Watch What Crappens - #2295 RHOSLC: Worst Staircase Scenario

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

The second Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion episode (S04E18) welcomes Mary M. Cosby back to the reunion stage, but first: a good old fashioned staircase fight.Watch with Crappens on Demand here:  http://bit.ly/crappensvideoSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Anyway, slice it. Anyway, slice it. Anyway, slice it. You could literally, you know, like, you know, it's not a great time anyway, slice it, a kick-hat, because you can't slice that across all the bars. That's not a great time. With the slice it.

The grass is in the turrets, pretty sliced, then. You break off the piece, you don't slice a kick, can't you break it? I know, but people do that shit. They bite like all the way across, you know? I do. And like, you can't, that's not a great time. But the crap is you could play it all the way across. It's a great time. I

Am a rebel and I do eat kick at that way. I will do really think yes sometimes sometimes you just can't help it like you know how M&M's you Peanut M&M specifically you're supposed to suck it wait for the candy to melt Then the chocolate kind of crumbles with the candy and then you get everything that's rare and then you get the peanut all the way down You get a peanut skin not rare, but you know you get it down to the peanut and then you get the skin off of it with your teeth And then you finally eat the raw peanut that's how you do it. I'm not saying that's how you do it I'm saying like it's accepted at that time. It's accepted practice But cats you know sometimes I don't I'll just crunch into the M&M and it tastes terrible, but I just want to eat it so bad that I just crunch into it. I'll end you that with Kit Katz sometimes.

There. Confession. I've confessed. That's the twist of this podcast. It turns out this whole time, Ronnie was secretly jumping on Kit Katz the wrong way. Reality gone to see. Yeah. Wow. The secret is out. It is a horizontal

way to be honest. It's a horizontally or vertically. If that's how I was eating a kick cat, no one is here to listen to that bullshit. Indiscriminately. How about that? You know, could you imagine eating tic tacs? Like it was a harmonica, right, the center section. Like, how about that? That's even wilder. I do not. Actually, you know, there's a lot of instruments I've tried to play. One of them is not harmonica because it's a mouth instrument and I want to eat the instrument. I played saxophones. It's not multiple. I played wine when I was in...

Not even junior high, what's before junior high? I was in like, was that band? Orchestra band. And I played sax. And I in like, was that banned? Orchestra. Bam, and I played sax. And I would like ruin the read because I would sit there and nibble on the reads. I'm a sickness. If we could kick that.

Read it was like the kickcat of wood. Saxons are the kickcat of brass. Well, that's gonna be today's, that's the theme for today's episode. We gotta dive into the Salt Lake City recap. I don't know if there's any other thing to announce, except that Dwell Hello is gonna be on this week. We've wasted enough time talking about our sale. Kit Kat.

People have a lot, this is a huge episode. Monica squeals. Oh my God, Monica. Jesus, all of them just screaming and fighting and not able to, you know, stop talking of each other Andy, you know, we all need to be very very grateful that Andy's still showing up because sometimes Andy just looks like He's done like the batteries are just dead and he's just like I've had enough, you know He's had he's gonna have his like, I'm Mattis Hell and I'm not gonna take it any more moment from,

what's that movie called? Newspaper. Network. He's gonna have that moment. I'm Mattis Hell. I'm not gonna take it anymore. After this. That's why I get a kick-cat,

cause give me a brain. Hey, you know what, I'm not gonna take it anymore? Love your boobs. I'm gonna not take talking about how great your boobs look. Okay. I've had any work talks that last saw you. Kick ass like, yeah, I'm actually a big cat now. I'm just one big bar. I love it.

I've actually been eating the wrong ways since we've last talked, Annie, and it's changed my life. Looks great on you. Tell me about it. Can you kick out the wrong way? The number one cause a relationship to clients with the chef. Hey, kick out is somebody eating you vertically? Looks good on you. So here we go. Salt Lake City.

Tonight, did someone get thrown down the stairs? And that ladies and gentlemen, is why the show is the best show on television. So, I'm sure with the MEC, okay? Also, by the way, falling or being thrown down a staircase is, I believe, the number one, campiest crime in the world of gayness, right? It really is.

There's this like the most fifties movie about like ladies, you know, like Valley of the Dolls kind of a movie that you can get. Yeah, I recently, someone posted a clip of Dolores Clayborn on Instagram recently, which is a movie I really loved in the 90s. And so I was kind of like revisiting it, like reading the plot on Wikipedia. And I forgot that it's really, the movie starts with Kathy Bates being like, a suspect of like throwing someone down the stairs.

Or something like that. Like, of course it does. That movie is so gay and can't be. Of course it starts with an older lady being flown down the staircase. Hahaha. I am starting to see in comments, just on Salt Lake City episodes in general, like a big divide with gays and women.

And usually I feel like we're pretty much on the same side. I mean, come on, gays are pretty much women are best friends, I mean, for the most part, at least in my life. So I feel like the comments aren't usually that different from each other, but it was not like city, I see it, because I feel like a lot of women being like, oh my god, Monica's mother's a narcissist, a porn Monica's trauma, and that's why Monica's going through this, because trauma, trauma, trauma, and the gays are like, oh my god, got thrown down the stairs. Yes, queen!

Yes! Yes! Like, this is where every diver just groups. We love the campy, horrible stuff. They're like, I mean, it's like we're this episode of the special. I'm like, how does Linda not have a bigger following? Because this episode just kind of iconized.

I got you. How do you say? How do you say it? What's the process of becoming a gay? She's like, yes, if I had, she got liarsized. becoming a gay? She's like, justified. She got liarsized. Why am I?

She's a justified. She would, that's the nice word. I like that word, justified. She, there's nothing, no story ever comes out about Linda, that makes her a better person. It just gets worse and worse. But since we, she's not our mother and we don't have to live with her It's amazing

It's like it's so because it's so over the top is so can't be It's like the best thing like I've seen now is she inflicting huge amounts of generational trauma on Monica and Monica's daughters. Yes, and that's very sad But I don't watch these shows to think about that too seriously or if I ever teeter into that territory, I'm ashamed of myself afterwards. I'm a Bravo fan. I have no place in my life for shame. I've given it up.

I'm sitting in front of Bravo all day. That's just how I go. So we'll get to it because there's a lot. There's a lot going. There's a lot and also nothing. There's a lot but also nothing new. You know what I mean? So, I'm married, I love it.

But one thing that I love, one thing that I love, and Mary, one thing that I love about this episode, or a lot of times the reunion episodes is that it just, it starts up just like mid-argument. So like the ripart, you start now, and it just comes back to, bitch, I deserve to be here, spending your kids money on a fucking on a fucking purse You're irresponsible and you set a bad message. I'm like, ooh, I just love just coming in at a 10

I love it and she also did say you with a Range Rover undercar under a car Yes, of course I checked it out there. Oh, it's hilarious Also people all week have been like oh my god You guys need to watch us on peacock because it's unsentored and they're really saying, fuck you and C word. Yeah, also listen and watch what crap ends,

spread the word because we're also saying, fuck you. We don't say the C word, but we do say cut fitness, which is still probably better than this. It's probably more fitting than the C word. It is. So yeah, Angie's yelling and then Monica is squealing. She's like, Are you insane? Keep my kid fucking kids that he's

or fucking mouth your piece of shit. I'm like, well, again, she's not calling your kids anything, she's calling you a bad mother. And I feel like that that's fair in the world of real-time. I feel like if she called your kid stupid or something, that would be bad. But calling you a bad mother is totally fine. Like I'm fine with that.

Yeah, you should be allowed to have a performance review, okay? So Angie's like, well then stop talking shit about mine, about Elektra, fuck off. Nobody wants you here. And the gay is like, Oh shit, I am, I do I call him. Okay. So then Monica's like, I'm a thank you Angie, thank you, I am, I do, I call him. So then Monica's like,

I'm a thank you Angie, thank you, I'm very well aware of that. And so Meredith's like, last time, I would love to keep talking about this, but can we make it warm out? Whitney has sprayed silly string all over her spray tent to keep warm over here. Okay. Jean's Whitney is wearing a $30 guy a string Jean-Slippery, she's cooler than her backyard when the hot-tubs turned off.

Alright, well, we'll warm it up. Okay, well, the housewives' universe has seen scuffling sisters, clashing cousins, and a very controversial step grandfather, but one of the most fucked up things we've ever done is put Monica and our kuku for Cocoa bus mother Linda on your television screens. Let's watch by the way who killed the guy who says next on Bravo We don't talk about him much, but they've got some they've got a lady doing it now And this is not like a you know, well women't, women shouldn't be able to hold this position. But what happened to the guys? Anybody gonna tell us?

Is he still around it only part time now? Is he retired? You can't just take away that. Rah-mo-ho, Rah-vo. Guy and then not tell us where he went. Coming up next. Yeah. It's weird also who fired the pun maker.

Like how do you lead into the Linda segment and say, let's take a look at their Rocky Road this season. Rocky Road shouldn't be something like, let's see who is more possessed this season. Or should I say, repossessed. Like, we're if you're gonna take, or if you're gonna use Rocky Road, be like, guess what?

On the real housewives universe, we've seen some real mint chips, but let me tell you about Neapolish. Why don't I do another one? I've really been chunky monkeys. Downer Rocky Road. Yeah, I was gonna say, they're never had a significant Rocky Road scene. So that was a bad, there was like a pun off of nothing, I was gonna say, they never had a significant rocky road scene.

So that was a bad, there was like a pun off of nothing, but what about something like, the relationship between these two, can they ever mend it, or is it like a bowl of guacamole to Linda serving just desserts? Yes, see, that's a lot.

And that's what we get from making fun of the puns all the time on this show, because look what happens when we try to do it. They're just stringing. Mint chips. Mint chips. Grockim Wally and we come on. We need the pun people.

