Watch What Crappens - #2300 Crappy Hour Live 1/22/24: RHOSLC Lawsuit, RHOBH Nurse Controversy, and the Southern Charm Finale

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

On this week’s Crappy Hour, we’re talking the end of #RHOSLC and the RealityVonTease fallout, Esophagate on #RHOBH, Rodrigo from Southern Charm’s nasty DMs, and all the #BravoTV news we... can fit. Join us every other Monday at 5:30 PM PST To watch the video version of this recap and for our bonus episodes, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. And don’t forget to grab tickets for the 2024 Golden Crappies Feb 17 at the Palace Theater in LA. Links at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondery's new podcast, Dis and Tell, wades into the glorious mess of celebrity beef. Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud and asks, what does our obsession with these feuds say about us? Follow Dis and Tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. Well hello and welcome to crappy hour. I'm Ronnie and that to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Hi. It's Benjo Gingos. Oh, hello Ronnie. How are you doing today? Good, everybody welcome. This is our Instagram live show every other Monday, 530 Pacific Standard Time over on Instagram, which it is now for Ben.
Starting point is 00:01:01 It's 530 Pacific, 533 to be exact. And here we go. Just a little Bravo Goss. What's on your mind tonight? Well, you know, I have to say, I have to share a really cute little story. So I don't know, have I mentioned on the show how much I love the poster for Southern Charm or the key art for this season?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Have we talked about that? No, I don't think so. Do you know what I'm talking about, this key art for this season. Have we talked about that? No, I don't think so. Do you know what I'm talking about, this key art? Yeah. So the, I just, oops. That looks like an old movie poster. It's like Chinatown, but for seven years. It's got like a pink, almost like sunset background
Starting point is 00:01:36 and the whole cast is almost like illustrated on it. It's like, it looks almost like a retro, like book from the eighties or something like that. I just love this poster. I've been obsessed with it. So on Saturday night, I mentioned earlier to you, Ronnie, I actually went out to a bar and I really did not want to go out. I was really tired, but a friend was in town.
Starting point is 00:01:57 So we decided to go out and we're at the bar and I was wearing kind of a funky shirt because, you know, why not? And while I was standing there, someone tapped me on the shoulder. I was like, oh, I really like your shirt. So I started talking and it was a guy and a girl. I could just already tell the girl was my people, you know? And the guy seemed nice too, but the girl was definitely my people.
Starting point is 00:02:16 So we started chatting and there was, we just were like, hit it off. And you know, I mentioned I'm a podcaster and they're like, what are you podcast about? I said, you know, about Bravo TV, they're like, what's your podcast, watch for Crappins. And the girl, she says, oh, that's funny. I make posters for Bravo.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I was like, really? And she was the one who made the Southern Charm key art. And I literally fan out about it. I was like, oh my God, you don't understand. I love the Southern Charm poster. She also did Real Housewives of Miami. And I literally fangirled over the graphic designer who made the Southern Charm arc.
Starting point is 00:02:56 So that was my fun little story. Well, she should do one for us. I want one where we look like we're in Star Wars because that's kind of what it is, right? Where they're like kind of painted. Oh my God, that's such a good idea. I love that. Well, we became friends on Instagram? Where they're like kind of painted. Oh my God, that's such a good idea. I love that. Well, we became friends on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:03:07 So let me like build some French on that. Well, that's basically. Before I say, can you do some verbal words? Basically what you need. You know? Ha ha ha ha. All right, well, that's pretty cool. That's a cool person to met.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I met a guy at HomeGoods that was talking to himself and not to me. What do you think of that? I was like, uh-huh. I was just talking back to him. Turns out he was talking to himself. So that was talking to himself and not to me. What do you think of that? I was like, uh-huh. I was just talking back to him. Turns out he was talking to himself. So that was awkward. So that was my exciting meeting. You know, that is the difference between living,
Starting point is 00:03:32 where you live and living. Living where I live. I get it. I think sometimes. But just as excited, I bet it was just as nerve wracking for the both of us. There probably was equal amounts of stammering and excitement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:47 This guy was really angry about his mom, which I mean, you know, I, I could, I got it, you know, I could get it. He was like talking meanly about his mom and how she doesn't give him any control, um, as we were looking at picture frames. So, okay. So, uh, here we go with some crappy hour stuff. So why don't we just, what do you wanna start with? There's so much, there's a lot on our list,
Starting point is 00:04:11 as usual with Bravo News, there's so much, and yet so much silly things. Sharpe head, this is me concentrating, this is my Sharpe thing. Yes, and what should we start with? I think we should just get this one out of the way because I know this is something that I think people have passing interest in.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It's like fun, it's funny, but like it's not a major thing, but the Ann-Marie esophagus, esophagate situation is so silly. And the fact that it continues to escalate is remarkable to me. So the big thing that happened at the end of last week was that the, I believe it's the American Society of Anesthesiologists, am I getting that correct? As the American
Starting point is 00:04:52 Society of Anesthesiologists, they released an infographic, I didn't even know there was an American Society of Anesthesiologists, but they released an infographic. And it says, it has two columns. One is like anesthesiologists and one's say nurse anesthetists. And it's showing the differences between them. By the way, I have like, like in this line in my mouth. So if I sound wacky, that's because of that. So anesthesiologists must complete medical school. Nurse anesthetists do not complete medical school.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And it goes back and forth with stuff like this. It's basically them saying like, step back, stop making claims about esophageuses. And then the caption says, the real housewives know a fake. Anesthesiologists are medical doctors with more than 12 years of higher education and up to 16,000 hours of clinical training.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Title misappropriation has no place in healthcare. Also, I would argue healthcare has no place on the real housewives. So there's that. Yeah, you know, listen, I think Anne Marie is kind of an asshole. Well, the total asshole like let's face it. All you need to do is listen to five minutes of one recap to know what I think of Anne Marie. But what are you doing, you guys? You should have more respect for yourselves
Starting point is 00:06:06 than to come on and make a housewise post about this, especially when she did not claim, you know, they're misquoting, they're making a housewise mistake, and it's a housewise mistake that Anne-Marie herself is making this season, where she's telling you what you're saying, and it's not correct. She didn't say that she was an anesthesiologist versus nurse anesthetist.
