Watch What Crappens - #2329 Crappy Hour Live: Housewife and the Hustler 2, Larsa and Marcus, Porsha Returns, Bethenny Wars With Plastic Bags

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

On this week’s Crappy Hour Live, we discuss Larsa and Marcus’ PR breakup stunt, Erika Jayne’s Hulu documentary, breaking up with a real housewife, and Bethenny’s war against Ziplock��plus all the latest news on @bravotv. We’re live every other Monday at 5:30 PM on Instagram Live and our YouTube Channel @watchwhatcrappens To watch the video version of this recap and for this week’s Summer House bonus episode, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. And grab tickets for the Netflix is a Joke Fest in LA and our European tour at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From Wondery and Audible comes Class of 88, a new podcast hosted by Will Smith. Before 1988, a lot of people didn't take hip-hop seriously, but hip-hop today touches everything from film to fashion to sports. So what changed? Follow Class of 88 wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Crarapi Hour Live. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.

Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Good. This is our bi-weekly chat about shit that happens on Brava. What do you think about that, Ben? I think it's great. I'm very excited about it. I love Krapi Hour.

It's nice to be back. Nice to be back. We had a long, a big long weekend, so it's nice to have like a little bit of a, you know, like a, what are you, that's not a calm down, but it's like a day new month, right? It was sort of like a post, a post show here after the crappies. Yeah, we had a super fun time.

I think I'm thinning out my skin too much with all those face product I'm putting on it, because see this red on my nose? Do you see it Ben, the red dot? Is it leprosy? Yeah, my nose is falling off. This is from pulling my shirt on every day, my T-shirt on.

It's now scraping my nose. This is where it hits my nose and I'm scraping it. I think that's how sensitive my skin is getting. So you know what? There is such thing as too much threatening. That's my advice to start everybody off. Calm down on the trackRET, okay? Everybody calm down on the TRET.

TRET carefully with Trent and Owen. That should be their new slogan. Trent and Owen. Trent and Owen. By the way, over on YouTube, Essie says, hey guys, you're amazing on Saturday. Thank you very, very much. You guys, it wasn't, you guys were amazing.

Everyone who was in the audience and everyone who tuned in online Saturday. Thank you very, very much. You guys, it wasn't, you guys were amazing. Everyone who was in the audience and everyone who tuned in online and you know, to get the best, one of my favorite things is after everything is said and done, you know, we went out to a bar afterwards, we partied and then I went out and got late night Korean food. I got back to my home around 3 30 in the morning, you know, and then I got into bed and I'd like opened up my phone and to see all the really kind words that everyone was saying, all the really sweet words, all the beautiful things that everyone posted

on social media and all the amazing photos. It really is like, it's really great. It's so cheesy, cause we do put so much work into it, but it really does make it all worth it. Like it's just, it feels great. Yes, that was a very good time. Okay, so what's going on in the Bravo world, bam? What's going on in the Bravo world?

What do you wanna talk about? Well, I was just, okay, you go. No, go ahead. You answer the question. I thought I got you off guard. Sorry. No, I was here to say that I was just watching the housewife and the hustler part two right before this and I thought you'd be very proud of me That I was yeah, I am proud of you. How far did you get through it? I?

Got most of the way through it. I had to have I had like a little call in the middle of it Which delayed me I was gonna finish it right on time, but I got through the part where Erica the Marco Marco part where They were like, I did not realize when you had told me that Erica wore a wire and was like part of like, oh, ruining some designer's life. I thought it was like some random person on like Etsy.

I didn't realize it was Marco Marco. I mean, Marco Marco is like established and famous. They're like, they're noteworthy. I was shocked. I was shocked when they they're noteworthy. I was shocked Yeah, I was shocked when they first showed up on the documentary I was like, oh, I love a messy gay who's gonna come and talk shit about like Erica I didn't realize it was not a messy gay situation that it was like like these this was these were the victims It was it actually kind of rattled me. I thought it was a really terrible story

Like it's just such a such an awful thing to do to what seemed like two very nice people. Yeah, that was really, really not good. And it kind of explains her sharp turn in the costume department. Yes, very bad. And also like, I mean, there's still like, still a large part of me believes that still this was really mainly Tom Gerardi who was like, need my money back and I do this thing. Erica, you have to do this for me. I do believe that she was definitely bossing her around, but that being said, if even if that were the case, I really don't like that she would use the,

the wire in a federal crime case as like a silly answer to two truths and a lie. So like even if you are bragging about it, like, oh, so fun. Yeah, I was a, I used to wire in a federal fraud case. Yeah, like if you're like... Hello, girls, hello, bitch. Yeah, like if it were a situation where she was like, you know, I had to turn on my friends because this is the sort of person I lived with.

