Watch What Crappens - #199: For Crying Out Loud Stefanie Wilder Taylor!

Episode Date: July 2, 2015

Ronnie Karam (TrashTalkTV) is still without Ben Mandelker (bsideblog, Banter Blender) today, but don?t fear! Comic/Author Stefanie Wilder Taylor is here from the For Crying Out Loud Podcast! We talk crap for two hours long about the Real Housewives of New York and Secrets and Wives. Come on in, enjoy, and be sure to follow Stef on Twitter, @SWilderTaylor and check out her podcast For Crying Out Loud and read her books on Amazon! Subscribe at http://www.patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens for bonus episodes, ringtones, and live group video chat parties. Ronnie on the Web: http://www.trashtalktv.com Ronnie on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/trashtalkteevee Ronnie on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/trashtalktv Ronnie on Tumblr: http://trashtalktvrecaps.tumblr.com/ Ben on the Web: http://www.bsideblog.com Ben on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bsideblog Ben on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/bsideblog Our Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/watch-what-crappens On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/watch-what-crappens/id498130432?mt=2 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/watchwhatcrappens See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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or subscribe for bonus episodes, ringtones, and Google Hangouts every month, please visit patreon.com slash watchwhatcrappens. That's patreon.com slash watchwhatcrapp. That's patreon.com slash watch what crap ends. Now on with the show. Hey everybody, welcome to the Watch What Crap Ends podcast. I'm Ronnie Karam from Trash Talk TV, and Ben is still out of town. Don't worry, he comes back next week. Don't send me hate tweets. Today, I'm with special beautiful guest Stephanie Wilde Taylor from the For Crying Out Loud podcast. Duh, I know her real name is Stephanie Wilder Taylor. Okay, that's just how I said it because I'm dumb. So find her on Twitter at Stephanie Wilder Taylor or her podcast at Ace Moms.

Okay, bye. End of show note. Hi, Ronnie. Welcome, Stephanie. I hope I live up to Ben's high standards. The standard he's set. Ben already knows he loves you. We've already listened to you. So we love your podcast for crying out loud.

And thank you so much for all you guys have done for us. Mentioning us on your show and having us on and stuff has really helped us with our show. So thank you. It's such a small community, even though it's a big community. And, you know, the podcast listeners are so loyal. And so one of our listeners, because we love to talk about Real Housewives,

told us about you guys. And I don't even listen to a lot of podcasts, but I put it on and I was hooked from episode one. And then, yeah, we started talking about it. Plugging you guys. I probably bring you up every week. I'm a super fan love it thank you i'm so glad you got to come on ours it was really fun going on yours we went on yours and we were like whoa there was a real studio not for me that's that's all lynette and that's all the adam carolla business love it you guys had

like people working for you have like a guy a producer and a sound person i mean what the hell i i know it's kind of big time but um i'm used to it you know i'm like a big uh a biggie big a big mucky muck i was so mad next time I was doing it in my dirty kitchen with like empty Starbucks cups everywhere. It's easier this way, though. You don't really need a studio. That's the secret. Yeah, I think that if I, if we're doing it a lot more now. So if I was doing this every day and I had to go to a studio, I wouldn't like it.

But I love the once a month going to a studio and we got to see Burbank. Yeah, it's nice. I mean, it's nice when i'm with lynette we can you know we haven't seen each other all week and then we sit down and our podcast is a little different we're kind of just shooting the shit from what happened that week so but i think if you're doing this and you have like topics to talk about it's just as fine doing it from your house heck yeah you know what each other looks like yeah we don't need to look at each other and we go out a lot to get you know we're friends in real life too and it's funny when we're really out because we have to kind of stop ourselves from talking about this stuff or we waste it and then we talk about real life but it's just not as fun. Yeah, you're right.

See, Lynette and I, it's good. Lynette and I are not really close friends in life. I mean, I like her just fine, and she likes me, but we don't hang out, so therefore when we see each other, all of our stories are new. Yeah, well, that's cool. Well, when we were on your show, you guys had just, I think the show before us, episode before us was a Brandy Glanville interview yes which was so funny because so Lynette went on Brandy's show having I didn't

even I mean I knew that was going to happen but I was not included it had nothing to do with me it was just you know having Lynette on um did you feel like you were left out of the box you know a little bit but the funny thing is is that I spend a lot of time trash talking Brandy and had for a long time for a couple years just been like oh I can't stand her she's just such a mean girl and um so it was then I was like oh I can't wait to hear the gossip from Lynette. But then Lynette said Brandy was going to be on our show. And I was like, oh, shit. I mean, I'm going to have to be nice. I mean, Lynette went on her show, so now they're kind of friends.

So she's going to come out. So I can't be like, what's your deal? Yeah. I had to just sit and smile. And she's actually really nice in real life, right? She was very, very nice and engaging. Yeah. I mean, I've met her a couple times just quickly, and she was super nice.

I mean, she's very nice. The thing is, you know, she's just an a-hole on the show. And she talks like that, I think, in real life where she'll say whatever she wants. But it's funny in real life. I love that in real life. where she'll say whatever she wants, but it's funny in real life. I love that in real life. I know, but there's a part of you that can't help but think there has to be some truth to this is her personality.

I mean, she does not get along with people. So, yes, I'm sure she amps it up for the show, but even sitting there with her, I'm like, I can't imagine being friends with her in life. I mean, she's a train wreck. Yeah. Well, I'm friends with a lot of train wrecks. I mean, that's one of the things when you start aging in L.A.

And you're, I mean, really anywhere past 30 and you're not married and you don't have that kind of home life. And you just start kind of picking up all the train wrecks around you and you become a big train wreck game. Because, I mean, who else are you going to hang out with? Like, that's it. Yeah, yeah. The train wreck Peter Pan's of Los Angeles with Ronnie Cara. You know, I'm a train wreck on the inside. I'm a train wreck everywhere.

I mean, I'm a train wreck. I've just learned to accept myself because this is the first place I've ever really been able to go where I can say whatever the hell I want and people actually like it. I can't do that in real life. People avoid me like hell in real life. So I love doing this. I would love to talk shit with Brandy actually. I would love to talk shit with Brandy actually.

I would love to talk to her. Yeah and she'll go there with whoever. She was a fun guest to have on the show. I just felt like I couldn't. I think some of our listeners from my podcast, their comments were like, how come you didn't say anything? How come you didn't call her out on some of the stuff? But it's like you have to be there in the situation, as you know. You're not going to just start going like, why are you such an asshole on your show?

Like, who am I? Because they're a guest in your house. I mean, we had that when we interviewed jill zarin because matt loves her so he that's our uh old right third co-host he loves her and he was like we we just had a discussion before we talked to her and ben kind of likes her still or at the time liked her still and i've never i didn't and matt i don't know how he really felt. But when she came on, we'd have this discussion like, okay, no kissing her butt. And then she came on and Matt was like,

we miss you, how's your dog? Because he's, you know, he knows how to be nice. He works for Yahoo TV. So the first whole part of it was just her. And I think she was nervous too, because she knew that we talked shit. And so she just was like, oh, my dog. You know, she talked about her dog and her daughter. And I couldn't just say, shut up, you know, because she's our guest.

You can't do that. You wait until they leave. Exactly. So I need more practice so I can, like, get my point across. I mean, I did get my point across in a nice way, I think. But I don't know. I need to learn how to do that interview thing better. Where you're not just saying, fuck off, but still getting good info. Because Brandy, I would talk about her stuff and probably laugh. The problem with her that I had was that she was just making stuff up for the show.

And that's boring to watch. I agree. I agree. It's like fighting about just making stuff up for the show. And that's boring to watch. I agree. I agree. It's like fighting about dish towels or whatever for a season, which they will do on those shows. Well, there is something to that, like trying to drum up these storylines. And it gets, as Lynette always says, very cooked. Yeah. And when you start seeing that stuff, like the worst to me was that scene with Carol in New York running for like the board of her co-op.

I mean, it was like, is this a sketch on SNL? What's happening? Pretty much. She got poster board and like put glitter on it with her name. Right, but it was such a – I could just picture her with the executives going, this is going to be hilarious, you guys. Okay, I'm going to run for you guys okay i'm gonna run for you know what i mean like as if she was pitching the storyline and then they're like okay great yeah that was pretty ridiculous um but we'll get to that in one second young lady oh i think we're

already done with all of our stuff what other gossip did we oh i did want to say about that with when you guys were talking to her lynette was so funny because of course we had to ask you guys about it and we're like what a bitch what'd you say to her did you call her a bitch you know and lynette's like no i liked her you know she's really nice oh yeah and uh i thought that was so funny and my only question was you don't watch these shows, do you? And she's like, no. See, she used to. That was the whole thing is she used to. And we would talk about it a lot. And then a lot of our listeners, it's very polarizing, the Real Housewives talk. Oh, yeah.

Because I'm very focused on it. That's my one and only hobby. And Lynette for a while was too. So we would always catch up on our Real Housewives. And then, I don't know, she suddenly like kind of lost interest. But, you know, or she'll just watch the reunion. It must make her crazy to talk about it with you. Well, so we don't really talk about it that much anymore.

But then we had you guys on. I mean, she's up on it. But, yeah, but she's, you know. And then when she was talking about hating Lisa Vanderpump, that was kind of funny too. Yeah, I was like, you obviously are not watching this show. If your least favorite is Lisa and your favorite is Brandy, you're definitely someone who knows Brandy and hasn't been watching it. I actually really like Lynette, and I would love to hear her take on it because she's very funny and her point of view is so different than

I expected. Yeah, well, you know, she relates to the ladies a little bit more than I do. That's the kind of funny thing. Yeah, she could actually do the show. She could do the show. I was praying for her to get picked to do it. She went on like a casting call for it. Oh, she did? Or she had to send in pictures of her house.

Yeah, somebody recommended her for the show. She would have been great. Oh, yeah, she would be really good on it. She probably would maybe be shy at first and then warm up. And then by second season, she'd be kicking everybody's ass on that show. Yeah. I mean, the only thing is that she's not, even though she's married to a celebrity, she's not stuck up that.

I mean, she has a nanny, but she doesn't use her nanny. She parents her own kids. She'd be more of the brandy, know the kind of scrappy like yeah the one who will tell it like it is yeah and who knows how well that will play she certainly wouldn't be i can't picture lynette being invited over to the vanderpumps for you know for cordials brandy did really really well until she just went off the rails. The first season she had everybody behind her because the Richard sisters were mean to her. Really.

I mean, they really were mean to her. Right. And so then Lisa took her under her wing and everybody loved her. And then she just turned on Lisa for no reason. And that's when it gets bad because it's like you're being nice to a lady who basically kept you on the show and helped make you a star. And like you're biting the hand that feeds you, darling. You know, Chef Penny doesn't kept you on the show and helped make you a star and like you're biting the hand that feeds you darling you know chef penny doesn't have hands on the menu i'm predicting this

by the way for dorinda i'm oh yeah now i know you love her ronnie but um oh i do yeah i just i think she's gonna go that direction well we've always said that you know the first season they're nice and then you see their true colors the second season hers are already popping out so let's just move over to Real Housewives of New York since that is what we're discussing today and the first line I wrote in my note taking was I'm really starting to dislike Dorinda by the way uh it's funny you say that because uh I was just uh messing I'm saying uh like i'm running for president by the way i can't stop saying like or uh but i was just talking to a friend and she was saying i hate dorinda blah why is why are people already turning on dorinda what the hell what am i missing

i just think i i find her to bey, but trying to pretend to be nice. I just think that there's just this fake quality about her that reads right away. Yeah, that's pretty much what my friend said, too. I'm still loving her, and I actually loved this one because we got to see her have a fit. And then we saw the previews for next week, and she goes off next week drunk so i can't wait but she's she's starting to be no different though than the other ones she's just conniving it happens it happens right away in this episode and i think it comes off so bad for her when she's talking to sonia yeah oh yeah all right well let's start at the beginning because it it starts with sonia and luann uh the first it didn't start with this but the housewife opening i notice new things every

week and this week i noticed that in the opening luann and sonia are both shown wearing their own lines and i noticed that too i had never noticed that before yeah luanne wears that one shirt that she does with the kind of jeweled collar she wears it for all her um interviews oh and she's also wearing one of those summer dress it looks like mervyn's like she looks like the mervyn's uh summer wear section and sonia looks like the mervyn's uh child formal wear part where you have to get kids things to be baptized in. Yeah. And Dorinda is like Chico's. Dorinda is Chico's.