Bring back the bravo guy and the pun person, okay? So leave the thing. Yeah. So then we see a montage of Linda's graze hits from the season, which I actually did hear that that montage will be the festival opener for outfest 2024. So, you know, congratulations. Do we just need more time for people to really enjoy what Linda's done?

Because that's it. See, I think it was, I think it was this because listen, during the season, we've talked about what a monster Linda is, but I feel everybody getting heat or not everybody, but I feel people getting heated out there. Like you think drama's funny? I mean, kind of because I've been through it, okay? Like you wanna talk about mommy drama, I've had my own, okay? So, no, when it's happening,

I don't necessarily think it's hilarious. When it's happening to somebody else on my TV and said person is in a ball gown that looks like a napkin from a banquet tucked into their top of their ball gown. Yeah, I mean, I think it's funnier. And all put together like this, I think it's funny. Honestly, if someone comes for me that I'm laughing at this Linda montage and that I think that she's like this amazing, wretched monster and someone says, how could you laugh

at this generational trauma? I'm going to say, how could you put your energy into me as a podcaster? Why don't you put your energy into something more important like a nonprofit that will actually help these things instead of coming for me? I literally will not have any time for it. Don't come for me. Let me laugh at Linda. So Linda is the Linda montage. Okay, so Monica is like, yeah, but you have to be nice to me. My girl. When you hung up on me the other day, but you didn't really hang on and you said, I hate your fucking got you fucking bitch. And then Linda starts laughing. She freaked out. It was a good way. Did you record that by any chance? I should do that on your voice smell. So I have that Monica. And the old classic, what was it that she goes?

She's like, well, you think I care, motherfucker? Did you just go me up, fucker? No, I called you motherfucker. And I do like a black slowed fade to black off that, like how powerful, what powerful abuse? I was like, standing out, Baycia. So one thing that they brought up was the thing where Monica's mom left her.

I think I mentioned it last week in one of the shows we were doing, this one or the crappy hour or something, but there's a video that Monica's mom released that was like, I did not abandon Monica. She, the truth is, I got a job in New York. And Monica, I love Monica with friends. Monica loved these people.

Monica, baby, sat these people. Monica was best friends with these people. So that was the mom side. So then mother fucker. So then we're back. And Andy's like, wow, lots on pack. I mean, not a lot, because you're the poor one, but still so heartbreaking. Did you ever get to the bottom of Bermuda?

What was your mom's involvement that made your family cancel any? By the way, another thing we found out because Monica actually tweeted at her mother, mom, I apologize to you because I did find out that you were not the one that was responsible for this after all, getting my family to turn on me in Bermuda. And the mom's like, that is right, Monica. That is right. So Monica did know that her mother didn't do this.

I didn't, I don't know when she found out, but Monica's answer is, right now, is not what ended up being the truth. Is it particularly sensitive to lead off a segment about Monica being dropped off in Pennsylvania while her mom, Galimant in New York City, by saying, well, a lot to unpack here. Is that really the best thing to start the segment off with? Ooh, we have a lot to unpack here.

Not Monica, because we're not taking her with us. And that's it. Oh my god, I'd like you to answer this with some wild abandoned please. But it's terrible. You know, it's a fucking podcast, everyone, you know, I'm taking on the role in your today. I don't care if it's a podcast.

It's a podcast. A moniker, it's been a lot of talking. Would you like an abandoned mint? Fresh enough. But barely even a bit, barely even makes sense. It made me, made like a trickle of snot come out my nose. And now I have a tissue. Are you happy now?

Are you happy that you're producing me to this? So incredibly stupid. An abandoned mint. I would love, I would love to launch a breathman company called Abandon a band by like so like abandoned look like their way that like It doesn't look like it says abandoned like like Abandon and people like oh my god. I'd have you tried abondonments and then like Abandon. And people are like, oh my God, have you tried Abandonments?

I like the UVA and like Abandon. Abandonments, under it. No, Abandon. Uba, it's like an Uba in like a Berlin, okay, I'll stop. So, Andy asked how long since they've spoken, since filming robbed, and so she didn't get a straight answer from her family

Bermuda what happened and Monica says so so my mother message production and said she wanted to go to Bermuda and they said um and no and so she got really pissed off and she said she felt like I'm the one you should be there because the family remembers me more And so she threw a huge fit and I would say did she do this because she didn't get to come on the trip Wow Wow, wow still so much wrong back. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial Being an actual royal is never about finding your happy ending, but the worst part is, if they step out of line or fall in love with the wrong person, it changes the course of

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And then we see the tweets pop up. Monica's not really, I don't think coming, I mean, when does not really coming from Monica that hard and look to be fair, I kind of had these questions last week about the reality von T. Singh. I didn't think that reality von Teezing was coming for the other ladies that hard. So I don't understand what, I mean, I can understand why they're a map, especially after we saw the stalking

and all the other stuff that's come from it. Of course, they're gonna be mad, but they didn't have any screenshots of, they had a couple, they had, they had the one where she said Whitney was a swinger and Heather, she was posting something that Jen had said about Heather looking like Shrack or something like that. So we've seen a couple, but we hadn't seen a ton of evidence of Monica being

horrible to the other women. And I feel kind of the same way with this one, like I don't see a ton of proof here of Linda really coming from Monica. I think Linda's being kind of dragged and rightfully so because it's not like Linda's innocent, but Linda's being dragged every week. And I think Linda's being kind of dragged, and rightfully so, because it's not like Linda's innocent, but Linda's being dragged every week, and I think she's going on Twitter, tweeting about the episode's kind of standing up for herself. What do you think?

Yeah, but like even if Linda's only a little bit coming from Monica, that's massively fucked up because that's her daughter. And could you imagine like lightly coming for your daughter on Twitter? Like that is just you just I talked about my mom and she came out and said no, that's not how it happened This is how it happened. I wouldn't love it, but she would have the right right?

Yeah, I guess but I just think that like you know Linda who made a fuss at Angie's like be quiet You are making a scene at Angie's, a Greek Easter, be quiet Monica. And then all of a sudden, she's gonna spat off on Twitter. So I'm gonna say, I think Linda should, X-Nay, she's supposed to be, she's still the older and more than one. And so she should X-Nay on the witcher,

and the E-twey, X-twey. So we see some tweets popping up, and one is Monica begged me to do this reality show with her and I'm not competing with my child Unless it's in sports That was funny And she also says I'm too smart to go up against Monica. She did me dirty here And I always put her needs above my own even in my adulthood. I'm not a perfect human, but I am a devoted mother in my adulthood. I'm not a perfect human, but I am a devoted mother. I'm foe, well, God bless us. She ends a lot of her death. God bless us. Prayer hands, white heart.

So, and he's like, at least I'm curious, you know, you went pretty hard at Monica and you two went on each other about your relationship with her mom and, you know, you called her, you know, she called her mom to her, Bundy and watching the show did you think that like you we think of you approach her and her mom at least as like well that's like a two-part question so what I observed on Easter was Monica's mom being like lovely and charming and like my hair looking great and I said that statement based off of what I saw not of history and but I also said I don't live in their house. It's way too small for me. So I couldn't, you never know what's happening behind closed doors, especially if you suspect

those doors only lead to a tiny closet. You know Andy, once I actually saw it on TV, I was like, wow, that's so much ship-lap. And I graduated at, I graduated at the same date. When I saw it on TV, I said, does a count doesn't open concept if your dining room is in your kitchen? So Monica's like, I really appreciate that.

And I can appreciate how like from an outside perspective, it does look like I'm a complete bitch to my mom. But anyone who's dealt with it can see what she's doing. Which yes, you know, whatever is said about Monica or whatever, uh, you know, not case she turns out to be over the course of this reunion and the season, Linda Sox. I think we don't have a big. Linda's monster.

I mean, that is definitely a wrestling match where you like, you want both of them to win and both of them to lose at the same time, you know. Yeah. Linda is a full monster, but like as a presence on our television, I think she is like, I got on. So Andy's like, so you know, she left her 12 year old to pursue a career in television. Do you think your mom was like auditioning to be a housewife and some Monica tells the story just girl, when I applied to be on the show I did like my phone

interview and the first place I went to was like my mom said I just lean on my couch girl and I like cried I was like I totally like fuck this up I like totally fucking bomb the girl and she's like in thin my mom said Monica let's see you pair like, and then my mom said, Monica, let's see you, prayer. Dear Joseph Smith, please let me get this show. And now I got a lot of whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So suppose Monica let it be me.

Like that. This is some blue seal, like not even not really lose your blue, but like this is like the stuff that we'd like dream of. But also I don't believe like part of of me is like I don't believe it, but then I'm like you just saw a clip of Linda's greatest hits. Of course it's true. Like of course it, of course it is true that she would be like, okay Monica didn't get it. Then please let me have gotten it instead. And we also saw, for those of us who saw that video that Monica recorded of her mom, when she was yelling at her mom, Linda was like, Monica, you failed your job. You

have to be an actress. This is about acting. It's about being as many scenes as possible Monica. So she definitely does think like that. But Monica's credibility is so in the gutter also. Let's just really not overlook that. She was caught in a ball face lie last week saying about how she applied to be on the show. She fully lied there. She just, they keep on catching her in lies. She definitely is from the school of Tamra where I think she hears something and she hears like a nugget of, she hears something and then there's like a nugget of truth going

forward but she distorts it and embellishes and puts it forth as fact Why couldn't you finish why couldn't you can do sorry? That's sorry. I didn't realize you were winding up first knees. I was like I was like look at me being succinct I didn't know I was either, but it just came out and I'm so sorry we're so unprofessional, we're not taking that out. So yeah, it's natural. Yeah, so Monica's mom supposedly prayed that she got it instead. Now here's my question. As gross and also hilarious as that is, why is it totally like girl power when Monica

last week was like, so what? So what if I just wanted to be her assistant to get on the show and audition for the show? Is it wrong for me to want to be on the show? Well, why is it wrong for your mom to want to be on the show? If you didn't get to be on the show. Mom doesn't work both ways. Why is it sick for your mom but not for you? My question. Careful, the words you say say children will listen. Run does will listen. My mom's gonna show up here tomorrow. Like, hi, welcome to watch.

