. I was putting like a bass drum, a bass drum like boy. So Jennifer tells them that Bill is upstairs and she's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:45:04 This happened 10 years ago and I'm over it. You know, it was pretty simple basically. I was pregnant and then we just moved to Jersey. Baby. And I was my fourth kid. And he was working a lot. He was really feeling himself. And then I found out because I saw a credit card
Starting point is 00:45:18 of sea. He went to the club with her. I got bottom service. And then I saw a text message on his phone. I confronted him about it. I can't help it And she says yeah, I mean he admitted it to me and Then she tells us it was 10 days before she gave birth. Oh my god And so they had this talk and she's like do you want it to force to your lover?
Starting point is 00:45:40 He's in over and he said it's been over I was like how long has it been over? Cause you just found a receipt for bottle service. Yeah, exactly. So she's like, I gotta angry. I threw things at him, everything. I threw a pizza bag a lot of his face. But then the next day, I literally had question.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I then, I'm having a baby. It's true what they say. A baby sounds like a baby. So now true what they say. A baby, so everything baby. So then we decide we're just going to make it work. How did you got service from a bottle? They don't even got arms. Keep up Theresa. She's like, well, how do you feel about one more and sad? And to Laura's because I feel bad. Yeah, you think it's wrong? Yeah, I think it's wrong. Yeah, she could have messed it up their marriage, right?
Starting point is 00:46:31 Hey, Jen, you don't owe nobody an explanation, all right? So, what kind of bottle do they want? I have a question. Did they do a good job with your muffler? Because I need a new service, man, for my car. So then Jackie, by the way, I just want to say two things that I thought were shocking, not shocking, but like disturbing, was that Jennifer, she goes,
Starting point is 00:46:57 and then we never freaking spoke about it again. I'm like, I cannot believe this crazy thing happened in your marriage. And then you have, and you didn't have not spoken about it in 10 years. I mean, a lot of her behavior really makes sense. Like, I mean, you want, I mean, talk about it. Repressed emotions for crying out loud. And then I also like Dolores's way of sort of like minimizing it's going, you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:20 It happens. You'll be fine. You'll be fine. Oh, okay. Great. Yeah, Dol. Sure. Great. Yeah, Plurus is like, you know what? Kesarasara, what's done is done. What will be will be do you have to hear me so?
Starting point is 00:47:32 That's my question. So then we go to Jackie's and Jackie is just determined, not to raise the child on Bravo. It doesn't know how to say Shakuudiri. She's like, okay. They see Shakuudiri. Can you say Shakuudiri? Say Shakuudiri. She's like, dang it. Nope. Shakuudiri. Please don't do this to me. Shakuootary. She's like, okay, this is Sharkootary. Can you say Sharkootary? Say Sharkootary. She's like,
Starting point is 00:47:45 thank you. Nope. Sharkootary. Please don't do this to me. Sharkootary. Thank you. Shark, Shark, Shark, Shark, Shark, Shark, no, no, please stop singing that song. I'm saying Sharkootary. It's a different word. So they're having grilled a because the grandparents and Eric are coming over before the kids are shipped off to camps. Yeah, and Evan is barbecuing and Jackie is like, Evan's making all the food, so come enjoy some, Shakuriri, see that's how you say it, Bravo people. So everybody comes over and she's like, what's your guys like at Syringa?
Starting point is 00:48:20 And the mom's like, oh yeah, Eric and I haven't had a drink in 10 minutes. What does that even mean, Mom? We stopped and sounded out of mango margarita. Where did they go in town with a mango margarita? Did they go to islands or something? Real. So we all know it was real. It was real. It was real. It was a real sapping. Real is for a little mango rita. So it's actually a very sweet scene because the grandparent like there's such grandparents like,
Starting point is 00:48:48 ah, come over here kids, give us a kiss. It's just cute. They're like, how can I kiss in all their kids? And, and they're just like talking about sleep boy camp and Jackie's, because it was eight in the last day of seventh grade. He's about to go to camp and Jackie's like, oh, yeah, you know, why I have my first kiss in seventh grade, you know, so maybe he's something to happen for him and her mom's like, you never told me that. I was like, mom, I haven't told you a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:49:12 So she tells us about sleep away camp. And you know, Jackie has her food issues or whatever and asked someone with food issues as well. I was kind of cracking up because everything you describe revolves kind of around the food, right? Because she's like, listen, I hated sleep away camp. I was an awkward, chubby teenager with these big satin island hair and these girls wanted no part of me, but it's going to be different for my kids because they're very sporty and outgoing. It's like, oh, God, that's how I think of it too.
