Watch What Crappens - #2306 Traitors and RHOP Part 2: MURDER BIRDS!

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

The reality stars continue to run around like chickens with their heads cut off on The Traitors (S02EP05), which is appropriate because it’s all about wacky birds on this week’s episode.&...nbsp; Plus, a familiar face returns to the castle.  Then on Potomac Karen attempts to engineer a cast trip to Surrey county.  Instead, a few of them do yardwork.   RHOP discussion starts at around 39:00To watch the video version of this recap and for our bonus episodes, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. And grab tickets for the 2024 Golden Crappies Awards Feb 17 at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondery's new podcast, Dis and Tell, wades into the glorious mess of celebrity beef. Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud and asks, what does our obsession with these feuds say about us? Follow Dis and Tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. Hi everyone, welcome back! This is part 2 of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, we'll go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. Let's get right back into the episode. So then, um, he's, you know, basically thinking he's super smart, which I thought it was pretty good. And he's like, yeah, if they walk into a trap, then the murder gets blocked and like a ton of information is revealed. Like that's the best case scenario, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:06 It's gonna feel so good if this plan works. Yeah, it's, I mean, it seems smart. I just, my instinct was you're already telling too many people. You can only tell the one person that you suspect because otherwise if you tell more than that, they're going to swap notes. You dumbass. You dumb dumb. Yeah. So, um, Janelle, now they're, they're all just like talking and stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So now Janelle is talking with Kevin and MJ and Berge. And she's like, you know, I just think we all need to like collectively talk as faithful and as a group who we think is the traitor. And I feel like yesterday was a distraction. Dan, he's not giving me anything. It's so obvious. He's a traitor. He hasn't given any information. I know his gameplay.
Starting point is 00:01:54 This matches his gameplay. This totally worked. And you know, Kevin was like, what? But you're a girl. I haven't even done anything. What did what did he do? She's like, I literally just explained why I know, why exactly I know what's down. He's like, but then didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It's like, isn't you are proving your point, Kevin, you fucking idiot, terrible group project participants. Yeah. He's a dumbass. So he's like, yeah, you know, facts are Janelle's behind every banishment. So Janelle's a perfect trader. And if not, then she's a sloppy faithful and getting rid of her is going to make room for more logical choices for us to get the real trader.
Starting point is 00:02:36 She's literally providing you with logic. She goes, here's the deal. If I'm throwing out, she, and here's some great logic she does right now. She goes, if I'm throwing out ideas and here's some great logic she does right now, she goes, if I'm throwing out ideas and trying to identify a trader, I'm being faithful. Someone that's a trader is never gonna try to figure out who a trader is because they already know.
Starting point is 00:02:56 They don't have to do anything. All they have to do is sit back, right? So let me, in summary, sitting back and being quiet, most likely traitor, being loud and being ridiculous like me right now, most likely a confused faithful. So what did you take away from that, Kevin? You're a traitor and dance faithful. You're a traitor. You're a traitor. You're a traitor. He doesn't get the logic at all.
Starting point is 00:03:24 But he's excited to be able to get rid of Jadalus. That way they can make more logical decisions. Yeah. You know the last time I did this? Like I went with Larson. She goes, yeah, I know, Kevin. I know. He goes, yeah, and now we're supposed to go with Dan.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I just don't feel good about it. You know, you just like keep telling us what to do. She's like, I didn't say we had to. I'm just saying like he's trader. So do what to do. She's like, I didn't say we had to. I'm just saying like he's a traitor. So do what you want. So now MJ is saying that she has suspected Dan because he's super quiet, but Janelle has gotten her hands dirty and she's been, you know, she's been pretty cutthroat and accuses other people.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Could that be that she's implicating that she's a traitor? Uh, no. In my mind, I'm like, this is classic sign of a, of a faithful who is totally confused. Yeah. Um, now MJ is like, I'm going to talk to Dan and Sandra. So she immediately goes and she's like, uh, she knows coming for you. So watch your ass. He's like, why, what's the reason in this game?
Starting point is 00:04:23 And Sandra's like, Oh, I thought that was your girl. And she goes, wait, she's getting hard, okay? She's like trying to get us to vote for Dan. And they're like, why, why, why? She goes, because you're never giving your suspicion to Dan. Like you're always saying, like you're saving it. And he's like, but it's because I don't know. Oh my God, how do they not pick up on this?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Also, how could they not pick up that like Janelle doesn't need to go hard on someone if she's a traitor because she can just murder them at night? I don't think it makes sense. Yeah. So they are still, so Janelle's like, no, no, I'm not mad at you. Thank you for telling me because in this game, you got to have information and here's what I know. Nothing. I don't have any ideas
Starting point is 00:05:07 mm-hmm and he's saying you know this is my first time getting heat but She's dangerous and I'm gonna have to take care of her don't don't don't So he goes yeah to throw my name for no reason That's the same thing that happened to Larsa and now it's's me. She was, yeah, there's like so many red flags. You guys, she is so convinced. It smells like shit. So then in another secret meeting between Dan and Parvati, he's like, Oh, great, they're coming for me now. You know, what are we
Starting point is 00:05:37 gonna do? Janelle wants to get me out. And she's like, Okay, then we got to take out Janelle. He goes, I don't know. I guess it's because I don't say any names. Okay. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go into the rest of this episode, not saying any names. I know. It's like, Dan, do yourself a favor and just come up with some kaka-mami, you know, story for something because people are getting onto you.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So Alan's like, it's not, he's's time. He's like the Alan talks to us. He goes, the round table so far has been a disaster for the people. But will the tables turn tonight? He's like no other. This game started with one player missing and we get a flashback to him in the first episode, saying that there was a player missing, which I totally forgotten about. Thankfully, thankfully, the NBC, I was complaining about this a few weeks ago, NBC after the third episode, like released, like they did like a press release
Starting point is 00:06:31 saying, oh, Kate Chastain is going to be joining the Traders and they blasted it everywhere in People Magazine and EW. Everyone wrote an article saying Kate Chastain is joining. And like, I guess this was a NBC sanctioned spoiler, but also like what the fuck I would have liked to have been surprised naturally instead of instead of you know via EW. I Saw that she tweeted something about it and I there was a clip I didn't watch it because I don't want to be spoiled But I just figured she was gonna be like a guest or something and come in and be like hi, it is me You're all dumb. Men like you, you know, uh, and then leave like, do maybe like a lead a challenge
Starting point is 00:07:09 or something and then leave. I didn't know she was actually being brought back in the game, but she is, she is a murderer and her name is kid Chastin. And she comes in and she's like, hi, I'm back. Did you miss me? And she goes, oh my God, it's a love letter from Alan. He's obsessed. Dear Kate, you're faithful. Oh my God, I hear his accent from this.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Oh my God, can we turn the level of duo lingo down for this? Thanks. Well, I'm a little, says dear Kate, you're faithful. Huh. What's the opposite of saying, huh? I'm a little disappointed that I'm not a traitor at this time because I really want to see the turret And I also just want to have a special coat, you know with a hood But in velvet and velvet and everything and also I just like to get the power to get rid of people that I just don't like Just be like get it that one disgusting stupid. Hey, where's Rachel?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Wherever she is in life get rid of her That'd be so great It would be awesome if I could just murder people here that I just don't like in my real life like Rachel get rid of her. She's stupid um Let's see. Oh that girl who's really bad at mopping on my second season. Fuck her fire her get rid of her You're only fine. Oh, um, what's the name of that for that stew? We don't adrian get rid of her. You're only five. Oh, what's the name of that, that's due? We don't, Adrienne, get rid of her. Gross.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Caroline, wherever you are, I just want you to know you're murdered. So. Just anyone, just a random person, just get rid of them. Okay, you had too many croissants. At the round table meeting, Dan's like, walking into this round table, I don't feel good at all.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I'm heavily targeted as a trader, but I'm not out of this thing. I had to do my best work with my backs against the wall and I have a few tricks planned at my sleeve now by not naming anyone. Let's see. Let's see. Janelle's like, I know Dan's a trader.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He's the best big brother player I've ever played I've ever played with. And I am 100% here to win. Dan's's a traitor. He's the best big brother player I've ever played with. And I am 100% here to win. Dan's got a coming. And I'm gonna start by being a total disaster at this round table. That's why I'm gonna accuse Dan and 20 other people. Extremely fatiguedly.
