Watch What Crappens - #2205 Southern Charm Part 2: Bad Nudes Travels Fast

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

JT hosts a dinner party in his new event space on Southern Charm (S09E07), and group comes together to have civilized conversation.  Just kidding! They corner Taylor for sending nude pic...s!Get all our video recaps and bonuses at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to WatcherCrapins, a podcast about all that crap on Brava that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me is the one only Mr. Ronnie Karen. We are in the middle of our Southern Charm Recap. Part 1 was earlier on the feed if you missed it. Be sure to subscribe to WatcherCrapins because that way you'll have all the episodes on your podcast player. So go check out part one first and if you've already finished part one or you just feel
Starting point is 00:00:49 like being a rebel, here comes part two. Thanks so much, everyone. So then we go to Craig and he so we're in the getting ready segment right where everyone is getting ready. So he calls page and he's like, Hey, I wanted you to like tell me how to dress Charleston preppy. Um, basically just imagine what I would consider absolutely hideous and break up with you over and put that on. Um, just imagine something that would make me never want to move to your city. And that's what you wear. Listen, if I were on survivor and I learned how to make a fire,
Starting point is 00:01:27 what would I burn? Where that? Where's something that would get you arrested by Anna Wentor at Fashion Week and she doesn't even have, she doesn't even have that power but she would suddenly immediately get it. That's what you should wear. He's like, I don't know why I have two pink blazers. She's like, meaning they're stupid. I would do blue. Actually, I would do black and also be in New York City, ideally. So then Taylor is putting on her non-sweater, which is probably very difficult for her. So she's like, I look like a stripper
Starting point is 00:01:58 on the way to a business meeting. God, can I please wear an in-it sweater, turtle neck? So then let's see here. Taylor's face timing and Taylor is face timing Austin. And he's in a trough. Oh, I'm staying right now. A trough pop shirt. And he says that Whitney's going to bring him some clothes because he just wants to wear a pillow
Starting point is 00:02:24 that he can pop the collar on Don't you have that why are you guys acting like you've never heard of this theme before you dress like this theme every day Yeah, I know that they're they're so befuddled by just like their gym clothes. That's basically what they're wearing so You know Sears are suits because you know, that's what they wear to like LA fitness So then Taylor's like, I think Olivia's excited to see everyone and to get out of the house. And I was like, have you been talking too much?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Well, Venita invited us over, but I wanted to make sure that Olivia felt comfortable with everyone who's there. And so I kind of voiced a little bit to Venita. And she's like, Taylor, it sounds like your emotions are all over the to all over the place. And I was like, what? And she's like, I don't think it's a good idea for you to come over today. And I was like, shut the fuck up, you fucking bitch.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I'm not my emotions are not all over the place. It was pretty cool. She, yeah, she just says that Vanita says don't come. It's not a good idea for you to come over. And I was like, that is fucking ridiculous. She, yeah, she just says that Vinyi just says don't come. It's not a good idea for you to come over and also it's like that. It's fucking ridiculous. Like you don't know if one of her best friends should be there for her in the absolute moment of me.
Starting point is 00:03:32 So what do you think about this? I thought that, I mean, I can say why they would say that. Like maybe it's not good since you just got caught lying to Olivia. But I also think like, here's what I, she has been her best friend and her brother just died. I think like this stuff of Austin being a dirt bag kind of would go to the side, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I personally, I think it should have been like kind of like an oh, like it should have been like yeah, come on over, we all need to support her. But what I thought was kind of fucked up was that it seemed like they didn't want the Olivia there. And then Venita took that phone call from, I'm not a Olivia Taylor. Venita took that phone call from Taylor. And Venita is like, yeah, well, I think your emotions are really all over the place, so maybe
Starting point is 00:04:19 don't come. And then Leva took the phone out of Venita's hands. It was like, just come, just come. So it really undermined Venita and made a Venita look really like the shittier person, even though it was both her and Leva who had decided that she shouldn't come. And I think that Venita should have said,
Starting point is 00:04:35 I think Venita should have been more honest and said, listen, I'm not sure, considering the place that you and Olivia are in right now, I don't know if it's that may do more harm than good for this moment, but ultimately I would have just invited her. But I think they should have just said, you know, Olivia is coming over. Let me just ask her if she's okay with it because I don't want to make her feel weird. Oh yeah, that's a great look at that.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Why is why do any why does any that's really good besides her get to decide yeah about Taylor I'm just saying if Vanita if Vanita was gonna say anything she should have she should have just been more direct rather than saying well Your emotions are all over the place because it's like what does that mean? I mean, we know what it means But like just say just say like be the be a reality star in that moment I'm an tailor of course responded like well I think that her, you know, she says something like, well, I guess her real, you know, what she really means is people that she's known the longest to be there, you know, like she said something like that,
Starting point is 00:05:36 which is also kind of taken out of context later. But of course nobody repeats the story is exactly how they happened, but you know what I didn't like actually? I didn't like Austin's reaction where he's like, that's fucking ridiculous. Yeah, you're like, you're one of the best friends. That's fucking ridiculous. How many events has Austin Icevanita out of over the past three years? So many times Vanita has been like, left out. I'm not saying like, oh, because Vanita is so amazing, but she has been left out. And now Taylor gets like, there's one thing for Taylor
Starting point is 00:06:06 and Austin, suddenly all outraged when Vinita is constantly pushed to the side for this cast. Well, Austin also is the one who fucked everyone over in the situation. He made out with Olivia's best friend, then told the best friend not to say anything, then said something on his own. He of course is the one causing all these problems.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And he knew that it probably wasn't good to go to Taylor's event because Olivia would be there and he didn't want to make her uncomfortable. And that was before anyone had even passed away. So for him to act all like indignant now, like shut up. Yes. Shut up as usual. As usual, the answer is shut up. So Shepa up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up., what's going on? It's quiet in here. I can't believe I'm first, but I just need to say how the streets in case Taylor splashed me with another
Starting point is 00:07:10 puddle. Sorry, guys, I was on the Titanic. I felt like I was back at the Mekong Delta in the Vietnam War. You should really watch the documentary. So are you gonna try and lead me on the way to Oz? Are we gonna party, buddy? JT is like, welcome, welcome to my party space. He's like, I remember this space. This used to be that late night spot as I recall. And he's like, yeah, it was a speak easy in COVID, because we weren't allowed to party, remember? Just, yeah, I remember. I think I might have been there with some young ladies
Starting point is 00:07:50 if I'm remembering correctly. And he's like, I mean, maybe, ah, ah, maybe not. Gosh, what did I see that, JT's like, well, I didn't call you out on that because you know, I was trying to help you out there, buddy. And it's like, no, no, no, no, it couldn't be true because I had a girlfriend. I don't cheat.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I definitely didn't go to a speak easy with some girls. I'm like, the fact that you were in a speaker's lap is just so fucking hilarious. You know, it's like, wow, you have an embarrassed Taylor enough. Do it some more on camera. I can be dick. You're at a speak easy. You know, it's like, wow, you have an embarrassed tailor enough. Do it some more on camera. You dick. You're at a speak easy. You're already cheating the law. Don't act like you weren't cheating your girlfriend too. So JT is telling us like, wow, I mean, shop, how do you throw that? Ketch back out to see because if I caught that beautiful catch, I'd never let her out of the boat. It's like Jesus. You're so creepy. How are you taking, you know, how are you taking the phrase?
