Watch What Crappens - #2206 RHONY Part 1: The Hags and The Hags Not

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

The Real Housewives of New York season comes to a conclusion with reunion part 2 (S14E16).  Once again the women hammer Jessel on her privilege before moving on to two different tearjerker segments.  It all ends with Uba and Erin hashing out their Anguilla drama, and Andy running out of tissues.  This is part 1 of a 2 part recap.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Well, hello, Benoony tunes. How's everything going with you? Oh my God, it's so good. I'm really, I'm like caffeinated. We have, there's like, it's such a big week. We have Miami premiering this week, like a top tier varsity level real housewives. It won our award, very esteemed Bravo award.

The crappy for best show of the year, at one for last season. So the new season is starting out very excited. We have so much, Bravo is giving us all the premium content this week, intentionally because Bravo Con is this weekend, and you're gonna be there. It's gonna be very exciting.

Are you excited to go to Bravo Con? I'm tired. I'm already tired. There's so much, there's too many people There's so much going on. I was looking over what's going on there I was like I'm not doing any of this right. I don't think I'm doing any of it I think I'm gonna stay in my hotel room and play cards with ever whoever I see passing randomly in the hallway You know, so we'll see but yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be a really good time

I officially have film oh like I have now entered my film on phase. And I think normally I would have gotten a last minute ticket, but considering that I just have my appendix out, I just don't think it's smart for me to go to Las Vegas and stand around in lines. I need to be careful with my core at the moment. So I just can see myself getting into trouble. So I am going to stay here in Los Angeles. I am going to live with my FOMO, which is my, that's my normal state. That's actually, I would actually be less comfortable

if I didn't have FOMO. If I went there and didn't have FOMO, I would not be in my natural element. So it's actually good. This is how I enjoy celebrating BravoCon by having FOMO here in LA. Well, I have my FODs as usual, my fear of doing shit. And so that's what I'm wrestling with right now.

But yeah, it's gonna be fun. I was trying to find some stuff to take to where to it. And I shopped and, you know, really what I ended up was just old Navy, a lot of old Navy stuff. So I'm excited to show that off. I've got like some old Navy Duds to work out. But otherwise, yeah, I'm kind of scared. It feels like a first day of school, except it's like the opposite of learning like this. So it's not that, but you know,

like for people going to be mean to me, no, we're going to get excluded. You know, it's like that kind of thing. But I'm also excited because we have, we know so many people who are going and I'm just used to hearing one phrase all weekend long. What are you doing here without Ben Rinda? And to say Ben is a worse Ben wouldn't come. I had my appendix. He would not come. I have my appendix out plus Dom's family is going to be in town. So I don't want to ditch.

I don't want to ditch. You know, was it what's basically in laws? So, you know, um, who's your real family? Robbos your real family. What am I saying? Of course, my real family, my real family is seeing, um, you know, like Theresa judized from afar. It's sister Kate, okay? And also, we've never really been in the position to get yelled at by actual Bravo people before, because whoever we've met has been kind of, whoever's come to our shows or something like that,

where we don't think they're gonna hit us, but we've never been in the Bravo Zoo before, where people that we've mocked are actually gonna get to punch us in the face. I know. That's gonna be interesting too. I would say watch out for Austin. Watch out for a surprise attack from Austin, but there's no such thing as a surprise attack from Austin

because you'll be like, is it raining and indoors? Oh no, it's just the saliva corining across the room because Austin just walked in. My auto eye windshield wipers will go off because there will be spittle flying in my eyes from across the room. So it's- But it's also Halloween, which is crazy.

Very scary. Very scary. Which is satanic. So I hope nobody is celebrating it. What are you dressing up as, Ben? I'm going to dress up as all the things I dressed up as for the Halloween parties I went to this year, which is my normal clothes, because I don't get invited

to Halloween parties. Halloween. Halloween. Or what? You know what I've decided? So Halloween, when you're younger, Halloween is a time for dress up and trick-or-treat and candy. Then when I was in my 20s and 30s, Halloween is a time for, like, getting drunk and parting

with friends. Now for me, Halloween is going on social media and looking at people going to parties I was not invited to. That is literally Halloween to me. And I'm not saying that in a poor and me sort of way. It's, in me, it's like, oh, this is funny how life has become this way. Because of course, I'm not getting invited to Halloween parties because I'm, and I'm not saying that in a poor me sort of way. It's to me it's like a, oh, this is funny how life has become this way. Because of course I'm not getting invited to Halloween parties because I'm, I'm, I'm either here, making dinner parties with friends or playing board games.

Like that's, that's not like the people who are throwing big Halloween parties. For me, what Halloween has become is thinking about my binge eating disorder because it's like the candy holiday of the year. So I'm like, you're thinking about M&Ms and it's okay. You know, so I, that's my like inner dialogue. And then the also it's the constant trying to hide from whatever children might be on the street. Because I have a clear glass door.

It's a glass, you know, I have a glass door, front door, and then I have windows all in the front living room. So I'm always avoiding that room. I'm like, oh God, don't let them see you. Because if they see you, they're gonna come ring the God damn tour of the building, you're gonna have to hide, you know, and I don't want to be that crazy person on the street that's hiding from the kids and like can't even spring

for a bag of snickers. Because guess what? Usually I do buy the bag of snickers and hardly anybody comes last year, I ate the whole bag. And the year before that, I ate the whole bag. So this year, I didn't even buy me. So if they come this year, they're gonna get an apple or a sugar-free.

Give them some original sugar-free. Give them, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna give them like, tens of anchovies. I'll give them like a very Brooklyn. Welcome to a very Brooklyn Halloween. You get anchovies and radishes, and they'll never come again.

They'll also have dried beans, like some garbanzas. Well, we get some garbanzas, kids. Well, it is a very spooky time of the year and tomorrow, I think it's going to be tomorrow. I don't know if we actually discuss this. I think it's tomorrow, Ronnie. We are going to be releasing a very spooky episode of crappy hour because crappy hour is tonight. It's at 5.30 on the West Coast, 8.30 on the East Coast. It's on IG live. Follow us at watch what crappens. You can also follow Ronnie at at Ronnie Carham or me at Ben Mandelker.

We do release the those episodes later on on the feed unless there's a technical issue which is always possible. We release those episodes, but you really want to be there live because you can actually interact with us. You can ask questions, you can, we'll call you up, et cetera. There's a lot to talk about, including a bombshell. A quote unquote bombshell article in Vanity Fair. I don't know if it's really that much of a bombshell. Bomb.