And I had to do this. And, and, you know, I was, I was led to believe that they had defrauded us. And that I thought I was one being betrayed. If she had, if she had come like that, you know, it's like, okay, I have, I have sympathy, but the fact that she's like, well, here's a fun story. I once wore a wire in a case, a case where you like nearly threw someone that was a friend of yours, someone who you, a collaborator you like nearly threw someone that was a friend of yours, someone who you a collaborator, someone who was like, by all accounts,

seems like a nice person in jail and like potentially destroy his company. I was like, that was really bad. For those of you who don't know what we're talking about, basically there's this sequel to that documentary. And one of the things that they revealed is that Erica was using this famous costume designer to do all of her stuff and when she walked in there she said money is not an object we won't be needing invoices or whatever so he's just she's asking for all this expensive shit he's making her $10,000 costumes for all of her stuff it was over a million

dollars you know millions and millions of dollars worth of stuff and then Erica and Tom ran out of money and because they couldn't pay, they accused this guy of fraud and said that he was overcharging them all of this stuff. They come take this guy, put him, take him to jail, like ruin his life. He was about to adopt a child.

The chances for that were ruined. They ruined his company. They ruined this guy's life because they couldn't pay their fucking bills. And then the charges were dropped and it turns out that Tom was friends with the Secret Service who led this arrest and investigation and everything else.

It's really, it's really, really bad. So for Erica to just show up bragging about it and laughing about it, I mean. It's wild. I had a former- Are you impressed with how quickly I did that, man? You're welcome. Very impressed. I had a roommate who you know, Ronnie, but I won't say who it is, who used to work for a powerful person here in LA. So very, very wealthy

person, but the person was Meshugoguna and he came to believe that all his employees had stolen from him and he sued them all. And so my roommate was basically stuck in litigation for several years dealing with it. And I think I was younger, it was like, you know, it was like 15, 18 years ago. So I was like, oh, you know, it'll work out because I know he didn't steal anything. This is like the most ridiculous suit. But like watching Marco, Marco, I really kind of reflected on how hard that actually really must have been for my roommate.

And like that is so scary when you have like these really powerful people who are abusing their power for some, either like paranoia or in this case, in the case of Tom Gerardiardy financial gain and then Innocent people who don't have a lot of power who are just trying to like make their way in the world wind up You know getting ground down because of it. It's really terrible I really just the whole thing made me really think about my roommate and made me reflect on how I don't think I really Appreciate it at the time how difficult it was for him. Do you see?

There's the real message. I learned. This really hurt Ben's roommate at the end of the day. Guys made me realize my roommate really went through it. But it's true. I mean, they were all, it's like these people, like these people who have a lot of money and power, they just, you know, they don't care who is you know who's whose businesses whose career paths whose families get messed up you know because they just you

know they want their money or you know they're out of money yeah don't trust rich people okay yeah don't trust poor people either don't trust people there you go hugs everybody don't trust people I think is a great takeaway that's always been my lesson guys. Trust no one. Hugs. Oh. No one. Those are gonna be my wedding vows. I vow nothing and I trust you not. Let's get married anyway. Let's do it and hope you die first with more money.

Okay, so there was a rumor that Cynthia got married over Valentine's Day weekend or Valentine's Day but it was probably an ad for something. What do you think? Cynthia getting married. I don't, who, huh. Okay, here's the headline. Real Housewives of Atlanta, Cynthia Bailey, Shox fans with Valentine's Day wedding video every day.

I love you more. And it's a music video of her putting on wedding dress, getting it zipped up, putting on a wedding ring, wedding shoes, and you know, fade out, fade into her, taking deep breaths as she sits and gets ready for her wedding. I guarantee you she did not get married.

With the amount of time. I mean, we see a bald guy, the back of a bald guy's head as he slowly sips some, some scotch or something, and then we never see his face. No, no. Here's the thing. With the amount of time that Cynthia spoke to us about 50 synth and chill, she can't keep her mouth shut about if she was in a relationship. There's no way she's having a discreet relationship and not broadcasting it to the mountaintops. I'm coming up with an acronym, okay? That was a trick question, you're correct.

It was an ad for a bridal shop. There it is. Yeah. Let's see what else. It's not a whole, I think the big news that was circulating, oh, Heather Gay, yes. Okay, well Heather Gay, people asking Oh Heather gay. Yes. Okay. Well Heather gay People asking why Heather gay and followed us first of all you guys

Are we housewives that you're checking up on who's following us and who's not following us? That's crazy Makes me feel very important. I know we've got really good. We started getting questions about that And we thought it was one probably that anybody gives a crap that Heather Gaye unfollowed us. But yes, it is true. Heather Gaye did get pissed off at us and she did unfollow us because her skin is as light as it seems to be on television.

And she got very upset that we invited Monica, well, we did not invite Monica, but we nominated Monica for some crappy awards and that set Heather off because Monica is like a real criminal and I tried to explain to her, I mean first of all like I'm not going to change my show for you, like you're nice and everything but we're still going to do a show about Bravo whether you're here or not. Okay lady, like I have been doing this show before you were on Bravo

and I will be doing this show after you are gone from Bravo and you're not gonna tell me what to do, okay? And Monica is an asshole but she was a very popular, hilarious asshole who gave you guys a very good season. So back off. Let me tell you something. For us to not nominate Monica as best newbie

Would be such an insincere bullshit Okay, I love I love Heather gay But if she's upset at us and she's mad at us because we nominated someone who was such an impactful new Bravo person Like you can't make us feel bad about doing that. It's a TV show. Are you gonna now not follow the LA Times that wrote a profile about it?

