Watch What Crappens - #2278 RHOSLC, Part 2: Detached From Reality

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

Welcome back to part 2 of our recap. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City season 4 finale (S04E16) was so riveting, so shocking, so unbelievable that we don’t know what to do with ourselves. Come join us in the Bermuda Triangle for this monumental hour of television.  Put it in the Library of Congress! Watch with Crappens on Demand here:  http://bit.ly/crappensvideoSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello and welcome back to Watch What Crap In's podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me is the one and only and lovely Aronnie Karim. We are in part two if you're wondering what happened to part one. Well, it's on the feed. So chances are you may have missed it. So go back and check it if you haven't listened to it. Otherwise, if you're just jumping in now or you're picking up from where you left off, here we go. Some earth is like, well, I have a question here. My question

for you, Heather, is we've been friends for several years now and I'm wondering why I didn't get more support from you on this trip specifically in describing the difference between neutral drive and reverse on a moped. Thank you. Mm-hmm. And the king, you didn't stand up for me at all. Yeah, what about you? Yeah. We don't see thoughts like that.

It cracks the earth thinking of you. You don't stand up for me at all. Oh. You didn't stand up for me. Not won't be at all. And so we see two days earlier Just sending the tiams about on jam but don't know that you're done But sicker that's my dad and where does this like I'm not hurt and disappointed so

By the way, I was like well listen Monica was just very clear and she was very convincing and you didn't even have an issue with anything that she said So what was I supposed to think? And by the way, what's hilarious is that all of the OGs, basically everyone except for Angie Kay, because of course, they all know that Heather is going to confront Monica and they can all see what this is. So they're just kind of going through the motions of fake dust-ups right now, just waiting for Heather to take over and do what she's gonna do. And so Heather does-

Well, it's interesting that they're even going through all of this. Part of me was like, well, are they trying to prove, like, listen, we can still have a good finale even without this Monica stuff. Like, we're still gonna have really good fights even before we bring up this Monica stuff, which of course didn't prove that, like there was no proof in that pudding. I don't think that this was, I don't think they thought this was going to be the finale because normally a finale party does not happen on vacation, it does not happen without

all sorts of others. There I'm sure a production wanted Mary to be part of the finale, but it just had to be the finale, you know. And by the way, good job, Bravo and Shed Media for saying, this is where the season ends, because all too many times we've seen a season climax, and then we sit through two or three more episodes where you're like, why is the season still going? Like, that was the climax.

So good on them for just ending it right here because look at how breathless we all are. Well, I wonder if they even had the choice. Because it could have, the cast could have just been like, fuck, no, I'm not gonna go shoot with that person. They just like totally, no way, there is no way, and I cannot believe you guys just cast a Craigslist gossip on this show.

Like seriously, are there any background checks on this show, which of course we know from past casting. Jenny, Jen, pretty much every housewife that there is no research. Or it's even worse, and it's malicious, and they purposely cast these people, which I guess is a conversation for a different day. So, you know, Heather's like, you know, Monica was very clear and convincing

and you know, you didn't seem to have an issue with it. And Monica's like, hey, you know, I had gone to a point where I like, I have like matured and like what, I don't like react to like lies. I don't merit a census. Okay, that makes much more sense. It's like, why is Monica saying this?

Monica's never claimed to have matured. I thought so. I was like, this is wrong. But I'm shocked to hear Meredith say it too. It seems like the whole point of being a real housewife is to avoid maturing. So it's always weird when someone's like, I'm matured.

But she did. She's like, I'm matured, not faintly. Okay. But mentally, and I've got to have a point where I don't get to longs with screaming and yelling and if Meaving and will answer a question with that tone of voice isn't enough for you know the boy Me, I can the not hurts me Nah, it's like broxing with solids

I like broxing with solids. Inherits. Inherits. Well, it wasn't just me that believe Monica. We all believe her over you. We all think that this is what happened. Correct. That's correct. Correct.

And you're just gonna say yes you do, just declared. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Denise Richards just shows up because thank you, you're welcome Yeah, she knows. Yeah, she knows. Denise Richard just shows up because thank you, you're welcome. You're welcome. So she's like, but why do you think we believe from Meredith? Why do you think we believe you Monica? What do you think? Monica's like, um, because I have the proof, I have the DMs and I have the timeline and I threw myself right into that fire and I just owned it and it just all added up

And do you have the DMs? Has anybody seen these DMs because? No, and we're not told by the way who these DMs were from in the first place We're not told if these were from reality vantes, which oh my god. It was reality vantes. That's hilarious No, but by the way, amazing that Monica says this and just steps right into Heather's trap when she says, I had the evidence, I had the proof, I had the DM's, Yada Yada. So Heather goes, so it had nothing to do with it

being the truth. And Monica's like, oh, the first thing I said was I had the proof, girl, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr because I'm too lazy to write down the goddamn end cards of any season ever. I will never do it. I wrote them down. I don't know. Okay, so I've got these ready now. So just remind me that I've taken it. Makes you want to never leave Bermuda. Am I right? No wonder we never want to go back home. So Monica's, yeah, she's like, I have to prove.

And so I had to go, okay, so I had nothing to do with being the proof. She was, yes it did. And she's, oh, okay. So Lisa's like, I don't think that says getting anywhere. Monica just looks confused at this point. Mm-hmm. And she's just kind of looking at them, kind of blinking,

but like, squinting her eyes. Like, what the fuck's going on here? So I had to say, well, I have Meredith, and I really don't have any many unsolved mysteries burning questions for her. I do however have a few questions about Monica. Heather, you set up the game. Why don't you just give yourself Monica's doll? Yes.

Why are you setting up the game and then fucking up the game because I'm trying to concentrate on all the drama, but I'm just like, you're not even playing your own game right now. I'm furious and she goes I do have a few questions about Monica in unsolved mystery if you will I'm like you just you It's you don't have to be unsolved mystery thing. It's already a convoluted thing with the Bermuda Just Bermuda triangle would have been enough. Don't need to involve this. I'll just go forward So then get like the fun away the costuming is so good on this show that without even realizing it, Monica, it's on the perfect costume

because she has now taken a blanket and wrapped it around herself and over her head. And the wind is blowing at her so she looks very mysterious. They're like, for now for an unsolved mystery, Monica's like, she's fully wrapped up. So the music gets very scary. There's thunder, a thunder clap, the music gets scary and Heather goes, the mystery for me with Monica is,

who is the real Monica? When I met you, we kind of bonded over being single moms, moms of daughters. We really had a great tie, lots of fun, charming, funny, witty, smarter than people may think. And I thought probably, you know, pretty much an open book, True Teller. I don't feel like that's even the Omanica-ish. Did the book exploit my vagina? Wait me?

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She doesn't know that. Right? So she's just like, okay, just do it already. And so she's kind of bored with this whole thing, which makes it even funnier. Because Heather's like, the reality is Monica, is someone who doesn't want to be our friend, but wants to profit from our lives and our pain. Like, first of all, didn't you just write a book that included everybody else's kind of life?

I'm trying to, I mean, just sorry, that was for Whitney. We'll support for Whitney there. That's for you Whitney Rose. I mean, I think that people who just like profit off of the lives of people on Bravo and their pain, I mean, who would do that? Who would do, who would actually create a career? Fucking monster, it's all those monsters.