You see towards the end of this episode, she's wearing this like shirt with all the like that has like glued on necklaces. I used to have a gander named Chico. I'm wearing him now. I love just patterns. Yeah. Dorinda just patterns. Yeah. Dorinda. Okay. So how does this open?

C&H. Carol and Heather's shoe collection. Blah. Who cares? I have the Bethany and Ramona. Doesn't it start with Bethany and Ramona? Yeah. It starts with Bethany and Ramona.

Ramona's like, that was crazy last night. What was going on last night during dinner? That was the craziest thing. It was so stressed out. I was stressed. it reminded me of being at home with my father i was stressed i wanted to run and then they're talking about sonia and bethany says very clearly like i mean who am i to say you're she's an alcoholic i'm not i'm not a doctor i can't say she's an alcoholic i'm not gonna use the word alcoholic i mean i'm not a doctor how can i i can't diagnose yeah beth Bethany. And Ramona.

Well, you know, she is. She's got a problem. Someone needs to talk to her. Ramona says, I mean, I'm sorry, but she's self-medicating. And then Bethany is like, yeah, I mean, she's self-medicating, but I get it. I mean, look at my life. I mean, I mean, I understand self-medicating. Yeah, we all self-medicate.

We all do it. I mean, it's not a problem. It's just, well, she is though. Someone needs to talk to her. And then it turns into Ramona being the biggest shitster of all time. The worst she's almost ever been. And it was amazing because I guess these shows, you get to know them and you start liking people that you would never like before.

I've always hated Ramona. She's annoyed the hell out of me. But the past couple of years, I love it. And I love it because I'm loving how the other cast is just calling her out now. And they've all accepted that she's an emotional five-year-old. And they constantly make fun of her for it. They know she's going to lie.

They know she's going to start crap. And then they know she's going to kiss their butts after. They treat her like she's a puppy. Like she's naughty. But like, what are you going to do? It's a puppy. Yeah, she chewed up my boot. But you know, she's a puppy.

What are you going to do? Throw her out? Exactly. She chewed up my boot, but she didn't shit on the floor today. So let's pat her on the head and move on. Exactly. They think it's almost funny now. But I can't imagine. If I was Bethany, I would be so pissed.

Because it was really obvious that bethany did not say she's an alcoholic bethany literally said i can't i wouldn't say that who am i to say that and ramona basically is the one who said it and then ramona is like well well uh bethany said you're an alcoholic yeah and straight out yep and then they start talking ramona and bethany start talking about their loneliness and blah out yep and then they start talking ramona and bethany start talking about their loneliness and blah blah blah and then everything turns into ramona turning it around to herself in this episode which is so funny they could have been talking about i don't know massacre in sudan or something and she'd be like oh i understand i understand what it's like because

i used to go to mass with mario and then look that. They might as well have blown up the church. I understand what those people are going through. That's how I feel. Shot in the head every day. Mario massacred my heart. Exactly. I'm with him a quarter of a century. I mean, he massacred my heart.

I need the country to send me some aid. I mean, I understand that some lives were lost In that massacre but my love life Was lost it was massacred what about me Yeah well all Sonya Needs is a relationship because She just needs you know a happy relationship With somebody because when you have a happy Relationship with somebody you're happy

And you share things and you have sex With them Mario I miss Mario That's how we were Shut up I can't and Bethany's sitting there like she just she's getting divorced too but she has to take that go well i guess you know i mean she's been with the guy a long time i gotta lie you know i've got i've got a letter let her have her her grieving i mean i understand uh-huh but wasn't didn't every single one of them know that mario was cheating on her yeah well that trip to morocco that they took two years ago they went and saw the psychic lady who

was reading their cards and the psychic told them the psychic was like oh your husband's cheating with some young blonde person or whatever and ramona had a fit and all the talk at that time like luanne was saying oh, everybody knows it's true. Right. I guess he's been doing it for a long time. I have a feeling she was just turning her head or turning the other cheek or turning the other butt cheek or whatever and pretending it wasn't happening until he actually was making out with this young girl in public and getting on page six and stuff. That's when the marriage really started to go south. There's this part, I'm trying to see if it was later or earlier.

I mean, she talks about Mario through the whole thing. But there's this part where she's talking about Mario and it's obvious that she's she it's just about her you know when she's talking about like how her relationship with mario nothing is about how great mario was it's all about like oh he made me feel so good yeah and we looked so beautiful together i mean he was so focused on me he just he loved me so much i couldn't even i mean mario i wouldn't be who I am today without Mario. I really wanted Bethany to scream, where are you? Because I was kind of thinking that. What did he do? You have not won, you know, an Oscar, lady.

I wouldn't be who I am today. I wouldn't be where I am. I wouldn't be so successful. But Mario was there. He got my dry cleaning. He helped me, you you know cut the labels off of people's dresses i stole maria was very helpful like can you name one thing that wasn't on his chore list that you miss you know that's what that's what i'm saying it's so narcissistic

it's towards the end of the episode so we're just jumping around but you you know the part where they're talking about um heather saying that like you know you have to let the guy be strong or she's not saying that she's saying you have to let the guy be strong or she's not saying that she's saying you know they're talking about what the women are telling heather that she's too strong she needs to make her husband feel important and then ramona is talking about mario like well i don't really go out of my way for him but he allowed me to be me yeah and then jorinda says they truly they truly were an Upper East Side beautiful couple. I just wanted to puke.

What does that even mean? Everybody on the East Side, they were the couple. They went to parties. They were always the first on the dance floor. They went to church. You'd see them at church. You'd see them in Central Park walking. You'd see them buying jewelry together. You know, things we do on the Upper East Side.

These people think that there's no other world other than their little bubble they do that on secrets and wives too they're like the north shore we do things different here our kids go to camp oh my god there's a good one this week of that when i get to when i look at my notes there's another oh that's what we do on the north shore it the two shows are so parallel they are um and they also fit the stereotypes so well you know the upper east side will always be looking down on secrets and wives secret wives is always going to be further away harder to get to harder to understand secrets and wives is almost like a parody show of real housewives of new york it is. Mike Myers is playing all the characters on that show.

It's true. Did you notice how in Secrets and Wives this week, there's a runway thing and we're harkening back to Ramona. Remember the crazy Ramona bug-eyed catwalk? Uh-huh. That crazy-eyed Ramona walk. I'll never forget that. Oh, my God. That crazy-eyed Ramona walk, I'll never forget that. Oh, my God.

That was so genius. I mean, we rewound that so many times to laugh. Yeah, some people are going to see their lives flash before their eyes when they die. I'm going to see Ramona doing that walk. That's going to be the last thing I see before I meet Jesus. See, this is the thing I love about Ramona. She really hasn't changed. She's just so self-important, so narcissistic, turns every conversation about herself.

Everything she does is manipulating, like, people to think more and focus more on her. Mm-hmm. But she's so transparent that it makes it fun, for me at least. But that part that you just brought up where she's saying, oh, yeah, she's strong-headed. Women don't need a strong man. I mean, look at Mario. I'm very strong, and I'm on a TV show. Look at everything I have.

Look at everything I've done in my life. And Mario, you know, they're like babies. You got to make sure their butts move for them. You got to make sure they get their food out of your boobs. And then they're done. That's it. You know, just make sure you change them, and that's it. That's all you got to do, Heather.

I don't know what's wrong with you. It's mario's gone so let's stop giving heather and heather's still married by the way yeah he's giving her heather marital advice and that conversation was also really good because heather's like well yeah we're strong but jonathan is strong too it's just so passionate it's like that is the if that is a passionate relationship that shit is very very well hidden oh my god heather's hey mamas were on point this episode did you notice that mamas why are we fighting mamas come here let's talk about this she even did a thing when somebody said stop treating me like a baby and she or stop treating me like a baby. Or stop treating me like a baby. Something like that.

And she's like, if you want to stop being treated like a baby, stop acting like a baby, mamas. It's like, oh, no. And then she called Ramona's. She said something about smacking Ramona's tushy. I almost died. That is not sexy. She's like, I'm just fine here without Jonathan. As she mashes up food for Luann sitting next to her.

So back to where we were. Let me see here. I wrote a lot during this Bethany and Ramona thing. I don't know why. Okay, so then we go into. Oh, because they were talking about dating. So then Ramona cries ugly, ugly tears. So then Ramona cries ugly, ugly tears that you and Amy were laughing about the way she cries, which is hilarious.

You and Amy talked about this a little bit, which was already, which is her crying. You said she cries like other like people that don't sneeze right. She does. It's an internal sneeze thing she does. She's like. And then nothing really comes out of her eyes. And she squeezes her eyes way too hard. Like she's having kind of a seizure. Yes.

Yes. Like Bethany needed to revive her. And then Bethany's just. I was actually. I've been hating Bethany this season. That's no secret. I've been saying that. But I wasn't minding Bethany in this episode.

Bethany took some time to warm up or i maybe it's just me but i took time to warm up to her and i'm loving her again i'm back on total team bethany because you know i'll change that shit every week i don't care i have no loyalty i'm changing it i'm changed for this week too i was bethany was actually the grounding character for this episode yeah Yeah, there have been a few of them. I started actually liking her more in the episode where she met the father, even though that was, I thought it was terrible that she brought this man on national TV. And she's like, oh yeah, you know, why would I be upset? Just because you beat my mother in the head with my Hello Kitty phone and then beat her in front of me and then, but you know, and then you almost beat me when I was 19.

I mean, who cares? Drugs, alcohol, rape. I'm like, Jesus Christ. I think you skirted over the fact, though, that she basically told him. She tells her dad. Yeah. I mean, I can't have sex because of you. Basically, she told her dad that she's frigid now because she's so traumatized by her childhood.

Oh, my God. I didn't even realize that. I thought she was saying, like, I can't have sex because, you know, Crowley got behind a racetrack. You had to do everything so fast. It was a huge race. I can't find one man that will last longer than five seconds. It takes me like an hour to defrost.

Thanks a lot. Exactly. Well, she was basically saying that she has horrible intimacy issues because of, like, the way her dad treated her mom. Yeah. Well, that works that works but you know i don't know i feel like they're she's gone through way more trauma than i have so please forgive what i'm about to say because i know i'm about to piss people off but i don't care what happened when you were a baby at some point you have to

acknowledge like if if your sexual problems are from that you've been going to therapy for years get that shit under wraps girl get it taken care of she's going to a quote therapist unquote well tv therapy tv therapist i don't know what i'm trying to say i think with sexual stuff no matter what's happened well unless it was like sexual abuse or something i'm not saying that but issues with your parents or how they behaved when they're affecting you sexually. And as adult, you understand that part of you has to just, um, keep trying the sex part anyway, because she's mentioned like, Oh, I don't even care about a man. I don't even want a man. I mean, that's like the thought of touching a penis makes me just want to you know turn into an ice cream truck or whatever i don't know i've got issues with that too and with me i'm just with my i guess i'm talking to

myself because with my issues i've just had to be like uh kind of like stephanie said in your sex podcast your live podcast when you're talking to sex with emily and someone was saying well you know my husband wants to have it all the time and I don't necessarily. And Emily was saying, well, you need to get a flashlight or something and just help him out and be done. You know, Bueller, stop. This is a very professional podcast. All right.