What a bomb. The bomb than a bombshell. Guys, I don't know if you heard. People get drunk on the real house wise. This just did. People get drunk and Bravo like encourages it. I cannot believe it. What a scandal. I'm so glad that any fair blew the lid off of this. You guys are going to be shocked who has a complaint against Bravo. Liam McSweeney and Ebony and Bethany. Wow. And Bethany. Wow. And Bethany. Wow. You guys, I'm literally on the floor shocked.

Ebony has the best quote of the article, but we'll discuss that tonight. I will, that's a tease for crappy hour. And there's also a million other things to talk about. So we're going to be talking Bravo and all that stuff. So come join us for that for a very spooky crappy hour. We're going to be talking about the vanity unfair. I think I'll come for my Bravo. Go do something else, your vanity fair. I think come from my Bravo.

Go do something else, your vanity fair. Like do something important. I'm not telling I'm adults drinking. Well, there's all the fun out of the world while I don't you Jesus. I mean, to be fair, there's more than just the drinking. So, you know, obviously there's some fairies. I haven't even read it yet.

I've just read what people have said. To be vanity fair, there's obviously some serious stuff in there too, but I have a lot of thoughts. So we're gonna talk about that. I'm really excited too. But for today, you know, Ronnie, you said that you are going to have a fear of doing things at BravoCon.

I'll tell you who else has. You're a shit. But for your doing shit, I'll tell you who else has a fear of doing shit. The current cast of Real Housewives of New York and their reunion because. Oh my God, well they sure can cry. Listen, if at first you don't succeed, cry some fucking more. Did we not just have an episode last week that was crying?

You're supposed to cry the first week or the second week. You don't cry both week. But also did this have to be super sized again like oh my god, this was just this was again like oh my god this was just this was I mean it was really it was when you're watching Roni and questioning your life also I just wanted to tell you what I'm dressing up for as Halloween. You want to know? Yes.

Because I've made the effort to go get a costume this year. I don't always do it. But I really can never think of anybody inspiring. So I just want to dress as the only person that Kathy Hilton has really been rooting for for the past couple of years. Oh. Michael Myers. Technically, it's a mashup of Michael Myers and Jason for keys, but we, but I get, I get you. Oh, you're right. This is Jason.

Michael Myers doesn't wear a ski mask. Michael Myers wears like that. He wears a William Shatner mask, actually. It really is William Shatner. Well, you know what, I just wasted the damn dollar at the dollar. It's still good, it's still very worthy. It's not who am I now?

I'm still right. Jason plays hockey. No, you're basically the Kyle Richards. Like, if Michael Myers is Kathy Hilton, then Jason Voorhees is the Kyle Richards of like scary, which of course make him Richards probably well maybe Kathy would have dressed like Michael Myers except Michael Myers failed to do the jobs spoiler alert because Kyle lived through all those movies

Michael Myers really lost some stuff wait, you know what I'm dressing as hold on here's what I'm here's what I'm dressing as My costume. We've addressed this Jason called him Michael Myers Whittle loser Jesus my costume. Can you hear me? Some away from my yeah my costume Bethy Frankl trying new hair dye oh my god. So okay, okay. Hello Tik Tok. That's what I tried new hair dye it to my hair green Look at me. I got green hair right now. I green hair. Don't use this. Don't use this. Okay, you know what? You heard about I'm doing reality reckoning and then after that Hair dye reckoning because this is not right my hair is green. I have black hair That's kind of my thing and I got green hair like what am I supposed to do like this scary boo? I'm scared

Okay, this is wrong. You know what I'm trying right now. You know what I'm trying right now lip gloss I'm gonna try this lip gloss because it was it was very inexpensive at this at the CJ max by the way I gave the CJ max lately the candy wrapper of one it brings candies. She's lucky. You're welcome You're welcome to you, Max check out the hold on. Let me let me try this lip gloss Take sick this take sick $2 to this last Sick I went to Paris and hear all the things I hated croissants French people France Okay, here I got another Bethany Frankel costume.

Hold on, here we go. Okay, okay, here's my new costume. Hi, I'm Bethany Frankel, and I'm dressed, this tripod doesn't work. I put the tripod on my head, it's not working. How am I supposed to hold the camera? I'm top of my head with this tripod. This is not-

You know what, I'm gonna try it today I'm gonna try the new iPhone the iPhone 15 You know what? Supposedly this one's different. You know for me. It's for cockpit like who knows? So there's like three holes this time three cameras, all right. So let's see this It doesn't even taste good. This doesn't taste like anything. You know what tastes better than this Samsung phones Those are sick. This is out. I phone out Samsung in. That's it. Okay, you know what I'm gonna do? This is my costume. This is my Halloween costume. Okay, guess what?

I'm a box of think. Okay, it's a box of think bars. Okay, because you know what, people need to think. If they're gonna go on reality TV, they gotta think. Because guess what? Bravo's not thinking when they're taking advantage of all poor people like Rikkel Levis and Leah McSwini. They're not thinking, okay?

But guess what? I think, because I'm Bethany. You gotta think of the unchecked egg, okay? Okay, how about it? And those bars used to be called think thin bars, but of course everybody got offended because that's the world we live in now. And you know what? Skinny's having the same problem.

Skinny jeans, people don't wanna wear them. So you know what I'm coming out with? I'm coming out with the keto diet. Everything's cheese and it's gonna be called skinny fat. That's it. That's it. Welcome to Halloween. Alright, bow. Bow.

Sick. Well, no, I'm blurry. Your camera is refusing to do any more of this. Okay, for Halloween. For Halloween. I'm dressing as a blurry person. Okay? That's what it is.

Because you know what, this light needs more focus. You need to be more focused. If you want to get ahead, you don't want to have a cheetah brand. This is what it has to be. Okay, be more... You shot out there, I am. I'm shot. ahead, you don't want to have a cheat of brand. This is what it has to be. Okay, be more, you've shot, oh, there I am, I'm shot. Okay, now my hell being costumes over is done. Okay, it's ruined. Well, you're trusting.

