Watch What Crappens - #2227 RHOSLC Part 2: Watch What Rappens

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Welcome back to part 2 of our Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (S04E10) recap.  Lisa Barlow drops it like it’s lukewarm with a hip hop remix of “Away in a Manger” for Heather’s ...book event.  Plus, Monica gets her car back, but not without more drama.Get all our video recaps and bonuses at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 love to talk about. We are here picking up where we left off on Salt Lake City. It's a two-parter. If you missed part one, go check out our feed, be sure to subscribe on whatever platform you use so you don't miss any episodes. And without further ado, let's get into part two of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City recap. But guess what you can't read to, a childhood, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:55 So let's rethink that, Father. Let's get more involved, okay? Yeah. All right, let's move on. So speaking of raising our children, we now go to Monica's house where her kids are all bouncing around and they're blowing up balloons. They're doing something and then the black
Starting point is 00:02:10 Range Rover of death shows up. It's basically, I mean, it's funny because like the Range Rover does kind of like Darth Vader's helmet in a certain sort of way. So for it to like arrive, it's like Linda being like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, ohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I watched a movie about a woman in Croatia, whose mother had died, and she never got to resolve her issues. Dark Volvo. I can't wait to eat this dessert guacamole. What are you gonna get over it?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Oh, I said, motherfucker. Verizon. Always there for you. Was it Verizon? This is CNN. Linda. No, we're just actually doing JN's, Earl Jones. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So anyway, Bobo shows up, not in a Volvo, I feel like she should have a Volvo if she's going to be named Bobo. Bobo in the Volvo? Yeah, Bobo in the Volvo. I mean, her name is, you know, Volvo, you can't have a Volvo without the L for Linda, and then it becomes, no, I mean, Volvo was, okay, you know what, I'm shutting up. The Range Rover shows up, and the kids are like panic.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I actually am like concerned about this. I'm concerned about how much the kids are involved in this mess, and they're like, should we lock the doors? Lock the doors? Because Monica's like, okay, breathe. I don't want, I don't want her to come in here, okay? Okay, I don't want her here with the kids for real
Starting point is 00:04:06 So like just like lock the door behind me when I go outside. I said geez. There's so much dysfunction happening in this family is Is the mom like coming with a baseball bat? What happens over I know it's like a horror movie don't lock the doors I think Walk the doors, my life, they might not be able to talk, but Vovvo will not get you children. Vero. She's coming in with Tendo to push, watch out.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah, so I'm not really sure what's going on. I am sure Vovvo is a crazy person and is showing up to be on Real Housewives in her Burberry pattern, pants and scarf. She's like, it's me, Vovvo and Burberry, don't you forget it, you little bit. So she drives the range rover up, and Monica's like, okay, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:04:53 let me fast forward to this. So Monica's like, yeah, I don't want her in here. Lock the door behind me. So she goes outside and she tells us, in there, it's been the Israel communication, but with me and my mom, like, none, since dinner, none. And Monica's like, yeah, when you take our vehicle, mother and mom's like, oh, so it's my fault, is it?
Starting point is 00:05:13 It's my fault. Yeah, so Linda's like, hi, I come bearing gifts. This is not a gift, mother. Well, it's a peace offering, okay? No, mom, girl, mom, girl, I can't do this anymore, okay? I can't live with like, when you get upset and you're just gonna like take my car from me, girl. And the mom's like, well, I'm just trying
Starting point is 00:05:38 to get your attention. I, this is so crazy. The mom is showing up here, by the way, also in pig tails. Which is just so like, I'm just a little girl. I'm so innocent. Look at me. I'm in my pajamas and my pig tails. You can't be mad at me. I'm just trying to get your attention. Just I'll stop. I won't do it anymore. I just wanted your attention. Because you ignore me. You're poor mother. So Monica's like, this is our pattern. Okay, like our relationship has like always been like,
Starting point is 00:06:07 very volatile and like very up and down and like high highs and low lows and like big rain drimmers. When does like, I clearly have some skills to learn. You know, when we had dinner with that beautiful plant, what a wonderful plant. I invited them out to dinner tonight. Are you okay to have dinner with me in the plants tonight? Mother! Okay, I'm sorry. I will get back on track.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I would seriously... Obviously, it's a cheap day. It really doesn't eat much. Only drinks water. Good listener. I would serious about therapy and I think it would be good for us. And I think we need to get back on track. Are you down for having therapy with me? And just remember, there's only one right answer and the wrong answer means you don't get the Range Rover. And Monica's like, well, hey, I know. I mean, I would like to think about it. But to be honest, mom, we've gone to therapy for so many years.