You're messing this up. Sorry. But she was saying, you know, just get a flashlight and help your man. And then Lynette goes, I just do what he wants. She's like, I just do whatever he wants. The end. And you're saying you feel like you should be more like her? I'm feeling like sometimes in a relationship, yeah, that's just the best way to be.

It's like, just stop worrying about it. Just maybe you need something certain from your partner. And you guys can talk about that when he's not horny. But if he's horny, just do what he wants and get him out of the house i mean that's kind of how i feel well i think that to the withholding you can start using that those psychological issues that you have as a way of being in control you know so then you just start turning down sex all the time and it's a way of not being vulnerable and not giving of yourself and that's it it's sort of narcissistic you know you don't feel like having sex you don't feel like dealing with the fact that you don't feel like having sex

so a healthier person maybe would be like okay i don't really feel like it but you know that that sex is part of a healthy relationship so i'm just gonna fucking do it yeah and i'm gonna treat it like going to the gym and hopefully I'll feel better afterwards. And, you know, that's totally true. Right. And I'm not loving this right now, but I'll love the muscles later. Exactly. But somebody like Bethany, I think probably just goes like, I don't want to do it.

So I'm just not going to. Yeah. Yeah. It's tricky. I mean, I don't know. It's I guess I shouldn't be judging someone else's issues after they've gone through everything that she went through because god from the sound of it i mean if that's just the stuff she'll talk about on a tv show i'm like holy crap what was going on in that house yeah well you know i relate to bethany a bit i had a really rough childhood too

and i relate to a lot of her scrappiness but it's sort of like at a certain point when you get older you you either become really hardened and narcissistic like I feel like Bethany has and although it's entertaining to watch and kind of fun you wouldn't want to be friends with her right well I don't think she could be friends because she's not open. I mean, to be a real friend with somebody, you have to be open. You have to talk about your life and what you're thinking. It's not just like your laundry list of things to do and your problems. And I'm homeless and he did this and then I left my talk show and then my skinny girl and the skinny girls in every scene you know you can't some people just aren't really built for relationships like that you know at all but so early on when she was first on the show first season i really liked her because i related to that scrappiness and her trying to sell her stuff and like her being the one that's like i don't have money and I don't have a boyfriend. And, you know, I'm trying to make it in this world. And it was relatable.

But now as a woman who's made it, that's not attractive qualities anymore. Yeah, I think she's probably starting to learn. And being around people and having so much fun, she's really starting to warm up. I mean, I really don't care what your person i don't care who you are i really on these shows at least i just really like people when they will own their shit like if someone's a jerk and they can just admit that they're a jerk i like it and she's pretty much owning that lately so she can do really anything now and i'm behind her you know that conversation she had with heather they were getting massages and they're bonding because they're both basically being judgmental of alcoholism. Right.

Whatever. Whatever it is, they're bonding. And they got a massage. And Bethany said, I can't even believe we're at this point because, you know, I just wanted you dead. I thought you were a horrible human being and I just wanted to see your head get chopped off. And Heather was like, yeah, I thought you were a bitch. She's like, you're right. I was, I am a bitch. You know? I know. And then Heather's like, I'm just so glad you like me now though, Bethany, because you're so amazing.

I mean, everyone's always saying how amazing you are, but now that I'm having a massage right next to you, I can really see how amazing you are. I mean, you're, you're one amazing woman. You know, when you let me chew up your food before you ate it, that was, I mean, I just felt like a mama's bird. Mamas. First of all, I just have to say that at the very opening of that scene, one of them goes, God, we deserve this. What? What have you done to deserve it? All that nothing you've done.

Your hard day being on a cruise. Heather's like, do you know how hard it is running a company not called Spanx? It is difficult. I'm having to go into stores by myself, take Spanx off the shelf, and put mine where they were. No one does that for me. Jonathan doesn't do that for me. He has his own job, mamas. Keep it, Heather.

He has his own job, mamas. Keep it, Heather. I just keep writing Ramona dating because I just think it's so hilarious, Ramona going on Tinder, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, but we have to go back to, because this is where things start heating up. Okay, so it's the next morning, and the yoga guy comes over, rightid david david david david's here david david where are you bending over david don't bend over for me david david's doing a sun salutation

to his mistress across the lake david oh my god all i can think about sometimes during the day is that impression dav David. David. David. Who? David. This show, doing this show kills me for real life because I do that stuff in real life and people look at me like, shut up. What are you talking about? It's like a reference nobody knows.

The David and paralyzed. Paralyzed. Oh, yeah. So the next day. So that's when Bethany was, as someone put on our Facebook page, facebook.com slash watch it crappens, by the way, to do our plugs at the top. That's what somebody said on our Facebook page. Please mention Bethany, quote unquote, cooking in a bikini. Oh, my God. Yeah. But she looks amazing in a bikini. It's ridiculous. But she looks amazing in a bikini.

It's ridiculous. Of course she does. Have you ever seen her? I've seen her put one half a bite of a rigatoni in her mouth. That's all I've ever seen her eat on this show. And then she threw it up. They don't show that part, but that's what happened. Well, she always does go to the bathroom right after.

I mean, and did she get a boob job? Bethany? I don't know. I don't feel like season one she had big boobs and now she's got huge boobs oh she does? oh I didn't even notice I noticed Ramona's I mean good lord woman those things look like a fun house

I mean they all have big boobs except Carol they're coming give her time this is the part where they go to Dorinda this is where Dorinda. This is where Dorinda's true personality comes out. And first, Dorinda's bitching about the room.

So you know how Sonya was complaining about the room? So then Dorinda's like, yeah, the room, it's the worst. It's too near the kitchen. I thought this room would be good, but it's not good. I mean, it's by a pool. It's by the kitchen. This is where we would put the nannies this would be the nanny room well i mean i'm sorry but that was that was insane that was her true colors coming out and then she's like sonia you should not put up with bethany oh yeah well that part for sure well i think i mean i get it. Just as a side note, one of the funny things about doing this is I used to be so worried in the beginning that people were going to hate me for bagging on people.

And it turns out when they get mad, it's not because I'm mean to someone. It's because I'm nice to somebody, which is hilarious. But now, you know, people get kind of mad because I just like Dorinda. She sounds like the Rosie from the Jetsons. of banned because i just like dorinda she sounds like the rosie from the jetsons you know i just like her and so everything i do i think because i like her is colored by the fact that i like her so i just saw that as of course that's where you'd put the nanny because she's rich and then when she's talking to sonia i thought she was just trying to help sonia because sonia's way of dealing with it is just to get even drunker and

then pass out you know and dorinda's like no you just got to stand up for yourself if you feel like you're not being treated right then stand up to them and tell them to stop it and stop calling you an alcoholic you know but she was acting like she was tony robbins or something she's like you need to stand up and you need to say i'm not gonna it anymore. Well honey compared to Sonia. Everybody's Tony Robbins. Oh my god. And then she says. Something about how. How much all the other women drink.

She's talking to Sonia. And then she says like. That's why I stay sober. Around the ladies. They're record keepers these women. They're record keepers. I mean she's basically saying. These women are not your

friends she's this is her first season on the show slow your roll dorinda yeah well i actually agree with her because the ladies are not her friends they are so all they do is talk about what a drunk she is on camera and i think dorinda's still horrified that everything that's happening is on camera i mean i'm sure she's seen the show before but a lot of the time she's horrified it just seems like i can't believe you're calling somebody a drunk and a bad you know an alcoholic on tv when they're not here a lot of her is just like that's not cool those kids will be taken away in two seconds but dorinda has i mean uh sonia has been an alcoholic since season one yeah i was talking about that yesterday i couldn't remember season one craziness

she got a dui in season one not on camera but i mean she she got a dui on like uh where do they all live during the winter the hamptons the hamptons yeah yeah she got a dui it's just not been talked about I mean you know why because other people were overshadowing her like Ramona always seemed like an alcoholic like a lot of them drink a lot and remote but so Sonia wasn't quite the focus but now she's you know it maybe it's getting even more out of control but she's always been the one who has the alcohol problem in my opinion yeah um i mean i'm not a doctor i can't i'm not a doctor what do i know i'm not a doctor i can't use the word

alcoholic i don't know who am i to say who am i to say uh yeah sonia i mean i don't feel bad for her for getting a dui i do feel bad that she had to drive herself because that must have been hard for her that's why she was drinking. Then they'll love that. Then Sonia to camera. She talking about Bethany after, after Dorinda says, Bethany, she's not nice to you.

You shouldn't have to put up with it. Then Sonia says, she just doesn't have the education. No, she says that to Dorinda. She just doesn't have the education. She doesn't have the manners. Yeah.

She's, she doesn't have manners and education. Oh my God. That I was horrified for her because bethany will get her for that bethany's been really nice i mean granted it's in the bethany way where she screams at you to shut the fuck up and tells you tells you you're a loser but still it's like a hug from bethany right right and she's trying to be nice i'm on big brother now we do not need to be talking about big brother i wasn't even

smoking up or drinking or anything during this but you would never know that from these notes all right someone's talking to chef i love that they got a clip of uh carol talking to that chef they show the chef and they're like oh the chef the chef's hot. And Carol's like, what are you making? Carol's like, I love blueberries. Do you have blueberries? Watching people cook is the most I ever eat. God, I liked Carol better when she was at least writing a fucking book and she had something to do. See, everyone's turning on Carol this season too. And I don't see, someone said,

oh, Carol used to be funny. This is from our Facebook again. Somebody said, oh, Carol used to be funny, but now she's just, I don't know, a bitch basically, I guess they were saying. But I think she's kind of the same as she's always been, right? Except now she has like a young boyfriend

and she hasn't mentioned her dead husband yet. Well, I think there's too many women. I know you like it with Moore, but I like it when you can kind of focus on what each person is doing. And obviously being a writer, being an author, I related to Carol Moore when she was actually one of the few that actually had something she was doing, that she was actually a real author. And I loved Bookgate, the Viva. I mean, that was just fascinating to me. And so I liked Carol better then when she had an enemy in a Viva. But now I just think she just acts like a little young, you know.

It's like I'm 25. I can't help it if all the boys like me. I mean, look at this body. Yeah. Yeah, I'm 25 I can't help it if all the boys like me I mean look at this body yeah I'm into it I think because I'm aging so I'm really like anybody who's having a middle age crisis I'm on their side like Mario call me I'm totally on your side

no I'm not I don't have any problem with her dating Luann's house boy you know I really don't care she should be able to date who she wants. She doesn't get enough camera time for me to feel either way about her, actually.

Luann's not even mad that she slept with her niece's ex-boyfriend or his age or anything like that. Luann's mad that she slept with an employee. It's like, oh, with an employee. I agree. It's like going to someone's house and stealing the hooker right out

of it. You don't do that. They're paid. They're already paid. You don't just come down to someone's dinner and just start eating their appetizers because you're in the same restaurant. I gotta tell you that I may be all alone in this, but I love Luann.

Oh, I love Luann. I just think she says the most underrated little one-liners here and there. I don't know if she always knows when she's being funny. But Anne, she's just got this, like, sneaky bad girl side. Just like when she slept with the pirate. And, you know, when she was cheating on David Schwimmer with the with the pirate. We called him Balky. Oh, I guess he would be Balky played by David Schwimmer.

Because now all I see is David Schwimmer. That's such a good way to say Jacques. Jacques. Yes, he was the French David Schwimmer to me. And that whole thing where she was lying about it, you know, and, and, uh, sneaking around with him and then lying about it. And then they were all accusing her of fucking him in the house. And then she was like, what are you talking about? No,

I had just a bunch of friends over. I was in love with Luann during that. I'm just like, oh, you go, you keep telling that story. So good. And then they catch her talking

on the phone with her bad French yes she's like je ne sais quoi she keep a lot she was basically ordering tacos and a secret the lady was like uh okay Loanne this is fine I do this she's like thank you darling honey, learn the language better. Oh, that was such a good season. It was so good. Oh, bring that back. And then she's like, how come the producers told everybody? And why are these tacos here?