Starting point is 00:09:17 That's why I'm gonna do whatever I can to get people not on my side. You got you now. Oh my gosh. Okay. Everyone, here's why you should trust me, because you're all traitors. Well, listen to what I have to say. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:09:34 The traitors have murdered people. The prize pot currently stands at a cool $75,500,, 500, which should be spent from Belling Barbara, Peter's mother, out of local jail. God knows I have some little slutty trouble here, but that'll be up to you later. Let's welcome back somebody who terrifies blue-collar workers and white-collar workers, all the same. Kate Chastain.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Please welcome Kate. And then Kate walks in, they don't even, they just sort of like wedge her chair in there. They don't even like make it like nice. He spaced out. And now she's got like a folding chair. Like somewhere next to her came for Thanksgiving. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Like, ma'am, I'm sorry this reservation is for eight people. It's okay. Just like put me in the end. So Kate's like, I'm sure the players have a preconceived notion about me, either that I'm a bitchy person or a wild, unpredictable person. And all those things are true. And they're still ugly and un-style-ish. So, huh. Mm-mm. Please take your seat at the child seat in the round table. They've kept it warm for you.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Players, Kate will have a vote at this table. Hold on, costume change. It's me, Alam. I'm now wearing a dress made out of paper tools. Enjoy. Janelle's like, welcome Kate. And Kate's like, thank you. Tell me everything.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Who do we hate? And also, why is this folding chair so flimsy? Could you guys not have gotten just any other better chair than this plastic one? I feel like I'm gonna fall backwards any moment now. Is it lunchtime? Why is that guy eating with his mouth open? And Kevin's like, I'd like to state my case
Starting point is 00:11:19 without being interrupted if that's okay. She goes, okay. Well, can't really see who the douchebag is. Interrupted if that's okay. She goes okay Can't see who the douchebag is so yeah He's like um this group has a tendency to talk over each other and interrupt without listening So just to let you know heads up. I'm about to put a name of Janelle on the table as a trader today Janelle you've had a pattern of bring up names and they've been banished And it seems that it's always a morning discussion of Janelle being a traitor. And then somehow it turns out that she's able to rally people up in the evening. I'm like, yeah, it's been a morning discussion of everyone
Starting point is 00:11:53 being a traitor. Are you dipshit? And then more of its evidence, he goes, you know who else thought you were a traitor? Ek and Sue. And she was murdered. I was like, oh, okay. Listen, you can't bring Ecken Sue into a court case. You know what I mean? Like you can't, no one's, you're not helping a case. She may have Sue in her name, but do not bring her into a court case. Okay. Like also the worst thing a trader could do
Starting point is 00:12:19 is if someone is like vocally against you that you murdered them. Like that is like the most obvious thing to blow your cover. Yeah. Um, she's like, oh my God, I'm honestly not this mastermind. Do you think I am Kevin? Okay. Geez, I'm not a trader.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And then Bergi's like, I just want to say if I was a trader, I'd not be throwing out names like Chanel, you know. And if you're yelling out names and you're always incorrect, I mean, people would banish you just like, it's happening right now, right in the scenario, okay? I mean, she creates chaos and the trader's like chaos and that's why she's still here. It's like, wow, look at Berge coming out of left field.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I know. Whoever saw this coming, not me. So Kate's like, so who do you think are the traders? And Janelle goes, okay, I think Dan is a trader. I was like, oh, yes, yes, yes. And CT, I was like, oh, no, Janelle. She was, you were acting strange. And I think you're either working with a trader
Starting point is 00:13:13 or you are a trader and Sandra, you're a trader. Also, let's not overlook Alan. He's kind of a trader. And I think Kate, Kate's new, she's a trader. Also, I'm just gonna say it right now, Boogie. I know he's not technically in this castle right now, but I did play with him in season seven of big brother. I think he's a trader too.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Julie. Also, there was a, there was a stuffed peacock earlier, um, that made a funny recorded noise, probably a trader. I'm just saying it right now. I was like, whoa, whoa, you should have stopped it. Damn. What are you doing now? You're just like shooting all over the place.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Can we talk about Deontay? Cause even though he's not here, we can all agree he's still actually probably hidden somewhere and he's probably being a traitor. Right? Yeah. We all agree on that. Oh my gosh. So she's just called Sandra a traitor too.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And Sandra is like, well, all of these days we've been in sync. And then as of today, you come in here saying it's, you know, between me and Dan and like, what kind of crap is that? Huh? That was bad. I think actually it was, it was really bad going against Sandra and CT, because I think they could have been really persuasive to Janelle's side. So, it's like, um, Sandra, who do you think are the traders? Well, I gave Janelle the benefit of the doubt, but I think that she's the trader.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And he teased like, he's like, yeah, since we've been here, I've done nothing. You, I've done everything you asked for. And now all of a sudden you get some, you get some heat on you. You're just going to like throw me under the bus, which is too bad for the bus. Cause I like to see a bus try to drive over these thunder thighs.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Am I right everyone? I would just like to say something at this stage. Janelle has got tremendous ability as she can see the others around her and without boasting she can make an assessment that she's well placed to succeed and do I hold that against her? I don't. Okay, thanks. He's like and...
Starting point is 00:15:04 Thanks John. Hold on. Let me try and breathe. From my inhaler. That's not even a real inhaler. It's a diet coke. Can you stupid dad? So Kevin's like, oh really? Well, John, who do you think it is?
Starting point is 00:15:12 And then John's like, well, I told you last night and I thought you were the traitor, actually. So John, you were doing well. That night, and I thought you were the traitor, actually. So John, you were doing well. That's not gonna help move the needle on Kevin, though. And your conduct is the conduct of somebody who shifts from one persona to another very suddenly. And Janella is consistent to manner. She's awful.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Awful but shallow. That's one pool that a baby can always swim in. And for that I say thank you. I'm not going to say that Janella is a total disaster, but I will say that she did accuse me of breathing funny minus three seconds after we were all given our rose. So that's pretty bad. Pretty bad. So Kate's like, um, MJ, what's the name of the guy who's talking again? And she tells him and he goes, Kate, could you listen?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Wow. I was like, you better be careful, Kevin. You do not want to mess with the Kate. And she goes, Oh yeah, I got it. I got it. You think Janelle's a traitor? Got it. And Kate does the Kate thing where she discusses.
Starting point is 00:16:27 She does like an inside ha or sick. She's like, you have no idea how awful I could make your life. So, um, uh, John is like, Kevin's like, no, I, I see, you weren't listening. I said, I'm talking to John right now. And John's like, well, I think you're talking to the table traitor. And Kevin is such a cocky asshole. Like how you can't be dumb and cocky. Yeah. I think so now just because I'm an actor, I'm a traitor.
Starting point is 00:16:56 First of all, no one has proof that you're an actor. I don't think that anybody has proof. You can call yourself whatever you want. There is no evidence to, sir, to suggest that you're an actor. Okay? Yeah Like literally no evidence including probably an IMDB Credit I think that Heather DeBrow probably has a longer IMDB than yours Kevin Okay, it's like, um, are there any other names anyone's thinking of because I'm getting bored and Peter's like, um, I hate to say it because we're close.
