Watch What Crappens - #2353 The Traitors: Fired Up

Episode Date: March 11, 2024

The Traitors finale (S02E111) had us screaming at the TV.  So good but also so frustrating.  Another triumphant season in the can.  Grab tickets for the Netflix is a Joke Fest in LA and our European tour at watchwhatcrappens.com Watch this recap as a video and get our bonus episodes at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Um, it's not really proper today. This is like one person lighting, but that's okay. Oh man. Feels wonderful to be on proper lighting at last. It's not really proper today. This is like one person lighting, but. That's okay. Well, it's better lighting than what I'm normally in because no matter how many lights I put on into my home office, for some reason, I just never have the same sumptuous balance that you have. So now I can live in your studio

because I'm here in Austin, Texas with you side by side Yeah, it's nice to have you here. Yeah, it's really exciting. It's first of all. Thanks for having me No, I I'm spending that I spent the night. Oh shit. What was that? Did a burn did a bird? Talk about omens Was it do you see the bird. It was a bird. Talk about omens. It was a bird. Was it? Do you see the bird? Wait, hold on. I want to see. I want to hold on. I want to look

at the bird. There's a bird on your. Down there. Where is it? Down there. Oh my god. That's about it. Dude. Let me tell you something. That is horrible. What does that mean? Okay, you guys, sorry,

because first of all, that's so fucking unprofessional, but a bird really did just fly into this big picture window and it's dead down there. It's dead on his patio. And yesterday when Ben got here, he's like, there's a dead hummingbird on my, what does this need? Let me tell you something, let me tell you something.

Yesterday morning, I woke up to get my airplane to come here and I went to look at my hummingbird feeder and there was a dead hummingbird on the feeder. I think it was Gil who was like the asshole of the hummingbirds. So I was like, that's okay. Cause he bullies everyone else. And so he got what's coming to him.

Bullies deserve it. Bullies deserve it. But it was like that. I was like, that feels complicated. Don't, don't look up the omen of a dead bird. No, don't curse. No, wait, look it up tomorrow. Don't look it up today.

Don't look it up today. Why? I'll tell you why. Okay, don't read it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't look up the dead, don't look up the dead bird omen. The reason why- It's pretty on the nose.

What it would be right well for someone well for someone who has to fly tomorrow i don't want to find out about like the omens of a dead bird oh god but uh also uh um the the there's a dead hummingbird and then i woke up this morning and found out that my elderly cousin melvinahina, had passed away. So this is a very ominous thing. By the way, breast and peace, Melvina, she was 98. She's 98. You know, she lived a full life. Yeah.

And so we already RIP'd her this morning. Yeah. And then we thought, that's it. That's it. That's the end of the omen. We've discovered what it was. And now another fucking bird just plopped right into the window. Right when we're being joyous together.

This is not okay. I'm not really sure, like, who do you complain to, God? Like just call for customer service? Like what the fuck, bro? Maybe the bird was a Barbie fan. Either way, maybe the bird was distraught about the Alzheimer's. The reason why I am here next to Ronnie experiencing bad omens with him is because we are going to the I Heart podcast awards tonight. We are nominated for Best Pop Culture Podcast.

We're really excited and we hope everyone comes and watches it online. You can watch it on YouTube. They're streaming it on their site. So we'll put the link up. I think I put it up on Instagram over the weekend, but we'll put it up again because we want you to come watch. Put some crystals. We'll feel better right now. Some little crystals on the desk. We're holding up a crystal.

We're holding up a crystal. No, I don't seem like I would be the type, but I am. By the way, it's a big Asper that is now on Ronnie's patio. That's terrible. Do you think Bueller will have to go clean it? No, I'm not going to. Bueller will eat it. That's how dogs are. How do you plan to clean it? I'm going to? No, I'm not gonna, Bueller will eat it. That's how dogs are.

How do you plan to clean it? I'm gonna take a plastic bag like a pickup poop, like a grocery plastic bag, and I'm gonna pick it up and I'm gonna pray for it. I'm gonna go put it in a- I use tongs to get, to take the hummingbird off of the feeder. Or I could just throw it over that fence there

because there's nobody there and then those, but you know, I give so much shit to Olivia on Southern Charm for throwing poop over the fence. I can just throw it over that fence there because there's nobody there and then those but you know I give so much shit to Olivia on Southern Charm for throwing poop over the fence I can't throw a dead person a dead ball but a dead bird it's not a dead person first of all there's so many animals but I don't want the animals eating it and also we might see vultures because you know there's vultures here and they come right in and they'll probably take it well I well maybe that's a better reason for a ball maybe it's a better reason to move this giant bird and it looked like it was like a quail or a do you have quails here?

I don't know. I don't know all the birds all I know is the neighborhood peacock who walks around crying like this Well, that's probably why the bird crashes to the window such a victim that fucking peacock, okay I really can't believe a bird. Like, anyway, welcome to probably our last show before we both die of high blood pressure today in Austin. Welcome. Thank you so much for being here. This is the, you know, I'll tell you who did die. It's good that we got that right before murder.

Cause this is just, it's a traitor's recap. Hate to do that. It's the finale traders recap. Yeah. Dad. Dad. Dad. What a macabre way to start our murder podcast.

They just killed that fucking bird. So here we are, get tickets for our European stint in May. That's gonna be in Lundin, Dublin and Birmingham. So we're doing that. And then also we're doing the Netflix as a joke comedy festival in LA. You don't have to buy comedy festival tickets

just by normal regular tickets. It's at the Cucaburra Lounge in the Highland and Hollywood Center, which is now called the OVATU, right? The Ovation. The Ovation. We're gonna be there in May as well. And also this is a video, if you want this, Patreon videos, Crap In's On Demand.

If you want the videos but do not wanna pay, you can get them the week after for free on YouTube, okay? And we're also doing bonuses over there. We did the Erica Jane special. I know a lot of you are mad that we did that. I'm not watching that without taking notes. I'm not watching something and not, I'm sorry. Okay, I'm sorry.

I know you're mad, whatever. I watched it and I trashed it, so. I know one person who's not mad at us about it, that bird, because it's dead now. That was the birds protest. It heard we did that episode and it killed itself on a window. The bird's like, I want to go complain to them. Oh no, I got killed. I have to say, by the way, a perk of Crappin's On Demand

is that you can actually watch our faces as we react to the sound of a bird hitting the window and then look at it and then scamper away from the live podcast we're doing to look at the dead birds. Seriously. Okay, so here we go. Some traitors episode 11. And the final hair.

Head as. So Kate is left all alone in the castle. She's like, this was harder than I thought. Like first I was like, yay, but now I'm like, gross. So. What a disgusting task I have to do. This is so hard. And so she's in the turret and Alan comes and joins her and she's like,

well, the first thing I want to do is redecorate in here. Obviously it's disgusting. I wish I had some stews to put up some decorations here. And, um, she's like, you know, I mean, favorite brings me to the turret Alan and she has zero plans. Okay. What are your plans? How do you make plans?

You know, you're just killing random people. Now, of course it's easier on hindsight to say you should have just killed the winners, right? But in hindsight, it is easy to say that because the fucking winners were a team and they told everybody they're a team. They were told everybody, I'm never gonna fuck this person over ever. I'm gonna go to the end with this person. Yeah, and that's it. And everybody is like, whatever, and they just let these people go all the way to the end. What the hell? You know what? I actually feel like I'm mad at this bird for dying right now because I feel like it fully distracted

me from really expressing how much rage this finale created for me. I was so mad. I could not believe it, but I also think that's what's great about this show is that this is a show where the people who brand themselves as the most faithful of the faithful all season long emerge as the biggest traders of all. The biggest assholes of all. And everybody should have known because they're from the biggest asshole show challenge.

