Watch What Crappens - #2288 RHOSLC, Part 1: Reunion! Proof! Timeline!

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

After last week’s legendary Real Housewives of Salt Lake City finale, we could not wait for the reunion, and this episode (S04E17) did not disappoint.  We break down everything from Monica’s show application email to Lisa’s ring to Whitney’s dubious claims.  It’s a two parter from us.  Stick around for the second half of our recap in, coming shortly!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I've been so much more crap than crap. I've been so much more crap than crap. Hello and welcome to Watch or Crap Ins. A podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie. How are you? So good today.

It's a thrilling day to be a Bravo fan. Ben. Yes. Happy Salt Lake City reunion day. I feel like this is, I feel like everyone's tuning in for this right now. Like the finale was so huge that I'm sure the ratings for this reunion are gonna be through the roof. I mean, already over the weekend,

during the Golden Globes, Jennifer Lawrence was talking about how the finale, I just saw a video this morning about Megan, the stallion talking about the finale. I mean, it's everywhere. This is the finale. I just saw a video this morning about Megan Lee Stallion talking about the finale. I mean, like this is, it's everywhere. This is the thing. This is the, this is where you want to be in pop culture right now. That's the Spirits Act. You know where else you're going to want to be the Golden Crappies, which is our yearly award show for all things Bravo. That's going to be February 17th this

year. We're really excited. Tickets are just now going on sale. You can find ticket links at watchwhatcrapins.com. February 17th. It's in Los Angeles. It is at the Palace Theatre. You never know who's going to be there. We have so much fun. Come to that. It's already looking like it's going to be a huge party from everybody that we're hearing back from and everybody that's coming and our nominations special. We did a two-part nomination special where we went over a bunch of your all suggestions on our bonus episode this week on Patreon. This is also a video which you can watch on Patreon as well. Find all those links at watchfootcrapons.com and thanks to everybody who's already bought

tickets. Yassah! Yassah, it's going gonna be a mausoleum. I'm really excited for it. This reunion, I'm also excited for. Wow. I mean, before we start it, can I give a shout out real quick? Of course.

But I just want to give a shout out to a couple of friends of the pod. We have such talented friends. Brent the Stanley, you are kicking ass with your book, Still Small Voice. Brent the Stanley, Still Small Voice, it's Mormon, it's a mystery, takes place in SLC, go read it, I'm really enjoying it. Also I used to host a co-host a podcast called Rose Pricks, which was about Bachelor, it was a Bachelor recap podcast with Stephanie Wilder Taylor.

We did that together for like four years. She made me laugh so hard. She's a good person and a good friend and a really good writer. She's got so many books out and her newest one is out now to preorder. It's called Drunkish by Stephanie Wilder Taylor with an F, Stephanie with an F. So go get it. So both, both Brenda Sandling and Stephanie Wilder Taylor with an F, Stephanie with an F. So go get it. So both, both Brenda Sandling and Stephanie Wilder Taylor, congrats on your books, Drunkish and still small

voice. People go buy things. Let's make a difference. Congratulations. That's really an epic achievement for both people there. So congratulations. Yeah. Congratulations to us also for the book of notes that we took or for what were you going to say. Note that we wrote a book of notes to get through this reunion. Wow, just wild. It's just so wild. And like, you know, I just, I don't know. I can't even do my usual like pontificating before the, just we just dive in actually before we dive in Let's talk to you want to talk about Do you want to do it here? Do you want to do it in the episode? Oh?

We get to the recording. Okay, you just let me know you give me the sign. Okay, but we have something special Oh gosh, well, you know We've been going a little crazy with the Monica stuff because after our last recap last week Which was the season finale, obviously, we recapped that before it came out. So we hadn't really seen the internet response, which is always good. I really like that because we don't, we can't get swayed by any other opinions, you know, it's just whatever we're, we try not to be anyway, but you can't really help it when

you read the internet a lot. But guess what I do get obsessed with, things that come out on the internet. So Monica went a little while on the internet and so did Tanisha. They started, everything just started coming out. Tanisha just started receipts, receipts, she leaked a bunch of stuff,

and it led people to be like, what the hell's going on? When did all of this take place? So in last night's crappy hour, the other night's crappy hour, we did a time, a monika timeline, as we understand it, as just stuff that we've looked at on the internet

with help from Bravo and Blaze account, with Sassy from, Broadcast, podcast, and a bunch of other TikTok people who really put a lot of stuff together in effort. So go listen to that because there's a lot of really good background information and stuff like that. Yeah, and it's like a quote-unquote living document because obviously stuff keeps on coming

out, but like this was Ronnie did a great job, compiling all the dates so far that are at least her out there on the internet. So it was just an easier way to get all the information right there. So yeah, go check out our crappy hour episode because there's a lot of SLC gossip on there. A lot. Something we didn't even get to talk about

was just this video that was released of Monica and her mother. We talked about it a little bit, I think. Yeah, we did talk about it. We talked about it. The video of Monica and her mother, yeah, we talked about that. And go just go check it out. It's our crappy hour live.

It's out this week on the free feed. If you want to watch a video, you can watch it over on our Patreon. Okay, so let's get started. One of the biggest reunions of the season. Yeah, huge. So the episode opens up with like a trailer of Westacom, like on this three-part solid sitting read. But it was a good trailer. It was really, really good trailer. It was pretty good. Are you bad leather? Are you bad weather or leather? No. Are you bad leather? Wait, are you bad weather or leather?

No, is that bad leather? Yeah, no, he said, Heather and Lisa, are you too bad weather? Right. Ha, ha, ha. Already confused. Don't add all of Real Housewife leather. I know. I was like, and you're taking your life into your hands right now.

You've already had Tamer telling you to shut your mouth or whatever this year. You do not need another housewife cursing you out on a reunion. You saw the way Heather knocked Angie out of a chair in an effort to get past the window to get out that little barn, Bermuda. You better be careful where you're sitting.

You're not right next to her. She will knock you out if you call her leather one more time. So anyway, I didn't really take notes on the trailer because we're going to see it anyway. So it opens properly with the women arriving in New York City and they're all getting out. Had the Statue of Liberty haze. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like your arm down already. Doesn't that hurt?

Don't you ever feel that? That is such an active statue. I don't like active statues. But you're fucking arm down. It's like I'm so overlooking you with your arm and these are like that. Like we get it. You know the answer. You're always the first one to ask.