Starting point is 00:06:57 You know, and she's like, yeah, but that was so long ago. And the cycle of dysfunction in our family just goes back to generations. You know, you and I can be the ones to break it. but that was so long ago. And the cycle of dysfunction in our family just goes back to generations. You and I can be the ones to break it. Now let's just remember the good times we had together as a kid. Okay, you get on the trunk and I'm gonna find out
Starting point is 00:07:13 someone to make that with. Okay. You know, I want to break the cycle of going round and round and round much like the wheels of this Range Rover will do if you say no to this offer. So she's like, Mom, you just kidnapped my car from me. Like you want to talk about this function, Mom? I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I took the car. I'm so sorry. And it's like, um, we've been to therapy
Starting point is 00:07:35 several times. And when we go, she's not herself. And then unless you go to therapy and be really honest and show us your messed up self, it doesn't fix anything. And the mom's like, we can break the cycle, we can break the cycle, I'm serious. Now, part of me is like, okay, well, this is more than I think we hear from problems like this on love or on reality TV, where people are like, we need to work it out, let's go work it out. It's usually the kid begging the parents. Right. And part of me, you know, obviously doesn't trust
Starting point is 00:08:12 this because the mom has proven herself to be in that case and just said, um, but I was just doing it to get your attention, which also means the other stuff she's been saying online doesn't ring as true because the mom who's like LD, LD millionaire, I think is her name, has been tweeting like she doesn't make her car payments. That's why I don't, that's why I took her car. And Monica's obviously got a lot of issues too, which if anybody wants to hear about some of those that came out this week in the Goss, you can go listen to crappy hour live. That was our Instagram live. That's where we talk about Bravo Goss up and stuff. And there were a lot of Monica stories this week in the goss, you can go listen to crappy hour live. That was our Instagram live. That's where we talk about Bravo gossip and stuff. And there were a lot of Monica
Starting point is 00:08:47 stories this week. So we were talking about that. And Monica does seem like a little brat in a lot of ways. But I have to say, you got to be to Monica. And as her mom just comes across as fucking crazy, I mean, showing up in pig tails and burberry and being like, I just take your car because I need your attention. I can't believe anything else you say. So Linda's Burmese ability. And tell further notice, team Monica on this, you know, and I do like that she says, we've gone to therapy for years and the slidie just fakes it. You know, I've gone to therapy with someone in my family who's been a lot and they literally went one time and then said, guess
Starting point is 00:09:24 what? The therapist told me nothing's my fault, and I don't need therapy. And I was like, the therapist don't tell people that. So I know that that's not true, but there are some people who are just, that's how they are, you cannot get through to the person. That being said, I really wanna see these two in therapy. I will love to watch that episode.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I mean, I feel like they're gearing up for it. So, I mean, they need it. The truth is this though, like Linda, they do need it. And I do also think though that if Linda is being fake and presenting in therapy, that's not helpful. But I also, like part of me feels like maybe this is me being naive that if you still just do it long enough, you have the breakthroughs, but maybe I've just seen too much therapy in the movies.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Maybe I've seen too much like Goodwill hunting, where it's like, it's not your fault. It's not your fault. But either way, I feel like they should do the therapy, because I don't think there could be any downside from it. But yeah, well, when you talk to people... When you talk to people with certain personality disorders and stuff, and I've said this a million times on the show, it can make things a lot worse
Starting point is 00:10:31 because it really just gives people the language they need to manipulate. Oh wow. I think that if people really want to go into therapy and change for themselves and they're like, oh my god, I really need help. Like, I've gone to therapy many times throughout my life where I really need something. And it's helped me. But I think that people who're like, oh my god, I really need help. Like I've gone to therapy many times throughout my life for I really need something.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And it's helped me. But I think that people who are like, I'm gonna break up with you if you don't go to therapy and then that person goes to therapy to be like, well, she's mad or he's mad because of XYZ, the therapist's like, well, this is how you need to present the situation so that they don't get mad. And it kind of gives people a language of manipulation
Starting point is 00:11:04 in relationship. So certain kind of disorders where it actually hurts other people because it's giving these people tools to manipulate better. I mean I've seen it and we've seen it a zillion times on these shows. Well I know one person that it didn't help, Mac tonight. I mean, that guy needs got problems. Max and I is good on the therapy for years and has remained one of the most obnoxious McDonald's side characters of all time. So, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:33 He's like, I just don't understand. I can't, it's like, I just keep sabotaging these relationships and like, I just, I wanna settle down, but I just feel like I can't settle down. And quite literally, I don't know what to do. I keep pushing people away. I'm sorry to really the comment right might be me. Just turning them into Austin. So, this is so dark Vobo is like,
Starting point is 00:11:51 you and I can break the cycle room. Monika's like, well, I'll think about it, but in the meantime you better get to walk in because it's gonna be a cold walk home. She's like, you can't be serious. Yeah, I mean, it's beautiful out. Enjoy your walk to the death star. She's like, oh, can you drive me in your millennium Falcon, please? No, bitch. Get out of here. Monica goes back inside and Linda is like,
Starting point is 00:12:26 what? I'm just like, you gotta be kidding me. Take your scarf, which, you know, that's one of the reasons why you have a scarface that we can fling it around your neck when you're pissed, you know, so good for her for being prepared. But it's also such a sight, like passing someone just walking and muttering
Starting point is 00:12:41 to themselves in Burberry pajamas, you know? No, the question is how far away does she live? She must be what? Obviously she's like walking distance. She's probably like walking distance, but like an annoying walking distance, like 25 minutes. You know, like she doesn't want to walk 25 minutes. She wants to walk like five minutes, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah, now look, I get why Monica did this and I would be, you know, I was kind of cheering when she did it, but I would have also taken the car back. So there is something about being a certain age where I'm like, well, fuck you then. This car isn't my name, bye. Or I'm like, you can't just take someone's car. And then I'm like, take the car, take it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I mean, asking me to walk somewhere is like the greatest offense to me. Like, if you ever want me to not speak to you again, it's very hard. I'll forgive almost everything. But being like, you know what, Ronnie, you should take the stairs today. You're dead too.
Starting point is 00:13:29 You know what Ronnie, maybe you should walk there. Fucking die, okay? I also literally cannot even imagine slamming the door on my mother and telling you she had to walk home. I cannot imagine. And this has nothing to do with their relationship, but I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:13:42 actually it's a commentary on how fucked up their situation has begun, because literally that horrifies me. But I'm also a good little Jewish boy. So, I'm like, oh my God, I would never, never to my mother, never in the world. Okay, so let's go over to Heather. She's arriving, she's got a black podium,
Starting point is 00:14:04 she's coming to Ember. So isn't it weird to have a book reading out of place that has to do that alludes to fire? Like, yes. Like, she's like, can we have my book club meeting at Brimstone? Can we? Great.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And then afterwards we can just make a nice big pile. Someone can bring some gasoline. They're going to do it. It's a bar called Satan. Yeah, it's a bar called, yeah, Satan. So anyway, I'm going to have my book signing at the book burning place. So, um, so Heather, she gets there and, um, she's excited because it's the first small event she's had. It's a little humble brag there.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And, um, she's, oh, that's had. It's a little humble brag there and She's oh, that's funny. You were saying book burning and I was saying burning him. I understand both for books. They both work So that's why the point is that like fire To me five minutes to understand my listening is slow as people know Point is fire in books. They don't have a great history together. Okay, so, and fire and heathens also bad history. So bad history. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, Kethers there with her gay and their oversold event
Starting point is 00:15:16 and Lisa shows up. Hi. How are you guys? I'm excited. I'm here. I love the living room set up. You know, like, I have excited, I'm here. It is. Oh, I love the living room setup. You know, like, I have like a hundred cauchons. So like next time you need a cauch, just like ask me because I got cauchons for days and days.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Hi, Tony. Hi, cauchons. Hi, microphone. Hi, chairs. Hi, lighting. Hi, bar. Hi, I'm bar. Oh, my god. That's fantastic. Hi, I'm, I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm like not been my favorite and like I feel like I'm this like Weird space with Whitney. I'm like she just told you to stop cursing you're not in a weird space with Whitney And I like don't feel like talking to Ange about anything that happened this week And they're like I'm just like really like wanting to like have a good time with Heather and I just want to have a good Time with like the good time girl. Hi good time girl Hi I just want to have a good time with like the good time girl. High good time girl. Hi.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And Heather's like, I just want Lisa, the cool kid to love me. Sing on her mic. And Heather's like, wow, be like Lisa. You know, anybody want to be like Lisa? You can be a great Mormon without even trying. Or following any rules. You know what? It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Are they okay? I'm not gonna get triggered by Heather. I'm too mad at other people right now. Yeah, okay. Exactly. So then, Ange K shows up and Ange K is like, I haven't gotten one text or phone call from Lisa since the prison event.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And normally, Lisa and I talk about 80 to 100 times a day on my phone because I've got such good service from Opa wireless But now she's ignoring me. So now I know Lisa's annoyed and something is up. I'm great. I'm great. So there are people arriving and going to the bar. Monica goes to the bar and she goes, do you have anything without Vita? Ah! It's like a very sponsored bar. It's like a very teenage rebellion that she's doing, but also funny.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah, so she's like, I haven't seen Lisa, since our spiritual encounter at the sound-out, and I'm feeling, and I'm reading time, I turn around, there's like a jump scare. Because Mary, she's like, well, jump scare. I can do jump scare.