Starting point is 00:17:26 You're talking about me, your mother. Oh, we are close. God, I love my son. Nope. Mom, there's gotta be at least one guy in the traders based off of nothing. So, and I look at all the guys that are left and do I feel like you for sure have contributed the least? Yes, Dan.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And that is kind of a red flag for me. So I'm going to say Dan, um, by the way, he has been in the Asian or something called Asian persuasion in 2023 bling empire, which obviously not an actor and something called ugly model in 2019. And one episode of something called the Netflix after party. So those are what he's been known for. He's done, he's got four acting, 14 acting credits.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's not bad, let's see. Heist, morning after gone wrong, Devon Depp, dating after college, Cat loves LA, Bruce, Finding Tomorrow, Phantomite, never heard of anything. Sir, I stand by it. Yeah, still, I do not believe that Kevin has a notable acting career.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Mm, so Kevin's like, he's a politician. He's just accusing me because that's what politicians do. I do not believe that Kevin has a notable acting career. So Kevin's like, he's a politician. He's just accusing me because that's what politicians do. They take your taxes and then they accuse you of things. Everybody knows that. So Peter accuses Dan. Peter's like, I'd like to say something. Dan's a traitor.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And Dan's like, okay, I know you don't know me and I like to hear evidence and reasons why you think that. And Kate's like, well, you also win everything. Yeah. But, um, I don't take it personal. So you think I'm a trader? Like I'd love to hear the reasons why I've done that to make you feel like I'm actually
Starting point is 00:19:00 a trader right now. So like if you have won some reasons, uh, like, can you give me some cause like in this game, um, I'm not a trader right now. So like, if you have won some reasons, like, can you give me some? Because like in this game, I'm not a trader. So I think that pretty much absolves me. Thanks. Jamel says, I'm literally when I come to you and say, give me a name, like, who do you think is a trader? And like, you like literally have nothing to say about it down. Never anything to say down. I mean, come on, Dan. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, no, that's a great question. By the way, that right there is the, is a tell if someone goes, that's a great question to build a round table.
Starting point is 00:19:32 That would be honest with you. Let me be honest with you right now. Okay. I gotta be honest. That's another one. Because the way I'm playing this game is the way I play Big Brother. I'm like, and you want Big brother, Dan. Okay. So. You want big brother through mass deception. He's like, I can use those skills to help find the faithful. I learned a few people, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:51 I learned a few people and I put a thousand percent trust in them and then sitting back and waiting to see who the traders are. Like that's how I'm going to do it. I'm just like, you've done nothing Dan. Okay. All you do is sit back and don't say a name and you do nothing and you just watch people.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And he goes, Oh, okay. So that means I'm a traitor doing nothing. Okay. She's like, yeah, cause you're not acting like a faithful. And now to me, this is obvious. I mean, of course we know that Dan's a traitor and that's the thing where it's unfair because it's like, of course it's obvious. I know, but I just think Dan is such a bad actor.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I can't believe this wasn't completely obvious to everybody. Yeah. And like when he says, like, like, I, you know, I'm playing this game the way I play Big Brother, as if that's supposed to exonerate him. I'm like, anyone who's watched Big Brother knows that Dan is like extremely, he's extremely shrewd with his social game. Like that is not an advertisement for being faithful. Yeah. So then Trichelle agrees. She's like, yeah, Dan never says anything guys. And the rest of us put targets on ourselves. And she now goes, yeah, like me, I just named 30
Starting point is 00:21:00 people. I just named people from Wheel of Fortune. Okay. Contestants of Will of Fortune. I named his traders, Sam. Okay. And by the way, Trashel makes a good point too, which is not only is it suspicious that he doesn't put out people's names, but it's also not being helpful to the group because he's not contributing any ideas or thoughts. So like, wow, Trashel actually came up with a point. So Peter's like, okay, just prove it. Just prove it by giving us one name. And he goes, okay, well, I'm gonna say Janelle.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Well, yeah, cause Janelle's coming for you, you know? And this is another thing. It's like, obviously, you're gonna say, target at the table. You're just, well, you're just like piggybacking onto Kevin's cockamamie theory, right? Right. So he's like, I think I've been blinded in my friendship
Starting point is 00:21:44 with Janelle and the thing is I have an issue with is that like we Can't pin all these banishments on one person But you led the charge or more than that anyone else and you've taken two or three shots and missed and I've defended her And I should have done that you know what but that's my fault and I can't trust you anymore I can't move forward with you in this game. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crap-N's commercial. Being an actual royal is never about finding your happy ending. But the worst part is, if they step out of line or fall in love with the wrong person, it changes the course of history.
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Starting point is 00:22:41 Think succession meets the crown meets real life. We're going to pull back the gilded curtain and show how royal status might be bright and shiny, but it comes at the expense of, well, everything else. Like your freedom, your privacy, and sometimes even your head. Follow Even The Royals on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Even The Royals early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. So now they're, now they're gonna vote and everything. They're gonna go around the table. So MJ votes for Janelle, which I was very disappointed with. I'm like, MJ, you were on the case two episodes ago. You snipped it out and completely abandoned that instinct.
Starting point is 00:23:34 What is happening? This is not right. I think when people accuse somebody else and that person doesn't go home, they're like, okay, well I accused them and I guess I was proved wrong by the fact that they, I voted you know and No, stick with it stick with your house guys stick with your dick with the dreams exactly So she votes for Janelle and Phaedra votes for Janelle and she's like I do love you. I hope we can still be friends
Starting point is 00:24:01 It was so cold Sandra of course votes votes against Chanel. And she's like, she was the last faithful recluded and that's why she changed on them. And then she was like, spoken like a true traitor. Yeah, drink that water. You're nervous, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:24:16 You are nervous, aren't you, Sandra? She's like, my mouth is dry. I had to watch people run today and I'm still exhausted from it all. Yeah, okay, Sandra, whatever. It's just, you're a traitor. No, you're a fucking traitor. No, you're a fucking traitor.
Starting point is 00:24:29 You're a traitor, bitch. No, you're the biggest traitor. So fuck off you. You fuck off. Okay. It's like, oh, this is great. I love this season already. I love it. You are fight. This is great.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So Peter votes for Dan. John was dedicated to anybody who thinks there are actual scriptwriters in reality television. And yet still more funny than most it comes on TV right now. So then Peter, Peter and Dan, I'm sorry, Peter and John both vote for Dan. And so does Janelle, of course. And then poverty votes for Janelle, of course, because poverty is a traitor. And then Kevin, of course, votes for Janelle Trichelle votes for Dan. And then Dan's like, I vote for Janelle.
Starting point is 00:25:15 She's either a traitor or a faithful that I just can't trust in this game. And CT, obviously, Janelle, Cheray votes for Janelle, and Bergey votes for Dan, and he's like, I'm a little suspicious that Janelle, you know, now you come up with a name, and of course it's Janelle who just came for you, Dan.