Are you now gonna not follow Variety that wrote a profile about Monica? But suddenly we'd nominate in a gag award show, which by the way, we are no longer a gag award show because now that we have people unfollowing us because of who we nominate means that our awards now means something. So thank you.

Get the fuck out of here, lady. I even bought your book twice and listened to your ass for six hours in a row, so go away, all right? And yeah, someone just said in the comment, keep your energy for Jen, okay? So whatever. Listen, I always really liked Heather. I thought she was really nice.

I think Heather probably does not love the fact that we don't just kiss or ask completely, did not completely buy everything she was hurling at people during that finale. I certainly didn't. And you know what? That's just how it is. And that's why I can't make friends in that world, because I'm going to still show up to work and talk shit. That's what I do. And if you do something stupid on TV or something that I think is bullshit, I'm going to say it. That is literally what I do. I'm not here for you. I'm here for Ben and the listeners. So piss off

All right, and when you're ready to go back to place in poker in Vegas, give me a call But my advice until then is get the fuck over it. Okay, cuz I'm still gonna be here tomorrow. Yeah, I mean look I Feel like she will get over it. She will follow us again. You know, she's she's in her feelings about it And you know what by the way, Monica is a fucking asshole and she's a disaster. But we have to be first and foremost, we have to be authentic to ourselves and our podcast and our fricking awards show. And we have to do that before we are. This is a very serious award.

How dare you come for the crack. Well, no, honestly, could you imagine if we're like, Oh, wow, you're right. Like she, she is, she is a criminal and we shouldn't, honest, could you imagine if we're like, oh wow, you're right, like she is a criminal and we shouldn't, she should be disqualified. Hell no, we have a sandwich, by the way, we nominated a sandwich in a category, okay? Povet lost, Povet and his sandwich split their votes, okay? So here's Heather saying that we're elevating Monica

by giving her nominations on our show. Well guess what? Monica is just as good as a Bon Me sandwich right now. So congratulations. Okay. I like you Heather, but let's come on. Let's bring it back in. Yeah, you know, just general advice and also to us, this is anyone involved with Bravo

in any way or podcast or entertainment in general. But I think especially the house general, but I think especially the housewives, but I will take my own advice. Don't get too far up your ass and don't take your too self seriously. This is all fucking stupid and you're part of a giant cartoon. So get the fuck over yourself, okay?

Please. Okay, so let's- By the way, I just wanna say also, someone who did get it and was super cool, honestly, Sheena. Sheena was great. She came in, she was down for everything. She was on that stage, she was hilarious.

She came in with ideas of how to even up what we were gonna do with her. And not only that, she stayed until the very, like we came off stage at the end of the show and she was there ready to still hang out. Like she did not be like, I'm gonna do my thing at the end of the show and she was there ready to still hang out like she did not be like I'm gonna do my thing at the top of the show and peace out. She was down I have to say I I really you know what our little shishu our little shishu I was I was really impressed to um you know we know that shishu is nice like we've met her before and she's always been really

nice but I think being friends with Ariana and stuff, Ariana is a listener. She listens, she like actually listens to it and so I think she tells people listen to it and then they listen to it and then we're being mean to them or whatever and she chooses a sweet innocent soul in a lot of ways and I think that she's sensitive and I she probably listened to it and thought we were gonna be mean to her or whatever and she came despite that. And we could tell she was a little scared before she came. Just before the show stuff,

we could tell she was a little nervous. But she came and she did a great job and she was a really good sport. You know, who else did not come, but she couldn't because they were shooting. But also Heather opens up the door for people like Angie. Who is a good sport? And sent in a whole video mocking herself

and her whole I am Greek stuff. Yeah. And so, you know, people, you know. You know, people up on that pedestal. Yeah, exactly. We really appreciate people who get the joke, who understand what it is.

This is all a big fan celebration because you know what, we're all fans of Bravo. We watch these shows and you like, like I understand why I had there would be like fuck Monica like for sure but like you also have to understand why we watch these shows and be like oh my god like wow Monica what a great addition to that season it's like that was what a wild ride we went on you can't deny us as fans our reactions to watching your cartoon.

Right what are we not gonna nominate Glen Close for Fatal Attraction? I mean, sure she was crazy. That was the point. Yeah, I like bunnies, but we also have to nominate Glen Close, okay? Right, you don't get mad at a chef for cooking a bunny. Why would you get mad at Glen Close?

Why is it only okay for some people? Listen, Heather will settle down. She will settle down and she will come back. But will I? But for right now. Will I settle down. She will settle down and she will she will she will come back. But will I for right now? Will I settle down? That's the thing. I don't know. I don't know. We're going to maybe we'll maybe you and Heather need to have a sit down

in an ice maze, right? And put sausages over flames like some sort of strange fire pit. And then maybe maybe there can be peace. No, I take my own advice. I don't take this shit too seriously. I know it's so stupid. So that's why I'm always shocked when I meet people in Bravo who take it seriously.

