Watch What Crappens - #2226 RHOSLC Part 1: Watch What Rappens

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

This week on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (S04E10), Lisa Barlow drops it like it’s lukewarm with a hip hop remix of “Away in a Manger” for Heather’s book event.  Plus, Monica gets her car back, but not without more drama.  This is part 1 of a two part recap!Get all our video recaps and bonuses at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yeah, well next week we are gonna do Mary Domenicin. We're not doing it forever, because there's too many shows, but we haven't done it yet. It's a great season, so we're going to do a recap of that of Sunday Night Show. And we're probably going to skip Beverly Hills and Miami because they're going to air them the night before Thanksgiving. So guess what? And especially if you don't give a screener for Beverly Hills, what do you think is going to happen? Probably. Come on people. You expect us to podcast on Thanksgiving? Is especially if you don't give a screener for Beverly Hills, what do you think is going to happen?

Bravo. Come on people. You expect us to podcast on Thanksgiving? Is that what you want to do? We're going to watch it Wednesday night and then podcast on Thanksgiving. This is supposed to be giving thanks. Give your podcast some thanks. Am I understand that bravo's whole mission in life doesn't revolve around what what crappens

the podcast because what? That's your first mistake because it fucking shits. Our life revolves around you. We revolve around you. The least you could do is give us a fucking screener. Bravo. Seriously. My god. What do you protect? What's going on here? And 100% is and like we know that logically we understand that, but emotionally could fuck yourself. We want the screener to give it to us. We're here to support you. We love this show. Come on. So anyway, today, the one we focus on the positive things, which is Salt Lake City, which we do

get a screener for. And thank you. By the way, and thank you. And thank you. Because by the way, it's the superior show. It's the superior show and here's the ungo fuck yourself. Thank you You see it can be nice too. Thank you so much for all you do for us You see because bravo's like different little factions like every show has its little team this team love you Beverly Hills get get the fuck over this show Love Salt Lake City also Salt Lake City just firing on all cylinders being great proving you do not need a So Salt Lake City, just firing on all cylinders, being great, proving you do not need a controversy like jail prison, hard prison time to make a good show. And you don't even necessarily need fighting every week.

They have had fighting every week as drag queens and pink motels. Next week we're going to get some fighting in covered wagons and prairie clothes. So that's gonna be fun. But they prove that you don't need it, but even just having family date episodes like this one that were pretty good. Sometimes you don't need fighting. Sometimes you just need Lisa Barlow doing hip hop, you know, rapping.

Rapping out of book signing for Mormonism, okay? That's sometimes all you need, really. Also, by the way, this show really kills it with their music. We say this every week, but they started this episode. I think we've actually heard this one before, but to me, this week it really resonated with sounds of like Sarah Bareilles.

It was like if Sarah Bareilles was doing the music for Salt Lake City, because it reminded me of that song, is it the King of Anything? You know that song by Sarah Borealis? That's where I was like, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, just put a Ha in and they're like, you know what, create, they put, they sample the Ha and they said just create 90 million songs. It's like the dogs barking on Christmas. Have they do that? Yeah. Buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, buk, backback, backback, backback. It's a collab. It is.

Yeah, they should just have the choir just do random songs, you know, just like songs that are out there in the world, you know, like, it's like, what, come to my window? Okay, sure. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho Just do all the Broadway songs with us. Okay, well, we've done a great job of... I was with Millie Vanille. Alienating our audience. We're like Bravo, give us screeners. We're gonna make good content. Okay, 10 minutes if I go,

Ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Bravo, please take us seriously. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Okay, so Heather comes into some bar and she's having an event and she's like, okay, I'm

trying to satisfy it just like, Klauby. How can you do that in Salt Lake City? When we did a show in Salt Lake City, listen, beautiful town, love the mountains, okay? The people were very, very nice. You had to drink on a separately, a separately separate floor I was going to say. Okay, you did. They did not require grammar in the town, which I also like. They let me write to the doors, but you have to go up all the way to the third floor to have a drink. And the audience was on the first floor. So then we looked down the audience,

there were 10 people there, and then you look up and you just see shadows of people in Salt Lake City at the bar area. And then you just hear in the shadows. Meredith Martin is giggle all the way up on the third floor. I just want to say, you know, just as we noted that Zensation sounds like a store in Laguna Beach. I think separately separates sounds like something you would get at Salt Lake City. Like a little place where you could go get un-mentionables. Now, I hate to not yes and you on this, but technically Heather said, she wants a vibe that's more book clubby, not clubby.

Oh, you know what I wrote? Book clubby. But to be fair, she was like a red plethora dress. So it seemed like she was going for like a club vibe a little bit. Well the first thing I saw was the bar because it's a bar, right? There's like a bar there. So I guess that's why I said clubby, even though I wrote clubby. That's the kind of day we're going to have today.

Honestly, I have no idea what I'm saying. I don't know. I'll say like what people who met if we just did the Ha singing for like another hour can, that just be the recap today. And you guys just, like, you all know, you saw the show, you know what happened? Can we just sing for an hour? Mm-hmm.

So they're gonna do book clubby things. And I was like, great. So all the neighbors are gonna come in and talk about their fucking husbands and how they suck and won't do dishes instead of actually reading the book. Like, I've never been to a book clubby club and I've been to a few book club meetings where anybody's read the book.

Which by the way, I need to join a book club. Yeah, I'm here because that sounds amazing. You would kill it at the book club. You would come on in and be like, I'm reading East of Eden and girls tell me all about it. They would be like, they'd be like, well, I didn't read used to be eating because my car hit an armadillo the other day and I had to take it into the shop. And let me tell you something,

when I was there, Fritz called. And Fritz said, you better get back home here because the dishwasher's acting up and I said, well Fritz, I just hit an armadillo. I'm on tires out of whack. So what do you want? Bad tire, bad dishwasher. You gotta choose Fritz.