It's like a permanent survivor endurance challenge. Um, yeah, it's like, Statue of Liberty is like, I said, give me your tired and your, your, your poor, not your try hards and thirsty real housewives. Yeah, it's best like it. I'm tired and put it down, put down your armpit. Okay. I'm stop welcoming to America with your armpit, people to America with your armpit. We don't need it statue of liberty, okay?

Well, I just make all statues, like the Lincoln Memorial, or the Lincoln one where he's just sitting down. I just wanna sit in statue, okay? I wanna disappoint at statue, where statue just has her hands on her hips, and like a look on her face, like really, her lips pierced with her eyebrows like I'm literally

getting shit on by pigeons and you are gonna take a photo in front of me of my bad hair day. Yeah. So then we see that and then we see other shots of New York, oh New York what you've become just a shot of the forever not 21 anymore store. It's like yeah, come on. And I like so these SUVs keep pulling up in front of the studio and they're getting out of the SUVs and walking in.

And I just love that there's like a Dunkin' Donuts across the street. I think of course this show, like, you know, if it's New York, these things are everywhere, but just somehow the idea of these women glamorously stepping out of this SUV is well, they're just like, Dunkin', you know, I don't know. It's just like it's so perfect for this show, especially the way the season began. So as they arrive, they get out of the cars and then we slow-mo on them, kind of walking through the door

and then we hear echoes of what their trauma is for the reunion coming into the reunion. And Heather says, I felt like I had to protect her for the fact that she gave me a black eye. And then Meredith arrives. And she just kind of pops out of the, this is the least benzode we've ever seen Meredith by the way. She just practically skips from the car inside, little pig tails like, well, she's in

a city where blazers are, you know, commonly accepted. She's like in a very blazer friendly city, so she feels great right now. Very, very forward city. It's a very blazer forward so she's like, I'm back on land people. So we hear her voice over for three months. You with us and not told us not true, true, true, true, true, true. I'm putting on the gloss because I already feel that I'm going to need it for this. Yeah. So then Whitney, Whitney's of course is not as good as just saying, you have a secret, a secret, a secret, a secret, a mine. Yeah. He's secret he secret up mine

Yeah, her echo asked for a line her echo can't remember the thing it's echoing Yeah, what she goes to a can and she's like echo and her echoes is like echo echo line You exploited my vagina Echo, echo, echo. My. It's gonna make me laugh every time. I'm repeating exactly what you said. It is really funny.

So Angie said, by the way, Angie is. You can do that again. Again, remember her thing in season one. She was basically like, when they have that fight at the top golf. And she's like, wait a minute, can we start over from the top? I'm over. So Angie, by the poor Angie, she is, they kind of do her dirty on this episode. It's hilarious, but it's so Angie.

So when she has her big flashback, she doesn't even get the same most of her flashback. It's like she comes out in your Monica being like, Angie, let's talk about your involvement in her. I didn't do shit, shit, shit, shit. It's like a microsecond. They don't even give her a full like moment. They didn't even show her through holding up the bouquet to throw it Monica. We your notes are better than mine, because I just say Angie just gets to say hi. So hi, hi drivers. Thank you for the ride.

Mixed me never want to go home, am I right? So then, Liz, thank you for taking me to the reunion in this Greek NC car. I don't know if you saw the story today. This is what my life has come to. I don't know if you saw the story today. This is what my life has come to. I don't know if you noticed the story that I posted on our Instagram this morning, but there was a Greek food truck parked near me

and I drove by and I recorded. I go, I am Greek. I was like, this is what's happening. Now I see anything that's remotely Greek and I'm like, Angie. It's like when Durinda had her Giovanni moment, I was like, Angie, it's like, that's like when Durinda had her Giovanni moment, which is like, yeah, Giovanni.

And people just kept messaging us pictures in the grocery store of Giovanni yogurt and be like, yeah, oh my God, I see Durinda everywhere. You've got the disease. Where you see Bravo everywhere. Yeah, I got the disease. We thought it's a Bravo, it's a bravo fans disease, you know, it's good disease to have. I mean, listen, if you get right now, the Instacart finally came to my door and I

had came to my side door and I like literally looked at the friend door and was like, you exploited my vagina! To be fair, it was Heather delivering the food, which was really weird. To be fair, it was Heather delivering the food, which was really weird. So then, can I say something? Can I say something really quickly about that? Someone wrote a message that reminded me of something very funny, which is that you may remember this news story, but when Titanic came out in Utah, there was a video story that famously was offering to edit out the paint me like one of your French girl scenes from Titanic.

It actually made national news. So the person joke that Whitney probably has never even seen that scene, but also that scene is like, it makes me wonder, is that scene kind of like held as high taboo in Utah? Like to the point where like, you know, it's part of Utah culture that had to be, like someone had to like edit it out.

So when you refer to it in a book, it's like really muddy sounding. Just want to put that out? Oh my gosh. As a theory. Maybe, I don't know, I don't know how that culture works, but we sure hear about it a lot. It's just a good call back to some crazy,

crazy news story from the 90s. Anyway, that was cool. Oh news. Oh Titanic. I don't even really remember that scene as well as you remember it. It was like when did they hire somebody to paint her naked in that? Really, all I remember from Titanic. Obviously, I loved when the band kept playing as the ship went down. I loved that. I was like, oh my God, now that's a good worker right there. You know, we watch a lot of below deck

with terrible employees and I was like, those employees, they're dedicated. The boat is literally turning up, nose down and they're like, m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m- And then when Kathy Bates was in the boat watching all the poor people die, she just passed by. She's like, hi, darling, would you like a ride? I'd love that. Those are my two favorite parts.

Anything else I don't really remember. You know, Titanic in many ways was the Republic of its time. You know, those employees really cared. They were. Oh, gee, boss fees, Leah., embosses, Leah. Maddie. Yeah, Leah. Did you hit that iceberg?

You're in big trouble, sir. Maddie's DJing on the deck. You know, OK. So Monica, when Monica arrives, her flashback is of her finishing out the season by saying, there is so much more to the story. And trust and trust me, you're all gonna want to hear it. So now we see Andy walking out onto the set, which is both Bermuda, but also snow. It's like snowy Bermuda.

It's sort of, I imagine this is what Doreet's Panto looks like in London right now. It's like pirates, but it's also snowy. Peter Pan, both in London and in the Caribbean, in Never Never Land, all at once. The show also just has the least respect for its cast, I think of any show. And that's saying a lot, but the show, we see some dirty editing they did with Lisa a little bit later, which yeah, that's about now. But also just the fact that they want their cast members to be severely injured. I mean, we had that set that was an ice, wasn't it like a little ice fishing, there was a little ice in between them that they could fall into? And there was like a water pit last year.