But here's a great unsolved mystery. How much do you make for being like an Instagram account? Because we know a bunch of these accounts. And now of course, it's terrible to say how much do you make, you know, do that? we know a bunch of these accounts and now of course It's terrible to say how much do you make you don't do that? I mean I've seen the Guild of Age. I have manners So I would never it is America Well even a butler can decide to have an Instagram blog. Oh America, by the way, please stop putting Nathan Lane in things. I can't with Nathan Lane

This is Nathan Lane's acting in the Golden Age Mrs. Ross Wow Never have you ever heard of the new opera high-altre-sian Let me tell you don't a mouth is playing a character and they're totally dirty Like who what is he casting everything? This is literally tarot. Okay, back to this. Back to this. How much Instagram accounts make?

Because reality-mounties. They can make a lot. Well, she didn't have like eight million, you know, I mean, I'm assuming that they make a lot. I'm just like, how much? Like, it seems like a lot. I don't know. Well, I don't know.

So by the way, of course, I looked up reality-vantees last night, and the only thing that came up was Like a backup account because it said reality vantes to but I couldn't find the actual There's two oh really it's on there. Oh, well It was not what I looked Maybe it was like deactivated and then they reactivated again. It probably has like grown exponentially. I heard yeah, I heard that they had to make a couple because it kept getting banned or something. But okay, I'll talk about it more if I get into it. So, have there goes... Because fucking Nathan Lane's annoying. So, that's where I'm at.

So, Heather goes, yeah, she says, you know, like, she doesn't want to be a French, wants a profit off our lives and our pains. I know who you really are and who you really are is, and then all of a sudden it goes back two hours earlier. So I'm like, wait, what? Who is she really? Cause I was expecting, I was like, again, expecting Beauty Lab and Laser,

but what I was not expecting, I guess like I thought like maybe she was gonna finish it by saying like you are someone who is, suing my company or your scam or so whatever. But I was like, wait, wait, so we go back in time two hours earlier. And now Heather is standing on a windy beach so dramatically. Her hair is blowing, her Tweety Bird dress is blowing.

And one level survivor music. I am terrible. And one by one, the women are coming out to join her, like one at a time. It's so good. It's so over dramatic and melodramatic. Give me the shot, like the shot music or whatever for the drinking game,

but like it is so perfect and so. And it is tricky because I was thinking, wait a minute, this scene is at night. So where were all these flashbacks to Heather talking in the daytime, exposing all this stuff, but now we see she was gathering everybody at a meeting in the daytime. So they all went by one. I think that's sort of a dark.

It's like a high contrast filter, but like seep you at a little bit, you know, so it's feel like it's a sunset too. I was filming this. It's sunset, you know, it's like the white Lotus. It was like white. We're going to survive. It's a bachelor meets Epoi Island meets like any reality show that's filmed the white lotus. It was like white lotus, we're gonna survive from each of the bachelor meets Epoil Island,

meets like any reality show that's filmed on a beach, and it was so good. So she's standing there and first one to come out is Whitney and she's, again, she's in her like crazy strap dress and she's like, are you okay? And she has like this look of panic and urgency on her face that just somehow contrast

with this ridiculous dress that she's wearing to. Like this could be a very serious moment and she's in this like bizarre dress. I was really all crazy. I mean Lisa came out dressed like a pinata. I don't even know. I don't know what the theme what her theme is like I have no idea what's going on. So every time someone comes down there, I'm like, are you okay? And say, hold on.

We must wait for everyone. And then Lisa, hey, are you okay? He's like, hold on, we must wait for everyone. And then Lisa, hey, are you okay? You look like a regular favorite Coke. And Heather's like, no, we must wait for everyone. And Meredith's like, whoa, I'm out of that spot. Actually just walking. I don't know. So it was hard to let go of.

Yeah, it was just, you know, it's like, I've got Vespa legs right now. So Lisa's like, I'm nervous, I'm nervous, I'm shaking, I'm nervous I'm shaking. Oh, Heather's like, so am I, there's something I need to tell you guys, and it's big, and it's not good. What is it? You're gonna cry, Heather, you're gonna cry. Oh my God, you're gonna cry.

Oh my God, I haven't seen Heather almost cried like this since she found out you're supposed to wear broth in college. My right good time, girl. Can you just go out there with Lisa? What is that? Guys, we've been a long way together as four. We have. And Monica is not who she says she is.

She's not her friend. She's someone that has schemed and worked to infiltrate our friend group. And the name that you all know her as, Lisa goes, what's happening? The woman whose birthday was celebrated, who we have been trying to champion and support and defend and buy with the choir's work.

Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho! I'm making it sound very, very quiet, but the choir was going not. The woman that you have known It's like final like her name is Reality Von Tees and the chandelier crosses down from the sky and kills Carlotta Please Lisa and Marthio what no no no and I was like Wait, what I don't understand No, no, no! And I was like, wait, what? I don't understand. I was like, that's not, I was like, I'm with everyone with this bombshell revelation.

I'm no idea what it means, but wow, wow, wonderful revelation. Because we really do have that difference between us. I get so obsessed, like I read all the accounts, I read all the gossip, I read all the shit. Yeah, I read the gossip that makes it far enough to get onto my radar if that makes sense. I read the gut, but there's something that's happening,

something major that's happening, like this episode or scandal of all, I do go deep, but for regular stuff, I'm just happy for whatever eventually trickles over to me if that makes sense. No, it makes total sense. I'm obsessive. I'm liked that with everything. I mean, even if it's like, you know what?

I want to buy a new desk. I'm like, I would read every review. Oh, well, I'm like that. I would search it's on Twitter. Or, you know, whatever I get into, I will just sit there and read about it for days and days. And this stuff, I really did, especially when it becomes the crime stuff.

You know what I mean? Like the Erica Jane stuff for the Gen Shaw crimes. Like I love reading up on all that stuff. So I knew who they were, but still I didn't know it as being as, I mean they're making it sound like this vicious, horrible, horrible thing. I don't remember it being that at all. I mean, it's the name sounded vaguely familiar to me,

you know, because there are a lot of, like, me, because there are a lot of, you know, there are a lot of bravo, you know, content creators out there, and a lot of them are pushing, you know, here's the latest gossip and news, and it can be kind of, at a certain point for me, it kind of, it's hard to tell them apart a little bit, not from any shade, it's just that like everyone's delivering a lot of the content and so it can be hard to remember, wait, which one said that thing? You know, where's the origin of this meme? I can't keep it straight necessarily.

