Watch What Crappens - #2286 Crappy Hour Live 1/8/24- Monica’s RHOSLC Timeline Mysteries

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

It’s a very mysteries somewhat solved-ish live sesh when we search for timeline truths in the Monica Fowler/Darnell/Garcia Real Housewives of Salt Lake City/RealityVonTease scandal. Join us with your tinfol hats and your TikTok sleuthing, we’re going in! For links to watch this recap as a Crappens On Demand Video, hear our Patreon bonuses, or to buy tickets for The 2024 Golden Crappies Live From The Palace Theater in Los Angeles Feb 17th, visit watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Oh my goodness. It has been a big day for us. It's been a huge day. Do you mind if I just do this? You know I want to do it. I'm just going to do it right now. If you're watching this, chance are you probably already found out, but we announced the dates and the details of the Golden Crappies and they're going to be on February 17th here in LA

again. And the tickets are already on sale for our Patreon supporters and that they're gonna be on sale until 10 PM tomorrow. Then we have, they go on sale for everyone. Everyone at 10 AM on Wednesday, 10 AM Los Angeles time, Pacific time. We got clarity on that. So everyone please come.

It's gonna be so fun. We're gonna have a great time. This got clarity on that. So everyone, please come. It's going to be so fun. We're going to have a great time. This is such a year. This has been such a year. It's been such a year on Bravo. Like we have to all gather and give out some awards. Like this is the, this is, listen, we've been doing it for years and years. It's going to be a blast, right, Ronnie? It's going to be, it's been, it's been an incredible year, you know, and it's, it's so fun doing award shows and stuff like at the beginning of the year where you really reflect on what God has given you. And the Bravo Gods have given us so many good things. Today we spoke to the Bravo Bros, our new Brothers.

Yeah, Bravo Bros. And the Bravo Bros. And I've been calling them Bravo Bros for years because I just don't notice letters. But it was really good talking to them. Go check that out. Bravo bros for years because I just don't notice letters, but it was really good talking to them. Go check that out. And what else do we have? You know, people are asking,

we've got a lot of questions about whether or not there's going to be a virtual option this year for the crappies if they can stream it. We honestly don't know just yet. And we have to talk with, we have to talk with our people. You know, we've had the same. If it gets organized properly, we will see time will tell, we have faith.

Yeah, I hope we will be able to, we've used the same partner for the past two years to stream the crappies. So I'm really hoping that, that we can do it for a third year in a row, but, you know, we got to have that conversation. So, but we'll try, but we're going to try. So this is a huge show. We've only got an hour and the last 15 is spent talking to you guys and taking your questions. Okay. A few things. We are the main part of this episode is going to be a timeline for real housewives

of Salt Lake City, Monica, Fowler, Garcia, Darnel, Caram, whatever, whatever names we're gonna find today, we have a full timeline because guess what? I am obsessed with, you know, all putting stuff together in mysteries and stuff like that. And I have been looking for a damn timeline and I've not been able to find one. So I ended up just obsessing over it and putting it together the past couple of days with a bunch of sleuths from TikTok, God TikTok, you know I think you might catch on. And Cessie from the Bravo Docket who's also just a gift from above, love you Cess. Thank you for being such a good friend and such a crazy person who loves looking stuff up. But first, I can't say obsessed style

with that sassy, yeah, it's going on. I'm obsessed, yeah, I'm obsessed. What do you want to talk about first though, Ben, before we get to that, there's one main other thing that's happened. Well, okay, well, I mean, I was gonna say that anyway, but I liked the illusion of lead-a-late have choice here So basically, you know, you can't have a major bravo scandal without Tamra trying to have a scandal too

And by the way mark my words we were talking to the bravo bros earlier today like about is this is is everything that happened with reality Vante is is this gonna be the new future for Bravo shows and season finale? Is can they do this? And it's like, how do you repeat what happened with reality vantes? Well, I guarantee Tamer is gonna try it too. I guarantee Tamer is gonna hold on

to some piece of information that she will release at the season finale every single year for the rest of Real House, that's Orange County. But anyway, that's just a I am your divantez bitch. Rad if I'm bitch, bitch. So the big thing is the Trace Amigas are having some foundational issues. If there's any group that's...

Like, there's the only group, the only trio that's more unstable than the Trace Amigas was probably the Richard sisters. But the Trace Amigas, they are broken up in the middle. Oh God, I thought you were gonna start talking about the damn Richard sisters. I was like, I can't. I cannot talk about to do any little trauma right now. Okay, we've already got Monica.

No, by the way, everyone's saying I have a list today. I don't know what that's about. Maybe, do I get like a list? They're like Ben's list is back. I don't know, maybe I get excited. I'll allow everyone. It's by the way electronic. I think if it was a's list is back. I don't know, maybe I get excited. Hello everyone. It's by the way. I think electronic, I think if it was a real list.