You're like, I'll just wait for it to unblur. I'd like hit it or slap it or wipe it or put my thumb up to it. You're just like, oh, I'm just chill. Little fix. My camera was basically protesting this string of Bethany Frankl, makeshift costumes and then said, fine, I'll focus, I'll focus. All right, so if the past 13 minutes and 40 seconds of us doing absolutely nothing real housewives

of New York related is any hint to you, nothing fucking happens on this episode. I don't know why we're surprised, but of something does towards you, there's some like Uba stuff, but this is the biggest hint that you're in for a disaster of a reunion Tonight on the dramatic fusion of the real lives of New York reunion Side why are you always hungry?

Out of your with this I don't care. Okay bring a fucking fruit roll up in your person shut up This is not a personality or a plot line. How about vanity fair? Doesn't expose on why Bravo keeps trying to tell us that this is a dramatic conclusion that this reunions good. That's where the lies are with Bravo. So we open up on after all this bullshit about,

why don't you hug me, say? Jessel saying, you implied my husband is cheating on me because I'm not having sex with him and Aaron. Aaron's like, no, I did not. I did not. No, I did not. I did not. I did neither.

No, I didn't. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Did we? Aaron did we? No, no, absolutely not. I did not. I did not.

I did not. I did not. I did not. I did not. I did not. I did not. No, I didn't. Did. You know, Aaron's voice, what's funny to me about Aaron's voice is she is, she honks. You know when people say that they honk, like when humans honk, she honks for voice honks. And I've been trying to honk like her,

and I really can't honk like Aaron. It's very difficult. This is how you honk. That's how Ben honks in traffic. Whenever Ben's really mad, he's like, I'm very mad. Somebody just cut me off in traffic. No, now that I got a Kia,

well, because I lived in the world with Toyota Camry's and Subaru Legacies, where there are horns like, beep, beep, beep, little page boys coming through with newspapers. But now I got a Kia SUV and it's like, baaaaah, it's like Leon Lockin, like, hey, hurry up over there.

Leon Lockin is a horn. Yeah, she's like Leon Lockin like, hey, hurry up over there. Leon Lockin is a horn. Yeah, she's like a semi-horn, passing by. Fuckin'. So they're all denying that they implied that. Yeah, by the way, Sion Aaron, yes, of course you did. You fucking liars, of course you implied it. Many, many times, multiple times in multiple scenes So then we see a clip of Aaron and Sy on the phone and Aaron saying he's going to be a nom I'm trying to be a little bit. He's going to be a nom

24 hours Like you know like a goose hanks like a 20 20 you know what I'm talking you know what I'm talking about though she does sort of hunk right yeah I've tried to get more of a good one how she talks but it's really hard yeah 20 really hard so basic to she's just like this but she's like this there is like a nasal. There's like a nasal like, what? Huh? Huh? Huh? That's like her hunking. Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? So she's, so Andy's like, so like when you talk about your sex life, uh, Jessel, did you talk about your poo's part of shruples in the same conversation? And she's like, yes. And they're like, no. So then of course, we see flashbacks, multiple flashbacks of

Jess will bring this up, you know, like when they asked her, like, why don't you have sex and she's like, well, I'm self conscious about my scar. And then there's like another scene where she's talking about it. And then Aaron's like, well, you didn't talk about it, not to the level you did in your confessionals. And like, when I watch it, I was like, holy shit. And like, I didn't know you were going through all that, which is like my favorite thing that on this show where it's all about like open up like like just ask her a question when she says oh yeah I had C-section whatever all you

have to do is just ask some questions of your friend and maybe you might find out some stuff. Well they said what I said why aren't you having sex? And she said, I don't know, because I'm self-conscious about my C-section scar. Is that not a good enough reason? No, I have massive body insecurity after giving birth to two fucking humans. Yeah, about that. Is that not enough insecurity? Okay, I'm insecurity from being the weight of somebody who had it or being ex the weight of whatever it is who cares if you have a body insecurity, you have a body insecurity. No one's right to question that.

And how is that not opening up? Yeah. So Aaron's like, well, I thought it was more of a playful thing. And so I was like, yeah, you would never like, look, I'm really going through something emotionally and suffering from post-pottom and all the rounds of IVF. And like, you know, if you would have come around to us instead of them, then like that's okay,

but you never once did that. You never once, it just was like, it's just like we're in a rut, that's all you were saying. So because she didn't participate in the trauma Olympics, which she did try to participate in, but you just basically were NBC and only focusing on swimming and gymnastics instead of ping pong and trampoline. Therefore, it's like, what am I saying?

Oh, did I say I'm Catholic? Well, I get where you're going and it's, I don't, even, their trauma- It's like she's, it's very going, but it's just like, she's judging, she's like one of the judges at the Olympics. You know, I've wrote Trauma Log. Like, she didn't, you would rather her trauma log have been directed better.

Like, she's, she doesn't have a problem with the trauma, is how the trauma was presented and she should have made the trauma log more presentable to everybody else. She was like scoring her low on her trauma limbic. It's more like, she's like, if I'm gonna see this metaphor through, she's like NBC and she's like, they're only gonna focus on our events

and we're not, we don't even care about your event and therefore we don't care what you have to say. And if Jessel wanted her trauma to be a medalist, she should have enrolled in gymnastics. But like Jessel's trauma is a different event. I'm done with this. Also, she couldn't have told you that you guys needed to lay off because she didn't know how much you were talking

behind her back about it. That she didn't find out until she watched the show and saw that you guys were making this whole plotline about her husband cheating on her. So she didn't really know. So she couldn't confront you about something that you guys hadn't said to her fucking face as much. You know what I mean? But also it doesn't take that much, you don't even have to participate in the trauma Olympics. It doesn't take that much emotional intelligence to look at someone who says, oh, my husband

and I haven't had sex in a while. And just to think to yourself, wow, it sounds like they're in a rut, but maybe there's something else going on there. And to maybe, like, if this is someone you care about, you ask a question instead of being like, what? You're not having sex. Like he's going to leave you like what? Like if my husband didn't have sex with me, he would like ratify on a amendment and go off with Abigail Adams. Um, so just like, you know, I didn't know what you were saying behind my back. And so I was like, but you talked us, where your friends at the end of the day.

Your friends? Are you fucking kidding with this now? Cut to this could have been a conversation over the phone and stop competing with my mom, Java. Your uncle is not the parent of my mom. Aaron's like, what did I say behind your back? Because Justin's like, I didn't know you were single to step behind my back. And I was like, what was I saying behind your back? What I say, what I say, what I say, what I say behind your back? Because just like I didn't know you're single the stuff behind my back. And I was like, what was I saying behind your back?