Starting point is 00:25:37 The only one that Dan has been able, after all this time, the only theory that Dan has is that it could be Janelle. Yeah, and Kate's like, well, listen, I did watch Big Brother and I learned that those people are extremely stupid, but you also have to go with the group or otherwise they stone you in the street. So Janelle, bye. Also, there's really only room for one overly judgmental blonde lady on the season. Goodbye. a overly judgemental blonde lady on the season. Goodbye. I was deeply heartbroken that we could never have at least just one episode of Kate and Janelle interacting. Cause like that would have been one of my greatest dreams come true.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Oh yeah. So Janelle's voted out and she goes in the circle of life. My husband did that. No crystal. Get off of this crystal. You don't even do enough on your own show to deserve to be here. Go. Janelle's like, by the way, everyone, Crystal Kung, she's also a traitor. Just want to put that out there. She's in the accusation circle.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So she's like, like in Big Brother, I played a very competitive game. And like in Big Brother, I was loyal and I was honest. And I'm a faithful, you idiots. But also like in Big Brother, you just went too crazy for no reason. You went ham on people for no reason and totally lost votes from people that you needed. Janelle, come on.
Starting point is 00:27:03 So she's voted out and I'm mad at her because I actually love watching her on this show and it was too fucking soon, man. And Berge is like, good job guys. Good job. You're trusting the traders. And Sheree's like, well, I just had to go buy her actions. I went by nothing else. But her actions also have no idea what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:27:26 What is this camera playing? Sheree has no idea what game she's on. She just thinks she's on vacation in Scotland and has like very strange rules in her Airbnb. And MJ goes, wow, and Berge says, for some people maybe. Oh, by the way, my fingers are crossed that the people look at who voted for Janelle and who voted for Dan and like use some logic to say, okay, everyone who voted for Dan, we have a very strong reason to believe that they were probably faithful. So now we have a smaller pool of people that we can accuse of being traders. Can we do that? Like, oh, my goodness. No, that's not my dream.
Starting point is 00:28:11 It'll never happen. I want to do that. No, sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to bring that idea into evidence. To play this game, you must treat it like a game of chess. That's a game where you can look it up when you get home. Because I'm sure none of you know what happened. Have you heard of chess? Do you know about chess? You know it's more than a cake, right?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Well, you've just sacrificed a piece that's bad in chess. A smart people's game. All right. All right. Let's say it like this. This is like a game of scrabble. Damn it. We need new people here to help me out with this one. All right. All right. let's say it like this. This is like a game of scrabble. Damn it. We need new people here to help me out with this one. All right, all right. We got to, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Think of this, a little bit of this way. This is like the game of life. And you've just inherited your uncle Skunk Farm, which I don't know if this is helping you guys. I think you're now confused. You guys are all, okay, you're all texting your lawyers about Skunks. No, you didn't actually get a skunk
Starting point is 00:29:05 farm. It's terrible analogy. They all think they have money to them. You're old stupid. So he leaves and MJ is like, Oh my God, this was like my first mistake. And Kevin's like, no, no, this was my problem. We went down my route. This was my mistake. And Dan's like, listen, I just want to say whoever wrote my name down, I get it. You know, it's all good. Okay. I'm not going to be mad at you right now. Oh my God. Are you so obvious? So, yeah. So now Berge is like very convinced. They're going to find the trader soon. They're
Starting point is 00:29:40 going to find the soon. And Dan's like, I just dodged a bullet by delivering votes away from me and onto Janelle. I've won season of one of season of big brother. I resurrected from my own funeral and that round table was harder than both of those things combined. So now they're all dismissed and Berge talks with Dan and Kevin and a few other people. And he's like, Dan, please speak up with us. And he's like, I will, I will from now on. Now I'm going to speak up and they go, okay. So do you have any idea?
Starting point is 00:30:13 Do you have any names to throw out there? And he's like, if I survive tonight, then I'll throw one out in the morning. I got to sleep on it. Like, oh, do you guys give me a few hours to come up with the plan. I will totally have something because I'm a faithful. And Berge is like, well, I'm watching you because your name's on my chalkboard
Starting point is 00:30:32 right now until you. Okay, Berge, calm down. Okay. Now is the point where you're like, Hey, a trader just stayed in the game. And the next move, the traders get to murder somebody. So be quiet now. But Berge has a shield. So maybe that's why he's feeling like he can pop off a little bit.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh, that's true. But they lied and said that they don't, that Berge doesn't have a shield. They lied and said Peter. Oh, right. Well, but the thing is this, no one in this game actually pays attention to people's behavior and what would, what would be expected behavior, given, given the set of circumstances circumstances that each individual person is in. So it's not really an issue for Birdie. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So then Dan's like, oh my God, you know what? I would love to see the look on your faces if I'm murdered tonight, right? You know what I mean, guys? You know what I mean? That would be crazy, right? If I was murdered, right? Right, right, guys?
Starting point is 00:31:20 High fives. High fives. It could totally happen, right? Right? So anyway, C-Teen, MJ, they're patching things up. Right, right guys. High five. It could totally happen, right? Right. So anyway, C.T. and M.J., they're patching things up because I guess C.T. is like, oh, you like me again? She's like, when have I never liked you, whatever. And she calls in Silly Billy from Philly and Manili
Starting point is 00:31:39 with a pocket full of chili. Didn't really make sense. So then Kate is looking at the, uh, the wall of wall of portraits, the ones that have all the X's on them and stuff. And she's with Dan and Parvati and Sandra and everyone. And she was like, huh, well, I'm so bummed I didn't get to meet at Kinsu. What happened there? Was she just like too dumb to be on the show? You can say it if it's true. And they tell her that she got poisoned and Phaedra's like, yeah, they gave her a slow
Starting point is 00:32:08 acting poison and she goes, huh, I'm a little surprised these people aren't doing better. I mean, they're just all looking at me like, please help us. We haven't gotten any traders. We suck. Please help us. I mean, I roast a fame on a show about a boat. I never gave anybody a life jacket. Literally have watched multiple people drown.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Why are they looking at me? I'm here to drown you. And then Kate literally says, well, I'm not taking any wine from poverty that she just offered. Pour your own cup, am I right? Where did she pull that out of? Where did that come from?
Starting point is 00:32:42 I don't know. I don't know, I think she probably watches the show and was like, oh my God, good Lord. You've got a villain like Parvati coming at you with a glass of wine and you take it like idiots. But everyone's like, what a funny joke by Kate Chastain. Probably shouldn't read into it. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, Pedro's like, poor your own cop. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:33:03 So now Peter is meeting up with John and Kevin and Berkey and he's like, uh, yeah, Phaedra's like, poor you round cup. Jesus. So now Peter is meeting up with John and Kevin and Berge. And he's like, okay, listen, I told CT, Parvati and Dan already in confidence and all very secretly that I got the shield with Janelle. And it was just to give huge cover because now we have protection to more than just two people, right? So when, who really has the shield is Berge and Trichelle We're gonna learn so much by voting like well. It doesn't work if you tell literally everybody in the house right and also if the
Starting point is 00:33:35 Traders just murder someone else you will learn nothing nothing right So Peter's like if they if they murder, I told only three people, well, and then the three of you. And then I told Alan, and then, oh, I think I did make an announcement. Now that I think about that round table, I did say, you guys, I'm the only one with a shield. So I did say that. So I think everyone knows that only three people really know, right? It's going to work guys. Um, he's like, yeah, and if it's blocked, it's because they're actually protected. Like it's got to be one of those three. It's one of those three guys. It's one of those three.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And, um, so now they're Kevin's just like, how did you learn that? Did they teach you this stuff in pie in, in a pilot school? That was a joke. I learned how to tell jokes when I was preparing for my role in cat loves Los Angeles. Was that one of his credits? Cat loves Los Angeles. Asian persuasion. Learn that in Asian persuasion. 23. It's coming out. So everybody's heading up to bed and Kate's like, so, but it's anelle's room. Like, was it big? Anybody want to show me? Is it better than mine? I mean, Kevin's like, you're taking Janelle's room?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Wow, you're a traitor. She's like, you know, why wouldn't I? She's gone. So then we go to the turret and the traitors are gathering and Dan's like, hi, let Bajram, Barberty have the last two murders. So now I'm going from complete defensive mode to 100 percent aggressive mode, which, by the way, is literally exactly how Janelle described his gameplay.