By the way, this is my old list, everybody. I'm sure if it was like an actual physical list, but they wouldn't say that. I'm gonna be getting a list, by the way. By the way, I'm getting an official list, the reason why. I have, I don't think I even told you this, Ronnie. I'm gonna get like an invisible line situation starting this Friday.

I'm going to the dentist this Friday to pick up my trades Can we get up here cold first before we start the next trip to the doctor? Seriously, I'm just If there's something doctoral with you every fucking every single We something to I Want I'm done. I'm sick of it But once I will literally have things in my mouth for the next 10 months of my life So I will be like hover while I all, welcome to watch our problems.

I'm Joey from Southern Hospital Hall. I'll be Joey Marbles of Crappens. Okay. So let's get to this. So there's a fight. There's the basically Shannon and Vicki. It looks like they are going on tour the Tracer Megastore without Tamra because Shannon posted something that was like, come check it out. looks like they are going on tour the Trace Amiga store without Tamra because Shannon

posted something that was like, come check it out, Shannon Vicki, go tour your cross America. So that was the first thing that I noticed, I was like, wait a second, something is wrong with the Trace Amiga's. And it turns out they're all mad at Tamra and it all has to do with the swirling disaster that's brewing down there in Orange County with Alexis Bellino and John Janssen and now Tamersons are herself. Yes, apparently they're mad because Tamra befriended Alexis Bellino when Alexis Bellino started dating John Janssen. And so of course they felt like where's the loyalty?

Let me tell you loyalty is like paraben free Q tips. Very hard to find. Very what is paraben? Why did I say paraben free? I literally do. Well, it's a tax in that Dr. Moon. By the way, do you know what's really funny? Okay, I'm just saying something.

The doctor that I saw for my annual physical was named Dr. Moon. I just wanna say, as long as we talk about Dr. Stuff, I can't believe I didn't mention it, but I actually saw a Dr. Moon. So he's also been off at TAMRA. He's very furious with TAMRA. So the first thing I saw was from,

posted by Bravo and cocktails, you know you know, always, always dependable. Thank you guys over there. Vicki and Tamra and Followed each other. I'm devastated. And then Vicki, uh, uh, wrote back, actually she had followed me because I called her out on her loyalty. Dun, dun, dun, brotha breaking news posted. RIP trace of me, Gus, and then we started seeing advertisements for Shannon and Vicki live. Laugh, fun, gossip, sing. Taxines, not invited.

Yeah, you know, I think that in a way, like, Shannon and Vicki should be maybe a little happy about this, is probably a blessing to skies. I don't know how long those three white ladies could get away with wearing some brairos and just taking our cartoonish take of Mexican culture on the road without getting into some serious trouble. So like, it might actually be for the past. I think their audience does not care. They do not care. They have to say, yeah, they have to say.

Their audience is like, this is very authentic. This is a very authentic view inside the world of Mexico City. Cinco de Mayo. But basically my friend, my soulmate, my sister, my aunt, about all of this. And then once she told everybody off on the online, she said, I felt like I just took the biggest dump of my life, so refreshed, so relieved. You know what I'm saying?

So Tamra is just keeping it classy over there. So, we'll see what happens. I mean, Tamra always, I mean, gotta give her credit. She's never want to have complacency. She's like, gotta get those ratings up, scandals everywhere, gonna do what I can do. So, I don't know, Orange County is low-key brewing up, like there's something going on down there,

with Alexis Balino and John Jansson. This is messy. It's a messy situation down there that we're not paying attention to that much. But I'm excited, I thought last season was excellent. So, it's gonna be a good season next year. Yeah. Orange County will most likely be delivering a cat. B. Yatch. Even though they did not bring Taylor Armstrong back. I don't know if you guys have heard that my friends

are billion. Millionaire. With a B. Listen, I think that's Taylor will probably be back and we will see her, but she may not be an official friend of because to be an official I love you. Well, listen, I think that's how they will probably be back and we will see her, but she may not be an official friend of, because to be an official friend of as an actual position, like you actually have a photo that goes on the Bravo website,

I'm sure there's an actual, like in the contract, it entitles you probably to a certain amount of pay. So she probably will be there, but not as an a fish friend of, but maybe it likes his Balino. This will be, I mean, I'm really excited to see this mess really. When Alexa's Balino over break, when we're on break, she posted a photo of a ring that John Janssen gave her. And she's like, oh my God, the perfect thing. Thank you so much, Johnny, or something.