Starting point is 00:08:55 What a catch and making it so fucking creepy, dude. Taylor's like a big beautiful tuna sustainably raised taste great. It's surprisingly larger than you would think. If I caught that catch, I'd smack it on the head and throw it in a nice bucket until I was ready to eat. So, and then when I take it in for a weigh- in and I got the prize, I got the best tuna. They would gut it and see that. I didn't put any pebbles in it.
Starting point is 00:09:31 To forge that weight. It's never seen. Lost in the metaphor. Just now I'm just thinking about winning the fishing competition. The fuck are you doing? Now I just want to win something. I want to be an angler. I want to win them all.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Oh fuck. I saw a video once, no, because my parents are out to go because I'm caffeinated. I saw a video once. It was the funniest thing. This guy won a fishing competition. But it was like a big deal. It was like $250,000.
Starting point is 00:10:07 But then the judges found like we're inspecting the fish. They're like, wait a second. And I think reaching to the fish and they were like pebbles or something, they were like weights to make the fish seem like it was heavier. And they're like, God. This man cheated. And they held up the weights.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And then all the fishermen are being like, boom, you're a cheater. You're a cheater. Cheater and they held up the held up the weights and then all the fishermen are being like You're a cheater. You're a cheater. It was like a mob of fishermen being you're a cheater You're a cheater. You're a cheater. And it was like this really Amazing video that I loved just angry fishermen stones only fishermen So I'm gonna get that catch. So Craig comes and basically it's a bunch of arrivals, right? Everyone starts coming and then Whitney comes in this mustard yellow suit. Wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And it looks like a joke. Like wait, maybe he's doing this to be disco-y. Her Madison's even like, wow, disco much. And he goes up. Actually, I have the suit made over the summer in Italy. Bunka, bunka. It's very, yeah, it's very monster. It's very, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Craig's like, I wanted to wear pink, but my, but page said that my cheeks are too rosy. And then she also said, I'm actually really dumb. And she said, honestly, all you do is so squares and stuff, things in the middle of them. Like, why would I move to Charleston for that? It was pretty cool. I like when Craig saw Whitney Sutton, he goes, what's the guy from Curious George's name? The guy who had to like catch George all the time.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Well, there he is. Where's his hat? Where's his monkey? So then, Venita and Madison go over to talk privately. Madison's like, let's talk by the mayor. So we can look at our sales while we talk, she is. Okay, here we are. Time for our little talk show,
Starting point is 00:11:58 beta talk with Madison Venita, where we talk about the latest news from the betas in our group. So Venita's like, she's like, well, the whole situation with Olivia and her brother, I mean, we had a powwow with, with like me and her and Leva and just a letter at the house. And then Taylor calls me and she's like, I'm sorry. I think that Olivia needs real friends around her. I'm not saying, we have friends.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Okay, that's not exactly what happened. Okay, that is not. She didn't just randomly call her out of the blue and say she needs her real friends. She said that after you told her she wasn't allowed to come. Yeah, so just to be fair. So then Madison's like real friends. Well, you were just kissing the guy she likes. And if Taylor was trying to be protective over Olivia, she's too fucking light. So I think she should fuck up about talking about Vindika because Vindika is not over there trying to Mack on her buffering
Starting point is 00:12:47 And another thing Taylor don't you ever lay hands in my son again. It's like whoa Madison so She got a lot of displays anger so or misplaced I should say words matter So Madison says to be holier than now. She's practice not practicing what she put, she what she breaches, but she was also sending new to waiting there. I said it. So Vanita just like, can't, but we need to just starts cracking up. She's like
Starting point is 00:13:12 turns around and walks away and laughs and mess like, yeah, but you should tell me the church. It told me and then we see it two weeks ago. And then there's a new photographs. She's sitting with me, but we're not talking about that Reminds me of that book tinka Taylor soldier slut so
Starting point is 00:13:34 Cuz Taylor's in the title so Taylor enters Are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay? I feel like you're trying to push me into retirement. Never. I'm going to see if I can break him. I'm going to break him today. Listen, it's not my fault. It's the fruit fly.