Yeah. Where they just fuck you over all the time. That's what they do on this show. Let me tell you something. Ron and I used to work for Buta Murray, which produces the challenge. And we were around all these people for, well, I wasn't around, you were around them more than I was. But I just remember one day walking into the office and CT

was standing there with Derek, remember Derek? And they were both standing, flanking the doors. And I had to walk right between the two of them and they were comparing, um, my space followers, because that's, that's how long ago it was. Yeah. But, but CT was like, yeah, I think I got like a few thousand now and they're like, yeah, I got a whole bunch of my space followers because that's, that's how long ago it was. Yeah. But, but CT was like, yeah, I think I got like a few thousand now and I was like, yeah, I got a whole bunch of my space followers and they were just like having

a pissing contest about my space followers. Wow. And I was like watching the traders. I was like, you know, CT's come a long way. He's really grown up. But now I'm like, no, you're still the same CT who sits in a, in a public space and talks about how many followers you have on my space. Well, that said, I mean, they are playing a game about money. I don't, I think a lot of people

got super angry at them. Get the fuck over. It's a game about screwing each other over for money. Like what part of people getting murdered and banished every episode do you people not understand? That's the point. Now, here's the thing. People people, to me it just proved like people like Trichelle, bossy people who blame everybody for every little thing are really the guilty ones and they walk away with the sack of money every fucking time and if you don't believe me that horrible people run everything, look around you. Look at your bosses at work, look at the people who move up

at work, look at your government, okay? Have you gone to the doctor lately and checked out your doctor's bill? The government did that to you. Okay. Look at them. All you out there fucking rah, rah, rah, and for your government right now. Look what they're doing. Okay.

This is all, this is why Trishelle won. You vote better. I'm, I love that you basically just blamed Trishelle for all the ills of our society. Yeah. Thanks Trishelle. But it's true though. I mean, it's true. I think the issue is it is a game. Yes. Thanks Trishelle. But it's true though. I mean, it's true.

I think the issue is it is a game, yes, but I think what was just so hard is that like, Trishelle was so sanctimonious this entire time. I mean, and then of course, you know, she didn't really think CT was, you know, we're getting out of ourselves. We're getting out of our troubles. Let's just get back.

It is my fault. Okay, so Kate, Alan's like, how do you feel about everybody? And she's like, well, I mean, I like them, which is Kate, uh, I was like, how'd you feel about everybody? And she's like, well, I mean, I like them, which is so weird. I don't like anybody. Like literally nobody, but I guess I like all of them. Is it because they don't talk very much? Is it because I became late and I haven't seen the real them?

I don't know. I kind of hate them. I'm talking myself in a hating. Can I just kill everybody? Hand me that torch. Can I kill Fergus? She's like, you know, I mean so she basically saying like well CT has muscle which is good for the prize pod and MJ has a shield So she's not gonna think about them

So that really just leaves Shirei and Trichelle and she's gonna keep Sandra because there is suspicion on her So that's she's gonna keep her which is like finally someone is thinking with a brain in the turret, like, oh, if people are suspicious of someone, let's not kill them. Let's use them as a red herring. So it's between Shirei and Trashel. So I thought she was going to kill Trashel because it's Trashel as we bane of our society and Shirei doesn't really know what's going on. So she's but she's torn because I think she wants to throw people off the scent that the murderer is from within the Bravo Network Club. Well, unfortunately, they already know because Kate was kind of obvious when she got every, she tipped everybody off when she got so upset with Phaedra.

Yeah. And called Phaedra selfish and all that stuff. And so she's already kind of screwed. And at this point it's a numbers game and she should have kept the Bravo people. Cause one thing I don't think the Bravo people understood is that they need each other. I think they, I think the gamers made the Bravo people feel

like if you aren't willing to vote against each other, you're fucking losers and you're terrible at this game. And you, you know, if you're honest with like, if you stick together, you're terrible people, but they won by sticking together. That's exactly right. Fucking guilting you into behaving a certain way and then betraying you.

Betraying you. So yeah, fuckers. They definitely got played. Yeah. So then let's see. So she decides who she's gonna kill, you know? We're all hoping for Trishelle. I thought for sure it was going to be Trishelle.

Yeah. How has Trishelle made it this long? Literally she's the yappiest fucking person in the, if the squeaky wheel gets the most grease thing. Well. Where everybody kisses the ass of the squeaky skrill. The squeaky as well. I've always said, don't put grease on squeaky wheels.

Replace the fucking wheel. Why are we always trying to grease broken shit? Replace the wheels. We have Amazon now. We can have new wheels. Replace the wheels. Sell some things. Sell your other wheels. Sell the squeaky wheel. And buy a new wheel that doesn't squeak. That doesn't squeak. Cause I don't think it's a standard that all wheels have to squeak anymore. Okay. We're not living in 1933. Change the wheel. And also that goes for the people in your life too. If they're fucking squeaking all. Okay, we're not living in 1933. Change the wheel. And also that goes for the people in your life too.

If they're fucking squeaking all the time, get rid of them. There was like a bill, look at how many McDonald's hamburgers have been served, billions, okay? Who do you think ate those? People, you don't need to spend your time with these fucking losers. Get rid of the trishels

and bring in better hamburger eating people. Yeah. So, Alan's like, it's the final day. Come on, one, just cause you're here today. I know. I'm on one just cuz you're here today I know it's yelling about everything today. I'm really furious now about the government and hamburgers and the bird So Thanks a lot There are three to the faithful really get to walk away with the prize of up to a quarter million dollars

And but after last night's murder whose blood was spilled So NJ enters first and she's excited and everything. She's like, you know, I am, I am happy that MJ made it to the finale because I've been saying actually for several weeks. You have. I think that she's going to make it to the end. I thought she's going to win the whole thing and my prediction would have been

right, except for Trishelle and CT. And so, um, CT comes in next and he's like, whoa, I made it to the final, made it to the final and pumped, it's been a while since I've done a show and it's been one of the best times of my life. And like, you know, some like Stella got a groove back or something, it's wicked awesome. It's like how Nomad got his groove back.

It's awesome. Boston, go red, go Red Sox. So he figures something's up with Kate, right? right because she acted weird which we've already talked about and then he talks to MJ about that I'm just like yeah, I mean see like CT thinks that Kate's a traitor, but like Kate just like gives me Faithful energy, you know Yeah, my gut tells me Sandra's a traitor. I mean, she's a gamer. She's a military woman. So go, okay. Geez.

So someone's not tying a ribbon around an old oak tree. Taking it. So then Kate comes in and... That's such a little... I forgot about that. I was like, that took me back to sixth grade. I know, right? I'm just like, don't trust her.

She's in the military. Geez. So then Kate talks about how last time she was here, she went all the way to the end and got nothing. And this time could be different. So they're talking about like, oh my God, you know, who's gonna be gone? Everybody left is such a strong person.

And then Sandra comes in next and she's like, oh my God, you know, who's gonna be gone? Everybody left is such a strong person. And then Sandra comes in next and she's like, I'm into final and I cannot believe it. Yeah. And she thinks that Kate's a traitor because obviously like you said, Kate really gave herself away. So, CT's like, well, so how many we got left? One or two? How many, how many traders?

So Sandra's like- This is where they started, I'm sorry. This is where they should have started working it against Trishel. Yeah. Well, that was always my issue. I think I said this last week, I've said this to umpteen people since this happened.

Trishel has played this game with utter privilege in the sense that she's never had to be on defense, ever, ever, ever, ever. She's always been on offense. And so she's never had to be on defense, ever, ever, ever, ever. She's always been on offense. And so she's had the luxury of being able to lob out accusations without having to deal with the utter inconvenience of having to defend herself and her honor and her decisions without any suspicion.

And that gives you a huge advantage. And I don't know why no one was planting a seed. Like, yes, everyone's like, well, you know, in our heart of hearts that Trashel is good and CT is good. Well, you don't know. I mean, look at Ciri last season. That's what they thought about Ciri. I don't know why there was never a seed that was just planted that like, you

know, all this time we thought Trashel has been like the best of the best. But like, do we actually know this? We just assume this and look, Shirei's just been killed, who knows? Well, they have to switch it at this point, switch a strategy and be like, okay, well Trishelle, because her thing has been, why would I kill everybody on my own team?