Who ordered tacos? Oh, Luann. So after this, Dorinda, this is a route for the daddy. Then is when Sonia just started going nuts because Dorinda told her, you just need to stand up and say, no, I'm Sonia. I've got to roar in whoever's penis I want to. And she's like, that's a good idea. And then she went out and just started screaming and yelling at everybody. Wait, was that before or after, though? No, I think first I think Ramona took Sonia out.

Didn't this happen first when then she threw Bethany under the bus? Well, why don't you play note decoder? Because this is what I have. S and D. Chase this room. Lot of action there. nanny's room d say no to yoga sonia b yelled at me and then she imitates her d she doesn't have education oh dorinda said she doesn't have education and manner according to my very accurate notes no sonia did

sonia did yeah and then dorinda stands and yells, stop it! Like Taylor from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Stop this! And she even did her hands in the same way where she was stopping it. And I was like, yeah, I think Taylor got fired the next season, so don't do that. I don't drink. Scorekeepers. Head talking behind back. Yelling during yoga.

I don't flirt. Shutting it down. What else will be? They keep coming back like a bad pimple that's herpes i wrote uh should be a life coach oh dorinda is a life coach yes maybe that did happen later well yeah so dorinda starts saying i always wanted to be a therapist could you imagine all right let's give therapy as um let's give therapy as dorinda. Who should have the problem? Who's she going to give therapy to? I guess all of them.

I guess because she was doing Sonia anyway. She could be like, I was a good therapist to Sonia. Here's what I told her. If you're going to get drunk, do it when everybody's gone. Then no one will see you get drunk. Because they're keeping score. Everybody's keeping score.

Be like an Upper East Side couple. Be the first to dance at a party, go to church, you know, pick up a piece of trash maybe every once in a while on the street to show that you're a person of the community. Okay, thank you. That'll be $500. Don't forget to plug yourself back in in the kitchen when you're done or you're not going to be ready to vacuum in the morning.

Oh, my gosh that is hilarious i didn't even drink it like then ramona and ramona this is what it is sonia's going off with ramona saying she thinks i'm an alcohol bethany thinks i'm an alcoholic i mean how could she even think that all i've done is go to lunch with her i didn't even drink at that lunch well and then Bethany thinks I'm an alcoholic. I mean, how could she even think that? All I've done is go to lunch with her. I didn't even drink at that lunch. And then, so Ramona is saying this. By the way, Ramona tells Sonia as if she has nothing to do with it. She's like, yeah, Sonia, you should just know that Bethany thinks you're an alcoholic.

Yeah. All the ladies are talking about you. Everybody's talking about you and think that you're an alcoholic. Yeah. All the ladies are talking about you. Everybody's talking about you and think that you're an alcoholic. And I told them, no, Sonia has no problems with alcohol. And this is not nice to say on the television when people are going to see it. And I was standing up for you, Sonia. So this is the best part of the episode. So Bethany is walking by while Ramona is saying that.

And Bethany comes over and is like, what's going on? And then Ramona says, well, I just told Sonia that you think she's an alcoholic. And this is why you gotta love Bethany. Because she's like, yeah, said it too. You did too. Give her the money, said it. And Ramona

threw her hands up in the air and her eyes bugged out and crossed. And then she kind of got that head. Ramona's got Asperger's or something because she has like a twitch when she gets emotional. Her eyes bug out and she twitches. So she started doing her Asperger's thing and she goes, I don't know.

What? What? What? I don't remember that. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. No. She's like Bethany, absolutely not. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I never said's like, Bethany, absolutely not. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I never said that. I never said that.

And then they roll back for saying that she has a drinking problem. And the thing was so crazy. Oh, but they rolled back to the Italian restaurant. She's like, yes, you did. We were at that Italian restaurant that reminded me of the rodeo, remember? And she's like, oh, well, you know, I said a lot of things that night. They gave me bread and the bread in it. I had a bite of it and it had meat and there was meat and bread and my body didn't know what to do. It went crazy.

I don't know what I said. I'm intolerant of gluten. I was gluten drunk. And of alcohol. I'm alcoholics. Yeah. I just, I can only have Pinot Grigio. It's like Bethany with her, I'm allergic to just fish with fins.

She's like, I can't have alcohol. Only Pinot Grigio. It's the only kind of alcohol I'm not allergic to is pinot grigio that's why i drink so much pinot grigio it's all i can have gluten intolerance is why the kids are shooting up schools you can't blame me when i have some gluten okay with bread it was gluten and bad fried and fat food combining all at the same time okay okay and then this was truly the best part that you guys teased on a different podcast this is when luanne comes over and is like everybody stop yelling i made eggs that was good

this is when they're all at the beach right right they're like fighting on the beach right and Bethany's like what you said it too I mean look all I'm saying is sometimes we're all drunk okay sometimes we do things when we're drunk we say things when we're drunk but you do too we all do she's like I know that's what I said

Luann's like I made eggs a la francais and then Luann says you know sometimes at the end of the night you fall asleep and sonia's like so sue me when else are you supposed to sleep when else are you supposed to sleep it's night time that's what i'm supposed to do luan's like sometimes at the end of the night you fall asleep, naked with an 18-year-old. But, you know, who am I to judge? I like

pirates. It's okay. I'm not saying anything. Luanne's like, listen, I'm not judging you. It's just that you fall asleep in bars and you never pay your tab. But ever since you got Apple Pay in your vagina, you've been fine by me. So just keep doing what you're doing, girl. And then Heather, stop yelling, you're doing girl stop yelling mama

mama stop yelling mama ass and then that's when sonia freaks out and starts screaming at everybody and then dorinda goes like this wow i i don't know what happened i had no idea sonia was going to take my advice if i was a life coach the upper east side would be louder than ever um i'm trying to see now what i do you stuff when you're drunk we all do you flirt with guys what guys what are you talking about i haven't gone home with a guy i mean so that one guy i mean who else who else what other guy it's like how many guys you want them to name this show is an hour. Right. Stop pretending you don't go home with guys.

Putting an intern badge on them the next day and refusing to pay them doesn't mean you don't like date. Everyone sleeps with the taxi driver at the end of the night. I mean, who doesn't do that? There's a reason they call it Uber. Am I supposed to just pay the fare? I mean, you know I'm broke. You know I'm having financial problems. I like when Bethany told her. Yeah, but Ramona said that you need a walker.

Like, you need a walker after you go out. And she's like, yes, I do need a walker. So what? Who doesn't need walkers? You know, most people who need walkers, they give them parking right in the front of the store. But no, if I need a walker, it's just horrible to suddenly be handicapped. What's a walker? It means someone to walk her home because she's so drunk so heather was saying they need that she's had to carry her

up the stairs and put her in bed before and bethany was saying oh you need something you always need someone to walk you home nobody brought up the dui though which i thought was interesting yeah i think that they've all got so many secrets on each other that they're just very careful like they can talk about the alcoholism and the bankruptcies and stuff like that because I think that they've all got so many secrets on each other that they're just very careful. Like they can talk about the alcoholism and the bankruptcies and stuff like that because they're already on the air. But I don't I think stuff like, you know. Right. The wise because, you know, don't throw stones when you're about to crash into a glass house when you drunk.

Right. Right. So get out of my shit. and she yells at everybody didn't you feel like it was kind of it was weird like was she even really mad was she acting because then she gets over it so fast honestly i think sonia doesn't even know what they're talking about i really don don't. Because she gets so blackout drunk that I think that she just doesn't even, when they bring up this stuff, she doesn't know. You know, she really doesn't know. That model that she brought home who's like 20,

I don't even think she knows how he got there. She probably just thinks it was like a freebie, you know, from someone in India who liked her dress. Like, she doesn't know. Maybe it was just a worker. Yeah, I think they were saying, you need to get mad because this is offensive. They're calling you these things.

You need to stand up for yourself. And she's like, I don't want to be a pussy. I want to be the one who stands up for myself. So I'm doing it! Right, that's what I'm saying. I don't think she knows what's going on either. I completely agree. So she just went and yelled at everybody

and then refused to go on a boat which was so sad because if anybody was going to get laid in the ocean it's sonia i know you know she'll find like someone who's been lost at sea for years just to have sex with them that captain uh you know what was the tom hanks yes she's like don't worry i'm not a terrorist i'm not taking over your boat i'm just She's like, don't worry, I'm not a terrorist. I'm not taking over your boat. I'm just making out with the front of it. What?

I'm not a slut. Making out with a boat? This boat is my new intern. I'm coming aboard. I found the new pickles. I'm boarding your ship so funny just her in a dinghy trying to pull up behind a big ship full of sailors she's like i'm gaining on you they're all the sailors are looking at her through a legal

periscope the back off the back of the ship she's just they're like isis is coming she's like no it's just me swim faster intern number four swim faster this is the daughter of a vanderbilt that i wrote over here just desperate to get laid so funny so who was saying that they're so uh they don't like this somebody was like i it must have been ramona because who else says that but i don't like this this is stressing me out and i don't really like all this fighting and luann's like me neither you bitches are crazy all you do is start shit over and over and then you're like i can't take it it's so difficult i can't believe that someone called so yeah an alcoholic you're my stomach is just nervous i'm just not having a good time anymore

oh ramona i'm not under attack i'm attacking you bitches jorinda's like, shh, be quiet. I didn't know she was going to take my advice. How could I have known? I've never done therapy before. I was just interning. I was just getting my hours. I didn't know people were going to listen to me. I don't even have a degree yet. So what is this?

Bethany and Carol talking to ladies, Dorinda, blah, blah, blah. And then Dorinda's like oh then sonia hears them again and starts fighting with them and dorinda's like i didn't say she was the drunk i just said she needs to be very careful when she's drunk that's all i said what did i say

so good this show is so funny to me and what their vacations are amazing i'm really glad that this what was this the second or third one because i hear they have four on vacation oh my god i don't even know i love it somewhere else already that bethany well no then they went to dorinda's house oh no they're spending four episodes of this vacation on vacation oh oh oh yeah yeah uh so let me see alcoholic ramona yeah because yeah oh no no i'm sorry i was just i'm i'm always back to ramona in this alcoholism thing i think it's so fucking funny why is she calling you a drunk you don't call people an alcoholic that is something you don't say who says says that? It's like, you. You said it. Well, everybody was calling Ramona an alcoholic last year with her whole The Turtle time.

And it was Ramona who was having the drinking problem. So she's probably thrilled to death that they're putting it on Sonia now. Yeah. And all the ladies were like, oh, God, I can't stand all this fighting. Let's just agree to not talk about Sonia anymore. Let's make a pact because all we talk about is Sonia and her drunkenness or her sluttiness or whatever. Let's just let her be who she is and not say anything. I really like that because that was Bethany saying that.

And she's like, look, I mean, she's a mess. What are we going to talk about her being a mess every day? Who cares? Just let her be a mess. Next time she's a mess, let's just laugh and move on. Right. This is when I started liking Bethany. Yeah.

I like that. And then they made the swear jar, except if you talk about Sonia, you have to put money in the swear jar or whatever. And Heather's like, I totally agree with you, mamas. It's like when I told Sonia. I mean, Heather had to pay a lot of money. She had to pay the entire investment amount that she spent buying Spanx at different stores to copy them. Well, because this is unfortunately this is Heather's whole storyline now. Yeah.

He's just trying to insert herself into other people's storylines. Yeah. Hey, Mama. Pretty much. She's like, hey, Mama. People are saying you're an alcoholic. Hey, Mama. I understand being addicted to the bottle.

I mean, you just see my baby with his nanny. Bottle, bottle, bottle all day long. Very difficult. Very difficult. And even my husband. My husband's still breastfeeding, Mama, and that's okay. That's okay, Mama. We call it passion in my house, Mamas.