So I was like, reality van tees, that sounds familiar. I was like, I don't really know. I was like, I think maybe I remember that, but I'm not sure. It was not like a moment of like, oh my God, reality van, like, it was not like, she's doom-wa, you know? I don't, I of course know doom-wa. Like that would have been, that would have been like,

that would have gotten me like right away. But I was happy to learn and I'm still, I was still in the moment and very happy and very excited. But even with that knowing like what it is, when you're like, oh wow, okay, the new cast member is the head of an account that's been trolling us and attacking us, right? So, um, and we see even, but even before they describe what reality Vantice was, just when Heather said she's reality Vantice, so I was like, oh my god, I don't know what that is,

but I'm still shocked because the reveal here is that Monica has a different identity. Even just on that level alone, whoever reality van teases, whether it's a content creator, whether it's the... I thought maybe it's that the name that she went under when she was suing BeautyLab. I didn't know, but what I did know from this statement was that Monica has an alter ego, has another identity, and that alone is major. And I was like, oh my God, I'm already gagging, gagging. Yeah, well that's always been the kind of the mystery, the unsolved mystery about Monica

since she came on because people are like the different names. And then you look at pictures of her from just a couple years ago and she looks so completely different. And then she worked for Gen Shaw, but when did she work for Gen Shaw? And then she said at one point, she asked her friend who worked for the secret service about Gen Shaw. And he said, oh, steer clear of her because she's going to be arrested where they have a massive case. But then I'll watch what happens live. She said, oh, yeah, of her because she's going to be arrested. Where they have a massive case. But then I'll watch what happens live.

She said, oh, yeah, I called my friend about Jen Shaw. You know, she made it sound like she had something to do with getting Jen Shaw in trouble. So it's like all this weird, conflicting stuff. And then her mom saying that stuff to her, like, oh, really? Your real name. There's just always been this stuff. So to find out that Monica does in fact have a different name. I did the secret tricky lady. And then you take it back to the like what maybe the second or

third episode of the season. I think maybe even the second episode when Monica is making her swathed whatever swattles with her mom and Monica does her famous hilarious monologue thing about how she went to a louis Vuitton store And I bought I spent five thousand dollars in America They just wanted to fit in and it's like the most hilarious You know like melodramatic silly moment where she's crying and like how funny that there she was presenting herself as the poor girl who just wants to fit in and then the reality is that like she's controlling them all this time.

Okay well this is, this is well let's get into it because I don't want to go off too far on my own here because I will. And just a minute, because I've been doing a lot of screenshot. I guess I said there we go. But, um, so, um, Heather's like, she, we see reality shock, a reality Von T's releases damning Jen Shaw video. And Heather says, she has been running this account dedicated to annihilating and exposing Gen Shaw, but quickly it expanded to troll all of us. Me, Whitney, Meredith, Lisa, these were character assassinations. So then they pop up very quickly these screenshots of what these crimes are. One is a response to a Mary post, which I have to say, this Mary post is worse than probably

anything that they've got to want to say. Mary is just vicious. Mary says Whitney Rose needs to worry about the women she took advantage of in ladies' restroom one night at a club. Talk about your truth, you liar. Damn! So then the response from reality vantice was actually Whitney Rose is a swinger. She uses the bathroom as an opportunity to recruit.

So that's crazy, but also was Mary getting this information from reality vantes. Yes, right? Like where else you get that? You know, I'm not sure where Mary gets her information, just generally speaking. Um, okay. So then we see a reposive in Instagram story that is this one I remember. This was a big this. This one I did not realize was

Broken by reality Montice because this became a talking point at the reunion right where Jen Shaw had said something like Talking about Heather and she said bitch you ain't a fucking actress unless you're auditioning for a manatee or Shrek So and then of course that was discussed on the reunion you called me Sh Shrek or Emaniti. So, did I interpret this correctly? That reality Vantees was the one who put this phrase out in public or did Gen-Shop post that in public. I thought it was because it was an Instagram story of a DM session. So let me pull it out. Okay. I know. This is let me pull it up here. Okay.

I know, this is where we get in trouble here. Not in trouble, but you know what I mean. Like we mess with our facts. We get in the wood. This is where we get in the wood. Makes me never want to leave Bermuda, am I right? Okay, so let me see, trigger warning. No, that was the trans thing.

Okay, this is from Gen Shaw and Reality Vante. So this is a DM session between the two. So Monica and this is egging Jen on and trying to get her to save mean shit and then she's screenshotting it and then posting it on the store like she tricked her. In other words, so it starts with bitch, you would and that is Monica saying that. And then Jen writes back, hey white girls, stop doing white girls shit and shut the fuck up and take a seat next to your best friend's Karen and Becky in the back row.

And then Monica hearts that and writes back, why are you the only real bitch? And then Jen writes back, their fake ass white girls Lisa is the only other person I can fuck with. And then comes the bitch you ain't a fucking actress unless you're auditioning for a manatee or shrek. And then reality vantes, aka Monica posted this on her account.

Yes. So then the next post says trigger warning, LGBTQIA plus derogatory language, because Jen called someone Heather's Tranny Twin. Pardon me. So this is where I was like, well, that one is standing against Jen for anti-trance stuff. And the one before that was outing Jen for calling Heather Shrek, this is gonna backfire.

That's my route. It's like this is gonna backfire. This doesn't really make Monica look that bad. It makes it look bad that she was lying to you guys and that she's this other person. And yes, it does make her look like a fan, which is the worst thing you can be in a housewives world. But she's ultimately kind of standing against evil.

That's where I'm at. She is, and I think that's where a lot of people online were, there was a lot of pushback to had there saying, you were right or die for Jen Shaw, and we're supposed to be on your side about this. But I mean, I can understand why there would be frustration by this group with Monica because Monica is part of this group,

but she has sort of trolled them on the internet. That's just sort of like, I feel like that's something that reality cast members, that's like unspoken code. Like, you know, when you're on the show, we can fight with each other, but we're like a family unit against all the influencers and content creators and yada yada yada.

So anyway, Heather says, Heather says that, you says, Heather says, like that, you know, he tells us all about reality vantes, but like we never knew who she was. And we see Lisa, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? And then Meredith says, well, how did you find? Down.

So Heather says, Heather has this whole, like, this whole narration of how she, how she deduced it, which is so funny, because it's it's very much like, spoken not in the tone of the housewives interview, it's spoken in the tone of like we're now watching 48 hours, you know, and like we're like, date line, and the way that people tell like the, and so I pulled up to the convenience store and the car wasn't there.

So she's like, before I had even met Monica, I had known about her through our mutual friend, Tanisha. Tanisha has been my, my hair stylist for over three years and she used to be Monica's closest friend. Monica had a way of handling sensitive information that made me feel so uneasy. Okay, so you remember we brought up I brought up Tanisha on the last crappy hour, I think Tanisha and Bravo wall black when we were on Bravo. We're black. Can you remind me of what's great podcast? So I did watch because I talked about this a little I did watch Tanisha's response all this by the way Oh, you know, I did okay. You'll have to update because I didn't catch it So basically a couple of weeks ago,

Tunisha came out with a tic-talk, just saying, oh Monica, such a liar. And this is how Monica gets people, she'll say, we had this discussion, but sure, maybe you were discussing it in front of me, but now saying to Meredith, like Meredith, we definitely did have this discussion about all this stuff.

Meredith's like, yeah, but I didn't say any of that stuff. So she's talking about the ways that Monica manipulates situations and blah, blah, blah, so it's interesting because I was trying to figure out when I brought it up. Like, who is this girl? Because if she's Heather's hairdresser, then how was she friends with Monica? How did this all work? So it was good that they brought it up and kind of explained it. So Heather says that she, basically, they knew each other

and she started getting suspicious of Monica just because of how she was coming at everybody with all this information and they show a clip to prove this of her saying like, you wanna come for me? Okay, for closure, check, divorce, check, a fair check. I stand in it.