Well, I crap and view mother fuckers. You know what you need. Linda is basically the witch from Into the Woods. There are a lot of parallels there. It's the last Greek Easter. So Heather is like and you still filmed after all that? I'm not gonna say, well, that's a fair question. But not because I film with my mom

because it's her normal, you know? So Andy's like, wow, it seems like she has a habit of sabotaging you. When you've had success, are you sure there's been no campy gay films made about her? Already, she seems kind of ready to go. Yeah, so I've got lost where we are. So basically, he's like, it sounds like your mom's sabotages.

And she's like, yeah, by the way, like when I first started dating Mike and she saw how happy I was, and Andy goes, oh man, I'm scared to hear this. Mainly because I think of all the good stuff our cameras have missed over the years. Oh God. So she says that she brought Mike around for the first time

and he came to the house and lent us all how happy she was and so she banned him from the house. And now that is the which from into the woods, right? Like, yeah. You come around my daughter. And then like is the which from into the woods, right? You come around my daughter. And then like has the birds poke at his eyes or whatever the hell it was. I know I'm mixing up into the woods storylines, but still.

There's something missing from this story. Like Mike showed up and he was nice to her, so the mom banned him and said, you're never going to take my daughter away. So which is it? Does it look to hate you or does she love you and not want to let you go? This is all too much. Hey, I got something to say until you have the opportunity to see it from the outside looking in, you have no idea how much you're being monopoly Monopoly and Monopoly day. I'm the little I'm the little race car. I called it. I'm a symbol office now in all seriousness This guy is also a piece of shit this might guy Monica came out with an Instagram earlier this week Saying that the reason people have been asking a lot about her divorce and why

people have been asking a lot about her divorce and why would like the timeline of it basically because she talks about it Like it was a long time ago, but then we found out that the divorce was just recently this October I think was when the divorce finalized and she said that he was actually abusive and he got Arrested for abuse and then later was arrested for violating the restraining order or the protective order. So yeah, this guy's a piece of crap. So who knows what was going on there, but, oh, glad that guy is not in the fucking picture. Right? So Andy's like, yeah, you have a complicated relationship with your mom,

but it doesn't feel as like great for gay audiences. Can you tell us a story? Did you ever push her down a staircase? That'd be great. Do you ever do that? She's like, yeah, no, we just text us a story? Did you ever push them down a staircase? That'd be great. Did you ever do that? She's like, yeah, no, we just text on for birthdays and for Chris Smith. And, you know, I knew the conditions of my family.

And if I were to do the show and leave the church and I signed up for this division and she just basically says, like, like I know, I sent myself up for this. And then we talk about Whitney's mom and Whitney cries because she hasn't talked to her mom forever. And they finally kind of came back to each other and realized that a huge part of it was her father in the first place, who she doesn't have a relationship with now. And so that's, you know, all the parental stuff, there really is like a lot of sad shit in this show. Oh my God, yeah, it's Monica.

Like we're laughing about it because we're fuckers, but I mean, there really is just a lot. Right, so there really is. It's a more fun thing. Well, here's the tradition. So Whitney is like crying and she's bearing her soul about how she's reconnected with her mother. She realized she had to remove her father from her life.

And she hasn't seen him. He hasn't seen her. They avoiding each other toxicity that and then Andy Hey, Andy sleeping like a big bird. He's just like Did you did someone get there that your stairs? So we get through that here stairs. My glitchyster. So then we bring on the most evil and controversial real housewife of all time. Sashomadiyah! Here she comes in her blue feathered ball gown.

So we bring up some tweets and turns into social media fight. So there's a tweet that Monica's like, see what you want about me. Or rat, disrespectful home record, spoiled, broke, and assistant. And I loved, I loved the leaps too. Or rat, disrespectful home record, spoiled, broke, and assistant. The worst of all. the worst of all. For worse than lost.

So, she said, I made sure my girls weren't there for that situation because they were saying, why Monica, why are you acting like this around your children? You should be ashamed of yourself. And the editing made it look like the kids were sitting there the whole time that she was having these fights. And it turns out the kids were in the basement this whole time playing whatever in the

basement. In the tail in the buckle of a. So Monica was like, she's like, girl, so this was like right after our conversation with my mother. And I was like going down to the basement to get my girls to leave. And I just like started crying and like, when my eyes, I like couldn't see and like, and never been to her house before. And like, I went to grab the railing

and there was no railing and I just found out the stairs. I was like, that, okay, people fall downstairs. That's fine. And there probably should have been a railing, but like the way she describes it is again, truly like the most like, can't be gay thing of all time. She was crying so hard, she was blinded by her tears that she fell down a staircase. Like, are you kidding me?

I was cracking up at the description of it. So we see her being like, I'm not talking to you, literally, da da. So whatever. And so she storms off and we see the cameras through a mirror and then we see her turn the corner and then we just hear, put your put your put your put your put your. your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put your put put your put your put your put your put your put your And so we see the footage there is no railing on these chairs, okay? And then one of the family members I think is like, oh, whoa, you fell. Are you okay?

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She's like mortified. Because of course, she fell down her butt and now there's a camera behind her. And she's had that argument with her mom. So she takes off the shoe on her right foot and just sort of like, she kind of like throws it down the stairs. So that is the big, that is the big falling down the stairs, drama. So then, she's like, yeah, and you threatened

to sue me on Greek internet, which I think we should discuss that right now. And she's like, and she is there anything you don't have a problem with me? This coming from you, Monica, and she goes, and she's like, did I so you? You threatened to sue her. But I said, should I?

Should I? No, you didn't. You said I should. You fucker. I'm sorry. And then we see a tweet. And Monica's saying, almost hit your knees. Triple question, Mark.

You were the biggest freaking asshole. You know damn well what happened. I left your house with bumps, bloody, and bruised multiple exclamation points. I should sue your ass for not having your home to code. You fuck, and you said you piece of shit. And then I'm just like, and you also said you piece of shit. She's like, well yeah, I didn't say that. And you wear a piece of shit, because that was responding to what you said.

And then she goes, and then you threw a shoe and almost hit a Greek toddler. You almost hit a toddler with your shoe. I love that. And by the way, Tamanik is credit when we saw her throw the shoe, the shoe is definitely like just thrown down the staircase. It was not thrown to the marker.

Almost hit the baby in the toddler and the toddler would have been fine. The other one's a toddler, but she did not hurl the shoe across the room, barely messing a toddler. But again, this is why this season's so good because you have sentences like you threw a shoe and almost hit a toddler. And she's like, I didn't throw a shoe on my shoes, but I like it. Which is also a lie,

because we saw you toss the shoe. No, the butt, your shoes are like that. Basically, your butt is full of it. So Andy's like, okay, well, then what about this? You tell your side, and then I will tell my side, Greek, because you won't let me Greek talk, and you talk, and I will respond, because that is how adults do it. And then he's like, oh my God Greek because you won't let me Greek talk and you talk and I will respond because that is how adults do it.

And he's like, oh my God, thank you. Thank you. But I am good with children. So I am good with Monica. Choo-choo. Choo-choo. Eat your food and then dessert. The plane is coming in to the hangar.

Monica's like, so Monica's like, oh, I found on the freaking stairs. Okay, I'm like, once you're playing off, and my other shoe was like having on. So I ended it and I threw it down and I said, I want to go home. And I love that I actually had to rewind and watch the footage again.

Me too. And in the footage, she does not throw the shoe at a child. Ha ha, I can't with this. So those of them just over dramatizing the staircase because Monica's version is there were so many tears in my eyes. I was so emotionally moot. I was blinded and I went around the corner and fell down the stairs and broke every limb in my body and crashed into a mirror at the fun the floor. And Angie's is like, she barely fell and when she did get up she took

off her shoes and threw the matter to her face. She threw a baby into a fire pit. I'm like whoa what? So then, uh, Angie's like okay, anything else happened and she's yeah, I was bloody and I was bruised and then I went upstairs in a body cast and filmed a scene with my mother. So then we see a tweet and it says, this is from Monica says after falling down Angie stairs at Greek Easter because you had no railing all cast multiple exclamation points. Everyone saying, I left my mom. Yes, yes. And I went straight to the hospital. And she knew I fell down the stairs. And my combo with her on the couch was after I fell, which is shady again, of the editors to make it look like Monica was just sitting there,

like all pissy, the woman just, oh my god, stairs. You know, they really did it. They really did it. Yeah, they really did it to make it look like, they didn't, obviously we didn't know any of this stuff happened and it looks like she's doing this in front of the kids and all that. So they were pretty shady to Monica with this edit. Yeah. So Monica's like, she's like, yeah, she's like, in front of the kids and all that. So they were pretty shady to Monica with this edit. Yeah.

So Monica's like, she's like, yeah, she's like, so I said to my mom, like, I'm like, oh wait, on right now, and she got like an Uber, and I guess like production called like an Uber, and she said, I'm not getting a minute ship box because I was a Subaru. I was like, this is when beneficially turns.

I was like, that is officially done. No, but I was also like, good, good for her. Good for her. Who Linda? Thing like. And I was like, she does, she's like, I would like a Mercedes, please.

Absolutely. Yeah, I work for this. I worked on that for this. In the clip we saw on the internet, not on the show, but of Monica's screaming, Monica was taping her mom, while her mom was losing it at Monica, right? And they were talking about Greek Easter

and the mom's like, Monica, I don't know why you're mad at me. You're, I was trying to make it so people would still film with you, you're in someone else's house, you scream, you get someone else's Monica, and this is a job, you have to be nice to people, so they'll shit with you. And one of those, it's like, I had to go home in a shit box. Yeah.