Starting point is 00:06:25 That is what Crystal accused her of. Right. But so far we don't have any proof of that. We have no idea. And then what Amarie is doing is she's going and saying, oh my God, Crystal is degrading my career! Which is also false. She did not degrade your career.
Starting point is 00:06:39 She called you a fucking liar. Okay, that's what she did. So if you're gonna argue about it, then at least get it right. I mean, this is really a housewise fight, but now it is turned to the society of anesthesiologists. And like you said, we didn't even know they were a society before. That's how secret this fight club was. They kept it fucking secret like you should a fight club. And now we all know they've blown their cover for what?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Are you proud of yourselves? Well, Anna Marie had two things that she had said on on Instagram on her stories. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Someone just said here and I love comments. In the after show, Anna Marie said she could call herself an anesthesiologist. Okay. Well, then that's the other point because she doesn't make this better for herself. Does she? Every time you try and stick up for this lady, she just digs herself another hole. Okay, can't stand up for that. I can't even try to defend that for fun, Ben.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Sorry to keep you carrying on. Ronnie, I don't even want you to defend it for fun. But it's fun. It's like debate class. I know. Let's find a horrible human being to defend, just for fun. So she had two stories. I'm going to read the one that seems more lighthearted first
Starting point is 00:07:46 before her official response. So I don't know the timeline of these unfortunately, because I'm reading these off of the best of Bravo. I mean, they were everywhere, but Anne-Marie had posted a story that said, "'The esophagus storyline was not funny. "'Watching the show back now, I hate that storyline "'just as much as everyone else.
Starting point is 00:08:03 "'I would be mad at me too. It was a line of questioning I should never have started and for that I sincerely apologize. That storyline was unauthentically dragged on for far too long and I have been dragged through the mud in the process. I just want to highlight the real in reality TV, prayer hands heart. Well, this is so her to this part. I do not condone the ASA's defamation campaign. I'm a CRNA, a certified registered nurse and anesthetist, and I'm 8.5 at it by the way, according to my husband. I'm extremely proud
Starting point is 00:08:37 of my profession. I will not be accused of total misappropriation because a castmate needed a storyline on a reality TV show. This is my real life and my career that goes on the after show and says, but I could be, I could be an anesthesia. But she's, she's trying to turn this into defamation. Like every, we're only going off what you say. Are you really going to come on here and say like, you hate the storyline and everybody made you do it. They just put together four hours of you complaining about
Starting point is 00:09:06 Sutton's esophage. What's it? Two hours or four hours? Whatever that was on the show. It was like, it was already done and she brought it back during like a really depressing party. During a suicide. It was a suicide memorial celebration of life and she's
Starting point is 00:09:21 bringing this up and then she also says here, political issues exist between a physician ashesiologist and CRNAs, which explains their current attack on me and the CRNA profession. So now not only on top of everything else, this is just the latest shots fired across, across the battlefield between these two warring groups. I need them to do like a West Side Story thing. Yes. And I think she, you know, there is a thing in nursing where nurses are treated like crap
Starting point is 00:09:54 or looked down on by doctors or whatever, like you're just a nurse and that's not cool. And that's kind of- There are people who do that too. Yeah. And that's pretty, you know, well known and you don't come for nurses, but I don't think people are. I think she's trying to make it that because, you know, she'll get
Starting point is 00:10:12 more points, she'll get more like internet points for it or whatever people, she's trying to rally people into coming to stand up for her. But so far, nobody's dissing nurses. Okay. It's you keeping an esophagus thing going. And also, what's your defense for coming on national TV and suggesting someone has an eating disorder and trying to like talk about, you know, their inappropriate taking of prescription drugs, which by the way, you can't take the Gap of Print and or whatever with alcohol. You know, we've mentioned all this stuff before, but just to review. I don't know this lady. She, I don't know why I'm even getting worked up over. It's the dumbest storyline in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And I'm like, oh, and then, and you better listen to me about Gabber praying. God, by the way, I love saying Gabber. That's like my new favorite thing. Because I get a man. Um, the other thing also, I just feel like if Amory, if she's just going to go down this path of saying, well, she's got a small esophagus because she's got an eating disorder. I almost wish she would just outright say it, rather than sort of suggest it in a clunky way
