Watch What Crappens - #2240 RHOSLC Part 2: The Mourning After

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Welcome back to part 2 of our recap. After Whitney experiences a devastating loss, she winds up in a fight with Lisa at Meredith’s jewelry event on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (S04E12...).Watch with Crappens on Demand here:  http://bit.ly/crappensvideoSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 I'm Ben Mandelker, joining me is Ronnie Karim, as usual, and we are in the middle of our Salt Lake City recap. If you missed part 1, go back and listen to it on our podcast feed. It also includes an update on below deck from this week. So go check that out, and without further ado, let's get into part two. So speaking of speaking of food,
Starting point is 00:01:57 we go to Mary's house where she's slicing some carrot cake and Monica shows up, she's like, no, it's not in here girl. I've never been to this neighborhood of a girl. So then Mary's just talking about, like, I started doing the Mary math, did you? Love, when she said she'd been there 21 years, but her son's like, yeah, well, thanks.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I've been here for, you know, 20 years because my son was two days old and moved in and I was pregnant here, we years because my son was two days old, moved in and I was pregnant. Here we got it and he's 20. So I've been here 20 years. I was like, why are you? Why are you so insistent on getting a timeline down on the camera? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:02:36 I know. Well, I was confused at first because she said, we've been here for 21 years and we moved in here. I don't know. I started to do the math and then I was like, you know what, Ben, they're better things for you to be doing with your time right now. Because I literally wrote it all down to, and then I just actually erased it. Because as like Ben, you're going to get stuck into some into this and you don't get some into some kind of conspiracy theory. Yeah. Well, it's fishy to me. There. I said it. So I was more focused. I was like, what I was focused on, Ronnie. I, well, it's fishy to me. There, I said it. So, I was more focused on...
Starting point is 00:03:06 I was more focused on what I was focused on, Ronnie. I mean, I was focused on the math. I'm not acting like I was, I just felt like I was going to be annoying about it. But what I did notice also when they showed her living room, I never noticed this before, that Mary on her coffee table has a giant replica of a bridge that lights up.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Did you see that? It's like a Brooklyn Bridge, but it's not a Brooklyn Bridge. It's almost like a random bridge, it's like the Throggs neck bridge, but it's like huge, it takes up the entire table. Who puts a bridge on their table? I don't know, but there you go. Someone who wants to work things out, build a bridge.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Build a bridge, guys. Wait, but by the way, did you have a conspiracy theory about this timeline? the way that I just stomped out of her? I don't have a conspiracy theory. It's just, I was just thinking why are you trying to get a timeline? I don't know, it's fishy, I don't know. So, but now we've officially talked about it too long. Thanks, Ben.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Thanks. So they eat cake and Mary's like, is your cake good? Are you eating the cake? Yeah, I'm eating it. It's good. What do you think of it? It's good. Why, is your cake good? Are you eating the cake? Yeah, I'm eating it. It's a good. What do you think of it? It's good. Why, do you make it?
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's like, no. So, yeah, I've been good. I've just been trying to pace my time and make sure my sanity is protected and make sure I don't lose my mind on the new one. Like I did, like I did, and then we get a clip of, you called me a pornography sweetheart pornography grew up little girl
Starting point is 00:04:29 I was surprised we didn't get a wake-up bubble head. That's one of my favorites So Monica's like I can't end that's like where I'm at girl I'm a her's like listen your mind don't effort lose your mind. Don't don't lose your mind over anyone ever Just yeah, but I just feel like feel like Lisa. feel like Lisa, we're just like, oh, let's go. And Mary is like, yeah, well, with Lisa, I feel like you can go back and forth. It's not just her, it's both of you. Both of you are the problem.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah, but she can get really nasty in that one. Mary's like, mm-hmm, yeah, that's true. That's true. So Monica says, I'm trying to figure out what her problem is with me. Oh, really? You don't know where her problem is with you Monica. Come on.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Really? Yeah. Maybe it's the first group trip you went on when she lost her thing and you started calling her materialistic in front of everybody. No. Were you wrong? No. You were absolutely correct.
Starting point is 00:05:20 But that's her problem with you. Why are you acting like you don't know what it is? And I was calling her ugly and old and all of that other stuff. Why are you pretending like you don't know what it is? And I'm calling your ugly and old and all of that other stuff. Why are you pretending like you don't know what it is? And Mary is like, you know, what she does, like, what does she do that makes you feel like that? That makes you feel like she's materialistic. And Monica's like, oh, she's like, oh my God, Mary, how many carrots? This is the new Chanel. Oh my God, I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I'm like, yes, Lisa does that. But I hate to break it to you, Monica. You're on the Real Housewives. This is a show that is literally built on materialism.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Like the backbone of this show is women shopping. And then a kairan appears on screen showing how much it was that they per- like, that was $6,000, $1,500. Your mother just repossessed a Range Rover you can't afford. You're fighting talking about. Okay, you've got a holiday. I went to the Perstor and I bought a bag. Oh, no! I can't hear. Yeah, so Mary is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:17 you just have to take her for who she is, you know, because Gretches eat people. Gretches are like cake. Are you eating the cake? Are you eating? Is it good? Yeah, some so leaving the cake. It's good. Are you sure you didn't make this? Nope. Nope. Don't know why I'm asking. I've lived your 20 years. So Samana Cupass is like, yeah, she's, she has, she has really
Starting point is 00:06:39 good advice. She just can't really follow it very well. So she's going to apologize and Mar says, and really mean it. You can't just say things, not with them. You know, for instance, when I called Whitney a bobblehead, I meant that for the depths of my soul, because she is one. Well, yeah, but that's why I said she's wrinkly. I never heard of her. I'm very surprised.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Oh, no, don't say that. Don't say that part. It was weird. Mary was like momentarily a voice of reason. So then we speak of Whitney. We now like momentarily a voice of reason. So then we speak of Whitney. We now go to Whitney and she's driving and now at this point we've learned that Sherry has passed and so it needs to really destroy it. It happened like last night. Angie calls to check in on her and Whitney is debating whether
Starting point is 00:07:19 or not to go to Meredith's jewelry show, but she decides that she is going to go because that's what Sherry would have liked. And then we go to my favorite part. Lisa, John, and Jack at Modern Missionary menswear. I thought this was so funny. I had no idea that they had missionary fashion stores. I know, that was great. I love that.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And I love that this one was a quote unquote modern, but anytime Lisa's liked it, something that was modern in this store, they're like, oh no. Sorry, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's more conservative. That's more for prom. Then what's it doing in the fucking missionary store?