Right. It was that. It was that. It was that. But I also love that one of their running things and their relationship is Monica has shitty credit most likely due to, well, I mean, who knows. There's like a lot of lawsuits about debt and stuff in her past and still ongoing.

But who knows, probably it's because of divorce and stuff, like people face a really tough time after that. But she's got a lot of debt or whatever. But I loved that they're running storyline is that she has to put the car under her mom's name. And then when the mom gets mad, she takes away the car. But then when Monica's mad, she makes a mom walk places or call a new replaces.

Right. Come here, shoes. Here comes one right now. So Angie's like, she's like, may I say something? And Monica's like, well, girl, you might have a better memory since you didn't hit your head. So go ahead, girl San, she's like, okay, Monica, I do have a really

good memory of the day because I had family that left because they felt it wasn't a safe environment. I just, oh, it's my turn. My turn. You go online, okay, you threaten to sue me. And then you say, I should send you the bill for the for the head scan, which you did, I should send you the bill for the head scan, which you did not pay for, production paid the bill, so now you're telling the entire internet that I broke your head. You started it with your nasty twing! So Monica cannot let her get it out, but in her defense, this is all insane.

On both sides are both nuts right now making stuff up. So Monica's like, you started with your nasty tweet and then Lisa's like, what was nasty about her tweet? So we see, we don't see the tweets again, but I repeated them because Monica started it with, say what you want about me, that I'm a ho-ah, a rat, or an assistant, but my girls were not there.

And then Angie tweets, production did you a favor. We don't need to see the stills to know you did this in front of your kids. Don't forget, you almost hit my two-year-old niece in the head with your shoe. Let's shut the fuck up with their lies about John. Mark is like, well to be fair, I had a conversation with Meredith and I told her this situation, she said, you want her house? You can take her house? Yes, I'm not like a nut.

No, no. I did not say you can take anyone's house ever We gotta take your house, but would you know the Meredith fucking said it like I think everybody knows that this is true And Heather goes married it. Did you say that and then she goes yes? She did she said let's get you this house And Meredith goes don't I see the parents potential liability there? Of course. There was potential liability. Did I tell her to steal the house? I did not. I wouldn't have heard it in such a pain. Well, it's apparent you make a living off of suing people and Monica goes, bitch, I have like never sued one person in my life. And she's like, there are multiple lawsuits under several of your names.

And she goes, who am I sued? So they're fighting now about who Angie has sued and they're just talking over each other and squealing over each other. And then Heather goes, well, you're suing me. And he goes, wait a minute, are you suing Heather? He's like, no, I am responding to her saying me. And Heather goes, well, it's a counter suit,

but you are suing me. Just, but I wouldn't have sued you. I'm just responding to you suing me. Oh. And Heather's like, yeah, but mine is a collection suit from a bill you didn't pay. And you're, and that is true. And I'm surprised I didn't go into this. I guess because it's a pending lawsuit. But Monica went and got a bunch of

work done at Beauty Lab under a different name and then never paid the bill. It was like a $2,500 bill. She paid the $499 deposit and then never paid the rest. There's a son, a son article about Monica Tweed DMing with the person or the physicians assistant or whatever who did the work on her saying oh my god I love this work. This is great work. Can't wait to see you again. I'm so sorry. I had to cancel for the next appointment Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh saying that she was unhappy and they botched her work and all of this stuff. So that's what this is all about. So, dude, dude, so Heather's like, that's a collection suit. And Andy goes, well, why is Sue back? Why not just pay your bill and she goes, God damn, no!

And I love that Monica just left to that. No, I'm not gonna pay my bill and didn't go into a whole U-batch my face. She was just like, no, I'm not gonna pay my bill. Yeah't go into a hole you botched my face. It was just like, no, I'm not gonna pay my bill. Yeah, but I like to be like, why are you so and just pay your bill? Yeah, but of course Monica's definitely not paying the bill, 100% not.

So, hey, snuggles from the bear says, Lisa, you told Monica no one wants to be your mom. Do you regret saying that? So I thought Lisa was just gonna do a simple like, well yeah, you know, after seeing that I see she has a lot of damage. But Lisa's like, no, well, I think that conversation got misconvade. Not because I was like, misconvade? And just, yeah, because I rebuttled as sophomore as you dished.

Yeah, I'm just gonna make up where it's left and right here. So like, you were the nasty one all season, not me. She's like, girl, I was not the nasty one. You see my fucking bitch, or a skank? Like, I was responding to the energy that I was giving girl. Oh yeah, fix your face, fix your eyes. Look at your ugly face, that's things you said.

And she's like, why are you addressing Angie? She called Meredith to trampoline with eyes. The man's like, yeah, but that means that her face is smooth and tied. I was being nice with that one. At least it's like, I wanna be a trampoline with eyes. They're just like all gaslighting this. After it's like, yeah, I'm like,

I pay a lot of money to like try and look like a trampoline with eyes. That's a total compliment. They're like, now they're just like really unborn to being like, sure, let's just sell this trampoline with eyes thing, why not? Who's not gonna make this whole time? It was a comment in the middle of the vicious fight, that's all.

So then Monica, who just got on Lisa for not being able to pronounce words, by the way, if she was correct, now Monica goes, oh yeah, well, two shat, two shat bitch, two shat. What does two shat mean? She gets what does too shit mean? Yeah, I was like too shit. Oh my god, this is Bravo, Bravo slubbers having a hard time this season with phrases between her and Olivia. So then Lisa's like, you're a dasty to women, you are.

So you girl, no I'm not. Okay, I made a comment and you can cling onto whatever comment you want. I'm sure I'm saying, why don't you gas in a marriage? I'm like, it's not of your business if I was nasty to Meredith because we fixed our stuff. Okay. And you started with a piece of shit and you said, call me the 1% whatever. And then they start like talking over there.

They just start yelling over each other about like who dish it you can't dish it. You can dish it but you can't take it. And you just literally crumples in his chair. Yes, I can't please I can't do this anymore Please and the Lisa goes this is why your mom talks to a tree you don't listen She's oh my god. Don't my mom in my face. Oh, yeah, you're so manipulative You're so manipulative. And she's like, what do you mean I'm manipulative? You just said it! So they're screaming. And so Lisa's like, I'm gonna get very direct with you.

So then Monica's, you know, squeaking about, oh my gosh, you said nobody wants to be my mother. She'll slap it. It's because you said that I'm not your mom. Oh my God. And then Monica goes, the Monica, you know, see, this is a thing. They both, they just go so low. It's like, how can you pick a side? Because then Monica goes, the Monica, you know, see, this is a thing. They both, they just go so low.

It's like, how can you pick a side? Because the Monica goes, how could you even say that when your husband's adopted, you're disgusting? Oh my god. And then Whitney covers her nose. And she's like, Oh my god, this is hurting my ears. Why, why can't I still hear it? She's like, uh, you're covering her, you're covering your nose with me.

Oh, okay. Thank you. You're welcome your nose with me. Oh, okay, thank you. You're welcome. What? Hey, you know what, John wasn't even offended by the adoption comment, because I told him he shouldn't be offended. And he said, okay. So then, Mark was like,

well, I don't even know what your problem is with me. Like, dad asked, I don't know what your problem is with me. Which Monica, okay, come on now. So Heather's like, we'll give it a minute and then we'll let you know. Monica's like, Dad, ask! And so, Andy goes, okay, well she'll tell you in a little while. Okay, so my blood is from saccharinsus Lisa. What did you mean when you said that we were dealt the same deck of cards when you were

talking about Monica. Just, oh my god. So Lisa goes, okay, lock. I look at things in the most positive way possible. I'm Monica just LOLs and she's like, I do. Listen, like I didn't know a thing about your relationship with your mom and I asked you at the sound path, I was like, why do you hate your mother and I asked you at the sound back I was like why do you hate your mother and why do you want us to hate your mother and I asked you like four times and you didn't have an answer you just said you'll see and Andy goes well we did see we didn't see well the bottom line is you look when stop you said I'm mediocre you went after my family you said nasty things about my husband who you don't't even know, you said you don't like Diet Coke, you don't even like Wendy's, like what's up with that?

And Mark is like, what did I think even about John? And they all are like, and just like, you called him up, penis head. I don't even remember that. I think they remember it, but it's like, he's always had that. He's always had that. He's always had that.

You called him a penis head. So funny, and Andy just stares at the the camera like we are there in Golden Girls. He's like, this is what I'm feeling. This is what it's come to my another guy's. Why? Why would you call John a penis head? And you go, and then five minutes later, you wanted to fuck him. Holy, ho. Holy, Sally, okay.

Sally from Field TV Movie of the Week says, what is Monica? I have so many identities on Google. So your maiden name was Fowler. Is that correct? And she goes, no, my maiden name was Darn Out. Oh, my maiden name is Gory Fowler. Gory.

And he goes, okay, well, what is Delgado? Well, that's my dad's side. Okay. What's Garcia? Well, that's my mother's side. Because my mother was born Linda Darnal, Susan Maria Garcia. Okay. And when she was growing up, she was teased for being a portagee. And so she was called racist things all the time.

So when she became legal, she was ashamed and became Linda Darnal. So when I was born, I was Linda Darnel. I was Monica Linda Darnel. And that name means nothing to me. So when I was getting a divorce, I changed it 20 times. Oh, okay. Okay. It makes total sense. Now, you know, I know some people don't want to think of Linda as like a gay icon, but nothing is campier than the fact that Monica's mom's name is Linda Darnell, Susan Maria Garcia. Like that is like, I was like, it's perfect. It's perfect. Don't change a thing. So Andy brings up when her mom was like, oh come on Monica Darnell. And Monica getting super pissed because she just outed her real name or whatever on TV.