Because it seems like they would know better than anybody that this is a giant cartoon, you know what I mean? Yeah. But people don't. Okay, so let's see what else is happening. Shishu bought a house that was in the news. She bought a farm house. She bought a modern farm house.

Farm house is showing up. I'll tell you. Oh, also those Blink 187 dudes or whatever were there. is happening. Shishu bought a house that was in the news. She bought a farmhouse. She bought a modern farmhouse. Oh, also those Blink 187 dudes or whatever were there. We saw, we saw one of those guys. No, the 20, the 27, the Blink. The 27s. Yeah. That's who she did the, the good as gold remix with, which she's like, I think Shishu is releasing more music very soon. She was telling us and we were going to be like, oh yeah, we're going to ask you about that on stage. Then we didn't.

So, you know, keep an ear out, an eye on an ear out for Shishu's music. I mean, I'm sure she'll post it everywhere. So yeah. So that was in some news. The big news that was happening was Larza and Marcus's PR break up stunt where they broke up with each other. They unfollowed each other on the Super Bowl. Did we, we didn't talk about that on Crappy Hour, right?

When did we talk about that? No, the, no, the, the breakup happened like a week ago, cause I know I had the, the in-memoriam for the Crappies already and then I was like, oh my God, it is my duty and obligation to make sure that Larson and Marcus are included in the in-memoriam, even though I knew it was, by the way, it was totally fake. And I knew it's just a the way, it was totally fake.

And I knew it's just a publicity stunt. Like there could be no one else who would be more publicity stuntish. But yeah, it happened during the Super Bowl. We talked about it on the show. We said, of course, these two dumb-dumbs. No, did we talk about this show? I don't know where we talked about it. It wasn't on Crappy Hour.

But of course, Larissa tried to upstage the Super Bowl by announcing her, cryptically, her separation from Marcus during the game Yes, and you know, we didn't really believe it I just posted a picture with his dad and people are like, oh my god, this means it's real That means it's really real when you're bringing MJ into it, but then they Started following each other again, and then they were seen at a jewelry shop together buying, buying a ring, ring shopping, which is, I mean, wow, that's like stealing from Kyle. Cause Kyle, it wasn't Kyle just doing the whole like, I'm ring shopping with Morgan

Wade. Yeah. That is, that is definitely very Kyle. And I, I believe that the breaking news from today is that they were roasted by a comedian to their face, right? They like went to some, it looked like there was like a comedian on like the beach or something and they were walking, I don't know if they were walking by

or whatever, but the comedian was like, oh, that's like like Blursa Pippin. Wow, she fucked up both Scotty Pippin and Michael Jordan. That's some town. So he said something like that to her and she probably was like, I don't get it. Like, like why people would be mean to me like I'm just like in love like I don't try to even say his name like yeah like I like no I like new Kardashians one time so that's like really mean like it's time for a

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There was a post of Morgan, so everybody thought Morgan and Kyle broke up because they unfollowed or they didn't unfollow each other, but they erased each other's pictures from their Instagram spend. It was a huge thing. And everyone's like, Oh my God, is Kyle okay with Morgan? Is Morgan okay with Kyle? But then on Valentine's Day, they took a picture with Kesha, a patcher with Kesha. And Kesha was holding up a cardboard sign that said, freedom, I've been waiting for you or something like that. So people were like, oh my God,

Kyle's getting a divorce from Mauricio. But of course it was about Kesha. But if a Bravo star posts with like Alexander Graham Bell, people would be like, oh my god, did Kyle invent the light bulb? No Everything may they always make it about the Bravo star. No, I think it was about Kesha finding freedom You know because she was like with that guy who like Cultified her or did whatever to her Dr. Luke Which was so weird because then she was part of that singing competition where it was like trying to bring down a wall. Like you had to break down the wall because like people were like gonna get stuck behind the wall or some shit. I don't know it was like some singing competition.

I want to see that my my friend Trisha worked on it. It was really weird. I totally forgot about that. That was like after The Voice when everyone was trying to do strange like music competitions that involved props because The Voice had chairs that would swivel. They're like, how about a wall? They're like, how about a bulldozer that just bulldozes you off the stage if you're bad? I've got a new singing competition where if the judge likes you, Adele's gonna slip and slide right past you. Okay, everybody? Wait to see if he gets splashed by Adele passing by. I mean, they continue to do this.

I mean, the mass singer, I mean, that's literally like people dressed in crazy costumes and they have to sing songs. People like Tom Sandoval and the others. Rising Star on ABC. Okay, well, Arteana is yawning and someone else said, focus you guys, Simon. Okay, so Simon is, God, we should have you guys during the show, seriously. They Simon is, God, we should have you guys during the show. Seriously.