So anyway, I didn't read the book. That is the thing here. I was on my way to my mom's birthday this year and in the middle of the road was a dead armadillo and vultures were hunched over at Eaton's Soakly Shea. It was, it was disgusting. I'm embarrassed with a vulture. It was like a cliche movie.

I was worried from my mom. I'm like, what kind of year is this going to be for this woman? I mean, this is terrible. Like, this is the sign on the way to your birthday. Vultures eating a dead armadillo. Well, book club. Book clubs.

So anyway, by the way, Vultures eating a dead armadillo, kind of a visual metaphor for this show in some ways. So, yeah, so Heather's gonna do another book thing. She's really squeezing out every last drop of this book tour. Enough so that she, the book tour is clearly over and she's just doing like another stop. She's like, okay, we ran out of venues so we're just gonna go to the corner store and read some pages out of this book.

So, God bless. Then we go to Angie. Angie in her cold, emotionless home, her white home with occasional pink accents. And she has gathered her petrified poodle, um, Sylia, Sylia, and she's like, Sylia, hi pretty girl, look at you, you, should we brush your hair, does this feel good, does this feel like you're drinking a glass of Last of Uzu, it's Greek. I was glad she got a scene in. You know, these scenes don't have to necessarily be exciting, but Angie brushing her dog, huh?

I was like, can we follow her husband instead? Please. I know, please. Can we just get hidden cameras? Just for a while, the guy is so hot. I saw this guy at BravoCon. What a hotty, huh? Oh my God, he's hot.

Just, he is really, I mean, he's cute on TV and everything. But in real life, I was like, oh my God, put a hidden camera on this person. I want something. Even if there's a hint of gay, I want to know about it. So even if it's just like musically, even if he's just in his car listening to Les Mis, if it's just that kind of gay, like that level of gay, I'm fine with that. I need to know. The man is beautiful. Okay, so it's just that kind of gay, like that level of gay, I'm fine with that. I need to know. The man is beautiful.

Okay, so she's brushing her dog. Oh, so then we go to Lisa's house and a no Whitney's house and Lisa's pulling up and trying to figure out how to get into a poor person gate, which is hilarious. Like she's just standing there waiting for it to open for her, like, okay, here I am, gay. How does this work? How does this work? How does this work?

Both of you came up in Egg Wetna. Whitney's white picket fence is also very hilarious to me because I feel like picket fences speak of a different time in America. It speaks to sort of a midwestern or New England town with lovely little hills and everything like that in a town square. And this is just a planned community

that Whitney's in, just attempting to capture some of that nostalgia. And I was like, that is just so Whitney to just have this kitschy white picket fence that is not functional at all and if anything is just annoying to people. Well, it's funny because Whitney's whole vibe, like she was trying to do the whole sex

kitten thing for her first few years. Yeah, there's that too. She's like, I am so sexy. I used to be a Mormon, but then I got kicked out, so now I'm sexy. And she was doing like her chocolate art sex, getting smacked in the butt scene, and then we're going to do stripper pole class at my house. And now she's trying to do, and she always had the picket fence. But now I feel like she's leaning into the picket fence like I'm picket fence

Whitney cursing in front of my children. How dare you. I just bought her a car. I supported Sag After and the writers guild because I pick it at two with my fence. Big week for fences on Brava by the way, just noticed, between Karen Huger and Whitney, big fence week for us. Hey, I can't get in your fence with me. I am the fence. Karen just, like, stop picking at me, all right? Just, here's your saddle, go ahead and ride me on the fence.

Whitney's on one side of the fence. you are on the other side of the fence while I'm hunting, I am the fence. I'm taking ownership of this metaphor today. So Lisa does manage to open up the picket fence and now you know what though, like they made fun of her, they made the music stop as she was trying to get through the picket fence. And it was funny, but let's be honest, we've all been there where you're like,

oh, some fucking ornamental fence that I now, the last doesn't work, I have to now reach behind the fence to make it work, which I hate doing. I actively hate when I have to reach behind someone's fence or something to get to open it up. It's just so old. It's one of those things.

Like, haven't we come up with better ideas yet to open a fence? Like, it's on the other side of the fence. I get it, so you can open it from the inside. But it's not like people on the outside are just not going to come in, because they can't figure out that there's a latch over there. Everybody knows that there's a latch.

So make sure it's something on the front. Make it easier on the front. Have it this adornab. Why don't you put a adornab on your fence? OK. So that's what I'm saying a adornab on your fence? Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Like modernize the fence. Yes.

I mean, and modernize all your doors too. You can't have some doors that slide open, some glass doors that slide open in a store, and then something don't. I have walked, I literally walked into a door last week. I felt so stupid. And of course there were a ton of people watching me, and someone actually said people do that. I was like, no they they don't it eats do that. I just literally walked to a door

Now I don't know myself for walking into it maybe but you can't just half a half and half commit Are we gonna have sliding doors? We're we not gonna have sliding fucking doors target. Yeah, I'm sorry that that happened to you At least no vultures came by and picked at you. You know? But they thank you. You know what? Was it Robert Frost? You said, good fences make good neighbors? Well, let me tell you something.

I'm reading my first piece of literature. You can't. I'm just starting with Steinbeck. You can't start destroying all this literature. The point is, good fences make good neighbors, but functional fences make functional neighbors, OK? You know what? Make good neighbors walls without fences. That's what I say.

Fuck him. It was from the Mending Wall, which is from, it looks like it's from Robert Frost. Nailed it. Yes. Got the Robert Frost reference in everyone. Thank you so much. You've been listening to Watcher Crappens. If you want to send us any screeners or poetry by Robert Frost, just hit us up.