Was it was it was it last year? I think it was last year. And I mean, you know what? Maybe two years ago, I think it was supposed to be the ice cave or whatever. Yeah. Whatever it was, it was very dangerous. And then this year they have a gigantic anchor, like a life-size anchor draped off the table for some reason off the coffee table. I guess because it's supposed to be a shipwreck

in Bermuda, they got, oh, did someone make a... I don't know what it was. So I'm out of that table yet. Sading him. Did someone make a perfume out of that table yet? They're pretty perfume. But stop trying to kill your cast, like she is. Hazard Bay.

Okay, so Andy's like, oh, hi Meredith. You brought your purse. That is good. That is good. And also, by the way, there was Heather, Lisa and Whitney were in the elevator holding hands. And when he's like, Archangel, Michael, please protect us. I'm like, okay, I'm sure this is top priority for Archangel Michael, please protect us. I'm like, okay, I'm sure this is top priority for

Archangel Archangel. Archangel. Archangel. Archangel. But also she said Michaels, which I thought was funny. She like got that. She was great. Archangel Michaels, please help us. It's like, it's the last name. It's just a different Archangel. No, at least it's or yeah, I'm also archangel hobby lobby. Okay. I love them. I love them. Please send us some pussy willow sprigs to decorate our sofas for the reunion. Save us.

And then she gets to check out and she's like, pussy willow sprigs. You've exploited by pussy willow sprigs. Senior receipt. Well, it was the last time you said pussy willow. Gosh. I'm going to say goodbye to you. I'm going to say goodbye to you. I'm going to say goodbye to you. I'm going to say goodbye to you.

I'm going to say goodbye to you. I'm going to say goodbye to you. I'm going to say goodbye to you. I'm going to say goodbye to you. I can start from for a rebrand. It's time for a rebrand. It's time for a rebrand. For a rebrand.

So, yeah. So Marath comes out and stage with a purse. I said, well, I brought a purse because I have a lot of notes. And also, I have some emergency baby food in case my toddler brook shows up. So, some Gerber in there. And so. So, everyone starts showing up to the sad and then he's like, oh my god, you're wearing clothes. Still, wow. And then Heather gets her main seat. But then we get survivor drums as Monica comes. It's like, so good.

We see Monica coming down in her co-address presumably. And she comes down to staircase. I firmly believe that Bravo built that staircase just so that way she could come down it. This is not a two-story set, but we need her to have a dramatic look. We can't afford a grand staircase, but we can afford a rickety staircase. So let's give her those. Those were a hundred percent backstage like stairs to the flies, you know, or the lighting grid or whatever, in the end.

Like after a hundred percent. That's a hundred percent up there. It's like, yeah, that is 100% what that was. So then we see the control room. It's like five, four, three, two, one. Push one, go Andy. Ah! Welcome back to the Real House, last of Salt Lake City,

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listen to Even The Royals early and addfree right now by joining Wondery Plus. Um, so he tells them, wow, I've heard that none of you have been together as a group since filming stopped. I'm on it because like, um, well, I ain't feeling like a family together without me. Oh, really? Are we going to start on this victim note? Like, you just can't imagine why nobody would want to hang out with poor, poor Monica. I know. And he's like, yeah, right. That's what I'm pointing out. We talked to like that. You're here. And the point is up here above your head. Okay. You need to go to the bermuda triangle and get the point is up here above your head, okay? You need to go to the bermuda triangle

and get the point lowered. Okay, good or lower? Well, we have, we have a lot to go through tonight and we will get into what happened. Now I before we get into the season, I want to mention the Jed Shavdol. She's routing a jail somewhere. If anyone wants to join me all together.

Anyone? So they're saying, were you worried about doing the show without Jen and how there's like, um, I was just worried that people are going to be addicted to the level of toxicity. No one watches these shows for toxicity. Meanwhile, their ratings just probably broke their record. Yeah, because of basically the toxicity. Okay, listen. The most toxic.

It's like I tell M&M's, I'm with you for the toxicity. Don't come out with an organic M&M. I'm never going to fucking eat it. I'm into you for the artificial flavors. Okay. It's why I want you. Is there an M&M that organic M&M on the horizon? No, but don't fucking do it.

Don't do it. You know what's coming? Don't you feel like it's coming? They're probably, there probably is going to be some sort of annoying M&M. But you know what? I can't say Prissy Willow anymore. Next thing they're going to do is fucking make more M&M's work. First, they came for the Pussyballer. Then they come for the M&M's.

I'm just going to say M&M's as much as possible because apparently we mentioned Pepto Bismol at one point and Pepto Bismol sent us care packages as a thank you, which we didn't even realize what we were doing. So I'm just hoping that if I say M&M enough that we get an M&M, but care package also. So I'm going to put that out to the universe. Pepto also gave me a karaoke mic. So they did. It's like you know I have the right.

I was rose gold and love to sing. Yeah. This way. Well, why did I say that? Yeah, it's like you know I have rose gold and love to sing Yeah, this way Well, why did I say that? Oh, you know How are we supposed to shout out Pepto Bismal without talking about pooping? Listen, no, it's saying look now because you don't have to go to To the bathroom you can sing your songs I'll sing it on the pot to carry you know, I think it's the karaoke mic that I can do that with

I'm not above singing on the pot. I want to help my I feel like I'm having a karaoke mic a wireless karaoke mic near the pot is not always a great idea. I don't think that needs to be broadcast Echo echo echo line line So that's with me I want to do somebody somebody I want to feel the line line

line line Can we start that again? Is that the mic is that the mic responding to it me for what the might lot, the might be comes forgetting its line to in the toilet. The mic as the mic as spoken by Chris Amul's has become sentient. Story lit. Okay. No need trying to save that one, everybody, let's just move on. We're going to put that one on social everyone. So, so everyone was to hang out with Monica after

finding out that she was reality Von Tees and she's shocked you guys. So Andy's like, yeah, that's a point. So he goes, okay, well, we'll get into what happened after the finale. But before the season, I have to mention the Gen Shaw that all already asked this question. We've answered it. Let's move on. Thank you again, Pepto Bismal, love your boobs. Okay, let's start at the beginning. Monica stepped out and rented a Range Rover right into drama

with the 1%. And so we see a video package of Monica, Monica's life and everything, which sort of ends with Lisa being, she just wants to be me. So Andy's like, do you want to be Lisa? I'm like, oh, no girl. And.