They're like, focus you idiots. Okay. So Simon, this is Portia Simon. All this stuff came out this week. Now, of course, for those of you who don't know, Portia has announced that she is coming back to Real Housewives of Atlanta. And actually, I announced it two weeks ago here on Cropierre Live that Portia and Nini were both returning. But then I announced it two weeks ago here on crappier alive that Porsche and Nini were both returning But then I took it back because I couldn't find proof whatever I had read that day had been erased So does that mean that needy's coming later? I don't know she said today's not first okay today It was like not but you never know so I got half of it right at least from whoever stole that from that day or ever I read it off of so anyway Porsche is coming back and almost immediately they posted that her

husband is a scammer. He's been deported a bunch of times. He's got bank fraud and all this stuff. He keeps returning with fake names and all of this stuff. Um, A, not shocked because just anyone who's that rich and you can't really explain to me why I feel like rich people, like truly rich people love explaining why they're that rich you know I was poor my dad had nothing and then I invented a button you know and it's like then you they don't shut the fuck up about a button for five

hours that's how rich people are but Simon it always seemed kind of fishy every time they tried to explain it and so you know it's like pk and to eat just constantly waiting just waiting to see when they're gonna go to jail. So what do you think? Did you hear about any of this stuff with Simon? No, the only thing I'd seen was that Portia was coming back. I saw her video where she was like, people are saying that Portia Williams is coming back and that's not true. But Portia, goodbye to Boobada. She's in the house. So I was like, I saw that. I didn't know that. I didn't know. I love, I love that. I will never get sick of that. No, I'm like, I'm, I'm actually, I was like looking here to see if I could find the information

real quickly to download because I did not. I mean, by the way, am I shocked? Am I shocked? No. Am I, am I surprised? No. I mean, of course this guy is like shady. Let's not overlook this entire engagement and marriage and everything. Like everything has been shady about it to me. So not surprised whatsoever. Do you think they're gonna bring Phalan back? Come on, you guys, you have to bring Phalan back.

They should. I feel like they actually dropped the ball like that like as they The fact that the producers missed that entire love triangle entirely it speaks to a failure of Atlanta the past few seasons to be honest Okay. Well, let me just say this is from a site called baller alert And the headline is, Portia Williams' husband, Simon Gabbardia, faces citizenship hurdles amid criminal history

and immigration controversy. In his significant legal development, the US DC for the Northern District of Georgia at Lana Division has dismissed the case of Simon against the US Citizenship and Immigration Services, blah, blah, blah. Simon, Nigerian citizen, has navigated a tumultuous journey. Credit card fraud got him deported in 1992, tried to get temporary resident status

under a false identity, thereby concealing his criminal history. Fine, this is fine. Yes, makes sense. Well, this is called Atlanta making an effort. So congrats. One hopes, one hopes. I'll tell you who's making an effort right now.

Making an effort to stay relevant by shooting her shot with one of the hottest celebrities out there right now, Bethany Frankel. Bethany Frankel is like, how do I get involved in Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift? I know, I go after the mother and I go after Ziploc bags. That's what I do. So here she is, she has had a social media rant where she was upset that Mama Kelsey, Donna,

Donna Kelsey got an endorsement with Ziploc bags and Bethany did not. I can't imagine why. I can't imagine why the mother of two currently beloved American football playing celebrities were attached, one of whom is attached to the biggest star on the planet at the moment. I can't imagine why she would get endorsement why someone as warm and lovable and Relatable as Bethany Frankel isn't I don't understand this world and the lack of justice in it. I know I can't believe that No one else sees Bethany as being as famous as Travis Kelsey Bethany Bethany does the fact that Ronnie knows who Travis Kelsey is, a football player, that's significant, okay? And Bethany is trying to be like,

but what about me? What about me? So she says, she said this in a video, she goes, I wanna know why Travis Kelsey's mom is being paid for pictures with Ziploc bags coming out of the purse, okay? Okay, because guess what? Guess what?

I was documented at the Real Housewives of New York with my bathing suit stored in Ziploc bags and there never was a bag, a Ziploc bag from me at all times actually. Look, I got one right here. I got one right here. I got one right here. Here's Ziploc bag.

Ziploc bag. Look, I got Ziploc bag. It's got some lip stuff in it. That's what I do. I've got Ziploc bags, you know? They're always traveling with me. Always, they're never not there. Never not there.

Where is it? Not there. You know it? Not there. You know what? I call, you know, I call my Ziploc bags little Jills errands, cause they're just always there. Everywhere I look, there's Jills errand. There's a Jills errand, but in this case, carry my toiletries, my socks, my, my air.

Sometimes I just put air in a Ziploc. I'm like this way I have air. This way I'm ready. If I go to France, I don't like the way the air smells in France. I'm like this air sucks in France. I'm gonna have some American air. And I just breathe it from my Ziploc. I bring Cheetah air wherever I go. You know, in case I don't like the way the air smells in France. I'm like, that's air sucks in France. I'm gonna have some American air. And I just breath it from my Ziploc.

I bring Cheetah air wherever I go. You know, in case I don't like the local air. I've got Cheetah air. All right, it's better. It's from America, so that's why. Yeah, Bethany, you know, and the thing is Bethany's kidding, but is she, that's what you never really know about.