Starting point is 00:17:48 So Lisa is like, I'm nervous now. Like I'm like so nervous now. I'm like like really, really nervous about now. Like, do you got nervous? Do you get nervous? Like, because you don't see nervous. You want to jump to my die code. Cause like I'm like really nervous.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Like die code really helps me get nervous. Oh my god, it's like not die code. Cause like beat it to kill. Oh my god, no it's a die code. Oh my god, I'm like so nervous. I don't even notice in my head. Right now, like so nervous. Are you nervous? I'm like really nervous'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I you. And it's like, oh, mother doesn't want you. And Merida just gives an eye flower, she's like, ah, she said.
Starting point is 00:18:29 No, we're up for that. She's saying that about you, and that sounds like a lot of rumors and nastiness. I'm not gonna listen to Monica. She's like, yeah, I'm not gonna let her like, blame me around and like, say things and like, not my back. So Merida, it's like, while you just nailed the problem right on the head.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Your exact words were and let the record show to the jury I react rather than I respond. And if you can try to have a response rather than a reaction, I think you'll have more success. We don't want reactions. You can live. I know, I can't believe they didn't put that clip in there. I was like, really married it. That's great advice.
Starting point is 00:19:15 For somebody else. Where we recording that? So Monica's recording that? Oh, we recording that. We recording. Oh shit, did we not get that? Oh, crap, come on, this is gold. I just gave some great therapy advice
Starting point is 00:19:29 and didn't even record it for the pad. Well, then actually sounds really helpful and really healthy Meredith. So I'm not gonna do it. Ne-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e- So they also down for the event and Lisa comes out on the mic and she's like Surprise! Oh my god, Dad, you'll see that coming. I'm so nervous. Thank you everyone for coming.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Like Heather told me about this special day and I'm like I'm here to give you a little rendition of my hit single Away in a manger. Excuse me. Away in a manger in a manger. I still don't understand what song she's singing. I recognize the tune but it's not a way in a manger, I don't think, unless Mormonism has a different one, but that long as something else to the rest of the world. Away in a manger goes away in a manger no crib for his bed the little
Starting point is 00:20:34 Lord Jesus lays down his sweet head and stars in the sky look down where they lay and little to Lord Jesus. Just because I keep on. And Lisa's goes away in a manger. No, quit for his bed. The lit to Lord. There's something, what is that song? Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na and the manger. Well, you know what, in Judaism, it's not uncommon to go in one synagogue,
Starting point is 00:21:29 have a prayer or a song, be sung the one way, and you go to another synagogue, and they have a different melody. And it's really annoying when that happens because you like, this is not the melody. Like, why are you messing up the melody? This is not it. But the truth is that maybe there are different versions of a way to mean, like just like Judaism, you know, I guess. I guess I'm trying to say is it's a big tent and we all. Oh, really? You are not LGBT. You were not allowed to say that being. Oh, Blahdick. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crapence comment.
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Starting point is 00:23:05 I shall. Um, so, uh, Monika, the answer is I have no answer for you. But, um, it's okay. You know what it's a religious thing. I don't, I don't think it's like a real question. I think with religion, it's just like, will I ever get the answer? It's one of those things if you, if there is a heaven and I do go Well, but if I do I'm not gonna have a good question like what's the meaning of life? I'm gonna be like what's the real fucking tune for a way to major? Settle this now bitch settle this now. So either way Monica is sitting there scoffing
Starting point is 00:23:40 She is basically projecting all her mommy issues on to Lisa right now because she is acting like the kid who's been forced to sit at the table and finish their peas instead of going off and playing video games. So she's sitting there like, this is like so stupid. Is she like serious right now? Like, it's just happy. This is like for real? Oh my god. Like, what? Don't have to finish my potatoes. Gross. Yeah. Monica lays it on really thick. Yeah, you know, it's her first season. This is Monica just slathering it on every time she comes somewhere. I'm like, yeah, around.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Like she's a fucking brat. Like I want to take her car away right now. I want to drive her away. I do too. I'm like, this is Lisa's iconic strange song. Okay, that doesn't, the melody is not quite right. You listen. Yeah. So, um,
Starting point is 00:24:26 Alisa, she, Alisa sees them because she's all nervous and it's bright lights. I mean, it's not like you can't see the audience, right? And so Monica's being loud like growls and Angie's laughing with her. And so Alisa sees it and she's like, oh my god, who started you on, and Jay? Like you're sitting there snickering with Monica, but that's my other. And she's like, you know, but I'm kind of sick of this song. Heather, Heather, could you come out? And Heather comes out in her choir rub,
Starting point is 00:24:54 and she's like, you need a little energy. Let's give some white people beatboxing, everybody. Oh, she got this salt like city local vocals coming on in. Yeah, because they come on in and go and like, eh, him, man, eh, him, man. And then, then, then, she's like, then they start beat boxing. And then Lisa's like,