Starting point is 00:49:44 I'm like, God, if I had just gone through school, not chubby, if I was just sporty, it would have been different. God, I think about that all the time if I were just sporty. Like, Beyonce should come out with a song. If I were just sporty, because I think about it, like I remember in, like,
Starting point is 00:50:05 what, first grade or so, I was in like a soccer team. And we, you know, we have our games every Saturday morning. And I quit the soccer team because I wanted to stay home and watch the smurfs. And I think about it all the time, I could have been a jock. I could have been a jock. But I watched the smurfs and this is where I'm at. This is what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:50:24 We were both the same in that way, because I quit soccer too to stay home and watch TV, but also no one was like, oh my god, if only Ronnie stuck with soccer. I was the goalie and I sat there and picked grass off the ground. You know, the still, the story of my family likes to tell. Like, remember when you were the goalie and you just sat there and picked a grass, we were cheering. We were cheering. But, you know, the truth is also you'd soccer kind of sucked. I mean, because my experience with you'd soccer, We were cheering, we were cheering. But you know, the truth is also you've soccer kind of sucked.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I mean, because my experience with you soccer, I'm sure it was the same for you because when you're a kid, you don't understand certain concepts like how to play soccer well. So what would happen is, like basically the ball, like they put the ball down
Starting point is 00:51:00 and then every single kid on the field would just surround the ball and kick it. And the ball would just get kicked from all sides. Very much like a real housewives show. The ball is just getting kicked. And then you just have to wait for that moment. The ball finally gets popped out because since the ball is getting kicked from all directions all at once, the ball doesn't move.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So just like 12 little children kicking a ball until it pops out and then this little mobile children moves and finds the ball And just kicked the ball. That's so at a certain point you say I could be watching this murves God, I just remember staring at the ice chest because you know how at the end you always get a coke I would just sit there and stand on the field and stare at the ice chest like I'm gonna get a coke soon Oh, we didn't soon in New York. It was like orange drink, orange drinking, or it was orange slices and whatever it was, it definitely wasn't Coke. And the
Starting point is 00:51:51 although what I'm now I'm just going to say one of the real fun things was that if you okay, here here comes a big theoretical not only could I've been a jock, but the the lead singer of foreigner, his son was on my little youth soccer team and so the guy I'm like in his name, but he was saying everybody literally you're fine The point is this, I could have had access to all the fame and the fame and the glory of a rock star, but I quit to watch the Smurfs.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Hey, they're bigger stars. I still remember the Smurfs names, okay, for a nerd guy. We go to Margaret in a rug store, like a furniture store place. And she's just typical marriage. Like, oh, have a rug lady. All right, I'm meeting a friend here. Okay, she definitely needs stuff. Her house is empty. I mean, listen, I don't need help.
Starting point is 00:52:52 You can just go over there. Oh, you know what? Wait a minute, I do need help. Come back over here. You know what? I need something for my dining room. Due to these rug sisters, let me tell you something. I feel like carpet's making a comeback.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I don't know if you've heard. All right, go right that down. You little notebook. Wait, no, not down with you. Wait, not down with you. Can you, wait, have a question. Can you pull for me the ugliest purple carpet you can find? Oh, there it is. Gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Gorgeous. I love this. I want wall to wall, this ugly, disgusting purple speck of carpet. Thank you so much. I just want a carpet that looks like Louie if he got zits all over his face. Okay, purple with white dots. Can you find that? Okay, here's what I wanna do.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I wanna take the purple, the purple with the zits on his face carpet. Let's put it in the center. Okay, now let's take a bunch of samples. Let's put it around it. Okay, now the samples, I want you to encourage the Louie carpet. Okay, go.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Oh, look, the lawyer's is here. Hi, the lawyer. Okay, you can go away now. Not you, the lawyer's. Come back here, the lawyer's. Okay, the lawyer's. You know what, what do you still need for your house? Okay, you can go away now. Not you, Dolores. Come back here, Dolores. Okay, Dolores, you know what? Well, he still needs for your house.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Okay, you still probably need stuff, right? And she's like, oh my god, do I need stuff? I have to make it livable. I don't have railings, all right? The dogs are falling off the stairs, like it's a cliff. I was like, what? I would see a shot of her railing list staircase and a dog at the bottom of it. It's like the most
Starting point is 00:54:07 deloious update you could ever expect. Don't really like my dogs falling off of it. It's like that poor dog dog dog did you fall down they don't even fall down the stairs they fall off the stairs. I found this scene also by the way. They were talking so quickly in the scene that I had to put on close captioning and close captioning couldn't even keep up. It just fulled at one point, the closed captioning did like a few words and then it went blank and then just came back again because they all sit down and like, oh my god, this is beautiful. This is beautiful. Oh my god, I love this store. It's beautiful store. You my god I love though. I love the story. It's a beautiful story. You know what I love stores I love I love that the store has doors great doors great. It's great. It has knobs
Starting point is 00:54:49 I really appreciate knobs. I appreciate knobs. So you know what look at this tray I love a good sugar and tray what is that? I don't even know what a sugar and tray is if you try to find out what I said You can't good luck because guess what it's not on the clothes captions sugar and tray What does she say sugar and tray you just hear Jackie at home going? Shakulery Hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, did I miss anything about the sugar and tray can I weigh in a batch? I'll go do we hi hi hi hi hi hi Dolores starts she's like so I haven't seen you since some point She's oh yes. Yeah, yes the party there was some ice there. There was some ice
Starting point is 00:55:24 Oh, yes, yes, the party. There was some ice there. There was some ice. Just like, listen, I saw Jennifer and I don't like that you brought up the bill thing because you know what? Bill had to get dragged through the mud. Okay, it was like casualty of war. It was like he was a casualty of a war, a war that he started by fucking someone, but a war nonetheless. And Marvel goes, you know what? I was pushed to the end degree. I mean, what are you supposed to say when someone such a wait for it? Hip-a-crit. Hip-a-crit. Okay. So then we cut back to Jan and she's pouring some iced tea and Jackie comes over to her house and Jack is like, oh my god. I'm in packing hell. I mean my kids are going away for two weeks to Florida. I don't know if I'm out of it. I can see them again. So