And then, her saying, I've heard a lot of things like basically the Sean Fucks other men thing. He has boyfriends running around just that she's so cavalier with information that can ruin people. Right, at least she just puts it out there, you know? Which of course since we watched the housewives, we're kind of used to this. So I was I personally was not shocked by her delivery, but they were shocked. And by the way, so Tanisha's, she was I saw a video. I

don't know what platform was on, but it was like it was eventually reposted on Twitter or X and she basically was like, you know, you know, this all goes to character, look at my character, you know, I think this speaks to my character, look at Monica's character, look at the people, you know, she basically is like, I'm good Monica's bad. And she, but then she tells, then she does this weird thing where she says, you know, I'm just a sort of person that supports a friend. And like if a friend says that they need support in something, then that's what I do. So I was supporting Monica, but then I, you know,

she basically says like, I was supporting, but then I eventually stopped supporting. But she essentially, you know, I didn't, I think I stopped watching after a certain point. But my takeaway was her saying like, yeah, I helped out with this account, but I was only doing it to support a friend because that's the sort of person that I am.

I support friends. So it's good to see the... I'm happy to see the... I'm happy to see the... I'm happy to see the... I'm happy to see the Salt Lake City. Yeah, I've had to say the Salt Lake City, like I show up for my friend's thing,

really permeates really everyone who's associated with this show. Yeah, she really learned that one from Heather. So basically Heather is like, you know, I thought it was just overseering at first, but now looking back on it, it was much more sinister. She uses information as a weapon, which I mean, yes, welcome to your job. Um, and she relished in the dirty, dark details and the exposing everyone, but in the moment

I didn't see it. But then right before we left Pramuda, things started to get weird. It started when I went to Beauty Lab to get a gift card from Monica and discovered that we had three Monica's with three different last names, but all with the same birth. I was like, oh yes, go on. So I immediately called Drake and she discovered that one of those monocas had never paid her bills and owed beauty lab a lot of money. But then when all this started to go down with the weird messages and the DMs between Meredith and Monica, nothing was making sense.

So then we have a flashback of Monica talking about the DMs and everything that whole fight and Heather goes, I didn't know who to believe. And then Meredith yesterday said, I didn't, yeah, the M-Hur information about Angie. But here's what's interesting. You know why I call her when I got that DM, it's because the DM referenced a bunch of stuff that she had already sent to me.

Me, me, me, me. So then we see a clip of Whitney and Heather talking, and we hadn't seen this before, but Whitney is like, Wait a minute, do you find it strange that Monica got a DM one hour before dinner about Angie? And Heather's like, yeah, that was convenient timing. And do you also think it's strange that you blame my vagina? Okay, please, please, stay in message.

Okay, show me on the doll, wear up my book, hurt your vagina. So it is strange, and by the way, if Meredith is in the hot seat, if Meredith had sent those DMs, and now the heat is on her, she is shutting it down, She is shutting down the operation. She is not gonna send another DM an hour before dinner.

That is why she really overplayed that. I mean, even in the last free cap when we were talking about that, we were like, wait a minute. Because at first we were like, obviously Meredith is guilty, right? Yeah. But then she just overplayed it.

She's like, oh, and then I got this. I'm like, okay, I'm not. Meredith isn't this stupid. You know what I mean? Like Meredith isn't an idiot. You can call Meredith the gossip or if indicative or whatever, but I wouldn't call her stupid. And Heather goes,

and the idea that it could be from one of our friends was incomprehensible. Might I even say horrifying, yet sadly familiar. And you know at home, Angie H was sitting there being like, please show me in a flashback, show me in my husband. Come on, give us one more second of fame. Just I know, no kidding. Your friend Angie Harrington,

and he were trying to have on this show, was the one who had the last fake account. Yeah, he had the last fake account that Yeah, I see he had the last fake account that was coming after Gen Shaw specifically and then later Lisa online. Why are you guys acting like this has never happened? And you were involved with the last one, at least friendwise, that was your friend.

And then something that Monica said kept coming back to me. And so then one day earlier, we had that conversation where Heather goes, do you think Meredith sent the DM? Do you think she had a fake account, which now in retrospect was not Heather just being joky? That was Heather fishing. She was totally fishing. Oh my god, I love this. Samarita is like, girl, I didn't think she would ever do that. I mean, I think you guys would ever do something fucking like that. Like I mean, I would do that shit. Oh, brrr brrr brrr brrr. So then she tells us that, you know,

she knew that Tanisha knows Monica really well. So she called Tanisha. And Tanisha had a crisis of conscious and she came clean about it. And she said, you know, there's something that you really need to know about Monica. Don't, don't, don't. She's reality vantes.

So why aren't you still trusting Tenecia? I know. Because if Tenecia has been your friend and hairstylist for the past three years, and now you find out that she was like besties with Monica while Monica was doing all this shit, it's the semblance of virtue. This is also why Angie Harrington's husband got off with Heather because he cried and was like,

I fucked up, I got into deep, I shouldn't have done it. I don't know what I was thinking and how Tanisha did it. So they are exonerated. And honestly, all Monica had to do tonight was just start to cry and been like, Guys, I didn't know what I was doing. I was in such a sad place because of Jen.

And I don't know what I've learned. I was in such a sad place because of Jen. I don't know what I've learned. So you guys were like sisters and I didn't feel terrible. And it was just, I was living with it. I didn't know how to say it. Like, she just had to say that. But she didn't, which is actually kind of great that she didn't because it's so epic and it's like villainy.

But like, that's all, you know, on these shows, that's all anyone wants is for someone to cry and be like, I don't know, I got so deep, I'm so sorry. I mean, look what's happening on Southern Charm. Literally the same thing, Austin is getting off with Olivia in more ways than one, I'm sure, whereas Taylor, who is, you know, Taylor, Olivia is, I mean, that's a whole other situation,

but the point is this, all Austin had to do was pretend to be sort of, you be sort of humble and he gets off. How many times can I say get off in one five minute session? I'm gonna drink again. So are you getting off with it? Getting off? So yes, the reason I think it's way worse than what they're saying is because Monica

has been so upfront with everything else I'm almost surprised that she wasn't like oh my god you guys. I worked for Gen shot Which she did tell them I worked for Gen shot and she was so abusive and terrible to me that I had this account And I would you know it's almost right she well it yes It seems like it would be worse if for her not to say anything because she almost like brags about the bad things Just to like take away people's power from bringing them up So well and and actually to draw parallel to southern charm the reason why Taylor is getting raked over the cold So much more bio-livia is because

Taylor has She's presented herself as like this is the sort of person that I am and everything that Taylor has done has felt a bit like a betrayal of what she has claimed to be versus Austin's just a piece of shit. So like, we don't expect more from Austin, so therefore we're not disappointed. And so Monica is this truth teller. I say it like it is. I sand in it. But she is secretly has had this account that has, you know, rattled these women for years.