Starting point is 00:13:58 You're under siege. It's the fruit. I'm happy. I'm sitting here. I'm in it. I got my ass off the lost that'll from laughing to me. Okay, so Taylor comes over and JT's like Taylor dreams have come true. Okay, JT You're never gonna get it never gonna get it never gonna get it never gonna get it never gonna get it never gonna get it
Starting point is 00:14:18 Never gonna get it. Oh, oh, oh, oh, you're not in Vogue so Oh, oh, oh, oh, you're not in Vogue. So, um, yeah, so if any of the, where are we? What's happening? Singing in Vogue now. Okay, there's Bunny. Bunny's like, honey, you're just like that couch, not in Vogue. Okay, please stop. Give him something she can't feel.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Um, so why were we talk? Why were we, why just did this? I think yesterday. Okay. So why were we talking? Why were we just did this, I think yesterday. Okay. So anyway, Taylor, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. So Taylor tells Whitney, wow, Whitney, I didn't think you knew you owned anything other than black. And she makes a hug rounds while Madison
Starting point is 00:14:58 goes dirty blitz friend the corner. She's like, I need a great feel. Huh. And so Taylor comes up to her and Vina at the bar and she's like, how about it? He's you're looking good. And they just kind of feel like, hello, they're super cool. Yeah. Yeah. Vina is like, well, I mean, what am I supposed to do at this point? I mean, if you're not going to make attempts and efforts to be a good friend, I'm tired of trying. So, weren't they fine at the end of that episode
Starting point is 00:15:22 when Taylor came over? I thought everything went okay. I thought so I don't know But you know, I'm just happy that Venita has some sort of storyline happening even if it's a little rickety So Craig's like wow, hey, so JT became the most popular guy in quarantine because he had all these parties and JT's like Thank you Craig and he helps spread coronavirus around Charleston Yeah, it's our own variants called the bunny variant from my mom. She's great. It's called mommy. You never wanted to leave you. Kind of helps in your life actually. And Craig's like, yeah, well Charleston also has its own variant of other things like club media and Taylor goes
Starting point is 00:16:06 what do they call it the chuck town clap Madison is so bad she just turns the video because like I said hey to Hayden so leva comes and hugs hugs rod comes livia comes everybody Olivia comes, sorry everybody's hugging, and JT's like, so Taylor, do you have a valentine? No. Uh, well, are you dating anybody? She's like, no, I guess saying, she's like, yeah, um, I'm not really trying to jump into anything
Starting point is 00:16:40 right now, I'm good. So, so you're not interested in getting the Charles, the chuck town clap, if you know, I'm good. So. So you're not interested in getting the Charles, the chuck town clap if you know what I'm saying. You ever mad? I'm good. You ever thought about putting on some sort of costume that made you look like a bass?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Be kind of hot. Be real hot. Be real hot, you in a bass costume, oh yeah. Would you like to be with so many ways? 206 pounds. Are you weighted? Are you? If I, if I, if I sliced open your belly, would I find pebbles in there?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Okay, too dark. That's really dark. So if I could get you, if you could be my kid. Please, yeah, see if you can fit into that ass. See? Can you open a close your lips really quickly as if you're gasping for air, but it's not air, you're gasping for water instead. It's weird. I know, but just do it.
Starting point is 00:17:37 So we get a little part where Vinny is talking to Craig about going to Fashion Week because she has to leave tonight. And she's like, yeah, I'm supposed to go to Kate Spade a Kogaya Kogaya of course Kogaya from Blow Deck down under remember that girl was like She's like if she ruins my cold guy. I will never forgive her And she tells us as an influencer. I'm paid to go to Fashion Week for brands. I was like fascinating So then Austin and Olivia are chatting checking in and as an influencer, I'm paid to go to Fashion Week. Fabrics. I was like fascinating. Got fun. So then Austin and Olivia are chatting, checking in.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And Olivia's thing is saying game changer. That's her thing today. Quite literally. How are you doing? She's like, you know, I really can't thank y'all enough. We like y'all are game changer, really. Like you guys are game changers. Yeah, even just seeing all of you guys
Starting point is 00:18:24 sitting in your section at church and Austin goes, yeah, I said to Craig like quite literally, I was just like, I was like, let's stand right here and then she's gonna like shoot a glance over and she's gonna see all of the idiots standing in a pew and she's gonna laugh and she's gonna smile. Like congratulations, you came up with a brilliant plan to sit with your friends in a pew at a church,
Starting point is 00:18:43 at a funeral. I think I have to take credit for every little thing. And so then we got to Madison and Craig and Madison's like, well, I feel bad for a leavey, but I made their fine. So what do I care?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Because they're watching them talk. She's like, what do I care? She wants to hang out with Allison later. And Craig's like, well, she forgives them now, but unfortunately for a live, when she's in grief, she's going to remember all the bad shit. Like, Paige is usually fine with me, but the minute she starts crying, she starts screaming, why can't you open-can to me, those? She throws things at my head.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yeah, because the other thing is that like, when she moves, when Olivia moves into her next stage of grief the things that she's gonna feel is Hold on a second. Let me see. Hey page. What what was I supposed to say again? She's don't wear pink don't wear pink don't wear pink and pink is stupid Don't but the thing about Olivia you told me to say it sounds smart at the party. Oh shut up Craig. I'm over it. Shut up Craig. I'm over it It's time for commercial. It's time for a crappin' commercial. Watch what crappin' and winter is crappin'ing of a funniest recap broadcast. But if you want something more eerie, try the new podcast Go Story about my investigation into a murder suicide in my own family.
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Starting point is 00:20:57 and I'm like, wow, that sounds sort of insightful. I'm like, oh, this page set it. Yeah, cause he has something to say about every part of the relationship like He should absolutely not be there for Olivia right now, which of course he should be there He's like the person in the friend group who's gone through something similar, you know He's like 1,000 percent 1,000 percent. It's like you're just doing page now Craig. You're just saying page things So and percent. It's like you're just doing page now, Craig. You're just saying page things. So um, leva's like, leva comes out. Yeah, she's like, so what did I miss? Like, why are your
Starting point is 00:21:32 eyes super wide? Like, you want to tell me something? And if you need us like, well, I need to pull my hair back for this one. Okay. So Taylor is someone who chooses to be a Bible beater and a God worshipper and praise the Lord every Sunday, and then you turn around and send nudes to Whitney. And let us like, what? What? I really don't like the nude shaming. I don't like the nude picture. It bugs me. It kind of does bug me that she's sending nudes to Whitney just because he's like the boss of the show. It just bugs me that so many people go through Whitney to get on this show. I mean, someone said that in the comments and I thought that was like the perfect way to say, I just don't like that. I do think that there's some HR issues with just Whitney like banging people
Starting point is 00:22:16 on the cast. Not that he necessarily did her, but it's just gross. But so what? She's a lot to send nudes to people. And I don't think you're a lot to send around the needs and then shame, shame people. And I really don't like seeing the women shame the shame the woman. Well, I would yeah, almost expect not that it would be better from the men, but like I almost expect it from them. But I don't, it just bugs me, it's rubbing me the wrong way. You did the logic that I hate. I'm just kidding. I told you that was coming back. It's coming back in this time. But I have to say, I'm all for like hypocrisy shaming
Starting point is 00:22:48 and religious hypocrisy shaming. I have to say, I don't get a huge amount of proselytizing from Taylor. If she did, I'd probably more angry. I sort of get the feeling like these are the guidelines that she has for her life, but she doesn't seem to force them. As far as I can see, they may know more than we do. She doesn't seem to force some of other people.