Starting point is 00:11:12 and then act as if Crystal was the one who brought this up. I mean, that's the craziest part of this all. I never said eating disorder. Crystal's the one who said that. I never said anything about esophagus. Crystal said esophagus. I don't even know what anesthesiology it is. It's like, what, what are you, like you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Like we are watching you. We are watching you on TV. Yeah, ma'am, I'm sorry, but as a non-doctor, I have to diagnose you with Legion Lies disease. Okay, you are lie, you're a lie face. So please just stop. Just stop. So what else do we have on here today? And also your husband's accusers from really terrible things. If you guys want to find that out, Google it because that's pretty interesting too. So just go please. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So then we have Oh God something else gross before we get into Rodrigo. Okay, so the southern charm Final reunion just aired Rodrigo came on he made like a five minute appearance Maybe and in that time lit the internet on fire. Okay. Uh, on this show, I thought he was a bit much Ben was like, finally, Rodrigo did something. Hurrah. I like this. Because of the general experience. I like, he was like, you know, I like that was funny. Well, he said the internet on fire. People were furious with this guy. And I thought, look, I did not love his energy. Okay. I said that in the recap
Starting point is 00:12:46 I didn't love it. I think it was too thirsty It was like coming out of nowhere to me It looked like something else had happened in the world for him to be that upset with Olivia It seemed it seemed like too much anger towards Olivia too quickly. I didn't really get it People online were have been freaking. I mean to the point where it's like, Rodrigo was hateful and misogynistic to Olivia. I didn't see him being hateful. So I was like, What is this? Well, guess what he this idiot did? Okay, so he was on his Instagram. This was somewhere
Starting point is 00:13:20 I found guess where from Reddit. That's my education. Thank you Reddit. Thank you College of Reddit They leaked his DMs. He apparently got pissed off on someone who made a comment. Okay, and He says how dare you say how dare you have the nerve to say I have no life ha ha ha and she says I didn't she says Yeah, she says I didn't call you outside your name Don't be bothered and he says just like, when I see a C word, I call it up and uses the full on word. When I see a cut fitness, I call it out. And she says, you're a disgusting human being. He says, again, bothered is coming to my page to play victim. And she
Starting point is 00:14:00 says, you're so full of hate, so sad. See, I'm not offended because what you're saying isn't true. Why are you so bothered? And he said, sad, delusional, pathetic, Mandy, the cut fitness. She says, who is Mandy? My name, since you can't read, is Mandy. And he says, Zoom, pop! I love this. And he says, thanks a nice day, cut fitness.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Thanks for the last. You're a pig, you're fucking disgusting. Who does that? Go away. I'm sorry I ever had two seconds of being nice to you on this. What the fuck is wrong with you, sir? Yeah, it's a bit over the top and rude and offensive to women. I mean, a bit. Also, we need to get consensus on the C word, okay? The C word's back, but it's not back like
Starting point is 00:14:41 this. I was about to say straight up cut fitness drag. The drag culture has made it like a fun thing, I think, because they got so sick of probably being called out on it. They changed it to mean like, what does it mean? Well, I think that like right now, it's like, it's just there are definitely a lot of gay men right now who are saying cut fitness. E, you know, like, I as using it as an adjective and like, it's like all over the place.
Starting point is 00:15:09 But the thing is this, it's like, it was inevitable that if it gets used a lot like that, people are going to start just sort of saying it. And you gotta be careful when you say it because it's like highly, highly offensive to large swaths of people. And Rodrigo can't do the whole thing of like, well, in London,
Starting point is 00:15:26 I'm from London because no, do that. Well, this is from Drag Race, right? This is what I learned that it's from Drag Race that they took that word and they turned it to me. Charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent. So in that drag culture, apparently, yes, it's used as, oh, I didn't tell you this. This is, you see what you learned from having you on this. I guarantee Rod Rico. Someone explained it to me.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I guarantee Rod Rico was not saying charisma, uniqueness, whatever was in talent. No, he wasn't saying, he wasn't saying it. Nerv and talent. Cut fitness-y, he wasn't saying it that way. He was calling her a cut fitness. That's different. When you say somebody, you know, is cut fitnessy, I
Starting point is 00:16:05 guess, charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent, which is a very creative way of still getting to use that word. But anyway, he didn't mean it that way. He's just disgusting. So you're fucking gross and we should have known. And this is also kind of the problem of just even putting, I just, I don't even want to, he's gross. I don't need to get myself all worked up. I'm already worked up about Gabbapen, okay? I don't know what Gabbapen does, but I feel like one of us needs to take it right now.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And I don't know which one of us does, but one of us does. Well, that's- So someone says the C word is not a slur, it's vulgar. I don't get, what do you mean? Aren't those both bad? Well, I guess vulgar is just like a vulgar, like it's like a, I think slurs are vulgar, but all vulgarities are not necessarily slurs.