So it's actually a mass hypocrisy that's happening with her right now. So basically, all this stuff starts popping up on screen, which is the evidence that Heather got, presumably, from Tunisia. And can you please explain some of this because I was confused by a little bit of this evidence? Well, she says she got screenshots, text messages,

audio recordings, videos, photos, DMs, all this evidence exposing Monica and she was devastated, but she still needed to make sure it was ironclad, so she reached out to her friend and gave them everything. Now, when she said this, do you think she met in the FBI? Because her dad was FBI, Heather's dad. You know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Maybe, I'm sure it was, well, maybe she made friends with some of the Homeland Security people who dropped by her lab that one time, that's B-lab. Maybe some of them they arrested Jen and then they were like, you know, by the way, can you let us know a little bit more about your spa packages? Thanks. And so what stuff were you confused? So they put up on screen when she talked about that, her phone was flooded with screenshots, the text messages, et cetera, from Tanisha.

One thing that they put up on screen for a long time was something that said, at Heather Gay, am I a thief or are you a bad mom? And then Monica had a text that's saying, bitch, we're in holiday. What's Heather's address? We just want to see it. So what did that stuff mean? I didn't, I didn't understand it. Oh, I have no idea. I'm reading it right now. It's too much, it's too much for me to put

together. Okay, I'll just assume it's on the... It's just, they just put up a lot of stuff that you can't really, I mean, basically they show a text where there are three people, but it looks like it's Tanisha and Monica, I guess it's just establishing that they were friends. Or maybe that's Monica's text. But it says Monica trying to get Heather's address from Tanisha trying to like use that

information. Well, this whole text starts with Tanisha saying, low key, cry face, cry face, cry face. And then Monica writes back, dead face, dead face, dead face. And she says, T and I are on our way. Ha, ha, ha. We are going out in SLC next week. And then someone says, let's do it. Oh, I wish y'all were here.

Cry face, cry face. Bitch, we're on holiday. What's Heather's address? We just want to see it oh maybe she just wanted to see Heather's house or something I guess either way showing that she was like definitely coming from fan perspective not fellow housewife perspective so Whitney Whitney now chimes in that account and a nila nila nila nila did he how nila hill it was any hill that it us another how do you say And Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile,

Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, Nile, that was Monica that recorded them. All of those audio recordings and behind-the-scenes secrets, things that have hurt and affected our lives that we fought over for three years were all posted, curated, and spread by her. So she's saying, I'm gonna confront her dinner tonight tonight and I want you guys to back me up,

Amanda's like, I'm freaking out. This thing is going too fast. You want to find crashing the something again. Meredith, you're not on a vest bar. You're standing on the ground. Oh, thank God. It was scary there for a minute. I felt like I was crashing into a three inch snow bank.

No, your head just keeps bubbling like you're going 50 miles an hour, but you're standing. I don't think, no. And there it is. Marrow's hair is in her face. And it's like her fake lashes have like clamped onto her hair and like won't let go.

And it's blowing and everyone's hair is in their face and they're all crying and all these lashes are fluttering. It is just like this amazing look. So now we go back to the table and Monica's just watching Heather because Heather's in the middle of her thing. And Heather's like, I just want to know who you really are. Who you really are. It's a cyber bully internet troll reality Monty.

And Monica has no reaction. She just kind of blinks at her. And then it's a big long pause. And then we get a boom. Monica's just saying, Hi, my name is Heather. You are reality vantes. No. and Heather goes, you are an internet troll. You are cyber bully. You have been tweeting and undermining and bullying all of us for four years. You are reality vantes, and I have the facts to prove it. I have the text from your phone number saying,

I am reality vantes. I am applying to be friends with these girls. Do you want to see the receipts? And she was like, yeah, I would love to see those because that's not true. So what did that mean? Your reality vantes, I have the facts to prove it and I have text from your phone number saying, I'm reality vantes and I'm applying to be friends with these girls. So it sounds like you texted Tanisha that probably like, oh my God, is this hilarious?

I'm reality vantes and I'm applying to actually be with these girls. Can you imagine? Oh, okay. Okay. So Heather's like,es and I'm flying to actually be with these girls. Can you imagine? Oh, okay. Okay. So Heather's like, you want to see the receipt? She goes, yes. And she goes, oh my gosh. This is how you know I'm telling the truth.

I have your perfect formula. Receipts, proof, timeline, screen shots, fucking everything to prove that you're a bully. I'm a troll. I need you to knock the zirr. Pity up the ear. I need you. I need you. For the way you're treating us,

everything on one of us has woken up in fear of the shit that you would pose. Okay, okay. I'm Monica's like, that was never my account. So Monica's trying to lie right now, which is interesting. And Heather's like, you are done. And then Monica just kind of rolls her eyes

and then works out a mascara, Pogger. Look at mascara, eye Bugger. She's like, this was. Now what? This was so good. I was like, when Heather was riling off that list, proof, timeline, screenshots, I was like pressed up against my couch.

I was like the guy in the max L commercials with the TV or like the sound, like blowing his hair back. I was like, oh, this is so good. So then Heather goes, you are. This is my favorite part. It look Monica's doing her mascara bugger. And she's not really reacting because she's trying to figure out. So the hot choir decides to just go into overdrive and they start doing

Latin hauses. I've had. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I'll be loaded like I know Like we're really are you giving us full on Pope pause right now stop over there Tapper clackle choir so That is bullshit that was never my fucking account and I think you weren't done you are reality vantes I know you're reality vantes and Monica's that's not true entirely I know your reality Von T's and Monica's that's not true entirely I was like oh What are you men and Tyler? Well that means it's part true Lisa and she goes oh my god Lisa and now they just have their guns.

You think you can sit at our table and have a celebrate your birthday and then Monica fakes smokes. Did you catch that? She goes, pfft. Pfft. Pfft.

I mean. And then Whitney moves your chair away. Whitney is like, I'm moving to a different side of the Bermuda triangle right now. So Monica's like, you're not even gonna see the one I have to say. Pfft. And Heather's like, you're not even gonna see what I have to say.

And Heather's like, you infiltrated this friend group. You sought out Gen Shaw on social media and then you worked for her under the name Monica Valor and then you got caught on security footage in Meredith's store, which is when Marillo stole the clutch, which of course they picked up Marillo's name. It's Monica Fowler though, just by the way. Oh, so she's like, yeah. I was like, that's a new name. I haven't heard of Fowler. The Lord. She's spamming herself after Fabrics.

And then you showed up as Monica Pleda. And you tried to get free Botox again. And then Monica interlocked, walked into our lives. I will never trust Monica Corder-Roy from the fucking library. So, yeah, she was like, and then there's security footage in my store. And Monica said, that wasn't me, I didn't fucking steal shit.

And then this is when Marilo stole the clutch. And she goes, that wasn't me. So she goes, so this is Monica again twisting stuff. So she goes, when Marilo stole the clutch. Cause no, that wasn't me, I didn again twisting stuff. So she goes when Marilo stole the clutch. Cause no, that wasn't me. I didn't steal anything.

And she goes, it was you, you were blocking yourself from the camera and you had a different name. And she's, what are you talking about? I didn't steal anything. It's like no one's accusing you of stealing, but nice try. Let's let me how you start getting onto people's little things, right?