Starting point is 00:23:06 So I don't necessarily have a problem with her having guidelines for her life, but then falling short. But yeah, it's weird. I, there's like a, I do honestly, I feel bad for Taylor, and I don't know if by me feeling bad for Taylor, I am now participating in some sort of patriarchal bullshit or whatever. But like I do feel like she fell for Shepp. I actually don't believe she fell for Shepp just to be on a TV show. I think she just fell for Shepp.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I think Shepp sold her a dream and we say, oh God, like Taylor or open your eyes, Shepp is like, like his behavior's all on TV. Like you should get out and like, yes, but sometimes you just don't and she did get out She then she did get out and I just feel like she was just destroyed by ship I feel like she was crushed and destroyed by ship and she is spiraling out of control And she has no idea what she's doing and it's all being put on TV and I actually am like I Just I kind of feel bad for her Because I just like I just feel like she's gonna look back at this and be like oh my god
Starting point is 00:24:04 I can't river. I can't believe I just did this all on TV. But then again, there's also a kels in the world where I might feel bad for them and then you'd find out, oh my god, they've done terrible things too. So I don't know, but I feel like in this case, yeah, there's the shaming over that. I don't feel bad for Taylor in general.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Like I don't feel bad for Taylor in general I know that it didn't work out with chat, but to me, she's such a chef that like what did you expect and then like she didn't make her Quitter job we all everybody knew that was a stupid idea everybody told her that was a stupid idea and she still was like I'm gonna travel how about I feel bad that she's weak not the worst choice I don't necessarily feel bad in general, but I do feel bad for this. I don't like when everybody's ganging up on somebody and I don't like when they're using something so personal. I mean, this would really hurt a lot of people in a different way.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Like if you sent a new to somebody and people were sharing, I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. I would be horrified. that people are sharing it and then they're just talking about it on this show. And that's why I'm like, I feel like she's being like putting up like a brave front,
Starting point is 00:25:06 but I feel like she is quietly being devastated by all this. And you're right, she didn't have to quit her job, but she's, I think she's weak. She is weak and I feel bad that she is weak. But then again, there are a lot of people who are weak and that don't get the empathy that she gets. So or the sympathy. So I don't know. But I have to only speak about the reactions. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's this, this, is this show is just a matter of such pigs on this show. And it really bugs me that the women are playing the men's game because we've seen a lot of slut shaming on this show. But it's generally from the men. Yeah. It's not, well, that's not true because Catherine
Starting point is 00:25:43 had to deal with Cameron and, and and and land in and all those people Yeah, so I guess I just I wonder Are we not seeing something from Taylor that the the girls are seeing because I actually do believe that Veneta and Leva are pretty smart people And I also feel like they seem to have a pretty progressive mindset where they wouldn't Necessarily fall into slut shaming and I. And I wonder if are we not seeing maybe, has Taylor been talking down to them about religion,
Starting point is 00:26:11 has Taylor been talking down to them about like following God and this and that? Because then I can understand why they'd be pissed. But if she hasn't been, it just, it does feel a little more on the slutshaming side of things. Well, Leva and Veneta aren't around the rest of the cast, really, I mean, except for group scenes.
Starting point is 00:26:29 They seem to be the most on the outside of everybody in the cast. So I think what they're going on is what Madison is telling them, basically. And so they're kind of following that thread and Madison's not having it. So who knows, but I don't like it in general. So Craig's like, come on, Madison,
Starting point is 00:26:47 I didn't know we were telling people, and she said, well, Patricia knew, and she kind of laughed and Craig's like, I'm gonna kill myself, I'm gonna kill myself. And then he walks over to where the guys are sitting, and Craig loves some goss. So immediately he goes over to the guys and steps right onto the couch.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Then he gets into this place, the idiot. He does that crap thing that draws me nuts at clubs. I've said this before, when you go to a club and there's all these booths and bankats or whatever. And then people, because they're cool, they don't sit on the bankat. What they do is they sit on top of the bankat and they put their feet where you're supposed to sit.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Because somehow it's cooler. You're like a cool person. If you sit on top of a bankat instead of in the bank hat and they put their feet where you're supposed to sit because somehow it's cooler. You're like a cool person. If you sit on top of a bank hat instead of in the bank hat, like somehow you're like more important, but all you're doing is just like, um, defying the rules of bank hats and like that's it. And so he's, that's what he does. He sits on top of like the, the cushion thing and he puts his feet on this nice, new cushion and he's like And he's like,
Starting point is 00:27:46 Craig, Craig, can you not stop it? Can you not desecrate the pillows? I mean, Bonnie put that pillow right there from a private collection. That's my mother you're putting your foot on. And then Craig's like, okay, sorry. So he takes off his shoes and then puts his bare feet under him to sit
Starting point is 00:28:03 at Chris Cross Apple sauce on the, I mean, what the fuck is wrong with this guy? My God. Like, I feel like Paige needs to be here at all times with the fly swan. I'm just smacking him. You know, she does. So Leva back to the ladies, Leva's like,
Starting point is 00:28:17 Taylor is officially like a fat girl. And then we cut back to the guys and chefs like, what's going on over there? Craig goes, well, this affects you too. Why don't you go over there, Chef? Go on, do it, Chef. Love is like, I feel like I just like no longer know this person. I mean, one moment she's selling me daychase or next thing I know, she's
Starting point is 00:28:37 setting dudes out like who is she? So I'm like, well, you, this also been like the first season I think you've ever talked to Taylor, maybe. So some had us in calls over, Chef's like, hey, why did Craig say that I was affected by the conversation over here? Did you just watch the Vietnam War by Ken Burns? Gosh, it's so good. What was your favorite installment?