That doesn't even make any sense. So I can't be a traitor, right? Which actually makes sense when you're watching the show. But at this point, they should have been like, oh, she's killing everybody from her team to frame everybody else. Because it can only be one or two winners or three winners or whatever at the end.

Everybody can't win. So no one's on her team. She's on her own team. And that's why she's framing everybody else and complaining the most and bullying everybody because bullies always get away with everything because everybody doesn't want to be pushed into a locker. I don't know why no one is doing this with Trichelle but anyway. But it's so easy at the end right? Because Trichelle's also that kind of person

where I see why you would keep Trichelle because she's just such a gross person that I think people are like well someone's gonna kick off Trichelle, someone's gonna murder her ass or banish her. Like she's terrible, you know, and they just never do. Well, because honestly, would you voluntarily get rid of someone who brings so many fashionable berets into the house? Yes. She's high fashion guys.

She would have been number one for me. I hate a badly placed hat. I hate it. Like there's like a reason that Kyle Richards will never win with me and it's the hats. It's the fucking hats. It always has been. Always. So anyway, Shireh is murdered, which I thought was a strange choice because Shireh doesn't seem to know what's going on. And then, you know, we see, we see, you know, Kate flashback to Kate murdering her and

saying, you know, that this is going to take some suspicion off of her the Bravo Network Club, etc. And then we see Sharae receiving her letter and Sharae is like, well, you know, I've been figuring things out. And what I have figured out is that kid is traitor. And let me talk about the bad as my last night came came in, came in hot. And she it was written all over her face face and she couldn't even make eye contact with the fadress. She wouldn't even look at the fadress. She just sat there with this pout dude look at her face. It's like, oh, suddenly Shirazio decided to play the game at the very last second. Yeah. Well, you know, she gets things late. Like I really like watching mysteries,

but I never guess them until the very end. And then I act so smart when I've guessed it. I'm like, Oh my God, I knew it. I knew it the whole time. I did not know it. Yeah. That's why I like those shows. I'm confused the entire time. And then you piece it together with like half a second and you're like, Oh, I knew it. I knew it. I called it. Yeah. Or if I'm watching with somebody else, I'll keep saying they did it. That guy did it. The boyfriend always did it. And then I'll be like, Oh my God, the guy at

the store did it. It's always the guy at the store who did it. It was the cousin, it's always the cousin, and then when one of them is the killer, I'm like, see? Yeah, that's the thing, it's like you cover the spot. You just covered the spot. It's like betting everything on roulette. It's time for a commercial, it's time for a Crappins commercial.

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And I bet on every value. I thought I was being so smart because I was like, well, one of them is going to hit. So therefore like what one of them hits, I'm going to, I'm going to make all this money for $40 to make $20. So yeah, I spent, I spent, I put money on like every single value and then the lowest value hit And I got two dollars back and lost like forty dollars on everything else. Yeah, they get you Just paying attention casino bosses. I Like the eyes the 21 year old was gonna I was gonna pull one over the eyes of the casino

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It's got to be an omen. So she's like, you know, this is giving me Sandra murder energy. Because, you know, them J's really like you just put one little seed in her head and it immediately moves into a beautiful flower. She's like, you know, who's guilty Kate? No, it's Sandra. It's Sandra. She wasn't the military. This looked like I could swear when I woke up this morning, I heard a bugle.

So then they do a cheers to the final five. Because it was Sandra doing the cheers. There was a lot of whisper, whisper talking. So Alan comes in and is this where he had the pashmina? That was later, right? Later. Here's where he had, he sort of, he was sort of had a very kind of like um preppy haircut and he's like good morning my fearless five last night

while you were all dreaming of awaiting which is the traitor regrouped for all time sick and for them it was a case of hip hop sherry hip hip sherry hip hip sherry hip hip sherry hip hip city. Oh, hip hip city. Like hip hip city. Hip hip city. I read that wrong. She's murdered. So now it's a sprint to the finish, and it's a real mountain of a time.

I hope you are late. What I've got clean for you. Because he's dropping his little clues about what's in this finale challenge. Now I have to warn little clues about what's in this finale challenge. Now I have to warn you, when it gets to this finale challenge, I don't know what it is here. I think it's the physical exertion of it all.

I just can't, like there was a movie, the Oscars were last night as you guys know, and there was a movie, I didn't even know this was a movie. Like Jody Foster was nominated for an Oscar. I didn't even know this. And it was some movie about sports with the net bending about running. I mean, I can't.

I can't even believe I remembered it this morning because I blocked it out and it looked like a joke. Like I looked it up while we were watching it and I was like, this has to be a joke. It looks like a joke poster. How can anybody nominate a sports movie? Those are disgusting. That is such trash.

I'm mad at Jodie Foster for even making. And Annette Benning, who I've invoked a million times on these recaps because Parvati looks like a young Annette Benning. I didn't even know Annette Benning was back in a film. Well, at least Parvati can win something. Am I right? All Annette Benning needed was a really hideous headband

to bring her some luck last night. She couldn't even do that, right? Please welcome five-time Oscar-losing actress, Annette Benning. Hi. The winner of tonight's Oscar Award, Parvati's Headband. It was a really close call. A glint close call. She's lost eight Oscars. Wow. A glin close call, she's lost eight Oscars. Wow. Rod and I basically did Padma Lakshmi doing the Oscars. We watched it together, we should have recorded it,

but we watched it together and we spent the entire time talking like Padma Lakshmi at the Oscars. It was a delight. As one does. So now it's time for the challenge. And Sandra's like, okay, the way that I'm going to get the end, my strategy is there's one coffee cup and one cell phone. And then the coffee cup goes over the cell phone, but then a fingernail goes into the

teeth and gets out a little bit of breakfast toast from, I'm like, okay, we get it. She just, she loves a small prop. So Kate Trichell and MJ, they go to talk in a room and then CT goes with Sandra into a different room and CT's like, so how's this gonna go? We gotta, it would be such a good look if the Faithfuls went and she goes, yeah, absolutely. You know, we gotta start with Kate.

She hasn't been here long enough and she had a bone to pick with Phaedra. And basically Sandra's on to Kate. Sandra feels it in her bones and CT's like yeah this is yeah that doesn't make sense why she gets so mad about it and it's like look we only need three votes and Sandra's like we need to get Kate out and that's it we're here so in the other room though Trishelle is talking with Kate and MJ and she's like okay alright hello resident fashionista is here

and we need to talk about something. Okay. And I'm talking about tonight, like, what do y'all think about Sandra? And in case like, well, I mean, I know that she's one survivor. Twice. She's like, Oh my god, really? That's crazy. She's brilliant. Only brilliant people would survive her. What a brilliant military person am I right MJ? God those military people. So they think if she's at breakfast today, that MJ was like if she's at breakfast today, I've told myself if she's at breakfast today, she's the murderer. So they are doing a turn on

Sandrine out. So meanwhile, CT and Trishelle are talking, or Trishelle goes to C.T. to talk. And they're like, wait a minute, he said, what did MJ say? And she's like, she thinks it's Sandra. So I think, you know, both of them want to get Sandra, but it could be Tray. And he's like, yeah, you know, Kate acted real funny yesterday.

I don't really get what's going on. And she's like, yeah, so here we need, we need three votes. I'm a vote, you're a vote, and Sandra's a vote. It's like, yeah. So, um, here we need, we need three votes. I'm a vote, you're a vote, and Sandra's a vote. That's three people. So we need to get rid of Kate. We need to get rid of Kate called the police. I've had it with her. I'd like to call the manager on Kate, please. I feel terrible calling the police on a fellow blonde white lady. But I will do it. CT, CT and I said that we're going to be taking each other to the end of the game. And we have a lot of history and I've known him for 20 years.

And now I know I can trust him because he holds a purse. Great when I'm talking to the manager. Okay. So the plan is I know this much about him. He's not a drag queen. So CT's like, okay, we got a really good chance of winning this together. So they're like, yeah, we're going to do this. So now a helicopter comes to pick them up. So we're now we're going to go into like this physical challenge.