And Monica's like, why would you call me that? She's, oh, I'm sorry, Monica, I just don't know what your fucking name is. You changed it every other week. So Andy's like, okay, so you've used four names, just no, I've used three names. She goes, well, the one I was born with, the one when I got married, and

when I got divorced, I was like, oh, actually, I guess that is a fair amount of, like that is, that's not actually out of the album. Okay, but why did you use three different ones, just a beauty lab alone? I mean, come on. The bull that does that too. Come on. There is something like, there's probably like a tiny bit of truth in that, but she does have tons of lawsuits and they're all under different names. And I'm sorry, that's just fishy. It's just, you know, bringing up like my mom was traumatized.

You know, it all comes back to like some kind of past trauma. There's too many names. I'm sorry. There's too many name changes to just be normal. Let's fishy. So, to me. So then she's like, but then, oh, and then she says, but the fact like people here were making fun of the fact that I was using

Delgado Adriano Garcia or whatever. What did she say, Driano? Because I could, I rewind it like three times. I was like, is that another name? Or do you think she was trying to say Darnal? And it was just, I think it was maybe not. I think it was maybe not. Because I only wrote down the Lugato Garcia, but there probably was a lot. I mean, you know, Monica's always gonna pull out another name.

And so she said that she had combined it into her. So I can't bear you. I use three names. So when people accuse, one of them is Nikki also, which you could say here, but one of them is Monica Nikki something. But she's like, I can't bear you.

I've only used three names. Jennifer Patricia Penelope and Bruce. Wait a minute, those are four names and those are different than all the ones you've listed. I'm Monica Delgado Garcia, Silverstone Corvette, McDonald's, Francisco. This is brand. It's like time Warner. Time Warner, peacock and BC universe salt.

Wait a minute. So, uh, near all these. And then all these writers were saying, I was thinking advantage of them. It's a crush. So then Lisa's like, wait. So alone. So we missed the main point of this, making stupid jokes.

So she is saying that there were accusing her of basically changing her name to look more Latina just to get on the show. And Lisa goes, who said that? She's like, you did Lisa? I did not say that. Do not look at me and say that when I did not say that because you're saying that I said something that I did not say when I did not say that because you're saying that I said something that I did not say. I did not say that.

So this is actually an important point for a little bit later, at least because you know who said that? John. Am I like, no, she didn't. And she's like, yes, she did. And Monica's, so you're just like repeating what Jen says now. Like that's what you do. You just repeat what Jen says.

Which is important because later on, Monica's like, oh, it wasn't me, I was just like the whole voice melting later, is like, I wasn't talking, I wasn't saying that about Mary, I was just repeating what Jen said. Well, it's also annoying because Monica does the housewives thing where she fights

by over talking you and just repeating things over and over. It makes me nuts, but it is a tried and true housewives. What do you call it in war when you have a strategy? It's a tried and true strategy, but it makes me fucking crazy because I want to know, like there's a lot of mystery here. And Lisa goes, yeah, well, Jen said you went by different names and then starts going, like she's listening off. She's like, and then Monica over talking goes, and goes oh really so we're just going off with

Jen Shrott like I want to hear what you're saying and Lisa goes you fake fucking bitch and then Monica just goes she does her like squeal-sight thing so then we go to commercial and we come back and we start talking about Jack Barlow because he was seen in California in his mission garb. What happened? At least he's like, oh yeah, he bought some of his mission. So he was like not going. He's just like, I got out with friends, surfing, doing all the good stuff.

Oh, and he's like, okay, like what really happened. So it turns out that his paperwork was behind and he didn't have a visa yet, which other vouchers force as like that is. Something that happens when the visa's not ready, they just send the kids state side to their missionary in places like California. But then Lisa says, and by the way, Jack is like the real reason why we had to wait so long because he has a great six pack, yeah. And like he took a picture on the boat of himself like shirtless. He was like, hey, and he likes that. That's the

government first visa. Thinking that it's like really funny, and they like denied it. So he had to like reapply. Well, then absolute dumbass. What a dumbass. Like, I'm sorry. This kid does something just massively dumbass ever singly. This is like not a charming story.

Like, I would be mortified as a parent if I had to tell a story that my son couldn't get his visa because it took a thirst trap selfie and sent it to the government. But to Lisa, it's more important to show that she's a good parent because her son has a six pack. She's like, yeah. I mean, he has a six pack, so I mean, good parenting, am I right? Like I based him right. I don't understand how you can have a six pack and Puffy bangs because the six pack implies that you care about how you look But the Puffy bangs says the exact opposite no, but a lot of Puffy Puffy hair guys have six. I mean they all have it

They literally all have it though the kids that age so what are you gonna do? That's their hair the Puffy white fucking comb for hair There's nothing you can do to stay but when they showed his combed for hair. There's nothing you can do. When they showed his naming ceremony, the letter ceremony, he was like, I got my letter and it is for Bhagavata Kalabhiyah. And then it just showed like the sea of white boys with their hair pushed word and fuzzed up like, oh, it's just in the words. I just heard for them because I know in the future they're going to look back at that and they're just going to be so ashamed. Like we have that, you know, we have pictures from the fucking 80s and 90s. I mean, listen future they're going to look back at that and they're just going to be so ashamed. Like, we have that.

You know, we have pictures from the fucking 80s and 90s. I mean, listen, we're no innocence, but we just know the pain. You know, that's one thing about being older. You know what, you know what pain that the past causes? I know. I think the difference is that we have pictures from the 80s and 90s and our hair was kind of the same, but also that was the 80s and 90s. So like, why are you having

your hair? We didn't have hair like that. I mean, I had clawbings. I had like the swoop like when I had hair. My mom, me and my sister both had like clawbings that like went up and show. Oh, yeah. And we even got a painting done at Dillard's, um, us. And I have forever a painting of myself giving resting bitch face with Shrewp hair and a maroon turtle neck. I am yeah I for a long time at a bull cut and then in like fifth grade because my mom used to cut my hair and then fifth grade I actually went to a barber and then I got like a part and so we just

sort of go to the right like this and that was like my look for the next like six years of my life and then but like there were a lot, if you look back, there were a lot of puffy bags in the 80s and you would just would think that people would learn from the mistakes. We don't learn. But they don't. Yeah, we don't learn.

I mean, read history. Okay, so now they're talking about from the mistakes. I mean, hello, did you watch the first 40 minutes of this video? Of course you did in jobs. So Heather, they talk about like why Heather was so traumatized by Jack's mission. So we go over that and Heather's like, you know, it just reminds me what I grew up with

and what I no longer have, you know, because I was invited, but I knew why, but I still thought hertons had. And Lisa's like, well, listen, you know, it's not because you're not in the church. Whitney's not in the church. She has a pole in her house. She's so good to come. Yeah. And so basically, Andy's like, well, you know, at the moment, you're kind of like Heather. You're kind of like a hater towards the church. So why would she include you? And Heather's like, yeah, but when you got to go, you know, and what needs like, but do you understand why I had a basic level of respect, not wanting to

talk about it? Because when he's really upset that Heather called her a hypocrite for wanting to go. And Heather's like, no, it's just, it's basically just says like, you know what? Like for me, I just didn't understand if this was like a belief system that this is, we understand how much damage it can do, what it stands for. And then all of a sudden we're gonna be like, oh, good, good luck. Have fun.

Like she was just grappling with it. So then we go on break and he announces that Mary Cosby is gonna come and Whitney's like, hop'll be at lunch then. Burn, burn, I just burned her good. So then we go to break Monica's in her dressing room and Mary comes in to say hi and Monica's like, I mean, I need my queen. She's just doing like her squeal compliment thing. And so she's like, this has been a real blood bath.

Like they're all coming for me. They're like with an endless. And Mary's like, why do they feel like you did them wrong? And so they're done with you without you even having a chance to explain why. I have not as many hours have they been out there for Christ's sake. I know. I know. You can say a lot about a reunion, especially this one, but you're not going to say that Monica didn't get a chance to speak. Come on. Yeah, Marcus, I am not explain my situation. I'm like, you have done nothing,

but talk this entire time. Like the only time Monica has been quiet was talking about Jack's mission. The rest of it's just been her being like, so like she is not stopped. And so, but of course she paints it like, I haven't been able to say a word. They're just coming for me.

As if you did not, did not, you know, like have at account that was making fun of them all on the internet. She just sort of always phrases it in a way. Like, I'm just so innocent. The big boom. Yeah. So Mary, so we come back. So Mary comes out and Andy's like,

well, plops in 2003, Dom, Pair and Young, cause we're joined by our whole friend Mary M. Cosby, Mary, great to see you at a reunion final. And she's like, okay, that's not funny. And you're gonna make me pay for that forever because she did any rubs it in. He's like, well, we did miss you with the last reunion that you weren't at in season two and you refused to come.

And we put an entire body of water in the center of the stage for someone to fall and you didn't even take that chance to slip when you could have taken whatever. She goes, well, I didn't come because, first of all, I always treated the entire season and then how things were allegedly said that were completely not true and I didn't feel comfortable so I didn't come. And I was like, yeah, but it's okay. So when you're on Lodge Rapids Live, I ask you why you came back to the show.

And you said to help you guys out, wondering if the other women did you feel like you needed the other women back to you to come back wondering if the other women, did you feel like you needed the other women back? Did you come back to the other women? I get a second sentence. Hey, other women, did you tell you didn't marry God to come back to help out? And they're all like, I think kissing her butt, like I don't really see why, but I was like,

I did, we totally needed Mary. And you see kind of shades of Jen, you know, like how she would treat Jen with kind of kid gloves. And I think she's doing that. She's like, oh yeah, we totally needed Mary. And Angie's like, yeah, there was some, come eat it, we'll leave there for a Greek sure.