Starting point is 00:25:12 away in SSC in her crib and her bed, the best selling auto-layed, downer sweet ad, the stars in the heaven look down with a chile, seeking sweet dreams of the book sales, of this bad girl girl and a gay, and parents just don't understand. A very inner major now, Clifford is bad. Little baby Jesus is aware he was bad.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Angie passed 10 to 10, but then was tight with Monica and that's the end. Fuck Angie. Fuck Angie. Fuck Angie. Fuck Angie. With the main judge. As I walked into the valley fuck, Anne, Jay, with the man, Jay. As a walk to the valley of the shadow of death, I take a look around and say, where's the die-a-go-ok? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha I got 100 catches in the warehouse. It's your couch for your event.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Du-ba-du-ba-du. It's your major hammer's laugh lad. It's your major hammer's laugh lad. Got a big ball. Let me work it. Got a drink some feed on with the market. Got a major hammer's laugh lad. Got a major hammer's laugh lad.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I miss it. I miss a I miss a Allia Hi Jesus, I manger Pastor Jesus, Pastor Jesus, Pastor Jesus Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo So Monica's saying, then we're terrible! And that's the point, Monica. Okay, just shut up. Monica, just shut up.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Like your winnings. Monica does this thing where I feel like she wins a kind of every fight anyway, but then she loses with stupid baby things. You know, I'm like this? Like, what are you heckling? It's a book event, shut up. You can't heckle away in a manger and someone like Lisa Barlow Rat,
Starting point is 00:27:13 you've got to applaud the effort. And when you're getting fights with Pepe, you can't just be like, well you're old. Yeah, you know. And she also does this a little bit too much around kids, you know, because like Heather's kids are right there and she's just being like, Not around my children, don't curse around the kids. So, um,
Starting point is 00:27:30 Meredith is like, well, um, I give Lisa a lot of credit for getting up there and doing whatever that was. I think it was some sort of form of hip hop arts. I am not sure, but unfortunately, I don't know if she has a future in wrapping. Maybe her future in wrapping is as promising as Antonio's future in pressing record on time, Cass. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Oh, Monica think, what the fuck, Trilly? Wow, wow, what's the, mm-hmm. I'm not my money, Mack. You have to pay for something first, okay? Yeah, also Monica, like, let the fuck, Trilly? Wow, wow, what's the, I'm not my money, Mack. You have to pay for something first, okay? Yeah, also Monica, like let's not act like next season, your arc is gonna be that you're a singer, because we all know that this is your path. You're gonna be like,
Starting point is 00:28:14 I'm actually like, love singing and like, before my mom ruined my life, I actually was like, gonna be a singer, 70's song, it's called like, I live with me, I'm a kid. Like she's gonna do the whole thing, we know it's a Melissa Gorgapath. Dude, that's swat a wattle. So Heather's like, guys, thanks so much for being here. This is a big culmination of my book tour.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I just never imagined I would write a book, and I never imagined that it would be so well received, except for Mary Cosby, and all of you that probably saw him right in. So not received at all, which is what everyone in my family said when I said that I had sent it to them. So well anyway I've never wanted to be a bad Mormon, I wanted to be a good Mormon. So now I'm going to read you a book about the time I discovered panties. Everybody hold onto your horses. Here we go. I was an Amsterdam and I saw a very fragile looking white man and he put on a name tag and I said, you're a mission. You're a missionary aren't you?
Starting point is 00:29:12 He said, please don't hurt me and I said, don't worry. Tell me where your chips are. He said, no, we're not related to the nacho chips. I said, I'm just kidding. I used to be one of you, too. He said, please don't knock on me. I said, I would never nark on you. But just know, I can see you're trembling. And if you ever want to leave the church, I'm here for you. And I said, there's no one here. I would rather spend my day with, which was a life, of course.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Why would I have responded to spend a day with a 21 year old boy? Anyway, hope you enjoyed that passage. Mm-hmm. So Monica listens, and she's like, growing up with my mother, we always had missionaries in our home and we always signed up to feed the meals.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Those aren't great memories. They felt like older brothers. I'm just so grateful to missionaries, I totally really dehether. The show that comes out of left field so many times. I'm like, what do you, where is this? It's just such an odd show. And I really like it.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I mean, we're also gonna hear that. Well, I just love all of Monica's members too. Like, I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. And then my mother brought one of them into the car and put me in the trunk and the next year, no, my mother's my yellow, my brother, when my fake brother was a missionary, and I was like, mother.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I was like, waiting for that to happen. All right, no. And then my mom fucked all the missionaries and they never found God again. Sorry, missionaries. So then everyone's clapping, how they're taking selfie, like with her and the group and everything. and they never found God again. Sorry, missionaries. So then everyone's clapping, how they're taking selfie,
Starting point is 00:30:28 with her in the group and everything. And then Heather and Lisa have a moment. And Heather's like, well, first Heather's like to say how this is the best year for life. And she can't believe that people read this book, et cetera. And then this guy comes, people are like really into Heather. Like one lady is like, I'm not gonna cry.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I'm not gonna cry. And another guy comes up to her and says, just so you know, I wanna leave the church, but I stay for my parents. And I know I can say that here because there's no way my parents would ever watch this godless network. Surely no one is gonna find out
Starting point is 00:30:59 on this national television show. So Lisa is like, oh my God, you know what? I totally get it now, Heather. I totally get that. Like those things you said, like when you were crying with mesh in our eyes, and I'm like, my son's gonna be a part of that. You know what?