Sort of what you were saying, you know, I don't love the challenges on the show. Sometimes they're really funny and I can get involved in them, but they don't really have their very inconsequential. And this was the most inconsequential of all the challenges, and it was also the most uninteresting of all the challenges. It was just them running along the seaside. They were like running on a rocky seaside,

pulling up lobster traps with ropes, and then like going down a cliff. And then it just was very blah. Well, you know, I had a friend, Kimberly, hi Kimberly. She was on Cut Cake Wars. Okay. And I shouldn't be talking about this because I'm sure there were enemies.

Kimberly, that's the one that I know? Yeah. She was on Cut Cake Wars. She was on Cut Cake Wars. And she said that, you know what, I shouldn't tell the story. I'm gonna have to save this for another time because what if she does get in trouble?

Is it like an NJ? I fed her name. Yeah. Well, you haven't said anything. Okay. Let me talk about another friend I know who's on Smop Schmeth. Okay.

For one second, they got kicked off first. Okay. They said sometimes the timers are bullshit. Well, obviously. And this show, Kimberly didn't say that though. No, but I mean, this show is obvious that the timers are always, it's always at seven seconds. So they finish things like it shows CT going up a mountain going through a river flying in the helicopter seconds left.

And he's like, they show him in Texas on a horse. So he's back. I'm he's at customs. They're like, it's like, seconds left, CT. You've had 18 minutes. It's like he's been to the moon. Like we see him planting a flag on the moon. Like wait a minute.

Yeah, no, they get into... My god, did I just get my friend sued? No. But they have to get into like a little dinghy. They have to get into like a little dinghy and then like go out to this boat and they have to get on the boat and then they have to raise a flag. And as they're like going to the boat, they're like, 90 seconds left. I'm like, it's going to take five minutes to get to that boat.

It's like on top chef speaking of when they're like, you have 30 minutes in this quick fire to make me a roast chicken, gnocchi and spaghetti from scratch. And they all do it. That's bullshit. I can't even cut a salad in 30 minutes. Okay. Yeah. Cutting all the vegetables, shaking up a little vinegar with a thing.

I just don't believe these timers are lies. Yeah, I don't, I don't believe any of it. So, um, yeah. So they, cause you know, also, like it takes two minutes to get to the boat. And then once they get to the boat, they still have to get onto the boat. And you're going to tell me that like Sandra, MJ, and Kate are going to just like, just get on that boat. And no, it's going to take a, it's going to be a process.

Yeah. Okay. So a lot of this stuff happens. Um, I don't watch it. It goes on for a very long time. It, it goes on. I was taking, you know, kind of notes, but I wasn't really watching it. But there was a lot of very majestic music playing

while I was looking through my phone. I took it as like swiping, it's like, there's Ronnie Goals swiping up the Instagram. Oh, look at Ronnie looking at Countess Luan's page on the Instagram. Is it mad? Hattie up. So they raise a sale.

It's a lot. It's a lot. I think it goes on. It goes on. It's like, 15 minutes. I don't think we need any of it. Okay. We just want scheming, but they won $50,000.

So that was good. And he's like, we did it. I'm so proud of us, but it's not over yet. My life has changed and now it's gonna change even more. So now they're getting in the cars and Kate and CT are in a car together and they're sort of just joking and talking whatever and you know, just Kate's like so MJ told me today. Hey Sandra I was like I'm down with that because I love Sandra.

But like, she's also like such an obvious gamer. And she's like, yeah, she's also a gamer. Speaking of which, gamer, are you a trader? And she's like, me, how dare you? That's like so rude. Like, why would you even say that? I'm like, Kate, just say no. Don't do the questions.

Say no. I think she actually handled this one pretty well. Cause she's like, you know, actually, like I was really proud because like I was able to spot the trader, you know, and it's just like annoying to me that you think that wasn't a skill. You think it's just because like I knew, I mean, come on. And so he's like, you know what? She's pretty convincing. Yeah.

Which she, it works. Yeah. And so, um, CT is like, I mean, not that well. Yeah. That was the best she could do, I think in that. Yeah. But he's, but she's basically like, um, you know, she's like axol offended and everything. And is able to like turn the table against Sandra and be like, yeah, I think like Sandra's like bad and everything. And he, and, um, and he's like, yeah, he's like, you know what, like me and chichelle was talking this morning and she wants to vote for kate but i gotta say though kate's convinced him starting second guess i mean this game i'm telling you this game there's

always another twist i'm like you don't get to complain about twists after what happens at the end of this episode sir yeah so he's talking to sandra now and uh sandra thinks mj is a faithful she's like i feel it in my bones. She's a faithful. But we do need a separator from Kate, those bravo ladies, that's for sure. And so then Kate's like, has a soup. Which as we know is a total son of guilt on this show. The person who comes in talking about food,

she's inherited that from. The soup thing. Well, but importantly, before even the soup thing, CT tell Sandra He's like by the way, you know, you know Mjan Kate are they're gonna vote. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Yeah They're gonna vote for you and Sandra's like what so then she goes into the kitchen where Kate is trying the soup Yes, so she's trying to test her out and case like has to see boiled eggs boiled eggs Does it work for me and Sandra's like I want to pick your brain. Okay. Let's get down to the nitty gritty

What's gonna happen at this round table? She's like, well, I think there are gonna be Surprises Yeah, you know like bird crash against the window things like that and Sandra's like She's like well CT told me that you brought my name up And she goes, oh, well, no, I mean, I don't think you're a traitor at all. I mean, four days ago, I thought I saw a different side of you and it was weird that you were lining up ketchup bottles instead of billiard balls.

I thought that's strange, just a different kind of look for her. But like, I'm not the one shopping your name around. I talked to CT in the car and I wish he hadn't said it that way, because I don't want to put you out, but basically the CT who said it, not me. She's like, well, when I hear that, I think there's ulterior motive. Shhh.

So she's like, uh-huh. She just lets her spin. Yeah. Which is probably smart, you know? So she's like, okay. So then if CT Trichelle and me go for you, then you're gone. And in case she's like,

Hmm, did I mention tomato soup? Boiled eggs? Boiled eggs? Boiled eggs. She's like, okay, you're gone. And in case she's like, did I mention tomato soup boiled eggs boiled eggs? Boiled eggs. She's like, okay, you're right. So let's vote, let's vote against them then. So she's like, basically, we need three votes. Okay, please put down the balls. Put down the balls, please. Here's, here's how it's gonna work. No, there's, there's only five people left, you don't even

have to use any visual aids, we sort of get three against two. Yeah. So three is more balls than two balls. If there's three balls and one ball, that's two, two healthy men separated. Does that make any sense to you? Okay. Now you're just confusing me. Okay. All right. Please stop trying to take my shoe off my foot. We don't need to use shoes in this. No, I think it'll really make sense if I use your shoe.

But basically Sandra's like, well then what if you, me and MJ vote against CT? So then of course, Kate goes over to CT and goes, and he's like, oh, Kate, I thought you avoiding me. I was like, oh, is she campaigning against me? Huh, well, it sounds like that's what you're doing. Cause guess what? Sandra just told me that you wanted to vote against me.

And he's like, oh, so, but then it's great cause she makes him be on defense about like what he was saying. And then she's able to put, turn it against Sandra because then he's, then she's like, Oh, well, you know what? Sandra said that she's voting for you. Cause Kate got Sandra to say that she's going to vote for CT. I know.

This classic survivor happening. It is, but I mean, of course, in hindsight, it's 2020 and I wasn't there, obviously. It's so easy to like armchair ref this stuff, but wouldn't it have been better of her just not to go to CT and put them on the defensive and just vote out CT? I mean, well, they need to get Sandra out over CT. CT has the team with Trichelle, so it would have been better to let Sandra stay because she's a lone wolf. Yeah, I think I think that Kate was just going for wherever she felt there was most doubt and maybe she just felt like CT. It seemed like CT really was doubting Sandra more than Sandra was doubting CT.