Starting point is 00:35:13 He plays possum until the numbers aren't aside. And then he goes into attack mode. Like it's literally that. Why did people not listen to her? Yeah. And he's like, OK, guys, we're not doing great. And Fadre's like, oh my God, you are in trouble. He's like, yeah, but I still made it. She goes, you've got to be ready, Dan,
Starting point is 00:35:31 because you're still in the hot seat. And he goes, yeah, that's something, you know, I can be more vocal. She's, but your vocal has to make sense. It can't just be, I'm going to wait until I know for sure. That doesn't make sense, Dan. He's like, okay. You know, she is fully in lawyer, lawyer mode to her client. Like, yeah. How many times has she had this conversation with her shady clients? Like, and this is, uh, Phadra Parks, Esquire.
Starting point is 00:35:55 They are losing here. You're losing the jury, buddy. And, um, Parvish is, I'm Parvish. Sorry. I know a guy named Parvish. Hi, Parvish. Parvity is like, um, so who are you going to put up as an aim if you're going to be more vocal? And he goes, uh, I'm going to sleep on the
Starting point is 00:36:10 night. Phrasier goes, my God, you're doing it to us. So she's like, oh, come on. She goes, listen, you better get ready because if you keep playing like this, I'm going to have to embalm you myself, you know? They are so mad at him. They're like, come on, Dan. He's like, okay, is this the round table or is it the trader's turret? The property is like, we're just trying to give you some mild encouragement. Would you like a headband? I find it to be very helpful and comforting. He's like, no, no, no. This isn't my first rodeo. I'm just going to leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Peter's like, well, honey, I don't mean to act like it because they know it's not your first rodeo. I mean, so he's saying, okay. I like it. Yeah. He's saying, guys, okay, well, we have an issue tonight. Okay. You know, do, does anyone have an inkling of who has the shield and part of poverty is like, oh, well, Peter's told me after the challenge. And it was just us. He said that he and Janelle have the shields and he's like, but I'm just
Starting point is 00:37:11 telling you in confidence. And he goes, yeah, well, he told me that too. And she says, okay, well, obviously then he's lying because if he would tell you and me, then he probably thinks that we're traitors and he's trying to sniff us out. So now we have to murder someone who was not there because obviously they don't have the shields, right? Right. And so Dan's like, yeah, I mean, and probably like, well, do you trust Peter? And he's like, I don't know. I don't think he's that savvy. And probably like, but I think to be safe, we need to pick someone who wasn't in that group today and
Starting point is 00:37:52 Dan's like, okay. I'm gonna tell you I need this murder and it's rolling the dice, but we have to take out Berge He said there's no way he's not gonna write my name down next. Oh No, no, no, no, no and Parvati just moans. She's like, oh god and Dan's like listen I know you're tied with them, but I think Sandra's a waste. You know, MJ's a waste. How is Sandra or MJ a waste? MJ also called out your name. I know. Probably then suggest John. And then Dan is like, Dan's basically like he wants to roll the dice with Berge. And Peter's like, on Berge. That's desperate. That's just desperate.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah, they know it when they seem to know at this point that the people who are playing the outside, someone has a shield and Peter's lying and saying it's him. So that only leaves four other people and he's going to choose one and he's also going to choose the most obvious one because he was sitting there being accused of this person the whole night. Oh my God. Yeah. And so I'm part, I don't know why poverty is pushing for John, but she is. And Pedro's like, look, John's calculating, but you know, if you have the correct conversation and interaction with them, you can probably sway him. So the choice, Dan says the choices are John,
Starting point is 00:39:00 play it safe and do John, Sandra or MJ, which he thinks is a waste or roll the dice on Berge. And so, Phaedra's like, but I love Berge. And Dan says, well, I'm pretty confident he doesn't have a shield, you know? So this is, this murder is going to either win me the game or it's going to lose me the entire game. And she's like, well, I can't believe I'm agreeing to this. But at the end of the day, I'm a team player. So let the chips fall where they may. So this is Dan's thing, I think, since his last season, a big brother, where it's, he's about to go out
Starting point is 00:39:36 and then he makes some huge move that shocks everybody and is enough to keep him in the game. And it looks like from the coming next week, and they edit these things so that we can't really tell what's going to happen. But it looks like he finally does go to the round table and accuse somebody, and it better not be Phaedra. If he, are they allowed to turn on other traders?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Oh hell yeah. I remember last season, that's what happened. Um, they threw, I think they threw, did they throw Cody under the bus? I was Cody, right, yeah. They definitely like. I think so, yeah. I think this is a distraction. Like I would love for Dan to whiff with Berge.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I don't think he's gonna do it because it would be, Berge was so vocal about Dan being the traitor that if Dan kills Berge, that just brings so much more heat onto Dan. Unless Dan decides he's going to do this thing where he says, if I were the traitor, that would be the dumbest thing for me to do. I would never do that as the traitor. Why would I kill someone who is onto me? And Dan is capable of having that conversation. So I don't know. I'm like, I cannot, I'm like, I cannot wait to see how this pans out.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Um, I hope, I hope it just goes like crazy wrong. Yeah. Okay. Well, that is the end of the traders recap. Now we're going to talk about Real Housewives of Potomac for a little bit. Yeah. So Potomac, you know, Potomac is having a season. It's having a season. What can I say? I don't know. Potomac, you know, look, Potomac is always fun to watch either, you know, even now, even now. I mean, today we got some gold, we got some little gold nuggets from the show. One was we found out that Giselle and Ashley are going to be starting
Starting point is 00:41:32 an athleisure fashion line. Ashley and Giselle, two of the least fashionable people to ever appear on Bravo. And this is a network built around Kyle Richards. So that's saying something. And this is a network built around Kyle Richards. So that's saying something. Two of the least tasteful people on Bravo starting an athleisure line and it's gonna be called GNA. Yeah. And every time they mentioned like their athleisure line, the producers put up their logo on the screen and then they added kind of like that falcon noise,
Starting point is 00:42:02 that noise that normally plays when someone's walking through a deserted canyon. It's like, yes. Like, I was at their way of saying this brand is dead on arrival because literally Giselle is, Giselle is like known for being like one of the worst dressed people on Bravo. The fact that she's coming out with any sort of fashion line just feels wrong. Well, what we see of it is terrible. They have some like pink lace for the like legging pants that Giselle is wearing, I think. It's just is not looking good.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And Ashley has to go, wait a minute. I'm not sure about this. Is Valor breathable? And she's like, oh. Why is Valor in the conversation? She's like, well, here's what we're going for with this. We're going for ages about 12 years old to 65. Wow.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I love a target at 10 months. Specificity. Specificity. She's like, it's going to be a little Lululemon mixed with Rihanna's Fenty. It's like for 12-year-old. For 12-year-old. I don't know. It's, to me, it's reading more like, what was it called?