That's the thing. She's like, look, look, it's a joke, it's a joke. But she's really like sending warning shots to Ziploc. I mean, you just never know what's meant for me. I mean, the truth is there is still an article that has been written about it, which means that chances are she probably had her publicist reach out to, in this case, I'm gonna get off of parade.

It went to enough places. We're just like, yeah, let everyone know. Let everyone know. I don't have a Ziploc deal. I don't have a Ziploc deal. I want a Ziploc deal. So she's joking, but she's not joking. She's not joking. Yeah.

Um, well, maybe she'll make a podcast about it. Cause I noticed what they're doing is they're giving all of these Bravo labs, pro like podcast platforms now. Cause Bethany has like her whole network. Cause of course they probably gave her $90 million to do these podcasts on I heart or wherever she does. I think she's iHeart, right? But she probably got a huge deal.

And she has her umbrella now, like she gave Rachel a podcast where Rachel literally comes on there every week to talk about the one season that she was on, like an important, I know she was on more seasons, but the one season that she did anything of note on Vanderpump rules How many episodes is that gonna be Rachel really? Yeah, see this is what I don't understand

Okay, and so admittedly I don't listen to Rachel's podcast. I'm so sorry everyone I'm sorry Recaps what why listen when you can read it on Vanderboud Vanderpoud recaps on Instagram ding go ahead Ben sorry, but but the but from what I gather from things like Vanderpump recaps on Instagram. Ding. Go ahead Ben. Sorry. But but the but from what I gather from things like Vanderpump recaps and Vanderpump recaps and from what you say what everyone says My understanding is that Rachel is spending a lot of time talking about how Tom is a narcissist and all the toxic and harmful things she went through during this relationship And it's every week she's releasing another episode

that's about this. So my question is this, to Bethany Frankel, who is headlining the reality reckoning where people, where she is trying to take down the powers that be that are exploiting poor innocent reality stars. What about you hosting a, what about you producing a podcast where someone has to relive the trauma of the situation week after week after week is also not exploitation.

That's what I would like to know. Because for me, it just seems like the same thing. This is healing. This is healing now. It's healing now. It's healing. It's healing. It's healing like a ziploc. Like a ziploc endorsement will be healing to my soul. And here and I don't I'm I'm struggling whether or not to say it. I'm gonna say it. I mean who am I kidding me to say it? But I don't want to say this because I don't I feel like this season of antipump rules is gonna turn into the Tom Is the real victim here season and I see it happening. I see it happening online. I don't even want to be part of that I will say I think it's hypocritical for Rachel to sit here and say that Tom is a narcissist because he makes everything about himself

And he's the innocent victim when she comes on and makes everything about herself and talks about how she's the innocent victim of literally everything She does what Tom does which is I'm taking responsibility But then she turns around while she's taking responsibility and blames Tom for like manipulating her into doing all of this stuff. And she didn't know she was with a narcissistic person, which she's right. She was with a narcissistic person. Yes. And she and that was right after James. So I could see how you'd have a little bit of like residue there on your psyche. Okay. I'm not denying it. A little bit of residue. But it comes across, it comes across as completely making herself innocent,

just like Tom is doing. It's like a nicer, more palatable version of Tom. And as far as I'm concerned, after seeing reading a lot about that podcast, I think they're made for each other. Really? I mean, they're too like, she's better than Tom, but not much. Okay. I'm not buying it. Yeah, I mean, my feeling is this, okay? And by the way, I'm not on any high horse about Raquel's future or whatever. I'm just on a high horse about Bethany's hypocrisy. And I say this as a hypocrite,

but my high horse is this. I think we all agree that for Rachel, the best thing for her is for her to just sort of like leave the entire situation. Like go back to the dream of helping entire situation. Like go back to the dream of helping special needs kids, go back to the dream of really anything, but get away from like get away from Hollywood, get away from Bravo, get away from reality TV, get away from the reality TV cottage industry. You like you've been you you've you've went through the meat grinder and

everything. And if the issue is, oh my God, I was in this terrible narcissistic relationship and I was taking advantage of it by it, whatever, da, da, da, da, da, da, get away, start a life fresh, you know, start doing yoga, all those things, get away from it. And I feel like the fact that Bethany is like, okay, I'm gonna produce a podcast where you can talk about every week,

is literally just dragging her right back into the muck. It's opening her up to all of us. This crap you are right here, the two of us. Everyone here in the comments is opening up Rachel for all the same negativity to come her way. And I actually don't think that's healthy for her. And I think that Bethany may be saying, oh, this is under the guys of healing,

but it's under the guys of making Bethany money. And so far as much as she talks about the reality reckoning, how about we talk about the Rachel reckoning? How about that? What's a Rachel reckoning? What's a Rachel reckoning? Okay. Rackoning.

Okay. Another couple that's really trying it this week has been Jackson Brittany. Oh, yeah. Trying to spread rumors that they're broken up with Brittany supposedly, FaceTiming from a different house, and Jack's posing with his wedding ring up in the air next while he's posing kind of romantically with his publicist and trying to make that happen. Nobody believes it.