Like, you're lying because I didn't steal. Nobody accused you of that, Madame. And this activates Meredith. You were at my store, man, okay? And it's on my security full time. Yeah. Oh my God. And then when we see the security footage,

it is so, what do you call it when you're like, government witness? He's throwing papers, he's so, it do you call it when you're like government witness? He's throwing papers. He's so, it's so government witness. It's just like this terrible blonde extension. Like you see all the tracks, the steps of the tracks in the back of the head. Monica kind of trying to hide from,

I mean, it is so funny. And she looks right at the camera. I mean, I still from you. It's, the security footage gave me chills. I was like, oh my god, I mean, it is so funny. And she looks right at the camera. I can't be no steal from you. It's the security footage gave me chills. I was like, oh my God, I cannot believe this. And Meredith goes, I'm mad accusing you of stealing, but you said, this is the first time I have ever been here. And so then two months earlier, Monica and Meredith

bootie going, oh my God, girl, this is so cute. I've never been here. Oh my gosh, never been here before ever so cute. I've never been here. Oh my gosh, never been here before, ever. Never been here, never been here, never been here. Oh, never been here, never been here. And I had this, like you are a fraud, a liar, I am a fraud.

And I'm saying, okay, having, and Lisa's yelling, and you were doing drive buys at Gen Charles House. So, I feel like not the strongest evidence brought forward by Lisa. I mean, she did do dry buys, but I feel like there's a lot of good stuff they're working with, and I feel like Lisa just wants to join in, but I feel like Lisa entering in,

you did dry buys at Gen Charles House, just not as strong. I don't feel like that was pretty much public that she did that. When was it public? what do you mean? Didn't Monica have videos of her being like, look at me doing a drive by? Oh no, I don't remember that. Oh, I definitely saw one,

but maybe that came out after the fact. Oh, I was one of those last night. I saw one with this old drive by thing. It was her, like she has like a little, she's like, looks like Claire Danes in Homeland. She has like a little scarf around her head and she's like Oh my god girl. I'm like driving my Jans house right now girl. And some Monica yelling at her. I don't have to do a drive by I was with her the whole time you dumb bitch. I actually knew her. And some Lisa and her yelling at

each other who's a dumb bitch. You know, you're dumb bitch. Don don't come in you dumb bitch. I don't want to hear you fucking mouth again You don't call me a dumb bitch. Ha ha And so Monica's like when you don't you don't get to tell me to be quiet your mother fucking piece of shit It's another just cursing at each other and screaming and Monica's like you want to talk about it dumb bitch And Lisa the killer dumb bitch you got caught doing like, you're dumb bitch. You got a cut doing a drive by. And you had a cyber bully account while you're working for a fucking fat line. You're a fucking dumb bitch.

You're a fucking dumb bitch, you're the fuck up. Modical. So now Lisa stands up and she's yelling dumb bitch. They're just yelling dumb bitch at each other and she's production. Oh my god. Running in the back. Production is freaking out in the back.

Like, oh my God, do we stop? There's like some blonde girl who's like, we have to stop this. There only just no deb. It's like, we have to stop this. It's gonna get violent. And then Jack's like, you are not stopping anything, Deb, you stay in here right now.

If that sliding glass door moves, Deb, you're fucking back to fucking Southern hospitality. She's like, no, we have to stop it. Monica, the bottom line is, who do we fucking believe right now? Because you trawled every one of us. And Monica's like, you guys are not listening. So Monica tells us. Monica, Vontice was never just one person.

It wasn't just me. There were several other humans involved, but bottom line, our mission was to take down Jen. The other women were just collateral damage. What are we watching here? This was, I was like, this felt like it was they took it out of revenge or something. It wasn't just one person. There's a shadow conspiracy in the other woman, a collateral damage.

I'm like, what? It was very pretty. You were right. No, we're supposed to say we were like, well, right or eight is Mona. Well, not really. Okay. It's not really Mona. Pretty network for say it was like well, is Mona? Well, not really, okay. It's not really Mona.

A could be a lot of different people. It's like it sees in 12. Can we please disagree? It's somewhat different every fucking year. You know, Jenny is probably, Jenny from season two was probably, I'd be like, I was a victim of reality of aunties shut up Jenny.

No one wants to hear from you. So now from what I could gather, Monica's again, not lying. Like look, here's the thing. Yes, of course all this is hideous. I think in general Monica's iffy, because of her sound. I think she's been great casting, but as a person, definitely iffy. But from what I can tell and from what I can remember, all that's true. I mean, this account was just attacking Jen.

I mean, it's to the point where it's like you really don't want to piss off Monica. Because if she worked for Jen, then Jen did something to piss her off and now look what she does. She makes a whole Instagram account that does nothing but fucking comfort this woman every day. I mean, it's like obsessed and crazy. I think of anything, that's the creepiest thing about it. That it's like obsessed and crazy. And she's like some crazy obsessed fan

who eventually made it onto the show. But I couldn't really find vile stuff that she was saying about everybody. I mean, she said the thing about Whitney, like Whitney is a swinger, which I've heard that a million times, maybe it originated there and that's why I've heard it. She mentioned literally swings from poles, that's all she meant. And then what's the other stuff that's so terrible that she said?

I couldn't find it. I didn't do the research. I just was, but I felt like it was still a betrayal of trust to be like, oh, you had a trolling account and you posted nasty stuff about us. And now here you are, actually, like your friend. Like that is a huge friendship violation. So Monica's like, Monica's like, I never talked shit about you.

Like none of that shit, none of that shit none of that shit So Angie who's been sitting there the entire time like what is happening? Oh, Oh, Pa Suddenly she just activates and she goes don't do that shit don't do that shit talk talk. She does this thing with her I guess she's emigrating her because Monica goes I never talked about you She was like shaking her finger wagging it up in the air. She's, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, watch yourself. Watch yourself, bitch. So she's like, you've talked shit about everyone and Angie's like, no, you watch yourself.

You talk shit about everybody here. She's like, Angie, I'm not even kidding right now. Let's talk about your involvement. And Angie's like, I did not do a quick shot. And she's like, yes, you did. If you want to talk about how you're involved in reality, bond, peace, let's go there then. And Angie's like, how was I did. You wanna talk about how you're in bomb and reality bomb please, let's go there there. And Angie's like, how was I involved?

Laughing at your stories? And then we see like a wall of Angie like responding to reality bomb. And she's like, ha, laugh emoji, laugh emoji, dead emoji, dead emoji, oh my god, NGK, she, I'm NGH, she is so desperate. Oh my God. Ha! I'm so funny. And so Monica's like, Oh my God, you swam in a ridiculous,

like, oh my God, I'm so shocked. Feelin' like I'm teens. I mean, it's just so awful. Banshtown act like every single one of you wasn't constantly watching and damning that page. I mean, so what? What's your point? That's still terrible.

Yeah. And this is so, Monica, this is like so, Monica and this type of person, who's like, you catch them doing the worst thing and they're like, oh my God, why are you being so over-dramatic? Yeah, you secretly liked it. So, Monica, so, so Monica's like,

at this point, Angie has stood up and so Monica's like, sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. And just don't fucking talk about me I didn't do shit on that Hey age and Monica's like go pay the IRS bitch I'm rich That's an angry picture and then she picks up a bouquet. That was my favorite part was an Angie's look bitch I'm rich and then she picks up a bouquet. That was my favorite part. It was an edge. And she's like, look, bitch, I'm rich. And then she picks up a bouquet, sort of threateningly, like a central piece.