And she had it out like that. So it looked almost like an engagement ring. And you know, I was like, that was it wasn't an engagement ring. This is a promise ring. Okay. Listen, there are two things that I want. I want to let this back and I want her back on the news as an anchor. Okay, let's make this happen for next season. Yes. Okay, let's get into this timeline, shall we? Do your timeline. You worked so hard on it. You said I'm free to share with people. We'll do it together. Listen, and this is just compiling of a bunch of stuff

that other people have done. So everybody, thank you. Thanks for the reporting. Okay, I'm gonna just do it with a lot less accuracy with my friend, Ben, okay? And I just, so. And I wanna say one thing quickly, as we launch into this,

there is a question feature on Instagram Live. And so if you've got questions, the comments go by so quickly, but you can submit a question, a written question to us and we will take time to sort of look at the questions that have been submitted and we'll try to answer them on the way. Okay So here we go. Okay, so I'm confused with a lot of this Monica stuff. A lot of Goss came out about this after we had already recapped the finale.

There was the video of Monica and her mother screaming at each other in the house that Monica was recording presumably is evidence of what a monster her mother is, which by the way, don't need more because your mother is kind of a monster, but it's also more evidence of what an asshole Monica is. And just how that turns a backfire for me.

Just how toxic that wholeness is. There was that. There was leaked. Tanisha started leaking all of these voice memos that Monica had sent her. You know how you send your friend for this? This is instead of texting because you just can't fucking tie it down. I hate that, it makes me crazy.

So Tanisha saved every single one of those, which I think does go to prove the thirst, don't you think? I think Tanisha is getting off scot-free. Tanisha seems like a very guilty party and all this. She is definitely taking a victory lap. She is milking this, she's going on on social media and being like, okay, I'm going to make my official statement. And it's like, to me, you are nearly as messy as Monica right now.

Okay, let's get that straight. Well listen, thirst, no thirst. It's better to have a full fountain than just a soda. You know what I mean? You need all the different handles to pull, like Whitney's soda drunk daughter on Real House House assault like saying. Yeah, tell me what to do. I like that. I would never like that way to breathe that back. I like that. One of my favorite moments. Okay. So I've been confused. All that stuff has started coming up. But then I thought, well, who is like, when did they meet Monica? When was, you know, Ben, you had mentioned to me this

video of Monica stalking Jen, like literally videotaping herself in front of Jen's house. And there was a video that I saw after after you told me about it. I was so honored that, but I was so honored that I was able to introduce you to a piece of gossip instead of the other way around. I was offended at the internet. I was like, how dare you tell Ben before me? I know. Ben found out at fucking board game night.

Here I am scouring the internet. I hadn't even seen it. Also, I want everyone to really to heighten this entire experience. I want everyone to mentally start playing like some Philip Glass music in your head. It going, da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da Well, actually, I guess we can say, I'll save that for the end, where they met Monica, because I was shocked. And actually, that came from Marillo, and all I really had to do, Marillo, by the way, for those of you who are just following this stuff, newly, Marillo is Jen's assistant

who was accused of stealing the purse from Meredith's store. Okay, so that's what that name is. That's who that guy is. He's an important member of this. He's another thirst trap. A lot of thirst. So, so that's what that name is. That's who that guy is. He's an important member of this. He's another thirst trap. A lot of thirst. So which we love, you know, thank God. So don't quench it. So we are starting in 2019 December 10th

2019. This is all from an article from the Sun and it's because of this lawsuit that Heather filed against Monica as Beauty Lab because Monica didn't pay her Beauty Lab bills and all that stuff. So the proof that Beauty Lab and Laser has that Monica's full of shit about Monica's counter suit says that she got botched injections,

which is why she didn't pay her bills, okay? So the proof is that in 2019, the lab tech Reagan Brooks from Beauty Lab and Laser turned in her DMs from Monica, where Monica is saying, oh my God, I love these, these are amazing, I look amazing, oh my God, you made me look so amazing. And then text her multiple times after that saying how great her work was.

So the whole like I didn't like my work is kind of invalidated evidence-wise, so far evidence. So that's 2019. All we there, are we in 2019 together? We're in 2019. The wind is blowing. It's cold. There's, you know, it seems like the future is in front of us. There's no such thing as the coronavirus. It seems like the next few years, it's been years of the season. It's been years.

It's been years. It's been years. That weren't those the day, 2019, when Rod and I were on the same flight as unvaccinated children who got measles, and we had to be quarantined for a day. That is true. And that was pre-COVID too. We had to get blue mind.

What do they call that? The blue mind is a sale it somewhere. What do they call it? The quarantine does. We were quarantined. We were called by the Department of Health in December 2019. They're like, you're going to have to stay indoors for the weekend because you're on a flight with children

who are unvaccinated. And they had, you were exposed to measles, like military grade measles. So anyway, so that's what 2019 was, when measles was the scariest thing. Okay, we are gonna stick with this timeline, sir. Okay? I'm just trying to create an environment.

I'm trying to create, I'm trying to create, I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment.