Starting point is 00:56:01 Jackie is there because they I almost forgot that they became friends again very quickly in the middle of all this chaos. It's Jersey, you know, it's like two seconds later their friends again. So I felt like I had them fight it because we made it matrices pull party and I just, you know, I feel like she went through something similar last year and I'm hoping she could shed some light about this. So Jackie just starts writing. She's like so I heard what happened with you in Margaret and Jen asked her she knew already and she's like well you know what I knew because March told me but I didn't say a word because honestly I don't want to hurt another woman like you did. Also I felt bad. Also a word that I would appreciate if you'd use correctly Shokurik. Could you try that?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Please try that. I was just catching up with Band of Pump rules and it was a travesty what was being said about that word. So then, so Jen was like, well if anyone can relate to you and Jackie goes, yeah, but you know what, the other thing was just a rumor and you said to me that you never believed it. No, I didn't believe it. I didn't believe it, Dad. So Jen is you never believed it. No, I didn't believe it. I didn't believe it. So, Jen is basically like she's like, I don't want to bring up what happened last year. I don't want to do anything that seems like I'm trying to hurt you or anything like that. So then we go. Right, of course, Jen doesn't want to bring up last year, right?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Because Jen was a monster. So she wants the new season reset. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and it's commercial. season reset. So then back with Margin Delores, Margin's like, Delores, this woman has attacked me for having an affair. She insulted my mother. She attacked my dear friend Jackie and then called your ex-franc and tried to shake him down thinking he knew something about the affair. Delores goes, I can't, it's not for me. It's like what I say about realings. I just can't, I can't anymore. I'm so then we see this clip of Franco.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Yeah, she's calling me saying you got pictures. I'm like, I don't got pictures. I don't even got pictures of my kids, all right? So then Margot tells us, you know, it's a lawyer and I have known for several months that Jennifer wasra tells us, you know, it's a lowest and I have known for several months that Jennifer was trying to get, you know, do it on Evan from Frank, but I never told Jackie because I know she just go crazy. And then I found out that he called a girlfriend and ten of lie. All right. Was anybody worried that we weren't going to mention ten of
Starting point is 00:58:20 life? Well, here it is. Ten of life. All right. And supposedly, they've tried to shake them down. And you know what? She said, I know he hadn't a fear. Who did he have an affair with? Do you have pictures? Okay. She's very into pictures this one. I looked at Tenefly.com and I couldn't find a single picture, even though everyone in Tenefly knows about it. everyone in ten of mine knows about it. No, she didn't. And what was she going to do with this information? Well, she wanted, you know, she wanted to see some stuff, you know, that's it. That's it. That's what she needs.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Well, that really bothers me. So back to the other. This episode really gets you because at first I'm like poor Jen and I'm like, oh, fucking Jen, you deserved it. I think you're allowed to actually feel both things and I'm going to allow myself to have both sympathy and frustration with her. So Jackie said, we're at the back of Jen's house. She got Jackie's like, so well, if we're really trying to be good with each other, I just want to know that there wouldn't be any more of the sneaky trying to destroy each other stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:31 What? I would never. What? Like she literally covers her chest like me? What? I would never. I just love the no more of that sneaking around trying to destroy each other thing. You know, you know, that thing we do sometimes. And Jackie's like, well, you know, I just wouldn't want to do that to another woman. Okay, I'm going to say that again until someone gets that you're not supposed to do that to another woman. Okay, Chakudari. And James, like, but Margaret did that to me. Is that okay? And I love see, I think one of my favorite aspects of Jackie is that she can have moments of extreme self possession. And she does this like every season. She has moments where she's completely unself-resessed.
Starting point is 01:00:09 But I really like that she was like, you know what, I actually don't have a problem with what Margaret did. And not just because she's my friend. You said to her a million times how awful she is for cheating on her husband. And then don't think that Margaret was wrong to come back at you. I don't think Jen was expecting that response. I know, Jen's like, well, Theresa thought she did something wrong. The law restarts.
Starting point is 01:00:29 She did something wrong. But did you do anything wrong? Like ever because, yeah, come on, Jen. And Jen's like, but she had my feelings. And Jackie's like, you heard each other. And I think you guys have the right to defend your position. Now, I think what Jackie's doing, and it really is cemented later in the episode,
Starting point is 01:00:47 is being nice to Jen and saying it's all forgiven and look how supportive I'm being of Jen so that she can have a bigger, oh my God, I've been beat raised by Jen. 100%. 100% and two seconds. That's exactly how you're supposed to do it. So Margaret's, we go back and Margaret goes,
Starting point is 01:01:05 said, do you think, okay, but it's wrong to Laura? And Laura goes, not now, not now. I did, I did. Not now, not now. It's like, when the railing salesman calls me, I go, not now, not now, no railings.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Frank, what's furniture first? I said, Frank, there is no furniture, Frank. Okay. So then Dolores tells us, you know, I wouldn't have done to Jennifer what Margaret did, but after finding out even more of the stuff she's done, you know what? Chowly it all up. There's some consequences to be paid for that. And then Dolores grabs Marge's knees and she's like, when you have that kind of fucking shit in your closet stay away from fucking Jackie
Starting point is 01:01:52 So they're like what can we just start over and Dolores is gonna have a housewarming party? And Marge is like this listen, I can coexist. Okay, you know, it's fun I can coexist Dolores is like buck and? Because I know she's a little shock Okay, she's like a dog listening to the doorbell and flying down five flights of stairs. Okay Don't worry everything's gonna be great. I mean, you'll put out a variety of Fakacha turtles and Fakacha alligators and everyone will be happy Back to Jenny and Jackie. I just didn't tell anybody about it.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I didn't tell my sister. I didn't tell my parents. Which is crazy. The sister doesn't know because the sister works at that office. I know. I mean, I hate to break it to Jennifer, but I'm not sure that these coping mechanisms are really I don't know if
Starting point is 01:02:46 This she's really dealt with this in a proper way. She's just like And Jackie's like you know what the kids that's why I really feel for you and Jackie's like, you know I went through this but at the end I got to go to my kids and say, listen, it's not true. But Jen has to tell her kids their daddy actually cheated. And then one of her kids will probably tell her, we know, Chacotterie. And I'm just going to feel terrible for her. Jackie's like little smile when she said, but you know what, at the end of the day, I could say it was all a lie. Like she's just like laughing. And then Jennifer's like little smile when she said, but you know what at the end of the day I could say it was all a lie like she's just like laughing and then Jennifer's like, he was a mask skeleton. It was for my husband that I kept the secret.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Jackie goes, well listen to him. I'm here for you as a mom. Okay. As a friend, not really. I mean, I will drink your weird plastic bottle of iced tea, but you know, don't count on me for that. But it's the mother. I'm here for you. I'm here. And Jen, she's just crying. She's like, I'm here for you, baby. So then now, wait, now it's time for Dolores's party. And there's like a staff in there setting up this crazy spread of like lots of fruits and focaccia animals. And Dolores goes, what do you need? Okay, go in my droids if you need anything.
