Watch What Crappens - #2291 Southern Charm: Stark Ravenel Mad!
Episode Date: January 12, 2024The Southern Charm season nine reunion (S09E16) kicks off with Shep confronting his waning value and Taylor outing Olivia’s most shameful secret.  Plus, a lot of movie references from ...JT..Watch with Crappens on Demand here:  http://bit.ly/crappensvideoSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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                                         Hello, just over coming one thing at a time, Ben.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
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                                         So everyone, welcome to Southern Charm Reunion Day.
                                         
    
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                                         He sure did. Um, okay, let's get into it. Southern charm reunion part one. You know, the first part of this reunion, I thought, oh my God, this is they have, they
                                         
                                         have nothing. Okay, they have nothing. They're going to try and string this along to just
                                         
                                         to get, uh, just get to the Taylor fight already. How many episodes is this gonna be just come on?
                                         
                                         And then when Olivia and Taylor both came in,
                                         
    
                                         Ariana revenge dress red with cutouts.
                                         
                                         I was like, okay, you know, enough you two.
                                         
                                         And then they dropped a bomb at the end of this
                                         
                                         that just, I'm still horrifying.
                                         
                                         You were really shaken by it.
                                         
                                         You texted me.
                                         
                                         That's, you weren't.
                                         
                                         I, it was, I mean, I was like, oh,
                                         
    
                                         but it was not a, I was not compelled to go to text.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna lie.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         I don't know why.
                                         
                                         Oh, wow, I was.
                                         
                                         I was like, I'm shooketh.
                                         
                                         I cannot believe they just dropped this bomb on Southern Trump.
                                         
                                         Can you believe it?
                                         
    
                                         And you said, I don't watch it, but I will.
                                         
                                         And then I didn't hear anything from you.
                                         
                                         So, wow, you're not only compelled to not text.
                                         
                                         You're not even compelled to text back about it.
                                         
                                         Oh, I didn't text back.
                                         
                                         I thought I texted back.
                                         
                                         You should at least say like, I'm shooketh too.
                                         
                                         Wait, did I, I didn't text back?
                                         
    
                                         Okay, I'm like, what the hell?
                                         
                                         Oh, I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         Well, I'm sure we were texting later about.
                                         
                                         It's not like you just left me hanging,
                                         
                                         but I just mean like when someone else is breathless,
                                         
                                         you have to be pretend you're breathless.
                                         
                                         You can't just let someone else scream on a rollercoaster.
                                         
                                         Oh, I'm sorry, I, I'm sorry.
                                         
    
                                         You're that person on the rollercoaster.
                                         
                                         I'm like this, my arms drop, I'm like,
                                         
                                         waaah!
                                         
                                         Freaking out, making funny face,
                                         
                                         and then just like cross-armed, like looking out the side.
                                         
                                         Like this rollercoasters are see well to be fair
                                         
                                         Last week with reality of aunties. That's what was me. I was like, oh my god
                                         
                                         And you're like yeah, I knew about those two weeks ago. So you know
                                         
    
                                         Everyone has twist that effect of the difference, you know
                                         
                                         Okay, you know what you're on space mountain and I'm on the matterhorn
                                         
                                         We have different roller coasters that appeal to our different sensibilities and that's okay
                                         
                                         That's what makes us a podcast
                                         
                                         Yeah, okay, well it was I forget
                                         
                                         Yeah, even though I'm dating someone's sorry
                                         
                                         so people the the reunion starts with people showing up
                                         
                                         And we see like backstage stuff people getting ready. We see Craig putting in eye drops
                                         
    
                                         He's like these are like prescription eye drops for like news anchors, which by the
                                         
                                         way, I can only imagine Craig reading the news.
                                         
                                         Like, this just in, hey, just coming into town, like, she's like so cute.
                                         
                                         We're going to try to get married someday. More details later.
                                         
                                         Craig is the newscaster. Well, the weather's really not cool right now,
                                         
                                         but like, just so you guys know,
                                         
                                         you should not talk to your ex.
                                         
                                         Like when it's over, it's over.
                                         
    
                                         That's when I tell everybody.
                                         
                                         This just in, the government is working hard
                                         
                                         to avoid a shutdown if you even believe that
                                         
                                         the government really truly exists.
                                         
                                         The government or as I like to call it, a bunch of people not in panda suits yet.
                                         
                                         NASA, this just in NASA, has just received huge cuts in its budget, which means that there
                                         
                                         are next movie landing on the moon again has been indefinitely canceled.
                                         
                                         So JT is trying really hard because he's JT and he's a tryhard.
                                         
    
                                         He's making an effort.
                                         
                                         Is he an entertaining tryhard?
                                         
                                         Sure. But he really is trying hard.
                                         
                                         He comes in his Tom Cruise glasses,
                                         
                                         his movie, I'll top guard.
                                         
                                         He's got the aviators.
                                         
                                         His glasses, and he's like popping his cleavage.
                                         
                                         Well, he gets his hair done.
                                         
    
                                         He's like, yeah, look at my cleavage,
                                         
                                         popping off there.
                                         
                                         Look at that.
                                         
                                         And he's like, let's just say I was on discipline last night,
                                         
                                         which means I'll be on him today. I'm like, oh, let's just say I was on discipline last night, which means I'll be unhinged today
                                         
                                         I'm like as opposed to which days so then then Austin in the other room is still doing his 80s bully thing
                                         
                                         He's like JT like what a fucking nerd like I'm just not gonna be dragged down by anyone out here today like we're crazy
                                         
                                         I'm gonna. Hey JT
                                         
    
                                         Meet you at 3 p.m. Sharp. Okay, I'm gonna beat you up.
                                         
                                         Oh, it's sane right now. He really is that like that. Like, J.T.
                                         
                                         He's the guy who doesn't get to grow on the guy who gets to grow. I wish he showed up in his
                                         
                                         homecoming jacket like Cory did on the winter house for you and who literally wore
                                         
                                         like his high school old gummies.
                                         
                                         It's ridiculous.
                                         
                                         I don't know if it was literally that, but it was like that style, yikes.
                                         
                                         Um, and then shepp and his own dress room was like,
                                         
    
                                         gosh, Austin, it's just like astounding the lack of contriteness.
                                         
                                         There, you know, there's a quote by Napoleon,
                                         
                                         never interfere with your opponent when he's making mistakes.
                                         
                                         It's rude.
                                         
                                         Ha!
                                         
                                         That is not the quote, okay? never interfere with your opponent when he's making mistakes. It's rude. Ha-ha-ha!
                                         
                                         That is not the quote, okay?
                                         
                                         The quote is never interfere with an enemy
                                         
    
                                         in the process of destroying himself, stupid.
                                         
                                         And also, if we're gonna quote Napoleon,
                                         
                                         how about Napoleon Dynamite?
                                         
                                         That's who you quote, okay?
                                         
                                         Um, a Liger.
                                         
                                         It's pretty much my favorite animal.
                                         
                                         It's like a lion, I'm the tiger mixed.
                                         
                                         Bread for its skills and magic.
                                         
    
                                         Booooosh!
                                         
                                         Or you can just quote an Napoleon ice cream,
                                         
                                         which is just, I don't know, actually,
                                         
                                         I never mind.
                                         
                                         So, just like, why am I breading?
                                         
                                         Is Napoleon ice cream breaded?
                                         
                                         Was it Napoleon? What breaded with Napoleon?
                                         
                                         What's the number one?
                                         
    
                                         Isn't that the one that's like chocolate, vanilla,
                                         
                                         and strawberry all together?
                                         
                                         No, that's me, a polytin.
                                         
                                         Yes, it is. You're correct.
                                         
                                         Is there a Napoleon does not exist?
                                         
                                         Now we can't leave people hanging.
                                         
                                         There's people really put, yes, it there is.
                                         
                                         It's a cake.
                                         
    
                                         A French Napoleon is pastry sheets and icing.
                                         
                                         They kind of decorate it.
                                         
                                         It kind of looks like a tiramisu,
                                         
                                         but more crunchy, I guess.
                                         
                                         What does Napoleon dessert?
                                         
                                         And a puff pastry.
                                         
                                         And it originated from Russia.
                                         
                                         So it's basically the tops and the bottoms of something,
                                         
    
                                         but no middle, right?
                                         
                                         Is the frosting and the crusts.
                                         
                                         Oh, it's layers.
                                         
                                         So it's like layers.
                                         
                                         It's like crust and frosting,
                                         
                                         frosting and crusts.
                                         
                                         But there's nothing on the inside. Yeah, crust and frosting. So Bonita shows up and It's like crust and frosting. Frosty crusty crusty. But there's nothing on the inside.
                                         
                                         Yeah, crust and frosting.
                                         
    
                                         So, Venina shows up and she's very nervous for Taylor.
                                         
                                         And Taylor is like, wow, Olivia is a very, very bold person.
                                         
                                         I mean, I'm in the hot seat, but there's other things
                                         
                                         that need to be discussed.
                                         
                                         And then Olivia is telling all of the people
                                         
                                         getting her ready.
                                         
                                         Who, by the way, they're like cutting off threads and doing all this stuff to the dress, the
                                         
                                         dress never fits.
                                         
    
                                         They never find a way to make the dress fit, so I'm not really sure what all those people
                                         
                                         are there for, but sometimes it's important to give a review of people doing bad tailoring
                                         
                                         and that's you guys.
                                         
                                         You're doing a terrible job.
                                         
                                         No, Darryl Sparrow.
                                         
                                         Now, please, please sing them off for them.
                                         
                                         Take one, brother.
                                         
                                         Sorry.
                                         
    
                                         I'm so secure over from Beverly Hills.
                                         
                                         So Olivia's like, oh, I'm sorry, but that's like because of your actions, but that's not
                                         
                                         like the person that I want in my life.
                                         
                                         So yeah, it's another great observation by Olivia.
                                         
                                         So now they all go to the stage.
                                         
                                         This set is gorgeous and sumptuous.
                                         
                                         Someone on Twitter posted a photo of like the real houses
                                         
                                         of Orange County, a reunion in the Salt Lake City reunion
                                         
    
                                         and I'm just going to like extend it by posting this one too.
                                         
                                         And their treat was like,
                                         
                                         Orange County got like a gorgeous wrap around,
                                         
                                         I'm act experienced for a set.
                                         
                                         And Salt Lake City got the set of goonies.
                                         
                                         And it's so true.
                                         
                                         Like this set is beautiful and like,
                                         
                                         I wanted to like live in this set.
                                         
    
                                         And Orange County was gorgeous.
                                         
                                         And Salt Lake City with its like weird fake snow
                                         
                                         and like fake permute in the background with netting.
                                         
                                         Did you see the Lisa Barlow tweet?
                                         
                                         She said, I did not wear Tom Ford to be in the ship rock.
                                         
                                         Did you see by the way, I'm sure you saw it by now.
                                         
                                         Did you see that?
                                         
                                         Like someone in Congress quoted receipts proof timeline.
                                         
    
                                         As part of their, as part of their like
                                         
                                         anti-Trump damning case. I thought that was hilarious.
                                         
                                         Just when you think our government can't get more fucking ridiculous.
                                         
                                         They're quoting housewives while they're telling someone.
                                         
                                         Oh God.
                                         
                                         I was like, who the fuck? Who the fuck is this person?
                                         
                                         And I clicked on it. It's like mayor of Long Beach. And I was like, oh, yeah, well, okay.
                                         
                                         Bad exciting. You go Long Beach. Missy Cherry Avenue used to live on you. So
                                         
    
                                         Now everybody comes out. They're being seated and
                                         
                                         Andy is like, whoa, everybody. I'm here to re-ash so much, but it might cause some people with more
                                         
                                         Zoom-silent
                                         
                                         And I would like to also point out that like they show of course a trailer of like what's to come and of course like the the preview of what's
                                         
                                         The come starts with
                                         
                                         You don't like women the world guys. You don't like them to finish off like of course it starts with, shabby is it true? You don't like women's orgasms? You don't like them to finish.
                                         
                                         I was like, of course it starts with that.
                                         
                                         So shab about that, those new boobs.
                                         
    
                                         Boom.
                                         
                                         Boom.
                                         
                                         So I was just like, wow, I've looked the motif
                                         
                                         of the set this year.
                                         
                                         He's like, yeah, it's based on your privilege.
                                         
                                         I mean, family's house in the mountains.
                                         
                                         No thought privilege. And that Andy says, and the mountains, no thought, privilege.
                                         