Starting point is 00:28:58 So yeah, so he goes to Madison. Madison's like, so it's like, what's going on? And she's like, well, nothing. I mean, just Taylor St. Whitney, some pictures, there were some pictures at some point because what pictures? She's a provocative, I guess. Let's just say it was new. I don't know. I don't know. Because she knows she's in trouble now, right? And she, she tries for a half second to be like understated.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Let's just say it's provocative. Nude, slutty nude, nude, badge, badge all out, tits and nude. So now chef obviously knows this, right? He does not look surprised at all. And he also made that comment, come one, come on. When they said, are you going to his tailor coming to your fesant dinner? And he said, come one, come on.
Starting point is 00:29:44 We speculated on why he would have said that. I mean, it seems like obviously Whitney told him. Yeah. And that chef was making that joke to kind of on her or do whatever on national TV. I believe that Whitney and Shep, like Whitney and Shep are like at a different sort of space with this cast.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I believe the two of them, old money pals, and they go, and they have bourbon at the end of the night, and they just talk to you about every single person with this cast. I believe the two of them old money pals and they go and they have bourbon at the end of the night and they just talk to you about every single person on this cast. That's my theory. So, Shep is like, well, Taylor went through a tempest, if you will, like Shakespeare. And it wasn't in a teacup. It was in a, he's like, it was in a puddle. And I was part of that, but she didn't know how to behave when things fall apart. And she was trying to hurt me anyway. She could, I'm rational about this. And she's like, well, I've been there.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Okay. Like I was a completely different person when I was in a toxic relationship. I woke up smelling pathetic because I was sleeping next to pathetic. You understand what I'm saying? I had flees because I was laying down with a dog. So I get it, but at the same time, Olivia cried on her shoulder, and then her line for so many months, I mean, that's a little disturbing. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:30:51 And she's drinking and he's pissed. Like you can tell, like he starts getting the cloud on over his face. So now there's like more mingling and Olivia's hanging out with Rod and Austin's just watching from afar and so angry and Austin's like watching Rod and Olivia together. I think the whole thing is weird, but I'm like not really, I'm not really too thrilled about it. I mean, I guess what's so weird about it
Starting point is 00:31:13 is it's strange to see Olivia not wearing a poncho to protect against saliva. Like I've never seen her like that. It's like someone finally left SeaWorld and I don't know how to take it. It's like someone going to Niagara Falls, but not wearing the blue thing. So, uh, the Shepp and Taylor are talking. So, Shepp's like, so what's going on with the big smile?
Starting point is 00:31:37 And she's like, not much. And he's like, oh, I'm so sorry. She's like, what, Shepp? He goes, well, okay, well Madison sent you said that you sent Whitney a nude pic. And she goes, yeah, and it was like completely dark. You couldn't even see anything, whatever. Yeah, and you know what, it's your right.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Just as it's your right to get a job. It's your right to be in the workplace and to send like a dark boob photo. But I just don't want to see you doing that. Just like I don't want to see you with your Ford Explorer, but pulling into a puddle, but I'm not going to fault you for that. You're in a hashtag tempest. And he goes, I'm not going to fault you. I was like, Oh, wow, thanks, Chef. Wow, here comes hero's chef, you know, so she just shrugs it off, which I thought was so funny.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And we see her in the confessional and someone sent us a picture side by side of her and Olivia last year in the confessional wearing the same dress. Oh, which I thought was like Crazy that she's showing up and one of Olivia's out last year. I did not fact check it But it's the red dress with the kind of Yeah, ribbon looking like open ribbon on a way you would call that thing, but it's the red dress with the kind of... Yeah. Ribbon looking like open ribbon. I don't know what you would call that thing, but the sleeve over the shoulder. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:51 You guys know what it is. You watch the show. So anyway, Taylor just tells us, well, God created the human body. And I believe we should all be naked. Jesus is an enemy if I send a nude. I mean, it wasn't sexy. I've sent way better than that. I was like,
Starting point is 00:33:05 yes, I like this response. I wasn't expecting. I was not expecting that at all. So she was like, I'm just letting you know so you can get a hat of things. She was, I don't care. I would flash my tits right now. Please don't do that. So now it's time for dinner. And so JT makes a speech. He goes, hey everyone. Thank you all for coming. JT stand up. I am standing up. Stand up JT. Don't just get out of your chair. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, say, Olivia, my heart goes out to you. Everybody else here, you know, there was a fisherman and the fisherman occasionally gets a catch. And when you get that catch, you've locked that fucking catch up. I'm all right, everybody. JT, stop putting a styrofoam cooler on Taylor's head. So he goes, I just want to say thanks for being here today and I sincerely hope for smoother waters for all of us.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Okay, now let's talk about Taylor's newts. So then salads come out and rods like, I've never had a salad in my life, no thanks. And a little bit goes, but you could have tried it. I mean, he's like, no, you're gluten free and I'm salatry. That's how it is. Okay, Rob, you're dead.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Rob, you're dead to me. Not because I'm a big salad advocate, but just because you're trying to act like you're not one of these men children. You are another fucking man, child. I don't care if you're newer on the block. You are the same. I don't believe you for one second.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Now I cannot wait to watch this douche-flower bloom, Maxi. I do appreciate him throwing the gluten-free thing back in the Olivia space, so that was pretty hilarious. It's like, don't come from me. You're gluten free. I'm salad free. But that being said, I mean, Rod, like bragging that you've never had a salad in your life, this is this is not this is actually way more mortifying than anything going out with dealers news. This
Starting point is 00:35:01 is the real story. So if Vanita has to leave to catch her flight. So, she says bye and then Craig is like, wow, you know, this is a really nice place, JT, like even the bathroom is nice. I used to pee in the bushes here. JT goes, clearly, you didn't go to Cattillion in Delaware. And JT says, I got a proper powder room for you, which I feel like it was a double meaning there. And so Greg's like, yeah, I didn't go to Cattillin and Delaware because I'm from the winning side of the country. Ha, wait a sism. And JT says, okay, bring it back to the Civil War.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah, I was born a winner and you were born a loser. Ha. And Chef's like, so quick, we're all losers and you're the a loser. Ha. And she's like, so crack we're all losers and you're the winner, right? Because I'm not doing this. I'm not doing, Craig, you're so stupid. Cattillion doesn't mean that, okay? Cattillion is a manners school type thing. Like Cattillion is where you go learn manners.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So, either way, I don't think, Craig, I like Craig opening the door on like civil war shit talking and it's like, I'm not gonna do this. Paige, please watch this episode and then like, let's let's it's time to move on Paige. You're gonna be stuck with someone who's gonna be making civil war jokes. I feel like Paige watches every episode of this and she's always got a pillow on her lap, just to be like, oh, it's just a scream into at moments like this. So Olivia's like, this is like Thanksgiving dinner
Starting point is 00:36:35 with all the weird family members, but we're all getting along for the time being, you know? And then Rodriguez, O'Rod's like, yeah, I mean, who's the crazy uncle right now? Olivia's't know if he's like, Uncle Shep. Gosh! Oh, well guess what? It's time for Daddy to have him, Scotch. Fill me up!