Starting point is 00:07:54 It's literally called modern missionary menswear. You can't have prom teal in here. So the salesman's like, you know what, while you're proselytizing, you need to wear slacks. And we do have some slacks that are like, Lou Lou Lemon, it's kind of like stretchy. And he goes, I love that! Oh my God, I love that!
Starting point is 00:08:13 Lou is not been slacks. And she's like, can he wear any of these colors? Like, what about tell? I think it's no, that's for prom. They like more conservative. Okay, so basically, can Yalo? No, more conservative. Black.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Only black. Yeah, only black. So then, it's just $500 in the store, but is that the difference? So let me guess, slacks with a white short sleeve button down shirt and a tie, right? Let me just guess. But my $100. Also you're allowed to have a moment as long as you don't put gel in it.
Starting point is 00:08:47 New rules. Those are new Bible rules. Is the modernity that there's stretch fabric, so it's slightly more comfortable. But you're not doing yoga while you're doing, I mean, you're not doing missionary position when you're a missionary. Let's be honest, you're just a missionary.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I don't, I'm just, I'm just, I ain't doing fucking yoga. But I'm like, does that, like if you're wearing like yoga like slacks, at that point is there a significant difference between slacks and yoga like slacks. Slacks are not like uncomfortable. They're just there slacks. I've gotta go grease on my head, literal grease on my head
Starting point is 00:09:18 because I put oil on my head. Why don't you do a little slacks? Just, you need comfortable things to do missionary work because it's a lot of walking around and dinging and donging. Why don't you all know? No, I feel like if I was gonna come up with a missionary centric business, like a prep business for missionaries, I would definitely do facial work. Like, I don't know, Botox for missionaries or poor cleansing for diamond facials for missionaries
Starting point is 00:09:59 because everything's a ring cam now. So now, you're not even talking to the person, you're talking to their fucking ring cam when you go ding dong, cause now it's not ring cam now. So now, you're not even talking to the person, you're talking to their fucking ring cam when you go ding dong. Because now it's not ding dong is, da da da da. And then the people are like, I can't wait for you.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And you have to be like, hi, I'm here to tell you about John Smith and the Lord and how the Lord talked to John Smith or whatever the hell it is. And then you don't want the person to be like, get out of here ugly. You know, you have to have a cute face. And you don't want them to be like,
Starting point is 00:10:23 oh my God, your face moves too much. Get out. If there really was a god, why would your face move so much? I would bring a trick or treat bag. I would show up with a bag of people like, oh, this poor child, they think it's Halloween. I hate to break it to them.
Starting point is 00:10:39 So you open the door and like, I'm sorry, oh, sweetheart, it's actually April. Oh, thank you for reminding me that because by the way, do you know about John Smith? Can I talk to you about Mormonism? It's like, ah fuck. I thought you might be bringing candy. It's called candy. Like a trick or treat, like you'd bring candy to the house, which is actually smart.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And that is actually how Jesus got so many followers. I mean, not with Snickers, but like with Brett, with carbs and wine. Come with M&Ms and be like, it's about Mormonism and missions, you know. Yeah, that's how to modernize it. Modernize it. Modernize it. Listen, I think I've just really been wanting to say modernity. Modernity.
Starting point is 00:11:17 That should be the, that should be the name of the store. That's like a store in Salt Lake City. Modernity and like you go there and you get a shawl. So anyway, they're buying. So they are trying on different things, and at least it's like, what about this one? It's like a red suit, they're like, no, sorry, red's not allowed. That's really, really allowed black, sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:40 So then they're at, like. You know what? Like, okay, let's get him a size 32, but you know what? He might get Trevih on mission, so maybe a 33. Oh my god, the restaurants in Bogota are supposed to be oh, amazing. Oh, you know what? I love that pair over there.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Can we just do jungle chic? Like what it is. Like army pants? Get those. I don't know. Sheek to sheep. What is she? What is Lisa's conception of what Bogota is in Colombia? It's not like walking through like vines and snakes and adicons.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Japanese machine guns. What? You know people very well. Someone dressed in army gear, dinging their door knob. Dinging their door knob. Dinging their door knob. What happens if he finds a lot city of treasure? Does he have a sack so we can bring something back?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Is that allowed? Oh my God, speaking of, I watched that Indiana Jones maybe on the plane. Oh, how was that? Terrible, terrible movie. Terrible, terrible movie. Terrible, my God. It just took all the life out of fucking Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 00:12:45 If Harrison's tired, don't make another movie. They're like, what would this be like if we just made Indiana Jones with zero personality? Who's the new young? Who's the new young? Because they got rid of Shilah Buff, right? Because he's a terrible person. So now there's like a new person carrying on the torch, right?