                                         And that Andy says, by the way, he says this season
                                         
    
                                         ended with a big cliffhanger,
                                         
                                         but we're gonna get to that later.
                                         
                                         Was there a cliffhanger?
                                         
                                         I thought it was just,
                                         
                                         Chef walking out of the party, right?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I don't remember that at all.
                                         
                                         So yeah, well,
                                         
                                         there should I look at the notes from last week.
                                         
    
                                         Sure, but I thought it was just going to watch out of the party.
                                         
                                         So then, um, Southern Shore, let's see how it ended.
                                         
                                         Um, it ended because Austin and JT were fighting and Austin pushed JT off the stool.
                                         
                                         And then we didn't mention that JT had to jump up to try and head, but Austin, which
                                         
                                         was really funny, like he's playing volleyball with a person's head.
                                         
                                         Just like, I'm going to get the girl one of these days.
                                         
                                         And then, Chef was just like,
                                         
                                         oh, our relationship, me and Austin's relationship,
                                         
    
                                         is very free.
                                         
                                         So I guess that's the cliffhanger.
                                         
                                         So we'll Chef and Austin make up.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I don't think that was a big cliffhanger.
                                         
                                         So yeah, Chef, Chef is like, oh yeah, I love the motif.
                                         
                                         The mountain house, that's my happy place,
                                         
                                         where I could play pigpog and you know, girls.
                                         
                                         So Andy asked Taylor, he's like,
                                         
    
                                         so did Ariana give you advice about your revenge dress?
                                         
                                         That's a real original over there, Taylor.
                                         
                                         And she's, they're both kind of in these dresses, right? Taylor and Olivia. about your revenge dress has a real original over there, Taylor.
                                         
                                         And she's, they're both kind of in these dresses, right?
                                         
                                         Taylor and Olivia and Taylor's like,
                                         
                                         I'm wearing my Scarlett letter.
                                         
                                         I'm owning up to everything.
                                         
                                         Oh, really?
                                         
    
                                         What'd you do?
                                         
                                         I haven't read the cards yet.
                                         
                                         I didn't know you were still on this show.
                                         
                                         Must not have been too good
                                         
                                         because you are not in the first share.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         And so, also, is Andy sitting in front of prop rhino tusks?
                                         
                                         Like why did the sets of these shows even have to be problematic?
                                         
    
                                         Like, why does a reunion set have to be problematic?
                                         
                                         Why do they have a depiction of that dentist holding up Cecil the lion back there?
                                         
                                         Jimmy John.
                                         
                                         Was that his name, Jimmy John?
                                         
                                         The dentist.
                                         
                                         No, Jimmy John is the one who owns a sandwich shop.
                                         
                                         Jimmy John's, and he was like a big director.
                                         
                                         Which by the way, last time I brought him up,
                                         
    
                                         people reminded me, Jimmy John sold that place.
                                         
                                         So we can eat there now and not feel like we've killed
                                         
                                         the tiger to deal with it.
                                         
                                         We're like, or,
                                         
                                         we're like or...
                                         
                                         So, hey Olivia, did you introduce Olivia already?
                                         
                                         No, I don't think you did.
                                         
                                         Just tell, hey, Olivia, should I also imagine?
                                         
    
                                         Olivia's wearing red today.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but I don't have a scarlet letter and guess what?
                                         
                                         I don't even understand what a scarlet letter means.
                                         
                                         Why would you send a letter in the mail on red paper?
                                         
                                         Doesn't make sense.
                                         
                                         He's like, okay.
                                         
                                         Like he does not care.
                                         
                                         And so he's loves Madison.
                                         
    
                                         He came into the dressing room before he's like, wow, wow, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, What are you Marilyn Monroe? That is amazing.
                                         
                                         And now I see Zora Gammon, he's like,
                                         
                                         oh wow, I have Marilyn Monroe.
                                         
                                         What Madison Monroe?
                                         
                                         Wow, very hard.
                                         
                                         I call it a whirl.
                                         
                                         I know, he was like, I'm not going to say it.
                                         
                                         I'm not going to say, I got it.
                                         
    
                                         Well, sorry, it's just inside all of us, Gaze.
                                         
                                         You just have to hit the right button and it'll come on out.
                                         
                                         I am literally shaking at Madison Monroe right now.
                                         
                                         Mother.
                                         
                                         So, and he's like, hi, the leader.
                                         
                                         Last year you gave us Barbie Corp.
                                         
                                         What are you giving this year?
                                         
                                         She goes waiting to exhale,
                                         
    
                                         and you know that no one on that stage,
                                         
                                         except for Andy knew what she was referencing. What does that mean waiting to exhale and you know that no one on that stage, except for Andy knew what she was referencing.
                                         
                                         What does that mean waiting to exhale?
                                         
                                         Shush, shush, shush.
                                         
                                         Eh.
                                         
                                         So he asks JT how he feels and he's like,
                                         
                                         oh, I think that I'm gonna perform a fuck boy exorcism.
                                         
                                         This is what you're gonna give for me.
                                         
    
                                         Who you have here?
                                         
                                         That demon is coming out of the day, boy, today, boy,
                                         
                                         it's coming out, boy.
                                         
                                         Nostalgia's like, boy, boy,
                                         
                                         I'm gonna jerk, what's stupid?
                                         
                                         Who is this guy?
                                         
                                         It's the guy.
                                         
                                         I know, this is like an Uber.
                                         
    
                                         Just give it, yeah.
                                         
                                         Remember how Uber came in so hot, too?
                                         
                                         Remember, Uber started reading,
                                         
                                         like, oh yeah, but Jenna,
                                         
                                         she's like not even the first that you,
                                         
                                         she's like fake, Jenna is totally fake.
                                         
                                         Like okay, we're just saying hello, okay.
                                         
                                         It's like the first reunion jitter is like this,
                                         
    
                                         but yeah, he's, and he doesn't stop the entire time.
                                         
                                         He's really trying to make it happen.
                                         
                                         And it's like, bro, you can't make yourself
                                         
                                         to be this huge badass.
                                         
                                         You're kind of a stalker, okay?
                                         
                                         And we all know it.
                                         
                                         You just keep rehashing
                                         
                                         the scene of Taylor dropping him or not dropping him, but rejecting him over and over and then
                                         
    
                                         him just going, okay, I guess I'll just continue to repress this. And he's like, hey, JT,
                                         
                                         it's minute one of the reunion. And I do appreciate you coming in hot, but we're gonna get there.
                                         
                                         Don't worry. We're gonna get there. Don't worry, we're gonna get there.
                                         
                                         Well, hey, grandma, who's watching Republic?
                                         
                                         Can you access the security cameras on your phone?
                                         
                                         Because your eyes on that will be more eyes
                                         
                                         than around your show.
                                         
                                         Ha!
                                         
    
                                         And last, but certainly not least, Austin Grohl.
                                         
                                         How are you feeling about being on your day?
                                         
                                         And he's like, oh, Andy, I'm anxious to get this
                                         
                                         underway and hopefully move on.
                                         
                                         Like whether it's a bad direction,
                                         
                                         a good direction, like today it will be
                                         
                                         feared out also by the way.
                                         
                                         JT is a dweeb.
                                         
    
                                         Okay, just wanna say that, thanks.
                                         
                                         Well, I can tell you miss much Austin.
                                         
                                         You've aged a pop bar too, congratulations.
                                         
                                         Okay, serious.
                                         
                                         Who are your things Panda's are real?
                                         
                                         And this is when I was like, okay,
                                         
                                         this reunion is gonna offer us nothing.
                                         
                                         Okay, this is like the Costco sample people with me.
                                         
    
                                         It's like you're just cut off
                                         
                                         from anything good at this point, okay?
                                         
                                         So Craig's like, I think that Panda's are just bears
                                         
                                         and they look, I mean, people in barricostumes.
                                         
                                         It's like, okay, well, Captain from Grum says,
                                         
                                         Craig, what's the point of the tin how?
                                         
                                         Who are you trying to keep out of grade?
                                         
                                         Because the people, the voices, Naomi.
                                         
    
                                         It's like, I'm still here, Craig, you stupid idiot.
                                         
                                         Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Craig. He's stupid idiot.
                                         
                                         I just keep Naomi on my speaker phone just to remember, don't talk to your ex.
                                         
                                         What's wrong with my tinfoil?
                                         
                                         Andy's asking them, okay, what do you think of it?
                                         
                                         Tour of Falls, earth is flat? Two or false big footage real.
                                         
                                         This one's for Austin.
                                         
                                         True or false.
                                         
    
                                         If you look to the left, you're lying.
                                         
                                         Am I right?
                                         
                                         Remember that one everybody?
                                         
                                         I do not watch his show, but it sounds good.
                                         
                                         So Austin, were you lying when you look back at that scene with the restaurant?
                                         
                                         And he's like, uh, you know, I was,, Ben the truth little Andy. I was uh, yeah.
                                         
                                         Ben and the truth. And he's like, can we all agree that he wasn't bending the truth?
                                         
                                         He was lying, fuck boy, extricism, the power of fuck boys compels you.
                                         
    
                                         So then, um, everyone, and everyone's like, yeah, I think that everyone saw that.
                                         
                                         I mean, he set up, bent with the truth.
                                         
                                         Okay, great, thank you, liar, fuck boy, tall person.
                                         
                                         Also, by the way, Austin, I mean, Austin's really so terrible
                                         
                                         when Andy asked about like the, you look down
                                         
                                         into the right when you lie, Austin's response was,
                                         
                                         no, I mean, I think I can look in
                                         
                                         loss of directions and still lie.
                                         
    
                                         That's not, you shouldn't be saying that.
                                         
                                         Don't say that.
                                         
                                         That's not something to brag about, you dumbass.
                                         
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                                         So, um, Andy's like, all right.
                                         
                                         Well, when Madison wasn't going ham and Jamaica,
                                         
    
                                         she was, let's face it, Madison really didn't do a lot,
                                         
                                         but God, I want to fuck your husband.
                                         
                                         Tell me about him.
                                         
                                         What's his penis?
                                         
                                         It does he trim.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         How does your marriage work exactly?
                                         
                                         Which days is your hot husband away from you?
                                         
    
                                         Does he open to new experiences on those days?
                                         
                                         Well, I'll tell you this man, here's that what happened to me.
                                         
                                         I've been cooking, I've been cleaning, I've been getting houses ready for me.
                                         
                                         You know, I'm just real hard to stew work right at this point. You know, I would love to argue with y'all, but really, I just want to make cookies for my man
                                         
                                         who I love, if that's where a woman's place is. I can't wait that baby for me.
                                         
                                         And you know, he's gone for three to four days a week, and like then he's home for the rest,
                                         
                                         and I don't think anyone could put up with me for 24-7. I'm just a woman, you know, but he says he
                                         
                                         can. And then he's like,
                                         
    
                                         wow, well Austin, you got a lot of blowback for your comment about Breck that he was
                                         
                                         not as good looking as Madison Man about to be. Do, uh, care to address the pictures I
                                         
                                         have within my phone and then reassess. Does the amount of delusion in your brain come in pill form because if so, it would actually
                                         
                                         sell unlike your stupid stinky smell here?
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Whoa, I just coughed.
                                         
                                         Hey, Keto from diet says, the fact that Austin thinks he looks just as good as Brett
                                         
                                         shows that his self-awareness is zero.
                                         
    
                                         You know what?
                                         
                                         I think that's going to get get a ha ha ha for me.
                                         
                                         Well, we all say this, right, Matt Austin?
                                         
                                         And this isn't a dig Austin, okay?
                                         
                                         But he knew there was nothing to worry about.
                                         
                                         Musonson's a rabbit goes,
                                         
                                         oh, it's not not a dig.
                                         
                                         I mean, come on, she goes,
                                         
    
                                         okay, well, let's just say he's confident.
                                         
                                         We calm baby arm.
                                         
                                         It's got that kind of confidence.
                                         
                                         So then they talk about what a great step that he is
                                         
                                         and blah, blah, and I love Madison,
                                         
                                         but I'm bored with the normalcy.
                                         
                                         I really just need Madison coming out here swinging.
                                         
                                         Like everyone gets a normal season,
                                         
    
                                         I think that Madison was still one
                                         
                                         of the most entertaining people on this season,
                                         
                                         even though I'm generally bored by her at home stuff.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna water plants now, kind of storyline.
                                         
                                         But yeah, I need you to level somebody.
                                         
                                         Yeah, to the ground.
                                         
                                         So, thank you.
                                         