Starting point is 00:36:52 So of course, Shep, who doesn't want to embarrass Taylor, is going to do this at the table with everybody here. Just innocent Shep, who just wants to help Taylor. So he's like, so madison. I hope nobody hears this tiny little skinny table that we're all shoved into. But I said something to Taylor. And according to her, it was dark. And there was nothing explicit in the nude photo that she said, Whitney. I'm not fine, it's bullshit. So Taylor goes well obviously since something was like brought up earlier today by Whitney
Starting point is 00:37:26 Thank you. Yes, there was a picture sent out that you can but you could not see anything because I Put on the knit sweater filter on the camera. So it really obscures a lot of it Well, really because that's how your teeth and your vagina and then there's a really awkward pause She's like well, which I was glad because it gave me time to laugh, like in Madison. Really? I saw your teeth in the vagina. So then Taylor's like, what?
Starting point is 00:37:53 She goes, just science. She just did you that. She goes, yeah. And I saw the decadent, come on, come on. Taylor probably took a photo that was dark. And in the photo, you can't see anything, but she didn't realize that you can take photos and up the exposure and then see everything, right?
Starting point is 00:38:10 So, no, I think she sent a new. Oh, you think it was fully, in full, full light. Okay. Oh, yeah, of course. If I looked like Taylor, that would be my headshot. Okay, I would be nude right now. So JT's like, I mean, he tells us, who hasn't sent a new, I mean, he tells us, who hasn't sent a nude?
Starting point is 00:38:25 I mean, I get them from my mom all the time. Am I right? I mean, we all get them. Family thing. Girls. And Madison's like, I mean, yeah, of course. What am I dead living under a rock? Of course I seen nudes. My husband ain't hair four days out of the week. Send all the nude pictures you want,
Starting point is 00:38:42 but do not send Whitney nude pictures, because they're like so many people to send nude pictures of your boobs too Like why send them to Whitney Exactly. That's exactly true and Olivia says the same thing. She's like why in the world would you send that to Whitney? you know and So Taylor is like, you know what? I just want to put this cup put is like, you know what, I just want to put this kaput. And I was just coming at you because I was upset with Shap. So I was fucking around with you to fuck around with Shap, okay?
Starting point is 00:39:12 And so you can sense, it's nothing was seen and love is like, what the fuck? It's with this girl. You know, she's just like, oh my God. Yeah. Kind of argument is that. It felt, I felt wrong seeing it, but he did show me, and then I looked at it like five times.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I was like, bro, can you air drop that to me? And I just felt so wrong when he did that. When he said, Craig, I did not. He was, yeah, you did 100%. And I was like, I shouldn't see this, but I had to. I was like, he forced it on my eyes. And she was like, what the hell is going on? What are you talking about? When he's like, it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I didn't show anybody. It was deleted. It was deleted on my phone because my mother had it on her iPad by then, which basically went out to every press organization in the Charleston area. Hi, Whitney. He actually got it tattooed on his lower back. So we've never forget what it looked like.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Hi, Whitney. It's your mother. Just want to let you know I got that picture you wanted blown up and framed and putting it in the new quote unquote, dan you said you wanted for the boys. Okay, I'll see you at home. Thankfully we've got a sculpture here from Italy turning that picture into a sculpture of naked tailor that we're going to put on the pool and just put a hole in a mouth and let it blow out water as a waterfall. Hey Randy said he put on some tramp-lock makeup and a little stress and do his comes one right now.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So, um, JT is like, okay, so I'm just going to take the high ground here. Oh, you should take the high ground because no one can see you. Would you stand up when you're talking to me? I'm standing in too easy, gosh. Okay, I'm going to take the high ground on this. Taylor is a good person and maybe she made some bad decisions, but I would say the genesis of the bad decisions, like that I put a Bible chapter in their Taylor. I did that for you, Kitch.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Now, I think the genesis of the bad decisions are male related. I was like, oh gosh, you're not wrong, but are you gonna really sympathize at this dinner now? Come on. It's so funny. I fall for it. I'm like, that's a good man. He loves Taylor. And I love that he's standing up for her too. You know, and I do agree with what he's saying, but it's like he is that guy, like that kind of dorky guy with no chance. He He's like, I'm gonna stand up from my future queen, my future queen cage. And he's also going to fall into all the traps as everyone.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I'm not gonna say I fall into the traps because that makes it seem like they're innocent victims. He is going to do all the things the other guys are doing, but for now he's slightly untainted, so he actually does something that's slightly virtuous. And then you see all the guys, they're all flammable. So, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh're all flummox. Like, quick, look at this ridiculous. So Taylor's like,
Starting point is 00:42:07 I have not been the best version of myself and I'm working on that. I went through a very terrible breakup with someone who crushed me, a gay this person right here, who's actually once fake defending me right now. Do you guys see what a mind fuck this is? Do you see why I would send a new to literally anyone?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Because I'm so fucking messed up from this guy anyone anyone and Madison's like, but that gave you an excuse to do that to the lady. I mean, don't talk about friendship when you're kissing the guy she was I mean, it is literally disgusting and Taylor's like, what what did do? Kiss someone single? Okay, that's where Taylor loses me. Yeah. Would you said that I was like, aha, aha, you're defending it. But that's where she loses me. At the same time, she should not have to defend a nude picture at a table in front of everybody. So, yeah, that's where I'm at. So Madison's like, but while she's crying on your shoulder base, but up. And she tells us, well, I've had to be accountable for everything I've ever done, but I think Taylor gets a pass because she's been with