Starting point is 01:04:13 And then like the lady who's working there's like, oh, can I go in your droids? Ha, ha, ha. So just to confirm, so this is her new townhouse that she's probably gonna be renting that they've just remodeled. It's not her house, right? Cause she says she still has her house.
Starting point is 01:04:30 But she doesn't remodel the townhouse, she's renting the townhouse while her house is being remodeled. Oh, okay, okay, I'm done. I don't know why I didn't put that together. I think because the kitchens are similar, they have like the same tile, but I was so excited to see cabinets.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I was like, oh my God. It's like, how am I gonna talk about that? She has cabinets. Is it because every house on this show has just like, great furniture with great floors, great accents and like, poofy, gray pillows? It's a gray, that's the way of the world right now, okay? You know, you've been to look at houses lately, everything is gray, everything is gray. I live in gray use personally.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I felt like I really won that race. I was like, guys, I didn't get gray. I got gray use. I'm in, I'm sort of like a light, light neutral space with some brown accents and since like natural, like brown and like some green greenery, that's my space that I'm living in. So Marge and Jo.
Starting point is 01:05:30 And she's like, Jo. That's great. So yeah, Marge, Marge, well, first before Marge comes in, there's just, we see all this like Vakacha everywhere. Everything is like on Vakacha or made of Vakacha. It's like, it's like these living Van Gogh immersion exhibits going around except for Vakacha. Alligator for Coaches, whatever. It's like a lobster in a shape of a Vakacha.
Starting point is 01:06:02 My kind of party all bread. So March is just like, look, everything looks to the leash. Okay, is everyone coming? Who's coming? Tell me who's coming. And then we see a clip of Jen on the phone and she's like, well, have a hesitation because of Marge, but she's trying to help my family,
Starting point is 01:06:20 but she's not gonna hurt my friendships. Yeah, yeah, she has to. She's not gonna hurt my friendships. Yeah, she has. She's not gonna hurt my friendships, and my friendship with you is a button, so I'm gonna come to support you. I like support. It's just like she's, it's like a fruit platter salad with Fakacha.
Starting point is 01:06:35 It's not that big of a deal. So Margaret's like, well, you know, we guess what? Jackie, Jackie met with Jennifer. Okay, here comes my flashback. Okay, so now it's a flashback of Jackie saying, so Jennifer called me and she's really sad about having to tell her kids, you know? Oh, why would she think of doing this
Starting point is 01:06:52 when she was doing all this behavior, everyone else? Okay, my flashback's not that exciting. I'm sorry everyone, we probably didn't have to talk about it. It's time I show the rug again. I just wanna make sure it's a good scene. So Mar just like, so, you know what, Jackie felt bad for her. Okay, you know what? And she said, even the Laura sings I might so go ahead to Laura's and it's like, listen, I told you I felt I felt bad for her until you
Starting point is 01:07:15 told me what she did. And then Tracy just kind of comes, you know, clomping up the stairs. It's like, oh, we have a fight. It's delivery. Oh gosh, no, this is actually just Tracy. Yeah, everything's like the popsicles are here. Oh, it's a lady. And she comes up and there are 10 stories. One of those where you come in the front
Starting point is 01:07:35 door, then you go upstairs and there's a little kitchen. Then you go up more stairs and there's a bathroom. Then you go up more stairs and there's a bed room. Then you go up more stairs. And Tracy goes, it's well to ring out. Thanks for being here at Tracy. So then my armpits Tracy, do they smell sweaty and Tracy's like, oh my God, let's both smell our armpits. So they do, they both smell their pits.
Starting point is 01:07:58 And Melissa, everybody starts arriving and Melissa's coming up the stairs like clomp, clomp, every time someone comes over and on the stairs Right on the wall on the stairs at probably elbow level is an air like a air conditioning vent. I was like this is just so this show Make sure the elbows are cold Yeah, and you know that there's like little crusty blood you know know, specks of blood, all that, where someone's coming up the stairs. Like, oh, what the fuck is going on? Just graces.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Right here. Graces on the grates, their elbows. So Melissa comes up and she has this like, you know, Melissa has this weird thing with the, the Laura's wish. Every time she walks into the Laura's home, she sort of asks a, like a needling question. And she's like, oh, is this another pair of yours? What is this?
Starting point is 01:08:48 This is me. He broke up. What's going on? Yeah, Kizzi. You can never forget that Dolores is team tree. And so Melissa and Dolores will never ever be on the same team, even though they make nice. Melissa's always making these shitty comments. Like she goes, you know what?
Starting point is 01:09:03 I want to grow up and be to Laura. So Mike, did you just call me old bitch? Did you just call me old? So she's like, Melissa, I'm enjoying myself here. That's what I'm going to say. So that's what you said. And then Caroline, the famous Caroline shows up. So, you know, it's like the, the friend, I always say this is like the friend of Olympics.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Whenever they have two different new friend of Olympics, whenever they have two different new friend of's, and they have to sort of like battle to see who's gonna be the one that gets to stay the longest. So it's between Caroline and Tracy right now. Although Tracy has gotten interviews, and she also is married to a celebrity. And Caroline is just like,
Starting point is 01:09:40 she's got like a car to John Butchus. Right, they're really we're trying with Caroline because Salores goes Oh, you remember Caroline right and then they showed like 10 little shots of Caroline at the party because I just get cutting to her at that party Yeah, they cut to like all these shots of Caroline be like oh, hi. How are you was like a Caroline greets people montage? Yeah, and Melissa I don't know every little comment she makes. I'm like, that was shitty, right? But she says everything was such a smile. She goes, oh, I'm like, is that Teresa? I couldn't tell.