Starting point is 00:43:08 Luluro, Lularo, whatever that. Lularo. Yeah. Yeah. That's what, to me, this, this speaks of an MLM where you like you get to have, you know, that you get to choose certain things and you put your brand on and say, this is what I'm selling, whatever. Like something just feels fishy about this to me already. Yeah. It looks terrifying.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And she says she wants it to be like Lulu lemon, but with rhinestones. Sounds super comfortable. Good luck to you too. I don't trust, by the way, a late season announcement of like a fashion line. Like that's why I get some sort of MLM vibe off of this because one doesn't just say,
Starting point is 00:43:51 Oh, we're starting an athleisure line. And here we already have our samples. Like, I feel like the ramp up to start an athleisure line is, is long and difficult. And so I feel like they are just plugged into some sort of sketchy group of people almost like those people that were funding Sonia's clothing, those guys from New Jersey. Like, this is something is, something is fishy here. I'm going to tell you that right now. Oh, wait, do you mean when she got picked up for? Century 21. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Well, maybe like the year, right? Maybe like the year before that actually. It was like, remember there was that guy who had like, or was it Bethany who went in and was like, okay, let me look at your books. I don't understand your books. What's going on here? What's this expense? I don't understand this.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Why use this paper? Do you even have a pen here? What sort of office doesn't have pens? I've also got some bad news here. I just looked up GNA Apparel and it is already a company. GNA is a clothing brand, DM for orders. All GNA products are made manually based on the customers measurements and are non-returnable. Let me look at this. Are they doing that? Are they doing that? Sure. Is it possible that GNA is a company and then Giseelle and Ashley just like made the initials work for them?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Like they're just gonna be selling GNA stuff. We're calling it GNC. Clothes that you can eat for nutrition. This is, they also do have their own website, which is Christmas decorations, like black and white Christmas decorations, like I guess Christmas decorations made by who's that? It's like Mackenzie Child, like a variation of Mackenzie Child. It's like a German expressionism turned into,
Starting point is 00:45:35 you know, Christmas ornaments. Yes, and their website I guess went up at Christmas. So this is Christmas stuff. So they're really keeping on top of that. I mean, your episode just came out about this, maybe update it from beyond Christmas, you know, but they've got what five things they've got a pretty simple t-shirt with a crooked, by the way, this is so non wrong guys, this logo. They've got a baseball cap, a knit cap, a pair of socks, another t-shirt, and a sleeveless shirt that says GNA.
Starting point is 00:46:09 So. By the way, also, the way that their logo is, the N, the N to me reads like an R. Graw. Graw. Graw. They should actually, like, they should have called it GNA, like, like Giselle and Ashley Wear, and that way it could have been GNAW No, no, well, that's the response that they're probably gonna get but they had
Starting point is 00:46:33 They have six items here. So maybe they just haven't really gone there But it says full line coming spring 2024. So there you go. I guess we'll, we'll have to wait and see. But so far, I, I hate white socks and a black cap. I hate Janelle's top on this website. It's just like it's so, it's too much. It's just too, it's like it's, it's too, like it's the logo all over it. And it's like not in a way that looks cool to me. It looks like it's just saying nag, nag, nag, nag, nag. It literally says nag under her breasts. I'm saying, Greg. Greg, Greg, Greg, Greg.
Starting point is 00:47:14 It's like a worst match. It's like we just, we basically take out what we put into it. You know, and they're both wearing the knit caps and have a tree decorated in the socks. Okay, guys. It's time to, time to do a little bit of a brand refresh now that it's no longer Christmas. I'm just gonna be out there. Also, I don't know how Robin's going to feel about you guys selling baseball caps.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Hello. I know. I've forgotten about Robin's baseball cap line. Especially when embellish is, you know, taking the fashion world by storm. Yeah. especially when embellish is you know taking the fashion world by storm yeah you don't want to step on any toes in the world of fashion yep okay so then we see Karen doing the scenes with her family where Aunt Val and David it's like you guys remember my Aunt Val and my cousin David, don't you? We are going to start the current resort and spa in Surrey County. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:10 They're trying to get this thing up and running here. So she's, you know, she's bought her grandmother's house, old house, and she's going to turn it into a guest resort. And, you know, this is going to be the thing that's going to turn Surrey County, USA, into the next Opry land, if you ask me. Yeah. And I liked it. She goes, she has a meeting with them and she goes, well, have you thought of your secession? I love when they show that clip of her spin-off show where they tried playing the succession
Starting point is 00:48:43 music to make it the same thing. So have you thought about your succession? And so she has them over and she goes, yeah, so now that I have the house, I'm trying to figure out if it's going to be a structure we can use, or if we are going to demolish it and build a new structure. I'm like, Karen, you just said last week your grandmother's house is going to be a historical site in Surrey County where you're going to celebrate the town and let people see like a hundred year old house or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And now you're going to demolish it. But then later on when they go to the house, I was like, is it safe for people to be inside this structure? I was like, this thing, I feel like this thing is barely standing up. It does not feel safe in there. Just as she calls it a resort too is hilarious. Like, okay, people are gonna go pay to stay in front of your aunt, Vow's house.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Cause you've been there? I'm trying to confuse, I'm kind of confused about what this is supposed to be, but it's a place for retreats also. You can have your corporate retreat there, you know, and be there. Later on, Karen and Ray have actually seen at a restaurant, which I bring up only,
Starting point is 00:49:49 cause it cracked me up how ridiculous it was. First of all, when they order, this is what the order was. I think I'm gonna start with a dragon roll. And then I think I'm gonna have a shrimp Alfredo. I was like, what menu is this? What menu has a dragon roll that you can also get a shrimp Alfredo on? And then while she's sitting there with her big bowl of shrimp Alfredo, she starts
Starting point is 00:50:10 talking about how she has to take her health more carefully because there's there's plaque in her arteries. She's like, I gotta be careful with that. With my cholesterol now. Ooh, this shrimp Alfredo is delicious. Deliciously. Specifically, she has 5% of plaque. Got a 5% of plaque in my heart.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I need to start taking this seriously. Now Ray, I'm gonna have shrimp Alfredo, and you're not gonna share this. Are you Ray? Why are you looking at the happy hour? We're gonna look over here at this other page, full price, which means I love my wives. Okay, Ray?
Starting point is 00:50:42 So I'm not gonna share it with Ray. I'm gonna have my own thing. Now Ray, what are you gonna have? Are you gonna share that with me, Ray? Wait,'m not going to share with Ray. I'm going to have my own thing. Now, Ray, what are you going to have? You're going to share that with me, Ray. Wait, I've got a question. I know you have a dragon roll. Is it possible that you might have a Alfredo roll? Just some sort of roll where we could put Alfredo sauce in the middle. Just roll it up with rice because I would love that right now. Anyway, my heart. Oh, one thing that is that also we should mention is that Karen is thinking about using her grandma's place potentially to be a like like a weed farm or something because Val is like
Starting point is 00:51:15 just don't do anything freaky and she's like like what she's like you know like people like naked and running around like hippies or whatever she's like like, no, no, no, but I am thinking about getting into Ganja, which of course like gives all the post producers all sorts of like erections because now they can fill the screen with like Ganja imagery. Like this is, I think it's time to maybe like close the chapter on goofy visual effects for weed on Bravo. Like I think like weed is legal like almost like everywhere. That's Karen's like thing.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Like when they show Karen the high cam, you know, or Karen like has her hair. When the moon is in. They love giving Karen those moments. Remember last year when she took her COVID medicine or whatever and she was all high? That was like one of the top moments of the year. They played the clip like 10 times. Uh, well, that was just my personal critique because I feel like it's every show.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Someone says mentions weed and then we are stuck with like five minutes of like groovy visual effects. Yeah. Someone came up with it for a Shaz of Sunset member for, uh, also when she would do those things like I'm just a hippie and they would do that. And now they use them for every show. Like we paid 15 extra dollars an hour to get that effect made and
Starting point is 00:52:24 we're going to use it for every show. Like we paid 15 extra dollars an hour to get that effect made. And we're going to use it for every show. Seriously. Okay. So then, um, that dinner was also funny because Karen is going to make a cast trip going to this house in Surrey County, uh, to do yard work, which we find out later. And it's only going to be a certain amount of people who get to come on this very glamorous trip because Karen only has a certain amount of liability insurance, so she can only have so many people.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I don't know what the fuck any of this means. I'm taking it that Karen is lying out her ass again, but I don't really know why. Oh, and then she tells Ray, I put the names that I wanted of people into a hat and then I pulled the names Ray. So I'm not lying. I did pull the names out of that. Right. 20, 20, 20. He's like, I just want the popcorn shrimp. That's all the happy hour menu. Absolutely not. So then, um, Mia goes to assault sanctuary, which what's with this show and their salt?