Thank you. Love is bank, great credit ratings. Okay, so let's go here. So she finally gets through the gate and Whitney answers the door and she's in her PJs. So Lisa's like, what are you tired of something? And she's like, I'm sorry, I'm in pajamas because Justin is on the business trip

without his wedding ring, which I'm sure it's gonna work out great. So I just been making shakutaris and I'm gonna chill and just watch stuff on the couch. Yeah, I'm having the kids upstairs watching movie because I just can't do with this anymore. So Lisa's like, oh my gosh! Heather's calling me right now.

Hold on one second, it's Heather, okay. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha's calling me right now. Hold on one second, it's Heather's gay. Heather! Heather's calling Heather. So Heather calls up and she's like, what's up Lisa Barlow? Um, I'm at Whitney's. It's Heather Whitney. Whitney's on Heather! I'm with Buzz on my past days right now!

And um, so Heather's like, oh wow, two little peas in a pot over there. Wow, I had no idea. So that's great. So happy for you. Glad you're friends, guys. So Lisa, I thought you could intro me at the book event. You know, you could have a mic. You could sing your greatest tips like, away in a manger.

I'm here. I love it. I love it so much. Like Lisa doesn't even question. She just knows that it's like her bit and she's like any chance to do it. I will do it. Okay, it's my thing. So Lisa is like, oh my god, she loves me now. She loves me. And when he says, wait a minute, do we have to read the book now? I guess we'll have to read the part about us. So Lisa says, by the way, I'm like and hollering your food right now. Are you gonna eat? Are you gonna eat right now?

And when he's like, yeah, oh, and I have like prison leftovers that you, oh, I remember prison. Remember that was the event. You probably didn't see that we had left like you probably didn't see the original food that became leftovers because remember, you were yelling instead. Yeah, I was a bar. I was a bar. She had, and Whitney goes,

what the fuck happened? Just note that Whitney's cursing. It's important later in the sink. That isn't what she's thinking. What the fuck happened? And Lisa says, well, I don't know. It was just so weird. The whole thing was just so weird.

I was so weird. And she's like doing that Like grabbing both sides of her hair thing and when he's like, yeah, well, I'm kind of horrified that you got active Like you guys acted like that in my prison event. That was my prison event. I have prison leftovers from my prison event This from prison. I have prison. I didn't start it wet. Neat. No, I didn't start it. I don't care who started it Like you both should have enough self awareness, like self control, to know that like you're screaming and yelling. And screaming and yelling and screaming at my business.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Wait, wait, what did I scream? What did I scream at your time? Tell me what I scream. Tell me what I scream, Brian, tell me what I scream to cheer about. I can hear you scream, stop, okay, stop it. Okay,ur is great, Brian. Timur, what is your favorite moment? I can hear you scream. Stop it. Okay, stop it.

Okay, okay. Cut two. Please stop talking to me. And then Whitney going, stop it. And she goes, yeah, I said, please stop talking to me. You know why? Because she wouldn't stop talking to me, Whitney. Okay, she wouldn't stop talking to me.

And Whitney is like, yeah, but it was during a sun bath Well if anyone seems to have issues with bath apparently it's Whitney Surprise you didn't report your own bath to page six because that's apparently what you love to do Sorry, I will see myself out of the scene Okay, Whitney, so it's my thought that Monica's retake you guys It's that it's not just anything that's reticulous. It's that it's that was just that it's my father's just reticulous. It is about your father and I was really upset with both of you. Probably a little more with you because I

know you I know that you know my brand. Prism. You know my brand and you know my heart, which is also prison. And you know my journey, which is also prison. And you know my journey, which is also prison. You know my prison journey. But Whitney, is Whitney cutting me right now? Like Whitney if all of the people should not be talking to me about a bad etiquette. Like did you forget about Coach Shaw's birthday party? Okay, you're gonna bring up coach

Shaw's birthday party at Topgolf. That was season one. That was a long time ago. You're on season 19 now. Okay, we have to forgive Whitney somethings. Maybe I should be mad at her, having a cash bar? I know for her.

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Like, I don't feel like she likes Monica and like, I don't feel like Monica likes her. So like, I don't know what these side conversations are. Oh, well hold on a minute. The Whitney detective is coming out. Hold on, let me scrunch my nose. Wait a minute. Are you set by that? Because now I'm putting it all together.

Do do do do do do do do do do. Why are you making that sound? Now it's the sound in my head that only I can hear while I'm having a memory as I saw cases No, I could hear it. Now you can't doodily doodily. I can hear that with me. Okay. Well now that I'm putting it together I do remember you got really upset when they were hugging each other Well, stupid living. Wow, wait me. You really got it on that one, Matlock.

Well, contradicts what Angie was saying, like, the ocular doesn't match the words. Did you really say ocular, did I hear that right? She said the ocular doesn't match the words. The ocular. The ocular. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. The ocular doesn't match the words. Also, the words. The ocular. The ocular. The ocular doesn't match the words. Also the vision, the words. The visual doesn't match the words. Like what does she say?

Well she's saying that like, my, and I know what she's saying, but what does she think? What does she trying to say? She's trying to say the optics because later on she says the optics, but this time she says ocular. What I'm trying to say is the ocular does not match the words. Also the words don't match the words. You know what I want better oculars. That's that. And Whitney is like, Yeah, well, ding, do do do do do do do I can say here you wait me. Okay, well, I do think there's a weird sense that Angie has to please you because I do see it because I do think that

Angie does placate your own weight in minute. Who wrote Spanish on here? It says, play Kate with me. Jesus Christ. You need better optics. Oh, okay. Let's do it again. From the top.