So do you want to be Lisa? No. And so Andy's like, well, it was good. My voice is now suddenly very Andy. You know, I thought it was really touching and honest when you cried to your mom about worrying about feeling left out and the labels's in bind the purse. Well, was that important for you to share?

And he was not touching it was hilarious. Please do not make this seem like it was a vulnerable moment. When you cried about that purse, I just wanted to fit in. I bought Louis Vuitton purse. I just wanted to fit in. That was one of the most ridiculous moments of the season. I wanted the best too.

I'm, I love these. Like why was that important to share? Because that's why you hired her. It's her storyline. She's the poor one. Okay. Are we pretending we haven't been here before? So she's like, you wasn't about the bag. It was about entering this group of women as an outsider looking in because they look flawless and their homes are beautiful and they're married and their kids are successful. And you just look at it from the outside and you're like, what am I bringing? I'm just a whore. I'm a whore, it's called a whore.

So I'm living in 3,000 square foot home. Okay, so Monica is so honest that it hurts. She's like, look at me, I'm just gonna be so honest that it hurts. But then in my research of looking up stuff for the timeline, her home is 1,200 square feet, not 3,000. So why are you acting like, oh my god, look at me, just the poor one.

But then over doubling the size of your house in your example. She's like, listen, I don't want people to think I'm Gina poor. So I'm a whore, I'm kind of semi-poor whore. Like with the Kirgit-Shmater, but still. I never said I was the best mother in the world to be some kind of a try so I mean the fact that she said I'm just some horror with four children and forced I was like oh my god please just inject it into my veins so this really is good. This is like some development fantastic.

And this is like made for the games by the guys. I got. I got. I got. Yeah, this is like. I'm shaking. I'm trembling right now. Ben, hold on.

I'm trembling. I'm trembling. Give her a flop. So Andy is like, so why were you so annoyed about Lisa carrying on about the $60,000 ring? I mean, I had to assume if you had lost a ring, LOL, like your chime card could afford it, you'd be freaking out about it too. And she's like,

aww, Lisa, Lisa had like every, like right to be upset about like losing her ring, but like what I didn't like was like $6,000, $6,000, $6,000, oh yeah. Dude, be upset that you lost something that cost more than your house woman in a show. Okay, and I only said price.

I only said the price three times. And you know, like, Here's why it's the big deal. Okay, it's the big deal. And me almost died after we had him. And John gave me that because I didn't know if I could have one gift. And I know it's more than just a ring. It's a Henry ring. I look at it and I could have one gift. And I know it's more than just a ring. It's a Henry ring.

I look at it and I think it by two beautiful babies. Hold on. And if it could you open a window? Ah! Ah! There's nothing that I can release a fellow. Take me to the ring. By the way, there is nothing funny

about almost losing your child. I'm not laughing at that. I'm just laughing because it's like, I only bragged about my $60,000 ring, 97 times because of a trauma. Lisa, seriously, I loved that they, did they even show the clip of her just going, oh my god, what's my ring? It's 60,000. It's 60,000.

Remember when she, great, we're leaving the airport and she made the crossing guard. She's like, yes, officer, I lost my ring. It was 60,000. So like, please look fucking crossing guard of the airport alone, man. Yeah. What you supposed to say is a $20. No one steals it if they find it. So Mark said, well, girl, that was like beautiful girl.

I didn't know it. And Lisa's like, well, there was no one's business. Huh. And Mark said, well, I'm just saying. And she's like, I was stressed because to me, it's a symbol. Huh. And Monica's like, well, I'm just saying. And she's like, I was stressed because to me, it's a symbol. And Monica was like, well, you know, like I thought you would said that you were just bought it,

though, like what are you talking about? You're like, no, I said it was sentimental. Oh, like my first can of diet, Coke. Actually, how she says it, she goes, it was sentimental. It was sentimental. I love Lisa's accent coming in sometimes. Like she just, there are some things

where it's like sentimental. The fuck? So then she's like, listen, here's the thing. I get different brains for different things at different times. And that was not when I just gotten, okay? That was not when I just gotten, okay? These are the ones I just gotten.

These are the ones she holds up. Your grandmas. You've got all these frad new diamonds. I love the Lisa's like, what are you, it was just trauma. Now these are non-trauma diamonds. Yeah, like how could you accuse me of being materialistic? These are the rings I have that are new.

That one was sentimental. I'm not materialistic at all. Also, what is this country song that she came up with? I get rings for different things at different times. I was like, I'm just waiting for like a little guitar on the side, you know, and a little ditty. That one I had just got, and that one I had just got, and I get different rings for different things.

It's sort of like, I got friends in low places, I guess, in my mind. I get rings for different things. I love that. So then Monica's like, well, it's an ear point. Like he's asking me a question. I'm saying that's why I was annoyed because you kept saying 60, 60, 60. And Lisa's like, I was like, you know, listen, I was like very stressed. And so for me, it was like more than just a brain.

Like it doesn't mean that I'm not relatable to the middle class or that, like, I think that I'm part of the one percent, like who am I to do percentages? You know, what is middle? Middle class are four people, right? It doesn't mean I'm not relatable to the middle class. I understand things like

having Toyota Tursells and white refrigerators and shopping at Kirkland. That's a place, right? I understand these things. I'm totally relatable. When time I stole a pair of roller skates to trade it for a loaf of bread for my family. So, I sometimes, sometimes I go to Panera Bread and just give out quarters to people waiting in line. I totally relate to the middle class. Um, so, Ronika's like, well, you're writing about that. I never said you're one part of the 1% you're right. She's, oh, okay. Oh, so now you're trying to, you're trying about that. I never said you're one part of the 1% you're right. She's, oh, okay.

Oh, so now you're trying to, you're trying to dig at me. And she's like, no, what? Man, I'm just trying to see. I did research and now I understand the 1% like why are you saying I'm trying to dig you? Like the, like stabbing someone and then being like, what? Could you accuse me of something?