I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. I'm trying to create an environment. Monica went for some injections and Ben almost got me as a teen. Measel injections is what Monica was, patient zero for coronavirus, you heard it here first. So she started. You find another way to take it back to going to a fucking doctor. I mean, you even bring the Monica

cause of a timeline about fucking measel. It's bad. Yeah, it's scary. Medicine. So, like, let me tell you something, everyone. This conspiracy goes all the way to the top. So, um, the reason that 2019 is important is because this is the first record we have of Monica contacting the group, which is under, I don't remember the name, I think, Fowler, but it was, um,

you know, kind of trying to make contact with Heather or whatever by going to her. And this is pre-television show, or at this point where they already auditioning to Bees Salt Lake City. I think they started, didn't this come out in 2020? So I think they just started or come out or something, and so she was like already kind of going up this tree. So then let's see, let me get past this physician stuff.

I really pasted a lot into there. Like I'm really close. In the file of the Salt Lake hosts. By the way, the Salt Lake City Medical Spa, wow, medical. Sounds like this is a medical issue. Bam. Bam's like by the way, my throat still hurts. Speak and get done. Actually, no, it doesn't. I'm so glad. I'm a medical issue. Van. Van's like, by the way, my throat still hurts. Speaking of the luckers.

Actually, no, it doesn't. I'm so glad. I'm a hashtag blessed. No, my throat doesn't hurt. I just stuffed. So then the next thing is September 9th, 2020. Okay, so this is almost a year later, is the next on the timeline.

And it is, the purse is stolen from Meredith Store, and that date comes from the camera store footage. The store camera footage, which we also online, which also Monica is facing away from the camera. We found out that that was Monica later, but Monica is there. September 13th, Marilo says, one of the first times that they hung out with Monica was at Mary the store, which is the one I just told you about. So that was like around this time, right, around September 9th. And Monica, we find out this was the biggest twist to me. How Monica came into this group was that the Shahs hired a handyman

to fix some stuff at their house. And they used some, I think it was a site, he said it's a site called Thumbtack or something like that. I guess it's like an Angie's list, where you look for workers or whatever. And Angie's list has a whole other meaning on Salt Lake City. Like that is where you get a Bacchlava. Yeah, Angie's list, couscous.

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I guess Monica probably saw that this was a Jen Shaw's house, the famous Jen Shaw, who she'd already gone to Heather's beauty lab or whatever. So Monica came along with a handyman on that job, and I guess befriend a Jen. Now, is that true? I don't know. This is according to Marillo, which I would assume would be telling Jen's side, right,

because he's still a team Jen from everything I gather. Wow, but I love that that's Monica's introduction is through the husband that she cheated on. Like that's amazing. Well, now through a site, like you really have to be careful. You know, they tell you of dangers of from using like task rabbit, which I don't believe, I use task rabbit all the time,

a guy from Glee put up my fan. So, but yeah, I've seen Saltburn. I've seen Saltburn, okay. So this is a real cause you've gotta be careful, everyone. You have to be careful with these sites and these school. Saltburn did not come from Craigslist Saltburn that was from oxygen. I mean from Oxford not from Frecken, Antislips. I'm telling you people You have to be careful of salt burners. Okay, and Monica is a salt burner. All right. I am telling you this right now be careful

careful As a salt burner, all right, I am telling you this right now. Be careful. Be careful. All right. So, um, okay. So supposedly they meet around this time. Monica starts hanging out with the group. She ends up at Meredith's store. Mariello allegedly takes a purse on accident or whatever that whole thing was. And okay.

So that's kind of when she started staying around. So that's like September 9th, ish 2020. November 11th, 2020, season one, premiered. I remember it well. We streamed it. And then, did we talk with Margaret Joseph's on our stream beforehand? I think she would like let it.

It was like our big stream. Let's make it about us. Great, remember when it premiered? Did she give you a cold, Margaret Jessus? Did you have to go talk to her? Do you remember when it premiered? And like, we got a psychic vision of Monica stealing something.

Oh, that was amazing. Okay, so the video of COA, the designer, being berated by Gen Shaw and abused, which is really traumatic to even watch. I don't know if you guys have watched that lately, but wow, it still packs a punch. So there was leaked, there was a camera placed in that office, which Marilo claims in one of those interviews that Monica was the one who installed those camera, who had those cameras installed into Gen's office

once she was working for Jen. So she automatically knew the passwords to those cameras, which is how she leaked them. I mean, this girl is so tricky. I mean, think about it. If that's true, that is really fucked up. Yeah, and all of this, obviously, before we get sued 10,000 times is allegedly, this is just shit I'm getting off the internet. So, you know, who knows?