And Mary's like, oh Angie, this is your first year. Where are you even answering? She was like, she was being nice to you. She was, oh, she was. Well, and he's like, yeah, she said we needed a colleague. I mean, I believe, you know? So then Andy starts talking to Heather, and then Angie turns to Mary,

and it's like, by the way, you have lipstick on your teeth, and then Mary's like, oh, thanks. And that apparently is all it takes because now Mary loves Angie. So I had a big difference here. I didn't even notice that. I was like, wow, what happened with Mary and Angie? No, it turned so quickly.

Angie was like, you have lipstick on your teeth. So, you know, Annie is like, what do you think about Mary and Heather? And Heather's like, well, you never know what you're gonna get with Mary Cosby. And that's kind of the fun. You know, makes filming really exciting. And I felt like she was back. I love what you're gonna get with Mary Cosby, and that's kind of the fun. You know, makes filming really exciting. And I felt like she was back.

I love the fun of not knowing what Mary Cosby's gonna say. I'm like, until she says she hates you. Which is, she's like, the only thing you know you're gonna get with Mary Cosby is dist. So that's fine. That's gonna be great segment. Mary, so he has Mary who who she likes and she goes, well, I like Angie.

So, true me, I love you doing great on the show. And she's like, oh, I mean, I love your 10 years. God, you're good. You really good on the show. You remember you just gave her a huge amount of attitude about 30 seconds ago. Nope.

That's a lie. So, she has also Monica's pretty. I like her, and Meredith, and that's it. And Heather, I liked you until I saw your interview about me. She was, what are you talking about? Because about my house, saying, oh, you get to tour Mary's house,

and making fun of my house. And then we see the clip of Heather being like, oh my God, the decor is just like her personality, a big dog, I mean, she's just so great as in she's amazing. It's like getting the hangout with one of the popular kids. Let me just get Chanel pillows,

she's got green carpet, she's got like throne chairs. I mean, like a person from Whovelle, it's amazing. You don't like the reaction to your house, but we're like all fine with your reaction to us. And we're like, I don't say anything to you. What do I say about you, Lisa? Oh, okay. And Mary says nothing about anybody.

Roll flip. It's just Mary like idiot moron. Mary says plenty of terrible things in her interviews too. Just as snarky as Heather and the Dr. Seuss chairs. And by the way, Mary, your chairs are wild Dr. Seuss chairs. Okay, like sometimes you have to face certain truths about your chairs. Yeah. So she's like, I didn't say anything about you Lisa.

Name one thing. And she goes, well, I made okay, maybe not that side. So and he goes, okay, well, what will I do? You didn't call Heather in bread. She goes, yeah, what's worse? Herb making a comment about your house, are you calling her in bread? And see if a cliff of other going,

so do you really think I look in bread and very going, yeah, yeah. And so, Marigas, I think the house comments worse. And he's like, your day, core? She goes, well, because Heather's phoneing, like don't come to my house and say it's so pretty. Okay, Heather's like, well, I said your house was grand. It has elements that are unique, that are characteristic.

It has huge throne-like chairs that no one else in this planet would buy, except for someone who was conned by someone else who may have been Dr. Seuss. That's all I said. And she's like, well, I was in my house before the show and I didn't need this and you got your house after the show. Yeah, okay, you're gonna money shame people, Mary's like, well, I was in my house before the show and I didn't need this and you got your house after the show. Yeah, okay, you're gonna money shame people, Mary.

She's not living off tithing of poor people and businesses they got, she got ahold of by marrying her dead grandmother's husband, okay? Are you fucking kidding me right now? Now listen, Mary's very, very funny on the show. I'm glad she's back, but coming back here and shaming where people got their money considering where you got yours is a lot. It's a choice. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so then Heather's like,

after my business, I got my house after my business. I'm like, which grew because of the TV show. So Andy's like, well, what did she say about the house with me that bothered you? And she's like, she just made fun. They just all made fun. So others like, well, you know what, you're welcome to make fun of my house. And I was just commenting on what I saw and I was excited to be invited. Okay, all right.

It's really interesting because you say everything that people's faces and it's shocking, Margas, thank you. Thank you. I'm saying thank you, because I say it to your face. Thank you. So then we see her greatest tips from the season. What made you wear that necklace?

And do you have a mute button? You need to get one. And then telling Monica, you really like to eat her beautiful girl. Don't just eat your life away. And then the best. Wake up, Bob, I'm going to head. It's not good.

I'm like, is that really saying something to someone's face? Or are you just insulting them at that point? What is? It's insulting. It's insulting them, but she's like, at least really saying something to someone's face? Or are you just insulting them at that point? What is? It's insulting. It's just insulting them, but she's like, at least I do it to your face. And Andy's like, yeah, but you say horrible things,

but to people's face. And she's like, yeah, but they can say it back. I mean, that's what Jesus said, Andy, you know? When people piss you off, dissimilate to their face, you know? Jesus is real big about just calling people over eaters. That's not his thing. So, Jesus is like, yeah, but like when we do it and you know, you said, oh, I'm not talking

to you anymore, then that's the end of the conversation. That's it. And Mary was like, why is she budding in? Who's talking to you? Because I'm part of this. What happened to you? What happened? He says like, you say something horrible to me. and then you don't like what I'm saying.

But like, whatever I'm saying, it's not even the same magnitude. And you're like, oh, I'm not talking to Lisa now. And she goes, yeah, how do you even insert yourself? And Andy says, well, she's responding because she's a member of the group. And I said, sometimes you say horrible things to the group to their face. So that's why she's responding. And she says, yeah, but I think it's a good thing that you're saying things to the group, to their face. So that's why she's responding. It's just, yeah, but I think it's a good thing that you're saying this to the group, that I say things to the group's face.

I call my God. Are you guys, is this the third act of clue? Like what's happening? And basically the argument is, why can't it marry being asked hold to everybody? But if anybody makes a comment about one of her chairs, you know, Mary's like not happy about it, right? Right. So then Mary goes, okay, Lisa, well, our relationship has been done.

And Lisa goes, yeah, you know what, so what? So what? So what? Hey, let's talk about Robert Jr. Is he married or not? And Mary's like, well, they say they're married, but I haven't seen that. He's like, so do they need to show you paper? Well, it worked. And she's like, to prove to me they're married. Yeah, yeah, they do. Okay. And you don't believe him. And she goes, well, I just, I can't even

say it. I can't even say, I'm always like, get your girlfriend because I keep calling her the girlfriend. I can't even say wife. I can't do it. So he's like, okay. And then you said he was bad and bad. Why'd you say that? And then we see unseen footage of her telling her hairdresser. She's like, you know, I just, I was walking down the hall and I like heard them and they were doing stuff and I just heard all this screaming

and I was like, oh God, stop making my son think he's better than he is. I mean, that's just funny. So that's funny, I love that. Like, oh God, stop's just funny. So, it's funny, I love that. Like, oh God, stop faking it. You're giving this kid too much confidence, you know? Yeah, she's like, Andy, Andy, I didn't think, I didn't say he's bad and bad.

I just told the wife or the girlfriend, stop pretending because I walk past her room and all of her's just like noise and all this screaming and all this dramatic. And I was like, I was like, it's not that serious. Okay, like don't give them a bigger head than he already has. I mean, like, come on. And she was like, but it was like yelling.

And I was like, yeah, like, what's wrong? Like I thought something was like wrong. And like at that point, I was like, I just like, when I opened the door and then I started to open the door, but then I saw it. So I like at the point, I didn't open the door. So she basically walked in and she was traumatized. So then Whitney is asked like how did she feel about Mary coming back and Whitney's like how do I feel when I'm trying

to put words together in the alphabet Sue nervous. That's how. And I'm nervous like Whitney's terrified for some reason. And when he's like, no, how is Grapeville to have the opportunity to try to resolve things with her? I did not like how it ended. I felt bad because I wanted the opportunity to repair that and to show that I'm really good with Carpool after all. And you have to realize that that came out you and like was not what we were saying It was just in the press it was in the news

So what he's saying oh we weren't gossiping about you It just was in the news and we were responding to it. I was like okay you guys spent the entire last third of season two Talking about Mary and bringing the guy from the congregation and talking about all the stuff that was going on And now what needs gonna say like no we were just responding to stuff in the press a guy from the congregation and talking about all the stuff that was going on. And now Whitney's going to say, like, no, we were just responding to stuff in the press. Yeah, I mean, Mary totally has a reason to hate Whitney's guts and everybody who brought that up. But your own mother was in the press saying that you stole the church from her by marrying

your dad, grandma's husband and stealing everything that was supposed to be your mom. So as gross and messy as it is, okay, but you're just saying that they don't say it to your face, but then they did bring it up to your face after they after Lisa brought it behind your back the whole season, by the way, okay, I'm not all this stuff is like flooding back as I'm talking about it, but this stuff about Mary was really bad. And I'm not gonna just be like, oh poor Mary was a total victim. I mean, the video, the audio that was leaked of her yelling at her church and calling them poor people

because they only gave her 14 cards for her birthday and saying like, I don't wanna be around a bunch of poor people. I mean, you're either poor or you're stingy. You're not even paying all your tithes and yelling at them. Oh, it just was really, it just got so ugly. But that said, um, I can see why she hates them for it, you know.

Hmm. Yeah, for sure. It's crazy. There's a moral side of our thing. It's nothing makes sense. Nothing makes sense. Where do I fall on this? Where do I fall on the girl who married her step-grandfather in stealing the mom's church and then yelled at the church congregants for being poor or am I mad at Lisa for bringing in somebody who is victimized by the church to a party and having him speak on it? So yeah, I mean this shows disaster and I on it. So, yeah, I've been this show's disaster and I love it. Um, so, Mary's like, it's not true. And like I said, there was like a lot of things that came out and I know about you and I will

never ever say that. Like, you know, what you guys did to me, you know, I heard horrible things about you, but I never said it and I won't because that's who I am. Which is basically what Meredith always does too, but here they're like, yeah, it's okay, Mary's doing it. Like, yeah. Meredith, they're like,

hey, you're alluding. You're alluding. You're threatening and they're like, it's Mary. This time it's just Mary. Well, once again, I say, one minute you're saying they don't say things to your face, but then they did say things to your face and you're still pissed.