What I say, what I say, what I say, what I say. The poverty is cheating in Vietnam. No, I didn't say he was cheating. I just said that he was going to Vietnam and I'm applying, he was hiring a sex worker. That's all. And then we see a clip of David going, what would you say, well, hey, Si, what would you say?

If I said I was flying to Vietnam and Si goes, who the fuck are you fucking? And he goes, yeah, you hear that okay? So that's literally you caught my arm inside just sit there in my with each other I do It makes me crazy and they're never called out on it either by the way So jostles like but you didn't play and that And that, Jeren's like, no, I didn't. No, I didn't.

Well, I'm not saying you. I'm saying, sigh and play it. Stick to your guns, Jettel, because Aaron fucking implied it too. And there's plenty of hours where nothing happened besides that. So you can always call around on it. And you're like, I want to put a pin in that and by put a pin on it. You know what I mean? I just want to point out that first, like this is the first time that she's admitted

that it wasn't me, it was just size. So thank you for admitting that it wasn't me that I ever did it. Okay, I'm gonna put a pin in this, and by put a pin, I'm just gonna end this and we're never gonna talk about for the rest of the episode and therefore the rest of the season. So Jenna, so, hey, Jaya, Judy from Judy Town said

at Bringsgiving, you kept insisting that Jessels cackling hat comment is not that bad. You really believe that or you're trying to diffuse the situation since you're the one to stir the pot. So Jena's like, oh, so my father's British. And so it's like a common thing in Britain that people say cackling hat and stuff like that. So that's why I said it because it was pretending to be British for a second.

And Aaron's oh really because like a lot of people have told me that it's not very common So like and by a lot of people I mean even like four of our thirds. It's like Aaron Did you really do boots on the ground investigation about whether cackling hacks? I asked him was an offensive was an offensive phrase like his was like, it's cackling hags British thing. Like really? What about cottage cream? Oh wait, by the way, cottage cream is a British thing. Scones.

I've asked. I've done research. And then Jussel goes, oh, my mom calls me a hags. So it's not a big deal. You and me both sister. And Bryn's like, I have people like stopping me in my tweets and they're like in London or whatever I was like they're stopping you in your tweets I love that just brin's just walking along go back now tweet hey stop it your tweets huh wow it's crazy they've been stopping my tweets

or whatever and they're saying it's not a thing. It's not a thing. People do not call each other a cackling house and in line that. Well, hey, you know what else is not a thing? How good this cast is. Hey, you're engaged to a Brit. Did you ever hear that phrase? Brin and she goes, no, and confirmed. And like, I asked Gideon and like, not only did he never hear of it,

Nido did his mother, Lady Stasia. I'm like, Lady Stasia, is this? Is Lady Stasia a real person or is that just someone from like a YA novel? Because that does not sound like a real person. That's funny, because I wrote down Lady Stevia, so I don't know that's how much I believe her. But it's Stasie.

I just want to make sure everybody knows that he's royalty-so. So the pit, yeah. J want to make sure everybody knows that he's royalty. So that's it. Yeah. Jazzles like, I mean, his mother's royalty. I mean, they wouldn't even say they would stupid. Stupid. He just said stupid.

That's like so, man. Listen, you're not an actual princess. You're just a princess. Okay, it doesn't count for you. So Andy's like, well, hello from on my face until this season ends says, you know, it seems like a just so really went off the rails, insulting Jenna's gift, Jenna, you let it go. So why did Si take up the fight instead of get so offended? And Si was like, you know, I can see in that moment, how much it upset Jen on it pissed me off too, which I totally forgot about when I went after

Jen for being an asshole by giving us too many gifts earlier and not paying me for it later in the season. So, and she's, so, Jassel's like, well, you know, I don't really appreciate that. She's, yeah, but she was like my sister in that moment. Oh, so now she's your sister. Well, sister Jenna, I didn't really realize we found another sister. Sister Si. I kind of thought, this is the thing, that was just sort of a nuclear family of two. Okay.

So Jenna's like, I've never had like a sister or a friend, except that girlfriend should squeak. And like, I just, I didn't want you to feel hurt, but I also felt like they're sticking up for me and it felt good. I'm sweet, defenseless, Jenna Lyons. And Justice, I don't even remember half of that. I think I was backing out from the hideous nature

of that piece of lingerie. So I very unaware of your emotions just as you are very unaware of my body type and to that I say sorry sister Jenna Listen, I'm like pavita to shop put very very sorry Well cackling from cackling head says what's up with cyan Aaron? They get so upset with Jenna not sharing and then they ask they ask Jussle to share, and she does share, and then they make fun of her sharing. Oh, wow, what a season, am I right?

I would like to address this. I think the problem I was having, understanding your stories, is that they didn't seem like Jussle, and I understand your family is your story, but I wanted to know about your upbringing, and you grew up and what celebrities you colored books in nearby. The other thing was that it was hard for me with all these girls, would like talk and have these hard up rings, and then you were like, I grew up with nothing, and then you're like, oh, but I had an internship, and I got to live with my uncle, and it just didn't

understand. Yeah, and I like that Aaron was also like, I'll address this, he asked you. He asked you the question. So yeah. And also someone saying like having an internship isn't hard upbringing, have you ever done an internship? Because they're not easy. I've done one.

They were very, very, very difficult. They had, they were very difficult. And if I want to cry about it, I fucking will. I mean, believe it or not, I actually, I understand what Erin is saying here. I don't think that she's completely like, you know, off base here, Jussle was being, I mean, her family is her story. And it was ridiculous that they were rolling

their, their eyes at Jussle at that. But it is kind of funny when Jussle was like, I had a hot upbringing too, when it sounds like like she had a not a lavish wealthy upbringing, but she sort of had a, like maybe a standard middle class upbringing or whatever. So like I get that, but it was just the way they were so dismissive of her instead of just like, instead of like trying to ding her about like, oh, you're a parent, you're trying to compare, you're trying to make it seem like you went through as hard of a time. Why don't you just listen to

her and just hear her story? So, Jussles, like, well, first of all, I want to say I talk about my parents and where they come from because it informs my identity. I mean, it's my skin, it's my culture. So for you to be like, own 1492 Jussles parents came on the Mayflower. That's very

offensive to me. You made fun. You belittled my story. And I was like, stop, stop saying that. Stop saying that's not it. That's not it. It is it. It's like literally on camera. And then he's like, but that's how she felt.