Starting point is 00:13:04 His friend's daughter. And she's the girl who did the show Fleabag, Phoebe Waller Cates or Phoebe Kate Waller. I mean, she was fine. I thought that maybe sucked. Okay, of course it sucked. I'm sorry that you watched it. I did, I watched it.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I'm sorry you watched it. But I love that it's Lisa Barlow's idea of what Jack's mission in Colombia is going to be like, he's going to go down the har, and he's going to recruit him to go down to the jungle, and he's going to find a secret society, he's going to come back with lots of gold. You know what, Jock needs, Jock needs to be wearing clothes that he can either be missionarying to people, or if the big ball is chasing him, he can run from that.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Although maybe he should ask if the ball wants to join LDS. So I love the sales guy. She's like, I love that you guys are taking a more modern approach just to suiting. And he goes, yeah, I feel like missionaries don't have to look ugly. And so Jack comes out. He's wearing a very standard mission missionary outfit, but he has like a light blue tie. Like that's the modern touch. Yeah, he's like, way that's ugly now.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Am I right? And Lisa's like, yeah, you know what? We don't need to forget fashion. Okay, drop, come out. And so he comes out in this teal tie and she goes, oh my God, what a cute, that up, Misha never. And Jack's like, I think you need this separation
Starting point is 00:14:22 from me, like you're a lot. I mean, I love you, but I need space. When you were 18, you were telling me you were getting into Russian guys, limos and stuff and parting. Now you need to let me live my life. It's time for me to leave the nest. Yeah, it just doesn't make it less hard for us. And by the way, if you do encounter a wealthy Russian
Starting point is 00:14:45 with a limo, I do encourage you to get into it. So that, I mean, it only they say good things. And by the way, as you fly out of the nest, please stop by a fantastic Sam's story, because like literally, your haircut is embarrassing no matter where you're sent. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- We're trying to do an emphasis on modernity. So Lisa is saying, I just think I have a hard time without Jack being there for the holidays and stuff. It's gonna be sad.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And she talks about how this is like really personal and he's doing it for all the right reasons. And he knows the right decision for him. And he has everything, he has fingertips and he can be doing anything in the whole entire world. But this is what he chooses to do. He's choosing to serve people from the moment he wakes up to the time he goes to sleep, to which I say,
Starting point is 00:15:29 he could have also worked at Apple Bees. Yeah, exactly. You got time to lean, you got time to clean, buddy. Jeez. I'm just like, you know, like he's doing it for the right reason, he could be doing anything in the world, but you know what, he just doesn't want to go to college. So he's spreading love, kindness and tell. I don't think Bogota has seen till yet.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, yeah, get ready Bogota, Teals coming for ya. So she says, Jack is about to say Bogota, I'm not okay. Remember what you used to say to me when you were little Get out of my face god. I'm trying to grow these bangs out stop it mom. No when you said my heart beats them to mom to mom He's so mortified that is a mortifying thing to say about your son on camera my heart beats to you mom So I could feel like I was just yesterday about you home. It's yesterday about you home and shows you how to use the straw. So you could make your tight coke and knock it upon to face. Is this the little boy I introduced to you? Is this the little boy I brought to Wendy's? He's like, it'll be good for me to come back and you
Starting point is 00:16:46 to look at me as an actual adult because like going to live in a poor country maybe I'll come back and be able to see the good stuff. What the fuck? You can't see your good stuff. Last year you were saying you wanted to save up money from the business you were handed after doing all that nothing to buy a fucking McLaren and now you need to go to a poor country to just get the hell out of here. Go. As you come back and be two years, you'd be like, yeah man, someone will be like,
Starting point is 00:17:11 hey, I just got a new iPhone, I'm so excited. Yeah man, I just spent two years in a poor country, like less more than iPhones, like banks, I guess. I use an Android mouse, so. I learned a lot. I moved on to Samsung. I heard that Samsung's are popular with Gen Z. Did you hear this?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Where am I gonna hear that? From your nieces maybe? No. Not to that point, but in guys. Samsung is so in. Cause you know what, Gen Z loves phones that don't work as well. You don't bend just plainly the Samsung people.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I like Samsung other things like TVs and signs. I don't know. Listen, I just need, I'm dating your phone. You're fucking your phone. You know what I mean? You're dating your phone. You're reading your phone. You're fucking your phone. Like, it needs to be dependable. And also you need to be in a good solid group message. So listen, if I'm fucking you and group messaging you, it's gonna be iOS until something proves itself otherwise. You know, I've had all the other clients, I've had the,
Starting point is 00:18:15 I've had the note when it came out because it was like the first fablet. Remember when we used to say that? Fablet. I just bear us for all of us. It's like so gay. I feel like Lisa Barlow still says that, hey guys, I just got a thop-la.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah, I've had a couple of Samsung's and it was harder to fuck the Samsung, I have to say porn loaded's slower, more slowly. Okay. So that's some information nobody needed. Thanks Ben for dragging me into that one. Heather arrives at a bar, Monica's in and they're dressed very formally.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah, actually, I loved the way Heather looked. I thought this was a great look on Heather. I feel like I made me realize I've never really seen Heather dressed formally before. She's tried to do looks and stuff, but not proper formal. They read a nice hotel bar or something. It was actually two nights for the show.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I was concerned, I was like, was the TCPY not available to shoot, what's going on. So we've had a lot of events that have not taken place on top of that hotel with a pool. Yeah, it's time for commercial, it's time for a crap and it's almost that magical time of year. Speaking of, what's your favorite Christmas story, Ben? Hands down, the Grinch.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Same. It cracks me up that he hates all the mariments. Right, and he steals everyone's presents. But then it's like so heartwarming at the end when the whole town is still singing and he realizes that there's more Christmas than just gifts. Oh, I know, it hits me right in the fields. Best part is, Wondry has a new podcast
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Starting point is 00:20:22 How would that happen? Yeah. If they finally bam your asses from that pool. Is there not a cake that could be shaped like Whitney's boobs for someone to press their face into? Did they finally realize that none of you live in that building? I just was shocked that there was anything that looked as nice as this and Salt Lake City. Everything has been just sort of like a suburban, you know, it's like majianos. So... Salt Lake City, everything has been just sort of like a suburban, you know, it's like majianos. So, um,
Starting point is 00:20:46 I think that's a Samsung, if you will. By the way, that's been fighting here, not me. Listen, I, um, by the way, if Samsung would like to change our minds and become a sponsor, I fully welcome it. I will, I will be, I embrace it. I've left it right now. I'm your OLED TV. Oh, listen, I like the old.