Starting point is 00:17:00 But I don't know. That's a slur when a man's calling a woman that, right? I imagine. I mean, listen, we used to use that word all the time on this show because it was 12 years ago, and it was more casual, kind of like it is now. Like, we see how words come in and out of fashion. That one definitely went out. And we stopped.
Starting point is 00:17:15 You know what I mean? So I'm not going to be a total hypocrite and be like, oh, look at this C word. I've never said that in my life. It used to be in casual conversation a lot more. It's not now. That was 10 years, 12 years ago. Okay. Stop, sir. You stop, sir. Take your gap of pen with a glass of wine and take a nap. I mean, ultimately, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sit here and make a distinction of like, is it a slur? Is it not a slur? Is it vulgarity? Because ultimately, this is a word that is used against women.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And so I'm not going to like I'm I'm not a woman. Ultimately, no, I'm not a woman. So I'm not really going to sit here and like be like, let me as a man, explain how this word is used for women. Let's Ben explain the C word. Yeah, I'm not going to do this. Man's playing. But what we do know is that it's offensive to large amounts of American women.
Starting point is 00:18:06 So I will just, you know, use that as the lead as my barometer. Yeah, anyway, you're gross. Hope you're not back, sir. OK, so then we go to Kyle Richards goes ring shopping with friend Morgan Wade after birthday gets away without Mauricio. Morgan Wade after birthday gets away without Mauricio. So, you know, they went to Tiffany's. And of course there were paparazzi there because that's what happens when Kyle goes anywhere. Isn't that crazy? Not crazy how that keeps happening.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah. And they of course are like twinning basically. They are wearing the two very close friends twinned in black puffer coats, which to be fair, I think in the winter, if two people are wearing black puffer coats, it's not necessarily twinning. I think that's like a very standard generic look. Although then again, I'm gonna walk that back.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm gonna take some gabb-pentin and walk that back because Morgan probably came out wearing the black puffer and I was like, oh my God, hold on, let me get my black puffer. So yeah, it was twinning. Well, Morgan's wearing one of those rainbow puffers I forget what store it's from. They're very nice like Marine layer fancy mountain layer Yes, it's marine layer. Yes. God you're good. I just saw what an eye for fashion
Starting point is 00:19:16 I once went into Marine layer in Austin. So when I see you that's where I saw it I was just what I was just there and I was I saw this jacket and I was like, this is cute. Me too. And then I looked at the price and I was like. $5,000. No, you should give this free. You should give the rainbow free to the gay person. The marine layer.
Starting point is 00:19:34 You know what I want? Like instead of marine layer, I'll get smog. I'll get the knockoff brand smog. But Kyle did show up on Real Housewives with Morgan's hair and face. So yeah, she is, she is trying to do the twinning thing. I don't really care about that. I just thought it was funny. It's like, of course, Kyle. It's like, let's try and get people watching the show. Let's go bring shopping and have the paparazzi take a picture. Yeah, poor thing. And still nobody really cares.
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Starting point is 00:20:58 You can listen to Even The Royals early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. So Kyle and Morgan Wade apparently went on a warm weather getaway to Punta Mita, Mexico. I'm now that makes sense because as punta mate, that's where you want to go. You just can't, you can't ignore it. Wait a second. Did we forget to nominate ladies and gentlemen Berlin for best quote of the year? gosh darn it I just realized ladies and gentlemen Berlin Berlin
Starting point is 00:21:34 Dmitra that's where you want to go. So they went to put them either together and now they're doing this They're buying rings. We're oh, oh wait. Hold on. I'm a little triggered by something, Ronnie. I'm reading this article. Uh-oh. Wishing you a very happy birthday at Kyle Richards 18. Umanski wrote on Instagram alongside a throwback clip of Richards dancing to Carly Ray Jepsen's Call Me Maybe. Do we have to bring Carly Ray Jepsen into this? I don't appreciate that. Okay. Poor Carly Ray. Ben will always stand up for his little Carly Ray. Ben will always stand up for his little Carly Ray. I know, I don't want to drag the Kyle's Dissoultory lame scandal.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Alright, so I know that everybody's dying because we're not talking about Monica from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. It just continues to go and go with this chick. Um, you know, when we think we've seen everything on the reunion, then we find out that not only did she have cameras installed in Jen's office, but also her home and she had all the passwords and everything because she's the one who had everything installed. So the creep factor just keeps going through the roof. Uh, and news on what's going on with her. She's had a couple of pretty defensive things on the internet, which have been fun.