Starting point is 01:10:12 You know, my mom would say about Melissa. My mom would say she's fresh. So Jackie is like, okay, so what you need to know, lady who said hello to literally everybody at the pool party. Jennings, Reese, not here because Theresa is always late. And Carol lines like, hey, do you want me to take off my shoes? And Laura's goes, no, you want a stepping dog shit? All right, come on, let's look at the house. You know, I know it's not that big of a house, but the first time I've been living by myself.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And you know what? It's freedom for me. Okay. That's what it is. I literally go around singing freedom by George Michael, both the WAM version and the 1990 version. That's just what life is for me. And there's some nosy with Dolores. I love it. Everybody automatically, everybody instantly starts in like, is this a lease? What is this? This is the least? Like listen, I own the home. I don't have a mortgage. That's why I can afford places like this, you know, but now I don't even want to go back to my home, you know, for one thing nobody has broken their neck yet here. So that's been nice. But what about David to save it mind? Well, does David mind me living on my own? I mean
Starting point is 01:11:26 Look, it's David. We still talk his boyfriend and girlfriend, but you know what? I haven't seen much of David recently. You know, there's no room from the park is Motorcycle in my living room. See all those days. It's very difficult. And Melissa just keeps giving everyone looks like And so Melissa says yeah, she tried to convince us they're great, but I, you know, I think that she wants more. Melissa's in a pink platter dress. I don't know why that needs to be said, but I was like, that's gross. That's kind of tacky.
Starting point is 01:12:00 She's probably got boobs, boobs, sweat, and see, I need one of those because the crap is next to next year you could just wipe it right off, you know, it's like anything you drip down there You could just wipe right off So Tracy asks so I mean if David wanted to take it to the next level tomorrow Would you do that and Dolores is like I'm not so sure to be honest because you know at the next level We still don't have railings up there. So it's very dangerous Dolores what about a man because you know, at the next level, we still don't have railings up there. So it's very dangerous. Back to my underwear. See, and you're in the meeting somebody, no? Dolores, what about a man?
Starting point is 01:12:28 Dolores, how are you living without a man? Tell us more. Tell us more. Where did you get the next level? It is. So then Mara, Mara goes, yeah, but what about it? If someone like Louie, like Louie,
Starting point is 01:12:41 so it's like the way that Louie swapped in with Teresa, what about, oh, speaking of Lou Louis, I love when people do that. What do they just say? Speaking of such and such when they've just brought up that topic as if it's like everyone's been talking about it. Yeah, speaking of, you know, but I think Teresa is still mad at me about the pool party. And then we see the video Teresa.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Louis should address the video there. That's it. I said, he's got to address it. He had him a microphone. All right. And Melissa says, you know, I don't think the video. There. That's it. I said, he's got to address it. Have them a microphone. All right. And Melissa says, you know, I don't think the video bothers her. I think what bothers him more is that other people think that he's not perfection. And then Dolores gives us her take of what the video is. She goes, you know what? In that video, there's like a bunch of naked man standing behind you.
Starting point is 01:13:20 They bond together like jerk offs. I didn't get it. I paid $12 to see this thing. And Tracy goes, but not addressing the elephant in the room. Does her no favors. Tracy, simmer, simmer. Some of the Tracy on simmer, okay. And Mark says, you know, you know, those retreats, you know what? They beat each other, wrapping those, and the worst goes,
Starting point is 01:13:44 I love it. I love it. I love it. No, you go there and they break you down. So you don't have all those hot-sup behavior towards the women and they go there and they take it out on each other and they learn how to behave and they break it down and you can't take it anymore and you apologize and somehow you're cheered. And you know what? You know how I know about that? Because I went on Google and Googled it, which is not to say middle wall, it's jetten calling people to get information on somebody's spouse.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Okay, it's totally different. Hi, hypocrisy. What was that noise that you just made? Hi hypocrisy. Oh, hello. Hi, hypocrisy. Although I have have to say Google is a little different. I mean, anybody who sees that video should have Googled it. I'm sad that we didn't Google it, but I didn't know that there was like a title to the
Starting point is 01:14:35 retreat. I thought it was just like, if you want to sob, but be around a bunch of other guys that look like Fred Flintstone without shirts come to us. I feel like when I hear the phrase mens retreat, I don't usually want to explore any further. It's usually something bad and something I don't want in my internet history and definitely not something that I want ads to be,
Starting point is 01:14:58 you know, catered around. The last thing I need to do is go to Louise mens retreat thing and then have for two months pop up ads that are like, so you wanna get help with your woman? Come to our retreats. Right, so March basically, I mean, you just said it all, but she basically just said that men who have, so they don't have hostile behavior towards their women,
Starting point is 01:15:22 go take it out on each other. And everyone's just looking at each other. And the list is like, I mean, and the Lord goes, listen, I'll take any apology. Okay. If they're happening, a bunch of jerk offs behind the apology, so be it. Can any of those jerk offs fix the sink? I'm in your tree works. Okay. any of those jerk offs fixes sink, I'm in your tree works. Okay. So, so now Jen is finally at the door and she's, she's coming in and upstairs, Jack is just telling, Marge is like, is it cool?