You're just curating stuff from the internet and just putting it forward. It's like what Vicki would always say every time she gets caught spreading a rumor. I'm not spreading the rumor. I'm just telling you what the rumor is. Yeah. I didn't come up, no, she says,

I didn't come up with the rumor. I'm just talking about it. Yeah. It's okay to spread it. It's just not okay to come up with that. Like, I'm not a project, I'm not Graham Zero for this rumor. It's just not okay to come up with that like I'm not a project I'm not gram zero for this river. I'm just running the room or what do you want for me? Don't be mad at the person who gave you the cold be mad at the cold, I guess yeah, I forgot

I shouldn't say cold around you. Okay, so then So season one premieres November 11th. Now the video of Khoa getting abused was leaked in March 2021. But apparently according to Khoa in an interview on page six or something on page six that page six quoted, he says that that was actually filmed in 2020. So that's right around when Monica entered the scene.

So Monica enters the scene as a handyman's wife, gets a job with Shen, Gen, sorry, Shen, gets a job with Gen, immediately gets a camera and starts taping shit because Gen's a horrible person. So presumably, that's what she was doing. So it's pretty tricky there so far. Ma'am. Are we all caught up? is doing. So it's pretty tricky there so far. Ma'am. Are we all caught up? Yeah, we're caught up. So so Monica has infiltrated herself into Gen Shah's life via Angie's lists and or or thumbtack or whatever. It's called and now she set up cameras in her house, which is

honestly, most people's worst nightmares in the office. I'm her office, but you know, still. most people's worst nightmares in the office. That's not in the office, but you know, still. I am thirsty, talking of thirsty people, literally thirsting. Okay, so then let's see, so that was 2020, November of 2020. Okay, so then also in November of 2020,

well, what a surprise. Reality Von Tees II, which is the infamous Instagram account. We've all been talking about joins Instagram, okay? So that was November 2020, March 1st, 2021, Reality Vontese 2. It posts their first post, which is this leaked video of Kaua being abused. Right after that, on March 5th, Jen sends a cease and desist. The names on the cease and desist are Kaua, Monica Fowler, and SG, or S. Gonzales, which I heard from another TikTok account, someone named Savannah Gonzales, I don't really need to slander her. I don't know who she is, how she was involved. I'm assuming she was working for Jen for a while, but nobody really knows. Shotsquad, if you will. I believe there's a chart of the shot squad. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh,

Shaw Gonzalez, uh, what's her name? Savannah Gonzalez. So then on March 11th, Savannah Gonzalez. So then on March 11th, Tenisha has a post where she is doing Heather's hair. This is the first post I have heard about featuring Heather on Tenisha's Instagram. So that's March 11th, 2021. March 31st, Jenna's arrested, 2021 first, Jenna's arrested, spring 2021 ish during a live from shasha lay when they were moving out of shasha lay so this was before they right before they started shooting season two this is when monica was filming her stalking video

right outside was yes or one of them she was out there filming them moving okay fall of twenty twenty 2022, Monica was cast January and February, January to February 23. The current season has been filming. Also, I said, Sessie helps me, right? Sessie is like, I know this because I asked Lisa Barlow if she would be at the crabby's. So I love how we all mark things in our head, you know. Then Jen goes to prison in February.

June, this is a good one. June, 2023, reality vantes, now joins Twitter. They have a Twitter account starting. This is according to someone named Caitlin Marshall on TikTok. Caitlin Marshall on TikTok had a great video. And she had my favorite part of all of this timeline after August, okay, so after the season finishes shooting,

they're in Bermuda in August 2020. So reality, so reality Von Tees starts up the Twitter account while the season is happening. Yes, that's what you're trying to say. At the beginning of the summer, which means probably, if they, if the finale was shooting in August That means they probably were filming this around what June so Monica we know it already been posting all of this stuff To Instagram as she knew these people which we know

But then she started this Twitter account But she hadn't posted anything on the Twitter account yet if it's a way to know by the way No, so I don't believe that they were filming in August because Monica's birthday is June 1st. So the trip was around her birthday. So they were in Bermuda in June, which makes sense because the show made a big deal

about that like, you could see it's like summer. It's like one of the few shows where you really can tell the season's changing, but also significantly if reality Von T's joins Twitter in June 2023, that means it's probably on the heels of being outed, so she's probably like, fuck it. Well, you're, I don't know why I said that because also in this timeline, it says,

season wrapped in May, Twitter started the month after. Okay, so there you go. I'm just fucking up my own self. So you have to get to the point. So then in, yeah, you're smart. So then in August, I said that sarcastically, but I meant it. August ish in 2023.