Oh, that's true. Yeah. Um, but she knows that CT's the one going behind her back. Right. But I don't know. I don't know. Well, I'm assuming, I'm assuming, well, she's either way, she's pitting them both against each other. And I think then she's waiting for the round table to decide which way it's going to go. Right. Okay. So let's see. So CD, CT's like, okay, everybody's selling everybody what they, everybody wants a year. And I just don't like why she vote for me. All right. That don't make sense. Something's happening here.

We got, do you think he found some Scotts in the castle by the way? I think so. Cause he's drunk by the reunion, right? By the reunion. I don't know. It's not the same day, but the reunion is like, here's, here's what you guys do when you talk about the game. Yeah.

You know, I was like, go Pats. I bring Tom Brady back. Yeah. Yeah, Bill Hatch is a good guy, but maybe he needs to go. Well, it's time for the final round table. Is this where he wears the Pashmina? Yes. Oh my God.

Pashmina, good Lord. This bedazzled ass Pashmina. So he comes in looking all cray-cray. And this wasn't my favorite. Can you tell? I normally love his like fabulous fashions. This was not one of them. I thought this was very like felt from like, I don't know if you had to do this in like Hebrew school, but in Jesus' school, we used to have to make these big felt. Oh, maybe that's why I've got these felt things in here. Maybe it's like my childhood, but we had to make these big felt things.

You put like a big felt banner up and then you cut little felt pieces and then you make Jesusy things like Joseph, like the nativity scene. It's like they're at a barn and they just had a baby. It's like a little felt baby. Um, how am I talking about, um, it is, oh, yeah. It was Pajamina, like one of those Jesusy felt things, except it was bedazzled, which is always what I wanted to do with those felt things. And it was so maybe I do.

You're just jealous. Yeah. You're just jealous that your Jesus Jesus school I had to make Jesus and he goes to fucking glitter up his and where it is a Pajmina. Yeah. Well, I liked it because I don't have any baggage from Jesus school. So it was just like a pure Pajmina experience for me. So I liked it because I don't have any baggage from Jesus' school, so it was just like a pure Pajmina experience for me.

So I liked it. So that's the final round table. Welcome players to the great hall of gargantuan lies and grandiose bluster for this, the final round table. Merde! Your prize now stands at a staggering $8 thousand dollars with one hundred dollars only otherwise known as Julianna Marguerles is Payment for ten minutes of being on the good wife Not that I'm bitter about that one, but

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Spoiler alert, but Gail's breath sounds like every time she burps. Spoiler alert, Gail's also at the round table, pizza. So by the way, $208,000, what cheap fucks? I know the split. I mean, I saw this article once, you know, the girl from the show about teenagers doing drugs and fucking, what's that called? Oh, emphysema? No. Phenzema.

What's it called? Oh, don't play with that. Have spit on it. It's called, um... Eat this pin. Euphoria. Euphoria. Okay, so there's a girl from Euphoria.

It could be called a Allison Sweeney. That's her name. Emphasia. No, that's that's euphoria. Sweeney from the biggest loser. No, isn't there a Sweeney? There's an actress named Sweeney. Look, let's look at who's Allison Sweeney.

Before this out steering rail. Isn't Allison Sweeney the biggest like the. So yeah, uh, you for Allison Sweeney is like, when I got cast in euphoria back, baby. Sydney Sweeney. Oh, Sydney S the soap. Yeah. Uh, you for Allison Sweeney is like, when I got casting you for, yeah. Back baby. Sydney Sweeney. Oh, Sydney Sweeney. Yeah. Sorry.

She is slightly better than. Howdy. And no offense Allison loved your work as, um, Billy reads Nemesis. What was her name? She was in love with Austin. She was Carrie's sister, Sammy. She played Sammy. Okay.

Anyway, the point is, Sydney, very pouty, very pouty. Yeah. I saw this article and she's like, actors don't even make any money anymore. These days. Yeah. We live like the port. We're like the blue collar people of Hollywood. I only, my house is only like 500,000 dollars and I still can't pay it. And I drive a shitty car. Like she was bitching about and I get it because like shows are only 10 episodes and they're like, oh, you're going to get $10,000 an episode. I get it. But anyway, the point is, I was thinking, you're not the real blue collar worker.

These poor reality show people, I mean, my God, $100, $200,000 to split. Sydney Sweeney, I know you may not be making as much money as your predecessors, but are you also having to run around a cliff in the cold Scottish fall? Like in that, in the cold Scottish fall, like in that serious, I mean, you're still being catered to on hand and foot in a, in a

Starwagon and on your studio, sad. And I'm talking like Meredith Marks now for some reason, I'm litigating this case. Yeah. Um, that was a really long road I took to get to that point, but I feel like there should be more money. You know what I mean? A banana cost might be $7 now. Yeah. $200,000. Well, technically it was on them to earn more money,

but I agree. But also, like one of the issues with the traders is that like, if you're faithful, maybe you're real, like maybe you're not totally incentivized to get rid of traders. You just want to make it to the end because you don't want to split that prize pot with too many people, right? Yeah. But I guess you're always going to, it's, it's, they're never going to allow the show to end early, right? Like it's always going to come down to like about four or five people. Cause they'll just always, once a trader gets voted off, they'll just

replace it with a new trade. Well, last year I didn't. Last year it came down to like four or three. Wasn't it two? The last year is Quentin and Andy as the last two remaining faithful. And three. Ari. Well, Ari was a bad guy at that point.

Right. Okay. I forgot. But the point is this, like, if they had, like, the producers were not going to allow an early trader routing, right? Like the faithful would have won when they got rid of Fedra, but they allow the constant recruitings that way the show can reach its full episode order. I think they still need to work on. I mean, I know this format is great and it's like proving to be very successful. I think they need to work on it. The ending still is confusing to me.

Not confusing, I just, I need like a more solid way than just like, we stand around a fire of death or whatever it is, a colored fire gender reveal. Is your baby a piggy or a party? No, they do, it does like, I would like some codified rules. I feel like we got there. They, you know, so now we know the official rule is anytime a trader

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All right, I can honestly say I've really tried to play this game as open and honest. Oh God, really? You're out Richard. You're going to pull out Kyle Richards terminology. You should have known. And if you're teaming up with a hat person, listen, I love your butt. And I love your big belly, and I love all your hair

and your beautiful soulful eyes. You're dead to me, sir. You just died to me with your open and honest. We should have known he was gonna be deceitful the moment he said he was playing the game open and honest. Because by the way, he's not playing it open and honest because he's turned on people. Because Phaedra may have been a traitor, but she was loyal to CT and she's

to, and she was going to protect CT and he turned on her a long time ago. Yeah. So he's like, you know, I'm like a workhorse. So that's why I'm still here, you know, and, uh, uh, you know, I always like try to play with my stat strategy, a burden to hand. I was like, how did I ever like you? I like everything you're saying in this monologue is making me hate you. Who says that?

A bird in the hand. Trishelle's like, I'd like to call the manager. Someone here is holding a bird. I just feel like that's unfair. He was holding a bird in his hand and then he slammed it up against my window. That was the Omen, that was C.T.'s bird. What was the bird that's in his hand, by the way?

Does anyone have a bird in the hand in this game? A bird in the hand is better than two birds in a bush. Yeah, but all the birds are in the bush in this game. There's no birds in your hand. You just hold it onto a croissant. Listen, this game I've pretty much relied on a bird in a beret. Titi, you're just jerking off.

That's what you're doing. That's not a bird that's in your hand. Gross. So Trishelle, you're the one having sexual fantasies about him. So Trishelle's like, Trishelle's like, yeah, Kate, explain that. Oh, sorry. Casitis like, you know, there've been a lot of suspicions, especially about you, Kate. And Trishelle's like, yeah, Kate, explain that, because I want to know that because I came in mid, oh, sorry. She, Kate's, okay. I'm gonna stop. I have suspicions. You better explain yourself. Cause like, oh my God, like I came in mid, oh, sorry. She keeps, okay, I'm just gonna stop. I have suspicions.