I mean, this is really is kind of perfect for this. I know. And she's like, she's like, no, the being like, what? Could you accuse me of something? I mean, this really is kind of perfect for this. I know. And she's like, she's like, no, she's like, girl, I didn't research on like what the 1% is. Like the 1% is like, ah, Shaqilo Neil. I was like, really? Like that's, I mean, everyone just laughs. Because such a bizarre reference for the 1%,

like, yes, he is the 1%, that's like Shaqilo Neil. And everyone's just like, oh, okay. And they're like, okay, yeah, I'm just, I'm glad Shakyel O'Neal got into the one percent. You know, not my financial guru, like, Jeffery Bezos. Sure, Shakyel O'Neal, why not? I mean, Shakyel O'Neal is richest fucking, he's still doing like huge campaigns.

So I don't know why everybody is dissing Shakyel. Okay, the shadow has still got to go on. Okay, he's still in television, talking something. He's he's talking basketball. I would know I don't pay attention. This is my I love his cooking show. No, he's on some like commercial Raymaphric. It is. He's always he does I see hot and he's always doing like I'm Shakyul O' it is. He's always in the grocery store. He does icy hot and he's always doing like, I'm Shakur Loneel for,

it's always something random like, emcer tiles or M&Ms. Oh my God, do not adore organic. Okay, so Ambi's like, so Monica, where do you think the rumors came from? The you stole the ring and we see boom, do you want? Allegedly all the snowflakes are sure that the broke snowflake stole snowflake, stole the piece of snowflake jewelry in the snow from snowballs and flakes of snow.

Bing, bing, bing, bing. Uhhh, and so she's like, I think I started over there meeting the other couch and they say, nah, it didn't start with me. I'm too, because I'm in the 1% so I can't be bothered with this, right? So, and Heather's like, what do you think that I started the rumor? That's horrifying, horrifying.

And Monica says, yes, she thinks it's Lisa and Heather. And she's like, let me ask you this. Why didn't you go online when you saw all the rumors started and say, I don't think Monica did that. Because they had already shot with you and they get to do. online when you saw all the rumors started and say I don't think Monica did that because they had already shot with you and no one could come stand up for you online. What are you talking about? Why would why in the world?

Like would she? I mean, it is so rich and that this point is sort of like nailed home a little bit later, but it is so rich that here's Monica part of some sort of troll account cabal That has spent four years putting out Videos about Gen Shaw and saying all this out there stuff about the cast and now here she is being like Rimmers about me like I can't put those these vicious rumors about me like it is so rich and by rich I mean, you know, Monica rich. Not really

really. Not the Barlow rich, but it's up there. Like, you know, 70% 70% rich. And the 70% percentage. No, wait, how's it go? 70% percentile is high. 1% 1% and not percentile is high. 1% 1% and not percentile is high I'm gonna stop echo echo echo So I got confused I was like finances now so Lisa's like that's not my job to do that and how to go maybe I didn't stand up for you because that's what I thought But I didn't say I'm on because thank you. Thank you for admitting that you think that I'm still something. And Lisa's like, what? There are people that like watch your back. Y'all. And Monica's like, yeah, you would think that I was still like, is it $1,000 ring from? Yeah.

Like, literally, Monica, yes. You, I mean, your storyline is that you're poor and you've gotten off by getting, like, justice against all these women, specifically Gen Shaw, but it seems like you've gotten off, like, unmasking the other women too. So, yeah, it does, like, I'm not saying I believe it, but like, it's not a wild thought. Like, a lot of people came to that conclusion that Monica stole the ring without having to read a gossip rag. A lot of people were like, well, Monica probably stole it. Yeah, I think that Monica's gotten in a lot of trouble for stuff this year, but I don't

think she stole it. I don't think she stole it either. I didn't think that. I don't want to say. I was like, oh, how dare you, from people commenting about that online. That said, it was a lot of comments of people like, of course, of course, the poor person's toy, you know, which is, you know, mean to horrible. None of you see in Lameez or Rob, like, can we please get some like a terrible example? That's a terrible example. That's

literally built a story about a guy who steals a loaf of bread. Yeah, so I'm saying. Oh, you're saying, well, but that means you're suggesting that. She's still a loaf of ring. Well, I'm saying you should be more empathetic even if people do something like it was having learned empathy like Laymas like feel feel things for people who need the bread, you know what I mean? Okay, that's one. Okay, I get it. Listen I don't I don't think she sold I really don't think she sold it, but I don't think it was like a crazy theory for some people. I just don't think anybody should expect anyone in the cast after what we just saw in the season finale to come be like, oh wow, Monica would never, you know? Yeah, like, I'll give it a minute.

So, Lisa's like, she's like, first of all, not wearing was $58,000, should it be clear? Sorry, $2,000. Oh, okay. Thank you, thank you Lisa. That lowered, that took you out of a bracket, they're a thank you. So I'm really not the 2%, I'm like $2,000 less,

you know, worth $2,000 less, so just putting that out, there are no shakilani, all. And like, it000 less. So just putting that out there, I know, she's a colonial. And like, it just like doesn't feel the same. Like, I've got a new one, doesn't feel the same. I don't like, I don't think it's the same. It looks good, I like my other one. I want my other one back, okay.

Well, plus taxes. So then that's probably like what, 5.8 a day? So it was like 59.8 a. So close, but sell not 60. I really missed the 60 ring. Oh, there was 60,000 dollars. I love this show because they're all wrong and they're all right. You know, it's like you want to stick up for at least,

but God, she is a muscle and it is nice to see Monica calling her out the whole season because that behavior was fucking annoying when she kept solving and is solving and throwing a fit about her damn $60,000 ring Yeah, so Monica's like why are you looking at me when you say that? Okay. This is really damaging. It's easy It's easy and it's stereotypical at least like what's stereotypical about it? She's like okay go ahead and laugh Angie because Angie's on the side But like haha haha haha haha I'm Greek She's like it is not stereotypical big mouth. And Monica, I think, you're gonna say I stole your ring because I have less than you, so I'm gonna steal.

And she said she didn't even say you stole it. She's like, oh, why are you talking shut up? Why are you even talking? You bitch, where are we bitch? Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh wow. And she's like, really, you're so classic, classy monica, you're classy, you might be, you really think you're classy,

but guess what's classical Greek culture? This doesn't involve you just like most of the season. It's like, what did she say? And now they're like, she said like the rest of the season says, oh, but she talked about me from that beginning to the end. I made a Greek salad with my Greek father. How dare you. Marcus, I can Lisa, I never take your wing girl.