So she's like, well, I wouldn't do that to you. So Andy's like, well, Jim from Jones says, Whitney, don't you see the calling people predators is bad? Okay. And she's like, well, it's because like, I have my own trauma. I was like, oh god, here we go. Like everybody blames everything on trauma. She's like, I have my own trauma from being in a high demand religion. So I apologize. I don't think you're a predator, Mary. She goes, I'm not. And neither is my husband. And so, um, wow. So Andy is like, Whitney, you tweeted, I cannot sit and listen to this evil and mean woman talking about growth. O M F G dead face. And that was on October 17th, 2023. So that a recent one. So with me coming back and acting like,

what? I can't believe Mary is mad at me. What? I know. I'm when you say, well, it's just like hard because I feel like I personally have like put so much work into like myself and like I spent thousands and thousands of dollars on therapy and also pole dancing glasses. And I've been like making a conscious effort to be a better person and to see you talk about us that way To see like what you would say in your confessionals at that that that I'm very like oh So you're tweeting and cursing and calling me names as growth really is that what you're saying Which is like you got her there. Yeah, exactly.

And she goes, but I wouldn't have done that if you hadn't tweeted about me. And she goes, well, I didn't tweet anything about you. And then Whitney just makes that face. I'm like, am I wearing any makeup? And then, I'm a friend of mine. One of my best friends used to say that growing up all the time, Cheryl, used to go, am I wearing any makeup.

So Andy goes, well, you said she's racist, and we see the clip, the tweet, Mary is saying, this tells me Whitney is racist too, but it doesn't say what she's responding to. So I have no idea what this tweet was responding to or what was racist. So Mary goes, oh yeah. The phrase before that was Mary goes,

I didn't tweet anything about you. I just said you were a racist. Yeah. That's it. So, and he's like, yeah, okay, so you said she was racist and she says, yeah, I did. And he said, do you believe that? And she goes, I do 100% I do.

And then everyone gasps, like, oh, what? And when he goes, that breaks my heart. Oh, my God. He's like, oh, what? And when he goes, that breaks my heart. Oh my God. He's like, so what's this based on? And she goes, well, you know,

what they were brought up in, you know, the religion that they were brought up in, you know, I believe that they have their beliefs. And they have, like, their belief is that our color is cursed by the color of Cain. And we'll be in a different heaven. And that will be hell.

And Lisa's like, um, hi, I'm a Mormon. Can someone be hell. And Lisa's like, um, hi, I'm a Mormon. Can someone ask me and they're like, we're not going to Lisa for Mormon expertise? No, getting because Andy goes, Heather is that true? She's, what about me? I'm as Mormon. It's Heather. He's like, no, no, we're going to, we're going to actually go to the woman who wrote a book who is against Mormonism because she's a more reliable source. Well, let's all, yeah, Lisa, who owns a tequila company. I'm so sure. So Lisa also, this is a more reliable source. Well, that's all, yeah. Lisa, who wants a tequila company? I'm so sure. So Lisa also, this is a conversation about racism.

And Lisa's like, hey, wait a minute, I'm just as Jewish as anybody. I mean, I'm just as Mormon as anybody else here. I mean, come on, I'm a Mormon Jew. You should go come on. I'm a Jewish woman, so I was like, not helping. That doesn't actually make you more of an expert on this. It's actually literally not really confusing.. It's, it doesn't make sense. So I'm like, I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian Jew.

Listen, I've heard of Jews for Jesus, but I don't know if I've heard of Jews for Joseph Smith personally. So I'm not saying those for Joseph. I wasareports. Oh God, it's just Joe. It's of Joseph Smith were running for mayor. It'd be like, choose for Joe. So yeah, she's full of it. Also, this is a conversation about racism, but also this is also a conversation about a tweet that said, this tells me Whitney's racist too. So I want to know what they were originally talking about and I still have no idea. But the point about Mormons being the Mormon

church being racist, I mean duh, yeah, it's true. I mean, they just allow, they didn't allow black people to be to get to the temple level where you actually go to the temple until like 1978. I mean, come on. Yeah, Heather says that the Mormon doctrine is rooted in racism, but like the Mormon church today is making efforts on every level to have outreach. I'm like, okay. So Whitney is like, I just, you know, married, I just want marriage now because it's a good big accusation to make

that I am no longer a member of the Mormon church and that was part of my process. And Mary's like, well, by the way, I don't have anything against the Mormon church either. Like, it's like this weird, like, backpedal. And Andy's like, but you just said it's a racist church. Cause yeah, but doesn't mean I've anything against them. Now, if the Mormon church had said I'd bad decor,

now we'd have an issue. And she's like, I mean, it's just a religion. Like, I don't have anything against them. I just, you know, I just wish we could like, just leave it alone. And Lisa goes, and that's fair, that's fair, Mary. Let me tell you, as someone who has been barmitsified in long johns. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, Whitney's like, but I look. They're on the temple. You know what? They've been there. Well, actually, temple does go both ways.

Never mind. That one doesn't work. I'm gonna workshop that one. Go ahead, Ben. We're all women of white privilege. And Mary's like, oh, go ahead. Breach, preach a witch. You've been saying some good things lately.

I have to say that. I couldn't tell Mary was being sarcastic or not. And Whitney goes, but I've been learning Mary. I want to know personally what, what have I done or said to you? And Mary's like, it's not anything you say, it's your actions, it's a feeling, and you have to be my color to know it.

And so now when he's like, that's fair, it's like a that's fair off. That's fair, that's fair, that's fair, that counts, that counts. Good goal kick, That's fair. Listen, as we would say in the old days to our multiple spouses, Lahim. Mary's like, it's just not like I have a little I know about both religions. I've been loving to have the I'm sitting here trying to make a pun, but I just can't think of enough Mormon stuff. I'm like, listen, as I used to, as I used to see on my favorite show, Big Love of Hala. It just want to say it's fair. It's like instead of Christmas tree, Christmas tree concerts, it's menorah concerts. You know what, Christmas tree concerts?

Christmas tree concerts. Do you have that, does? So, Andy's like... I guess you don't. No, I don't. What'd you say? Christmas tree concerts. Christmas tree concerts or Christmas tree concerts? I didn't walk a fellow center concert.

No, Christmas tree concerts. So, my friend Neil of the past present podcast, who he's a historian and like he specializes in a lot of things, but he has, including a lot of stuff. I don't know if this is actually a Mormon thing. That's just maybe a Christian thing. There are these concerts where these enormous Christmas trees are built. And people stand in the Christmas trees and sing songs. our builds and people stand in the Christmas trees and sing songs. They stand in the Christmas tree? In the Christmas trees and they sing. I don't know what you mean.

Like they stand in like a field of trees. I mean, look. I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm

big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm big, big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, big, I'm a big, not weird though. I mean, I guess I've never thought of it if you're a career. It's like a tree of people. Okay, wait. How do I like people like the shape of a tree? It's people. The tree is people. The tree has made out of people. I don't think it's a more I thought was a Mormon thing. I think it's just a Christmas thing. Hold on. Let me find. Three of people. Christmas tree of people. Here, I'm gonna send you this.

I'm gonna send you this. I'm gonna send you this picture so it makes sense. It's literally a tree of people. But for a moment I thought it was a Mormon thing but I think it's just, I don't think it is. Okay. It's a Christmas tree. Oh, I do.

So it's like people standing on platforms. Oh, it looks kind of like the, it looks like kind of Hollywood squares where they're all kind of platforms, right? But it's on the save of three. Oh yeah, I'm curious to see that. That's kind of cute though. It's kind of like a lesbian, burglary type thing.

Like let's make a match. You know what it is? It's like a very large version of the match game. Yeah, I mean, look, I, I say, let's make a match. You know what it is? It's like a very large version of the match game. Yeah, I mean, look, I say, let's bring something, you know, let's bring something a little different to me and O'Jingle Bells. I'm for it. And by the way, I just wanna say the picture

that I brought up is from an article called The Rise of the Singing Christmas Tree and guess who wrote it, Neil. See? Oh, no way, so there you go. Well, they, someone missed picture day because there's one little part of the tree missing. Do you see it up there? What the fuck? And Denise didn't come to Christmas tree. Basing you Christmas tree. Yeah. They're like one Christmas and missing day.

Did you fall? Did Denise just like, sorry. She fell. She's like, I told them I could not do a tear above level four. And they put me at the top. Can I also just say these microphones, they're at the very bottom of the tree, all the way to the left and all the way to the right. How is that supposed to help? Like who's miking this, you know?

Okay, I'm a Christmas tree. So then we go back to the reunion and Andy's like, so Mary, you weren't at the finale. What do you think about all this reality Vante stuff? And Mary just kind of flinches. And she's like, well,, you weren't at the finale. What do you think about all this reality Vante stuff? And Mary just kind of flinches. And she's like, well, I thought it was over the top that they just pushed Monica out, especially since no one reflected on themselves.

You know, I mean, I don't know what this troll account is or anything like that. And this goes, oh yeah? Well, how would you like it if the account called you? It's a batch. She goes, well, I probably wouldn't like that But I don't care because I get called everything on the internet. So what do I care? Like really you just got mad that somebody made fun of the Chairs in your house

She's like, what are they thinking about my chair is more importantly? That's what that let's get down to it, you know? Samonika's like, I mean girl, like, what if I could like friend called like another good friend, like garbage or who can go like fuck herself girl. And so, at least it's like, yeah, you know, because you know, I'm gonna say that you called Mary a dumb bitch, and that's why you're speaking up and saying that. And she's, no, no one can call that. And so Lisa's like, play the audio.