Starting point is 00:31:13 Jock just wants to help people make tortillas. And that's why it's gonna be a part of the factory for the next two years in Colombia. You know what? And that's the thing. It's like I just wanna be part of Jack's journey because like, you know, I understand what it is, but I also feel like left out because of the book
Starting point is 00:31:31 and I just want some tortillas. Yeah, I'm really glad I get it now, you know, because Jack just wanted, he doesn't wanna make weapons, but he does wanna concentrate on nuclear energy. And that's why you need fishin'. You know know that's why it's going on his fish and listen I am just so excited he'll be working with Tom Cruise because guess what nothing really is impossible despite what they say okay so he just goes so it's that like it's that what you're looking because the other base is like I just
Starting point is 00:32:00 want validation that like some people get to live by different rules and Lisa goes it's that what you're looking for all that time to get that. Hi there, you're validated. Okay. Speaking of which, can you validate my parking? Thank you so much. If you go like if like you grew up culturally here, culturally here, I think there's like a difference out of rules, but like we didn't raise our kids with them.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So it's like different rules for us. Heather. Yeah, you know, that's an interesting thing about religion because that is the, the argument. I'm like, well, I don't agree with this, this, this, and her. It's okay. You don't have to. Christianity is whatever you want it to be. I'm like, no, it's not, but it's not though. I mean, I understand that conflict because I've always had that conflict where I'm like, but it's not. Like, I've been forced to read this Bible many times. Like I've had to study this fucking thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And you can't just tell me that this is suddenly okay. But it is okay. But it's not. Like I understand how it's so frustrating and then someone's like, but I'm the best Christian. You're like, you just got divorced after cheating on your wife. Like, for many years, like, but I'm a very good Christian. I'm like, you're saying this at the craps table.
Starting point is 00:33:04 What the hell's going on here? It's always been a conflict. For many years like, but I'm a very good Christian. Mike, you're saying this at the craps table. What the hell is going on here? It's always been a conflict, so. I don't know that I'm triggered by it, but I'm definitely like, who side am I on? You're gonna know if I'm triggered. I'm turning right and freaking out. You're like, you're spinning all over the place.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I don't know if I'm triggered honestly. I think that, like, it just wanna see think about things. Yeah. That's true though, this show just gets me, like I totally see where Heather's coming on this. Like, I just did this whole thing where I said, fuck you to the church, and now I'm not allowed anywhere, but you don't even follow anything,
Starting point is 00:33:37 and you're still like held up by the church. You had a whole party of white children who looked like thumbs with terrible push forward hair. Like no one's saying anything bad about you. You know, how is that allowed? And I think it's allowed, cause Lisa's like, but I just still call myself Mormon, you don't.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I just still say, I'm Mormon and I have it to you, the company. It's really fun. Listen, Mormonism is like the best social club ever. And you know, like, maybe I should have figured that out because the cookies were really good at church. I don't think that I've ever gone anywhere else where you can just get little coffees
Starting point is 00:34:08 and put 97 of those timing creamers in them and put sugars in your pockets and hide under tables with your friends while you get high on sugaring coffee. I don't think I've ever found somewhere like that but church. But I haven't been able to go back there because I won't follow their fucking rules and I never even had to follow their fucking rules
Starting point is 00:34:24 this whole time. Well, when I went to synagogue Like I'd go Saturday mornings and afterwards. Oh god that bagel spread Hmm those bagels I tell you I was like there's always a bowl of M&A There's a bowl of M&A and they were just so many I would see I would have like two bagels sometimes three bagels I was just like those bigel monster. I am to this day, but like then I, like I didn't have any shame about having three bagels in one sitting. Now I do, although God, I want three bagels
Starting point is 00:34:53 in one sitting all the time. God, I love bagels. I love a fresh bagel. So Lee's. My best friend growing up with Jewish, I went to temple all the time and he did not get bagels there. So I mean, I would have been, I would have converted in two seconds. I would have Lee a mix when he'd that shit up and find out there did not get bagels there. So, I mean, I would have been, I would have converted in two seconds.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I would have lea mixed, we need that shit up. If I had known there was gonna be bagels. Yeah, oh God, bagels. And what makes me sad is that was before I really liked Smokesammon. Like I didn't know about locks then. But if I had known, there was locks for days. And I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:35:19 This cream cheese, which is, I just need the cream cheese. I don't know how much I would do for Christ honestly, but for a bagel I would literally I would I would walk out I would worship at the church of the bagel I mean there was a whole movie about it that won an Oscar let's be honest, but Anyway Lisa's like Heather and I have like a lot of issues and like one thing that like really bothers me the most is the Way she likes talks about Jack's mission, but like what this mission means to Jack is that he wants to serve others the way I like to provide couches for people. And he gets like promote kindness and love and it's like totally different from Heather's
Starting point is 00:35:51 experience. But I definitely have a different understanding of Heather now. And like I feel like for the first time she's realizing that there's like not just like one way to live religion and specifically ours. And like I just feel like I'm seeing Heather for the first time, like, I'm seeing more of Heather and it's like, I suddenly see more. I suddenly I see more. I'm sorry, I just did that all just to get that in there. I was like, we're talking musicals today. I'm sorry, doctor.
Starting point is 00:36:20 The original Audrey 3 played by Whitney. Feed me. I have some prison love though. I would eat Seymour right now, but I've got some prison of prison leftovers I want to live somewhere that's green She does have the picket she's a little bit of Audrey's dream house. She is a ding dong. She could totally get away with that. The modern Whitney, the modern Audrey Whitney. So let's see here. So yeah, they've come to this kind of agreement where at least is like, oh my god, I just told you you could totally be a hypocrite and be a part of something that you don't follow the rules of. Now we can be friends. And and others like, well, you know, I just need to be open more to your experience and
Starting point is 00:37:06 just not get so mad that it's unfair that you get to drink tequila. Yeah, pretty much. So do you think that this is all going to end with Heather going back to Mormonism? No, I think this is. Or do you think she's going to find like a liberal version of Mormonism? Like, you know how in LA there's those like Christian churches now that celebrities go to where it's like fun church. Yeah like cool church. Yeah. They're like with Justin Bieber Church. Yeah. Or like my parents like they go to cool church now with that. We have a band church. You'll love it now. I'm like the songs you still have to rhyme
Starting point is 00:37:38 everything with Jesus. And why is every song about wanting to bang Jesus? This is I'm officially uncomfortable. I'm more uncomfortable in cool church than I was at the other church. I am uncomfortable in any religious space that has guitars. Ah! Any religion, I think it's strange to have guitars in a house of worship.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I don't know why, I will accept an organ in church. Obviously that's been well established. Like growing up, this is like, like, talk of our religious past. Growing up in my synagogue, we had no instruments. It was all just like, it was just singing. No, nothing. So the first time I went to a synagogue
Starting point is 00:38:17 where there was like a guitar or a banjo or like a piano or anything, I was like, whoa, it's crazy to me. Like, as a god would not like this. God does not approve of this. We had a very Spartan musical existence, but we had bagels. We had great bagels.