I didn't even go into that bathroom until like 20 or 30 minutes after you lost your wing. Broom! Well early on you talked about your connection with Jinsha Monica. Were you friends with Jinsha? And she's like well I would describe it as we were friends first and then I was like quote unquote working for her and then I guess enemies So what did you specifically do for her? What was your job exactly? Honestly, okay when Monica starts with the honestly which she does every time

Just know to invalidate it and I think it's when most of us say honestly. I think that that is definitely It's like the most dishonest precursor of all time. Honestly. Honestly. Everything in her life, like looking back and knowing everything that I know now, I mean, I like get it, you know, because I think I was more of a friend, you know,

most really a good friend to her. Like I would go get her groceries. I would make sure she was on time for her meetings. It's like literally never had a friend who did that. You were working for her. Just say you were working for her. You can't have both ways. You can't come on the show saying,

oh, I used to work for Jen and then be like, I didn't work for her. I also love that she's saying, can't buy a job, but I basically just a friend to her while she's actively trolling her and using all the content like against her on a burner account. Like that is what's so funny about her saying that for me. And because it was literally at this moment that she was doing all that stuff, like right when she started with them, I mean the timeline was 20, it was like September when she supposedly met all of them at Meredith's store, I think,

is the first solid timeline we have. And then by November, she had created the reality of aunties' account. So I mean, she was already... You're right. She's like, I was just like a friend of her running her groceries while I was posting her abusive things online. Which again, this is always tricky, right? Because it's like you're a hero in a way for posting all of that gen shit. Cause Jen, let's never underestimate

all of this. What a fucking monster Jen is. It's weird because so then Andy basically has like and Andy says was the show filming and she says yeah You guys had already filmed season one She goes think she's like I think maybe you had already started film you didn't know You did Jen shot in light you know, okay, okay, and then Andy was like what she paying you and she goes no And he's like so you were taking time away from your kids for a job that didn't pay? And Monica was like, yeah.

So it's just so funny because Monica, at a different part of the season, she uses that like, you don't know what it's like to be abused, to be abused when you're not even getting paid, and almost suggesting like the abuse was that she wasn't getting paid. Like I was going through all this stuff and I wasn't even getting paid, like that's abuse.

But here she's saying it like, yeah, no, I wasn't being paid, I just did it because I was being a friend to her. It was like a strange, as a weird strange take she has on this. Well, she's trying for some reason not to say she was actively one of Jen's employees for whatever reason. Even though she's like that, it'll multiple times. Yeah, I don't know if it's a legal thing like she'll get in trouble for saying that she actually made money from Jen because that was all gotten gains.

So I don't know. Maybe she's afraid of getting taken away. Right. So I don't know. That's just a guess. I have no idea. But it is weird that she keeps waffling on that throughout the season because, and this is just something online. I don't even think it was from the show. I don't remember. So maybe I shouldn't say it, but I thought one of her things was, like Jen was always behind to paying them. Like she owed them a bunch of money or something. The impulse. Right. Yeah. That's that could. And it was weird because there was a part, the argument in the season where Monica said, like, I didn't work for Jen,

like, you have to get paid to work for someone. So now she's saying, I did work for her, but I wasn't getting paid. So, I don't know. So let's see here. So Andy talks about the connection with Jen. blah, blah, blah. She thinks they were filming.

She wasn't paid. I just put, she's lying. And then Monica says, I'm honestly, she was just my friend. So Heather's like, oh, so you didn't just think that you were gonna be like Kim Kardashian who started out as an assistant and then look where it got her.

So I'll be an assistant too. Like, well, that's like literally not terrible though. I don't know what the accusation is. It's like a lot of people who did that. I know it's like saying like, oh, so you're saying you want to put yourself on a trajectory? Really? So you made an effort to get one of your goals. You made an effort to take an entry-level job, hoping that it would have elevate you onto a career path. Wow. Wow. And so Heather's like, actually, I would like to hear something that you said.

And she reaches under both of the, it's like when we wake up in the middle of the night, we forget which pillow we fit the phone under. You know, but she finds it. And she whips it out and mom, because like, oh, I went to a mom, I'm feeling it. I love it. And he's like, oh, I went to a little mom for you to read that I love and it's like, oh my god It's an audio recording and a good quality one too. I'd like to add by the way well well done Heather well done It is very good and it's a I believe that these were in the Tunisia leaked voice notes voice memos or whatever, because she sent Tanisha a bunch and Tanisha saved them all and released them last week. So this is one of them. It's not

the ones that I have, but it says... Fucking Kim Kardashian, what? She was a fucking assistant, and I take one look at that bitch. Now I can fully admit I was putting up with that shit as a stepping stone. Yeah, girl. Yeah. Wow, this is really the end solving the mystery. Are you saying that you wanted to be like Kim Kardashian? No.

Here's the audio. I'm just like Kim Kardashian. I know. And then Andy's like, uh, and this proves what exactly she was doing it to get on the show. And I was like, mm-hmm. She's like, that's exactly it. Yes.

So before we go on with this, do you want to hear, let's listen to the voice recordings that Tinicia released. It's weird to start because they're all kind of lumped together with no context. And at first, I don't really know what they're talking about, but it's still fun to listen to all of them just because it's, I don't know, because it's a minute and 51 seconds worth. If you don't want to listen to voice mills, just hit fast forward a few times. But they're kind of, they're interesting because when you hear them, you're like, oh, what

interesting foreshadowing for what happens on the season. Okay, I'm gonna hit play. Girl, I know. That's exactly why I call it a snake. Like you dumb bitch. Like low key, I want a DM, Mary, from like a burner account. You probably wouldn't ever see it. And just be like, which I can do it from reality on piece, okay, but anyway, because we know

she'd be watching that shit and she would open our messages. And just be like, just so you know, a Julian, one of our followers, a fucking fed that she said every day. One of our followers, a fucking fed that she said everything. So you fucking hell. Bitch, that girl is a fucking dirty rat. She's a rat, rat, rat. One of these types of things. Bravo will not touch you again with a 10-foot pole.

And that's exactly what I was saying. I'm not trying to ruin my credibility or name or future like that. Bitch, what happens if fucking Lisa Barlow or Mara Marks somehow we don't know, okay, we got in with Jen, we would never be able to do that again. Like, look, at the end of the day, my goal is to be a star, bitch. Ah! Kind of joking, but also kind of serious. Like, I don't want to ruin my chances for ever being on a bravo show. Hello!