Starting point is 00:21:03 You say OLED or OLED or OLED. Oh, listen, I like it. You say OLED or OLED or OLED. I, I think I say OLED. I never really say it. I have no reason to say it in life. You know, it's like the other day I said, ribald, and I'm like not even sure that's how I say it, because it's a word that just always reads, but I never actually have to say it.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Is it ribbled? I think it's ribald. Ribbled. Oh, led. Ribbled. Is it Samsung or is it Samsung? I'm not sure I'd ever actually say it. Okay, so they meet at this bar.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Monica's carrying around a big box. Do we ever find out what's in the box? No, I'm assuming it was maybe that rum that she bustled later, or maybe she was there just to steal some bottles from behind the bar. Who knows? So they start, Heather orders a shard main that's called bread and butter, which I think is so funny.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I would drink that. It's just for a great thing, just bread and butter. Hell yeah, I would order anything called bread and butter. I would order salad called bread and butter. So I sometimes have this weird thing where I always, when things are named after other things of the same category, it's strange to me. So I think it's funny when people name their dogs.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I've said this before, when people name their dogs after other animals, like if someone names their dog bear, I'm like, why are you calling your dog bear as a dog? It's like, why would you do that? But it's funny to me to name a wine after a different food item, you know? Like, oh, this is wine, we're gonna call it bread and butter. It's kind of like a mind-fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I love it. It's a bread and butter. It's a delicious mind-fuck mind-chu. Yeah, me this. It's not saying bread and butter, because I'm so, I'm gonna get better at bread and butter. So, then we find out that Moscow amulets might be a favorite drink,
Starting point is 00:22:42 which we don't need to be talking about all this. Why are we? Because, a modicus favorite drink is a Moscow amulet. And one of you all is my favorite drink, which we don't need to be talking about all this. Why are we? Because Monica's favorite drink is the Moscow, and you'll, and one of you might have trivia one day where that is actually asked. So Heather, they're talking about Bermuda, and Monica's like, no, I'm not gonna go. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Broom. Ha. You took that way too well, by the way. And Heather's like, well, I just felt really bad after a lunch in, you know? uh, I felt that you were down after completely starting a fight, uh, where I knew the person was going to kick you off the wagon. So I made her sit in front of the whole table and a bonnet shaking butter. I just had a, I had a vision of you just rolling around in the dust as a wagon, wagon,
Starting point is 00:23:22 a wagon train just leaves you behind and heads off to the Donner Pass where people would rather eat themselves than spend another instance with you. So I felt bad, I felt bad imagining that of you. And Monica's like, yeah, well, it was just like a really difficult meal for me. Oh, and Heather's like, well girl, you just like, you know, you dish it out
Starting point is 00:23:40 but you've got to be able to take it. She's like, yeah, okay. Lunch lady, you're the one dishing it out but you've got to be able to take it. She's like, yeah, okay lunch lady, you're the one dishing it out. You're the one starting it at least. I mean, I guess Lisa is technically the one that dished it out, but you made the mac and cheese. Okay. So she's like, you know, Linda was at home giving a standing ovation like, thank you. Thank you. I someone finally says it. Someone because like, okay, the atmosphere in your ramps that right. So I know there's like, I was trying to like tough love you out of the situation.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And I won't do that again. I learned. And she's like, well, the best thing I could have done is just shut up. So like, I owe you that biggest apology. I'm so sorry. I was just like so honored to do this trip with you. And I completely let you down She really does have those swings like Jen. They're right. Or Monica just loses it Angie was right earlier in the episode when she's like this girl just loses it
Starting point is 00:24:34 And then she comes back with an apology every time but every franchise seems to have this person and when it's done Right, it's deeply entertaining right like Monica's like this You know brandy land bowl in her prime wasy Glandville in her prime was like this Ramona in her prime was like this to the people who were just like chaotic and then they apologize and it's just like, it's really fun. Monica's just another one of these types.
Starting point is 00:24:56 So Heather's like, it's okay. She's just, you know Monica being so apologetic, but she also has shown she has a dark side. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and like, I like Monica a lot as a person, but I can't help to feel like there are alarm bells going off. I'm like, there probably are little alarm bells going off because she's probably stealing someone's jewelry.