                                         Andy asks about that scene with Hudson,
                                         
    
                                         that heartbreaking scene where Hudson comes up,
                                         
                                         comes back and he's been beaten up.
                                         
                                         And Andy is like, so what happened after that?
                                         
                                         I just, well, you know, I tried to talk to the mom and the dad,
                                         
                                         but, you know, they weren't home.
                                         
                                         So I just spoke into the ring camera
                                         
                                         and let's just say she took care of it.
                                         
                                         Whoever these, yeah, here's what I said.
                                         
    
                                         I said, your kid is horrible,
                                         
                                         but just know this bitch.
                                         
                                         Austin Crowley, more pathetic.
                                         
                                         My ride.
                                         
                                         You know what, I looked at that ring camera,
                                         
                                         I said, if you ever come for me or my family again, this will cost you a lot
                                         
                                         By the way, you know those people are horrible because if they had any decency they would have released that phone
                                         
                                         But they would have released that ring camp footage. No shit. I mean, that's what we mean
                                         
    
                                         Listen here bitch
                                         
                                         I'm lighty over there the one with the perfect plants that have been watered just the right amount
                                         
                                         that aren't ground, but also weren't dry.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         You can probably smell fresh cookies
                                         
                                         and perfectly cooked steak coming over from our row house.
                                         
                                         Yeah, listen here and get ready to die.
                                         
                                         Cause the next time I see you in the Harris Teder,
                                         
    
                                         your ass is grass.
                                         
                                         Got it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Whoever you are, you awful people, release the footage.
                                         
                                         So, love a thing that Mass and did it really perfectly.
                                         
                                         And then Mass is hope, you know,
                                         
                                         and he asks about what's going on baby two
                                         
                                         when she says it's, you know, it's God's plan.
                                         
    
                                         And then he asks if there's been a change in Madison,
                                         
                                         if Anita says that like, it's been really refreshing.
                                         
                                         She has like, you know, she's like grown up more
                                         
                                         or whatever, so refreshing new vibe, all that fun stuff.
                                         
                                         And, and she's like, hey, Shap,
                                         
                                         I see your, your foot is actually rotating so quickly.
                                         
                                         It's generating electrical current, good for you,
                                         
                                         renewable resource.
                                         
    
                                         Do you ever see yourself settling down?
                                         
                                         What's going on with you?
                                         
                                         Wow, I just don't know that I'm bailed for it.
                                         
                                         I mean, it just seems like some sort, so much madade nimi, so much madade nimi,
                                         
                                         and he's like, you mean monogamy? What's the difference?
                                         
                                         To Shay, that's how you use that word Olivia.
                                         
                                         There you go. And she's like quid pro quo, Andy.
                                         
                                         Quid pro quo. So she's like, quid pro quo, Indy. Quid pro quo.
                                         
    
                                         So, let me just like,
                                         
                                         Shep, to be honest, when I had my son,
                                         
                                         I was like, oh my God, mom,
                                         
                                         I'm never gonna be able to leave again
                                         
                                         because I have to give the fucking asshole a bath every day.
                                         
                                         And then I learned to believe it's beautiful
                                         
                                         to have the man he giving him a bath every day.
                                         
                                         You could do it too, Shep.
                                         
    
                                         I swear to God, if I hear another,
                                         
                                         like, children MLM speech from someone, you know,
                                         
                                         like, oh, here it is, it is a cult like that.
                                         
                                         Like, look, I fully respect that raising children
                                         
                                         is probably the most rewarding thing you could do in your life.
                                         
                                         I get it, but I don't need the speech anymore.
                                         
                                         Like, how many times have you received the speech?
                                         
                                         Do you ever want to have a child? Really? Because I didn't want the speech anymore. Like how many times have you received the speech? Do you ever wanna have a child?
                                         
    
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         Cause I didn't wanna have a child.
                                         
                                         And then honestly, I wake up every day
                                         
                                         and I'm like, I'm like so glad I have a child.
                                         
                                         I'm happy for you.
                                         
                                         I genuinely am.
                                         
                                         Don't wanna child.
                                         
                                         I can barely take care of a plant.
                                         
    
                                         I know it's like CrossFit.
                                         
                                         It is CrossFit. We get it. It's like people who don't like it. I can time share. ThatFit. It is CrossFit.
                                         
                                         We get it.
                                         
                                         It's like people who don't like it.
                                         
                                         I'm sure that's all they can talk about.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So Craig is like, yeah, well, let's call it back.
                                         
                                         The happiest I've ever seen, that is I've ever seen shop is like when he was with Taylor,
                                         
    
                                         that's it.
                                         
                                         And he goes, yeah, I'm gonna copy. I'm gonna copy that.
                                         
                                         That was the happiest I've ever been in my entire life.
                                         
                                         When I had Taylor by my side, what a regret!
                                         
                                         I'm like, wow, she must already have a new boyfriend.
                                         
                                         Yeah, because you're really laying it on thick.
                                         
                                         Any other time you would have been like,
                                         
                                         oh no, if I say something like that,
                                         
    
                                         she's gonna come running back to me.
                                         
                                         But now you can be like, oh my gosh, pour me.
                                         
                                         I'm the victim so you can get laid by more people going,
                                         
                                         oh poor chef, every minute at the bar you're daddy got me.
                                         
                                         Oh wait, no, I wasn't talking about Taylor,
                                         
                                         and I was just saying, going to the Taylor was great.
                                         
                                         The first time I ever had clothes that fit me properly.
                                         
                                         So happy.
                                         
    
                                         So, and you should try and leave me out.
                                         
                                         Love us like, honestly.
                                         
                                         No offense.
                                         
                                         I used to never go to the tailor and then I learned
                                         
                                         that actually the tailor's the greatest thing.
                                         
                                         So you really should look into it.
                                         
                                         So you should try to live you out.
                                         
                                         I get it now.
                                         
    
                                         So Andy's like, sorry to me to interrupt.
                                         
                                         No, it was funny.
                                         
                                         I would join my team.
                                         
                                         You're dropping lots of funny Easter eggs.
                                         
                                         So Andy is like, well, hey Taylor, you're kind of,
                                         
                                         I mean, whoa, that was like I possessed by ship for a second there.
                                         
                                         You're kind of steering that ship right now.
                                         
                                         What's that all about?
                                         
    
                                         It's almost like you were dating him.
                                         
                                         And then you cheated on you.
                                         
                                         And then you guys broke up and you found someone else.
                                         
                                         And now he's acting like you were the love of his life
                                         
                                         and he misses you.
                                         
                                         Why are you sneering?
                                         
                                         But she wasn't, she wasn't.
                                         
                                         She wasn't.
                                         
    
                                         Which was so funny.
                                         
                                         She looked like she was about to cry.
                                         
                                         I mean, first of all, she came on here blirri-eyed.
                                         
                                         She looks like she was sobbing right before they started shooting this, which maybe she
                                         
                                         was.
                                         
                                         You know, who knows.
                                         
                                         But her eyes are really watery anyway, but she looks like she's about to start sobbing
                                         
                                         because when he says that, she gives like a little,
                                         
    
                                         huh?
                                         
                                         Why are you smearing?
                                         
                                         But to be fair,
                                         
                                         she always looks like that.
                                         
                                         She always looks like she's about to sob.
                                         
                                         She does.
                                         
                                         I know, I put,
                                         
                                         but her face shows nothing.
                                         
    
                                         So who really knows, you know,
                                         
                                         a smear, a cry?
                                         
                                         So she's like,
                                         
                                         well, I'm really happy where we are in our relationship.
                                         
                                         Broken up.
                                         
                                         Yeah, friends.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         Well, Crab Tree from Evelyn says,
                                         
    
                                         why did Austin call Madison a born housewife?
                                         
                                         Is it because she's boring
                                         
                                         and when she's doing scenes at home being a housewife?
                                         
                                         I was just like, in that moment in Jamaica, I was drunk,
                                         
                                         and like quite literally everything was going south for me,
                                         
                                         and like that's something to easily cop to and I apologize because
                                         
                                         Deflection on my part for sure for sure
                                         
                                         Austin your eyeballs are looking in the dad and to the right are you really apologizing?
                                         
    
                                         I'm absolutely nether up to the left and I'm seeing the same things. So yes, I am being totally sincere right now
                                         
                                         He's just so full of lies. I mean, so really it just slipped out.
                                         
                                         You said it twice.
                                         
                                         You said it in two scenes.
                                         
                                         That was a totally pre-rehearsed,
                                         
                                         real housewives' discs that you just held onto
                                         
                                         and just kept saying to make sure it got in the act.
                                         
                                         So she's like, oh yeah, well at least,
                                         
    
                                         you gotta find somebody to beat your wife
                                         
                                         in the first place, steeping.
                                         
                                         And Andy's like, okay, so I'm obsessed with you, Madison,
                                         
                                         basically, oh, JT is speaking of obsessed.
                                         
                                         And JT is like, a couple of weeks ago, he was crying
                                         
                                         and calling a remaster, and now she's a board housewife.
                                         
                                         I mean, come on, I mean, this is how we treat women.
                                         
                                         I mean, she can do no right for him.
                                         
    
                                         He harasses her no matter what.
                                         
                                         He's the patriarchy in a velvet jacket, Ami. That's what I say. This is how we treat women. I mean, she can do no right for him. He harasses her no matter what.
                                         
                                         He's the patriarchy in a velvet jacket, Amy.
                                         
                                         That's what I say.
                                         
                                         And then he goes, I think,
                                         
                                         you know what, J.C., you couldn't possibly understand
                                         
                                         the relationship that Mass and I have.
                                         
                                         You couldn't possibly.
                                         
    
                                         And J.C. goes, oh, I think she's amazing.
                                         
                                         And her glow up compared to your glow down
                                         
                                         is I caught Nick.
                                         
                                         I was like, oh, now you're just pandering to us.
                                         
                                         You're just pandering to us, Gays, aren't you? Now, he is always pandering. He's such a tryhard.
                                         
                                         I can't end a glow down just quite down over there. Fucking Thomas Ravamell pants.
                                         
                                         So he's in the white. He's even in the southern charm white
                                         
                                         Capri mean. Well, his are not their like Cap priest they're like skin tight silky
                                         
    
                                         comprens. So I guess he's got his own twist on him that you the Thomas pants.
                                         
                                         I was like JT you were quite literally obsessed with me. It's so weird.
                                         
                                         He was a coward. So you are literally cowardice kiss my ring.
                                         
                                         Cobbid us. Cobbid us your cowardice.
                                         
                                         Who? Who? The Emperor comedies? He was slain by narcissists.
                                         
                                         His reign is commonly thought to mark the end
                                         
                                         of a golden age of peace and prosperity
                                         
                                         in the history of the Roman Empire.
                                         
    
                                         Okay, nailed it.
                                         
                                         Why are they all bringing up Emperor's today?
                                         
                                         Well, Sep did it too before the show.
                                         
                                         You know, this is a straight guy thing.
                                         
                                         The Roman Empire, although Napoleon is not part of that,
                                         
                                         but J.T. is like, yeah, remember?
                                         
                                         He hates glitter.
                                         
                                         Remember in the movie Gladiator?
                                         
    
                                         Thumbs down, anyone?
                                         
                                         I mean, we're gonna set Voldemort
                                         
                                         in that big bird costume over there and he's like,
                                         
                                         whoa, whoa, whoa, god, you're naming too many characters.
                                         
                                         What are you gonna do next?
                                         
                                         Name someone from 300?
                                         
                                         Well, this is Sparta and Sparta had a great glow up.
                                         
                                         That's what I'm gonna say about it.
                                         
    
                                         I like that Ami can't even help kind of mocking JT2.
                                         
                                         He's like, God, you're an idiot. Geez. It is a lot. And I was like, you can't, you just can't help yourself,
                                         
                                         can you? Nour. Like, you just, you just talk to yourself, talk. Don't you, Nour. And he's like,
                                         
                                         I'm just trying to illuminate you for who you are. And I'm going to do it all day long.
                                         
                                         for who you are and I'm gonna do it all day long. So now there's like a break and Craig is like, dude, I wanted to wear this, I'm in pink.
                                         
                                         And JT's like, oh, hey, Hi, bro, you're gonna look good in anything.
                                         
                                         You're a regular Miranda priestly.
                                         
                                         And now that I've sort of have a crush on you, you know, it's not lost on me.
                                         
    
                                         I got a crush on you in Austin's watching and he's like, oh.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he's mad. He's like, well, Craig just thinks he's so funny.
                                         