Starting point is 00:22:53 One is, um, hate me or love me. Do you have this one up then? Which one? This is a Kobe Bryant quote. Oh, so Kobe Bryant has a quote. Yeah. Yeah. She has a Kobe Bryant quote up that says, hate me or love me, it's one or the other, always has been. Hate my game, my swagger.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Hate my fade away, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran, a champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons. Kobe Bryant. And then she does her version. Hate that I'm a troll, broke, single, divorced, cheated, excommunicated. Okay, first of all, the grammar there. I'm very confused on what you're trying to say because grammatically this is terrible. Okay, do you have anybody over there helping you?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Hate that I'm childish, loud, girl was an assistant, hate that I was a fan, the game got on the show. When a snark page went the FBI hate that I infiltrated a group of elitists. Yes. Oh yes. Okay. You, you, you infiltrated the global elite. I like that she's going to bring QAnon QAnon wording into this.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I hear your dog whistle man. Watch out for Kilo Neal. She's about to infiltrate the 1% and then hate it with your heart or all hate that I'm left for the same reasons. Okay. I don't know. It doesn't have the same, uh, doesn't have the same impact to me as Kobe Bryant's, uh, thing because he's like talking like what's funny is that in his quote, when he says, hate my game, my swagger, my fade away, my hunger, hate that I'm a veteran champion.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Like those are like, he's saying, like look at all these things that I've achieved and like you're gonna hate me for it. Where she's like, hate that I'm broke and single and divorced and went to the FBI, had a snark page. It just doesn't have the same gravitas. She's mixing a lot of victim language with stuff that's supposed to make her a badass queen icon.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Like she's mixing troll, which is supposed to make her cool, I guess, broke, poor, single, divorced, which is the victim. Then the cheated, excommunicated victim. Hate that I'm childish, loud, was an assistant. You know, that's like my set. You know, hate victim things. Hate that I was a fan, played the game, got on the show. Hero things, icon things, ran a snark page, went to the FBI, I've turned the tables. I've Edward Snowden. Snowden himself! Calm down over that over that infiltrated a group of elitos has to be my favorite.
Starting point is 00:25:27 You're a real Mr. Robot over there. Okay, Monica. Real salt burn going on over there. But might I add endlessly entertaining. I mean, as well, that being said, everything she says is true. Still. Still. Not as good as it got me. You know, it's interesting. So the Hollywood Reporter, do you wanna talk about this thing? The Hollywood Reporter thing, Hollywood Reporter had an article a few days ago
Starting point is 00:25:56 where they talked to the showrunners of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and they talk about Monica and they insist that they had no idea that Monica had this account. They said they did a background check, but like burner accounts just don't show up on background checks. And the reporters asked like, hey, is this something you're going to be like screening
Starting point is 00:26:20 for in the future? And they're like, well, there's just no way to screen for it. But I'm like, well, why don't you build in a clause that says something like you're not allowed to have burner accounts. And if you do, you get fined. Well, they probably should not do that. I mean, I feel like the Housewives Economy
Starting point is 00:26:39 runs on burner accounts. And I feel like they're responsible for most Reddit posts, which gives me my full entertainment value for the week. So I don't like that. I will say I don't believe these producers for two seconds. First of all, no dummy. I've been watching reality TV for a very long time and I know you're fucking liars. And whenever somebody says, but the producer said it, guys, they literally lie to you for a living. They reedited things. They string us along for a living and do you believe this really?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Okay. I didn't know any of this. Lori called the network after that Bermuda weekend. It was just gushing about it. I just didn't even understand it. Then Lori says the way Heather found out that day, it was so such a rush and it was so sudden. We know that Heather didn't find out that day, it was so such a rush and it was so sudden. We know that Heather didn't find out that day. She says that she knew before and that she just got confirmation that day.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Tanisha's been working for her for a long time. This is not something that just all happened within that five. You guys are fucking liars. Okay. Now, with that said, you're also doing a fantastic job. So keep flying to me. But whoever this deep throat thinks they are over here. Yeah. Not, not buying it. No, ma'am, Sutton would say. No keep flying to me. But whoever this deep throat thinks they are over here. Yeah, not not buying it No, ma'am is certain would say no ma'am
Starting point is 00:27:49 They also the producers also really hedge about whether or not Monica's gonna come back. They're like, you know Lisa Laurie and I have had about 7000 conversations about that and we'll probably have a few hundred more I'm like, please stop paraphrasing the family ties theme song for some foremost. I bet we have been together a million years. But they should they're like, well, on the one hand, you know, like she has this like we like that she's like represents a different kind of Salt Lake city personality, like poor. And we also like that like she's different from the other women. But on the other hand, there's like the deception and there's the relationship
Starting point is 00:28:31 with other cast members. It's a complicated puzzle. But then from a ratings standpoint, you know, be great to find a way to have our comeback, but it's just a really challenging situation. I'm like, so you're still working at convincing Heather. You're working at convincing Heather and married at the letter back. Well, Heather is not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I think everybody knows that, okay? None of those OGs are gonna be quitting this show over Monica. They will show up, they will band together and they will make the mistake that every person on a reality show makes where they think, I can control this. She can't make me look stupid if I don't let her.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Which is, you guys should know better by now because this is what season four or some shit. Like come on. But housewives don't learn and reality people in general don't learn. Thank God. So if they're really hemming and hawing this much, of course she's going to come back. Yeah. Like there's my own dad. I think so. I think though the producers are in a little bit of a tricky situation because
Starting point is 00:29:28 if they truly did not know about this, then, um, oh, I had a really good point. I love when this happens, especially on a live show. If the producers did, if the obviously, if the producers didn't know about this, then the producers were deceived and sets a bad precedent that cast members are allowed to actively deceive the producers and get away with it. If they did know about it, it sends a bad precedent that the producers would allow someone on one of these shows that has like a burner account making fun of other cast members. That's like does not make cast members feel safe.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So they're in a tricky situation that they definitely have to manage, you know, their relationship with the cast members at this point because of this. I don't know that these people give a shit about their cast safety. This is A, this is real housewives and B, it's real housewives of Salt Lake City. They've had Jen Shaw on for three years. So, and she was literally abusive and terrible, horrible. I mean, the stuff that we saw on her that was leaked by Monica and her cohorts was just more of what we'd already seen and the way that she had treated people
Starting point is 00:30:36 on the show to cameras for three years. Like everybody had already seen this stuff. She's a fucking monster and she would get physical with people. And she was completely fucking unhinged and dangerous and DMing all of these bloggers and blah blah blah blah blah and they didn't give a shit. They don't care. So they're not really here giving a shit about anybody's safety. And Essie on YouTube is saying, Burner accounts help produce the storylines. Damn right. Listen, what is, how else is Lisa Vanderpump supposed to work? That's true.