You better explain yourself. Okay, it's like, oh my God, like I came in mid season. So there was already relationships and, you know, my only chance to stay was forming an alliance with Bravo people. So I did that. So, I mean, look, it was already set up for me. So if you don't like me for that, sorry.

And I'm like, oh, okay. But what about Phaedra? Did you think that she was the trainer? And she's like, yeah. She goes, but then why did you keep her if she's a trainer? And we're like faithful people, how could you do this? By the way, I still think it's funny that CT says, Kate, there've been a lot of suspicions about you.

And Trishelle goes, yeah, Kate, explain that. Like why should Kate have to explain why there are suspicions about her? You're the one who came up with them. I mean, it's hard for the fact that Kate acted suspiciously. So Kate would be sitting so pretty if she didn't do that fadre thing. Yeah. She was no one suspected her at that point.

Yeah. So Kate's like, well, you know, I defended fadre because it felt like she, you know, you know, it really mattered which, which trader we got out first. I didn't like come back to play this game. So I could like do the missions. Okay. The missions are stupid. We all agree.

We just did one. Wasn't that stupid? It was really stupid. But what I do like is like the round table because I'm good at noticing quirks about people and I enjoy when I find a traitor. And that's why when I got here I had fresh eyes. I could see that Dan was being defensive. It's not because I was a traitor. It's because it was acting like Sandra and my gut is telling me that you're a traitor. So MJ is like, well, Sandra, you're a trader and I think you were recruited because that's what my gut said.

But then I'm not a trader. I think you're not a trader. I could be a trader. I definitely think you're a trader. Yeah, damn it. So then MJ is like, you know, I thought Shirem Fajor were traders, but then I thought they were protecting me.

But then, so then Sandra comes in and she's like, okay, you know, they don't know, I'm confusing myself. They're all going off on who they think is the trader, right? So then CT is like, well, I just don't like playing this whole thing telling everybody what they want to hear because it feels dirty to me and I don't like it. So I'm just gonna put it on the table Sandra I do think you're a traitor and now you're coming for me. She's like, I was only coming for you because kate said you were You were coming for me. He's like that ain't true

But it is true and I panicked and then she said, oh my god. I need a plan b Yeah, uh, yeah, you only came up here because of my conversation with her. And I regret that the minute she scared me about CT saying my name in the car, like that was panic mode for me. I was like, oh my God, here I am. I'm gonna be the one writing down CT's name.

And so did we. Sandra's like, you shut me up. In case I did not set you up. She didn't set you up. She did shut me up. I didn't set you up. I'm extremely lazy. I would not have taken the time to set you up.

The only thing I set up are tables and I'm no longer a chief stew. So. I don't work unless I'm on the clock. You guys realize I hate all of you. Like there's, I wouldn't set up one of you over the other because you're all equally stupid in my mind. So then Sandra's like, if you guys do this,

I'm gonna stand up there like peppermint stood up there. I like Max stood up there. And you're gonna say, damn, I fucked up. I thought Sandra was a traitor. Here's what I say to you. Has a traitor ever picked up pool balls to explain numbers to you? Players, the time for talk is over.

It is now time to vote and avoid. Madder. So everyone, Trashelle's really flummoxed because she thought the plan was to vote for Kate. And there was an unflappable plan. But now all of a sudden CT is talking that he wants to get rid of Sandra and she's confused and so Trichelle is just being very she's being very Trichelle like she wants to speak the manner of her chalkboard because she's like

She's writing things down. She's Well, she's right to be like what the fuck with this guy because they're like what telly telly everything and then he kept all this stuff From her so I get why she's like what the hell. Yeah, what's he like, everything. And then he kept all this stuff from her. So I guess why she's like, what the hell? But yeah, she's not a very subtle person. Yeah. So now they go around the table and so Kate, of course, votes for Sandra. Cause that's, you know, if she's going to MJ votes for Sandra because MJ woke up feeling like Sandra is a traitor and she's in the military.

And then Sandra is just like, Kate, like I voted for you. Like, you know, she's like, she just knows it's definitely gonna be Kate, but the tide is turning against Sandra. Yeah. And so there's two votes for Sandra, one for Kate. So then if Sandra receives one more vote, Andrew stills like Sandra.

I put Sandra's name down because I just want to be with the majority vote. So I guess if it's wrong, I didn't do this, you guys. It wasn't me. Sandra, you have received the most votes and are banished from the game. But first CT, can you please reveal your choices? So he also votes Sandra.

So she's gone, she's a goner. So she goes to the circle of truth and it's like, my heart is really broken. I never once doubted you. I never once doubted you at all. And I don't regret anything I've done in my in this game. I'm a faithful. Good luck guys.

Yeah, and I like that she chooses people. She's like, I didn't doubt you. I didn't doubt you. I didn't doubt you. All right, just until you make it right by me, whatever you do to me has already been done to you. A little silly accent. And I believe.

Okay, Fantasia, that's enough. And I am here. Ha ha ha ha. I was singing Fantasia with an American Idol song. Mixing my Fantasia scenes. I got my survivor wins. I got my traitor experience. I've got my over says poncho.

And I'm walking out of here. I've got my overseas pond show and I'm walking out of here. I've got my red ball. I've got my red ball here. I've got a red button. Sandra, you're just picking up different bowls, Sandra. I believe I know billiard balls better than anything else in my life right now. Oh God.

So, also one thing missing from the Oscars, well, a lot of things, girl power, how would you have an entire Oscars in the year of Barbie and give everything to fucking Burdenheimer? What a joke. And then you don't put Fantasia in the, how did Fantasia not get an Oscar?

No matter what you think of her acting, do you know how much Fantasia has gone through? Have you even Oprah, bro? Yeah. That's what I say to you, Academy. But congratulations to Billie Eilish for this. I'm singing to you. She sings that song. She sings that song. Okay, whenever the sun starts to come up,

Bealer wakes up. He wants to get up because I'm old now. I'm old and drug-free, so I get up at six in the morning. So when it's time to get up, Bealer starts doing this. Because he knows I'll get in trouble if he cries, so he just does this like... And that's how Billy Eilish sings that song.

Okay, so Sandra, come to the circle of truth. Also, I didn't really notice this until a listener pointed it out this week. Sandra's Poncho game really is strong. Have we even talked about her ponchos? We haven't, but I love that camel skin, the camel hair, not camel skin, camel hair.

The only girl I've ever seen was Via. I mean, nice job. Yeah, no, she has great ponchos. She does. So Sandra is, she's gone. I tell you, my great-grandfather, Jiddi Hanna, got run out of Mexico by Poncho Villa. They were trying to murder my Jiddi because he was like a conservationist

and the government. Don't put on lipgloss while you're telling a story about your grandfather getting run out of Mexico by Pancho Villa. No, this is not a, this is not a lip. Obviously I wasn't around. Did I tell you this story? Did I tell you this story about my grandfather? I told you I tried to kill my great grandfather, Jiddi Hanma.

This is why you all need crap is on demand. So you can see Ronnie applying his lip balm or whatever. Did you guys hear this story about how my grandfather, my 50 was run out of my hair by Pancho B. He was because he was like a conservationist and then the government was like giving away land to all their rich friends and they were chopping down all the trees. I don't know, that's what I was told.

Okay, anyway, back to the show. My lips are not done. So, to give truth. And Sandra was like, my heart is broken. My Pancho will never be the same so she's out And she's self like oh my god, what a colossal mistake you guys made I Like to return this garment, please So now they have to go Alan's like well our little game is careening towards the climax

But it's not quite over yet. Once again, I hand the power over to you and you will each get soon face a choice in the game or vanish again. By the end of the night, we will know if any traitors remain and more importantly, who is taking the money home? This is the ultimate act of self-imperiment. Oh, okay. You're a real, I almost said Don Rickles.'s a trying to say so self up but you're real Tony Robbins there real Joel Austin. So Kate's like my god how did I get the least amount of accusations this evening morons and just like oh my god everyone else is so it fall right now I'm'm so mad about it. I'm like so pure.