Okay, I don't know why this says Permuda. I'm I'm a mistake. So August 14th 2023 Heather files her suit against Monica for not paying her beauty lab in laser. I thought this was all going on a lot before the season, but apparently none of this happened until after the season shot. And then September 5th, the season starts airing, September 13th, Monica files her counter suits. Okay, so then is Bravo Con November 3rd. November 20th, the reunion filmed, guess what else happened the day

that the reunion filmed according to Caitlin Marshall Stell, great TikTok lady. According to the same day that the reunion was filmed, the first tweet from reality Von Tees came out and it was a repost and it said, the way the rest of the cast will be kissing her ass next season and it's a picture of Monica. Monica basically went to the reunion and it was like, fuck you guys. Now I'm going to start trolling you openly, even though I've been outed on the show,

but nobody knows it yet in real life. So, man, talk about some gravita. Thank you. Well, thanks, Ronnie, for putting together that timeline. That is pretty wild that I still think it's wild that she's openly trolling them. And they all know it's her, but the public for like that one month window did not know, which is it's just pretty,

that is pretty amazing. But yeah, the whole backstory how she came into the group is, it's like, that's wild. It is absolutely wild. That's crazy. And if that is true that they met off this handyman's site or whatever, what luck for somebody who just loves housewives wanted to be on it and even went to get injections from beauty lab and laser to happen,

to have your husband to get that call. Like it just seems like a dream in a way, but I think it just goes to prove, oh, and by the way, Bravo and Blaze is on here as well. She said it's called Thumbtack, Bravo and Blaze. I didn't even mention you yet. Most of this came from you, the Bravo and Blaze is. Yeah, Bravo and Blaze is from.

And Jessica Blaze. Jessica Blaze, you are the one, I'm sorry, that's written at the end of my notes. You are the one who this Murillo interview is from. And also, go follow Bravo and Blaze just because she's amazing. I mean, if you don't, she also has a podcast. But she's been around forever. She posts great stuff.

She had this Murillo interview. And also, I heard through Cessi that you will be interviewing Murillo again tomorrow. So go listen to her, follow her, check out all of her stuff. And thank you for your service, Madame. Damn fine work. Wow. So Monica, now there's been all sorts of stuff that actually came out this weekend. We talked about it.

Sorry, Jenny Blay is. What is it? So one of the. For Blays, I'm done terrible. Ben, go ahead. I'm sorry. I won't interview. I won't interrupt you,

but I'm very rude to fuck up people's names, literally all day today. I just did it with Brafros to continue banning all shut up. That's all good. So in terms of the stuff that came out over the past weekend, the fallout of this whole thing, one thing by the way, Ronnie, you openly addressed this on our recap, and I didn't really know what you're talking about.

You're talking about Monica's credit cards. And I was like, well, you said that one of them was green and I was like, well, maybe it's an American, like a basic American Express. You're like, no, it's not that kind of green. We got a lot of people who messaged us and actually just was around that the cards that Monica used, the credit cards that she used were like chime cards,

or it was like chime, or the other one, she starts with a chime card, which is the green one, and it's declined, and then she acts like she unlocked the international security, and then she tries it again, but the second time she tries it is with a white credit card, and then someone posted a link to a photo of the white credit card, which is basically a debit card that you would give your child. It's like a real guard rails on card.

The point is, people are really kind of going wild about these credit cards because it shows that she has like bad credit or is bad with money. That is by the way a very human thing, like you're allowed to have bad credit and not be like an awful person. You can be a very good person. And a not a fine person.

And have bad credit, but it just sort of continued to flesh out this image of Monica being something of a grifter, right? Like that she's pretending like she was declined, but I was like, no, it's more like the green, the chime card is declined, and then you had to go to your, whatever the white card that I guess someone here just here said that Linda gave it to her,

or maybe they were just joking, that Linda gave it to her. But probably Joe. Someone here also just said production card, which I don't know that they're given money to like go shopping and stuff, but I mean, I don't know who knows. It's not a bad theory commenter. But I just, first of all, I love everyone's egoized and second of all, I just, I love like

the low level gossip that's coming around out of those, those credit cards. The other thing. Well, just the fact that they were trying, I mean, it's so obvious now that they were kind of trying to catch her, don't you think? That she's like, whoops, we just forgot our cards. Hmm, wonder if Monica has one. My theory was that they were trying to check out the last name or something on her cards or something.

I don't, but I guess they were just trying to catch her being broke, but that wouldn't be really a big secret because Monica has been very open about like, oh my god, I'm the poor one, that's kind of her thing, you know? Right, exactly. But yeah, so that's been like a thing. Some people are, some conspiracy theorists are saying

that Heather was trying to kind of like, you know, kind of fool, not fool, but like sort of, it was like a test, it was a monica test. I don't know, like see what would happen if Monica had to pay for something. I don't know if that's true or not, but it was really fun to think about it. It's also weird to think, like Heather had a really good idea

coming into this trip that Monica was up to something fishy. So when you watch it again, I rewatched the episode before the finale and I forgot, I forgot what Heather said, but like you can see Heather's just like, you can see Heather is setting up little traps for Monica, left and right. And it's kind of amazing. It's amazing to rewatch and see how this all plays out.