Starting point is 00:31:05 We've let the woman live. That's true. Um, speaking of on YouTube, Irene asks, you think Angie K is returning? I think so because I just feel like the season was so good. I don't think Bravo wants to metal with this chemistry more than they have to. If they have to get rid of Monica, I don't see them getting rid of Angie K2. I think they're gonna try to keep as much of this cast intact as they can. Yeah, I agree. I think they'll probably add maybe one other person or another friend of. I don't think we'll see Mary back.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Speaking of Mary, I'm not sure if she'll be back or not. One thing that came out of this interview that was really interesting is that the show, the origins of the show on the reunion, Lisa, Lisa Barlow was like, yeah, I was the one who got like Bravo interested in us. So like, I'm the one who basically made the show. But the producers actually revealed that the show was originally supposed to be about Mary. They'd heard that got a tip about Mary, that she was this great character and she has this audience. And they came out to sort of like city to meet her, but in the process they started meeting the rest of the cast and they're like, whoa, these are like, this is wild what's happening here.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And one of the stories is that they went out to drinks with the cast and then after they left, the producers left and the cast stayed at the bar and then they got into a brawl or something and someone got kicked out of the bar. And the producers heard about it and were like, oh my God, they're real housewives before they were even on the show. So Mary is the origin. They were doing that without the cameras even there. Well, that's interesting because Lisa said that and also Heather's book, Bad Mormon, tells the story of how the show started and it said it was built around Lisa. So I'm not really sure what's up because a lot of times on these shows, they're not real housewives shows.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Like I don't think they knew it was a real housewives show in the beginning. Even if the producers knew that that's what it was going to be, Lisa was apparently trying to shop some show and so maybe they combined a bunch of shows that they had. Possible. Into one, you know, just like how many Salt Lake City people do you have? I mean, Salt Lake City really has had a good few years because they also have a couple of the Netflix home shows. They have the, those white people doing big farmhouse things that are all
Starting point is 00:33:15 painted white. Yeah. What's that one? It's not the home edit. It was like dream home or something like that. Or like, welcome to your dream home. Yeah. And then there's the other one, the home edit with the girls that or like, welcome to your dream home. Yeah. And then there's the other one, the home edit with the girls who are like, where sisters? Wait, is that home edit?
Starting point is 00:33:30 Home edit was Reese with her soon and like, yeah. It was her closet. Yeah. And the ladies were like, arrange everything into a rainbow. So. Oh God. No, the sisters I'm thinking of are HGTV, those twin sisters who were like, curb appeal, we're going to change your whole house.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Am I right sis? And she's like, yeah, she's real good with ideas and I'm real good with crayons. And then they go in and they just shithole over these houses and they're like, mission accomplished. You see, he didn't want to talk about it. But I'm like, I want to watch. You know what you need in your driveway?
Starting point is 00:34:02 Gravel, am I right sis? She's like, yeah. Instead of gravel, we replace all the rocks with little pellets of Gabapennum. No. No. I still say, I know we've got a lot that we can't even cover on Bravo, but goddamn it, we need an HGTV pot.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I know, it's true. Okay. So, yeah, so the producers basically say a bunch of stuff I don't know that I really believe in this But I do thank them for everything that they've given us because God that show is just beautiful Someone else who needs to be thanked for their contribution Monica's mother Linda Who I always go to Twitter after every episode to see what Linda has said It's never anything I think too explosive. She just tries to come on and kind of stand up for herself against whatever Monica's weaving
Starting point is 00:34:51 This week it is everything Monica says about me is a lie or half-truth. I never applied slash auditioned Not season four not ever I am an award-winning journalist and TV producer and that was the TV job in New York City news journalist slash producer. I already had the job. Reality TV is not my cup of tea and then she posts a screenshot of some texts between her and Monica to prove her case from February 16th, 2023 where the mom is saying I know they don't need me and Monica to prove her case from February 16th, 2023, where the mom is saying, I know they don't need me. And Monica, who's named a affluence Monica, says, I do, I need you.