And it's, guess what? It's also what you did. Because you made fun of everything that she said. And you judged it to be not dramatic enough. Yeah. You're an asshole. And then side does the old. I apologize if that's how you felt.

Well, you know, like watching it back, like it does seem like maybe we went a little crazy on Jessel, and then we see the clip up, we want to hear more about you! Yeah! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. You know, in that moment, she just kept on talking in circles to me, and like the math just wasn't mathing

because remember Andy, when he said that last episode, I'm gonna use it now. So math just wasn't mathing for me at the time. And so like I just kept matching out of her because like I was getting frustrated about something that was really didn't matter that much to me. So Jenna's like, Andy is like, well, jeans from blue were fine except you've worn that before and it's a reunion says Jenna, what was your take on this whole thing? And Jenna's like well, I mean first of all, I mean, Si, thank you so much for saying lashing out. You can get that terrible amount of my website. They're for everybody, you know, whatever skin tone or personality type really lashes.

Am I right? Andy, what was the question? I just I think that sometimes what happens is there's just like a disconnect of like not referencing or acknowledging the difference. And so it's like not about comparing, but it's about like someone is like talking about their uncle, dying of alcoholism. And it's just like very different from like a mom or, um, you know, the girl from Shits Creek who I just referenced before.

And it just, it doesn't mean that you don't feel pain or sadness. It's just like the two things are different. And like not being able to acknowledge that and definitely it's like okay, do it to do it to disclaimer Do it disclaimer, okay, like I'm an African woman We take out aunt and uncle like literally a mom and dad and Andy like doesn't care because Andy hate by the way, have you noticed that Andy does not like uba like it's very clear that Andy hate super right? because Andy Hade, by the way, have you noticed that Andy does not like Uber? Like, it's very clear that Andy hates Uber, right? Um, I don't know. I mean, I'm reading that.

I don't, I think that Uber got on his nerves by just piping up and, like, making all these comments and trying to move the reunion too far ahead. Yeah. And that's what I'm getting, you know, because he's like, well, thank you for hinting at our last segment right in the beginning when we're trying to have our friend in game time. Yeah. Um, but I noticed that he's not following.

He's, he wasn't asking or any follow up questions or any of that last week. But then we finally get to that this week. But as far as this stuff goes, I don't like this. It's a kind of as we went through the season. I really don't like how they judge everybody's trauma performances. It's really bothering me. Why don't you guys just start coursing out to trauma? Like a five-course meal.

They can have small traumas, they can be delivered first. Let's say like childhood poverty, okay, or parental divorce, brave migrations, okay? We can do that as starters. And then second, we can have family, tragic deaths, and parental addictions, okay?

And then third, can be parental deaths by tragic addiction. Okay, that's like the big, big huge one. And then Sy can present her trauma as the piece deflaming bananas foster resistance. You've got it all Sy. You're a wing. You're a fucking wing. Rituities included, please don't try and skip out on that.

It will there be a wine pairing, WHOI and E. So, Si is like, Well, I didn't want to talk about my mom and like I was in a really bad place because my mom passed away and like just died months prior, which by the way, I like that's a big deal. Like I get that. And so, Si just saying it was like a terrible moment

and she's like, I understand you didn't mean any harm. And you just wanted to connect to me, but in that moment, I just wanted to get away and like, you know, and so then Justin's like, and I get that and I'm sorry. I'm totally sorry. And then Bryn gets mad at Justin for apologizing. Bryn's like, why, like, how are you the one

that's ending up apologizing? Shrhip your family apart, like Bryn's getting all upset now. And then it's like, oh, we're talking. You're not even in it. You're not even in a Bryn. You're not even in a Bryn. And I just wrote Aaron is blinking confused because that's Aaron, you know,

every time they cut to Aaron, she's like, ah, what? What? Wailing hugs? Ah, cackling hugs. And Jess was like, well, look, I know it's not apples to apples and watching back. I realized it is her mother.

And I don't want to compare it because that's not my father to me. And I know it's not the same. I wasn't trying to do that. So it's like, I know, I know. The point is she was trying to say, I understand alcoholism because it was in my family too and it's very painful. She was trying to reach you in a way,

even though you had been an asshole to her constantly. And I think just all fumbled all over her trauma thing as well. And it was a little cringey to watch it. You know, I said that at the time, but she was fumbling all over it because you guys were being such dicks to her and you were making her feel nervous like she had to perform it. Yeah. And let's be honest, I mean, you have, you sort of have a high school thing going on here.

And Jussle is not like a cool girl, okay? But she's, but now she's in a group of cool girls and she has to play the part, but she has no idea what she's doing. So she's fumbling left and right and all the cool girls can see it. So they're like trying to like poke holes at her and like, you know, make everyone see that she is like Gretchen Wiener or something like that. So, so, hey, win from the willow says, hey, so you told the women you lived off your savings, we're trying to make it in fashion. Who has savings at 20 years old?

Where did you get savings? Doesn't that say privilege right there? So again, we're just trying to nail Jessel on the privilege thing, which obviously she has privilege. So Jessel on the privilege thing which obviously she has privilege. So Jessel is like no I worked in college and I had savings and my parents gave me savings to that's all I had nothing and by the way Savings could be 5,000 10,000 Abund me sandwich. It doesn't mean I have a trust fund just a lazy husband. Sorry. What were we talking about? Yeah, I was like well you're not supporting yourself in New York on $5,000 girl. I went to New York with $800. Did I sleep on the street?

I sure did. Okay, I thought it was so fun. I was 18, but people do do that. Okay, and stop trying to win this. Wait, also, stop trying to win. And also the point that's hilarious because she's based. I think Sai is trying to say you had more than 5,000 because you can't live off of 5,000. But wouldn't that also be verifying if Justice said I had 5,000 in my savings? And like, well, you can't live off of 5,000. Yeah.