Well, I guess there's some truth in that because like, Angie G keeps on like trying to brush me and saying there you go, and then die my feet pink. But no, no, no, no, that's not the case. She is not trying to block out me. So when he says, did it, did it, did it, did it. Hold on. I can hear you. Oh, has she ever stood up to you? Why are you turning in circles? Why are you turning in circles with me? I'm process. I'm processing I think we wait this just in Do do I think your trigger is shit I

Think your trigger is shit over Angie and Monica. Oh really? No, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna tell you I feel I'm'm gonna have to, I'm gonna tell you how I feel. I'm gonna tell you how I feel. I'm gonna tell you how I feel. So no one asked to guess. Okay? Are you still here? Doodle to do back. I think you're in the past. Oh wait, hold on. Doodle doodle doodle. Okay, I'm here. I have no problem with Monica. Other than she upset my friend. And that is the end of the story. So I'm not triggered by that front job. I'm triggered by like, what the fuck are you doing? Anj? What are you doing, Anj? When he's like, yeah, you know what?

It can be very difficult to talk to Lisa because she only sees through her perspective and if you don't see through her perspective, then she gets mad. And I can see why Anj is hesitant to tell her because Lisa is going to take it as a personal attack. Let's go back to Lisa. Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude't lie, don't lie, if you're gonna call me and say like, if you're calling me up and saying like, fucking Monica, fuck her, fuck her, fucking Monica, okay, don't do not call me about that, because don't say, don't be like, fuck her this, fuck her that, fuck her in the goat ass, fuck her in the face, fuck her all times at night, like, do not call me about that and then hang out with her. And Brooks is looking around the corner from the stairs. And what needs like, well, Lisa, I curse in front of my friends, but I don't curse in my home. And my kids cannot hear the, Oh, okay,

understood, understood. Yeah, but my kids cannot hear cursing in the home. I just did multiple. Yeah, sex. Yeah, yeah, I'm last year trying to convince America That was just one, but they played it multiple times on television trying to convince everyone that Justin is a very sexual creature style Yeah, yeah, got it got it. Hold on one second. Hey, other Brooks Brooks number two other Toddly Brooks one second. Hey, other Brooks, Brooks number two, other Toddly Brooks, go upstairs, shut the door. We're not fighting. The mean lady's being nice. She's cursing because she's passionate about things. Understood. Understood. Understood. Understood. Understood. Now, I don't like this in my house because I have children in my house. Okay, with me. Understood. Understood. Yeah, because you know what? Childrens hear things and then they do things because they're children and right now

I'm alone in a house and I have children in it with a house. Lisa, can't felt the words you choose. Children will listen. Oh my God, grains, grains and nothing but grains. Pricely peppers, God, it doesn't celebrate us. Rodergras and Federal friends and ladders. I said, all right, because it wasn't quiet, because I caught him in my autumn and my autumn one night.

He was robbing me, a word I'm not supposed to use anymore. Reading through my reader bag, a rating my wriggling, a ripping up my rampia and my champion my favorite. I should have laid a spell on him right there. I should have turned him into a stone, her dog, her chair, but I let him have the rampia. Because I lost his fair.

I said, you know what? However, fair is fair. You could let me have the baby that, because I lost his fare. I said, you know what? However, fare is fair. You could let me have the baby that your wife will bear, and we'll call it square. That's what you get for bringing up into the woods. Got it, got it, got it with me. I just realized, my flashback music sounds like they're refrained from into the woods.

Diddly do, diddly do, diddly do. Diddly do, diddly do, diddly do. Into the woods, into the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods.

To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods.

To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To the woods. To thearolo doing the witches route into the woods. Can we just have a moment for that? Everyone please just pause what you're doing. Pause. Everyone pause. Might be eight percent of audiences like fuck this show officially. What the fuck is this show even talking about?

But I'm putting it out there guys because you have to put things out there. If you want them, I will be playing the witch in into the woods one day if I have to buy my own dinner theater to do it Well, you're supposed to buy that theater in Palm Springs do not forget I know I'm willing it I'm not gonna buy I want someone to buy it for me. Don't we have anybody rich out there who wants to buy me Your shall show come on come on picture shall show Okay, so Lisa's like yeah, and when I come to the end, she has to figure out like does she want that relationship or not?

Because like, great, if you do, then don't tell me that you don't, you know why? Because like, I'm treggard, that's what's treggaring. I just don't like being lied to about it, you know what me? And when he's like, that's fucking right. By the way, Roger actively, let me remind you all of a sudden like, oh I'm Emily Poss and I'm gonna like explain you how to behave. Well let me get you a copy bitch because the first rule is don't make your guts feel uncomfortable. I'm like okay, she's so mad about being judged.

Whitney is such a hypocrite that she curses and gets somebody wild up and then she's like, oh my god, you are cursing in my home, a around my innocent children who I just bought a vehicle for at age 13. I know, okay, wait. My children, you cannot curse in my children, otherwise how would they learn how to drive their golf carts on highways? You literally just bought a golf cart so your daughter could drunk drive you around the town. Can we please drop the innocent?

You're interrupting their time on my stripper pole. So now we go over to Heather. She's arriving at an enormous, enormous door. And of course, I'd forgotten what the door was, but it's Mary's house. Heather is at Mary's house. And this is Heather's first time at Mary's house. And so Heather's like, when Mary invited me to see where she lives, there was no question.

I mean, Grandpa Joe gets out of bed for two reasons. Willy Wonka's chocolate factory and Mary Cosby's house tour. And also my book event that I'm going to be having later this episode, I just want to say. Hmm, Mary Cosby's decor is just like her personality. You never quite know what you're going to get. Green carpet. Hmm, Mary Cosby's decor is just like her personality. You never quite know what you're gonna get. Green carpet, Chanel pillows, Dr. Sue Shares from Hooville. It's terrifying.

What? What it is. I mean, this house really is just like a high end consignment store. It's just all the Chanel books and little mannequin heads. You know, we've seen the house before, but it just gets crazier. I feel like every time we go into this. And Mary has also blown out her hair. So it's like up high in the front.