Starting point is 00:35:36 She said, I want to be there for you, Monica, but I'm not selling my soul. And Monica later in another screenshot says something like, but we're gonna, we're gonna promote our culture, the Portuguese people. So she's like begging her mom to do it, which, you know, she wanted to bring her mom on to make a crazy mom storyline. Wow. I am. Use what you got. I am thrown by this concept that Linda is a news journalist slash producer. Like this is, I can't even imagine a news journalist slash producer naming themselves LD millionaire on Twitter. Like this is like what show was she, what was it like hard copy?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Like what was it that she was a producer on? I don't know if she didn't say, you know, I would Google, but does, do you think that'll even show up? I don't know. I don't want to Google know, I would Google, but do you think that it'll even show up? I don't know. I don't want to Google right now because I feel like I'll go down a hole. Could I have done it earlier? Sure. I did not though. I don't really know, but she crates. She is. I love her. She's probably a terrible mom, but I love the idea of Linda in our lives.
Starting point is 00:36:43 But I love the idea of Linda in our lives. So the next thing up is the lawsuit that we heard about on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Finally, even though the internet had been talking about it for a while, we found out this last reunion when Monica is squealing about I ain't never doing anybody, what are you talking about? After Angie, the Greek robot was like, you sue everybody for money or whatever. you're talking about after Angie, uh, the Greek robot was like, you sue everybody for money or whatever. And she said, I do not.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And then Heather said, you're suing me. Right. Um, and so we find out about this lawsuit where Heather is suing Monica for unpaid bills, Monica is Monica countersued Heather for botched lip injections that she had to go get redone somewhere else even though there were texts to prove that Monica actually loved the work and kept and kept writing back to the lady who did the work or whatever so that lawsuit against Beauty Lab has been dismissed because of, let me see,
Starting point is 00:37:45 what do they call it, statute of limitations. They dismissed January 17th after reviewing all corresponding pleadings. The court dismissed her case since her claim is time barred by the statute of limitations. And Monica failed to obtain a certificate of compliance from the division of professional licensing. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Man. Well, you know, I was excited to see where that was going to go. I was not expecting, um, it just to get thrown out because of statute of limitations. Yeah. Those statute of limitations are a bitch, right? Yeah. There's another, well, but apparently there's another lawsuit. I was just reading about today that that came up.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I forgot what it was. So how well the article says Monica won't give up because prior to the court Well, but apparently there's another lawsuit. I was just reading about today that that came up. I forgot what it was. So how well the article says Monica won't give up because prior to the court dismissing her lawsuit, Monica held depositions with two estheticians, not an estheticians, just estheticians. Just don't want, I don't want Anne Marie to get excited here at the other company that allegedly corrected her botch lip injections. So, um, and look what they're called. Luma.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Rumors. Luma. Rumors. You want to talk about the rumors? The husbun? There are, you, M, A, rumor, aesthetics. That's hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Um, so, uh, including the documents that were to be produced at the time were copies of all the records of procedures by Ruma aesthetics. But however, after attempting to seek the recordings, the U.S. Sun was made aware that the court, by the court, that depositions are private and can't be released. Monica filed a motion for protective order to essentially not have to disclose private information that's unrelated to the case. She requested the following be left out of the case. Her healthcare providers, her Medicare health insurance information,
Starting point is 00:39:27 her employees from the past five years. That's weird, right? Copies of bills and statements, investigative reports and so forth. She requested this for various reasons, such as she was never treated by a healthcare provider to correct the defective cosmetic lip-plumping procedure. There are no investigative reports that she doesn't claim lost wages due to this.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Wow. Roe's Fits on Instagram says Monica's going all the way to Supreme Court. Sure is. Let's take this to the top because that's where it goes. It goes all the way to the top. They would probably do it. Our Supreme Court's really firing on all cylinders. You know, hey, if, uh, if Annacle Smith can make it to the Supreme Court,
Starting point is 00:40:11 I think Monica definitely can. Um, okay. Let's see what, uh, what else? Um, uh, I mean, most of this stuff this week is about Monica, et cetera. There was a Larsa by the way. Well, here's one that's I was about to say something about Larsa and the and the traders, but I don't want to spoil things for our audience if they haven't watched yet. But so instead, let's talk about no surprise here.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Nini Leeks tells paparazzi cameras that Bravo has to get rid of half the Atlanta cast, but she will not name names on who should go but That's meanie she likes to keep it subtle. Yeah, you know the question really like being rude to people publicly So we think like do we think it's time for Neenie to come back to Atlanta? Is it over? I don't know, but they, I don't know. Look, I obviously, I don't know. I'm never right about this stuff. I would say, I would love to see it, but just because you really realize what you had once it's gone, you know, Nini really had a few horrible years there at the end and she was going through a lot and it doesn't seem like she's necessarily become more her old self again.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So I don't know that I would love it if it actually came true, but I think I would love it because it's definitely needed something. But, you know, like I said, I'm a big believer in getting rid of half the people and casting new, like, why do we have to keep going back into the cli- if we're going to keep these shows alive, we have to keep bringing fresh blood in. Bring in the fresh blood. Yeah, I agree. Okay. Well, now I actually do want to talk about Larsa
Starting point is 00:41:47 because I never should have mentioned the traders because now people are like, you gotta talk about the traders. So everyone has about two seconds. If you're not interested in the traders, you don't want to be spoiled. You got two seconds to put us on mute. But Larsa Pippin, she has an interview
Starting point is 00:42:01 with Entertainment Weekly with the Ask Her About Her Experience on the show. And I just thought it was funny because Larsa Pippin is so Larsa. She's acting as if she knew all along. One of the questions was, you considered the Housewives, your biggest allies on there.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So what was your reaction when you found out Phaedra was the traitor? And she says, I kind of like had a feeling like that she was like a trader. And I actually said to her while walking down the hallway, a lot of people think you could be a trader. She kind of fits the profile. And the reporter's like, and what was her reaction?