Starting point is 00:43:10 everybody at the table. I'm laughing because it's just, it's like her slut shaming is like so shameless. She's just going for it. But they all do it. They're all doing it. Vanita does it. Leva does it in just a minute.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And I just, this whole argument is so fucked upita does it, Leva does it in just a minute. And I just this whole argument is so fucked up. So Olivia. But Madden does go. She goes, I mean, if you're gonna be a Hootsie, be one. I own it. And then because later on, she says, she basically says she owns it. So then Olivia, yeah, Olivia is like, well, Taylor and I have like so much to talk about. And there's like, clearly seems to be like a conversation going on around me around us. And like, I'm pissed at her. I'm like really pissed at her. But we'll deal with that. And as much as I appreciate the support everyone,
Starting point is 00:43:50 like we're gonna figure it out. So like, please don't pile up on her. Let's just eat some fucking steak. I like this, you know, good for her. So Madison shrugs and she shut down. And I wrote, I've never said this, but well done. I love you. Wow. Good job. So Taylor's like, well, wait, now Taylor starts it back up, which it's like you just got off the hook, like just let it go, but she starts it back up.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And she's like, well, I just want to say that I'm done being the conversation with every single person here. And Madison goes, well well act accordingly then practice what's you preach Where wherever you look at you we were like you're the purest fucking unicorn of all boring playing I'm interesting but pure and you are perfect But you are seeing it but we're seeing a different side of you that's unrecognizable and what you portray is a fucking phony and a fake The only part of a unicorn you got is a horniness Okay, and Taylor's like okay Tony and a fake. The only part of you in the court, you got is the whortening this. Okay. And Taylor's like, okay, well, wow, thanks for stepping in then.
Starting point is 00:44:50 She has no, I'm not gonna sit here over some Cadillac dinner pretending you're better than you're better than thou, because you're not, and that catches ugly. But you perceive her that way, Madison. Oh my gosh, huh, she heard the worst. Shut up, ship. He's like, boy, you just told me 10 minutes to go, that you did this 10 things is hard. And she think, but I'm not sitting here on my knees saying I want to have a Bible study.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Okay. So your math on Jesus is behalf. She goes, like, I'm confused. She goes, I claim to be a slut. I'm just retired. I'm like, well, you know, I don't love this slut shaming, but I, I did kind of love that line. Yeah, I don't love this. So then the producer is asking Leva, like, why is Taylor getting such a pass? And Leva's like, she's young, she's naive, she's sweet, she's southern, she's polite. I think the guys like that. And the boys would have gone after Madison if she had sent the pics,
Starting point is 00:45:45 and that would have been the end of the world. But for her, it's okay. I'm like, yeah, but why are you, it's like, do you want them to go after her? Because she's like, well, it's not, I mean, I guess it's kind for her because she's pure as driven snow that, you know, they would give shit.
Starting point is 00:45:57 No, they shouldn't be giving shit to anybody. They shouldn't be like this. And neither should you of all people. Well, that's why I like that. Well, that's actually also why I feel, I have mixed feelings about saying that I feel bad for Taylor because what love is getting to is basically, you know, Taylor is just sort of acting kind of like,
Starting point is 00:46:19 she's like, oh, innocent and soft and whatever. Like, she's fitting nicely into a box that the guys can all be like, oh poor her. But like for women who speak out and are like a little bit more quote unquote, like abrasive like a Madison, they get none of this treatment. They don't get any of like, oh well she's gone through something. They don't get anything. So that's why I kind of feel bad saying I feel bad for Taylor because I'm like, am I just playing into this, you know? And, and but at the same time, I do feel bad for Taylor. So well, I feel bad for Taylor, because I'm like, am I just playing into this, you know? And, but at the same time,
Starting point is 00:46:46 I do feel bad for Taylor. So, well, I think there's a fine line. I mean, I've think feeling bad for Taylor, like, well, I was specifying before that I don't feel bad for her in general. I think sometimes feeling bad for people kind of put some in this infantilizing people sort of a space. I'm not saying you were doing that.
Starting point is 00:47:03 No, no, for me to be like, I feel bad for Taylor. It feels like that. Like, she's an adult. She makes decisions. Yes. You know what I mean? And I don't think that like she can't do anything. I just don't think that sending someone an nude
Starting point is 00:47:14 is that bad. And I think slut-shaming is bad. And I think ganging up on people is bad. And even if it wasn't really cool, she wasn't dating shop. And I think the real asshole here is Whitney for sharing it with a whole fucking cast and sharing it over and over
Starting point is 00:47:27 and then everybody laughing about it. And then we see the flashbacks of how they were to Madison. They were terrible to Madison. They were horrible to Madison. Terrible, and that's calling her a white trash. And it's the boys club because Shep still thinks he has a shot with Taylor or whatever. Or Taylor's gonna make him look like a good person this season.