Starting point is 00:38:32 So, well, the first time I saw the church band, they were singing something like, I want you inside me. I was like, what the fuck? Are you, we have kids here? You cannot sing like that. You cannot sing songs like this at church. And it was of course what the fuck are you? We have kids here. You cannot sing like that. You cannot sing songs like this at church. And it was of course the spirit they were talking about.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And I was like, no, I need that. I need to get that. They were like, I need that cheap, cheap seat. When you have a seat that like, or climbs and is leather and rocks back and forth and has a like big gulp soda holder in it, I'm like, I don't think this is not feel wrong. I need to go somewhere that makes me
Starting point is 00:39:07 full worse about myself or I'm not doing it. Alexis Balino, was she the one who went to where was it like Gretchen? There was one episode of Orange County that where they went to one of those Orange County churches where it was like a full band and it was like going to a strange rock show, but it was like church.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And, I don't know, I don't remember. That's just triggered now by this whole episode. So sorry for everybody being dragged into our childhood religion. I'm not triggered. I'm not triggered. I'm just amused. But I'm like, I'm like, today is the day.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I'm gonna share all the stories of going to synagogue as a child. Yeah, it's just trade religious stories. It's fun talking. Like when do you ever talk about, I don't talk about. Well, that means you have a million stories on my end. I feel like your stories are interesting because yours, like, come with a real drama. And they're like, and they made me do this.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And I'm like, I had a bagel. I'm like, I had a bagel. One time I went to a barmer's friend, there was a guitar and I hated it. I made a guitar, as I was saying. I just have yell per views. Didn't like that, synagogue. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I went to a beer. So a beer. So a synagogue once for a barbed-knit spa. How about that? Okay. The church segments wrapped up. Okay. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:40:20 You're re-traumatizing me with your religious background now. We are officially moving past God. No offense God. you'll always be here in your way, but bye. So Meredith, okay, so now we go back to Monica, Meredith, and Angie. So they're all talking in a corner. And Monica's like, oh my God, Angie and Meredith, have you guys like talked at all? I'm sorry. And they're like, no, and Meredith is during that like tight smile Talk around and I'm just gonna smile like this with my head tilted and slightly Shaking well, I'm not going to make a big deal about this But I know that you were making threats and I don't want you to run away like you do like on me today Mirror mirror and I just I'm just going to tell you that I am hurt as a mother, as a wife and as the owner of a ridiculous poodle. And
Starting point is 00:41:12 what that you were saying that, that you were threatening my family, unacceptable. Who's great, who's great. And Meredith is like, I was not threatening your family. You said it. You said I could ruin your family. She's like, but I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. I'm not doing to ruin your family. with enough Greek words to ruin my Greek family Greek. I am Greek.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Okay. And she's like, I'll can't. Great, great thanks. Thanks for the update, Angie, on one I can and can not break with Greek words. Thank you. Come on, shoes. Here comes one right now. Why are we going to be passive aggressive on just telling you how you made me feel about it, Greek. And Meredith's like, well, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings and made you well so mumbling. And I upset you. What else would you like from me, Angie?
Starting point is 00:42:20 Why else would you like from me at this juncture? So Monica's like, um, that's more than I'm getting from Lisa Barlow. Let's turn it into me guys. So I'm ready to say, okay, so let's move on. And she's like, I've moved on Meredith and Meredith. Well, thank you. And I will move on to physically with my feet as I walk away from you. Slot.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And by the way, Meredith Outfit is a leather jacket, a black leather jacket with like white, oily sleeves over, not a little bit the fuck, the fashion on this show kills me ever. And Angie's in a gold body suit. Yes, what is this? Angie, it's like, I mean, she always... We're not fashion gays, but we have to give some credit where credit is due these ladies dressed insanely
Starting point is 00:43:09 I mean every episode Angie is always going for some look that's for at some event and some of our other part of the world You know like I feel like she is Show trying to be at some club at a fashion show a fashion week that's happening and but she's just at like Ember to celebrate Heather's book about Mormonism. Well, she's dressed like a cat burglar, but she's gold. Like, what are you trying to rob a tanning salon? Like, were you just fit in with all of the orange? Like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:43:35 She's auditioning for Cirque de Sogrique. Creek de Sollate. Oh, so, um, Meredith's like, I'm moving on. So my mom and gone, good to see you, mom and gone. Um, plain, you know, I'd love to have you curse through Lisa's song. Wait a minute, Lisa's backing out with my rain trover. You shouldn't have made a month, make fun of my song, bitch.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And she goes, thank you for not running away, Meredith. Meredith says, well, I don't. I don't as she then walks away. So then, Angie's like that apology from Meredith, it feels shady, it feels fake, it feels like Meredith. So then Heather's talking to her daughters, which is really cute, they're like really so proud of her so happy and now Heather's saying
Starting point is 00:44:23 how she wants to write more books. She wants, she wants write a second book, but she doesn't want them to deal with bullying, doesn't want them to have a target on their back, et cetera. And they're like, well, look, if you're just, if you're writing, if you're, if you're just sharing your truth, we support it. If you're doing it just to get back
Starting point is 00:44:36 to people, we don't like that. So she's like, great. I mean, do you see you? I'm sorry, but this is revenge, getting fucking lined. And I like when Heather's like, I mean, you guys ready? There's gonna be bullying. Are you ready for another burrito to the car? That's like, really?
Starting point is 00:44:52 That's not only bullying your poor daughter, that's bullying burritos. What are the fucking burrito, dude, to get wasted? But you don't know how many hungry Ronnie's there are in the world who would die for a fucking burrito right now. I swear to God, I could, I do kind Bahawar fresh. I'm so mad that we as a civilization have not gone to Bahawar fresh more because our closing left and right and it is so far superior to the citropot lay. And now that chapot lay is the big the big fast casual burrito in town is not fair. It should be Bahawar fresh. It's the better version. Yeah. I love that place. So Heather is telling us having her kids blessing blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Okay. So Lisa's house. Lisa is spooning gooey stuff in a bowl. What was that? She's serving a tray. Lisa gives the most, I don't give a fuck. And I also don't really eat in real life. Trey ever.