Hello! No! You guys, I think I might turn up to Park City because the movers are coming today. What do you guys think? Should I do it to record for like BTS reality on cheese footage? Yeah, that was it. That's it. So that's her, you know,'s gonna go do the stocking Gen shopping for the BTS footage don't don't

So I think I think for me personally the most damning part about the most damning part I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's like oh this is this is not a good look But the thing that's most damning is when she literally says I Think we should make a burner account and message Mary. And I can just do reality volunteers, but she's basically saying, like, let's make a burner account, message Mary, and we'll say that one of our followers said this,

and da da da da da da da da. But like she expresses, like clearly this is in her pattern of behavior, and even though she jokes about it in the season, like that's something I would do, but like, she literally would do it. She literally would come up with a burner account to get some information out there. And that's really damning, you know, vis-a-vis the merit of the Greek mafia fight of 2023.

Now, isn't it, it's also just listening to those and watching this show. It really is kind of amazing in a way because you can hear the excitement in her voice. I mean, she is just thrilled. And also she's doing this with her friends. Presumably, these are, I mean, I guess they are not presumably. They are all to Tunisia that Tunisia saved, but they're doing, they have a group project. You know what I mean? Like, oh my God, I work for her now.

And now we're getting all this secret footage of her. And now we have the secret account. Oh my God. She's like, oh, get secret footage in front of her house for the secret. It's like, mean girls. It's loony tunes, but it's also a group event. You know, I feel like things feel less crazy

when you're in a group. Like when you look at a cult, you know how last year at all, colloquial documentaries or more men is, you know, or this show is kind of a season two. Some of the season two of this, this show with Mary go on. No, yeah. Um, the, the, it's been, it's been in the pop culture in, in the pop culture. We are pop icon, a lot lately cults. And they seem less crazy, I think, when you watch these documentaries,

because people are in a group, and it just feels less nuts when you're in a group. And I think that you can really hear it in a way. I'm like happy for her, because she's just so excited, and they have a group project, and like they're doing so good. I mean, they've made it this far. They're taping, Jen, she has no idea.

They're posting all this stuff, no one has any idea. I mean, it just must be so thrilling for her and them to be getting away with all this stuff. And now fast forward, she's got the first seat on this show that she's been trying to warm her way into this whole time. And people hate her and people are, you know, telling her off the whole time and people hate her and people are, you know, telling her off

the whole time, but she's literally the entire reunion. I mean, listen, no matter what you think, well done on your goals. Well, that's why I said is that's why I said it's like mean girls like the story of mean girls. I'm not saying that they are not being literally like mean girls. I'm like the actual movie mean girls, right? Is that like Katie is like an outsider and then she and like the outsiders are like infiltrate the the cool girls and then she does and she gets into deep and Like that's literally what happened here like I don't like you know the stuff when she's like I'm gonna be a star or Like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do something to that would stop me from being on Bravo. And then it all sounds kind of like wild. I don't necessarily hold that against her

because hello, that's the origin sort of every single real housewife. Like, you know, just some of them wind up on the show by accident, like, Jenna Lyons or something, you know, where they don't know what they're doing. But like, they all, you know, like it, like, you can't act like all these people are not like Praying that they get picked up again for another season like they all want to be a real house

I mean all of the shows. I mean my got especially right now that we've won that we've got a glaring example of is southern charm I mean southern charm you've got JT who had his ex who was on ticsok saying oh, yeah JT has been stalking these people for years. He literally lived in a van down by the river or something and tried to infiltrate this friend group to the point where he got on the show. I think I guess maybe where the line is is that people want to be stars and they want to be on Bravo, but in the case of Monica, she faked it to get that far. But the weird thing with Monica is that faking it

is her most authentic self, right? Like the most authentic version of Monica is that she fakes her way through life, right? She changes her name, She has all these stories. She's kind of like a Connor. She is like a professional internet troll. Okay. So like her faking her way onto Bravo is the realest thing that Monica can do. Yeah. And there's all these books that have come out like Brian Moilins book and Dave Dave's from People magazine Dave. Why can't I come up with Dave's last name from People magazine? Anyway, I'd love you Dave

You know, we'd love you The behind the scenes books on the real housewives like not all his diamonds and Rose is his book And then Brian Moilins book that was like behind the scenes of all that and all these interviews and all this stuff and all this effort people are making to putting like a behind the scenes of a reality. So here it is. You know, it's like honestly, oh my god. That's a lot of work to get on. You know, so no matter what, you really think of Monica. At some point, you just have to be like, yay, you know what? It's a new year and we can all, we can all give you a pad on the back for like goal achieving. Yeah. So Andy is like, okay, so he's like, so were you being were you being Jen's assistant to get on the show? Am I cuz like, well, first of all, I didn't even

think I would even ever wind up on the show, but like, why wouldn't I try to get on the show? Okay, I applied like everyone else. And then like, Heather's like, she's like, well, I'm clarifying that I don't think you were a friend. I think you had an agenda, which, hello, like welcome to your show. Everyone in the show has an agenda ever.

This is one of the most agenda e-shows on Bravo. They always have an agenda on the show has an agenda ever. This is one of the most agenda-y shows on Bravo. They always have an agenda on this show. And Monica's like, no, he didn't. When I met Jenna, I didn't even know she was on the show. I didn't even know. Which, yeah, that's going to come out of the now. Do you think Jen kept that a secret from anybody that she was on the show?

I did. Yeah, look, come on. I mean, we definitely just let Monica off the hook. We're like, look, she's just doing her, like her, the, the, filling the American dream, but also Monica's full of shit too. Well, I think, you know, it's all things at once. That's a tricky thing about Monica.

It's like, she's an ass. Like, you can see everything that she's doing. You can see her compulsively lying. You can see all this stuff, but we said it a million times a season. Like, at the same time, she's still also a really charismatic person. And you're rooting for her, you know, and I could die for it. She's like Nicole Kippman and to die for it. So Andy is like, well, as the situation went on with her,

are you comfortable saying that you thought, oh, maybe I'll get on the show as a result of it? A monocos like, she's like, honestly, when I applied to get on the show, I just, I applied like everyone else. And Henge is like, I did not apply. I was referred through DemeterCasting.net at pro.dietcastingoffices.org. Lisa's like, oh yeah, and I hope I can show the Utah,

so I did a pi in there. I was like, okay, well, whatever, I hope I just shot a Utah. So I did a pi there. It's like, okay, well, whatever. Like anyone now would have to apply. So that's what I did. And Heather's like, but how? And Andy says, so you talked to casting or she says, I emailed and then she does the finger typing. She's like, I'm the emails kissing.