She goes, bitch, I'm current. I'm current, bitch. I'm current. It's fun, current. And she picks up to see you sing the flowers and Monica's like, okay, go ahead and throw the flowers in. She's like, oh, well, still, I'm current. I'm just gonna put some back down on the table.

Like, what a bike I'm going to throw, bouquet. This bizarre threat, like, I'm holding a center'm just gonna put some back down on the table. Like, what am I gonna throw, okay? This bizarre threat, like, I'm holding a centerpiece. It may not be Greek, but it has the power of... Fucking hell, that's... ...dance. ...and you're picking up the centerpiece and then putting it down gingerly. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha funniest idol threat. And by she was like holding it to the side too, like she's just like presenting it. Like not only am I angry at you, but I am selling centerpieces now for $39.99.

Call now. But also Monica who didn't pay her beauty lab bill is being sued by 21 different people for non-payment and had her car taken back because she wasn't paying her rent or whatever on the car. It's like, go pay the IRS and go pay the IRS. Like how dare you poor, say me, ma'am.

So then Monica goes, I will not be poor, say him to buy a poor, yes. So Monica says she's being completely honest and when he goes, but you're not being completely honest because you ran the trollocut that attacked me for years because I didn't do that with me. I don't know what to for years. Because I didn't do that with me.

I don't know what to tell you, but I didn't do that. And so now she says it wasn't ever my account. It was fucking Tanisha's account. That's whose account it was. So now she's trying to completely throw the blame. Which, by the way, is fair, because that's what Tanisha did first. They were obviously doing this both together.

And Tanisha tried to get out of it by blaming Monica. And now Monica's doing the same thing. So it means like, well, you know, you accused your best friend of doing the account, but then you're still sitting here with us. And that's supposedly your best friend. That's fucked up. And she's like, but I didn't started it with Tanisha.

So Meredith goes, what? Man, you know, and when that hold on, there's a yellow light, I am slowing down. What about account? You're not driving, please. You're not on the best spot, Meredith. I have a very important question. What is the real difference between yield and stop?

Don't you kind of stop for both of them like why do we have two different versions? And one is caution, the same color is healed. How does anybody not quit? So Marath is like, what did you do in that account? Why don't you tell us and Heather goes, yeah, tell us what you did on reality vantes. It's a fair question since it bullied all of us for four years and when he goes yeah you just said that you partially ran the account yeah and tell us since you're such a truth-seeker honesty et cetera I didn't do that shit I didn't do that shit

well why don't you tell us what you do with the account tell us right now so now we get a whole new song it's like and then it goes to like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's like a cartoon. It just keeps changing the score. So Monica goes, okay, and then we get a new song. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. I'm on a, because like, some of them videos that I took of Jen

that my friend told me to record of her, some of those are posted on there. Okay, so these are where there's video recording of Jen abusing the designer, Cohen. Right, right. The famous, famous video. Yes, she's just losing her shit at Cohen and basically abusing her while Coach Shah just sit there dumbfounded.

Right. And apparently it was Monica who took these videos and Monica who released them. Don't, don't, don't. So then Lisa goes, what are you going to do? Video all of us? I posted online, which I'm glad I'm mad that she said that, because I wanted to hear Monica explain what she did with the video, but by doing this,

this just sends Monica into this derail as the whole thing. So we never get really any more details after that. Yeah, so then of course it goes, it devolves into a typical Monica argument, which is you're so stupid. Fuck you, you dumb old fucking piece of shit. Rubber leather Donald Trump hand. Shut the fuck up. Donald Trump hand. Donald Trump hand.

Hello, I, A, L, O, L, and B, you're most bring chicken man. Stop it. Yeah, shameing everybody. Just stop it, okay? The one thing you can always count on if you're lucky is getting older. I know, she always goes, she always goes the old thing. You're a ugly male. And she's not gonna have much longer

that to be able to do that. So Lisa, like, well, I don't want someone around me, that's gonna video me and post that online. Oh! Yeah, so she's like, I haven't lied to you, which is more than any of you have ever done about your dark-ass little secrets. And when he goes, there are no dark-lid little secrets. Clearly, here's a one with the secret. You've been running a count that's exploited by the China for years!

Monica's like, I didn't do shit. I'm tani-sha-started the account. Blank ran the account. Blank ran wrap did this to the account and it was all these people so you can bring it on me If you want but I did nothing it's like that end of a peri Mason episode She's basically like I didn't say shoot about anyone else except for Jen like she was basically the Jen account specialists You know like it was like oh we have some good shit. We have we had a lot of I lot of good story out there about Meredith Marks. Like, yeah, sorry, that's not my department. I'm Gen Shaw. So she's like, 100%. I was like, did Gen Shaw?

And I will own that to the grave because that little horse, one of the worst humans I ever met in my life. So Monica says, no, I don't think like Riyadh Yvonne cheese is like really that bad of a thing girl. Like, I think scamming elderly people out of tens of millions of dollars is a bad thing, but I think having a fucking burner page and Instagram account to expose someone and their

abuse is not a bad thing. I just think that's telling the truth girl. And now I'll see this is where she's winning. And I have to say, you can't bring going against Jen Shaw up as somebody's bad quality and expect to win in this, in a public relations kind of a way. You just can't do it. I mean, I get the whole like Monica's

lied to us this whole time. She's been a fan of this person this whole time, but you guys already knew that. She was a freaking assistant of Gen Shaw's that's been on the show. Like none of that's this huge of a surprise. And from what we can tell, from even all the stuff that they've put up

on the show, all the evidence that this lady posted on her stupid blog or whatever, all it's doing is calling out Jen Shaw, who's one of the worst people to ever be on television. So you can't, they're putting themselves in the position of like now we're mad at you because we're standing up for Jen, which is horrible. Like that's just gonna make the audience

completely turn against you. It's like it turned, it went from like one of the greatest move to you're losing this. I felt like it's an election night and I'm standing there watching the numbers come in and I'm like, oh no. Well, there's two things. We're not winning the East Coast or the West Coast starting to come in or whatever it is. The East Coast is starting to come in or whatever it is. The East Coast is starting to come in.

I mean, Monica is smart for reminding everyone that these women sort of like went to bat for Gen Shaw when Gen Shaw had blatantly, was blatantly a criminal and everyone knew she was a criminal and the writing was on the wall. And that like an Instagram account is really doesn't even pal comparison to like wide-scale fraud. Yes. is really doesn't even pal comparison to like wide-scale fraud. Yes, but I think the issue is where I think the women got off with their messaging was that they should have been like, you had an account where you were like shit-talking us for years and you didn't even mention that.

Like, how do you not mention that? Like, that's so deceptive. Right. That's what I'm saying. This is the way they're playing this. The politics are turning very quickly. Right. Because they're because right because it's the message then became about like you're what you're doing was terrible. Not like no, the way you were deceiving us was terrible. So, um, you know, Mara's like, man, and for three months, you sat here with us and not told us the truth.