It's just like doing this big tall thing. It's not like, it's vaguely Mad Max. I'm just like, oh, what do we have in have in store for us? I've seen what is going to happen. So Mary, they sit down and these and the famous like multi-colored wacky colored two-tall owls and wonderland chairs. And Mary is like, well, I just wanted to have you over just to talk with you because we've always had a connection and you can say no if you don't agree. But like I always feel connected to you. And I think that's the spiritual side of thing.

It's our church upgrowing, with our upgrowing in church. And there's like, yes, yes, up bringing, yes, yes, up bringing. You hate Heather, you've always hated Heather. What the fuck are you talking about? You have a connection with Heather. You hate Heather. And you both grew up in church, but Heather was traumatized by her.

You're the one who traumatizes people in yours. And in case people don't remember, go look up Mary Cosby yells at congregation when she doesn't get enough birthday gifts and calls everybody poor. But I'm so crazy. I'll never forget it. I have it on my favorite list on my iTunes or whatever it's called now, like my Apple music. It's on a playlist in there where she's just like What are you a bunch of poor people?

You didn't get me anything. I hardly got any cards from my birthday. Same on you. She wanted like Chanel per se Some shit from these people who were barely struggling to make it, you know, or struggling to barely make it. Okay, so anyway, that's a class. That's it. That is a married class day. So, um, so then, um, Heather's like, yeah, I think it's understanding each other's spiritual backgrounds for sure. Did you bring me a purse? Ah, here, here, this is my purse. Thank you. Thank you. And so, thank you for not being poor today. You may have a slice of cheese. So Mary says that, you know, she never got to really spend one on one time with Heather because Heather was always up under Jen's, you know, but, and, but now that Jen has gone, now she can get to know Heather. So that's, that's Mary's whole thing.

It's kind of like a doover because she's just, she's putting everything onto Jen this season. So that's why she's able to come back around and stuff. So she asked like, how is it feel to not be at the church and Heather's like, well, I mean, it's been a tumultuous time for me because I don't have the resources I used to have. I used to have a church community.

I used to have a church I could go to every Sunday, but I wrote a book slamming the church and the church community. And now all of a sudden, I don't have those things anymore. It just feels like what? You can't even write a book like just publicly publicly taking down Institutions and then those institutions just don't want you anymore. Is that like how it works these days?

I mean what the hell she's like, but I wrote the book and you know how our community is you know We don't take kindly to the center is or to critics of the faith and Mary's like mm-hmm. Yeah, we don't accept them take kindly to the center or to critics of the faith. Mary's like, mm-hmm, yeah, we don't accept them. So I should limit this time that we have here since I am still part of the faith community. So seriously, eat a piece of cheese, because your time is limited, okay, center. Okay, so while you're here, oh, and she tells us,

I feel like Heather wants it both ways. I mean, she wants her community, but she wants God, but she wants her faith, and then she wants her dark side, you know, which was wearing jeans. God. We're going for a wedding and not wearing small ballerro jacket. You want to show up at a, you want to love God and then show up at a wedding with shoulders. Okay. Good luck to you, man. So Mary's like, you have to pick a side. So then Mary's like, oh, and speaking of the book.

And then she goes, yeah, so you read the book. She goes, well, I read the part that you wrote about me. And she's basically like, she's like, you know, I remember that part because it wasn't true. And so Heather's like, what, oh, she, listen, every single word of that was true. Absolutely. Listen, the only book I like being written around about in is the Bible. Okay.

Because I'm God. I didn't say that. Did I say that? Did somebody say I said that? I did not say that. I'm God poor person. So she did that what, what Heather, I actually listened to Heather's book, Ding, research, book of Mormon, not book of Mormon. God, that was a great musical.

With a great book, actually. But I listened to Heather's book and she doesn't say anything bad about Mary. She said that everybody was kind of scared of Mary because Mary's treated like a superstar in that town. She didn't know Mary and so she went to meet her for dinner at Valtors or something and she said that all of the staff bent over backwards and was just like, oh Mary, what can we do?

We've got something special in from out of the country just for you, Mary. You know, it's kind of like, I don't know the set of Annie while we're on musicals. Like, we got Annie and just bringing her like trays of shit in the mansion. And she's like, I've been to Valtors and I've never been treated like this, but that Mary just has this celebrity in the city where everybody's just following over themselves to please her. And they brought them both something,

like an appetizer or something. And Mary didn't even taste it. She just looked at it and went, no. And then they took them both away. And I was like, what was it? Like I don't even know what that was. Like how do you know it doesn't taste good? And she's like, I don't like the look of that.

So Mary, it's just so funny that like Mary has this cloud. And she, she acts that Mary has this cloud. And she acts like she has the cloud. I mean, she does that. We see her do that all the time. Like we saw what last week, when Mary went to tell off Whitney at that restaurant last week or two weeks ago, and the waitress spilled on her.

Well, I mean, that's never good, but just like the way that Mary treats service people, she acts fully like she is a royal. And it's funny because it's like Marikazby in these wacky chairs with the green carpet. And this is the lady that everyone's like, oh, Marikazby's coming in. Yeah, she just pulls it off, you know?

It's like when you believe that about yourself, I guess people fall for it. Like they do. They're gonna about you. And, you know, yeah, that waiter like shaking with the soup is like, no, you did not just spill on me. We got Mary Cosby at table 13, be careful. So, yeah, so I had to read like a passage

and then Mary is basically like, you know, you're making me sound like I'm just like bougie poised woman, and there goes, Mary, you are bougie and poised, you know, you're making me sound like I'm just like bougie poised woman. And there goes, Mary, you are bougie and poised. Just, no, I'm not. I like someone angry that someone called them poised. I am not poised. I have not.