Isn't that the point? Isn't that the point that she had nothing to live off of it? She had an internship and 5,000 dollars. And an uncle who was going through his own struggles. Like, you're the one who just said, I had negative $420 in my bank account. And then she's like, I had $5,000 and you said, yeah, you can't live off of that. So you must be lying. It's like, I can't even, I can't,

I literally, I can't, my walls are up. I can't, what does it mean? But isn't she saying that she's not, that that's a lie because there's no way she could have supported it. Yes. It's not on $5,000. But isn't she saying that she is not, that that's a lie because there's no way she could have supported this on 5,000? That's what she's saying. But also though, at the same time, she's sort of like, if Jussle say,

she is both, she's saying, no, you could not have lived in poverty because she's basically saying, you're lying because otherwise you would have been living in poverty. But then Jussle was saying, I was living off of nothing. Like Jussle was saying, I came to New York and I had nothing and Sia is saying, well, you're lying because we have decided

that you weren't living in poverty. So you're lying about having five thousand dollars. The point is, it's just nuts. And also everybody who comes to New York is not rich. A lot of us pours travel to New York And we end up getting five jobs and trying to make it work for years at a time It decades at a time until we realize why are the fuck are we doing this? There are too many stairs in this town goodbye you fucking

Ridiculous wreck of a difficult town, okay? If I want to walk upstairs I will do it in some place where some is not gonna try and push me down later and take my money I just I just also still think that like... Sigh had it very hard up bringing and it's like, you know, her stories are very sad. And she did have to scrape by and she had negative $400, she had to do all those things. And you know, like good for her that she made, she turned it around. And, but like just because someone doesn't have a story of like hardship that's to that degree, doesn't mean that the struggles that they went through

are therefore not worthy of their experience, like being talked about or like not worthy of, it still was hardship for that person, even if it wasn't as hard as what you went through, it doesn't mean therefore they get dismissed, you know. Right. So, um, Aaron's like, yeah, but like you went to college, that's a privilege. And just as, yeah, my parents started from scratch, is all I'm saying. And Aaron says, well, I get it because my dad started from scratch in Israel and we moved here. So like So did you grow up poor? I'm just wondering. She didn't.

Well why? Aaron, who is the most privileged of all of them, is the one who's on Jostles' case about privilege the most. And it's like, but what? Like, again, it's like, why don't you just listen to a story instead of trying to poke holes in it? Let us be the ones to poke holes in it. That's our job.

You should just be listening. So Jostles, well, we grew up comfortable, but not lavish. You know, I'm sorry. I hope that Pavits is not watching that. Sometimes he thinks I'm saying lavash, and then he runs out to the street and starts the judging flatbreads. But as privilege and no privilege, listen,

I shouldn't be made to feel ashamed about how I grew up. I should be ashamed for having white round furniture with twin children. I should be ashamed for having white round furniture with twin children. I should be ashamed for having an idiot husband who cares more about flat bread on the sidewalk than he does about putting our children into a good school. I should be ashamed for having someone who didn't think it was worth the money to be rubbing shoulders with the little man who runs quickly in mission improbable movie. So she has to be a very simple upbringing, you know. So while you were at the ballet with Brad and Gwyneth, I was living newspapers with my mother. I'm like, I appreciate this new take on the Alex McCord classic.

It's the Limerick News paper. I was, by the way, delivering newspapers, are you in a tree grows in Brooklyn? What is this Newsy's lifestyle that Jussell has a child with a little page boy cap being like, hey, Mr. Gautacotta, got some new headlines, extra, extra veto about it. I'm sorry, did I say newspapers?

I just meant news. I would go door to door and say, I'll be married to a man named Puppet one day. I'm sorry, did I say newspapers? I just meant news. I would go door to door and say, I'll be married to a man named Puppet one day. I'm already ashamed. I'd like to apologize for how. I would go from door to door and be like, read all about it. Margaret Thatcher got some new shoes. Do you want to buy a copy of the paper? Also, Aaron's like, what? How did I ever make you feel ashamed? What? I made you feel ashamed? What?

When did we ever make you feel ashamed? You're both literally tearing down her story over and over again for weeks. What are you talking about? So Aaron goes, oh yeah. Well, what did you know about my backstory? Like what? My dad came from the Mayflower.

And Bren was like, I'm a thundering Mayflower because my dress. Ah! Ha! And Bren was like, I'm a thundermain farmer because my dress. Aaaaah! Come on shoes, here comes one right now. Okay, well scrub from day, he says. Aaron didn't like Bren flirting with Abe, but now she's making negative insinuations about Jettel's marriage and what the difference between what you did and what Bren did. negative insinuations about Jettles marriage and what the difference between what you did and what Brinded

Um, I'm sorry like I was poking fun and that wasn't funny. Um, I genuinely don't think there's any issue in your marriage. I just think it's weird that he was going to be at an home for a sandwich like that's strange. Sorry like to me, it's just like who does that? No, he just, he loves food and being far away from our family and honestly we're happy to have him far away. The children have actually gotten smarter while he's been gone. Yeah, but like for me, like, could you understand if Abe said, babe, I'm going to Thailand to get a pad tie and I'll be back. That would be weird. That would be weird. Yeah. But if Abe said, listen, I got a flight to Thailand worth nine zillion miles for $900 because of COVID. Now we can take the family on vacation for free. Yeah. Flight first class. You know, first class. Sorry. That's how I fly.

We're about to fucking take off. You fucking idiots. All right. God damn it. We're about to fucking take off you fucking idiots. All right, God damn it. We're gonna get down this see word of a runway We're gonna throttle this bitch Well, you know the thing is maybe it would be weird if Abe did that only because Abe has stated on record Sassing your horn Wow, what a cross airline No, but maybe it would be weird if Abe did that because Abe has admitted that if he didn't get sex for long enough time, he would actually cheat. So he is actually he's actually expressed intention. Like he is basically like he's got a ticking clock so he's going to cheat. So maybe it would be, yeah, maybe it would say something. But

I also like Andy goes, but isn't pop it like the president of the street food fried chicken committee of flaffle and flat bread of New York City. Just like, yes, it's it's modifying it. This is true. Yes. So Andy's like, okay, well, that from side said, I don't know why I said that. Oh, sad from side said,

say you accused just of lying about probably going to be a nom when he just didn't have a ticket, but do you still think she was why? And so I was like, well, she definitely said he was leaving last week and then he wasn't leaving. And at the moment, it felt like a lie, but you know, maybe I was understanding. I don't why am I still sitting here? Like, but why are you so invested in the ticket thing? I was so invested. I was, I apologize, I apologize, and Br It's like, I was so invested.

I apologize. I apologize and Brynn's like, you know, like pinpointing like every little thing. And back to him, I'll tell you who doesn't at pinpoint. I'll get you in. He's got a big dick. So I was like, you know what, Brynn? You know what, Brynn? It's not your husband.