Starting point is 00:53:27 Did they do this before? Yeah. They went to a salt cave or something before, right? Karen, yeah, Karen and Ashley went, I think I, I specifically remember that scene. I remember being, I just, for some reason, that scene is like seared into my head. Cause I remember watching it many years ago and I remember falling asleep during that scene. And for some reason, like I remember waking up and being like, during salt, I don't know. Like for some reason, I'm just like, yes, they've done this before. But this is like a different salt place. Yeah. This was like lawn chairs, lawn chairs and salt.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Because the other one I feel like with salt walls where they have pink salt walls and this one they're just like, here's some salt on the floor. Sitting this lawn. This was Morton's. Yeah, that one, the one they went to, it was had like salt bricks and everything. And it was also like, it was like in the, it was like a back room of something else and it looked really nice. But this one was just literally Kirkland brand folding chairs that you'd get to go see Dave Matthews and, and tailgate on the parking lot with.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And the lady who runs it's like, okay, uh, we're going to turn on a humidifier. Just breathe in the salts. Sounds great. Yeah. Thank you. So they go and Mia's talking to Robin. Um, and, uh, Robin is tells a story about how this one time I saw him to Karen and she like, opened up her phone
Starting point is 00:54:46 And I kid you not there was a picture of me and Juan and the kids and like I've never told a single soul that story. I'm like yeah, cuz it's not an interesting story like She probably sent the photo. She probably had the photo because she probably sent it to Zell to be like look at her Trying to pretend like she has a good family. So Robin is now convinced that Karen has actually been like obsessed with her in a quite literal way. Yeah. Um, no, she was mocking some new story about your husband cheating. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Exactly. That's why that photo was there. Um, so Mia's like, so I got a lawyer for my divorce and I'm thinking of looking into that. Um, are you guys in therapy? And Robin's like, no, we don't really need therapy. Are you sure that you don't need it? I'm saying no, because our stuff is like, it's not stuff between us. It's like stuff that other people brings between us.
Starting point is 00:55:45 You know, it's not like actually me and me and Juan that have a problem. Yeah. You guys seem like you're doing great. Uh, really, uh, feel like you guys are not candidates to have therapy whatsoever. You guys, everything is just smooth sailing. Yeah, it's going great over there. Um, and then Eddie and Wendy have date night at Jamaican. Um, this is one of those scenes just they put in to make us feel even dumber.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Because remember at the beginning of the season when Eddie was wearing that shirt that said happy Eddie and we're like, why would you just take a criticism, like a slam from somebody else and make a shirt? Like everything doesn't need to be a t-shirt. Well, it was not just for t-shirts. It was for his weed line called Happy Eddie. Yeah. So they're just talking about Happy Eddie and, um, for like, Wendy's talking about how, oh, my goodness, this job that she's this, this show she's trying to launch is so difficult.
Starting point is 00:56:38 She's got to find a producer and guests and yada, yada, yada. I'm like, we need to end this storyline right now. And then Eddie is doing his whole like launching happy Eddie and it takes a lot of time and he's, he's a lawyer and it's taking away time from that. And they're both busy and she goes to sleep sometimes and he's not in bed yet and he comes in at 2am and they're busy. They're busy with their two very dull entrepreneurial endeavors. Well, hers is real. I mean she has a YouTube thing She's got 17.3 followers. I just looked it up. It's called the dr. Wendy Ocefo show The the dr. Wendy show and the first episode is called. What if you fly?
Starting point is 00:57:18 What if you fly what if you fly yeah, I thought it'd be like what if you fly domestically, but you know Don't want to spend that money, but it's just what if you fly just Yeah. I thought it'd be like, what if you fly domestically, but you know, don't want to spend that money. But it's just what if you fly, just fly. That's it. She had said last week that she had to fire that original producer, which I was surprised because I love that original's producer, the original producer's idea of just like having an apartment, like in the middle of a construction zone and whatever whatever her big ideas were. And Wendy's like, yeah, I defy her because she gave me a contract that said she gets 50% of the show. And I said, you're out of here. So she hired these kind of intern, well, I shouldn't say intern, but really young, younger people. She's like, right, how much you charge? $5? You hired. So they're doing that. We also find out in this scene that Eddie is coming home at 2am every day. I don't know if he's coming home at 2am. I think he's just not getting into bed until 2am.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I mean, I wrote he's been coming home at 2am, but I don't know. I mean, is he out partying? What's Eddie doing? I took it that he was like downstairs working and he's not getting into bed until two. Oh, okay. It could be that he's staying out. I'm not sure. I mean, look, Wendy's, Wendy's YouTube show, I think we said earlier in the season, this is actually a really good fit for her. I just think that like the storyline of her having to
Starting point is 00:58:41 gather producers and interns to put on a YouTube show is just like not that inherently fascinating. You know what I need an update on? You gathering wicks. That's what I need. Are we just going to pretend that never happened? Are we not going to talk about the wicks anymore? That was a huge deal in my life personally. I need more of that. Yeah. But he also made a cheers at the beginning of this dinner where he's like, well, cheers to us both having our own life or something.
Starting point is 00:59:07 And I was like, what? This couple is so odd to me. But very well-dressed. I love their fashion style. And I love that they always seem like they're having fun. More of a- Yeah, I love them together. I'm a little worried that we're sort of like hitting
Starting point is 00:59:23 the end of the road for Wendy, which makes me sad because I've always really enjoyed her, but I think that I'm a little worried that we've, we were, we're sort of like hitting the end of the road with for Wendy, which makes me sad cause I've always really enjoyed her, but I think that I'm, I'm worried. I'm worried that there's not much left for her. I feel like we're sort of scraping the bottom of the barrel now with her story lines. Yeah. So Giselle and Ray have their day night. We already talked about that.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Okay. So now Karen is not Giselle and Ray. Sorry, that was wrong. Oh, that would have been an interesting plot. Yes, Karen and Ray. But then there's very dramatic music because Karen is texting the girls, her chosen few that she pulled out of a fake cat
Starting point is 00:59:57 and she's seeing who's gonna come and Giselle refuses. She's like, no, thank you, but thank you for the offer. Well, because it's Candice, it's Candice, it's Wendy. Is it Ashley and Giselle? Are the selections? And so everyone says yes, except for Giselle, because Giselle's like, I am not going to Karen's farm with Candice. I will not be in a spender van with Candice. She actually says it's dangerous that it would be very dangerous for her to be around Candice and Wendy. So there's Giselle using her.
Starting point is 01:00:29 A little bit of an alarmist, I would say. Yeah. Uh, so that's the first try. So then, um, Giselle and Cherise go over to hang out at Nneka's house. I'm like, well, this is what you get for refusing to be around the cast. Okay. You get a NECA and Shari Sen Jezal. I've done with that. Yeah. And basically, Karen, since Karen couldn't get Jezal to come, you know, because Karen wants to have a big fight at her farmhouse, she's like, well, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I'll just invite everyone now. So now she's like, oh, yeah, great news. I got the, I got my liability insurance increase at the last second. Yes, turns out that state farm has a 24 hour hotline for increasing liability insurance on farmhouses. So got that taken care of in the middle of the night. And now you all can come. Yeah. So now Robin's like, no, sorry. Last minute I can't go.