Starting point is 00:25:18 So they're literal alarm bells. He was like, like, I'm hearing them right now. Like, has anybody seen our box of rum? We've just had it delivered. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Monica's like, I am counter calling the police on you guys. So I'm countersuing you for a leaving rum for me to take.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Like, I thought that was free. So I literally took my hand in a toilet to see if there's a run bottle down there girl. So Monica's like, okay, the turning over new leaves and not getting mad about every single thing. And Heather goes, yeah, and not calling women ugly and old. And she says, well, we are middle age. So that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:25:57 She has no one wants to be reminded of that. First of all, why aren't you mad at somebody for calling somebody else old? You should be thanking her. You own a youth-ending business. No, no. This is more money for you. You've got to, listen, you've got to make up
Starting point is 00:26:09 for that money that Monica won't pay you. So, you know, get the business. Chances are most of us called the Botan's Lady after that episode. I did. So now Meredith and Seth and Brooks are walking very blazely if that's a word Oh, I was like I hear like a
Starting point is 00:26:28 Oh, Ronnie here. I'm trying to get a fondling that that was such a beautiful Ronnie put a topotchico label on his forehead and then it's like blue to the side in a very dramatic way Like I have to imagine that's what the movie looked like that Linda watch. I saw a movie about a woman in Croatia who had a Topa Chico label on her forehead and she never got to tell her mother about it. Okay, so let's go to this party. It's Meredith's jewelry party and she's in Tweety Bird Yellow and she's like, wow, it's a sort of an entral to play in it by Meredith Marn.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It's made for people who can't afford to find jewelry. And then they cut to earrings that are $1,390. This is not how poor people shop, man. What the fuck is this? And basically, what I do is I hold a net and I watch Andy G. K. throw plates down on the floor while she says, oh, but I take the shards and turning to jewelry, hence the name, plated. So she basically, she's, she's excited.
Starting point is 00:27:32 She wants to say, she's like, she said she wants to see how this jewelry was received by people. She knows and loves before she puts it on the world. Well, that's not going to be helpful because everyone would be like, I love this. This is so great. You're not going to get any good feedback from that. No, it's just her, it's just her housewives party. because everyone's gonna be like, I love this. This is so great. You're not gonna get any good feedback from that. No, it's just her house-wise party. She doesn't mean it. So Heather brings her some butter
Starting point is 00:27:50 and it's very butter-heavy episode. It's very butter-heavy season. I would say. Then everybody starts arriving with these upset because of Sherry and she tells Meredith about it and Meredith is Meredith cries. And she's like, I can't believe you came. And Wendy's like, yeah, Sherry would want me too.
Starting point is 00:28:09 So then Whitney is talking to Monica. And she's like, you know, I don't know if I should drink, but Sherry would want me dancing on those tables. Mm-hmm. And everyone's just like hugging Whitney. It's actually like the stuff with Sherry, it's very, very sad. It's sweet and sad.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And like everyone's just hugging her and It's actually like the stuff with shirts. It's very, very sad. It's sweet and sad. And like it's everyone's just hugging her and everyone's saying hi. This is where Heather comes up and is like, it's okay, just compartmentalize. It's okay if you do. I was like, ah, I don't know. I don't know if I love that advice, but sure. Well, I think she's saying it's okay to be at a party
Starting point is 00:28:41 right when Sherry died. Like, it's okay to compartmentalize and you can do two things at once. Like, you can still grieve and you can still come to this. You're not a bad person for trying to get you some, some diss, some free Meredith Marks jewelry because you know that shit's expensive. Right, so Heather's talking to Whitney about this
Starting point is 00:28:57 and then Lisa comes over with like a bunch of like jewelry or beads or something in her hands. She's like, for 20, huh? You know what? Heather's book party was on for 20. So here's some kind of a sketch. Ah, and she's like is giving gifts to Heather. And we can see that Whitney is like really upset
Starting point is 00:29:12 that she did not get a hug from Lisa. And then she's like, you know, we see the clip of her going, I can't believe you acted that way in my prism of that, but I thought we moved on. And she's saying, and she was the first person I called about, Sherry and now for her to act like I'm not existing right now is very heart-full. And Lisa is doing that, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:32 She's like, yeah, it's pretty. Which I guess is her being awkward, like not knowing how to approach the subject. So she's just over doing it. Yeah, I was giving her credit what I thought I don't know is do. Yeah, I was wondering if she was doing that thing where she's trying to seem actually so normal.
Starting point is 00:29:49 So that was she doesn't want to like make, but when you make, when you feel a certain sort of way, like, I don't know, but either way, when you clear, anyone who knows when he knows that she would want dog and all that stuff. So then we cut to Seth going up to a bunch of women and saying, I think, more you buy, I think more you save.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And they're like, thank you, sir. So Monica and Whitney are looking at the earrings and stuff. And Whitney's like, you know, when I think of Meredith, I think of this. This ring, the poison ring, and star dust. And then Meredith gives a speech where she's like, oh thank you all for coming today. Super, super excited to launch my new collection, plated by Meredith Marks. It was inspired by the little planks that I put my Gerber baby food on for my toddler.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And I just want to think first and foremost my husband Seth marks and he's like what me what what mayor what I'm trying to see where this is well she then goes on and says well no through this process there were a lot of frustrations, and he was always there to support me and never stop me. He never put the brakes on with the support. So thank you. Thank you, Seth. And then yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Like a little disc to Lisa. Wow, things are never pumping the brakes without me even knowing the brakes will pump. I was really nice to you, Seth. Ha, ha, ha, Sam. So then we see, then Meredith and Monica are looking at Julian chatting and then at least, oh, this is the start us thing. And then, yeah, we lost.