Starting point is 00:42:36 She was like, they do. And I'm like, yeah, they do. She talks. She talks just like we say in She Talk. Like some people you really don't even have to make anything up for. And then Sandra said that Larissa runs the housewives. Was that true? I mean, I don't necessarily think I run the housewives like.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I think I'm probably more vocal like, but I was like mind boggled when I heard Sandra say that I had looked 10 to 12 years older than her. Like she definitely needs to have her eyes checked on that one. Like I'm still bothered by that. So they're like, do you think your problem was that you were too vocal? Do you think you should maybe have held back a little bit and fade into the background? And she's like, I like my initial plan. Like I feel like it was not like to be like so vocal, but like once I got to the
Starting point is 00:43:27 castle, I figured I could sway the group. You know, I wish I could have kept some of my opinions to myself, but I just like had a gut feeling about like Dan like I literally called him out on. Larza, you went for CT instead of Dan, continuating that Dan wasn't really alpha enough and it doesn't really count when you accuse literally every person, you know? It's like on this show, some people are like, Ronnie, you're psychic, you said that person was terrible,
Starting point is 00:43:52 and then they turned out to be terrible. Yeah, I say everybody's terrible. I'm gonna be right 80% of the time. It's just a numbers game, you know? Exactly, Larsa, you don't get credit because you thought about Dan once over the course of four episodes. But I'm glad to see that Larsa is still doing the Larsa thing. Larsa is still Larsing. So did you read any of this stuff about, oh gosh, this is the Rachel podcast?
Starting point is 00:44:20 No. That she... What's the latest? So she has a podcast now produced by Bethany. All right, get a job. Of course. All right, Cheetah Brand. Like literally, because it's like literally Cheetah Brand
Starting point is 00:44:31 because it's about a cheetah. So it's a Cheetah Brand in a good way. I think that she's producing it at I Heart under her umbrella or whatever. Of course. And basically every episode is her talking about another part of Scandival. I cannot.
Starting point is 00:44:48 She is going, how long do you think she's going to be at like Richard Branson's, what do they call that? Like Missouri? Is it in Missouri? Like Richard Branson's Missouri where he built all those little theaters and like Debbie Reynolds does her vaudeville shit while she used to. R.P. Love you Debbie.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Like Ozarks. You know, where like all the old, yeah, like all the older stars from yes to yeah, come and do their show. It's like, ma-na-na-na-na-na Schwartz at the pool. They made me, they made me do it. I hope she's there. I hope she has a show in Branson and she's walks on stage with a surfboard and then she just goes and she goes, and now here's something new. You didn't know.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I will never forget Rachel, the clip that we saw on line of Rachel doing the BD contest where she brings out that little surfboard and then stands on it and goes, Whoa. Oh my goodness. Okay. So, um, uh, she went on there and basically said that Schwartz knew from the
Starting point is 00:45:57 very beginning that this was all going on. Um, Tom Sandoval and her would meet at Schwartz's apartment because that was their safe space guys. So he knew and he was encouraging it to all, to them to be honest with Ariana, but he knew the whole time. And she says a lot of other stuff. Honestly, I read, and by the way, thank you to Vanderpot Recaps because I love you. I'm obsessed with the work you do following all of these shows and recapping these shows so we don't have to watch them. Because there's a ton of these shows now.
Starting point is 00:46:31 There's this one, there's Kristen's show with her boyfriend, Kristen Dodie's show. Then there's Jack's and Brittany's show, which is terrifying. Then there's La La's show, then there's Sheena's show. I mean, they do all of these shows and I've never listened to one of them, but I can go on here and read every little thing about them. So thank you for your work, Matt or Padre Caps.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Go follow them. Um, but you can read stuff on there. I'm honestly exhausted. I don't know how somebody does this every day, listens to all of this, uh, uh, scant of all stuff. Are you tired? Aren't you tired? It's a lot to take on.
Starting point is 00:47:03 It was, and you know, we, when we were, um, we were talking before about how, uh, when we're making the ballots for the crappies, like just trying to remember all the stuff that happened in Scandival earlier this year. It's like, oh my goodness. Like it was hard to jog the memory because time has passed and there's been so much junk that's come through. So like we already take on so much stuff. I can't imagine taking on like Rachel's podcast It is a lot and that is some dedication It was interesting though I did read the Instagram post about it and it was a nice lengthy
Starting point is 00:47:38 Instagram post with a lot of screenshots and stuff so go check that out if you guys want to know what Rachel is saying You know, it's a lot of stuff like her date with Peter. Really? Like, get a job. Okay, everybody, we are gonna move over to the hanging out with people at the Instagram Live portion of this show. If you want to be a part of that show,
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