I do not have self-control. Yeah, how dare you call me elusive and forthcoming equal parts elusive and forthcoming. Engaging and disinterested. How dare you call me elusive and forthcoming? Equal parts elusive and forthcoming. Engaging and disinterested. How dare you? And it says, I agreed with anything and everything she said. And when she corrected my grammar, my pronunciation, my diet, my appearance, I hung my head in shame. And I thanked her sincerely. We've seen it happen on this show.

I mean, that is 100% Mary. And Heather loves it, because you know, Heather's like, oh my god, I was so bullied by her. It was great. I feel like Heather, she's amazing. Heather is endlessly amused by Mary. And she's like, okay, I did my season where we had to go after her, but now I'm actually just being amused

by this kooky lady. So Heather's like, she says that if anything, I know I didn't say anything bad on top of that I aired on the side of caution. So Mary's like I just I want you to know that I care about you whatever your name is. And Heather's like well I feel like the place that we're in now like I feel like we're in like we're in a good place now when I wrote the book like maybe we were both careless with the mean things we said to each other and that's what got in the book. America's okay. Like I wasn't careless. Yeah. And she's, yeah,

you know, Mary, I mean, there were harsh words exchanged. Just right, Mary. And she's like, um, what did you feel was harsh? I just gave you a piece of cheese. So you spit the cheese. Uh, spit it in the napkin. How did it go? Because I feel like you were harsh towards me. How was it harsh towards you? Did you give me cheese? You've never given me cheese. So, and I had this like, well, I mean,

you said I didn't even know I look in bread. But I'm gonna be like, I was ding! And we see the clip of Mary on that trip two years earlier, looking out the window while everybody was fighting it at the dinner that she refused to participate in. She's just looking at the window, mumbling to herself, going, wow, look at there, his Heather with her judgmental self.

She has a snobbyness of a true Mormon. She doesn't even know she looks inbred. So Heather goes back to her presence, Heather goes, I mean, do you think I look inbred? And Mary smiles and goes, I do. I do. I do. Yeah. It's kind of like, Hey, um, did you go to Santa Fe recently?

Did you like Santa Fe? I did. I did like Santa Fe. Yeah. It was nice. I do. There's like what? And she goes, did that bother you?

Yes, it bothered her. That bother me when I said that. So Mary's, well, didn't you marry your you? Yes, it bothered her. That bothered when I said that. So, Mara's, well, didn't you marry your grandfather? That's also the thing. Like, are you kidding? So, Heather's like, well, yeah, I mean, it means I look ugly, Mary.

It's just, well, if that bothered you, then she doesn't say like, no, you don't look ugly. That's not what I meant. She's like, well, if that bothered you, then let me just apologize now, because I was angry and I'm sorry. Like really, I'm sorry. I would never want to intentionally hurt you

or say things that aren't true. I mean, so do you look like the product of a brother and sister? You didn't pregnant each other, you know? That's, it's not your choice. Yeah, you know? You know, there are a lot of beautiful people that came from long lines of incest, you know, look at

Mac the night, you know, a man doesn't just get a head the shape of a moon by not being in bread. It's okay. It works out Who's Mac the night? I was like a random McDonald's mascot. It was the first thing I came into my brain. I'm sorry everyone It was when in the 80s when McDonald's was like, we're open later at the step that got the sky who was like, I love the not sure example of in-proud because you're like, Mac the night. That guy looks impressed. Well, I was like, I didn't want to actually go after anyone who might be in bread.

Because people were like, that is me. That's why I was asked. I was like, me go to the first. The were you taking down today, Ben? She is. I was like, Mac, do you remember those commercials? He was like, Mac the night. He was like,

because McDonald's was open late at night, so this guy would come out with a moon head. And he would be like, it was like Mac the knife, but he'd be like, Mac the night, I'm looking at it right now. Images, let me see.

For 99% big, oh, the moon. You just said that. But I didn't mean to say, I was in a little suit. Yeah, it mean to say I was an alert suit. Yeah, it's like I was picturing a moon like my face. Like a big moon, like a big brown Charlie Brown. Mac tonight, not Mac the night,

but Mac tonight by the way, I mean, he's clearly in red. He's got a big long skinny sliver of a moon head. Yeah, he's like a, he's a crescent moon head. By the way, Mac, Mac tonight, very, he definitely would not have fitted with the rest of the McDonald's like mascots like you know, I'm glad they got rid of him. He will. Well, I mean, they probably all hated him. I'm sure like early bird hated him. They're like, he's got of a purve. Well, he is in Brad, so we try to be nice to him. Don't call him in Brad though, apparently they get offended by that.

He is a model of probably one of the most successful in Brad people that we know. Mac tonight. Mac tonight. Okay, so she's like, well, if that bothered you, I'm sorry. And Heather's like, well, thank you, because, you know, it's hard. Like, a lot of people are mad at me for what I wrote in the book. And you're not the first one to come and say you're upset, you know? I was trying to tell my story as authentically as possible without hurting people's feelings, you know, but at some point, a girl just wants to wear regular panties.

I mean, it was worth it. And Mary's like, well, I'm proud of you Heather. And she goes, well, and one day you can write your own book, and you'll see how hard it is to be authentic, but also be kind. What I'm trying to say is, please write a book because we cannot wait to see what would be in your book. Okay, can you do that for us Mary?

Thanks. What makes you think Mary is even gonna try to be kind in her book. Okay, Mary, do that for us? Mary, thanks. What makes you think Mary is even gonna try to be kind to her book? Okay. If this, like, oh my God, could you imagine, it's just gonna be a burn book. Mary's book will be absolutely amazing. It will be, well, it'll also be like sad.

You know, it'll be actually surprisingly sad, but it'll be also amazing. But in a way that she doesn't know is sad. That she's like, yeah. So then, I inherited my grandfather. And we got Mary. Yeah, and it know is sad. That she's like, yeah. So then I inherited my grandfather. And we got married. Yeah, and it's been great. That's exactly right.