I'm just like everyone else did. And Heather goes, oh, really? And what did you say in casting? Obviously leading the witness, you know? Yeah. Monica falls for it every time. She's like, I'm mommy said, my name is Monica. I'm so, blah, blah, blah.

And you're showing shit and you're rating stock and you're just gonna get canceled because you don't have to write cast. Yeah, that's what I said. And fuck you too. And you're asking if you won't have to write cast. Yeah, that's what I said. And fuck you too. And you're actually, you all fuck stupid show. You're sheer fucking cancels. And fine but like,

you're feet, stupid, not. So that elicits a reaction from Andy. Andy has sort of like a whiplash reaction that he does every now and then where he like whips his head back. And he sort of blinks three times like, whoa, whoa, look at me, you should say that. So yeah, Mike is like, yeah, you didn't have the right cast. And he goes, oh, so did it suck, the riddex sucked.

And then we see on screen it says Monica's actual email, which is like, oh, hi, we check out in regards to your cast and go, I want more information on what needs to be done or like how to move forward. And I'm like, you guys need to spice the excuse me again. Let's see now this show. And immediately I'm your girl. It's like very nice.

And by the way, it was also, she sent this email in November 2021. That was in the middle of season two of the show, which season two was an epic, epic season. That was the season where Jen Shaw got arrested and everyone was riveted watching it. So when she says the show was boring and was doing poorly in the ratings, like it clearly was not when she did this.

Right, and this is also, this email is November 1st, I believe they say, November 1st of what, 2021. Okay, so that's a year after she started, believe they say, November 1st of what 2021? Okay, so that's a year after she started, or they started, whoever started, all of that started the reality Montese account. It's like exactly a year later, almost. At that time, Len. Yeah. So let's see here.

So this was the same of COO was fitting. Okay. Blah, blah, blah. Okay. So Andy has a lot of viewer questions. He's like, so a lot of people had a question about your friend in the secret service telling you there's some active case against shawtches. I'm not, that is not what he said. He goes, okay, what did he say? He did not say there was an active case.

He said, you better get away from Gen Shaw because she's going to prison. Okay. Well, I mean tomato tomato. And her ratings are terrible. And he's. And she's old. So he's like, well, how did you go from there to being an informant? He goes, well, girl, I talked, I talked to federal investigators.

And he's like, did you reach out to them? And she's like, I did girl, I said, your organization is stupid and justly and old, you know, and sound to criminal and likes 45 yards. You need a spicy activity in a team right now, oh, God. Thank you guys and nobody treasure organization anymore. You really need some fresh blood. Like the F guys like a so old and tired and stupid and everybody hates it. you guys, nobody treasure organizations anymore. You really mean some of fresh blood.

Like the F guys, like a so old and tired and stupid and everybody hates it. Yeah, you lost a lot of credibility with all those warnings on VHS tapes. So come on, you need some help. And he's like, so you did reach out to them. And she goes, yes. And I was like, I have info about your case, you know?

I did that. I call that doing the right thing. And I think that everyone here should have probably done the right thing to make like this. This is my. I love. I love when she tried to take a moral high ground. So then Andy asks how her famous affair started, which then leads to another monologue slash deflection because she never

actually answers this question. I'll let you take this one, Roni, because I, every time I do Monica's voice, I feel like my insides are going to fall out. They probably are. And probably dogs in everyone's neighborhood are barcades crazy. Oh, for both of us. So Andy's like, so, you know, we want to know when the affair with your brother and mom started. I'm just like, okay, well, first of all, I need to start by saying that that happened like over a decade ago. And as far as everyone here, especially Heather, has had very deep conversations with me about how painful that was and you guys like actually you guys were like wonderful So thank you love you guys. I'm so glad to be part of this sister But anyway, it's not about bragging about having an affair or being excommunicated because I had a scarlet letter

And I still do like I was a rebound ties. I like went through the whole Rebaptism process in the church like well like with the whole revaptism process in the church. Like, well, I'm just starting to, like what do you want me to say? And then Heather's like, yeah, I mean, she really did cry when we talked about it because it really is unfair. This is kind of my will house and I've written a book.

So I'm not really sure if you guys have heard of it. I'm bad Mormon. I have a Collins out now. Yeah, her friend said that you read the Bible every single time. I'm like, you guys, this is fine. How did the affair start? I want to know how this happened. Okay, let me tell you how the affair started. They kicked me out of Mormon, and then I wrote them an email

and I was like, your church sucks, and your membership numbers are shit and Mormonism is going to get capital cuz it's old and ugly. Oh. So, um, and he's like, are you, he's like, are you touching the former brother in law? And she's like, no. And he asks if like the brother is estranged and she, it's like, it wasn't like her exes brother. It was exes, her exes sisters, brother, et cetera. Well, that's matter.

It is. Well, that it didn't fully destroy a family. I guess. I guess it was the brother's sister's husband. How could he not? Well, because if it had been brother's brother's family trees, though. The reason why it's better is that like if it had been my brother's brother family trees, though, the reason why it's better is that like if it had been the brother's brother, then you have an issue between family, family, okay? But if it was the, if it was the brother, it was also the

inlaw of the brother, then it's like, well, the brother and the sister both dropped their spouses and they, you know, persevere onwards as happy siblings. I don't know, that's my take. Yeah, Monica, you know, another interesting thing about her was that she was with the husband, I guess, for a long time after this. So I guess he did forgive her or they got back together after this because they filed divorce

like for you after they got married. But then she just filed again in June of 2023 and it just finalized this October, which was a couple months ago. This past October. It feels so long ago. I mean, at the beginning of the season, I seem to remember Monica saying like, I was with the sky, and then we got divorced, then we got back together, da, da, da, da Monica saying, like, I was with the sky. And then we got divorced and we got back together. And it just seems like all those details that felt like, you know, we're going to be so important to know throughout the whole season. And just they just fell by the wayside because they were such bigger things, you know, but that fear of course is part of that. We kept be held onto that, but it's hard to remember all the way back to that first episode.

But anyway, Annie is basically like, listen, do yourself a little bit of grace. You didn't fully destroy a family. And Monica is like, she starts saying how like, you know, everyone's hearing about it for the first time. And it's just crazy. And I'm reliving it. And I'm constantly being called a horror online. No, the comments are really nasty.

They're just nasty. They're just wild. These comments, which she doesn't realize the irony of her saying this whatsoever. Hello there, this is a two-part recap, okay? This is the end of part one. So thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.

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