Listen, we're not going to talk anymore about how Sonia's a drunk slut or how she's addicted to marked-up rayon. We're just not going to talk anymore about how Sonia's a drunk slut or how she's addicted to marked up rayon. We're just not going to talk about it. OK, if she wants to call it silk, let her call it silk. Yeah. Heather's always pretending she's taking the high road, but then getting her little digs in there. Yeah. As any good mother has learned to do. I'm from the South and that's how women are bred to to speak you know like with a smile on your face in a very polite way and saying fuck you at the same time so right bless your heart yeah she's

east coast but she's got it down i actually really like all of the women um on this show i really like them i don't have hater gate for anybody on this one i think they're all great. Even Heather. Maybe because I'm coming to a more understanding place. I've always liked Heather. Everybody hates Heather except for me. I've said it before. I do like Heather, but I mean, it's hard to like her this season just because she doesn't, honestly, she doesn't get

camera time, though. So all they do is put in her little, like, I think the editors know that people are annoyed by her. Hey, Mama! So every chance they get, they put it in. in yeah and she just doesn't really do much i mean she goes to work and then she goes home and her husband seems kind of boring i mean what do you want to go home and watch the husband clean the toilet not me right exactly but so heather and kristin now have kind of the same nothing going on i know and i like them i hope they don't get kicked off.

Even though Kristen doesn't do anything. I like that Kristen's still on and does nothing. I think it's so funny. I don't know why. I'm just so amused by her. She doesn't do anything. I just like that she doesn't understand what's going on ever, and she can't relate to anybody,

but she's still there just looking really... She doesn't know if she's confused or disgusted or afraid of her own future here's this is going to sound really catty and um who cares because this is what we're here to do but i just don't think kristen's that pretty i think she's and i i will i would be the first person to say that another woman is beautiful but i don't get i know she's a model but i think she's normal looking like she's normal pretty i don't if i saw her walking down the street i wouldn't be like holy shit she's really beautiful she should be a model i think and yet her whole thing is about being her whole thing is about how she's just so beautiful and it's so hard to be beautiful

yeah well also that like really thin pretty blonde girl is very rare in New York that's not really an east coast thing that's why they're all trying to do it in uh secrets and wines okay I guess being in LA maybe maybe she's just got that LA yeah I don't know I don't know when when you're so beautiful that you're a model you just kind of blend into the same non-understandable race to me like I don't really focus on features anymore. It's like, I don't know. I don't know. You know, when you stare at a wall for a really long time, and then you'll start seeing spots and stuff. That's how I feel when I look at people who are that pretty. They just look like kind of a wall. And I'm trying to distinguish what the dots are trying to say. But I mean, okay okay look on housewives oc megan she's really pretty like when

i when you see her and she's dressed up it's hard not to go wow she's pretty drop dead gorgeous you can see why she's dating athletes but i don't look at kristin and go i think her face is really pretty i just think k think Kristen looks bland to me I vote team Kristen I think Kristen's prettier than Megan But Megan is really pretty I just kind of worry about her Because Megan seems kind of eating disorder-y to me

Because she has that ear thing Somehow I speak as someone who knows eating disorders Very well Before people get all pissed off She has Anorexia ears yeah uh does have you do you have you ever noticed that there's something with anorexics um and support group thank you very much so stop it i know what i'm talking about where i think

you're i don't know what it is but i've noticed it with anorexic girls that their ears kind of stand out i don't know what it is i don't know noticed it with anorexic girls that their ears kind of stand out. I don't know what it is. I don't know. I've never said it out loud, but I've always wondered. Because their head starts looking really big for their body. Oh, do you think that's it? Maybe it's just the features look bigger.

And probably because their face gets so thin that you can really see the bones on the side of their face. So it makes the ears really obvious. Maybe that's what it is. They don't have fat on their temples. Yeah, she's really pretty too. it makes the ears really obvious maybe that's what it is but yeah they don't have like fat on their temples yeah she's really i don't either but that's aging i have fat on my temples i need some fat can i have some of yours oh sure i'll inject my fat wherever you need it i'm losing my temple fat oh my god i've got so much fat i can give you whatever you need i'll take it from my love handles and you'll have the biggest butt in town. My Botox lady told me I need Sculptra. What is that?

Something that you inject into your temples and it creates its own, it makes its own fat. What does that mean? It sounds really scary and my husband's not on board. Why would women be injecting themselves with something that causes your body to produce fat? I've never heard of that. Yeah, but just in your fit. You do it in your fit. I don't know.

It's like something that plumps up. It plumps it up, but it doesn't do it all of a sudden. You're not putting in like a fake stuff. Like cement. Right. Never cement. Right. I mean, I already have the cement in my butt, and that looks amazing. Oh, you do? Did you get

a butt sculpt? I got cement. No. You never know when you're going to ask to be a speed bump in the neighborhood. That's true. That's true. And we have speed bumps in the neighborhood and I'm looking for a job. So you got like a butt sculpt or what? How did they do it? i was just making a joke oh i thought you really did we're in la i was so excited to ask you no um so i've also never heard of the laser lipo though on my um but that was you know why for on um the podcast we got it for lynette and i got it for free so we did it what the hell it didn't make a huge difference though

it's just kind of like they took they took a little fat out of the upper thigh. For the laser or for the butt? The laser. It was like laser lipo. And it didn't make a huge difference? Not really, no. Because I saw on one Housewives show, I think it was the Cheshire one. I don't remember.

But one of them, they went to get their fat frozen off. That's a thing. Have you ever done that? I've never done that. Okay. On your show, talk about frozen fat and then, um, take me instead of Stephanie. Okay. I mean, and see if anybody offers us to do it. Yeah. See if we can get some free frozen fat. I would be such a whore for Botox. I'm not even kidding you. We were, I was like, we need to get on Paul Nassif so that he can come be on our podcast and give us free Botox. OMG. I will be your sound guy that day.

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I have like a lot of forehead wrinkles and I have crow's feet and I love them because I like making really stupid face. You know, like performing and stuff. My face helps me. People will laugh at it. Right. I have nothing else to say. I'll make a face. So I like it. I love my face getting all wrinkinkly but i know it's not the same for everybody you

can say that as a guy women we can't it's not attractive when we start having crow's feet and our face looks our forehead looks like a sharpay it's not a good look when you're a girl people say that but i don't know who these older hot men are that everyone's talking about i mean there's like george clooney but who are these other men who are aging so gracefully because i don't see it i i mean all of them i mean look at matt damon ben affleck wow he's still young right i mean they're still kind of young well they're they've got to be my age. Well, you're still young. I am turning 49 in three days. Holy mother. You look so good.

Okay, I'm getting Botox. That's what I'm saying. Change my mind. Shit, I'll get more shit put in my butt. I don't care. I just get a little Botox because it's all I can afford. Like, I'll do the poor person package, please. Thank you.

Okay, so we need to get my finger my finger looks really good um before we move on i have to say bethany had the best line of the year so far when she said when she was talking to kristin and kristin was like bethany's like yeah you know i we didn't get along at first, but, you know, we've all got our shit. And Kristen's like, you know what? I really don't. Like, I'm young. I'm gorgeous. And my kids like me.

I mean, I don't have any shit, really. And she's like, yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. She's like, no. I mean, my husband's mean to me. But otherwise, I mean, it's great. Oh, I know. She goes, I just give him a blowjob and it's great.

Bethany goes, blowjobs are the windows to the soul. That was so funny. Yeah. And with goes, blowjobs are the windows to the soul. That was so funny. Yeah. And with that, their friendship was cemented. Yep. The end. Blowjob. Blowjob.

The end. So did we have anything else in here? The stupid, they play a joke on Ramona in case anyone thinks we didn't notice that. Yeah. No, there's a good thing coming up where, um, they come back and Sonia and Ramona are talking and Ramona says, Oh, the thing I love about Sonia is she just like, you know, she gets mad, but then, then she just gets over it. She's, she's just, you know, a rock. And, um, then Sonia tells Ramona,

like, she can't just go off on her about her drinking and then you know want her to come party and then my favorite sonia line of the of the episode was she says uh she's talking about how she doesn't really need these girls and she goes i mean this is one click i have many clicks around the world yeah i have many clicks okay i know the cast of saved by the bell that's a click they never talk to me like this. There's my intern click. There's the stewardess click. Whenever I'm on a plane on Southwest, the stewardesses are my click. They never talk to me like this.

I mean, this is disgusting. This is gross. I had to take the train last week, and the people in my subway car, my click. Didn't say anything. Subway click. Shut up, Sonia. All my super drivers together together they're a click they don't click with each other but i click with all of them and we're a click i wrote down one funny thing because this one i watched oh did you have something more for

that no just that ramona then ramona is telling telling sonia just forget everyone don't even listen to them don't even listen to them Sonia like Ramona you're the one who has started all the shit in the first place and they all tell her too which is so funny they Luann's like well you're the one who started it Bethany's like oh good job Ramona good job and then run away she's like what what I didn't do anything what are you talking about I didn't do anything this is crazy i know uh i loved it this part there was a commercial break and i was watching this uh illegally so i don't i didn't have commercials but i loved how right before the commercial break uh they showed dorinda going

you're acting like a bitch and then it cut to luanne going, paradise. We're in paradise. So this show. You're acting like a bitch. We're in paradise. Francois. Eggs Francois. Eggs a la Francois. And then this is the giant necklace scene.

Oh, my God. Thank you. Everybody. Luanne was wearing a vineyard. She was wearing like a full line of wine on her necklace okay but it was kristen was wearing like some kind of crazy p diddy like it the it was like a boa constrictor of gold around her neck with a huge lock yeah it was a gigantic gigantic she's like this isn't a statement necklace actually josh um got this for me on our honeymoon night and he keeps trying to

make me jump in the ocean. He is so funny. I gave him a blow job after that. My neck still hurts because this is heavy. I mean, who's going to lie, but I love my life. Shut up, Kristen. Yeah, that thing looked like she was going to drown. Yes. That's so funny. He keeps trying to take me to the end of docks. I don't know why. I'm not really sure what his thing is. He's just romantic. He wants to look at the ocean. The docks. He keeps telling me, jump, honey, jump.

And I say, no, my hair's pretty. Pretty hair. So they comment on the wine necklaces that you know somebody, one of them is selling on their website, I'm sure. Yeah, that's at like mervins.com slash the countess. Right, right. And then, okay, then we have to talk about the crazy Dorinda losing her shit. Okay, Dorinda finally had a couple drinks. First of all, Dorinda saying earlier,

Oh, I have a couple of drinks and then I cut it off because these women, they're schoolkeepers. Cut it off because these women, they're schoolkeepers. Right. Dorinda, first of all, has the biggest fucking martini I've ever seen in my life. Like everywhere they go. I don't know where they're still serving martinis that big, but they're gigantic. They look like a trough. They're huge.

So of course you have two drinks. And she had to be drunk, right? Oh, yeah. She had to be because there was nothing even bad happened. These are my favorite fights when nothing happened. Heather was just saying, come on, guys, are you leaving? Because some women were ready to leave for dinner and some weren't. And so some of the women were like, yeah, let's leave them. But they didn't actually.

They were just kind of walking outside. And then Dorinda's like, I said, hold on. Why are you leaving me? No, we weren't. I just told you we're going. I heard you, Heather. I heard you. And, hold on. Why are you leaving me? No, there's not. No, we weren't. I just told you we're going. I heard you, Heather. I heard you. And I'm here.

Why are you leaving me? Why are you talking to me like that? Nobody talks to me like that. Even Mr. Jetson talks to me with respect. She's like, I didn't say anything. He's like, yes, you did. You're acting like a bitch. And then she just, like, stumbles off.