First of all, does anybody believe that Jacks would cheat on Brittany? Of course, every morning. At least a blow drop at the gym every single day. And if anyone was getting a dumpster outside of Republic, it was probably Jacks. We all know that it's probably, it probably Jack's every day with whoever, okay? Thuber driver.

He does not care. He'll stick it in wherever there's a warm hole. We know it. Do we care? No, because guess what? You read the package before you ate the meal. You know what I mean? You read, I saw you in the store reading the ingredients list and you still bought that

frozen dinner. You are stuck with your own groceries, ma'am. I'm not going to feel bad for you when Jack's fucks you over. I don't even care. Can't even believe I'm watching your stupid show. The sign said McDonald's and now you want filet mignon. You knew it. You know what you're walking into.

Yeah, exactly. The entire time. Um, I'm not, I'm not buying it. I feel like this is just Jack's trying to drum up interest in his future failing show. He already, the thing today is that he's saying that like the reunion is going to be so good, they're going to need security.

I'm like, wait, who says anything that there even is a reunion for your show about the Valley? I don't think that's happening anytime soon. Wait, who said their're reunion so good? Jax, Jax, cause I just looked right now cause I wanted to find more information. And Jax, he says, this is his quote, I'm pulling it up right now, okay.

He says, okay, this was three days ago, sorry. He says the Valley reunion will need security cause there's more drama than Vanderpump rules and then look at look at this look at this I'm sorry. He's not even being he's not even trying to be subtle. What is it? What does that say? That's no I'm just saying look at that I'm talking now like Bethany. I'm like look at this. I can't I can't do this look at that look at that look at that guy Well, who is that? What's that? What's happening? What's happening? What's going on? See what I'm saying about too much treten Owen? That's Jack's. I'll bet he hurts his nose when he pulls on a t-shirt. I'm telling you, I can spot it.

Very thin skin. Very, very thin. Yeah. He's turning him, it's just not right. By the way, he also got invited to the Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Premier. What is happening in this world? Why did these people say, okay, so you know what? I'm starting to get, I'm understanding Heather Gay's rage. I'm like, what if these people got a platform? Why? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha There's a couple of weird things going on. So one was they were closed one day. Someone, TikTok user, somebody went by there

and the place was closed. And they said they were closed for a special event. But then it turns out they were closed because there was a protest of the Scientology Celebrity Center, which is as you know, is right across the street. Let's talk about Tom Cruise Mission Impossible. I'm sorry, I want me to finish.

You see, that's what brought me into it. You said Mission Impossible. I was like, oh my God, Scientology. Poor Leo Rimini, the real victim in Scandival. Leo Rimini. So, or Rimini. Is it Rimini or Rimini? So anyway, the guy who owns that place with them

is apparently a big Scientologist. So he closed because people were, I guess, protested, Greg is his name, thank you, somebody in there, Jana. So apparently Greg's a big Scientologist or whatever. Which I asked him, why did you need all that money to open up? Aren't you guys unlimited?

Did you take all your money from the non-paid workers that you steal everything from? Allegedly, leave me alone, Scientology. Seriously, just leave me alone, okay? Aren't you a little surprised that Jack's is not a Scientologist yet? He's probably tried and they probably kicked him down the street to that other weird church.

I know. The first person to be rejected from Scientology. They're like, no, I'm sorry. Most sick. They're like in the wrong address. sorry. They're like, most heck. They like him the wrong address. Oh my goodness. That's wild. I mean, I don't know.

I still don't know how shorts and sandies is going to stand in business. I mean, I feel like at a certain point, like, OK, the curiosity about going there, rubber-necking, is going to ease off. And then I just, I just, I just don't see it as a bar for that neighborhood that's going to thrive. I really don't. Yeah, I just, I just don't see it as a bar for that neighborhood that's gonna thrive. I really don't

Yeah, I think what made the other ones work is that they're all close enough to each other to bar hop to you know what I mean? Like Lisa van der Pomp owned that whole block really she has sir pomp and tom tom where she can just collect your money as you go to each three of the things to try and see celebrities but when the celebrities have to go to the East side, well, it's not the East East side, but comparatively, you know, you still have to get in the cab and, uh, go over there. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. That realm, that realm there, that's by, um, stand upright, uh, citizens brigades. That's like a, that area there is sort of like hipster, but comedy hipster area. And that's just not shorts and sandies. Swartz and sandies needs to just sort of like leech off of sir and so they're just too far away. Yeah people are reminding us that Stasi and Jacks went to Scientology when they first got to LA which is hilarious. I forgot that

but Jacks probably went in and they were like I'm sorry sir we're here to clear your brain and your brain is more clear than anybody else's. So we're actually going to have to ask you to, your, your brain is too clear to be. Mike, by the way, the comments on my Instagram live are not updating. So, um, I'm just stuck. The latest comment has been up there for like 15 minutes saying talk about Jackson, Brittany, uh, separation rumors. So I apologize if I'm ignoring commenters. I just

I can't see you. People are asking to talk about James abuse rumors. Okay, here's the thing there. I have read these rumors James abuse rumors from Vanderpump rules. I'm not really comfortable talking about it yet because I don't know that much about it and that's pretty big. And from what I've read, it's been veiled allegations from Kristen, which she's gonna unveil, I guess, when it's convenient for, you know, a show or something. Like I'm assuming that she's alluding to some kind of show kind of thing. And I don't, I don't know. I don't doubt it.