Starting point is 00:45:39 She just bought grocery store muffins. You know those blueberry version. They were so cool. They were so cool. They were so cool. They were so cool. They were so cool. They were so cool. grocery store muffins. You know those blueberry muffins where there's coaculated sugar on top. Like this is really bad like days in these are mental breakfast. These are supermarket muffins and croissants
Starting point is 00:45:55 that are just like shitty. This is not, she did not go to like a nice bakery. This is all shitty. And so she's there and she's like, I hate the way I feel right now. I'm friends with Angie, but I'm feeling frustrated and hurt and lying-sided because I don't understand why my friend is behaving like this.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I don't understand why. I don't feel like, I don't understand why my friend. It's my friend. Yeah. It really hurts. Who's my friend? My friend is not my friend. Then who's my friend?
Starting point is 00:46:24 Ding! And Angie approaches in a rainbow versace logo. Like, and- And- And- And get those, rainbow sunglasses, because like sunglasses are her thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:34 So then she comes in and they, you know, do turse hugs and hello and Angie's like, oh my God, I love your painting. Is that a Greek treat? She's like, no, I don't know what it is. But I had that one forever, but I have another couple of paintings coming. Hey, you know what? I grabbed some croissants, you know what?
Starting point is 00:46:50 I got some always hungram, just like always eating. It's a food is so delicious. So I hold up my, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, so good. Where are you doing? It's really delicious. It's a coaster. It's a coaster, Lisa.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Lisa does that thing you do when you're kids. Like, I'm so hungry, let me turn to my side and oh, I'm gonna eat this entire bottle of water. on demand exclusive guys. That's what you got to watch. You get to watch me pretend to eat a bottle. Probably look like I was delighting it. So that's how Ben found out on it. That was the first video Ben put on the grinder. So in other news. So then Angie is like, I'll have a croissant with you. Um, where is the Baklava?
Starting point is 00:47:46 So Lisa is like, she's like, how's everything going? She's like, oh, just as usual, like we haven't talked for a couple of days though, so I was sort of wondering what's going on. I felt like I just need a minute. Oh, sorry. Yeah. It was Lisa saying that. No, no, we're editing it. Should we say it together as dual and dream? Go. Yeah, I felt like I just needed a minute to gather my thoughts, which is funny because I was one complaining that you hadn't texted me, but it was me that was gathering my thoughts.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And I felt overwhelmed after Whitney's prism event. Oh yeah, the prism event, Bobby's birthday party. And she's like, yeah, the birthday party, you left upset, Greek. And Lisa's like, yeah, the birthday party you left upset Greek. And Lisa's like, yeah, I needed a break tell. I didn't realize Monica's such a shy, so I have to mad. I know you're upset. And I feel like you think that I'm taking her side. No, I didn't. I feel like you were taking your side at all. But you tell me that I like Monica. You don't want a relationship with Monica and then you're taking Monica's side.
Starting point is 00:48:47 So what's up with you taking Monica's side and that's what I care that you were taking your side but like I was on one side and Monica was on another and then you're on Monica's side. The optics don't match the conversation I learned to write word. If you ever heard me say, I'll pretend I didn't say that
Starting point is 00:49:00 because now I'm saying optics. But optics isn't really right either, is it? So it's better. It's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it guess optics mean the way it looks, right? Like this is the way it looks and it doesn't match the conversation. I guess, okay, whatever, who cares? So Andrew's like, well, you're right, all of this is true.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'm not denying that I've had those feelings, but look, woman to Greek woman. She asked for a sit down and not, she asked for a sit down about what went down at not regular Easter by Greek Easter. And then we see a clip of Monica being like, and I am calling you to link seriously from real in front of this Instagram wall. Nothing can be as serious as it is in front of an Instagram wall full of fake roses.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I'm like, really sorry. See, I didn't know any of us. And like, I had no idea. And I just like yes There was some resolve and I'm going to take full responsibility and full accountability Not really sure for what but I'll just say those things and I probably have been wishy washy at times and maybe part of why I Haven't been clear is because I'm afraid to be clear and I'm not saying I want to be best friends Well, I'm afraid to be clear and I'm not saying I want to be best friends. Well, I'm afraid to be clear.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I was saying that's the way you'd feel bad for me a little bit, but you're turning into you a little bit. You're afraid to be clear? Yeah, very afraid to be clear. I don't know if it's like subconscious or when you found out I painted bird houses at hethers. Dot dot dot. Which by the way, I love that that's like,
Starting point is 00:50:45 well remember when you found out that I was painting bird houses at Hethers? Like that's what it's called. She's like, you were really pissed off at me when you found out I was painting bird houses. And then we sweetly took a clip of Lisa going, I'm literally getting triggered by that. So this is literally bullshit.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Like you got an apology. I've literally never gotten that from Heather. And when Angie says, well, when you found out I was, I was, I painted Berthas with Heather, then Lisa, the cast of Lisa, she flicks her hair and it goes, boom! Berthas is what do I even care? I've been, Berthas has built it. I'm the Queen of Berthas and Sundance. Do you know how not many bird houses and Sundances are sponsored by Lesa, Viennese, and Viennese. What are I gonna about bird houses? I have like a hundred tiny couches
Starting point is 00:51:30 that fit exclusively in bird houses. So she's like, yeah, I was afraid to tell you, I went to her house until after I went to her house. Oh really, you're insecurity and telling me stuff is not my problem. Okay? You being terrified is not my problem. Lisa basically turns Angie's like, like, I'm just scared. I didn't know because you were flipping. She's like, I don't give a fuck. If you don't have the balls to talk to me, then that's your fucking problem, bitch. Which I actually
Starting point is 00:52:00 really like. I was like, Lisa, like, fine. So you're afraid of me yelling at you too Fucking bad then don't do things I would yell at you for it And if you do be honest about it, I'm still gonna yell at you anyway Like what the hell do you think is gonna happen? You're just not gonna get this part of my personality DUR Yeah, and and just like well, I just didn't want you to think that I was going to take away a friend from you And this is why would I think that like I don't think that way. Like if you're projecting onto me, like I think that's what you're doing. Like I got like upset because she apologized to you
Starting point is 00:52:31 for how you took a beating, but I took a beating. And like I was a beating like over and over and over again. What I'm saying is every time I see a bird in a bird house, I'm like you better be so fucking thankful you got a house because guess what? I have no house considering my house was built on the beatings of friends, you fucking bird, that's what I'm trying to say right now. Hmm. Okay, listen, you know what, you're projecting on me and I'm sure you can see it,
Starting point is 00:52:56 because I'm so huge, because I eat so much. Look at me right now. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, That's a remote control, Lisa. How? Might be hard to digest. But anyway, you know what? Do you know how it feels to be manned as a situation? Fucking Lisa. I love that no matter how many times you tell Lisa, Lisa, you hurt my feelings. Lisa, this was unfair.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Lisa, you're being mean to... She doesn't even care. She's like, this is why. Because my feelings are her. Yeah, you know. And Andrew tells us, I'm wanting to move on with Heather and Monica, but it hurts Lisa because she's hurt by those French hits and it seems it's like how she got hurt by Greek
Starting point is 00:53:32 Angie, how she got hurt by Jen Greek, but I'm not those Greek people. I'm this Greek person. Yeah, but you are that person. You know what I mean? You were brought on the show by Jen. You turned on her pretty quickly. Of course she started it. So I will give her that. For a glass of champagne on Angie's head for no reason.