But even before that, Heather said she somebody says yells to heather like uh uh are you ignoring me right it was either dorinda or who dorinda was what's that no i think dorinda says are you ignoring me you can hear it and then heather is like no let's go what's up but she goes backwards and then dorinda is like i said you said you were gonna weren't gonna wait for me and then heather said you said are you ignoring me and i said no and dorinda goes crazy and she's like i did not say that you're a bitch i didn't say that you better back it up mister you better back it up or i'm gonna snatch those balls off and throw them in the ocean besta and then i love that then dorinda says to camera it's exhausting being around these women all the drama well i think they said dorinda in my head because i like dorinda so i'm coloring this but uh in my head they said so dorinda what about that

freak out you had with heather and i think she was like look these women are exhausting i'm exhausted i can't do this anymore i can't i think she was just like i'm break you know i broke because they're nuts it's like screaming and yelling all around me all day and but she was none other than any of them you had to have seen that i did see it yeah i did see it that's why i'm saying i think she started getting drunk finally. I think she was drunk, too. And then Heather says, was that the martini talking? Yeah.

Or was she out of her mind? Yeah, but Heather probably says that to everybody who thinks she's a bitch. She's like, there must be a drunk. It must have nothing to do with me patting them on the head and trying to change their diaper. That's true. But in this case, it had nothing to do with it. Yeah, on the head and trying to change her diaper that's true but in this case it had nothing yeah it didn't dorinda was being mama and then at least heather took the high road because heather if i was heather i would have just been like you're out of your mind but heather was like okay she's out of her mind she's probably drunk so then she went over and like sat on her lap or something and was like, okay, are you okay? Okay, you're gangster.

Yeah. You're gangsta. I'll give you that much. Yeah. It's funny. And then she's like, did you think that was funny? Did you think that was funny? Oh, yeah.

This is the part where she said, I'm not a child. Stop treating me like a child. She's like, then stop acting like one. Right. And then Ramona gives a toast. I would like to thank you all for coming to dinner. I hope you don't fight because I can't listen to you guys fighting. All you do is cause drama and emotion.

I mean, do you know how hard this is for me? This is where they found Mario on Tinder. I mean, why can't Mario be on Grindr? I mean, if he was gay, at least I'd know how many feet away he was. That is not a toast. I ordered a little something extra off the menu for Mario. I'm just going to bring it back. I'm just going to have it shipped to him.

I'd like to have the pasta. And also, it's a go box on the side because I'm going to eat half and take half to Mario in case he's there. And if not, it's just going to sit in the refrigerator because I don't care. I don't care. I'm not going to throw it away. He can eat old food if he wants to. I'm a new woman. I don't care. It's not codependent if you just leave it in the refrigerator because I don't care. I don't care. I'm not going to throw it away. He can eat old food if he wants to. I'm a new woman. I don't care. It's not codependent if you just leave it in the fridge.

When Mario was with me, I always got him something to eat. You think that's just going to stop because he's with someone else? It's not going to stop. He's my Mario. I spent a quarter of a century with him. He's my Mario. I'm a giver. That's what I do. I take care of people. That's what I do. I love. Shut take care of people. That's what I do.

I love Ramona. And then they started talking about Heather's marriage or, or this is, so we've already talked about this. We talked about this, but then they go back and then we have our last thing that stirs up the new drama, which is that Bethany's cooking. And then Ramona decides she wants to go out to eat.

Yup. And then they say like sonia or whoever dorinda says you you know we should probably run it by bethany because she's cooking is she okay with not heather says is bethany okay with not cooking and just coming out and ramona's like oh yeah she's fine she's fine yeah she's bethany she's fine it's like do whatever you want i don't care i don't care do whatever you want. I don't care. I don't care. Do whatever you want. You want to go to lunch? I don't care. I'm going to still cook. So you guys do, you know what? Just do whatever you want. I don't care. I'm cooking. It was so much passive aggression going on in that scene.

I don't even know whose side to be on. And then Dorinda says, well, you know, we really need to go ask her. Or Heather says, I mean, this is how things work. People are having to explain to Ramona how to behave like a human. This is how it works. We have to go and we have to run it by Bethany. I don't care. I don't care. She doesn't want to go. She's fine. She's fine. She's cooking. She likes to cook. Let her cook. Let her cook. If she wants to cook, that's fine. I mean, who am I going to judge? If you want to cook, cook. I mean, she's not even cooking, really. I like when she said to Bethany, what are you doing just come with us who cares it's just a salad it's not like you're making a steak bethany almost killed her ass right then and there i loved that whenever there's a meal during the daytime these bitches are gonna

fight because it's ramona and bethany and both of their fights have had to do with meals in the day it's like who's gonna come to lunch my lunch or bethany's lunch you pick you choose i was just shocked that there were no skinny girl products products out where Bethany was cooking. No kidding. The Skinny Girl stir fry sauce. I'm going to stay at Bethany's place just in case she has another toaster for me to take home. I want to put some blueberries in the blender. Oh, and Sonia in the kitchen trying to figure out what the coffee was.

She's like, what is this? I'm just trying to find some coffee. Is there any coffee anywhere? Where's the coffee? Oh, what is this? Is this a little pod? Oh, this is crazy. So you put this in a thing and it comes and coffee comes out.

I usually just squeeze pickles until my thirst is gone. This is crazy. Stupid Sonia. And Dorinda's like, they've acted like they've never had a daddy who stayed downstairs and they worked in the kitchen before. So then Bethany freaks out and just starts telling him, you're manic. You're manic. You have to do the better.

Bethany, who's the most manic of everybody. I don't do her at all. I can't do her. I can just do Ramona. But Bethany's manic monologue while being as manic as we've ever seen her. She's like, I can't take it. You're all being manic. You're so manic.

You're so manic. I can't take it. You want to be manic? Just be manic. I can't do it. I'm not a manic person. But if you want to be manic, go have a manic lunch. Enjoy your manic lunch.

It's like, Jesus. Calm yourself. Do I do a little bit of meth? Yes. But I have a lot to do. I'm not a manic person but if you want to be bad go have a manic lunch enjoy your manic lunch it's like jesus i mean yes do i do a little bit of meth yes but i have a lot to do i'm running a skinny girl empire but i mean so i do a little bit of meth but you are you you guys are high on life you're manic on life i don't like it it's so crazy i love that too much and then bethany of course had to play the violins for herself a little bit look it's it's a kitchen i just like to cook because I don't have a kitchen. I'm homeless. You know, they don't have kitchens in the back of camps where I've been sleeping. They don't have those.

So, you know, so I'm going to cook. Shoot me. I'm going to cook. Yeah. And then Bethany's, your logo should be true me. Yeah. You're so selfish. Your logo should be true me.

And Ramona's like, that's actually not a bad idea. It's copyrighted already, stupid. Bethany's like, I'm going to have to get you to sign a waiver because I came up with it. Yeah. You're dumb. Luann's like, I was there when they developed True Me and I didn't ask for a car.

And then next week we see Dorinda just shit-faced. I cannot wait for that oh it's gonna be great dorinda angry is my favorite thing so far i think my favorite thing from the season was her telling telling jonathan that whole you better watch your mouth bringing up my daughter mister i'll rip those balls right up got it back it up mister back it up. See, this is why, though. From that, I think that that's who she is. I don't think she's so level-headed. I just think she goes off on people and she likes to be the boss and she's very aggro. Yeah.

Well, I hope that that's the case because it makes the show more fun. And I was talking yesterday. I think it was Molly we were talking about this. How Sonya in season one was nothing like she is now. I mean, Sonya in season one was nothing like she is now i mean sonia in season one was so nice i mean she was weird like she had trash all over her house and the walls had like oil leaking out of them or whatever but she was still nice and normal and when the ladies would fight she'd be like i'll help this out ladies can't we just talk about this like adults we you

don't have to leave my party. It's okay. And then, you know, it all goes out the window. Yeah, but Sonia was also super oversexed from her very first season. Oh, yeah. Well, I think that's like right when the husband left, right? I think so, but she was drinking a lot and talking about just how much sex she needs and that she's a very sexual person and hitting on everybody all the time. So, I mean, but yeah, she got weirder for sure.

Maybe I just forgot season one, Sonia, because I just remember the very first scene of that, of Sonia, basically, when Luann came over to Sonia's house to plan some charity thing. And she's like, I love Sonia. She's a fabulous friend and she does charities. I mean, she's famous up here. We all love her. She's the charity lady. And then they show Sonia and she's like, oh, hi.

Yeah, I can find you, you know, some tape. Let me look in this box. And she was just so calm and her house was really dark. Right, right. So I don't know. They all need a season to warm up. And if Dorinda is going to become a villainous bitch, I hope she does it very soon because I love that side of her. Yeah, no, you definitely need somebody like that.

And I think the Bethany, I think it was just becoming too obvious, like too one note. And she lost a little bit of who she used to be where she was. you know, I like Bethany being the tell it like it is girl. And, you know, calling people out on stuff. I like that Bethany, but I don't like it when it's coming from just that bitter defensive. Everybody is against me. And don't you all know what I'm going through? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I was I've had a lot of Bethany. I don't want to say hate because I mean, I don't hate her, but I've had a lot of bethany um i don't want to say hate because i i mean i don't hate her but i've had a lot of bethany issues i guess when we talk about this but the past couple episodes yeah i'm loving it and i think a lot of it really does from what i said before just go back to her finally being around other people who maybe of course they don't have huge empires or whatever but there are other ladies who are similar they have money at least I mean I don't know that's a personality trait right but she's around other similar women and

she's not only surrounded by people that she pays to tell her yes all the time like she actually has to learn to interact with people again you're right it could be good for her I like it and she's getting therapy from Dorinda. So off camera.

That can only go well. Okay. I am looking at the questions on our page before we move on to Secrets and Wives. Okay. I'd also love to hear you talk about Secrets and Wives Daytime Drag Show. Okay. We'll get there. You know what? I'm going to go to For Crying Out Loud on Facebook see because i think your guys answered or asked some questions too today so what is your

what are your general thoughts on um secrets and wives well like i said it took me a while or maybe i said before we started the podcast to figure out who is who, actually. But because so many of them just look like somebody. I know you guys have said this, but Corey looks like Tamara. Uh-huh. Right? Yeah, she has Tamara face for sure. Right. And then Gail looks like Camille.

Mm-hmm. And then Liza looks like Jessica Simpson. Oh, she does. She does look like a retired jessica simpson yes like an older slightly more manly jessica simpson although you don't even need the slightly more manly she just kind of looks like an older jessica simpson to me oh she does actually that's very good and who else is on this one that looks like someone else um susan looks like joe looks like juicy joe from real housewives of new jersey i think they all look like dolls made out of paper bag

mache with blonde wigs like straw wigs i it's i mean it's so odd that they got a show because i just feel like it's just a watered down version of every other show that they already have. Yeah. But I do think in a weird way it's cool because this is like how all these other women would be if they had no filter and if we really saw real people. I loved, honestly, some of the scenes where they're around a pool and just in their bathing suits because I was like, yeah, that's what real people look like. None of them actually have like Real Housewives bodies. Yeah, I guess they don't really. They all had kind of some belly spillage and some cellulite hanging out the back.

And I was like, good. That's what people really look like. Yeah, they're going to. What was I going to say? They would be horrified if they heard this because Because they still look really good, I think. But, yeah, you're right. I mean, on Real Housewives of New York, they're starving. They're all really hungry and really skinny.

Yeah, see, I don't think they look good. Whoops. Sorry. My phone's ringing onto my. Oh, I hate that. When it rings on your computer and your phone and the iPad or whatever, the Apple TV. It's like, Jesus, Apple, you're already all over my life. Stay out of it.

Yep. So I'm looking at things on your page. And there are some good secrets in wives' things. I'm looking at these questions. We talked about Brandy already. And as far as Brandy's new show for this question, my guess is that that will be some e-show that will be on twice. I can't imagine her having a show.

Yeah. And then there was a question for you. Who do you like better, Megan or – is it Megan or Kristen? Oh. Whose side are you on, Megan's or Shannon's? Just a quick OC. Well, I'm on – I mean, I'm for sure on Megan's side just because I can't. I mean, Shannon, I can't.