Starting point is 00:31:36 But also Meredith tells us the whole plated collection ranges from 50 to $500. Then why do they keep showing? Then we see something that's like $5,000. What the hell, Meredith? Do you think she's just mixing the cheap stuff with all the expensive stuff since she's got rich people there anyway?
Starting point is 00:31:53 I'm not sure. I'd have to go back and look, but maybe that could be her clever little, no, you know, I would say. If they're like doorbusters, she's not that shit. They're like doorbusters or they're lost leaders, who knows. So they're like talking about jewelry and everything.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And Whitney is like Lisa comes up while Meredith and Lisa, while Meredith and Meredith and Whitney are looking at jewelry and Lisa comes up and interrupts them. And Whitney like basically gets an excuse to get out of there and she goes over and talks to the guys. And then so I'm on the clothes like Lisa and when I tell you something, when we first had lunch together,
Starting point is 00:32:24 I would like to so excited to bond with you and I just think we just it just went so far left and got so ugly And I'm owning my part. Okay, I fight very dirty I say things I don't mean and even if I'm gonna put this in my mother's name, I still own it You got that Still my I don't ever want to go that low again, because we're smarter than that. Yeah, and I respect you, and you do a lot of things that I admire.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Like, the way you, the way you eat chewing gum is really cool, I guess, it's like innovative, so like- You're really consistent. Like, it's amazing how every time you go to eat, you have crems in your front hair. That's like crazy. Like, good for you.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Also, you're kind of a good mom, I guess. And Lisa's like, oh my God, you were so guided up, I was just saying, you're really good at that. She goes, no, but I'm being serious. She goes, I know, you're really good. This is like the one time I'm like, keep talking Monica.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Okay, keep on. You know, I just felt is like the one time I'm like keep talking Monica. Okay, keep on You know, I just felt like like you have a senior and I have a senior and then Like you know, I was going through like going through like a mission everything. Oh, yeah By the way, jox going to Bucket, I Colombia fashion capital of Europe and she's like oh my god Stop he's going to Columbia. Yeah, there's like a jungle and everything. It's like literally not even any building. It's just all plants. Oh my god, like no one even told me. Like that's like, make me wanna like,
Starting point is 00:33:50 honestly like, miss when I cry because like the Columbia inside me is like my dad and like I don't like know my dad and I just feel like disconnected. I just like wanna cry right now. And so Lisa's like, okay, you know what? You've had trauma, okay? And you've had trauma I guess.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And you know where I've had trauma? My? And you've had trauma, I guess. And do you know where I've had trauma? My friend chaps out, I'm track art. So once I start to see like, it's a problem, like I pull back, I'm on a, cause like, yeah, well that's why I'm apologizing, cause like I'm just that way, because that's how I was raised. And Lisa's like, oh, okay, then we're fine.
Starting point is 00:34:21 We're fine, right? I was at double check, I really, I don't even know when we're fine. Okay, we're fine. We're fine. We're fine, right? I was at double check. I really I don't even know when we're fine Okay, we're fine. We're fine Then by the way, thank you so much for not bringing that plant over there into the conversation Until that we kept up between the two of us so Then said it's talking to Heather and he's like we need to find a man for Heather
Starting point is 00:34:40 What's your perfect man? Do you want to bring one to podcast? I stop compromising. What would be the physical features of your Kendall? She's like compromising is not banging 24 year olds. Okay, brassering. So then some crazy face lady tells Heather that her daughter got into USC. She's kind of like Brandy Glanfield just showing up everywhere. She kind of looks like Brandy. And so then Heather makes a joke. She goes, be honest. Did you put her on a rowing machine? I appreciate that. And then Lisa, what does it mean? I think that's a reference to the scandal, the Felicity Huffman and Lori Lothon scandal of like the college admission scandal. One of my favorite scandals of the past 10 years.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Just because it was like everyone could get behind it. It didn't become politicized. There wasn't a culture war around it. We all just were like, ha. So anyway, Lisa and Whitney, I went, can I throw you a second? Just a quote Monica. So Lisa's like, listen, I had like a little lunch with Marathas,
Starting point is 00:35:47 and I felt like the conversation was like, not the best, but I thought we fell off to fine. Yeah, I'm lost my friend and life is too short for this shit, so forgive me if I don't have the capacity. And she's like, oh, oh, I didn't want to be intensive. I mean, I was just asking, she's like, yeah, but then when you walked up, and then Monica interrupts them, and when he's like, who's rubbing my back? And she goes, okay, I was just asking. Yeah, but then when you walked up and the moniker
Starting point is 00:36:05 interrupts them and when he's like, who's revving my back? And she says, okay, I'm starting to wrap up. I want to show you guys something. Come over here for five minutes. So it's already bad timing, right? Yeah. So at least it's like, okay, I just, it was bad timing with Whitney like I don't know. Should I talk to her? Should I not talk to her? Right. And so Monica's like, okay, girls, like now the world gathered around and not wearing bonnets. I just wanna give you guys some Bermuda Ram because they're known for their Ram.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And these are called Milacias, their pastries. And I'm like really excited for Bermuda. I have like a lot of family, like it's just like a lot of trees there, which is like my mom loves to talk to them. And like my grandma was born there and like my great grandma and like my great-grandfather and they were all they actually moved there to like build up Bermuda I'm like so colonizers okay got it
Starting point is 00:36:54 Well, I mean who among us my rhyme happy Thanksgiving everybody just just as funny. It's just like yeah We just like came up like my great-grand grandparents came over to basically like build up permutas. It was funny in 2020 it was really funny thing to say. We built that so basically we found it for you. My grandparents basically founded Bermuda. They were called the Grady Racers. So hugs. So everyone's like wow I guess that sounds fun.