It's been great. So then Heather's like, well, Mary takes it seriously. And she's like, yeah, I don't know if I want to write a book, actually, like she's just thinking about it. She's just, but maybe, maybe I will. It's like Heather's not pitching it to you. She's just saying.

So Heather's like, well, your house is grand. We should have a party here, Mary. She says, okay, a party is one thing, but you know, the people who actually come, that matters to me. So why are you still here? Do it your Jesus. I have a new inbred policy, unfortunately. So you won't be able to attend. Did that hurt you? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Do you have a date with your brother that you can get to? Sorry, I'm sorry. Do you have a date with your brother that you can get to? Cause she's still in my house. Your brother or father, son.

So, um, okay, bye Uncle Fucker. Okay, see you later. She's my daughter. She's my sister. She's, oh, I forgot. Well, I think I did that once before and you're like, then what are you doing? Green, green, nothing but greens, parsley, pep.

Any was that soap nose Chinatown? My other time, oh yeah, we've already been down that road, okay? Clearly my illusions are now moving towards Moody night time figures. Like I'm going to film noir, I got Mac tonight and I'm going to Chinatown. Get pretty hard boiled over here. I remember when we were talking about Robert Frost.

So now we go to Meredith's house. And Meredith is sitting down with a laptop and like a microphone to do a podcast. Okay, well, here we go. I got the squad casting open and just like you taught me last time and okay, well, I actually never closed the software just to be totally transparent.

I think I got distracted trying to turn on Nick Jr. for my toddler Brooks. He was getting bored in the other room. So, Swadcast did not get shut down properly. All right, gay person that is only put on this earth and help women do things. I've been this gay person. I felt few Antonio because I was this gay person

many years ago, like 12 years ago, for Leah Black, where she's like, oh podcast, I wanna do a podcast. How do you set the bond? Yes. You know what? Talk to the gay. So she's like, Ronnie, you do podcasts. How do you do podcasts? I just sit on the phone with Leah and her assistant

for two hours I swear to God. Leah, your internet's not working. Where is it? I don't see it, it's invisible. Okay, you have to find the internet. Well, I don't know where it is. Take a picture of where we are. And then they send me this just big closet space of cords

because you know people with mansions just have like a closet where there's all the cords coming out. And so her poor assistant is in there trying to figure And we are sitting there in a turbine like we're gonna be on the internet This is the biggest center. This is the biggest channel on TV right now everyone's into the internet. It's like oh my god So whenever I see These scenes I'm like I've lived the scene and I feel frantonio because this says podcast producer

But Antonio doesn't know how to do this Antonio knew how to do it. He would have known how to press record remotely or like how do you have a podcast producer? We're using software can't hit record on the software. I mean like shouldn't you? Honestly, we've done it a million times over the past 12 years So we've been there and we get it, but I see what you like. I just think that this is some gay that Meredith has seen do a video on Instagram and she's like, oh my god, that person does Instagram things and he's a gang, you haven't come over, you're only with the army. This was not a good advertisement for squad cast, by the way, because it just showed that like not even Meredith Marx could do it.

So, or gay people, honestly. Yeah. I mean, I feel like how soon that's all over the place, we're like, you know what? How many are considering the gay? I'm really fucked up, those podcast. So, Meredith is trying to, she's like, okay, so do I, hit join session, hold on, hold on. And so then, I'm just trying to figure this out.

Antonio's like, I thought you were a techie person. Well, I was really good at the first part of plugging everything in. Now, what part do you press the button and you get to make white beans salad? Because that's a little bit more in my wheelhouse. Welcome back to Hanging By The Ram, a podcast where we all put our hands together to cut a lemon. Oh, did I lose you? Oh, I thought you... I thought you were still speaking. I thought you were... I didn't know it was my turn to speak.

I thought it was our karma for making fun of Antonio the gay podcast producer. Streamy Ardor's like fuck you too, okay? You want to talk like that about a fellow gay? This is what you get. I've been as no longer in this. I thought you had like taken an inhale, like a surprise inhale and were like about to resume. So I was just sitting there smiling.

Welcome to hanging by a white bean salad with Meredith Marx and the other guy who's possibly going to be divorced in about five minutes south. We're picking up where we left off last time, which is going to our wedding. I must think about our wedding south. And so it's like, he starts making these noises into the microphone, like very unappetizing noises. No wonder why I didn't record it. I think the software probably has like an auto shut off. They're like, ah, sorry, this is against squad gas,

pod gasing policies. We have to shut down. The Seth gave squad gas pick. Yeah. You're like, ugh. I'm sorry, this is the first case where software has actually canceled your podcast. So Meredith is like, well, Seth and I have really busy

schedules and we can't necessarily get together every single week to record a podcast. So we have to have some of them banned. So making sure we actually have something on the air every week, but like me really set the end of the job is like, we get it. We don't know the schedule of your podcast. We're just watching your podcast. It's're, we don't know the schedule for your podcast. We're just watching your podcast.

It's okay. We don't need to know the whole background. Yeah. And she's like, all right. Well, let's start with our wedding. And Seth says, well, you wanted a huge production member. Yeah, that was a 300 gas 350. And you had to have it at the Ritz Carlton.

It's like, Alex didn't have to be at the Ritz. Don't be ridiculous. He's like, he could have been at the four seasons. That's true. Because we did have our prenuptial dinner at the four seasons. Remember that? God, this lady, high class lady here. Am I right, squad cat?

Hey, Antonio, are you still there? Yeah, she's high class, huh? Am I right? Hey, if you talked about white bean salad yet, 350 people, white bean salad. What a woman. And so he was like, wait, did you guys have a prenup? And Merriss, well, now when we have a post-nap, we also have a toddler nap, but that's more just like a little toy.