Starting point is 01:15:54 Like, are you gonna talk to her? You know, I'll talk with if she wants to talk, you know, and she's just so you know, my loyalty is to you. Okay, but she's in a vulnerable state. All right, so I'm just gonna like prop her up a little bit before I just destroy her again. All right. Yeah. Yeah, you know okay, but she's in a vulnerable state. All right, so I'm just gonna like prop her up a little bit before I just destroy her again. All right. Yeah, you know what, I feel bad.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Yeah, I feel bad for Jen. I really do. I feel very, very, very bad. Well, not for Jen, for whatever animal this is, it was turned into a queson. Whatever this thing is here. Okay. So Jen is coming in like super, look,
Starting point is 01:16:23 Jen is the victim here, but she really is playing it up right. She comes in and she's like, hi, I got you something. Wow, Dolores, I love your furniture. And look at everyone over there in the kitchen. They just look so cheery. I can't go in there. I can't go in.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I can't go in. And she does also like that little, like some like the little girl wave where she keeps, she stands. She just stands and she keeps her hands basically next to her hips and then she takes one hand and she waves from her hip very in a very small way like I'm scared to do more than this Mm-hmm She's very much those lady those movies where the lady can't go outside, you know, like the agoraphobia Like the Christians out there just came out the woman house across from the girl who looks out the window I was thinking more of what's eating Gilbert great, but that's yours is probably the better or the
Starting point is 01:17:17 Christine Lottie like the fear inside is that what it was called really any any movie with Christine Lottie She really like just has some good Christine Lottie energy coming into the scene. Yeah, Christine Lottie is like that's at this time she can't go outside. It's like the time when Christine Lottie, I'm a cat, believe it, I'm the bad son, baby. All right, so she can't walk into the kitchen. She gets that like, oh my god, a Christine LaDdie at the front entrance. You know, so she couldn't go into the kitchen. And then Jack is like, okay, everybody, look at me being friends with Jennifer. Okay, everybody stand in the kitchen with your backs to Jennifer. Well, I'm the only person nice to her.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Jen, hi, let's talk because you can't go in there yet. Now listen, I know what it's like to be face to face with the person who said something terrible about your husband. Okay, so let's talk about it. And of course they show a flashback of Teresa and Jackie last season. And Teresa being like, I got you a deal though. You can put it up your ass.
Starting point is 01:18:21 So then Jennifer sitting down being all dramatic. No, I can't. I don't want it. I'm bad. Okay. Oh God, baby. It's much in quivering. The have I gotten enough, gotten enough nerves back in my chin so you can see it quivering yet. Tracy, you just hear March go. What's happening? Why is she crying? Why is she crying over there? And Tracy goes, I think she feels insecure walking in. Wow, wow, power of observation, Tracy, you're really killing it. But also none of these ladies are nice at all, right?
Starting point is 01:18:53 No one's like, hi Jen. No, but I mean Jackie went up to her, but no one's like, oh, Jen's here. It's like she's two feet away from them. They're not like hi Jen. They just won't turn their backs in like a little circle and start talking to each other. Also, I just love that it's basically an open concept.
Starting point is 01:19:08 And like Jennifer can like get only so far in the open concept before she has to be like, I can't come any further. But I don't know why. I feel like it's like I'm usually people like, I can't go into that room or whatever, but she's like, I don't know, this is maybe not like an invisible fence, you know?
Starting point is 01:19:23 Yeah. Like, I'm like, at the stage, you can open shots, baby. So anyway, so she's sitting there and she's like, I don't know how to act. I don't know what to say, baby. And Jackie is like, you know what's hard and that's a cry when you're upset. Then Jennifer, I mean, so Dolores comes in and goes, Jennifer, listen to me. This isn't you and there's no reason to cry, okay? And you could have stepped in dog shit by now. Now that's the reason to cry. She goes, here's what? All right. She walks around so happy. She knocks this one. She knocks
Starting point is 01:19:54 that one. And guess what? If you're willing, living then that why you fall in the plot right now, right? So Jack is like, come on, Deloitte. It's very hard for her. She's like, I know, but you know what, Jen, you can hold yourself together. I mean, come on Delois it's very hard for her. She's like I know but you know what Jen you can hold yourself together. I mean come on. But I'm just a little of a world. I'm overwhelmed. I mean just the other day I say I fucks on the black lady. I'm overwhelmed by so much stuff. And so at this point I'm thinking these women are horrible right. They're kind of ignoring her when she comes in. Now she's crying and like they're gonna yell at her and be dex but then're kind of ignoring her when she comes in. Now she's crying and they're gonna yell at her and be dex But then I kind of warm to them because March is over and she's oh my god
Starting point is 01:20:31 What are you crying about did see this? I'm about okay listen. I don't want you crying Jennifer. Okay, so everybody leaves them kind of to talk amongst themselves And Jen's like but it's overwhelming and I don't want to fight with you and say listen. And I don't want to fight with you. And she's like, listen to me, I don't want to fight with you either. Jennifer, but listen, your behavior to me has been very hypocritical. And if you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you. Okay. And Jennifer goes, well, everything that I've critiqued you on, I've given my opinion on or whatever are things that you've been very vocal about. And when you say things, people love opinions, baby, which is one of the reasons why I never say,
Starting point is 01:21:06 I think about my husband's affair, which is actually sort of a fair point, you know? I'm gonna show out a real disabled. Right, like you put it on the table so I was allowed to say something about it, but I didn't put this on the table, so you're not allowed to. I mean, I get the logic,
Starting point is 01:21:21 but not the way that Jen goes with having. Like, you know what I'm saying? And also, I don't think Jen follows that logic I think if we go back we find that Jen does not follow that logic at all Right. And so she's like, you were mean to me. And Marjord is like, I wasn't mean. All right, you pushed it. All right. Like, look, even what you did to Jackie. I mean, Jennifer, you called Frank for pictures. You called people in 10 of fly. She said, no, no, I didn't. She was out. Yeah. Yes, you did.