                                         I like he thinks that guy's so funny.
                                         
                                         Like, wow, you're just like so, and JT is like just staring up at him like,
                                         
                                         why are you so high up? And hilarious.
                                         
                                         So then, let's see. So Andy's like, we're back.
                                         
                                         So this season, Craig did the impossible.
                                         
                                         He's a man in Charleston who actually wants to settle down.
                                         
    
                                         But some people thought he made his girlfriend find up be on the same page.
                                         
                                         Damn it! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa This year Craig did the impossible.
                                         
                                         He walked by a wall without jamming a butter knife
                                         
                                         into it.
                                         
                                         Good job, Craig.
                                         
                                         So now they're talking about Craig.
                                         
                                         Does he have sexual fetishes?
                                         
                                         Because they all hear he's into like SNM.
                                         
    
                                         And he's like, I'm whatever girls are into it.
                                         
                                         Love goes, yeah, I've heard it from your access.
                                         
                                         I'm like Naomi, she goes, access, like Naomi.
                                         
                                         This is why.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's not really SNM.
                                         
                                         If Naomi just like put up the things to try and trip crack.
                                         
                                         It's not SNM.
                                         
                                         It's not SNM.
                                         
    
                                         If Naomi was literally tying Craig's hands behind his back,
                                         
                                         so he would stop touching the sewing machine.
                                         
                                         Naomi's like, I cut his breaks. It's S&M.
                                         
                                         I got off.
                                         
                                         Requested in Dreamtree.
                                         
                                         I got off on it.
                                         
                                         My thrill comes from the female's joy because it's like not too hard to make a guy happy.
                                         
                                         It takes three minutes and he's like, wow, so you're now kind of accessing something.
                                         
    
                                         I'm just remembering right now.
                                         
                                         I definitely have not been championing at the bit
                                         
                                         to bring this up the entire reunion.
                                         
                                         Hey, remember that conversation you had on the bus?
                                         
                                         I think it had something to do with Shep singing.
                                         
                                         He doesn't let other girls finish,
                                         
                                         and he doesn't care about it either.
                                         
                                         So he's like, Taylor, how many times did you come?
                                         
    
                                         And Taylor's like, well, I can count all the time
                                         
                                         to eye climax on one hand.
                                         
                                         What's it to the same hand that you needed
                                         
                                         to use to master make a chef good and make you come?
                                         
                                         God, I love the segment.
                                         
                                         And she's like, huh?
                                         
                                         And, and chef is like, hey, why did you, why did you want to get back together with like, huh? And she's like, hey, why did you,
                                         
                                         why did you want to get back together with me, Taylor?
                                         
    
                                         A lifetime of unsatisfaction?
                                         
                                         And she's like, I love he goes,
                                         
                                         I'm sure it's frustrating for women
                                         
                                         who have trouble getting there.
                                         
                                         And I know that there's a lot of them.
                                         
                                         I just wish it were more easy for you guys
                                         
                                         as it is for the men.
                                         
                                         And Craig's like, that's just an excuse they tell you stupid.
                                         
    
                                         If you can't figure out the puzzle and shut your mouth,
                                         
                                         well, my tongue gets tired, man.
                                         
                                         It's really hard.
                                         
                                         I'm not like Austin.
                                         
                                         OK, I don't have a tongue that looks like the
                                         
                                         Verizano Nero's bridge.
                                         
                                         I have to say I'm impressed that Shep gives Oral, or do you think his tongue is tired
                                         
                                         from wagging with excuses?
                                         
    
                                         I don't know, because I would picture him not being an Oral giver like he said.
                                         
                                         No, it doesn't.
                                         
                                         Two selfish for that.
                                         
                                         So I'm impressed if that's what he means.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I was, I would not have thought about that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I would not have, I should say I would not have expected that from Shep either.
                                         
                                         Well, okay, so Craig is, I'm sorry,
                                         
                                         I was looking at my ass.
                                         
    
                                         I was thinking about it for a moment.
                                         
                                         So they asked Craig about his pillow business.
                                         
                                         He's like, yeah, we're eight fingers now.
                                         
                                         So we're in Krugger stores and we have 30 employees.
                                         
                                         Guess what they have? Health insurance guys.
                                         
                                         So yeah, it's,
                                         
                                         it's,
                                         
                                         yeah, it's been fun.
                                         
    
                                         It's been fun.
                                         
                                         They all had to sign the contract with the clause
                                         
                                         that says, if you work for sewing down South,
                                         
                                         you can't be friend with your exes.
                                         
                                         And like 90% of this cast who have never been employees
                                         
                                         with healthcare are like I mean I guess
                                         
                                         I don't really know what does that what that means do they not have parents are they orphans?
                                         
                                         Why would they help be working care? What's like isn't that just something that you get from your parents?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         So is that where so their dad just answers the phone and pays the bill? Is that, like, what is, what's an HMO?
                                         
                                         Is that a, is that a brand?
                                         
                                         Not in my town.
                                         
                                         I'll take that much.
                                         
                                         Not in my town.
                                         
                                         So Andy's like, okay, um, dying from a loan says, can we just all admit that page is
                                         
                                         never moving the jargon?
                                         
    
                                         Well, there you go.
                                         
                                         Who thinks that Paige is actually
                                         
                                         going to move to this dump?
                                         
                                         And Austin Madison, Olivia raised her hands,
                                         
                                         and he looks at Madison, like Marilyn Monroe, don't lie to me.
                                         
                                         And she's like, well, I mean, I don't think full time,
                                         
                                         but I think she'll keep coming.
                                         
                                         And Austin's like, well, maybe when they have kids,
                                         
    
                                         because they can transition where they just have kids,
                                         
                                         and you can still live a life in New York.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's so easy.
                                         
                                         Which, you know, you can't.
                                         
                                         What is, is that true?
                                         
                                         You can just have kids and then live part-time in New York.
                                         
                                         I don't think so.
                                         
                                         So Andy is, well, look, Craig is ultimately going to sell his company.
                                         
    
                                         That's just the way it goes.
                                         
                                         And once he sells that company, he doesn't have to be tied to the store. The issue is they are both in different franchises
                                         
                                         that are geographically tied to locations. So that is going to be, that's the real issue.
                                         
                                         So Andy, he's like, ship, we were talking about conspiracy theories. We forgot to mention
                                         
                                         your own personal one. You're not sure the page exists because she's never around, she hates you so much.
                                         
                                         So, Shep is like, yeah, of course, it's really, really hard,
                                         
                                         it's really, really hard to have a conversation,
                                         
                                         a relationship on camera, you know,
                                         
    
                                         that's it, put a lot of strain on me and Taylor.
                                         
                                         And Andy's like, so you think you got off scotties.
                                         
                                         So it wasn't that you were an asshole.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's not that you were an asshole
                                         
                                         is that commenters on Instagram were telling Taylor that you were an asshole. Yeah, it's not that you were an asshole is that commenters on Instagram were telling Taylor
                                         
                                         that you were an asshole.
                                         
                                         And that's what got you in the hands.
                                         
                                         It turns out to be the truth.
                                         
    
                                         That is really what he thinks.
                                         
                                         It is.
                                         
                                         He's not someone who turns out believes
                                         
                                         in a lot of personal agency and he gets called out on it.
                                         
                                         So chef is like, yeah, well, you know, Craig is smart.
                                         
                                         LOL, he's strategic in that manner.
                                         
                                         LOL again. You know, and as Napoleon says, Craig is smart. Oh, LOL. He's strategic in that manner. LOL again.
                                         
                                         You know, and as Napoleon says,
                                         
    
                                         when you're put under a white light
                                         
                                         and people start picking up loose threads,
                                         
                                         things can go really sideways.
                                         
                                         And he's like, so Craig,
                                         
                                         is that what you're doing is keeping page off camera
                                         
                                         to not hurt your relationship?
                                         
                                         And he's like, well, you know, I'm not gonna lie.
                                         
                                         There have been times when Paige went up to her own bedroom
                                         
    
                                         in my house, which I also have,
                                         
                                         which was built by people, possibly with insurance,
                                         
                                         but those were employees too.
                                         
                                         And, for a couple of years talking about,
                                         
                                         you guys know I'm rich, right?
                                         
                                         I don't clean.
                                         
                                         So, but yeah, Paige hates these people.
                                         
                                         So, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And, you know, like, have there been a few times,
                                         
                                         like, you know, where like
                                         
                                         pages want to go upstairs and be like, I don't want to like hang out with the group. Like,
                                         
                                         yeah. So I don't know if he actually, she says that, he says that right now. I got lost.
                                         
                                         But chef is like saying, like Andy's like, Chef basically says, if it weren't for the
                                         
                                         show, he and he and Taylor would probably have been
                                         
                                         married right now, which I don't believe whatsoever.
                                         
                                         Cameras are no cameras.
                                         
    
                                         It would not have, we all know this.
                                         
                                         I'm not, this is not breaking news me saying this, breaking news.
                                         
                                         But like, I, well Craig's like, you guys broke up because of infidelity.
                                         
                                         So you think that without cameras that wouldn't have happened and he goes, no, we would
                                         
                                         be married. There would be nobody to tell, that wouldn't have happened and he goes, no, we would be married.
                                         
                                         There would be nobody to tell her that I cheated on her.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         I mean, my God, so this fucking guy,
                                         
    
                                         he has not changed at all.
                                         
                                         He is the worst.
                                         
                                         And everyone's like, wow.
                                         
                                         And love goes,
                                         
                                         um, did you just say that?
                                         
                                         And he goes, yeah, cause you know,
                                         
                                         I wouldn't be as distracted.
                                         
                                         I would be a different person.
                                         
    
                                         I'd be like, this is a person I care about.
                                         
                                         And I can firmly abuse her and stop on eggs and fields.
                                         
                                         And that's it.
                                         
                                         She's mine.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I was like, think of all the camp games you could play where you could yell at her
                                         
                                         in the middle of it.
                                         
                                         So I'm kind of like, yeah, it's just like so tough to be with a person that, you know,
                                         
                                         is saying they're supposed to be together and they're still love.
                                         
    
                                         It's like, I'd be like, why don't we fix this?"
                                         
                                         And she was like, all I'll say is that she was right about a lot of things in her analysis
                                         
                                         of me and I kind of realized a lot of things here recently that we will continue to talk
                                         
                                         about.
                                         
                                         That's coming up later on Shepp's life.
                                         
                                         I just want everybody to know before I go back to a life of hanging on my own bar where
                                         
                                         people are already flirting with me for drinks. I'm a very sad person who got dumped.
                                         
                                         So um, Andy's like, so Taylor, you look like you've got, I don't know, can anyone explain what Taylor's face is doing?
                                         
    
                                         I'm not sure if it's moving or if the shrooms are kicking in Taylor.
                                         
                                         Someone take her balls, please.
                                         
                                         This season, Taylor was singled, unfettered, unfiltered, and by all accounts, a huge disaster.
                                         
                                         disaster. But was this newly independent woman who seemed to really love big yellow yarni turtle next wetters, fought in her voice or losing her matters. And his question to her is all this time
                                         
                                         it passed since you in like a good chunk of time it passed since you and shutke Up. So why were you all this sudden upset when you saw him?
                                         
                                         And she's like, well, he was like traveling.
                                         
                                         So it was like out of sight and out of mind.
                                         
                                         But then when he came back to Charleston
                                         
    
                                         and cameras turned back on,
                                         
                                         I started like pretending to cry more, you know?
                                         
                                         Mm-hmm.
                                         
                                         I thought I was making good move steps forward,
                                         
                                         but I had, and then Andy asked about,
                                         
                                         he goes, the Dildo gift had a lot of viewers talking.
                                         
                                         I'm like, I guarantee no one was talking
                                         
                                         about the Dildo gifts, but anyway.
                                         
    
                                         So basically, someone wrote in saying,
                                         
                                         like, I've heard of champagne flutes,
                                         
                                         but Dildo's not classy.
                                         
                                         I love to think of the person who was like,
                                         
                                         I am so incensed by that Dildo in the very first episode at this party that I am going
                                         
                                         to have to write in the letter, be like, not classy with that Dildo at the Southern
                                         
                                         term party.
                                         
                                         Sussan, Madison's like, well, I mean, maybe if he was my bachelor at her same, but not
                                         
    
                                         my first time being my husband, I mean, he does that, okay? But could we put the Dildo and ship Smath real quick? Because he's already starting to my husband. I mean he test had okay, but could we put a deal down ship smath real quick?
                                         