Starting point is 01:01:20 And she just writes back, cool, Robin, cool, cool, cool, Robin. Yeah, I already committed to spending cool, cool Robin. Yeah. I already committed to spending the day not going to therapy. And, um, NECA of course is like, she's like, I want to go. Basically she's like, yeah, I, you know, everyone's like kind of disrespected by the fact that there's like, oh, oh, so, oh, we get to be like sloppy seconds, like Mia's like, oh, I can't get past the whole thing. And like the original, original invite and everyone's acting like they're like offended that they were.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And Karen wrote, oh, Mia, you need to. That was her response. But Neco's like, shit, I'm a newbie here. I really got to go to this. So she's like, okay. Oh yeah. And also it's a group scene, guys. You're on an ensemble show.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You have to go do these. So you don't get to just decide every episode. That's the group scene, guys. You're on an ensemble show. You have to go do these. You don't get to just decide every episode. That's the problem with your season. We say it every week, so we don't need to pound it into the ground now. But geez, guys, you're on a TV show together. Yeah, exactly. So it winds up being NECA, Candice, Wendy, Ashley and Karen going to Surrey County. And so it's boring.
Starting point is 01:02:27 They get, that's the, that's the, just a minute. They get on to this bus to go. It's really lame and they go get gas station margaritas and when he starts giggling a lot, that was pretty much the big, the big thing in this. But then they get to the place and Karen makes them do yard work, which is super weird. And then we actually have to watch a big goofy scene of them wackily doing yard work.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And I just felt for the, for the people on the show. Cause I was like, you know, Wendy and Candice hate these bitches too, but they show up, they show up and they do it, you know? They can't, yeah. And Candice and Ashley too. Um, but yeah, this is the, you said Wendy and Candice, Ashley too. But yeah, this is the man. You said Wendy and Candice. You know what? I see that's what you meant.
Starting point is 01:03:11 But either way, you're right. People show up, but it's like, as a result, we're watching like, it's supposed to be a scene of them fixing up the estate. That's going to be sort of like a nice, nice thing. But we're just literally watching them rake weeds out from under a tree. And then like someone pretends that there's a snake and then Wendy freaks out and you're like, it's like what you said earlier, we're just watching them do yard work. Like it's weird.
Starting point is 01:03:35 This way to do yard work. It's weird. Like nobody there was like, you know, the season is really lagging. Let's go no place and watch them do yard work for nothing. Yeah. So what? Okay. So then they all sit down and have some wine and they bring up this Wendy fight, this Wendy and Nekka thing about the mom being a, I mean, come on, is it really this deep? I can't believe they're still talking. This shit was funny when it first came up because we'd never really had a,
Starting point is 01:04:03 your mother is a witch accusation or accusations of the mother calling cousins and having people go through people to, you know, say that I'll put it, I'll put a, I'll put your name into a fucking shrine or whatever. And, uh, that was kind of fun for five minutes. It's over and it's no longer fun. And they're not going to make up over it, but Nneka has decided that she's going to have her first big event be an unpacking party where she's going to invite the ladies over to her home to unpack for her.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Fuck you. Okay. I know who does that. Uh, and she does invite Wendy, but wow, you're going to invite Wendy over to do more manual labor. Like we're already doing Karen's gardening. What the hell are we just all having a honey do list that we have to do for each other now? I think so. And yeah, so they're trying to like get Wendy and Nekka to bury the hatchet. But Wendy's like, first of all, you called
Starting point is 01:04:57 me a bitch. And Nekka's like, yeah, I don't deny that. I definitely called you a bitch. But that's because you cursed at me first. You can't curse at someone I expect them not to react It's like and then you called my mother a witch and you said I talked about this about your sister or whatever and the point is They just go back into the same mode that they were in before and and now Wendy's whole thing is like oh I don't is Wendy having an event too that she's inviting people to I think Wendy's having I think they're both are having an invite right because? Cause Nekka invites them all and Wendy's like, I don't remember, but like either way. Wendy gives a speech where she's like,
Starting point is 01:05:31 I'm not gonna. I refuse to be around someone who is fundamentally unimportant in my life. It's like, okay, wow. That's my happiness. And she's like, and then she's like, I'm not going to suddenly go to her event because there's like steps that have been like the way that we get back on track. There's like steps that have been skipped. You can't go. She's like, you can't go from step a to point z. I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:00 I was like, first of all, I was offended that you went from step to point in the same sentence. That was like very larse of you, but whatever. But she's now saying like, no of all, I was offended that you went from step to point in the same sentence. That was like very larse of you, but whatever. But she's now saying like, no, no, no, like you we just can't do that. Like there's steps that have to be taken and I'm not going to go. And it's we're supposed to be concerned about whether or not Wendy is going to be helping Nekka unpack stuff at her house. Like no one cares. And guess who else doesn't care?
Starting point is 01:06:27 The cast. I mean, the cast was so bored in the scene having to watch this tired fight, having to watch Wendy's preplanned monologue about, well, I refuse to be around like doing one of her like terrible reads that she's practiced 20 times before she got there and still kind of bungles No one cares. No one's really invested in NECA. NECA hasn't been able to really do much like Okay, your journey of eggs or whatever like seeing it been there It's just not great the audience is bored the people on the show are bored and then you've got You've got the cast refusing to film with each other
Starting point is 01:07:03 Wendy gives a big speech about how she's not going to film with Nekka. And then Giselle and Robin refusing to shoot. You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot. Stop it. Make a fucking effort over there. Yeah, because this is really an elite. We say this every week, but I would just want to reiterate. This is an elite cast.
Starting point is 01:07:22 This is like an all-star cast for the Real Housewives. This show should be like our number one or number two every single time it comes out. And it really has been and for it to be like this rough right now and that like everyone agrees like everyone agrees on on the internet and it's like it doesn't matter what everyone thinks it just matters what we think, but in this case, you know, we're all kind of like, fix this, fix this, fix it Jesus. So anyway, it's still fun to check in on.
Starting point is 01:07:56 But- Well, there's good news in the world. Well, they fired the producer. We've already talked about that, right? Both Atlanta, Eric. Eric Fuller. So that's, that was good news. And then the other news that was just released was that not only did they fire him, but yesterday it was going around, looking to see if this is true. Yesterday it was going around that Nini and Portia are coming back
Starting point is 01:08:21 to Atlanta. But now that I look at it, I'm not seeing anywhere. So maybe this is fake news. They're just literally on a flight to Atlanta. They're not actually coming back to the show. They're just going to the city. I swear to you, I read that yesterday. Where did I read it? I thought it was like a people magazine thing, but people are always fucking around on the internet and guess who's very easily tricked.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Me, I believe everything I read. People magazine thing, but people are always fucking around on the internet and guess who's very easily tricked me. I believe everything I read. Well, you know what? We're going to put a to be continued on that one. And I'm sure if we get more solid news about that, we'll talk about it, uh, a week from today on crappy hour. Well, this was a screenshot. It says people.com entertainment TV, Nini Leese and Portia Gubadi. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:03 How do you pronounce her last name? That's one I don't know. I feel like I've never really heard it. I've only read it. Leakes and Portia Guobadia. Here's how I pronounce her. And here's how I pronounce her last name. You know, Portia as in so Portia, you know, Portia.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Anyway, that's how I skip over her last name. I just say, you know Portia again like obviously there's only one Portia So I don't even have to say her last name everyone Well, I just googled that exact headline and it did not come up. So I think that was false everybody I'm sorry, and I'm glad I googled this time It's almost like our brains are fried because we've been recording for over two hours. So on that note, everyone, thank you all for listening, as always. We appreciate you so much,
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