Starting point is 00:37:25 She goes, yeah, so it's not just a girl's trip. It's a chance for me to meet family. I'm so sick of yelling at the same lady in knockoff pajama pants. I cannot wait to yell at a couple of cousins. So yeah, she just, this is like, she wants to know more about where she comes from. And so they all cheers for Bermuda.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And then Monica apologizes again for, you know, I guess, Pioneer Day or whatever. And everyone's like, good job, Monica. You did it. Great work. And the music's all happy. And the music, everything feels like great. You're like, oh, wow, this episode's really like,
Starting point is 00:37:59 and this is an episode that ended on a happy note. But I'm like, but there's still six minutes left. So what's going on? What's about to happen? And we see earrings $2600. I was like, this whole party is a lie. I'm there. I said it. So then Whitney is talking to Brooks about losing her friend. And Brooks is like, I'm so sorry. Oh God. So just starts running like he was running on the ski slope that day or in the snow-shoeing day. The look on his face, what he always went,
Starting point is 00:38:31 he's like, is this what I do? Like, what am I supposed to do next? Gross. He's like, ox. So Monica goes up to this table where these guys are eating the pastries. And she says, I'm sorry, but those are not free. Those are gifts.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Sorry to be the mean one to take away gifts, but you're old. You're ugly. Actually, one of the girls didn't show today, so you can have her box in here. So some room. The gay guys like, you have taste girl. So then we go to Lisa and she goes up to Whitney goes, Whitney, are you doing okay? Like, I think dealing with death is difficult.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And I know, like, and I know you don't know how to approach it with people. So I'm sorry lots of someone who's so important to you. And, or I guess did Whitney say that? No, but Lisa said that. Well, basically, look, she's like, I don't know how to approach death with people, you know, and you, I'm sorry, you lost someone so important to you. And Whitney is like, what's that really hurts?
Starting point is 00:39:28 Cause you walk right past me and then you go to Heather with gifts, like, oh my God, Heather. She goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, she's, yeah, ah-ha. And then you're looking me like, are you okay? No, I'm not okay. I need you to look at me. I need you to hug me and acknowledge
Starting point is 00:39:40 I lost my best friends. She's like, oh my God, listen, I'm losing my son to Bogota, to Bogota. Luckily he keeps the fashion alive. So then she's like, you know, I'm sorry, Whitney, I'm sorry, I can't keep a mental calculator, everything going on for everyone all times, all moments, which is really you should say to someone who's the queen as the wrong response. She is the queen of the universe. Just say it. It's like, does the wrong response. See, of the queen of velvety, I think they say. Just say, it's like a really, really easy path forward in these situations, because like when people are in mourning
Starting point is 00:40:12 and grief, they're gonna, they're full of emotion. And you just say, I'm so sorry, Whitney, I'm so sorry. I'm just say, I'm sorry, over and over again. Don't say, I'm sorry, I don't have an mental calculator. Remember, every single thing that's gone right on your life. So Whitney's like, yeah't say, I'm sorry, I don't have an mental calculator. Remember, every single thing that's gone running your life. So Whitney's like, yeah, well, I'm talking to you about it for the last five days. I'm like, bitch, I texted you about it last night.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Does this bitch need an abacus to keep track of that? It was 22 hours ago, 25 hours ago. Could somebody get me an abacus to tricky track of it? The abacus reference wow, I was not expecting abacus to ever come out of Whitney Rosa's mouth. She got a new gay this year Well, she has she thought I had something to do about cursing well listening to Abba. So Lisa, that's an Abba Cascar. So Lisa is like, it wasn't out of lack of concern for you. It's more about wanting just to talk about me. Okay, you're always important.
Starting point is 00:41:15 You're always super important, which is why I came and talked to you 45 minutes into this party about this. So when he's like, well, I would expect to come before Heather and I texted you last night and I didn't text until everyone. I just came to So, Whitney's like, well, I would expect to come before Heather and I texted you last night and I didn't text until everyone. I just came to you and she's like, but I responded to that.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And she's saying, um, well, but then you gave Heather a gift instead of comforting me. And she's like, okay, I'm sorry. She's like, that's not really what happened. As more than I was excited, she's, well, that's how it appeared to me. And I tried to suck it up, but they hurt my feelings. And Lisa's like, well I'm not perfect. I'm not perfect, okay? You know who has?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Jack and a skinny tie. I made a sandwich. I made a sandwich. Yeah, it's a very modern, it's not a black tie, it's just a very deep shade of navy blue. Some modern. Yeah, so she's like, that should be, yeah, I'm not perfect, everything, and you know, I'm just like, I'm not a bad person.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I'm a good person. I'm a good person, too. No, you're not a bad person, but I think you're lacking in self-awareness, because well, I think it's triggering seeing me talk to Heather, I think that's what you felt. No, it wasn't that. Okay, just making sure, just making sure. So Lisa tells us, you know, Whitney texted her about her friend passing and she felt really terrible and she sent flowers, but they're in public and she doesn't know how quiet Whitney wants
Starting point is 00:42:34 to keep this and she doesn't want to say anything because she doesn't know how Whitney handles grief or whatever. But this is a thing with Lisa because remember with Meredith's father dying, Lisa was the same. I was Meredith arguing against Lisa like for Christ sake woman my dad just died She's like, oh my god, you know what what just died in my house My dream of Jacoing to college. That's what just died in my house like oh my god Lisa. It's not about you Lisa This is also a real housewives thing in general Like when someone dies and like you didn't,
Starting point is 00:43:08 you didn't, this is a, yeah, this is Marlo with candy. Like you didn't, like the candy is like, I texted you. I texted you. Well, that was a stretch. That one was like, right. But like this is, but I think we've seen things like this before where it's like, it's like, when people are dealing, obviously when people are dealing with grief,
Starting point is 00:43:26 they, like I said, they're full of emotion and they tend to over-react. It's not anything that's wrong with them. It just, it's like, there's so much going on. But we've seen this in housewives fights before where it's like, someone's like, but I texted you. I was, Joel's Aaron and Bethany Frankl, although that was about cancer, it wasn't about death.