Okay, I'm talking to Jessel. I apologize, Jessel. But the Vietnam thing to me was very, very intriguing. I didn't understand it. Like, I'm talking to Jessel. I apologize Jessel, but the Vietnam thing to me was very, very intriguing. I didn't understand it like I'm watching it back. You didn't understand it which made even me made me even more invested in it. It is what it is. I'm so sorry. I don't want to mess up your marriage. I don't want to poke holes in your marriage. I apologize. I'm a bored woman who has nothing going on in her life. And this is the best thing that came along for me. I love how size apologies are even rude. She's like, you know, I mean, like, then I realized how much you didn't even understand it. So look, I'm not here to poke holes in your marriage, you know, like, Povid is probably poking holes in pumpkins, just have something

to fuck, am I right? But who am I to say that? You know, Povid. Listen, I'm not like one of Povid's boba drinks. He doesn't know. I'm not trying to poke holes to stick a straw in it. Okay. I don't really care. I was just just bored. So, Jenna, you weren't even here for this stuff. Do you agree with Jessel that it was mean girl, the Aver? And Jenna's like, well, um, you know, I could, um, I guess I could see like in her eyes how it maybe felt that way. And also, I mean, I do have a friend who flies for miles. So, like, it didn't really, And also, I mean, I do have a friend who flies for miles. So like, it didn't really, it didn't seem that deep. Like, I didn't really, I mean, why am I here again?

So it flashes, lashes. I mean, Povid is becoming a little bit of a miles, miles influencer because he just did something with the Miles guy this week, which I just think it's Povid's little side journey on this just cracks me up. You know, like he actually came on to Crapy Hour, the last episode. this week, which I just think it's Povits' little side journey on this just cracks me up. He actually came on to Crapy Hour the last episode, so it didn't make it on toward the

episode, we released on the feed. But in addition to Captain Lee, Povits also came on, and we were like, so tell us about the mouth. And he just was like, yeah, so, well, you go to the mouth and the bon mi in Vietnam is actually one of the best bon mi, so I'd like to go to the BANMI and then afterwards I like to go to another restaurant and I have this amazing Bun Cha. And then you know you fly and like Emirates is the best. And you get the full that.

And he's just like, he's like so into it. It's like very adorable to me. Nurtie and adorable. So next we ask if there's any hope for reconciliation between Aaron and Syingessel and Syingessel. And Syingessel is like, oh yeah, we've been going out. So yeah, we're already made up. And just as a cat, there were highs and there were lows, but we understand each other now, Andy.

Great. Glad we have super sized this episode for this. So Andy's like, okay. Also, you know, I just wanna share this with you because you're my um, and it's like, okay. Okay. Also, you know, I just want to share this with you because you're my bestie and I need to say it out loud to hold myself accountable. I really want to stop laughing like this. I don't know what that is.

If I feel like Ben needs to know I'm like, because sometimes you know how you can laugh, not you personally, but I can laugh quietly. Like you'll be talking, I'll just be going to To me, that's laughing, but I'm like, he probably thinks I'm just being quiet. And I think I just subconsciously started adding a... Ugh. And I realized I was doing it and I've got to stop it. I can't stop it.

I'm like a strawberry. I like it. I'm very slowly like, ugh. I like it because it means that like you are mused by something enough that you can't get all your air in. I know, but I feel like it also sounds like I have a medical problem and I need to stop. Listen, we all have medical problems.

Okay, you know what? I literally do have medical problems. That is not it at the moment. I am a walking medical problem. I'm literally a medical problem at the moment. I am the most proud. So Andy is like, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna use this appendix thing for many, many weeks to come, just so everyone knows.

I'm glad to have you proud of him. I'm not not that anybody knew that you had this. I am actually literally like, I am like a Roni, a Roni-new class storyline. Like, well, have my appendix, like I would be like Emily Simpson Newhip, which is not in Roni at all, but you know, this is my thing. It doesn't get resolved until the season finale. You're like, eyes and now I feel better. Cheers.

Just because I don't have an appendix doesn't mean I don't have a table of contents. Get it word play. Listen, I may be missing my appendix, but that doesn't mean I can't be a dick. I may be missing my appendix. Doesn't mean I'm not a lot to digest. I don't need toxic things, whether it's an appendix or people.

I got my appendix out, but you better be glad Juan appendix isn't here. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe No problem putting anyone in their place. She's a tough nut to crack. And Ubas rolling her eyes. You know, some nuts don't have to be cracked, by the way. You know, some nuts, you just see them on the street and the sidewalk and you say, there's a nut. I hope a squirrel enjoys it. So we get.

Ubas rolling her eyes. And by the way, we're getting a lot of this from Uba during this reunion where she's letting it be known that she's pissed, but she's not really saying anything. And I don't know if she can't really win, because sometimes I'm like, well, why are you just saying that and then not following up on it?

So I get that she can't really win, but it's very funny because she's clearly rolling her eyes about the size segment. She's clearly pissed at Si, but then later when they get to it, she's like, no, I love you. So I don't really understand. I still don't understand what we're aiming for.

Uba isn't like level one improv and been given the prompt to be in a fight. And it's sort of like this formless thing where she's trying to kind of like find it, you know. So we see the whole thing about Si's life. I was like, now it's sweet. And it is like, wow, that was really important what you just said with all that you've gone through that you can find positivity and who your mom was. So it's the mom segment. And so, Si talks about growing up with her mom. It's like, it is heartbreaking.

Like, say what you will about Si, like, that is a tough thing for someone to go through. So it's the whole thing about her mom would get drunk. She would wait by the phone, wait for a police officer to call, say that she fell over in the park, and it was like having a child, and she didn't realize it until high school, and she got better as Si's career improved.

She threw her money at it, hoping it would improve, but it never would, but every time she was optimistic that it would improve. And by the way, I is, I'm condensing about 15 or 20 or three hours of content into like three sentences right here. Because it goes on. Yeah, here's how I'm gonna do it.

It was so sad. Okay, so then we get to, and he's like, so sorry. You know what's interesting? When we announced the cast, people reacted negatively to there being an influencer, and I know an influencer. So what was your reaction to that and how much did you get paid to have it for which brand?

So, I'm sorry, since we skipped over so much, I literally have scrolling just to find out where this question was. I will say this, while I was scrolling, I forgot there was one funny moment in the middle of the trauma, which is Scy talking about how her mom, what would get, her mom was living with him and would get drunk from the kids and was awkward

and everything and so they were just, the kids would be like, oh grandma's weird and she said how her mom was a painter and her mom would like love to paint while Bob Ross is on and then Aaron goes, ah, I love Bob Ross. That Bob. Are you trying to get some points in the art world by announcing that you love Bob Ross as if that's like an original concept?