And Lisa is like, do you understand it's about deception? You fucking deceived all of us. So then Heather goes into a monologue and she's like, there's something you missed in this group. We're friends. Just for jazz. And we've been through, oh so then this is where Heather goes through her, you're basically Jen Shaw.

Okay. She basically goes into her, you're basically Jen Shaw monologue, where she's like, we've been through this before with Jen. Every day we would wake up afraid that a lie would be posted and told the spread and exploited and exploited and exploited and We were in it with her and we're the type of girls that writer die Like what is your argument? The writer dies a girl. It's not a stop

Worse she goes and the way you were made no sense But how you acted was strangely familiar. And the way that we were tortured, I ate shit every day for Gen Shaw, and I lied to protect her. I did whatever it took. I went on a book tour and defended her for the fact that she gave me a black eye. It's like, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, just for me thought all the mysteries had come out. It was a last second mystery,

but of course, for those of us who had seen people post on Instagram being like, hey, we better find out about that black guy. As soon as he had their starts teeing it up, I was like, oh, she's gonna say it, but it still was exciting. And I was like, oh my God. Like, it was like the twist on the twist.

Like, we already thought we had our big twist, but then there was a late twist as well. So everyone was like, let's go whoa whoa Michael's like well I'm glad you finally told the truth for once good for you and see I had there's like I had to write hard for her and I had to lie for her and we're not gonna do that again with you okay we had three years of domestic vacations okay and now we're finally in international waters and you're gonna try to drag us back

to go into Tucson for our next vacay? Absolutely not. I will not do this again, Monica Fowler. Pack your bags and go. And then she sits down and Monica's like, mm, okay. And then she just kind of gets up and walks. She realizes she's done, right?

So she walks off and she tells us like, you know, I'm more than anyone know that nothing stays in the dark and everything always comes to the light. And I knew this information would come out. Even gossip girl couldn't stay gossip girl forever. But why don't you get it? Well, I mean, gossip girl did make it like 10 seasons or some sort. Like how long have gossip girl? I mean, gossip girl made it a long time Monica.

I will say this. I'm have gossip girl? I mean gossip girl made it a long time Monica. I will say that I fail. I'm the gossip girl. By the time gossip girl was unveiled, the show had really declined in quality and the show is just booming right now. So this show's already like many, many steps ahead of gossip girl. So, but if you know that it's gonna come out

then you should have gone ahead of the story Monica because this was actually very manageable. You would have taken some hits. You would have cried, blamed it all on Gen Shaw, group hugs, talk about growth, move on, et cetera. Well, there's a couple of problems here. One, this Heather monologue about being victimized by Gen Shaw, but then writing for her, when there's still clips of her being on watch what happened, saying like, yeah, well, I mean,

I already knew that Gen's business was shady, so why would I not be her friend over it? I mean, I guess that Heather will use that to be like, victim me like, oh, I've been abused. And this is all, this is like a beauty, someone who's been abused to behavior, right? That you're just so afraid that you do whatever that person says. Or as you always say in these recaps, the alpha, you're such an alpha. You know. Do I say that? Yeah, we used that with like the running joke of Heather. Oh yeah, Heather, old shirt.

She's like, oh my god, just big dogs. Big, me here with all these alphas. Big, with big dogs. Big dogs, yeah. I, listen, I believe, yeah, I mean, there's definitely a certain sense of like, you know, maybe leaning into like, I was the victim of Gen Shaw,

but I also believe that there was some strange codependency in that relationship. And you know, like, you know, it was literally the victim of Gen Shaw. I mean, everybody was terrified of Gen Shaw. I think that they realized, I think that they were like, you know what, she's going to jail, we know she's going to jail. Let's put up with her shit because then once she's in jail We can be free of her and now they're free of her and now that they are free of her

They're like, oh my god. Life is so much better and we should have done this a long time ago and now they're like We're not we're not letting in another jam right So then Now we get our end of the season stuff, which is just barely tacked on, because this was so full, I was like, how are they gonna do the ending things?

So by the way, Monica walks off, the music is now very sad, like look at the devastation that has been wrought, and Heather starts to sob at the table, and then Angie's consoling her and Meredith is standing above, and then Whitney starts to sob, it's just like dramatic thing. Everyone's posting a photo of the women at the table and then Angie's consoling her and Meredith is standing above and then Whitney starts to sob. It's this dramatic thing. Everyone's posting a photo of the women at the table and putting it all over Twitter and me getting it pretending it should be

in the Louvre because it is just like perfectly shot and framed, etc. So we learned Monica, I'm sorry, Heather has been relishing her time with all three daughters and enjoying conversations about life, love, but definitely not sex. Do you want me to do the ball? I wrote them all down. I can just go through the ball. Yeah, I'm gonna take screenshots. Whitney continues to navigate the bumpy road

of marriage work and family. With Bobby as her show for, I'm like, I still don't at least support that. I feel like that's still dangerous. Still bad. Okay, you cannot give a child a car. I don't care if it's a golf cart. Bobby, it's not legal.

And especially once we've seen, we know that Bobby is a soda alcoholic. We've seen Bobby at the soda machine. We've seen what it does to her. It was one of my favorite child scenes ever where Bobby got soda drunk at her birthday part. I was, she was like, yeah, tell me what to do. I'm 13 now.

Next one is after jacking off at the mission training center, I'm sorry, after sending Jack off to the mission training center, Lisa has kept herself busy with her new favorite hobby, Henry. So that's so sad. That's sad. Yeah, Henry's finally getting attention. I know. And then Angie and Sean have recommitted to working on their marriage, starting with more date nights and a loan time,

Electra now sleeps in her own bed most of the time. And then after a rough winter with her, I don't know, with with her friends and four unbearable days without a bath tub, Meredith went home, and immediately upgraded to a Jacuzzi and her rantle. We're not a homeowner. So then the producer is like take me back to the final dinner when the women asked you to leave Monica and that's when we get the Zelda Tower puzzle dong, the Shrine dong. And Monica's like there is so much more to sing but I knew I wasn't gonna be G-E-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E-R-W-E- I love Monica giving a promo for her own next interview session. Next time on Monica, I'll have the details.

And she is very gentle. I mean, they show the reunion where she shows up with a burn book from Mean Girls. Yeah, and they all go, oh God. And her little, her little code is that she still is not spoken with the other woman or her mother since Bermuda. So yeah, we're gonna, reunion's gonna be out of control. I think I can't wait to find out what the ratings are gonna,

what the ratings were for last night and what the ratings are gonna be for the reunion because I think it's gonna be literally out of control. Well, look, this has given us so much. I really am not in the place to ask for anything, but I will request that Linda moderates this reunion. Please. Please bring Linda to the reunion.

Mary's going to be at the reunion, so there's that. Yeah. Well, it's going to be amazing. We've got still a month left of this show. Very excited. What an episode. Wow, thank you, Brofs. Thank you for having us.

This recap was so long, I'm surprised the reunion hasn't started to air already. So thanks everyone for listening. And we have more recaps to come this week, all the big shows. So stick around for that and we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye everyone! Bye!

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