Starting point is 01:21:44 You tried to dig stuff up on check. Okay, are you telling me you didn't call people in ten of fly? Do you want me to call ten of fly, but I'm on the Facebook. Do you want me to get on the ten of fly, Facebook? Hey, let's focus Serena. How all this focus Serena? She's the only person I want. I want to tell Jackie that she's only one person. Serena. You called Serena Williams. Doesn't she have enough on her plate already? No, Serena from You called Serena Williams, doesn't she have enough on her plate already? No, Serena from Tana Fly. Okay, that makes a lot more sense.
Starting point is 01:22:08 I should have thought of Serena first. Tana Fly, Serena. Oh, but me, here I am standing right here, because I just happen to hear you say Serena. So I just, because she's been, Jackie has been in the kitchen going, listen everybody, I'm just being a good friend to Jennifer right now. She really needs a friend. I just don't want to do something bad to another woman and then she's immediately like I heard Serena
Starting point is 01:22:27 go ahead go ahead Jack I wanted to speak to you Jack I spoke to Serena because I was being listen I was being noisy truth be told okay my friend did dinner with Bill and I never said I was the best mother in the world But give me a little credit for trying, okay? I got Serena. I got Serena. Tana fly. I did it. I did it Missed it. I don't regret it for a second. I'm Jennifer Telsus. Frank told my husband that he knew the girl Well, he knew what the girls look like and I already got Frank on the phone about a short property And I thought why not be nosy? the girls are playing and I already got Frank on the phone about a short property and that
Starting point is 01:23:05 one that'd be nosy. Like that is the most juricy sentence ever. I had him on the phone with a short property. Why not being nosy rap squeaky wheel? Get the all right baby. So you heard something. I said, what you hear? What you hear?
Starting point is 01:23:21 Do tell baby. Which honestly, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I wanna take their moral high ground and be like, that's see, that's wrong. You shouldn't be asking, but the truth is, if you're on with Frank Catania and Frank has bragged to your husband, and he's like, yeah, I think the pictures of it, the lures.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Then, yeah, I think I, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I probably would have been like, so what's the deal with this lady? He said he saw pictures of it. I would have asked, I'm not gonna lie. Well, the have been like, so what's the deal with this lady? He said he saw pictures of it. I would have asked, not gonna lie. Well, the thing, I mean, I think everybody would, honestly, everybody's nosy, right? But I think the thing here also to note
Starting point is 01:23:54 is that Bill is such a little gossipy asked here for going home and being like, well, guess what Frank said. Frank said that the fair is true. And he's got pictures of the girl. I was like, Oh, oh, poor victim bill. Who doesn't like his stuff being brought up on TV. Oh, came on a tattletail to Jen who he knows is going to go bullhorn it everywhere.
Starting point is 01:24:16 You know, you're right. Yes, exactly. So Jackie's like, I don't want to hear it. And Melissa's like, what's going on? What's going on? And I was just saying, know about Jackie's husband fucking people if the jam shit oh my god here we go you know what I don't want to bring my husband's name anymore okay now when's gonna get shit on my husband
Starting point is 01:24:34 because it's nothing on my husband do we all understand this I was just asked because I was curious and curiously killed the cat baby kitty kitty now okay Jennifer enough of your mob wife I was just asked because I was curious. And curiously killed the cat, baby. Kitty, kitty, meow. Okay, Jennifer, enough of your mob wife, monologues. Okay, we have enough going on over here. Sorry, baby. And Tracy is just tilting her head like a news person.
Starting point is 01:24:55 She's like, I'm listening. I'm listening, guys. And Jackie's like, but Jennifer, you looked into my husband when your husband did stuff. So stop acting like a victim. She's like, but it was curiosity, baby. It's in the nature.
Starting point is 01:25:10 We got a commercial and we come back. It's like, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Delores is rental townhouse. I mean, on the housewives, how rude. They don't do that. They have to say that. They could just say the Laura's the townhouse So she's like I wasn't digging it lowers because Jen
Starting point is 01:25:29 That's curiosity. It's your nature. I mean Jen she always sounds like she's tied to a chair with ropes On the train tracks, you know, and there's someone there just like twirling is mustache. I don't know anything. I don't know Okay, fat. I'll talk. I'll tell you everything. I said everything you need to know. I wasn't there. Oh, I know it's that all I know is that serena serena saw it all Okay, I'll talk tomorrow. Okay. So it was serena serena and Lily serena Lily. I saw everything that's all I know I swear Okay, it was serena. It was Lily and it was Peter Like you can't even play a board game with Jen, because she's like, roll the dice. All right, that's it. How did it miscalate the ballroom with the candlestick? Like, Jen, Jesus. Come on.
Starting point is 01:26:16 You definitely can't play Sari with her. I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry at all. I'm not movies. No, Jen, it's the name of the game. Oh, so, Jack, it's a come on, Jen. you comment on other people's marriages when something happened in your marriage because Ten years ago Merge says you judge me on crap that happened 30 years ago So Jen's like what you did was mean if I did nothing to you It was my children."
Starting point is 01:26:45 And then she starts doing the cry thing, which I think, look, everybody feels bad that your children are gonna have to go through this. I don't think that there's anybody who's watching this thinking, oh my God, fuck those kids. Like, it sucks. Like, it sucks, but at the same time, having all of this Jennifer stuff come out at the same time,
Starting point is 01:27:02 and then Jen tries to break into the cry. It's like, no, it worked already. It's not going to work right now. And Marge goes, you know what? Your children, you have countless people, Jen. Countless. Yeah. And Jen's like, but you hit the low, the belt.