                                         Cuz he's already starting to bother me
                                         
                                         I mean he told me to shut up to everyone here
                                         
                                         And I didn't talk about it right now, but he did and he was not nice and she's like oh wow
                                         
                                         I can't believe to you of all people
                                         
                                         Correcting nice room is I'm gonna shake my ankle at you
                                         
                                         Has Napoleon Bonaparte said, takes one to no one, Bonjour.
                                         
                                         So Andy is like, all right,
                                         
    
                                         well, I want to move on to something else
                                         
                                         that the audience vaguely cares about
                                         
                                         instead of the still-do thing.
                                         
                                         And we're obviously going to talk about your relationship
                                         
                                         with Austin and Olivia later,
                                         
                                         but first the group is clearly very prone,
                                         
                                         nude photos and sex thing,
                                         
                                         but one of the biggest bombshells this season
                                         
    
                                         was a risque photo that Taylor said
                                         
                                         We still don't have a human resources here, right? Okay, no, okay, let's go on with this
                                         
                                         Okay, go ahead and answer Taylor. So oh my god. That's such a great question
                                         
                                         Well, here's what happened. I heard this Shep and Whitney were gallivanting around town
                                         
                                         and then like they were bringing women back to Patricia's house and then I was petty and I was weak.
                                         
                                         So I texted Whitney like, so this is what you're looking for. I hope you're having fun
                                         
                                         and put like two middle fingers up and he's like, oh, so you were doing to spite chef. That's fun. I don't like how you were ashamed about it.
                                         
                                         I don't like it. Okay. And someone who's basically sent his
                                         
    
                                         dick to many, many people, completely acceptable. Okay.
                                         
                                         It's not shame Taylor. Um, this, and by the way, during all this
                                         
                                         JT's like looking at the ceiling, I'm like, Oh, I can't, I
                                         
                                         can't bear to hear my precious buttercup
                                         
                                         Taylor being savage like this.
                                         
                                         I'm not shaming Taylor for her nude photo.
                                         
                                         I do think it's like, I'm shaming her
                                         
                                         for her strange use of pettiness.
                                         
    
                                         Like, why are, if they're going out to get to find girls,
                                         
                                         why are you sending a nude photo to them?
                                         
                                         Like why? Why, any photo you sending a nude photo to them? Like why?
                                         
                                         Why?
                                         
                                         Any photo?
                                         
                                         Why you get, like don't do this.
                                         
                                         Like this is just bad, this is bad pettiness.
                                         
                                         This is just like not,
                                         
    
                                         and if it's like not useful pettiness,
                                         
                                         it's like you can be pettiness better.
                                         
                                         It's sad, desperate.
                                         
                                         You know, sad and desperate.
                                         
                                         But you know, as we found that later in the season
                                         
                                         when she was saying,
                                         
                                         I just texted Austin all that stuff about
                                         
                                         wanting, or I just texted Austin, you want me to come over or no. So whatever, whenever
                                         
    
                                         she was caught flirting with Austin, she's like, I was just doing that to make Shep Mad,
                                         
                                         you know. So she's just like begging for the attention and they're just not giving it
                                         
                                         to her and said they're passing around the picture and laughing at her. And it's just
                                         
                                         like, I mean, no matter how much you don't like Taylor, which I know a lot of people really hate Taylor.
                                         
                                         That was gross. The past around to the photo.
                                         
                                         Those are nudes passed around while everybody's laughing, especially by your boss.
                                         
                                         Yeah, well, the thing is that Whitney should have had the same reaction of us, which is like,
                                         
                                         this is just kind of like sad. Like, she's definitely spiraling. This is sad.
                                         
    
                                         Like, how could, like, if someone, if someone sent me a,
                                         
                                         I'm not gonna show, I'm not gonna show around dudes anyway.
                                         
                                         But like if someone sends me a need
                                         
                                         with her clearly spiraling, like could you imagine,
                                         
                                         like just be like, oh my God, look at this new,
                                         
                                         she sent me, ooh, no.
                                         
                                         So Andy's like, the Nina, how do you feel
                                         
                                         when people shamed your dog Charles
                                         
    
                                         because you and Madison shamed her over the nude photo?
                                         
                                         Charles really took a beating.
                                         
                                         We really, people were really need the Charles Vanita.
                                         
                                         And she's like, I don't remember that.
                                         
                                         He's like, well, I just wanted to bring up
                                         
                                         90% of your storylines with Charles and a sweater.
                                         
                                         So you're welcome.
                                         
                                         Well, we weren't shaming her for the nude photo.
                                         
    
                                         We were shaming her for sending a nude photo
                                         
                                         to another friend in the group. And Matt is like, and I haven't met it, then I've sent nude photos.
                                         
                                         Okay, if I live in Iraq, I am a slut.
                                         
                                         I'm a capital S slut.
                                         
                                         Listen, you don't back A-Rod with Turtle Necks, okay?
                                         
                                         You gotta show the whole thing, okay?
                                         
                                         I'm not opposed to a nude.
                                         
                                         And Craig's like, yeah, well, it opened a new kind of worms because we were dealing like with you
                                         
    
                                         and the Austin thing already.
                                         
                                         And then there was like a new picture.
                                         
                                         And Madison's like, but also, that was Whitney's girlfriend that told Patricia.
                                         
                                         It wasn't, you know, Whitney wasn't showing it around to people.
                                         
                                         It's just that the girlfriend told Patricia.
                                         
                                         And he's like, oh, huh?
                                         
                                         Wait, girlfriend.
                                         
                                         This is girlfriend living Canada. And is her name George?
                                         
    
                                         Literally never heard that term before.
                                         
                                         Georgina. And everyone's like, yeah, well, huh, girlfriend. So
                                         
                                         then like, the end is like, any then asked Taylor if you hooked up
                                         
                                         with with, if she hooked up with Whitney and she's like,
                                         
                                         absolutely not. And she's like, you know, way after the fact,
                                         
                                         Whitney was like, you know, I know you and love you
                                         
                                         and I have love for Taylor and I think she's in over her head.
                                         
                                         And this is a byproduct of that.
                                         
    
                                         And I said, yes, that's exactly what it is.
                                         
                                         Well, I hated when you used to like date
                                         
                                         and she'd be excited to send you a naked photo
                                         
                                         and you'd tell her not to bro.
                                         
                                         My god, this is so this is such a shept thing to say to you. He's like,
                                         
                                         well, yeah, but it's because I'm weird about that. I don't want my girlfriend or anybody.
                                         
                                         I'm dating to be, you know, like and and because you hold them to a different standard and he goes,
                                         
                                         yeah, I kind of like to see him
                                         
    
                                         that way like Caligula said I want to sing the kitchen or in the bedroom and 30 seconds to shoot
                                         
                                         before I eat my buckshot facet you know yeah um yeah chef is basically like don't worry I will
                                         
                                         vary politely but clearly sluts shame not shame, nude for this situation.
                                         
                                         So he's like, you can be a someone, you're not my girlfriend.
                                         
                                         How about that?
                                         
                                         And so Madison's like, oh yes, you just like, nude's from Stranger's the event.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         And they all laugh, but that is exactly what it is.
                                         
    
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         So Craig is saying, like, so JT, why are you having an puff?
                                         
                                         And JT is literally sitting there like in his little white pants like.
                                         
                                         Oh my God, even your plugs are shaking dude.
                                         
                                         I'm like calm down over there.
                                         
                                         Well I just can't believe that Chef doesn't like receiving news and can't make a girl come
                                         
                                         as a chef. It's like, oh all right. Well, you just can't believe that Chef doesn't like receiving news and can't make a girl come. And so Chef is like, oh, all right, well,
                                         
                                         you know what, let me put together a list
                                         
    
                                         of satisfied customers, JT, and repeat customers.
                                         
                                         And then he's like, okay, well at JT's dinner,
                                         
                                         why did you go after Madison, by the way,
                                         
                                         instead of Whitney, considering he's the one
                                         
                                         who showed everyone Taylor?
                                         
                                         And she says, no, I was addressing Whitney
                                         
                                         and the mass and stepped in.
                                         
                                         Okay, and by the way, you can't even see anything.
                                         
    
                                         It's not even an explicit photo.
                                         
                                         And that was like, actually,
                                         
                                         I don't wanna throw you under the bus,
                                         
                                         but I also saw this photo.
                                         
                                         And I also showed it to everyone who works at Republic
                                         
                                         and we all agreed, we can see a lot.
                                         
                                         We actually had it blown up and put on the lit sign
                                         
                                         that says like happy batch party.
                                         
    
                                         It was really popular actually.
                                         
                                         Oh, she tried to have sex with it.
                                         
                                         And she's like,
                                         
                                         it's like, well then if you saw, then you know
                                         
                                         that it was just like a photo with me,
                                         
                                         and it said come one, come all,
                                         
                                         and then there was a text, it was like, is this what you're looking for?
                                         
                                         And that's it.
                                         
    
                                         And she's like, no, you know, I remember because I was bathing my son
                                         
                                         thinking, God, this is joyful.
                                         
                                         What a joyful time for me.
                                         
                                         And I almost dropped my phone in the bathtub as I read the whole thread.
                                         
                                         It was a lot.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         I mean, yikes, guys, even Leva saw it.
                                         
                                         Nobody talks to Leva.
                                         
    
                                         This is terrible with me.
                                         
                                         Did you post it on like the fucking community Facebook?
                                         
                                         Like how did Leva see it?
                                         
                                         Nobody speaks to Leva.
                                         
                                         I don't even know why she's here.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and Leva says, yeah, you were saying things
                                         
                                         like come fuck me a Nashville.
                                         
                                         And she was like, what?
                                         
    
                                         When was I ever in Nashville? And he was like, what? When was I ever in Nashville?
                                         
                                         And he's like, oh, now this was believable because Taylor looked like what?
                                         
                                         Absolutely not.
                                         
                                         You know, because when she lies, she's like, well, not, but this one,
                                         
                                         she's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
                                         
                                         I'm not.
                                         
                                         I was one was I in Nashville, but I just need to remind everybody.
                                         
                                         Taylor is from Asheville.
                                         
    
                                         So that could have just been a mess.
                                         
                                         I was thinking that too, that's funny.
                                         
                                         So because you know, I opened the internet and was like, Taylor and Green in Nashville.
                                         
                                         Of course, I was like, when was she in Nashville?
                                         
                                         I'm going to put this date with that date and I'm going to paint some booting some.
                                         
                                         But then it reminded me that she's from ask
                                         
                                         So, uh, and it's like so were there multiple DMs that are multiple sessions and she was like I don't remember
                                         
                                         She's like I deleted every message with Whitney and love it's like well, it was there was a lot of like Whitney going
                                         
    
                                         All the well and him being like is this you and you're like it's a girl who you who your friend used to stick as dick in. By the way, that has a very broad description of many people who've been on the show and
                                         
                                         probably who have not been on this show.
                                         
                                         Let's be honest.
                                         
                                         Also, it just got so much sadder because Whitney didn't even have her name in his phone.
                                         
                                         He had to ask who it was.
                                         
                                         She had to like give him clues and she's on his show.
                                         
                                         He's like, me that, and it is his show. He's like, me that and it is his show. Maybe is the creator and producer of this show. I mean, it's just
                                         
                                         are you a Russ Myers fan? So Leva is like, she's like, she's like, you know, I asked
                                         
    
                                         him why he was showing the guys and he was like, well, I wasn't trying to, but I was embarrassed.
                                         
                                         Um, you got it. Listen, you got to, you can't do that with but I was embarrassed. You got it.
                                         
                                         Listen, you got it.
                                         
                                         You can't do that with life.
                                         
                                         And Craig's like, no, he was hammered
                                         
                                         and he was bragging about it.
                                         
                                         I mean, yeah, too bad Whitney's not here again
                                         
                                         because he's the bad guy in the situation.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, except for the fact that he
                                         
                                         were like texting one of his friends
                                         
                                         so it wasn't cool either, but.
                                         
                                         And she's like, okay, Jesus.
                                         
                                         Hi, hi.
                                         
                                         I'm JT. Hi, I want to speak up.
                                         
                                         Okay, I've been divorced.
                                         
                                         And there are some graces that needs to be given
                                         
    
                                         to pretty ladies to remind you of a fish on a lawn.
                                         
                                         Okay, so if Taylor, by the way,
                                         
                                         if you want to send me nudes, don't worry.
                                         
                                         I will be very discreet about them.
                                         
                                         So feel free to use my number if you need to.
                                         