She makes you nuts. I can't with Shannon. Yeah. I mean, she is insane and I feel so bad for David. David. David. David. David.

David, you looked away. You broke eye contact. David. David. Do we need counseling? Do we need an emergency session if you were a dog this would mean i need to send you to training david i mean to keep eye contact david keep out david right your eyes are wandering david david david david david do you guys hear a car starting david he's gone he's gone i'm on shannon's side because i know she's wrong and I know she's crazy

and I love it I think it's so funny to watch and Megan's just being a bitch she's being too much of a bitch I think that Shannon is being crazy and she's in the wrong on this fight she was rude to Megan but Megan's not letting it go

she's making too big of a deal out of it because she needs a storyline who can blame her she's like if they watch me shopping one more time in a thrift store She's making too big of a deal out of it. Because she needs a storyline. Who can blame her? Yeah. Well, yeah, I know. She's like, if they watch me shopping one more time in a thrift store to replace things that the other wives left at the house, I would be fired. I'm going to start a fight with an old lady. By the way, Amy was saying that she didn't think she did a good Megan and it was perfect. Amy does a perfect.

I know that was exciting. We got the first Megan impersonation on this show. Yeah, it was it was perfect. Megan's and Megan's Amy's impersonations are so, so good. It was so funny listening or I didn't listen to it, but just being with her doing the good ones while I do the bad ones because I was like wow I need to make Amy into a dialect tape and just be with me all the time so I can learn because that shit's great yeah but I think

one of the things that's great about your show is that you they're just caricatures they're just funny yeah Amy I like what she said about how she tries to keep it positive and stuff because she's really I've never really been able to do positive humor. My humor comes from being snarky and sarcastic. And Amy's just comes from such a sweet place.

And she really does make you laugh just being nice. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah. She's like the Bill Cosby of our age. Just kidding. Okay. So another question is a Secrets and Wives thing. And we don't have to go blow-by-blow through Secrets and Wives

because I think this is already like an hour and a half. So we can just go through it. The main issues are the basic... I'll just read this comment from Tara. This is from Tara Diamond Kuhl. Or Kuhl. Oh, I love Tara. This is from Tara Diamond Kuhl, or Kuhl. Oh, I love Tara. Yeah, so Tara says,

Susan and Amy from Secrets and Wives need codependency therapy. The way they defend these total asswipes is really sad and sick. Amy needs some serious personal growth. At least Susan is somewhat strong in certain areas of her life, but poor Amy is just a wet and new deal. Yes, agreed. I mean, it's crazy. It is so sad watching it,

but this show, and Ben and I have talked about this before, so sorry if I'm repeating, but the thing about this show is that there is definitely an element of sadness to it because on the other shows, yes, a lot of the housewives bang men for their money and yes a lot of them are only married to superstars because they're rich and yes they're obsessed with

narcissistic you know like bad boob jobs and they've got a lot in common but the thing about this north shore is that these women their entire lives are built around what some dude thinks of them because they will not get a job. All of them are so codependent. They depend on their husbands for everything. And then they wonder why the husband's a dick. Yeah. You know, the husband's a dick because he pays for everything. OK.

I know it is. It's it is sad. It's sort of like just a ghetto version of the other Real Housewives shows. It is. Yeah, it is. It's ghetto Housewives. But this one just really makes me sad. This Amy girl, she's dating Arthur, the dentist, who's yelled at her. Like his first scene was just screaming at her on camera for no reason in a scene that he wasn't even in outside a coffee shop in public so that's embarrassing and then just the way the way they all talk to her and

try to do the intervention on her and the way she constantly just goes you know what are you gonna do i love him i love him you don't know you don't know the passion when we're alone i mean she's really and then at one point she goes, I know I sound like she's kind of laughing. I know I sound like an abused woman. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Well, they have the front intervention. So this for those of you who don't watch, they all go to Fire Island for the weekend.

And it was a funny episode. But the main meat of it, just so we're not here as long as Les Mis, they are having a front-of-vention for Amy. Because Amy's in, at least we know, an emotionally abusive relationship and won't get out of it. So they're having this front-of-vention with her. And these women are so fucking funny because they're all such hypocrites. Oh, my God. Especially Susan. Susan's like, yeah, well, I don't like how he treats you.

I mean, look at how he treats you. I mean, he's awful. You know, she's. Especially Susan. Susan's like, yeah, well, I don't like how he treats you. I mean, look at how he treats you. I mean, he's awful. You know, she's not even sick. She's pretending that she's sick so she doesn't have to come here because he probably beat her. You know, she didn't say that, but she's kind of alluding to that. Right, right. You know, it's like, did he punch her in the stomach? Is that a stomachache?

I'm like, okay, stop. But they're kind of all giving her shit about being codependent. And then she shows up and immediately they notice her new ring because i have to finally bought me a new ring you know when you don't try and get someone in a used ring that means that they really love you it was new the worst is that that was her biggest problem with the relationship was that it was the wrong ring. Yeah. She wanted a new one.

You gave that one to me and then we got in a fight. So that ring is tainted. I need a new ring if you really love me. He loves me, Arthur. And then the other ladies are like, well, how do you really feel? I mean, you know, how does it feel when he's abusive to you? And then she's like, well, it feels awful. But he's such an amazing man.

You don't know him. You don't know the passion when we're alone. He's an amazing man. No one who's ever been alone with him in a dentist office has ever accused him of giving them a used ring or being mean to them at a coffee shop. He's very different in real life. You guys have to look. You have to see. When he's not hitting me or verbally abusing me

or throwing things at me or telling me I'm a horrible person, then he's an amazing man. You would all want to ring from Arthur if you knew him. One time, Arthur sent me a really romantic card it was a used car lease for a volkswagen he even signed it he loves me one time um author came over to my house and he took me to the grocery store because he told me to make him some fucking dinner bitch and it was so romantic that he came with me to the store whenever we go out for a romantic meal i order make me fucking dinner

bitch and they never have it and we laugh and laugh and then susan's across the way like oh that's disgusting who treats who treats women like that oh just leave him and then meanwhile then we get to susan who in the last episode and the beginning of this one's like yeah fuck you bitch yeah lice is a slut yeah go fuck yourself you're stupid bitches you're dumb you're a bunch of sligs it's like oh my god and then and then his excuse is, well, he's joking, right? He's just being funny. And also, because I don't want to fucking hear about your fucking stupid ass spas. Your eyelash extensions.

Shut the fuck up. Oh, no. I knew Liza when she was in school. She was just slut then like she's a slut now. They're like, that's so disrespectful. You shouldn't talk about a woman like that women have their own brains oh yeah i can't fuck a brain so fuck them flags i'm like oh my god with this guy you're all a bunch of cunts yeah i said it all yous are a bunch of

cunts shut the fuck up pretty much he keeps doubling down like he's just on a tirade and he just keeps going and then i love the spin on it though okay susan's spin her spin through the whole show hold on i wrote down spin because i have to talk about this part when they're driving home from the party they've basically been kicked out so they're driving home from the party he's falling asleep because he's so wasted and she's like i can't believe you acted like that he's like acted like what like well you were so rude he's like i wasn't rude at all i thought it was fun and she's like you're horrible but we are in a call i'm gonna give you a blowjob pull into that mcdonald's like this couple what is wrong with this couple what is wrong with them okay spin spin spin her spin yes whole time, the whole later on,

Susan just keeps saying, well, he apologized. He doesn't, he's just being funny. It's his sense of humor. He's just, it's the North Shore. We have a different sense of humor on the North Shore. And then Corey's like, no, actually. Well, who said, she said, oh, they were saying, well, what did arthur do what what

happened at this party with arthur oh not arthur with jonathan and uh susan's like oh you know jonathan he had a little too much to drink and then before you know it he says you just out loud and they said to who and she's like oh to everybody you know just like a general you to everybody and then coreory's like uh actually uh that was to me she's like no it wasn't i thought it was to me and you she's like no really because oh cory says well cory says and it made me cry it made me cry you know i mean i was crying and then susan says well you know in his defense you cry a lot. Oh, yes. Oh, Lord.

Yeah, you cry a lot. And Corey, then Corey tells us, she's like, what is with these women? Okay, they have these men. They're just standing up for them. It's like they're completely ignoring everything that their men are doing. I'm like, says the woman who just talked about how many women's phone numbers she doesn't know in her man's cell phone and then pretended that it was just because he likes men equally as women. Shut up. You're all crazy. And he's gross to Corey's husband.

The spot. Yeah. Who did nothing when this guy's yelling. Fuck you. I wouldn't either. I mean, the guy's been to prison. Which. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Corey's like, what does he think this is? Does he think this dinner party is prison? Next thing you know, he's going to punch out the maid's teeth and make a given blowjob. You know, English is bad enough as it is. I'm not going to have that. I'm going inside. Jeez.

By the way, I'm sorry I said the C word, but I felt like since you're not allowed to say it, I was going to have to make up for it. It's one of my favorite words. I got a C word boner when you said it. You know I love that word. I've been pretty good, though. I've only said it once, I think, in five weeks. I love it. I don't understand why women – Okay.

A funny thing that was making me laugh on the show was Gail. I just can't – I already can't stand her. I mean, she's so ridiculous. But I loved when she was, there was a scene where they get there and she's like, what is this place? I have to carry my own bags? Yeah. And I'm wearing flats? What kind of a place do I carry my own bags and have to wear flats?

flats and they sit down at dinner and she's like well you know this is the first time i've been anywhere without my husband because i don't believe in it and this is the first time i've done something for me and here i am i'm here with you guys i'm doing something for me and my husband with his business and the way he works and And then she talks about her husband for 20 minutes. Right. Because it's not about you at all. And then she goes up to the dinner and pours out all the oil. And she's like, you don't need this. You guys don't need to eat this. I'm saving you.

This is bad. How are you going to find someone who looks like Danny DeVito to take care of you the rest of your life if you're eating a pot of oil? No, it's going down the sink. And she looks like she weighs 29 pounds. She's got like the crazy madam cheekbones. And she's like, you don't need any oil. Okay, then this is what I also love. So they're going to go to this drag show, right?

And then Gail says, Gail who's like appalled at everybody's horrible relationships says um well i i have to go because i have to go be with my husband and then he says part of our relationship that works is that i don't do anything ever that doesn't involve my husband that's what works for us pretty much like that's how it works he has an event i'm going back for the event because that's how it works i go to his event. Our relationship is not built on him going to events without me. If I'm not there to make sure all those girls are wearing white blazers, they're going to come out of the woodwork and start fucking Danny. And I'm not going to have it.

All right. And how many how many marriages have they all had? They're all on like their second or third marriage, right? I think she's on her second. Liza's just finished her third. Andy has had, no wait, that's not true. I think Liza, this was her first or second. Andy is the one who's had three, I think.

And Andy's also the one who's always like, you know, I just can't deal with this Amy drama anymore. But every time she sees amy she's like are you okay tell me about your husband or tell me about the author and uh she's always the one who's like i couldn't take it i mean look at all we're gonna have a front of pension for amy because i wouldn't take it i'm like you've been divorced three times i don't think you're the one to be giving advice on what you won't take. I mean, none of them are in the position where they should be giving advice and intervening on the abusive boyfriends.

But I love later Amy tells Susan to tell her husband to tone it down a bit. Do you remember that part? No. Amy said that? Yeah. part no amy said that yeah amy amy who's now engaged to arthur who's like the worst guy on the show yeah tell susan you gotta tell john to tone it down a bit yeah that's what then susan says oh he's just being funny that's his sense of humor you all need to come to my sons he's turning five and i'm having a birthday party and there's going to be a petting zoo

and a donkey. This is real. She goes to a petting zoo and a donkey. And I want you all to come. I want everyone to come and see what a great dad John is. Because you only see him when he's calling everybody a cunt. You don't see him when he... Look, it's more normal in my family.