I mean, James has shown himself to be kind of violent and a drunk And spit on Kristen's door and did all of that stuff So yeah, and then there was the whole Raquel like my note, you know My nose rebroke because James kind of bumped into me or whatever that whole thing. Yeah I mean, there's been a lot of fishy stuff. I don't really have an opinion on it until we hear more from it Yeah, you think because that's well think? Because that's a heavy thing. And like, I will joke about Sipluck Becks. I will joke about Bethany Frankel and her re-

Yeah, we can't joke about someone get abused, you know? Abuse is like when you don't have all the information. The last thing that I want, you know what I don't want to be part of? Is when there is like some documentary that comes out and they're like, everyone was laughing at me and they pull up clips of us being like, oh, what's going on with that abuse?

And we're like, you know those documentaries where they always show content creators just being mean to people and then we're the bullies. Thankfully they never show us. I know. But also, yeah, yeah, I don't mind a lot. We're not gonna talk about that. I have a question.

Can we talk very briefly about some traders stuff because traders is, you know, the best show? Yes. But can I say one thing real quick? Absolutely. Before we do that, people are asking about Southern hospitality. We did watch it. We are going to recap that for this week's bonus on Patreon, not to plug, but just so you know, we are going to be talking about that. We'll probably release it tomorrow but just so you know, we are gonna be talking about that.

We'll probably release it tomorrow at some point. We're gonna talk about it. The plan is to record it tomorrow. Okay. So, I mean, there's not a huge amount of news about the traders, but I know that we're all watching it. We're all loving it. And I did, there was an interview with Dr. Will

in Entertainment Weekly where he basically, he doesn't really say much, which is annoying, but they're kind of like, so what's the deal? Like why are the big brother people so bad at it? And he's basically like, he basically says what you say, Ronnie. He's like, honestly, I think they went on there to show that they still got it,

but they just never had it in the first place. They just were lucky. They all were lucky on their seasons, but he's basically like they're all just shitty game players So I thought you would like that that you felt backed up by that I do because I like to I love dr. Will, you know, I like being backed up by someone like that. Love you. I respect your pastiness I wish I could avoid the sun like you Oh, I just have the honey to hide under like you do? Get my face done. I guess I didn't want much more to say about it.

Oh, the producers are also denying that they intervened to make sure that Peter was saved last week. They're saying that the fire thing was something that was pre-planned and they would not have intervened because the show doesn't need any intervening. Well, no, I don't. and they would not have intervened because the show doesn't need any intervening. Well, no, I don't. But, you know, it's funny that human nature will usually take care of stuff anyway because it's led to a better show, I think, having that, because they may have saved Peter for one week,

but then watching Peter just be such an idiot. I think if they got Peter out last week, Peter would have left kind of a hero in a way, like, oh my God, Peter is such a good person and he never betrayed the faithfuls. He like stayed the whole time and he's so smart. And instead he's there and so we got to marinate in his stupidity and now people are saying what a dumbass he is and he was never smart in the first place and you all were giving him too much credit for the very beginning. So I'm actually happy that he stayed now that we're seeing how it's playing out.

What I have to say, one thing that's really funny about the traders is that we are now at a state where we are actively rooting against the Faithfuls that are playing the game properly. Like, well, he's not, he's really fucking it up. But like every time the Faithfuls start to do well, we get so mad at them, like, fuck them, hate them, they should die. Why are they

doing this? I hate the Faithfuls, I'm with them, the Traders for Life, of course. But it's like in the beginning of the season, you're like, you're almost there, but I think it's because in the beginning of the season, Dan was a Trader and I didn't like Dan as a Trader and I wanted them to find Dan, but now that Fate was in danger, I want all the Faithfuls to mess up. It just keeps, the pendulum swings back and forth. No, I don't want them to find any of the traders. I love the traders. Even when it was Dan, I didn't want them to find the traders. But I mean, I was raised religious, you know what I mean?

So I feel like I'm the trader. I feel like they were always trying to fucking banish my ass. And so now, of course, I'm just projecting. I'm like, I hope that they get our neighbors down the street who first said I was gay to all the moms on the street. Got everybody to hate me. Like I'm making it all about my childhood. It's not about you, Ronnie.

You know? I like that. Well, maybe I'll amend it. How about I amend it to this? Which is that for some reason on this show, they seem to get rid of the people that I want to stick around really early. So I would have liked Larsa to have been around longer

and Tamer, well Tamer got murdered. But like, why couldn't they have had a witch hunt against Peter and Kevin earlier on? They're so generic and boring. Like we don't, and yet we're stuck with them week after week. Whereas interesting people like Janelle, Larsa, peppermint, they're gone. That's not cool. I hate the Faithfuls. Yeah, Faithfuls suck. Okay, everybody,

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