                                         Okay, just gonna put that out there.
                                         
                                         Put that out there to the world.
                                         
                                         So I'd just like to be the one to stand for women
                                         
    
                                         because women do not understand picture-sending.
                                         
                                         And I think we all need to understand
                                         
                                         that women are just too stupid to really know
                                         
                                         what they're doing.
                                         
                                         So can we just give women a grace, some grace already?
                                         
                                         You know, here's what I say, let women vote.
                                         
                                         In the great words of Tom Cruise in Magnolia,
                                         
                                         let the ladies vote. Am I right?
                                         
    
                                         Uh, is that an emperor?
                                         
                                         Close enough, Andy. Close enough.
                                         
                                         So Olivia's like, you know what?
                                         
                                         You cannot put that on shut and what she did.
                                         
                                         And I'm so tired of you saying that, JT.
                                         
                                         And she's like, I made a mistake.
                                         
                                         I would never say I did this because of Shep.
                                         
                                         I'm very capable of my own actions,
                                         
    
                                         even though I've said the whole season
                                         
                                         I was doing it to get back at Shep.
                                         
                                         But still.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's like, Shep, Shep,
                                         
                                         you see that a lot of guilt about Taylor's behavior.
                                         
                                         Well, I brought her into this crazy world.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and she has, has she changed?
                                         
                                         Well, not because the show, but the breakup.
                                         
    
                                         It cranks like you're talking to her, like she's a child.
                                         
                                         Like to say, you're responsible for it.
                                         
                                         30-year-olds actions is kind of conceited.
                                         
                                         I wish that they'd put an equip of page just being like, cheer for you. for a 30 year old's actions is kind of conceited.
                                         
                                         I wish that they'd put an equip of page just being like, cheer for you.
                                         
                                         All right, Craig, you need to have one more bite
                                         
                                         when you're not leaving the table.
                                         
                                         Chew-tow.
                                         
    
                                         Craig, that's a shelf or sun, jeez.
                                         
                                         Chew-tow.
                                         
                                         Where are your swimmies?
                                         
                                         So Andy's like, okay, so male from box money says,
                                         
                                         Chef, taking the blame for Taylor's actions is robbing her of her agency,
                                         
                                         Snapple, feminism flavored, what say you, Chef?
                                         
                                         And Chef's like, um, I take great pride in her development.
                                         
                                         She's God.
                                         
    
                                         She is not, she's not a, she's not an iOS platform.
                                         
                                         So Andy is like,
                                         
                                         uh, that's not the point.
                                         
                                         You actually just made it.
                                         
                                         It's how much worse you're right now.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         Okay, Taylor, do you want to see what the point is?
                                         
                                         Can you, can you stop scowling for a moment?
                                         
    
                                         And she's like, um, okay, you can take responsibility,
                                         
                                         you can't take responsibility for how I'm acting.
                                         
                                         I'm, I'm responsible for how I'm acting. I'm responsible for how I'm acting.
                                         
                                         Well listen, I'm just empathetic, sympathetic, like Emperor Shoka, to do good is difficult.
                                         
                                         One who does good first does something hard to do, like making a woman come.
                                         
                                         I hope I, oh my gosh, I just came. I hope you're done. I'm going to sleep. Good night.
                                         
                                         Oh my gosh, I just came. I hope you're done.
                                         
                                         I'm going to sleep.
                                         
    
                                         Good night.
                                         
                                         Of course.
                                         
                                         Of course.
                                         
                                         Of course.
                                         
                                         Of course.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         Well, it happened.
                                         
                                         Your news, Taylor.
                                         
    
                                         You have a new boyfriend.
                                         
                                         Is he real?
                                         
                                         Yeah, he's great.
                                         
                                         He is TJ's roommate and his name is Gaston.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         I died.
                                         
                                         He's like, who's CJ from Southern hospitality?
                                         
                                         What's that?
                                         
    
                                         There's another show on your channel.
                                         
                                         Not familiar, so is he the first person you've dated
                                         
                                         to the chef?
                                         
                                         What's so great about him?
                                         
                                         I only date cartoonishly show of anistic man, Andy.
                                         
                                         Yes, no.
                                         
                                         So chef has met Gaston before.
                                         
                                         They met for like five minutes and he said,
                                         
    
                                         yeah, well, I met him at Provocon and I said, I wish you all the best. She's the best and she's
                                         
                                         good for you. And if she goes missing in my castle for a certain number of weeks, just know
                                         
                                         I'm doing my best to reverse the curse.
                                         
                                         What am I supposed to do about it?
                                         
                                         How do really good conversation with him?
                                         
                                         I said, I wish you well, buddy.
                                         
                                         And then I walked ten steps and turned around and finger-gunned him to death.
                                         
                                         So I was like, well, that's not what I heard.
                                         
    
                                         Rod Rigo told me a provocon that you guys were fighting.
                                         
                                         And she goes, y'all, I did hear that I greatly upset Taylor Bravo Con
                                         
                                         apparently according to what people say.
                                         
                                         So Andy's like, did he upset you at Bravo Con
                                         
                                         and Taylor's like, well, Gaston was upset
                                         
                                         that Shep came up to me, smacked my ass at the bar
                                         
                                         and then I didn't know how to react
                                         
                                         because my ex is meeting my current boyfriend for the first time and
                                         
    
                                         Gaston said listen here a little lady
                                         
                                         No one slick is Gaston no one's quick is Gaston and no one's neck is incredibly thick as Gaston
                                         
                                         You better take care of this or Gaston out
                                         
                                         I don't remember any of this actually
                                         
                                         It is a did you slap her in the ass?
                                         
                                         He's like, well, Andy, that's not how I say hello to Taylor. My chosen method is to take her
                                         
                                         by the shoulders and put her up against the wall and be like, hi! Yeah, I don't want to smack her
                                         
                                         as to say hello. That's how I say hello to the cleaning lady. What the lady at the bank?
                                         
    
                                         Or that one waitress at Republic?
                                         
                                         Oh God.
                                         
                                         So Andy's like, well, where are you drunk, Chef?
                                         
                                         And he goes, yeah, I was drunk.
                                         
                                         Well, then how can you even know what you did?
                                         
                                         I this whole like everybody, this narrative on Bravo
                                         
                                         that when people drink, they suddenly have an excuse
                                         
                                         to not remember anything that happened ever is a little much, okay?
                                         
    
                                         Chef is here apologizing and it gets sad later,
                                         
                                         but at this point in the program, I'm not.
                                         
                                         At this point in the episode, I'm thinking,
                                         
                                         you finally got called out by everybody
                                         
                                         and that's why you're acting so ridiculous.
                                         
                                         It gets sadder later.
                                         
                                         But for now, that's what I think.
                                         
                                         It's actually gets sad right about now,
                                         
    
                                         because Andy goes, hey, shit.
                                         
                                         Oh, good, okay.
                                         
                                         You told me at the beginning of the day,
                                         
                                         there was something on your mind,
                                         
                                         you wanna see the group,
                                         
                                         where's there a song you wanted to sing or a poem,
                                         
                                         or did you wanna bring in a memento of what?
                                         
                                         You got on a family trip to Montreal.
                                         
    
                                         What do you want for show and bring for show and tell?
                                         
                                         So then,
                                         
                                         guys, I'm glad you're all here.
                                         
                                         This is a meocopa.
                                         
                                         What's that?
                                         
                                         Okay, let me rephrase this for Taylor.
                                         
                                         It's a mama meocopa.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         She'll pay attention to that.
                                         
                                         I love meocopa.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna see her in concert.
                                         
                                         Not to Alipa. I'm gonna see you in concert. Not do a leapa me a copa
                                         
                                         Olivia
                                         
                                         So I'm gonna cross while I'm in the crossroads because bravo con was sort of the impetus, you know
                                         
                                         I just I got a I got a a little out of control in
                                         
                                         Vegas and I really don't remember but I I scared the shit out of me
                                         
    
                                         really scared I had to talk with my close friends back in Charleston about it
                                         
                                         I was like you know what I'm super super super super scared you know I guess
                                         
                                         is how most people feel when eight in the morning comes in an alarm clock
                                         
                                         bell rings and they have to get to get up to go to something called work. Oh, I'm shivering! I'm shivering! All right, all right, let's stop back for a second.
                                         
                                         You're going a little too fast. Olivia, did you understand the word impetus? No, okay.
                                         
                                         We'll just deal with that in a minute. Yeah, he can't get it up. Everybody knows that.
                                         
                                         Sorry for being verbose.
                                         
                                         So he's like, all right, well, I know the answer to this, unfortunately,
                                         
    
                                         but can you explain what happened to you at Bravo Con? Because this would be a great promotion for next year's Bravo Con for people to come.
                                         
                                         You see these people be disasters. Okay, go on.
                                         
                                         He's like, he said, I will say the other thing I saw at BravoCon, he's like, Austin was really trying to make you presentable.
                                         
                                         And you didn't realize that as he was doing that, you know, he was being a real friend
                                         
                                         to you as we were when you came to watch what happens live, fall down drunk and we just
                                         
                                         kept serving you more and more drinks.
                                         
                                         That's pretty good.
                                         
                                         Thank you to all the liquor response.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, he was being a real friend to you.
                                         
                                         I'm like, why are you trying to give some sort of redemptive quality to Austin?
                                         
                                         I don't need this right now.
                                         
                                         So, she's like, yeah, I'm hungry.
                                         
                                         She's trying to make them all make up and it looks like they're about to break up,
                                         
                                         right?
                                         
                                         Because, Shepp that he, well,
                                         
                                         they all explain that Shep, when they said I had, I talked to all of my good friends in Charleston,
                                         
    
                                         Shep came back and nobody would speak to him after Bravo Con because he made such an ass and was
                                         
                                         so mean to everybody. And then he tried to have a brunch with all of his friends and Craig and
                                         
                                         Austin both refused to go because they were like, fuck this guy.
                                         
                                         Like here's what we've done a million times is, Shep makes an ass out of all of us and
                                         
                                         then he gets to just like, we get to go to brunch and watch him meet with his mouth open while
                                         
                                         he, you know, apologizes and then repeats the cycle.
                                         
                                         It's happened 17 times.
                                         
                                         This road that you're on ends with a cliff and I can't be in that car anymore. It's like I always say,
                                         
    
                                         don't be in cars with your exes and that's why I didn't go to the meeting because we've all driven
                                         
                                         Pete with people, reckless drivers who were drunk. We all drive with drunk drivers. Am I right?
                                         
                                         Everyone? That's universal. And I wear like this guy has nothing to lose and after Bravo Con is dark, but like he was going to ruin his life and hold on.
                                         
                                         What was the rest of that part, Paige? Oh yeah, I have to be okay with that because we've been here before. Thanks, Paige.
                                         
                                         So this part really did get to me because they're basically telling him,
                                         
                                         you're gonna be dead soon.
                                         
                                         Like you are at rock bottom, you've been at rock bottom.
                                         
                                         I'm not even, I can only wanna be your friend
                                         
    
                                         because I've accepted that you're just gonna be dead.
                                         
                                         I mean, they're telling him that.
                                         
                                         And that's so sad.
                                         
                                         I mean, to anybody who's dealt with addiction
                                         
                                         in their family or in themselves,
                                         
                                         hi, raising my hand, that's scary, you know, and I get it.
                                         
                                         And it's sad to watch Shepep like a crime do this whole thing.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's sad, but at the same time, I also know that cycle of the abuse and the addiction
                                         
    
                                         to where it's not up to everybody else to forgive you, you know, like you're still doing
                                         
                                         nothing to change, really, right?
                                         
                                         And so sometimes as a friend, you do need to sometimes as the addict,
                                         
                                         you need to be cut off and sometimes as the friends you need to cut that personal. And I've been in
                                         
                                         both places, but it's fucking so sad to watch this for me at least. And then fucking JT jumps in.
                                         
                                         And because Austin's like, come on now, I've been your best friend up here. And JT goes, oh really,
                                         
                                         you're the best friend. Shut up, dude. Like they're having a serious conversation. Shut the fuck up with your go-want to foster parents.
                                         
                                         Just be quiet.
                                         
    
                                         It's not about you.
                                         
                                         So annoying.
                                         
                                         We'll him away.
                                         
                                         So, um, chef, it's interesting because chef,
                                         
                                         chef, they're saying like you're at rock bottom.
                                         
                                         A chef also seems to have realized this too,
                                         
                                         to some degree.
                                         