I feel like she saw a preview for the Owen Wilson movie and she was just going with that. Is there an Owen Wilson movie about Bob Ross? Yeah, he plays Bob Ross. Wow, you have to look it up. It's crazy. Love him, love Owen too. Love that. So, it's like, yeah, you know what?

Influences get a bad rap. Like, people don't get that it's a business. We got deliverables, we got briefs, we pitch concepts, like an advertising agency. You may have seen one with me in acid wash jeans in a crop top standing on my Steupon Brooklyn, right? That took months of pitching. Second step, third step, top of the stoop. Sitting down, Drake Maddy. Yeah, that lazy fuck.

Yeah, it's really, really hard. You know, you got to you got to spend a lot of time, you know, thinking like It's really, really hard. You got to spend a lot of time thinking, like, am I going to do a picture in the middle of the street? Am I going to be on the sidewalk? What am I going to do? Hold on, umbrella? It takes four months to figure this stuff out. But I also love that she's like, God, people think it's just taking a selfie every episode.

You were like, God, take a selfie. You got to make the content. Let's make a selfie. You really are just busting down those stereotypes as far as influencing go. I don't think that anyone has a problem with necessarily the idea of influencers. The problem is that a lot of influencers lack personality, not all of them, but a lot of them are just like, here I am, we're in clothing, here I am doing this. And the fact that side as I describes it, they have to sit down, they have to plan it out, they come up with like a strategy,

deliverables and posting, it is actually supporting the notion that everything we are seeing and following of this person is not really coming from a spontaneous or authentic place. It's all carefully planned and you're getting an artifice. So like, that's why we don't like it because there's nothing interesting about it. It's just we're just seeing a marketing plan, you know? I'm not particularly interested in what anybody does. I mean, I didn't notice that we didn't know what Brim did

until way later into the season because it became a controversy online with Brin going after the Instagram influencer, bravo on Botox. Uh-huh. And when she came after them, and that's when it kind of became a thing where I was like, well, I guess we don't really know what she did.

I don't care what people do. I don't need to see people who work. I do. I just care if they're entertaining, and you're not. I care because it's a way, I just, I wanna know, like, there needs to be a way in. Like, well, cause, Brinn to me, here's why I needed to know about Brinn. I just mean, like, I'm not a,

I don't mean that I don't need them to work. I just mean, I'm not a job judge. You know what I mean? I'm not a job judge influencer, naturally less than a lawyer. I'm not a job judge. I'm not a job judge influencer naturally less than a lawyer. I'm not a job judge either, but like Brynn to me, like she comes on and like she has this dramatic back story

and then when she's not talking about that, then she's just like, and she's like talking about her money and this and that and it doesn't make sense. I just need context. I don't need to, it's not like I'm like, I can't wait to find out what her story is.

I can't wait to read an article and LinkedIn about Brynn. It's just, I need context on her, it's not like I'm like, I can't wait to find out what her story is. I can't wait to read an article and LinkedIn about brain. It's just, I need context on her, that's all. And the fact that there's so little context in so many of these people is to me speaks to the failure of the season. So basically, and I also wanna say, I'm totally down to see influencers on TV because hello, I was a huge huge huge fan of real

real girlfriends in Paris, which is all about silly influencers, vapid influencers, the show had barely any conflict. There was like some French fries and some wine wound up on a different influencer, which was excellence. One of the best fights we ever saw. But that show, that was hilarious because they were influencers. And so I felt like Bravo found the joy, found what was so funny about influencers on that show. But this place, with Si.

So Jenna jumps in with her defensive influencers. And she's like, you know, I'm just like, I'm in an industry where, you know, this comes up. So, I mean, influencers,, there's a myriad of people who maybe call themselves influencers, but I mean, they're just, I mean, they're not really influencers. I'm sorry if anybody knows anybody who maybe calls themselves in influencer.

I'd love, I love when Jenna starts like Vogue talking where she gets so like Worked up with her shy act that she's just like paulting But also like the the I Loved this defensive side because it also reasserted the fact that Jenna was in a position of authority in fashion at a high level She's I watched the scoop of people come up and it really re-asserves that, she was up here on a high level creative side and watched these peons rise up a little bit to do whatever they're doing. I just really re-asserted that Jenna is up here and Sia is way down here. Right, there's people who actually make news and print newspapers.

And then there are people like Jussles Mom who go around on bicycles and throw those newspapers at doorways. And you know, once not necessarily worse than the other, I don't know if I'm making a point. Right now. By the way, Bravo, next season, please bring on Kelly Katrone. Bring her back. She is part of the Bravo family, Kelle on Earth. Did you see her?

Are you gonna bring up her influencer thing? That's why when she was like, fucking influencers. She hates them. What did she say? She said something like, she put a video. Did she make a video? She was a video. Fashion week or something.

She put a video of some videos. It was, okay, Kelly Katron influencers. It was a fashion week or something. She put a video of somebody. It was. Okay, Kelly Katron influences. It was just like, so perfect. Okay. Here it is. I'm gonna press, I'm gonna hit it. I'm going to turn on my, so we can hear it. Let me turn on my safaris.

So people, oh, I think they can't. Okay, let's see if this works. Okay. This is the, on TikTok, wisdom hot off the presses. Hashtag Kelly Katron, a pressing play. Okay. This is the on tiktok wisdom hot off the presses hashtag Kelly Katrone of pressing play. Okay. Oh, sorry, there's a pop up one second. Okay, of course. Okay, sorry, everyone, it takes a moment. Okay, I'm pressing play. Hello, tiktok. Go. Kelly, give me one thing that's in and one thing that's out this

fashion week. One thing that's in is mother fucking truth. One thing that's out is influencers. Bye! See you later! That's from Tony Weiss. I mean, what should they influence? It's a good question. It's a good question to ask. You heard it here first. Kelly Kichon. Sorry. I love their she ends with sorry like you're talking to an influencer Get the little clip with Kelly. She's like you know what the problem is in fashion You know what's in peace and love you know what's out fucking influencers But what are they influenced they literally have people buying your product. That is what influencers do. You silly. Hey, everyone. This is the end of part one. And keep an eye out on your podcast feeds because part two of this Aronnie reunion recap is coming up. Thanks everyone for being here. We'll catch you on part two.

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