You give it, it's called a little nipper, and you give it to them, they chew on. It's really adorable. You can go find them in limited quantities. Anyway, the reason why we had a post-knop is 15 years into the mall is we were very disconnected. For me at that point in time, I was moving with three children from Chicago to this Bumble-Fuck-Snowy Hell where there wasn't even an idea of being a TV show. So you can imagine there was no app side for me except to sell some pieces of copper on the roadside to tourists who were dumb enough to buy them. So I thought

great, this isn't going to lead well to probably leave me for some snow bunny on another mountain and I'm going to be stuck here with three babies, two babies really. I want to count the white beans out as my third baby and a bunch of tears. So yeah, I was pretty concerned about our thing that we're marriage. And she has three children. I do have a third child. Yeah, she does. She does.

The third one is like, I'm too hot to be on TV. Sorry. You think your other children are hot? I'm even hotter and I will not be on TV. Let's pretend I don't exist. Well, unfortunately, the third child's not in the post enough, but the white beans sound it is There was nothing financial about it. There was

Strickly rules about beans, salads and Costity of beans and salads and also children maybe and so Seth was like wait a minute you were afraid I was gonna leave you. Come on. The hottest dish in town, am I right Antonia? Look at this one. And she's like, yeah, I was, I was. And she tells us, you know, I don't think Seth remembers how bad things really were. She's always terrified he's leaving her.

She can't be in Utah, like women don't get respect in the divorce, you know? And so she's like, it was very bad. So then Seth explains that during this time, he believed it was the man's responsibility to provide for the family and nothing else, you know. That was nothing else. There was no other responsibility. And your responsibility was to make the money and work as hard as you can. And if the kids need help with homework or anything else, that's just not the dad's job, you know?

That's kind of how I grew up. Is that how you grew up? No, it's not. My dad worked, obviously, he worked pretty hard, but my mom also worked. And so I don't think my mom would have ever put up with my dad saying like, like you take out the kids, I'm gonna work. I mean, my mom did, you know,

like my mom did, she stopped working to raise us, but like when I was in second grade, second or third grade or so, she started her own business. She was like, okay, the kids seem to be old enough. I can start working again. I'm not gonna, I'm not, I here again. I'm not gonna start being doing something from beyond this as well.

Yeah, my mom had stuff going on, like my mom partied a lot. Like she was in junior league and then later she opened restaurants and stuff like that. So she had stuff, but my dad was gone all the time working and he would take us to school occasionally or something like that. I mean, he didn't have absolutely zero responsibility but it was kind of like that.

And last week in Southern Charm, we got a comment, it wasn't rude or anything, it was just saying, I noticed that when you guys criticize people's upbringing, you say things about the mom, like, do you have no mother? Which know, which I do say a lot. And she said, I noticed you never blamed the dads, which is kind of normal. It's like part of the patriarchy or whatever.

Which I agree, but I think that I was, I'd never really noticed that until someone said it, but now that I think of it, that is just how I was raised. So I'm just used to the dad being like, not my responsibility. I were. You know?

God, it really does show how things have to be- Well, there's also, I guess, like, Dara bring up a Bill Cosby joke, but like there is a famous Bill Cosby joke where like the joke is basically like he's talking about being a dad and dad does this, that does that. Dad takes the kid to sports. Dad picks up the daughter for, to bring in this place, that place talks about all the things. And then the first thing, like the kid, something amazing happens in the kid's life. The kid's like, thanks mom. You know, it's like, in some ways, in weird ways, also the dad's, dad sometimes just also

get a raise from the picture for when they, for the things that they do do. But it's complicated obviously because you're right. Like it's totally, you know, there's a patriarchal stuff going on here where we just kind of, you know, just assume that this is all the mom's responsibility. Yada, yada, yada. But, but also, I don't know, like that's the thing being like, I thought I only had to help up financially and in no other way. Yeah, but like also like your kids are 21, 22, which means you raise your kids in the 2000s,

you do not raise your kids in like 1945, okay? Like, I'm that's true. People had pretty, like it was, people have pretty evolved opinions on how to raise kids. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with raising it in that arrangement. But like to be like, oh, I thought that's just the way it is. I'm like, it was, you're in the 2000s.

I know you're acting like. I was at least born in 75, you know what I mean? But yeah, anyway, I don't know why I went on that. I was not hilarious or whatever, but it's interesting hearing people talk about it. What? It's emotional. Oh, you know what?

It's so emotional guys. I'm so sorry. I haven't been recording this episode. Well, you just got so emotional. I'm sorry. We didn't get any of that. Well, Seth actually does get emotional. He's like, you know, I just, I, I, I wasn't there for you.

I wasn't there from an emotional standpoint. You know, I was just there from a sex symbol standpoint. You know, did you want me sure? Did everybody sure? But was I there for the way that you really needed me? I wasn't. And I regret that. And I apologize for that.

Truly Meredith. I apologize. And I apologize for that. Truly Meredith. I apologize for their holding hands. Thanks for having me. Thank you, honey. And because I take responsibility. And she goes, uh-oh, is this recording? Because what? You didn't catch that?

Oh, gosh, you're shitting me. Come on. Did you not not get that shit that was golden? I was crying, kid. I worked my way up for four hours just to cry on this podcast. And you didn't even get that. It's like finally a man in history admitting

that he was not fulfilling the role he was supposed to in that relationship. And it wasn't recorded. Yeah, it's like, dammit. That's like the very first episode of Watch Your Crappens. It was. The first episode of Watch Your Crappens famously never made it to error because the file got corrupted.

So, and the thousands and the thousand, 1500s and the two thousand, so because we still do it. Constant. Oh, no, I, at the Bolasco theater, we literally had no audio. But that one we actually re-did that episode. We're like, fuck it.

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