Starting point is 00:47:46 So, they're gonna be nice to him, they're gonna be nice to Taylor for Shep. You know what I mean? Just like they were mean to Madison for Austin. I think you know what it is, I think that Madison presents as strong and Taylor presents as weak. And so people don't want to punch down on someone who's already weak. Some people will, but like generally speaking, I think they just see her as like fragile and Madison is tough
Starting point is 00:48:10 and they feel like she's tough. I can just go at her, which is, you know, has this all kind of fucked up thing. And I think you're right. There is like a certain amount of infantilization that happens with Taylor and people like Taylor. And I think that part of me, it has fallen into that thing of, I haven't fantasized it probably to a certain degree and therefore I feel bad for her. And obviously, Taylor and Madison are two different people
Starting point is 00:48:36 and two different circumstances that are going through two different things. But you do see a wild, the reaction to Madison is, when you see it there in that montage, you see how really cruel these guys are to her versus the way that they are to Taylor. And I think that like, I don't think there's anything wrong with Taylor sending a nude, by the way, but where I feel bad for her is that I think that she will feel bad later on. I think that like based on like everything she talks about and believes in, I feel like in five years, she's gonna look back at that
Starting point is 00:49:09 and she's gonna, she is going to think that she was a big mess and then she's gonna be embarrassed and I feel bad for her that she will feel that way when she doesn't have to, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a nice, popery of thoughts about for me, about Taylor and women.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Well, yeah, I mean, you go all over the, not you personally, but you go all over the place watching this show. You know what I mean? Because there's so much going on. And it's like part of me is offended because Leva saying, well, you know, there's something indiantly in this culture where in the South, guys handles certain women with white gloves. And I think that's true. A hundred percent. But, you know, the annoyance in it or the like willing to slet shame
Starting point is 00:49:55 tailors like, well, do you want everybody to be treated equally as badly? Or do you think that everybody should be treated better? You know what I mean? All women should be treated better. And there seems to be this like, no, you know, I was treated this way, so why aren't you being treated this way? Instead of, I never should have been treated this way, and either should you. Wow. I know. I'm just saying wow, because I can't believe we're diving into like paradigms of gender
Starting point is 00:50:22 and or gender roles from this Frecken show like sledgehammering how we how we how we react to certain women how we treat women how men treat women and what different women and how like different types of women and I'm like I cannot believe that like this is where my brain is going so I mean oh well I mean look we too we also are two men talking about what predominantly women on these shows we've been doing this for over 10 years, and our views, like look how much we've had to learn, and look how far we have to go. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:50:51 But it's just interesting talking about it, and especially being Southern and seeing this kind of stuff my whole fucking life. I mean, there is that truth that she does kind of get away with, you know, everyone thinking she's so innocent, but is she getting away with anything? Cause the guys are just treating her like she's some dummy to be passed with, you know, everyone thinking she's so innocent. But is she getting away with anything? Because the guys are just treating her like she's some dummy to be passed around, you know, she's like some prize.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Nobody knows anything about fucking Taylor, which I think this season has made completely obvious. We'll tell it. Just, you know, the, she's fulfilling the stereotype of this like sweet innocent, what southern bill, what lady southern bell? Like she's like this delicate little flower. And so then everyone treats her that way. And perhaps me too, which makes me upset at myself.
Starting point is 00:51:33 But you see someone like Madison, who, you see someone like Madison, who they outwardly are aggressive towards because she isn't like a like a delicate little flower. You can place in a box on a shelf. Um, you see the way they treat a lot of other people who who sort of push back at I feel like are the, the accepted norms of being a proper lady quote unquote. I'm doing her quotes for people who aren't watching on video big air quotes.
Starting point is 00:52:01 So then it gets more shepi because he goes, just stop Madison. You flat out tried to embarrass someone. You always do that. I mean, please, you just sat on camera. You were banging a bunch of young ladies while you were in a relationship to embarrass her on camera yet again. Shep, be quiet.
Starting point is 00:52:19 We just saw a montage of you attacking Madison. Like you are the prime embarrassing. So he's like like you always refer to this woman who shouting from the mountain tops. Yeah, and you always refer to this fucking man child who's yelling at a woman on national TV red face or your mom not on TV. So, um, I was like, oh, do you think you're any different? He's like, yeah, I do. I'm way more laid back than you ever dreamt about being. That's what I think about laid back. I think about ship rose.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I like the last group thing where you got red face and screamed at everybody and left the table because they weren't doing what you wanted. What about the scene from last season of the cabin, the Airbnb, where you were screaming our Craig, you're like, you don't know. So, uh, that's a shit. Playback, shit. So, um, she goes, oh yeah, you're so calm. Go to bed and rewaves creep. So, it's like, I don't reach scripture. I have zero interest. But you know
Starting point is 00:53:22 who I do read? David Mammond, water great play right. So, so Madison, well clearly not, so then shut the fuck up. So crazy, hey, what are you guys finding about down there? I can't hear you, I'm so far away. And Madison's like, I'm not one of your whipping bitches, Shep, you can't just sit here and talk to me like that.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And JT's like, all right, all right. Now let's just try to be respectful of the women non-catch at the table. Right. The women and the fish and the fish women, let's respect them all. They are literally a fish out of water right now. They have no idea what's going on.
Starting point is 00:54:00 That's gonna be a catch that I threw back into the water, probably so, but it's still a catch and catch you should be respected. I'm not about snapping at the table, but I am about some red snappa. So let's make a distinction. So, chefs like, whatever man. And go, Chef, I'm being serious now.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Let's keep it above board towards ladies. The bigger, be the bigger man, Chef. You're the oldest guy in the room. And then it just went to Whitney's face like Whitney with like an ARP stamp on his forehead. He's like, grow on his yellow suit from Italy. That's like a disgust suit. God. Please love respectful to women. That's all I ask. I mean, this is such a, is actually such a funny statement here because JT is doing this chivalrous thing for the woman who stand up for women be respectful to the women But at the same time is also fully objectifying. He's actually falling into the paradigms, right? That like women need like these nights and shining armor to stand up for them, etc This shows a mess
Starting point is 00:55:03 Pretty good episode now. Great episode. It's great season. I love the season. I was thinking about, you know, it's the fall. Crappies are around the corner. It's like, I'm starting to think about, you know, what, we have a good crop of shows that could potentially be, you know, show the year nominee is for the crappies.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And this one might be it. I'm not sure if it is yet, but if this one could potentially be the best show of the year. Yeah, we need to start getting nominations and stuff. Yeah, I'm just taking. I'm just going to be time in no time. And we're going to have shorter categories this year. So now to get a nomination is going to mean a little bit more to anyone. Yeah. Anyone who cares. All right, well, we're going to have some super, super fun with that. A lot of fun with that. Everybody Thanks so much for being here. This was a really good time. I can't believe we did another two hours, another two part of this week. Sorry guys, but you know what? We can't shut the fuck up. I'm just glad to have my little
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