Starting point is 00:53:49 But I wouldn't call Angie like the most loyal person on this show. Angie does go where the wind blows. Definitely. It's raining. Sorry. If you saw me have that look, it's because it's raining. It's LA when it rains. I thought Dom came in. No. It's raining. So Lisa's like, the answer is yes, I totally agree. So Alisa is like, how do you think it makes me feel? That's all I needed to hear, thank you.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I can go now. How do you think it makes me feel in these situations? When you look at my window, look at all those birds that don't have houses, that's so bad. Okay, it's driving my property values down. Like my friends are like, they're just like hiding things, like untransparent with you. Okay, I'm like an open book. Okay, I'm an open book that actually wraps at book events. That's how open my book is. Okay, and I say
Starting point is 00:54:34 exactly how I feel with exactly what I mean. Yeah, but like also I support anything. So like I would never blow up with you if you went to someone's house. She goes, oh really? You're not honest though. You're not honest. It's not that you went to our house. You weren't honest about going to our house. That's what it is. It's like a lie. It's not a bird house. It's a lie about a bird house. Lier, bird house liar. Your bird has liar. But Angie, Angie. By the way, it's really hard to go between Lisa and Angie for a prolonged amount of time because it's like, they're basically just turning into the same voice.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Oh, no, no, no, no. So Lisa's like, she's like, Angie, I mean, I'm just because, I'm like, I can't even tell where we are. That's because I don't feel like you're being honest with me. And that's why I'm acting that way. And Angie's like, but I'm just, I want, I just want to keep moving forward and keep her Monica at a distance and still be cordial and kind.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And when I see her and that is all. Okay, well I don't want you to feel like you have to have secrets from me. Okay, so like, look, tell me that you totally love Monica. I love Monica. Fuck you, stupid. I hate you. I'm not, you're never coming over here again Fuck you, stupid. I hate you. Goddamn idiot. I'm never, you're never coming over here again.
Starting point is 00:55:47 See, but that's so hard. This is like the, that's what you just have to deal with. Are you okay with that? Okay, good, because I'm still healing from things. I'm still so triggered. How you got into apology, but I never gotten apology. So like I'm the hurt one. Yeah, and it's just like,
Starting point is 00:56:00 how you feel about not telling me things? That's not my problem. And so now Angie's like being down. She's like, you're right, it is me. It's me. Hi, I am the anti-hero. It's me. And she's like, OK, well, there's no dad in my mind
Starting point is 00:56:18 that you're not my friend. OK? Like you're always my friend, except when I'm adding that you're my friend, which is all the time. Because my friend Which is all the time because you're not honest with me But if you were honest with me even if you were doing things that weren't being my friend I would be honest and say you're not my friend. Does that make any sense to you? You know what you should take a croissant. Here you go This is a cloth map Kim. I really want me to I just I don't want you to ever feel like you can't tell me something
Starting point is 00:56:44 Or you don't feel comfortable eating our croissants in front of me, okay? Because that really makes my heart break! And I just like, I don't want to feel that way either. And I think I have, and that's on me, this is all my fault. This is my fault, 100%. And maybe I've been on egg shells because I've been walking on egg shells and I'm concerned about your feelings that's what I meant to say and that's backfire.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Why would you bring up egg shells right now when I was invited to do bird houses with your parts make eggs and eggs have shells I'm triggered right now you're such a terrible friend. That's my fault. That's my fault. I should never have mentioned eggs or a gone to bird. I shouldn't have even looked at the birds on the way over here. Now, when I sing that Carpenter song, I'll say, why do suddenly appear, and you'll just have to guess what it is, but it might not be, you know what's.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Ha ha ha ha. And that brings us to the end. I mean, it's basically Lisa beating her down until she's like, okay, I'm so sorry. Lisa's like, okay, we're always friends. I would never be mad at you, babe. Like, I don't even know where you got that from. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:53 The next week, it looks like they go to some sort of colonial thing where they're going to be turning butter and wearing bonnets and screaming at each other. And then literally Angie throws down a plate and goes, oh, so, you know, this show's just really on track. Just to see what it's gonna do. It really is.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Guys, thank you so much for being with us for another two-parter. You know, one of you said something like, guys, why are you trying to make everything in two-part? We're literally not. We are just having so much fun talking to each other. And we're not, we're not fogger limiting ourselves. Like, do you think I like we
Starting point is 00:58:26 should do so many shows do you think I want to spend an extra hour intentionally talking about Bravo. I'm sorry people. I don't want I want my dream would be to do these recaps in 30 minutes, but I can't control myself. I cannot control myself. So this is matter one of us can you know and it's we do this longer and longer and I'm in Texas now only really seeing family Which are great and everything. I did that on purpose, you know, I wanted to see my family But now that that's all I'm doing this is all I do Okay, like this is the only person. This is not the only friend
Starting point is 00:58:59 I really even talked to these days on a regular basis. So that's it That's what you're gonna get you're getting a lot of religious trauma stories about having to go to church for bagels and the cruiserock bands. It's just it. Wow. So you're saying that I'm like your only friend. Like, why would you like try to hide that from me, Ronnie?
Starting point is 00:59:18 Why would you say that? Like, just say it. Be up front with what you mean about our friendship. Oh my God. Well, everybody, that brings us to the end of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Thanks so much for being here with us. We will be back the rest of the week, Beverly Hills, Southern Charm, Real Housewives of Miami. Next week, we're going to do an episode of Mary Dometeson to catch up with us.
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