So then Heather Whips out her phone and starts playing the audio while Monica's going, oh yeah, just get the audio while Monica's going, oh yeah, just get the audio from my best friend, you bitches! I love the modica, it's just such a big, when she gets like a villain mode, she's just like, you bitches, I don't work like that. So now we have audio, and this is like the one of the voice mails that were circling around the internet like last week or two weeks ago. And so we had this audio,

basically Monica being like, exactly, that's why I called her a snake. Like you dumb bitch, like lookie, I went on like, do you marry from like a burner like out. And she's saying like, maybe I should do it from reality bond teas. Maybe I'll do that instead. And Mary's going,

what, who, what are they talking about? And he's like, you, it's a pal, yo, Monica's, no, it's not about you. And you guys, it's not fair for you to play one side of something and make it look a certain way. And nobody, which, I mean, kind of, but, sorry, it's evidence. Like it's evident, this is a witch trial

and this is at least her bringing evidence these days, you know? And so she's like, nobody said anything about Mary. So then we hear more of the recording and Monica's going I mean girl she probably wouldn't even see her but I'd be like bitch like I'm oh I could do it from reality vantes And I know she'd be waiting on that she'd be watching that shit like Monica's such a weirdo So she's really going off in these messages, but in her defense, these messages, she does sound like a complete stalker and a weirdo. But she's not calling Mary a bitch. Well, it's hard to, this one in particular, it was like, we were talking about it on

crap the hour, which coming up on this Monday. And it was sort of hard to understand the context of what was going on. And Monica is now saying, well, I wasn't talking about Mary. And then Heather's like, well, was it a different Mary? Was it the Mary who fell off the Christmas tree? I mean, you're gonna just dump a DM on the burner account and Monica's like, no girl, that was like, Jen who was saying it about her. So now Monica earlier was like,

oh, so you're just repeating, thought that Jen says is now fully using that as her defense. Like, I was just repeating what Jen was saying. That's all. So she's saying it's not about Mary. I have to agree. I don't think it sounds like it's about Mary at all. She's saying it starts with her going,

oh yeah, that's why I said you dumb bitch. That's why exactly why I called her a snake. Like you dumb bitch. Like Loki, I want to be a Mary from like a burner account. Yeah, I mean, she's great. I agree. her a snake, like you dumb bitch. Like low key I want to DM Mary from like a burner account. Yeah, I mean, she's great. I mean, she's great. She's great. Someone else is snake in a dumb bitch and she's gonna get Mary on their ass now by DMing Mary.

That's what I'm getting some from. I agree. She doesn't have any people with Mary and Mary is like one of her few allies left. So I don't really agree, but I just thought it was really funny that like Monica is such a bravo star. She is such a tamerah in that she will attack you for something and then use that same thing as her own defense. Monica has a couple of points here. I think her good.

She's like, Jen was one who said it, which is what you just said, but she goes, but it's not fair that you're playing on my side, but you're not playing the other sides, which is Tanisha, obviously, right? And whoever else was this like, Khoa and the other people who are also part of reality vantes. She's saying like Tanisha ratted her out, but they're not playing everything that Tanisha said, which I think is true. But at the same time, you're the one who got cast on the show, like you used it and spun

it into you getting cast on the show. And now you're the one who kind of has to take the heat for it because otherwise it becomes 20 people, like 20 assistants who were just like scheming. And we don't want to watch a show about all these assistant scheming because of housewives. Like it's kind of gross. We need one to focus on.

And that's you. You're the one who got caught. And you turned it into a reality career. And she also made such an effort to get ahead of her other scandals. And she was like so upfront, like, I had an affair. This happened to me. And this happened to me. And this happened to me.

So the fact that she did not try to get ahead of this one then sort of really makes her look more guilty. You know, like I think like she could have said, guys, I have a confession and I really wanna come clean about it and it's been weighing on me and I really, I want, it's gonna make you guys mad but I really want, like they probably would have been like, how dare you, but we're gonna give you grace

cause we're right or dies. But she didn't, so she really messed this one up in my mind and what was also funny is that right here you know Lisa started like say like she's going off and Monica eventually then reverts to a new defense which is what you never called someone a dumb bitch before so that she's like it's not even that you never called someone a dumb bitch when like Monica is like I can't believe it was saving me you know and I'm gonna dumb bitch when Monica is like, I can't believe there was a save in the movie! You know, and if I'm actually like,

ah, dumb bitch, who cares, no big deal. What's a big deal? Something I see on the, on the internet a lot quoted is the narcissist's prayer. That didn't happen, and if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it. And that is kind of, in a way, the housewives or really reality show. I mean, we see it on Southern Trump currently. So it's not only housewives, but it's kind of the reality show thing, but it really explains a lot of what's going on here, I think. I mean, that's pretty exact.

Oh, yeah. It was like when she gets, it's when she's sort of like cornered, then she just pibis to something else. Yeah. So what is that? How's that? They call people a dumb bitch. Sounds like it.

But by the way, just, just to be fair, Lisa just called her a fake bitch. So what's better? Lisa's like, you phony bitch or whatever she said, literally before the last commercial. So it's like no one's like completely innocent here, but yeah. So, and then Heather makes some like snorkeye comment about like, you know, oh, you could just call someone

like a dumb bitch or whatever with a burner account or maybe use reality volunteers. And I was like, oh, there's shit the fuck up. And Heather's like, oh, God. So she goes on, literally, I don't even know what I did to you, Heather. Like literally. Okay, Monica, that's a terrible defense there.

That's like the worst one of all. So she goes, Heather, shut the fuck up. Your hairdresser, or she says something that was beat out. I think it was not her hairdresser. It was a reality vantes, because that's Dini's shot. And she's like, it was reality vantise is like six people. And he's like, no, it's not. No, it's not.

And listen, I've asked people at both kinds of temple. No one is there. I'm on a couse. And Heather's like, there is a full investigation Monica. I mean, in all fairness, who's doing the investigating you and Tanisha? I mean, that's not the most trustworthy detective either, Tanisha, you know?

And Meredith does have a fairly good point here because Meredith has said, I mean, I guess she's just been like frozen the entire time. I mean, it's so cold in here. But Meredith has like, listen, doesn't really matter if it's one or six people, which is really the most salient point here, because who cares?

You can try to ponder on the fact that there was two, three, four, five, or six other people. You're still being deceptive by a mission to your friends. Like, I don't know what kind of group is down with someone in the group having a burner account. And even just even like writing snarky things, it is like a violation of trust.

It is, but on the other hand, Heather still employs and his friends with one of those people that she's using all of this evidence from. So it's like, how seriously do you use this? If you're still so close with Tanisha and you're all as forgiven with Tanisha, I don't get it. Yeah, well maybe Heather's thinking like, well, she cameisha. I don't get it. Yeah, well, maybe Heather's thinking, like, well, she came clean and I don't want to punish good behavior. I don't know, but I would get rid of Tunisha's. Yeah, I mean, I'm Tunisha's what it is.

It's like, when you go to your parents, like, you know, you're caught with something and you're like, Dad, I have to admit, I took your car out last night. Well, as long as you were on, it's so proud of you for your honesty. So, um, it's a plea deal.

And, you know, it's like pretty much, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no your honesty. So, um, it's a plea deal. And it's pretty nice. Not everyone, not everyone. I'm here, it's like, I want to say something, because I feel like this year Monica out, and I don't think they're letting her talk, which I'm like, Monica has talked a lot. I'm like, well, that's kind of, that's kind of,

I mean, that's what I think. But Andy's like, well, we haven't discussed this issue until now. So just when you thought you've heard of everything, I mean, they's what I think. But Andy's like, well, we haven't discussed this issue until now. So just when you thought you've heard of everything, I mean, this show really, so we see clips of next week, Amonika's squealing, I was not talking Jen. And then Andy goes,

you said it Jen's security cameras, right? She's like, uh-huh. And he goes, so you had the ability to see what she was doing, and here what she was saying in her home. And she goes, yeah. That's so fucked up. And she goes, yeah. That's so fucked up. That is such a violation.

I mean, that is a conspiracy. That is sliver. That is sliver. I mean, we talked about in crappy hour that she was the one that set up the cameras. I thought they were in the office. I didn't know they were in her home that she's like getting all the camera feeds from her home.

I mean, that's like, I think, I don't know, is that Boraline illegal her home. I mean, that's like, I think might be, I don't know, is that Borla and illegal? That is just like, that is definitely fucked up. But I will say, by the way, two Mary's point, like some credit to Mary here is that I was a little frustrated in the finale that when it was time for Monica to be like, okay, here's the story, here's how I got involved in this,

here's what we did, that Lisa was the one who like, okay, here's the story, here's how I got involved in this, here's what we did. That Lisa was the one who barked up and just sort of cut her off. And I was like, oh, I'm just going to record us now. Is that what you're going to do? Just going to record us. And then Monica started screaming. So we really didn't get to hear the story. And I was really pissed about that.

So I am interested in hearing Monica's story. But what was funny was Monica acting like she just hasn't been able to even express herself this entire reunion. It's like, yeah, she said quite a bit. Well, I have to say, it was the second hour of reunion and usually that is the most boring hour. It's like nothing happened, it sucks, and it still was fantastic. And the next one looks really, really crazy good. I would, I, I'm going to predict that next week's will be a super size one because we also have to get the story of the black eye. And so we have both reality, the next week's super size.

It is. Yeah, because we have to get the origins of reality, monties and then the eye. And then the crazy part is we have part three next week. And then the week after that is the Banderpump Rules premiere. Like we are literally rolling over from reality Von T's back into Scandable on the same night, not the same night, but like the same time slot.

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