Starting point is 01:27:16 And then Marge goes, you know what? Kids are resilient. You're going to therapy. You'll work it out. Just like no, you're not allowed to use this argument on me when you decided to go onto the real housewives of New Jersey with a skeleton in your closet. It just cracked me up because usually on housewives, if you are the biggest victim and you start crying, everybody else kind of has to back down and they're refusing to.
Starting point is 01:27:41 They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're dad, you're done your mom, that's not trauma in Jersey. Okay, that's right, a passage. Okay, congratulations. They basically have Jersey Bar mitzvahs. And they also came into the season ready to go at Jen for that nasty Instagram post that was retaliation to Melissa's less nasty Instagram post, right? So they're like, no, no, you don't get to come in here and be the ultimate victim in episode one and two.
Starting point is 01:28:22 So then Tracy tells us, you know, I've been friends with Melissa for a long time, and it's really hard not to take sides, but it is baffling to me that Melissa and Margaret can't see why Jen is falling apart. Oh my God, the hypocrisy with this one too. Yeah. Oh, Tracy, why don't you go, you know, have a nice hug with Tiki Barber's X. How about that? Yeah, Google yourself, Tracy. So Delores goes, Jennifer, don't cry.
Starting point is 01:28:53 There's no reason to. She goes, you think I'm weak for crying? I'm not weak for crying. I breathe for crying. You have kids. All things aside, you have kids. And Margaret goes, you know what? Forget it.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Forget it. Okay, you know, everyone's too emotional for this conversation. Listen, let's talk about the people rug I saw at the store. It was hideous. The most disgusting thing I ever saw. I'm going to put the novel every single floor in my house, every single floor. I love the, I'm weak for crying. No one said you're weak for crying. They're just saying stop crying, but she's got this model
Starting point is 01:29:20 all ready to go. So Marge is like, you know, forget it. And for Lursus, let's just take a break from this. We've got a lot of armadillo asked you. Okay. We have a, we have an ocopi made of Focaccia in there that we have to get going on. Okay. So Jennifer's soap is the Teresa was not there to defend her during this. I want, hi, hi, please, please, please, please, please. Jennifer's so pissed that Teresa was not there to defend her during this.
Starting point is 01:29:48 You know she was so pissed. So Teresa shows up and Dolores tells Teresa all the stuff is happening. And she tells Teresa that Jen was digging up stuff on Jackie and all that Teresa cares about. It's how this relates to her. So she's like, but don't you think that Margaret was wrong? Don't you think how she did it was wrong?
Starting point is 01:30:09 Yeah, it's crossing the line. And Caroline, back, we're cutting back for it. Caroline for a moment. It's a big moment for Caroline. Jen, hi. Also Jen, you okay? How you doing, Jen? How you doing?
Starting point is 01:30:27 All right, that's a wrap on Caroline. Caroline, you're good to go. Thank you for being part of this shoot today. You can head off now. We got another hello. How you doing from Caroline and seeing? That's rapture. Caroline is wrapped. Caroline is wrapped.
Starting point is 01:30:40 So Jen is like, truth betteles, truth betteles, Caroline. I'm struggling. The Jack is like, truth betal, truth betal, truth betal, Caroline, I'm struggling. So, Jack is like, listen, I want you to feel supported right now, but you need to recognize your part. I'm sorry! I know you are. I know you are. I hate seeing another woman going through pain. You know what? And it actually feels good to me, even if you did, you know, look that there was nothing there.
Starting point is 01:31:03 You know, you, when you looked into my husband's cheating There was no evidence because it didn't happen as opposed to your husband Did she so tree says like can I say one thing? Why was I such a bad person when I told you guys is a rumor But then you came to my party the last It's like, uh, so Jackie goes, well, because, um, you know, she went right to Jennifer and you didn't come to me, which is kind of a solid point, actually, which I had never thought of myself. I mean, it's still, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Well, I, it's a, it's a totally different situation. I'm sorry. It's a different situation. Teresa was going around with a smile on her face to literally anyone. Like did you hear Evan hoax up at the gyms? Is yeah, he keeps, yeah, he has sex with other people like everyone. She was out there to spread gossip. She was not being a girls girl and she goes, but come on. Would you want me to ruin your party? I mean, you did.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Did. Yeah. Listen, we're not going back there. Evan has never cheated. He's not going to cheat. He doesn't even go to the gym anymore. He has a timeaster now. We're not going back there.
Starting point is 01:32:14 And it's like, yeah, but I got cool stuff. I did it. It's a big gorgor line, big in her family. I got a great reason for this. So then Jackie is like, still to this day Teresa does not feel like she did anything wrong. So Teresa goes, all that we're trying to do with me, a girl's girl. You know what Teresa, it's logical. It's logical.
Starting point is 01:32:39 But you know, but what do I say? And the Lord just laughs. So Marge is like, you know what? She doesn't even care what I did to Jennifer She just cares. I look Marjus shitty too. You know what? Guess what? It's not the same to Lisa and she tells her Jennifer has chastised me and judged me for certain things that have been going on in her own back Yacht I slip and slide so soon me. I love my children I slip and slide so soon. I love my children Yeah, I mean did you know that like Jennifer has like a bunch of soda bottles that bring her things so like give her a break
Starting point is 01:33:21 So don't think I gotta go I'm very angry and I'm very It's just like cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp, cromp the ship of her own. And Dolores goes, but now she has to face something that she put down under the rug. Rugs are making it come back by the way. Okay, Rugs are making it come back. And that brings us to the end of Real Housewives of New Jersey. It's so good. The next episode, we're going to record live in Los Angeles next week. There are still some tickets left for that. So definitely come get those. That's gonna be a really fun show if you're in LA. But for those of you who aren't able to make it,
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