I bet I get a free dessert. That's what she wants. I want the banana cream pie. You know, so this is where Kate not putting any suspicion on Trishelle is a mistake because now everyone's like, oh, well, we got it wrong with Sandra. So it has to be Kate. But there's again, there's no reason why it has to be Kate. Like we know it has, like based on their logic,

it has to be Kate, but like there's no reason why. Can't be. They're always like that though. If they had two choices and one of them wasn't the killer, they're like, it must have been the other one. I thought you were wrong two times. Yeah, you could have been wrong twice. Yeah.

So then Alan, now he like does the one-on-one interviews, right? Because it's almost a fire of two rules. So first he sits down with CT and CT's like, oh, you know, my nerves are shy here, brother. You know, just when you think you got it all figured out, then, you know, things change. But, you know, I guess we're gonna have to stick to our plan to vote out Kate. Mm-hmm. And, um, and then MJ is like, I trust Kate Trishelle and CT, but there has to be a

traitor to eliminate because Shirei was murdered. And all I want is to end the game and share the pot with the Faithfuls. So which, by the way, why kill the faithfuls? I hate this strategy of like, oh my God, I just wanna share it with other good people. And I think this is somebody who's like- Well, you have to because if you have a trader in there, you're going to, you lose all the money. Right, but you wanna be the only faithful standing, right?

You wanna win all the money. You still have to be greedy. No, but if you're the only faithful standing, you wanna be the final two, basically. Well, right, but if you're the only faithful standing you want to be the final two basically well, right? But what happened today to that later? I mean everybody knows he was listening to this I don't know why I'm acting like it's such a spoiler, but I Don't know she needs to be more ruthless I don't like this whole like I just want to end up at the other good people and I feel like it's left over from

Shaz's sunset because you know they were so mean to each other on that show. And I think she's like probably taken so much shit from people about it that she's like, I'm going to prove that I am loyal, but it's the wrong time. It's a game show. Like, yeah. She had timing. Well, I think that like this is a big learning lesson for the next season of the Traders, which is that like, if you find yourself in a final four and you know that one of them is a trader, then what you do is you keep the trader for one round

because you know that if you get rid of the trader and you're down to three, then you run the risk, then you're at the mercy of some other people. But if you vote with the trader in the final four, you can vote out the person who you trust the least and then you pair up with the other faithful and you get vote out the person who you trust the least and then you pair up with the other faithful and you get rid of the trader. So that's a lot. And that was a lot. Sorry. I, I, I,

no, don't be sorry. I got to break into myself. I was actually just watching you open up that topochico. Now I kind of want one. I kind of want the other topochico. Here's why I have another one. I need to change your mind. Yeah, I did. Okay. You're at nowhere. Like me. No. Yeah. That's why you have to have your, your wine change your mind. Yeah, I did. Okay. You're a no where like me. No

Yeah, that's why you have to have your your wine key here. All right. I got my wine. Um Okay, yeah, we just needed to take a moment to think about all that. It's just a lot. Okay, so then um Let's see Kate's like, I mean I hate her like like I like everybody. I hit it just burned the castle down She and he's like, are going to be able to handle it? You're my last traitor standing in my little murderer. And she's like, well, you know, this was going to be a difficult situation. But I'm going to lie to these idiots and I'm going to take all the cash. And God really hopes somebody cries. I can't be the only person who teared on my couch.

I'm like, yes. Welcome to the fire of truth. By sunrise, this will all be over. So make this evening count. And of course, it's just like, I'm somebody king. King, king, king, king, king, king, king, king. So now it's the fire of truth. So they have to vote.

They have to do their Kermit, the Frog, the Gendarroville. Either you're going to have a Kermit or you're going to have a Miss Piggy. One is orange and one is green. And so if you vote for the card, if you throw your card in the fire and it turns green, that means it's in the game. The other is banished again. So, so it's time that they all have these little satchels of chemicals that are going to make a different color in the fire.

And they have to hand in their satchels. And I thought this was going to be an anonymous experience. Um, but actually no, Alan's like, Kate voted green. And you're like, well, thanks, Alan. And so if everyone votes to banish again, except for Kate. So this shouldn't be, it should be confidential, right? That it should, it should be, it should be a confidential. Cause it was a dead giveaway that it was her.

Cause she's the only person who voted to. That's the end of the game right now, please. I think it's good. I think it's good. I think we got rid of all the, yeah. So we got rid of all the traders. I don't think it's an issue anymore. I think that murder was actually just an accident.

So basically just, you know, I want to walk out out of here with $20. That was my goal. So, I mean, we're going to do it. So as long as I could take, you know, some of that soup, maybe in a Tupperware, I mean, I really don't want to have to feed my baby. So Kate being the only one to vote to end the game was a really like, I don't know if she was planning to lie and go further. I'm not sure, but look at Bueller.

Look how angelic he is. Yeah, he's like sitting in a ray of sunshine snoring like a. I mean, he's like a freak. During the night. He's like. What was I made for? No, that's a full on story snoring. He does. Oh my gosh.

So little little angel. You don't hear it on the podcast, but he does make a lot of noise. I'm always looking back there like, are you OK? He is here. I can take a photo of him because he looks really angelic. Well, you know, you know, we're on camera. We're on a camera.

We already we already scampered away because a bird hit the window. OK. Um, so, uh, so anyway, so Kate votes green in the game. And I'm like, I don't know how Kate gets out of this one. My theory was that Kate thought it was gonna be an anonymous draw. And so she gets called out and it looks really bad for her. And everyone's like, Kate, you do remember

that there's still a traitor amongst us. Like someone was murdered last night. there's still a traitor amongst us, like someone was murdered last night. There's still a traitor here. Yeah. Wait, someone was murdered after Sandra? No, straight with- Sandra wasn't the murderer, it's just that he has to be murdered.

Like, see, I couldn't play this game. I'd be like, no, everybody's gone, pre-let. Somebody's dead, Ronnie. Maybe they just choked. Maybe it was from, maybe the murderer from, maybe the trader from Traders UK came over and killed them by accident. Yeah, maybe it was just some accident.

Yeah. So, you know, Kate's like, well, Trishelle, I voted for, so they have to do another vote. And they don't talk before the vote. They don't make an appeal or maybe it was edited out. I actually think that was edited out because Kate said that she was gonna have to lie like crazy at the fire ceremony, but then they don't actually get to make any appeals. So I think they just were like, there's no point in showing

any kind of, you know, like final statements because it's so obvious. So Kate, Kate makes her vote and she goes, well, I voted for you, Trishelle, because I'd have ever someone out of the three of you and you're the person I would most think here's the trader. And honestly, you're also the person I want to throw. I want to throw your brain the fire the most. So, you know, I just had to think, who do I hate the most? Basically you. So basically Trishelle, I am the manager and I'm sick of you calling me. So I'd like to vote you out. Thanks.

This was super weird that she didn't come in with some kind of a plan here. I was surprised. I think she messed up. I think she messed up. Yeah, those two fuck up. So Kate is voted out, right? And she's out. So Trishelle's like, I've had it for you.

She doesn't even waste time with a monologue. And CT's like, yeah, you're at. And MJ is like, my dear Kate, blah, blah, blah. So she's out. And so it's sad. It's it's it is sad. And Kate leaves. And you know, she says some stuff like, you know, I don't really want would like to win this game by sharing money with people who are my friends. And I think all of you are my friends, but I'm a traitor. So good luck guys. Bye. So she's basically like, she, she gives like a little spiel about how, you know, she's happy.

She doesn't have to lie and back up. She gives us spiel that sort of puts a nice spin on it, but I just still fully believe that she just messed up. Yeah, it sucks. Um, so then is MJ, she's like, thank God, or you know, everyone's super happy because they're winning. So MJ is like, okay, this is it.