Okay? Jonathan's a very nice person you know so he says fuck off to women all the time who cares i mean my my youngest child tells me to fuck off that's how we do it i want you to come to this five-year-old's birthday party and you'll see the cake's gonna say fuck off five-year-old because that's how we do it's how we show our love i mean they're crazy what is wrong with these people and amy's like i understand i'm sticking up for you i understand good for you for sticking up for your man she's like listen all of you should be lucky to have a man who tells you to shut the fuck up and calls you a stupid whore it's how he he shows his love. He's affectionate. That's his way of being affectionate. You're all jealous.

You're all just jealous. Listen, when we wrote our own vows, I said, I love you, Jonathan. I do. And he said, go fuck yourself, C-word. I love you too. I mean, the end. I mean, happiness.

Am I right? If you can't understand that, maybe you don't understand love. That's that, maybe you don't understand love. That's your problem. You don't understand love. He's been in prison. Yeah, he might have picked up a few bad habits, but everybody has bad habits. Yeah.

You know? He's still trying to blow the gardener. So what? I mean, it's his life. It's his life's work. You know, love is a four-letter word, and so is fuck. Same numbers in the words. They're the same.

They're the same. They're like, that's not the same at all. It is. I'm going to the bathroom. Like, oh, God. So she gets up to go to the bathroom, and Amy's like, guys, that wasn't nice. She was just trying to stick up for her man. And then it's the two codependent bitches in the bathroom.

And she's like, I like how you stick up for your man. Susan's like, bathroom and she's like I like how you stick up for your man Susan's like I know right I like how you stick up for your I mean you should dump your man though because he's so but you know still hugs hugs right yeah you know our men tell people to shut the fuck up and they tell us to shut the fuck up and you know what sometimes

we might need a corrective that's all I'm saying like sometimes we're shooting off our mouth and somebody needs to tell us to shut the fuck up. I mean, we need to ask ourselves, could I be doing better? You know? Could I be doing better?

Yeah, that's Amy too. She's like, oh, you know, it's fighting. You know, it's because I need to change too. We both need to change. I keep running into doors. He doesn't like it. You know how hard it is to tell the maid in Spanish to clean the blood off a door?

And Cory's like, Google Translate. It's political Google Translate. That's all you need. This show is crazy. Oh, and Susan's really hypocritical other than because of why we just said, but not only is her man abusive,

when they were talking about amy earlier susan was like oh god her man is horrible i mean he's not even generous because i asked how much money he gives her nothing i mean and they're like oh he's very generous she's got a used vw she's like oh whatever that's not generous her father is generous like oh my god these women they're so awful it's just awful watching them but it's hard to look away it is hard i read an article i think someone posted this on our facebook but it was an article it was an interview of susan an interview with susan and they were saying so susan you know you've all the women are mad at your husband and this and that what was your life like what was it like being married to someone in prison she's like well we actually

met like a day before he went to prison and then i waited for him and it wasn't a day but she had just met him i think they had been dating for like two weeks oh my god something crazy or like a month and he told her i'm going to prison bitch and she's like i won't wait so she just waited for him so they're the whole beginning of their relationship was while he was in prison and then the first time i guess they did it with or one of the first times they did it was the blow job in the mcdonald's parking lot on the way home from prison when you know he still smelled like yesterday's penis like that couldn't have been good i know i didn't know that i i didn't know that but it is funny how she keeps also defending why he went to jail it's like it was just a little financial thing he just like you know he he fell on someone else's money and

then he got accused of taking it he didn't take it he was just covering it by accident because he fell on it but you gotta love the women on this show because they're like, oh, well, you know who did mind it? The people whose money he stole because they're still poor. And she's like, you make more money. You know, they can ask the husband for $20. I have an $80 million business. Okay. I understand.

Oh, this woman is crazy. Oh, and she's just with the, can't these women just be happy for me and stop judging oh and then the other big thing and then we'll end the show i promise you but the other big thing that happened was susan finally confronted gail they're all having this nice dinner and everything's great and gail's about to leave to go see her husband's event or whatever and uh susan's like well i'd like to say gail's always mean to me the end and gail's like i have never been mean to you she's like yes you do you called me trash all i'm trying to do is be nice like when we see each other at spin class i say hi and then remember that time i tried to get you a discount on jewelry she said that and then gail's like i have never been mean to you i heard

last july you were saying awful things about me so in july i said that's it i'm not fake and that's it it's been since july and susan's like i never said that right and then gail's like i'm not a phony person and then during this little scene that you're talking about somebody says somebody says oh we all talk shit about each other it's a north shore everybody talks shit about each other on the north shore that's what we do liza liza is like we all talk shit you talk shit oh i talk shit we all talk shit who cares and then later at the next meal because everything's at a meal the next meal because everything's at a meal the next meal lies is like oh you know what i want to talk about your husband susan like she's the

one who starts it like are you gonna be the mature one or not you've got to remember which angle you're going for here lady okay and then but after the thing where uh where she confronts gail or susan confronts gail one of the dudes that they're staying with just goes like pops up with the head bandana. And he goes, well, can you get along with this Gail? Could you click with this Gail? You couldn't click with the other Gail. But can you click with this Gail, honey? And then they all look at Susan and she's like, yes.

Yeah, because she's the one who's always wanted to be friends. She's like, I guess I could try to click with her. You're the one who's always wanted to be friends she's like i guess i could try to click with her you are the one trying anyway meanwhile gail's looks like she's gonna barf the nothing she just ate she's like oh my god please wait and before we before we wrap we do have to talk about that drag show because what was up with the the stand-up comedy and then he's like uh well if you're not going to be able to take a joke you're you're in the wrong place or something he's basically going you're a fucking asshole the drag queen is worse than john he's just like you guys are fucking assholes yeah i'm

kidding i'm kidding it's a drag show yeah it's like but at least i want you drag uh the drag show i guess that was for TV. Like, maybe you'll hear things you don't like. Please don't beat up a gay person because of this one drag show in Fire Island. Okay? They're like, oh, drag show. I can't believe that Gail was not at that drag show to try and get some future business drummed up. I mean, girl, if you're business partners with your husband, which is a lie, I can't believe she didn't go.

She could have been handing out implant coupons or something. I mean, you are dropping the ball, girl. It's true. And then they do the catwalk thing. They have a catwalk contest. And then for no reason, they all start square dancing, which turns into dancing the hora to Hava Nagila. Did you see that? I mean, they're square dancing. Why to Hava Nagila. Did you see that? I mean, they're square dancing.

Why? I don't know. I don't understand. That's how we do it in the North Shore. We square dance. We don't just dance. We dance like a Jew at his bar mitzvah. That's how we do it in the North Shore.

If someone throws a dollar on the floor and you get to pick it up, it's an added bonus. As long as we're all men in the eyes of God now. If you have an extra dollar, you have to give it to my husband. My husband, John, or he'll tell you to shut the fuck up and give me your fucking money. Shut

the fuck up. I wish Jonathan was there to scream for the drag queens to shut the fuck up, have his tongue cut off, and shut up his cornhole like he deserves, little oh my god and that brings us we made it you know this is almost a two once i add um all my talking and commercials in the beginning this will be over two hours long you did it it's a record yeah um not for us but for a guest, yes. I didn't have to go eat a Subway sandwich like Heather McDonald. I loved that. I loved that.

Heather McDonald did not know what to do with us. My husband Peter's here. He has a Subway for me. I got to go. You're like, really? And she's like, yeah. That was so funny. I met her in real life that week.

Or like the next week or something at Leah Black's book signing party thing. I was hanging out with Amy and I guess Amy's friends. Amy's friends with everybody, that girl. So I talked to her and I said, oh, I'm Ronnie from the thing. And she's like, oh, you guys are funny. But it was fun talking to her in real life. She is like that in real life. I really like her.

Yeah, I used to be friends with her. I mean, I'm still friendly with her, but we used to do stand-up together many years ago. People give that woman a lot of crap. Some of our comments and tweets and stuff after that were like, I really didn't like having to listen to that Republican conservative blah, blah, blah. Which, I mean, I like being friends with people who are nothing like me. For the arguments alone. It's always something different than you're hearing from your other friends.

Like that week was the week I saw her, I guess, was like two weeks after the Bruce Jenner, Caitlyn thing. And she was saying, you know, no one stands up for Kris Jenner. And I thought that was the funniest thing. We were laughing so hard. She's like, all my friends, everyone got mad at me for saying it but I'll say it no one stands up for no one stands up for the wife I mean look at Chris you know that's got to be so hard and Amy was like oh I don't know you know we just kind of laughed and I said I feel sorry for Chris because she's been managing this loser for years and he's finally made money and she got fired like if you're gonna feel sorry for her feel for that.

Right. But it was just like a different kind of point of view on it. So I liked her. I don't know. Well, she was funny on your show. Yeah, she was good. I was laughing out loud. She's really, really funny. And I love talking to anybody who actually knows the people that we're talking about.

Oh, yeah. I love that. Yeah, I love the little insight. She's like, well, I was just at dinner with tamra and blah blah you know right i know she did she had a little juicy gossip i can't remember what it was but there were some i don't remember either yeah it was something good i think she said david and chan and we're still together or something but anyway she's i really liked her uh i just have so much fun doing this this is really great because i am a home body shut in and this is how i make new friends and i really have it's really worked

yeah it's really fun because we could we would totally be friends in real life oh my god i think about you all the time i think about hanging out with you guys if i ever left my house i would go meet you guys yeah call us we'll go have a drink or something i mean when when you're on your fourth divorce call us we'll be your gays in the meantime oh man you're not getting maintenance blowjobs to your husband i was talking about on this show i love that oh my god well you know when you're not going to talk about parenting because you have a sex expert you got got to talk about sex. Yeah. Married sex is a little bit different.

The maintenance blowjob while you're watching the housewives. I was. I know. I was. Listen, I was exaggerating for the sake of comedy a little bit, but I have done it. Loved it. I mean, if you're going to try and get your husband to watch a housewives with you, that's how to do it. Exactly. People are always actually someone named Jutz just asked that on our Facebook.

She said, how am I supposed to get my men or how am I supposed to get my boyfriend to watch the show with me? And I forgot that beautiful piece of advice. Give him a blowjob during it. Right. You can just listen. You don't really need to see it. You know what they all look like. Thank you so much for being here.

Thank you for having me. And it's time. Ben and I will actually be doing For Crying Out Loud at their live show August 25th at, is it at Tin Horn Flats again? You know what? You found out before me. Oh, you didn't know? No. Oh, yeah. We're doing doing your show i thought we talked about it somewhat maybe it was well i said to you no i talked to patrick and he said for sure but we he that he thought it would be a good idea for us all to do it together

and i was like yeah that's fantastic but he didn't tell me a date oh yeah he hooked it up so it's august 25th at tin horn flats in hollywood if there's a change i mean just check our things we'll tell you but um i'm so excited that's my 40th birthday okay is it really yeah that night is my 40th birthday and my mom was like you're gonna spend your 48th your 40th birthday doing a podcast with like ronnie and i was like listen that's where i get to say the c word and nobody gets mad at me that's where i get to say the c word and nobody gets mad at me that's where i get to be a horrible human being and people are like nice to me for it why the hell would i go out with my friends i'm doing that agreed can't wait so come see us

because that's going to be so much fun and we'll all be there all four of us will be there so that's august 25th at ten horn flats ben and i are trying to put together a live show in austin for either july 24th or july 25th but we cannot find a space so if anybody knows of a space in austin please let us know on twitter or whatever you can find stephanie and the for crying out loud podcast on twitter at ace moms their podcast obviously is for crying out loud they're also on facebook they have a great facebook page there's a lot of interaction there um and we do too so come to our facebooks theirs is at for crying out loud and ours is at watch what crap ends and don't worry i'll put your

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