                                         And chef is like, I just, you know what,
                                         
    
                                         I would love your support and help at any time. and chef is like, I just know what I would love
                                         
                                         You're supporting help at any time and he's like, I think they're saying they've been supporting you
                                         
                                         And now they're at the end of their row and he just said chef's like, yeah, well, you know
                                         
                                         He says I'm in the headspace of needing to make some changes. He goes to music stopped and these boys have their podcasts
                                         
                                         Craig has his pillows and I just didn't have anything, and I thought,
                                         
                                         who am I?
                                         
                                         By the way, this is real shit.
                                         
                                         This is what we've always been like,
                                         
    
                                         this is what Craig, I've been shepherds jealous.
                                         
                                         They're all starting to get their lives together.
                                         
                                         He has, but this is the first time he's really acknowledged it,
                                         
                                         which I thought was very significant.
                                         
                                         And he's like, how am I a value to anyone,
                                         
                                         and you're hurting yourself, bro?
                                         
                                         And it's physiological.
                                         
                                         I can't do the things I used to be able to do.
                                         
    
                                         I've been, you know, going hard,
                                         
                                         peddled the metalful throttle,
                                         
                                         my body, my mind together, like they're telling me,
                                         
                                         no, no, no, sir, you have to stop.
                                         
                                         And I'm losing my body, my mind,
                                         
                                         and I'm mixing that with fear.
                                         
                                         And I just, I can't do it the way I used to.
                                         
                                         And it's a tough build of swallow because,
                                         
    
                                         man, I was Mr. Fun Guy, and I had a reputation
                                         
                                         for being outrageous.
                                         
                                         Like this was, I thought this was very compelling.
                                         
                                         This is someone coming to terms with the fact
                                         
                                         that like everyone has started to move on.
                                         
                                         And now he has not been able to and he was always the fun,
                                         
                                         when he said the music stopped, which is sort of a cliche,
                                         
                                         but I was like, ooh, this guy is going through it right now.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, you know, I always have two sides in me that's always arguing because I'm like, Oh, this guy is going through it right now. Yeah.
                                         
                                         You know, I'm always have two sides in me that's always arguing because I'm like,
                                         
                                         how manipulative is he being?
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Because then they ask him, did you quit drinking?
                                         
                                         And he's like, well, you quit taking shots.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that was the funniest part.
                                         
                                         It's like, okay, after all that.
                                         
    
                                         That's also kind of, that's also kind of a typical thing to say, right?
                                         
                                         What's like, when you're trying, but, you know,
                                         
                                         people like this are very good at apologizing
                                         
                                         and they get really, really good at telling people
                                         
                                         what they want to hear it get.
                                         
                                         The mea culpa, and the nondoing it on television.
                                         
                                         And, but it's the cynical part,
                                         
                                         the first part of me is like crying.
                                         
    
                                         And then the second part of me is like,
                                         
                                         but wait a minute, is this just more manipulation?
                                         
                                         And is this also setting him up for the next season
                                         
                                         where he's like the chef 5.0 saying, you know?
                                         
                                         So I guess I'm just gonna put all that aside for now
                                         
                                         and stick with my initial, like, just feeling so much.
                                         
                                         I think it was real.
                                         
                                         I think it was, because it was a little too dark.
                                         
    
                                         Probably a mix of both.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's fair.
                                         
                                         I mean, I just think that it's, it was too real. It was like too much, like, I think it's fair. I mean, I just think that it's, it was too real.
                                         
                                         It was like too much, I think it's fake.
                                         
                                         I mean, I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         No, no, no, I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         I wasn't saying it was fake.
                                         
                                         No, no, you're not accusing me of saying that,
                                         
    
                                         but I'm not saying it's fake.
                                         
                                         It's just, I'm not sure if it's just another step on the cycle,
                                         
                                         you know, where it's just like another apology
                                         
                                         and then it refers to the same thing.
                                         
                                         No, I think it's like just too dark.
                                         
                                         It's like too dark to just be employed.
                                         
                                         Maybe I'm being naive, but like,
                                         
                                         I, it just is to admit that you are in a rut
                                         
    
                                         and that like life has moved on without you
                                         
                                         and your friends have moved on and you're realizing
                                         
                                         like you're just like it's not the same.
                                         
                                         That is like that's a tough pill to swallow.
                                         
                                         I don't know, I don't know if I'm manipulator
                                         
                                         could even say that.
                                         
                                         No, but I'm tempted.
                                         
                                         That's exactly.
                                         
    
                                         But then my favorite is Madison going,
                                         
                                         because he's like, well, I don't drink liquor
                                         
                                         and I don't do shots.
                                         
                                         I drink beer still and man's like, oh, shit.
                                         
                                         I thought I thought he was going to rehab
                                         
                                         or something, be like sober. I'm the almost crap. Damn it
                                         
                                         Like the people on these cells. I mean it's like memories of Vanderpump rules where she was married to an addict and she's like
                                         
                                         I mean you're not drinking anything at all like come on like oh by the way
                                         
    
                                         Can I have one of each of these prime cocktails? It's great. Thanks. So Craig is like, he actually doesn't drink very much anymore.
                                         
                                         He's like, you know, I'm an addict.
                                         
                                         And he just feels like Chef is really sad.
                                         
                                         He's like, I love you.
                                         
                                         And I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         And I hate saying that stuff.
                                         
                                         But it seems like you're open to it.
                                         
                                         And then Chef, actually this was shocking when Chef goes,
                                         
    
                                         I'll follow your lead, Craig.
                                         
                                         I will follow your lead.
                                         
                                         It's like, damn, that is a first.
                                         
                                         And by the way, Craig is like,
                                         
                                         oh, I, you know, a quit drinking liquor, just like you,
                                         
                                         but then I had to go further.
                                         
                                         And it's like, yeah, we saw on television,
                                         
                                         and I hope that's when it was,
                                         
    
                                         when he was on Winterhouse,
                                         
                                         acting like such a fucking asshole.
                                         
                                         Oh my God, this guy.
                                         
                                         You know, Craig is so charming and so cute
                                         
                                         that you really forget what a piece of shit he can be.
                                         
                                         And that one was really bad.
                                         
                                         For those of you who didn't watch,
                                         
                                         he was just like,
                                         
    
                                         like they all do on that show,
                                         
                                         spilling shit all over the floor,
                                         
                                         is making a mess.
                                         
                                         And then when people are cleaning up,
                                         
                                         he's like, I refuse to clean up.
                                         
                                         I mean, I'm rich.
                                         
                                         Basically, he's like, I'm rich now.
                                         
                                         I don't have to do this shit.
                                         
    
                                         Like, my parents own a cleaning company.
                                         
                                         I'm not the one who cleans and he like did all this shit.
                                         
                                         I'm like, oh, God.
                                         
                                         I hope that that was the walk back moment.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Because that was dark.
                                         
                                         There probably also was a moment I would not be surprised.
                                         
                                         This is total conjecture.
                                         
    
                                         But with sewing down south
                                         
                                         starting to do really well, I feel like probably Jerry
                                         
                                         his partner was like, listen Craig, this is doing well.
                                         
                                         You can't fuck it up.
                                         
                                         You got to clean up your act, okay?
                                         
                                         So Taylor, Craig's like, I was asked if there's anything
                                         
                                         Chef could do to salvage the friendship.
                                         
                                         And I said, everything in anything,
                                         
    
                                         if he does one thing, I'm there.
                                         
                                         I love good Shep.
                                         
                                         All he has to do is turn off this road,
                                         
                                         but he's too proud to do it.
                                         
                                         And Shep's like, I've lost my pride.
                                         
                                         I'll do it.
                                         
                                         So Andy S. Wattaylor's reaction is,
                                         
                                         and she's like, it makes me happy.
                                         
    
                                         And despite popular belief, I know the real Shep
                                         
                                         and he's an incredible kind smart human being.
                                         
                                         The sort of thing that people who enable monsters say.
                                         
                                         And chefs are saying, you know,
                                         
                                         he really thought he was a rock star.
                                         
                                         He thought he was.
                                         
                                         And Vinita gets her, she's asked her opinion and she's like,
                                         
                                         I mean, it's a big, you know, it's a big step
                                         
    
                                         to admit something like that,
                                         
                                         but you know, you really have to quit completely.
                                         
                                         You can't just slow down.
                                         
                                         And Lee is saying, the secret is you really have to want
                                         
                                         something more.
                                         
                                         Like Craig wants more.
                                         
                                         You can't just drinkings fun and eating a ton of chocolates
                                         
                                         fun.
                                         
    
                                         But you have to want something more than that to stop doing it.
                                         
                                         And Andy's like like I said,
                                         
                                         just looks at shop like,
                                         
                                         ah, I mean,
                                         
                                         shop's just looking like,
                                         
                                         like what?
                                         
                                         Make one.
                                         
                                         Could you give me a hint?
                                         
    
                                         Because.
                                         
                                         What is that word you said?
                                         
                                         Career?
                                         
                                         Is that what?
                                         
                                         I don't know sure I know that.
                                         
                                         So Andy's, and he's like,
                                         
                                         well, it may be that this,
                                         
                                         like you may,
                                         
    
                                         like that this, that like what you want to continue, like, you know, like you may, like that this, that, like what you want to continue,
                                         
                                         like, you know, like you may be at the precipice where,
                                         
                                         oh, this is not like a healthy environment.
                                         
                                         Stay tuned.
                                         
                                         I think I could do it.
                                         
                                         I appreciate your support.
                                         
                                         If you are hinting that you want to fire me,
                                         
                                         I'll be a good boy.
                                         
    
                                         I'll be a good boy, I swear Andy.
                                         
                                         So then it's break.
                                         
                                         And Andy's like, wow, good job. You did good, chef. Okay, take a we're Andy. So then it's break and Andy's like,
                                         
                                         wow, good job, you did good, Chef.
                                         
                                         Okay, take it seriously, bye.
                                         
                                         So then Taylor and Chef are hugging and he's like,
                                         
                                         I really wanted to say those things privately to you,
                                         
                                         I guess, and she's like, I guess I'm proud of you.
                                         
    
                                         And he goes, oh yeah, well now tell everyone
                                         
                                         how bad I am at sex, you bitch.
                                         
                                         And so they kind of laugh and then we're back to the show.
                                         
                                         So now it's about Andy, I mean it's about Austin and Shep.
                                         
                                         And you know, they just had this great trip together
                                         
                                         in Australia and Shep saying, oh yeah,
                                         
                                         we could have actually talked on that,
                                         
                                         but he kept lying to me.
                                         
    
                                         And Andy's like, well, what if on that trip,
                                         
                                         he admitted to hooking up with Taylor,
                                         
                                         what would you feel?
                                         
                                         And he's like, how could have a least processed Andy?
                                         
                                         Yeah, and Austin is talking about how, yeah, he says,
                                         
                                         like, yeah, we got a complete blast.
                                         
                                         It was a great time that we had.
                                         
                                         And Austin's like, yeah, well, I feel sorry for this,
                                         
    
                                         Chef, I feel sorry I didn't tell you in Australia.
                                         
                                         And I thought that it was such a non-factor,
                                         
                                         like I quite literally thought nothing would come from it
                                         
                                         because nothing did come what had happened.
                                         
                                         So nothing's going anywhere.
                                         
                                         So, Chef's like, okay, look, here's the problem with all this.
                                         
                                         Austin said on the season, on camera,
                                         
                                         like, Shep wouldn't even plot an tailor
                                         
    
                                         if I had gone to the bar before he met her.
                                         
                                         And then we see a clip of Craig,
                                         
                                         you know, them wasted a Whitney's house and Craig saying,
                                         
                                         yeah, the member Austin, you said at the Commodore,
                                         
                                         if Shep hadn't taken her home, you would have.
                                         
                                         So, I took that at the time, is meaning they were all there together when they met Taylor
                                         
                                         and that Shep took her home first or something.
                                         
                                         That's how I took it there.
                                         
    
                                         It's not really clarified, but I don't know why it matters.
                                         
                                         But it's also, it just goes to show what a piece of shit Huston really is even more
                                         
                                         because the Commodore is Shep's bar, he owns that bar.
                                         
                                         And Austin is in there drinking for fucking free,
                                         
                                         probably in a bar that Shep's carrying his alcohol
                                         
                                         and shit talking shop and saying, what a fucking loser.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And he's like, yeah, you know how arrogant that is
                                         
    
                                         to be like, if I got to our first bro,
                                         
                                         you guys never would have fallen in love and spent two and a half years going, do you realize how arrogant that is to be like, if I got to her first bro, you guys never would have fallen in love
                                         