But the other, the master thing that we talked about was that. Well also thinking back, I'm sorry just to your point but thinking back how long has she been setting the traps because Heather's tricky to you know what I mean she's like a she's a veteran real housewife at this point like it's not like she's just some dummy and she the way that she's worded things on the show is like well I had I did kind to know this information about Monica, but it was just confirmed on the call.

Well, how long have you known? Because one thing I've learned is that Tanisha is not like a quiet little mouse who's not going to say anything. And that's your hairdresser. So how long have you known? How long have you kind of been stringing her along? It's like the fight in the van where she's like, I am so offended that you brought up my daughter's sexuality and trying to start this fight, but that didn't really catch

on because Monica just became so apologetic and it's like how long did Heather know? And another thing I was thinking the other day I was moving stuff around in my office because New Year's and that's what I do. And I had the box for Heather's book, Bad Mormon, because she sent a box to Bravo accounts, or whatever, like with the book. And then it had all these little gifts in it. And one of the gifts was Loub. It was like an all natural Loub. And I'm like, well, so you're obviously not,

I know that that was about her daughter, and that was part of the thing. But then the rest of that was like, I'm not comfortable talking about my sexuality. And we thought that was kind of weird because she's been so sex positive and open and stuff. And I was like, why is that weird? The other reason it was weird is because I got lubed and my gift box about more feminism. That's what it was. Rewatching that whole fight about sex positivity in the light of everything I felt like what was happening there was Heather saying, I am not going to talk about my

sex life to you because I'm onto you and I suspect that you have something to do with a gossip account and I'm not giving you details about my sex life that you can then pedal onto your gossip blog. That is what I actually feel like was really happening there. And I just want to clarify something. I want to correct something here. It's a minor thing, but I just know feel like was really happening there. And I just wanna clarify something, I wanna correct something here. It's a minor thing, but I just know it's the sort of thing that people will message me about.

The white credit card was the chime card, the green credit card was a green light allegedly, a green light card, which is green light, the debit card for kids. So anyway, just wanna say that. Not my damn kids, okay? Here's your debit card, please. How about that?

How about let's try that? And then I will give you exactly enough money. Half of it changed just to embarrass you until you get a damn job and get your own credit card. How about that? Children. So then another thing that has got people going is that Lisa Barlow tweeted something along the lines of,

what's he play all your cards? You're out. And then the next day, Monica removed R-H-O-S-L-C from her Instagram bio. But then some people said, yeah, but she never had it on there in the first place. Do you think there was something going on there? Do you think there was a hidden messages? Do you think that? Or do messages? Do you think that, or do you think that Monica ever had Salt Lake City in her bio and that you removed it?

I'm sure she would have had it in her bio. I mean, I don't know if she did or not, but I mean, come on. After all putting all this work into becoming a real housewives of Salt Lake City for Christ's sake, the woman showed up, it's a handyman, assistant to her husband to get on this show. I think that, of course, she would have it, but I mean, I don't really know. From what everything we've learned from the past, our past history is that people don't find out whether they're part of the next season until shooting is about to start, which is after the reunion. So I don't think anybody really knows. She seems to kind of have a burn the whole house down attitude Which would for I think most people be evidence that she might not be coming back

So she's like fuck it. I'm gonna capitalize on this But Monica's had to kind of burn it down attitude about everything Who knows is she's an unpredictable lady then very unpredictable She's an unpredictable lady then very unpredictable Then we have also the this video with Monica and her mom and Monica is spends this video screaming at her mom and her mom it was interesting because her mom is basically saying It's looked like this video happened after Greek Easter and her mom is saying Monica You know you you're an actress. You have to like do what you can do

to get into all the scenes. And you were yelling at her at Angie Innerhouse. You had a job to do. And she's like really mom. And she's like, like, shrill screaming. And screaming at her mom. And then she's like, and I fell down the stairs mother, leaving.

And you didn't even care. I didn't push you down the stairs. That's on you. I mean, this video, I mean, I have to, this video was fucking crazy and fantastic. I mean, Monica's in their house. First of all, it's extremely disturbing because you see a kid running by,

I mean, they're doing this in front of the kids, which I doubt is an uncommon experience. You see the grandma there. I think you an uncommon experience. You see the grandma there. I think you see the grandma. You see a little lady there. I think it was the grandma. But this whole fight, like you said, is the day after Greek Easter

and Monica's yelling at her mom, saying, you don't support me and the mom's like, Monica, I'm trying to tell you, you were an actress. Your whole point being on, you cannot not have people to film with. You have to have people want to shoot with you. You're in this woman's house,

you're screaming at these women, and she's saying, like, listen lady, I was going around there and trying to keep everybody calm because you worked hard to get on this fucking show, and you finally get on it, and now you're gonna make nobody want to shoot with you. Like, you're literally screaming at a woman's, she didn't say this part,

but you just went on national television and told everyone this woman's husband is gay and he's been fucking all these dudes in town, blah, blah, blah, and now you're going to them into her homes screaming and doing all of this stuff. And when we recap that episode, that's kind of what we said. I mean, that's definitely what I said.