Starting point is 00:43:43 But, like, this is definitely something that's come up a time and time again. But in this case, Lisa is really messing up. Lisa just has such an easy way out of it. And the fact that she chooses not to take the easy way out of this argument is just how she never does. She never does. She takes it, and she takes everything in such a way that she's like, oh my god, they're attacking me and making me look stupid on TV, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah, instead of just being like, I'm so sorry that I need to be insensitive. She's like, oh my God. Now on the bitch on TV, how could you do this? Yes, I knew I knew this. Yes. She's been texting me about it for days and now she's gonna make me look like an asshole about it on national TV, you know, right? Which is just so Lisa to react that way. So You know, right, which is just so Lisa to react that way. So she's like Whitney said, but I texted you first, Emily says the same, but there's flowers on the way to your house, there's flowers. And she's like, but I don't need flowers, I need you. What?
Starting point is 00:44:36 What? What? Oh, yeah, sorry. Oh, go ahead. No, I guess I would need starts to storm out. And so Lisa goes after her and starts saying, like, what? No one wants you to leave in Whitney.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Whitney's like, I'm gonna leave. And then everyone's watching them storm out together and it's like, what's gonna happen? Right. And this, you know what Whitney? It's like, part of me is cringing because I'm like, oh, I don't know. It's like using your friend and I don't know. The whole thing is making me uncomfortable,
Starting point is 00:45:04 but also she's mourning, right? So I don't think that you act like your friend and I don't know, the whole thing is making me uncomfortable, but also she's mourning, right? So I don't think that you act like you're normal self when you're mourning, you know? And she is right, at least as fucking soft as she's now. You know what? But at least I said, like I don't have a cat, I don't have a calculator to keep track of every single little thing that happens in my friends' lives.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I thought that was a pretty, at least a really good thing to say to this. Making it this like, but then you gave Heather a gift. I'm cool. I don't know how it starts becoming, but then I have to realize like there's no reason and grief, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:34 And also she's not really wrong either. But she is very Whitney. Like I'm leaving. And then she just comes right back around. She never leaves. And she kind of comes back with this like little Whitney smirk on her face.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah. But Lisa loses her shit, right? So she chases Whitney out and she's like, oh my God. Oh my God. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And the producer's saying, Lisa, we need to check your mic. Just, no, no. You guys need to stop this, right? Now, you need to stop it right now. And then you just see Meredith going,
Starting point is 00:46:11 wow. And then John going, if it's not one thing, it's another. So then now Lisa, now when he's gone back into the party, when he's like, I'm leaving, I'm going back. And then Lisa is now outside and she is with production and she's having a meltdown. She's like, mother fucker, fuck, mother fucker, fuck this. Like literally, like you know what?
Starting point is 00:46:30 You wanna see, you wanna see about putting people first and then we see, by the way, she's having this meltdown and there's this random green piano behind her with this like teenage girl playing it. Did you notice that? There's this random teenage like shadow. And she's like not looking. I'm like, you've got Lisa right next to her screaming,
Starting point is 00:46:47 fuck this, fuck this. And this girl's just staring straight ahead, like the Blair Witch and then my stress. She's like, I'm like gonna get excommunicated. And so Lisa's like, you know what? Why don't you like, keep your fucking mouth shut. Ha! And then the, like the sound person of the PA
Starting point is 00:47:02 or whoever tries to put a mic pack back on these because no, no, no, no, no, you're not putting that back on. You're not putting that back on. And so John comes to get her and she's like, oh my God, it's written here. I'm just like, so sick of this. I'm a selfish person. I'm all about myself. I'm all about myself.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I mean, you are kind of like somebody's event. You're going to make it it by yourself right now. Like you're acting like you are the one who is in the biggest state of pain when it's Whitney who's on a screaming her friend, but that's why we love housewives because they make everything about themselves. Yeah, I mean, yeah, Lisa Barlow
Starting point is 00:47:39 with self-awareness to show wouldn't work. Yeah, I love it. And I think I said this last week, that's I always know it's a good season when they announce the, they announce the vacation and they still can't even get to the vacation the next episode because there's still too much going on. All right, well that brings us to the end of this two-pawder. Thank you so much everybody for being with us. We will be back with lots of stuff this weekend. We've still got Beverly Hills coming, Miami coming, Southern Charm coming, next week. We've got all those shows.
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Starting point is 00:48:28 because there's like so much stuff happening at the end of the week. So for people who are gonna be wondering where those recaps are, listen for them on Mondays. Okay, we'll talk to you guys next time. Bye everyone. Watch what crap ends, would like to think it's premium sponsors.
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