                                         and spent two and a half years ago.
                                         
                                         Do you realize how arrogant that is?
                                         
                                         To say that to someone who's very proud
                                         
                                         of her development?
                                         
                                         Gosh, the arrogance.
                                         
                                         And he's like, well, what are the women think?
                                         
    
                                         And Madison's like, I believe Austin,
                                         
                                         because if he got into Taylor first,
                                         
                                         they had been together.
                                         
                                         That's just how it is.
                                         
                                         And Olivia goes, yeah, and they should have.
                                         
                                         Like, that's what I've been saying. Like, they should, like, they should just be
                                         
                                         together then, like, they caused all this, all this holo believe or whatever.
                                         
                                         She's doing it. Yeah. Give it a shot now. And tell us like, no, absolutely not.
                                         
    
                                         And by the way, I was also into Shep a million times over and love us.
                                         
                                         Like, yeah, well, I think like the big thing for this group is
                                         
                                         like you're not thinking about like what happened in the moment where like you're thinking about
                                         
                                         like what happened in the moment whereas we're all thinking about like what your friend did was
                                         
                                         like so messed up and like you continue to lie to these two people the entire time and it makes
                                         
                                         all of us want to just take a step back from both of you although the truth is we'll still hang out
                                         
                                         with with Austin but we won't hang out with you, Taylor. Mm. And she said, but I understand the severity of hurting a friend, though. And Craig's like,
                                         
                                         no, you keep saying you're sorry. It hurt. Okay. But, you know, and Taylor's saying, I'm
                                         
    
                                         just wrong. You know, they're just trying to explain the Taylor for the millionth time,
                                         
                                         you know, and Olivia's like, you know what? Like you keep trying to make it sound. Like, it's our fault for not just understanding it was a drunken moment, but you've
                                         
                                         eyes so many times from my face over and over again.
                                         
                                         Yeah, she's like, you expect me to hop on the forgiveness wagon? And because I didn't,
                                         
                                         you know, y'all proceeded to say, I'm just so tired of this. You know, oh, you're tired of it. Y'all are in the shit bed that you made.
                                         
                                         You got to live, you know.
                                         
                                         So Taylor's like, no, I never said it was the problem.
                                         
                                         And Taylor's like, yeah, well, you said it made it seem like
                                         
    
                                         it was my fault that this was dragging out, you know.
                                         
                                         And she's like, well, I'm just saying, forgive.
                                         
                                         Like the Emperor Jesus Christ said, forgive as you want to be
                                         
                                         forget, that what Jesus was in an Emperor's Stope, God, Taylor, Jesus. God, what about you want to be, forget, that what Jesus wasn't an Emperor stupid,
                                         
                                         God, Taylor Jesus.
                                         
                                         God, what about your device?
                                         
                                         Sorry, sorry everybody.
                                         
                                         Your development.
                                         
    
                                         Sorry.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry that she did that.
                                         
                                         Sorry, sorry.
                                         
                                         Sorry, okay.
                                         
                                         I'll keep better watch over her everybody.
                                         
                                         Oh, I knew I shouldn't have broken up with her.
                                         
                                         Look at her quoting members that didn't exist.
                                         
                                         Go ahead and say it.
                                         
    
                                         I know what you're trying to say.
                                         
                                         Go ahead and say it. And she's like,
                                         
                                         well, you know, Andy's like, okay, let me help you because Taylor, I can't tell if Taylor's,
                                         
                                         did somebody put batteries in Taylor? Okay, Taylor, you're basically saying the implication is,
                                         
                                         Olivia's done something too. She's just, yeah, to a friend and a confidant and a confidant.
                                         
                                         Okay. And Craig's like, well, you might as well say it.
                                         
                                         We're all here.
                                         
                                         And she goes, you know, the whole Thomas situation.
                                         
    
                                         And Andy goes, uh, Thomas Ravino.
                                         
                                         Thomas is English.
                                         
                                         I was like, what?
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         And then Olivia just goes, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         What the fuck? And then we see, oh, so she says, um, yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck?
                                         
                                         And then we see, oh, so she says, yeah,
                                         
                                         I was for a rush at a college, 20 years old,
                                         
    
                                         just fresh out of college, like drunk as a skunk.
                                         
                                         And it was like, one night, I hooked up with T-Rav,
                                         
                                         and Austin's like, wow, T-Rav, wow, legend.
                                         
                                         That guy is fucking magical at this point.
                                         
                                         Like what the hell?
                                         
                                         Congrats to Olivia, by the way, on finishing her degree at 20.
                                         
                                         And so she's like, yeah, she's like, yeah, I had to hook up with T-Rav.
                                         
                                         And I wanted to take it to my grave.
                                         
    
                                         And like, who wouldn't?
                                         
                                         Who would actually be proud?
                                         
                                         That's because I was about dating T-Rav.
                                         
                                         Hooking up with T-Rav.
                                         
                                         And they all crack up.
                                         
                                         And then she reminds us that Madison called it out last year.
                                         
                                         Now maybe that's why this wasn't such a bomb to anybody else,
                                         
                                         but I don't even remember this.
                                         
    
                                         And then we see the clip of Madison being like,
                                         
                                         well, I mean, I think Thomas Olivia, right?
                                         
                                         And she's like me.
                                         
                                         And then Taylor immediately jumped in and said,
                                         
                                         oh my God, that's so fucking random.
                                         
                                         Like, why would you say that?
                                         
                                         And Olivia's saying, no, no, he's just a family friend.
                                         
                                         So I think I just blew it off and just blew it.
                                         
    
                                         And Olivia's like, well, right after I sat down,
                                         
                                         right after that, I sat down with Taylor.
                                         
                                         And I was like, well, thanks for sticking up for me.
                                         
                                         But like, it did happen.
                                         
                                         And now here you are.
                                         
                                         Here you are.
                                         
                                         You know, be trained with this information.
                                         
                                         You're the only person on earth I said it.
                                         
    
                                         And Taylor goes, on earth?
                                         
                                         It's not a little wide-maybe.
                                         
                                         So, meaning what?
                                         
                                         No, I left.
                                         
                                         When he, oh, sorry.
                                         
                                         I can't stop now.
                                         
                                         I'm like, you just go, I'll keep getting lost.
                                         
                                         I know, you just go, keep getting lost.
                                         
    
                                         I see you're like, wow, don't.
                                         
                                         No, it's okay, go ahead.
                                         
                                         So Andy's like, he's like, well, what does she need
                                         
                                         to be forgiven for hooking up? Why does she need to be forgiven for hooking up?
                                         
                                         Why does she need to be forgiven for hooking up for T-Rap?
                                         
                                         And Taylor goes, Taylor's like, it's the same situation.
                                         
                                         Catherine is a friend, a friend and a confidante.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you lied about it.
                                         
    
                                         Why didn't she go to Catherine and say, I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         And JT's kind of nodding proudly at Taylor,
                                         
                                         like this fucking guy, he's like, yeah,
                                         
                                         there she goes, there's my girl.
                                         
                                         And Leva's like, I mean,
                                         
                                         because she was embarrassed about it.
                                         
                                         Okay, well Leva, you're the one who's like marching
                                         
                                         on about accountability this whole time.
                                         
    
                                         So Olivia's saying, well, I didn't know Catherine then.
                                         
                                         And, but then if you start doing the math,
                                         
                                         if she was 20, she's 31 now.
                                         
                                         So that would have if according to her and her timeline, that would have been like what 2012
                                         
                                         right during right before or during the show shooting, which is the same time Thomas started
                                         
                                         hooking up with the other 20 year old on the show Catherine, who Whitney was also
                                         
                                         hooking up with at that time.
                                         
                                         So were these guys just going around Charleston,
                                         
    
                                         fucking every 20 year old they could find
                                         
                                         and dangling the show over their head?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         That's really gross.
                                         
                                         Well, because that's what it comes off to.
                                         
                                         I believe that maybe Olivia said she was 20.
                                         
                                         I mean, she probably was 22 or so,
                                         
                                         but so that probably adds a few years,
                                         
    
                                         because Taylor says it's right after baby number two.
                                         
                                         Well, that's when it changes, right? Because Olivia says I didn't know Catherine. I met Catherine after
                                         
                                         after it happened. And Taylor goes, no, you said it was five years ago after baby number two.
                                         
                                         Well, five years ago, Olivia would have been 26, not 20. So, hmm, who's telling the truth?
                                         
                                         So hmm who's telling the truth?
                                         
                                         Oh, well Olivia's either way gross Thomas gross Thomas is such a fucking pig I think and by the way that's like the ultimate here is just like Thomas
                                         
                                         So Olivia's like well she's been sitting here chomping at the bit to use against me
                                         
                                         Not only have you proven yourself as a be a shit friend. You're a shit
                                         
    
                                         Him and to me a copa.
                                         
                                         So they go to a break and then they'll leave you just curses away backstage, fucking,
                                         
                                         fucking, fucking, fucking, fuck.
                                         
                                         Now she calls her a fucking scene mode.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         And then stomps back to the back.
                                         
                                         Whoops.
                                         
                                         Well, the reunion continues next week,
                                         
    
                                         so we're gonna find out what happens next on the shit show.
                                         
                                         It's good times. I enjoyed it.
                                         
                                         I liked it. It's a good reunion so far.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it was a good reunion.
                                         
                                         It was overall good.
                                         
                                         Oh, crazy. I mean, I thought it was a bomb.
                                         
                                         I was like, wow, everybody.
                                         
                                         That's why they're all in SkandaValkailles. But obviously it's not bomb. I was like, wow, everybody. That's why they're on a scandal, Carlos.
                                         
    
                                         But obviously, it's not the same thing as what Taylor did
                                         
                                         because Taylor and Olivia were like best friends.
                                         
                                         So I don't want anybody to think
                                         
                                         there was like any slut shaming us in this.
                                         
                                         My thing is just like, how many people,
                                         
                                         how many young people were these guys
                                         
                                         fucking at the beginning of the show?
                                         
                                         It's just bad and gross.
                                         
    
                                         I guess I'm just not surprised anymore when I find out that someone on the show, it's just bad and gross. I guess I'm just not surprised anymore
                                         
                                         when I find out that someone on the show
                                         
                                         slept with Whitney or T-Raff
                                         
                                         because it's happened so many times.
                                         
                                         I'm numb to it.
                                         
                                         Last year, Whitney, Omi and Whitney,
                                         
                                         like hooked up, I think that was the final thing
                                         
                                         where I'm like, I don't think I could ever be shocked
                                         
    
                                         by this anymore.
                                         
                                         It's just this is just the way the show operates.
                                         
                                         So like, well, there was
                                         
                                         a thing this year. We didn't talk about it on here because I don't really believe it.
                                         
                                         But there was this thing where, and I think Olivia even addressed it on her Instagram,
                                         
                                         but, uh, Whitney, where is a lightning bolts on, uh, he wears a lightning bolt necklace,
                                         
                                         and then Olivia was photographed or in these scenes wearing a lightning bolt necklace
                                         
                                         to. So everyone's like, oh my God, is this look literally another scandal?
                                         
    
                                         And the necklace says TCB, which means taking care of business,
                                         
                                         which is Elvis's, Elvis's necklace,
                                         
                                         he wore that all the time.
                                         
                                         That was his part, it was taking care of business.
                                         
                                         Why?
                                         
                                         And I don't think he's gonna be able to do this.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry, I meant to say, I would have added a why to that necklace.
                                         
                                         So it would be GCB why? And they, I don't know if Olivia said that Whitney had loaned it to her. So
                                         
    
                                         I don't know if it's because he lost his father and she lost her brother. It was like a sign of
                                         
                                         support or something. But there was that rumor, you know, kind of going on the whole season,
                                         
                                         which we didn't really bring up. But, you know, it of going on the whole season, which we didn't really bring up,
                                         
                                         but, you know, it all just becomes more interesting with that revelation, but I just, I don't know.
                                         
                                         I feel like maybe someone else should be left up to casting for a while, because it gets
                                         
                                         really cringy.
                                         
                                         All right, well, everyone, cheer after you.
                                         
                                         We were at the end of the episode.
                                         
    
                                         Thanks so much for all being here for this wacky, wacky reunion with so many, so many
                                         
                                         dark sides to it.
                                         
                                         We still have Real House Wars of Miami, which will be posted sometime after this, so if
                                         
                                         you're wondering where that is, it's going to be coming up soon.
                                         
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