I was like, listen, I get that your mom's like not being on your side, but, you know, if your child spills their mac and cheese all over the floor of a restaurant, the parent has to clean it up. That's my rule. And that's kind of how I looked at that scene. And as much of a monster as Linda is, I don't even care. Linda was right in that video.

I mean, if you're gonna be a momager, she was telling her the truth. She's like, listen, if you're gonna act and you're gonna be this character if you're gonna be a momager, she was telling her the truth. She was like, listen, if you're gonna act and you're gonna be this character, you're gonna be on this TV show, people need to film with you stupid. And Monica start, after she said the thing about falling down the stairs, that's on you. No one pushed you down the stairs.

Oh, first of all, I was squealing, horrified in my house when I saw that. I remember I texted you, breathlessly. You did, you did. You texted to me and then when I went to click on the link texted you breathlessly. How's that? You did, you texted to me, and then when I went to click on the link, it wasn't there, and it was a whole thing, but then you recorded it,

but luckily other people did too, and so it lives on in perpetuity. But yeah, you know, like ultimately, like Monica was the one losing her mind in that video, and like her mom was just, her mom was like chill. I'm not saying her mom is the same, but her mom was like, Monica, you have to think about this. You're an actress.

It's not on me that you fell off, fell down the stairs. And she's like, what? So then the reason why you know Monica lost is that Monica turned the entire argument then into what kind of mother finds out her daughter fell down a staircase and says that's on you. You don't even care.

Which means like you know it was like three steps to get out of that thing. And the fact that she turned that whole argument into like, however, mom was so uncaring about the stairs, I was like, that means you've lost the central argument because you tried to change the argument into something else. I'm not even sure what the main argument truly was, but I think whatever was, I think. I think saying I'm not supporting you,

I was supporting you by helping you, not act like a crazy person in this lady's house. That's how I took the argument. Now a lot of people I'm reading in the comments here, they're talking about like having a narcissistic parent and the abuse and turning the abuturning it, I get that, but you're also talking about someone who's putting her kids through fucking trauma here at the same time. Like I'm not invalidating what Monica might have gone through as a daughter with a mother like that, right? But I'm also not just saying you're off-Scott free because you went through trauma.

You're a 40-something-year-old person, and at some point we have to kind of be responsible for what we're putting our family through and our friends through. We can't just continue going through life saying, well, traumatized. So, like, no, you can still be wrong in a situation. You can still be valid. Your trauma and your feelings of being hurt and all of that are valid. I'm not taking that away from her saying she's making

anything up or that Linda's not a fucking monster. I'm just saying, it's not a free pass. Well, I, uh, well, yeah, and I tried to use that one for years, right? Ben, that pass. It's hard to watch. It's hard to watch, you know, Monica definitely has been traumatized and she has a lot of damage and I am very sympathetic to that. It's hard to watch also seeing how, seeing all this happen and imagining what sort of trauma she is now further

inflicting on her children. Sorry, like this just has to be said, we're all seeing it, we're all seeing it. Like this is, this is, this is not, I feel really bad for the kids right now because they're the ones who are really gonna be, this is all silly and funny for us, like this petty ridiculous thing,

but like those kids, this is gonna trickle down to them in some way. I don't know how, I hope it's gonna be okay, but yeah. Real quickly, because we- It does go from entertainment to like your laugh, I mean, the laughing, the laughing has never been like, oh my God, the children traumatized, oh wow, it's never been that.

It's like laughing at kind of the campiness of what we're being presented. Of course. You know, while also, you know, it gets really dark, especially the stuff that's not edited and that you're filming yourself in your house, you know, where you see the kids there, which maybe she never even considered what trauma that is,

because God knows what she grew up with. I know you're gonna try and finish it, but are you gonna talk about the mom's video too? No, I haven't seen the mom's video. I was gonna just mention really quickly also Jen Chas reaction. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that happened, but you know, we do have to also turn it over to the list.

Yeah, well why don't we save the rest for the recap? Because there's still a few things that we can talk about. It's gonna be, I'm sure, a massive 20 hour recap this week for the first reunion anyway. But I think we got the main stuff in, which was that mom video, the mom Monica. The other mom video was just, I had never seen it, was Linda explaining

how she never abandoned her daughter. And she's like, I did not abandon Monica. Those people I love Monica with were our neighbors. They love Monica. She loved them. She babysit the kids. The kids loved her. And she went on this whole thing,

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