We got the traitor out. That means we're all faithful now and we're gonna split this money, right? So Alan's like, oh, poor Kate has been banished and she was a traitor once more. You may end the game here. Let's vote again. Kermit or miss Piggy

And so they vote again so MJ votes Kermit in the game and she's like I just if I'm wrong to love you guys I don't want to be right And then Trishelle and CT both vote to banish again And Trishelle's like there's 22 pictures on that wall and there's plenty of room for five traders especially when we got three one after another. There's someone that I have a suspicion about. A boom! Red flame. And MJ's face is just like, ah, red. She's like, oh my god guys, oh my god guys, red. Oh my god. Oh my god guys. Oh my god. guys. Red. Oh my God. Oh my God, guys. Oh my God.

Because I think at this point she's, well, I thought at this point she realized, shit, they're teaming up against me. But I don't think she even still even thinks that at this point. I don't know. Yeah. She's, I think she's just, I don't think she knows really what to think, you know, she's like, it was over. And so now these two are really coming out of the closet with being monsters. So CT's, she goes, red. Oh my God, why red? And CT's like, there's only one person here I'm willing to share that pot of gold with and done, done, done. So now they think there's traitors among them players. Let us vote for the final time. So now they just get to vote again, which is super weird. Yeah. They're going to vote well, final time. So now they just get to vote again, which is super weird.

Yes, they're gonna vote. Well, no, because they're gonna whittle it down. So MJ's like- I'm just like- There should be something, like they just voted. There should be able to have some discussion. Yeah, something. It was weird.

Voting again is weird. So MJ's like, fuck, this sucks. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I was like, please vote now, MJ. So she's like, shit, all right, all right, all right. Okay, okay. So now they reveal their votes. So CT is like, well, I chose MJ. It's nothing personal. I just wouldn't trust anyone in this council unless it's Trishelle Ghostwalks. And MJ is like, okay, well, I don't believe anyone here

should be banished. Trishelle, I voted for you to show that it was a Sophie's choice. So as soon as she votes Trishelle, you're like, fuck. Girl, if it's Sophie's choice, I'm rooting for the Dingo. Faker. It's a different movie, but that's fine. I'm fixing my Meryl Streep movies. Hey, Sophie's choice, I'm rooting for the bridge in Masson County. Sophie's choice I'm I'm rooting for the bridge in Masson County.

So so then that's in go eat my so Trichelle votes CT. So now they've all they basically all voted for each other. All they're all they're all aiming guns at each other. So now the Spider-Man meme. Yeah. And Spider-Man pointing at each other like the like a John movie. I feel like there's a scene in face off where that happened. So they are all doing that. And C.T. looks really sad at Trichelle that Trichelle would vote against him

because he was like, whoa, we're supposed to vote out M.J. because I thought they were going to vote at M.J. So the fact that went like in that circle, it was shot. And I was turned on C.T. Of I thought they were going to vote out MJ. So the fact that went in that circle was shocking. It was shocked that Trishelle turned on CT. Of course, not that shocking, really, because Trishelle's an asshole. So I don't think anybody watching this was shocked that Trishelle chose to banish CT.

I mean, I was at first, but then I was like, of course she's going to fuck him over. This girl who cries and then, you don't trust me. Then he gets her the shield and does all this stuff. Of course she's going to end up turning on you of fucking court is Trishal. Of course. So then Alan's like, we've got to do the drill. You must now go to one more time to attempt to break the dead look.

And I'm just like, we have to vote again. Just a lot of chalk tonight, guys. Yeah. So this time they do get to plead their case. Yeah. This time they get to please. So CT's, they can come on, I've been a good faithful like what the hell? Go out and we finish what we started for real.

Come on, Trishelle. She's like, well, but we had a plan and the plan was to vote at K. And then like whenever we got to the banishment room, you were like, Oh my God, I'm defending K. And then like you're saying Sandra did it. So like that's fish, a ACT, there is something wrong. He's like, yeah, but I also try to save you and protect you.

And like when we were in the tunnel, don't you remember the tunnel? Yeah. Like I was so like being in the big dig, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like the only one that let you get a shield. And like I've been following your game plan ever since. And MJ just like, wow, wow, wow. And he goes, you know, I forgive it, you know, and I'm sorry if I made you doubt how I felt about you.

You know, I never doubted you. And then she says, I just can't stop thinking about the sack, the fire sacrifice. Remember when you saved John over me when when you did that? I was like, and then I started to like, I started to like squeal because I was like, if this is the, if that fire, that torch ceremony is the thing that turns this. If she winds up voting out CT because of that torch, I started to crack up about how petty that would have been.

And then I was like, I want that. I want that stupid fire ceremony to come back and haunt CT. Yeah, but he was so not learning his lesson. He'd probably call and be like, oh, you know, I guess I deserve that one, huh? And also, didn't he just kind of prove that he's on her side by... He did. Voting against MJ? I know, I'm so upset that MJ voted to vote out Trishelle initially instead of CT because then she would have won.

You know? And actually, I forgot where I read this. Someone said that like CT and MJ actually had a very close relationship in the castle. That was maybe not as, it was not shown as much on TV, which is why she voted against Trishelle, because she was much closer with with CT. Yeah, but CT just voted to banish you two seconds ago. Why wouldn't you change your vote if you got CT? That's what I would have done, right? So you know that Trishelle doesn't trust him, that she's going to vote for him again possibly. I mean, come on, bro. So they have to now do the second, they have to vote again. Okay, so now CT votes for MJ again. And she's, MJ sticks with Trishelle. Which I'm with you, like switch over to CT

now that CT's voted for you. Not that it really would have mattered. Yeah. Right. But now, you know, of course Trishelle votes for MJ. And she's like, I'm just, it was just so hard for me. I just can't write down his name again. I just can't do it again. Oh God, shut up.

Shut up, Trishelle. Shut up. So Alan's like, MJ, you have received the most votes and are banished from the game. Leave. Are you a faithful or a traitor? She's like, I'm a faithful. You guys are stupid. I'm so heartbroken.

I'm not letting this go ever. 20 years from now, I will still be bringing this up, you cock-suckers. As she should. So she leaves and she's super salty and she's like, you know, she shouldn't have ended this way. She goes, I hope they regret it. We could have been celebrating the three of us. We all deserved it and I guess they just don't care. And she just sort of, she just goes off. And then Alan is like, are you faithful? Are you both faithful? And NCT is like, faithful, baby.

So clearly they just teamed up to get rid of MJ, right? Why were they cloaking it and all this like, so that's- Oh, but I didn't really mean to get rid of MJ. I mean, just feel like we're gamers. That's what we do. Why would we spend money with you, dummy? They're like, we hardly get any money in here.

You should have been smarter. I think that they clearly did. But what, well, what I can't figure out though is why would you flinch? Because if you flinch, you run the risk of one of you going home. Because by doing what they did, you know, if MJ had just voted the other way around,

CT would have gone home. Like they take, they lose all control by flinching. So I think Trishelle really did have a crisis of conscience unless CT had told, I don't know, CT would never tell MJ vote Trishelle off. I don't know, but either way. I think they were like, okay, when it comes down to the three of us, let's vote to banish again.

And we'll both banish MJ and then he just left. Right. Trishelle flinched. But either way, I do agree that even though it was pretty clear that they were all three traders, I mean all three, you know, faithful. Well, again, it's only clear to us because we're watching it. Like we know the answer. I don't know that it would be clear if I was there. And to be fair, like CT's logic is not terrible where he says, you know, honestly, I only trust Trishelle and I'm just not willing to risk it on any other person, you know, because if MJ had been a traitor, they would have looked like dumbasses. So, like, I get it, but it just was so, it was really, it was really mean.

I mean, it's the game, you know That's what you get that's what you get for the getting rid of the Bravo people I mean you just voted against Bravo people what the fuck do you think is gonna happen, you know and I mean I would have my feelings hurt too. I'm not saying she shouldn't have her feelings hurt But ultimately it's a game that you got rid of your numbers and you let these two fuckers keep their numbers And I can't believe that anybody would let Trishelle stay on the show, she's such a fucking monster. Yeah, and I mean, the lesson is learned for future players

of how you deal with those situations in the final four. You know, you have to really keep yourself safe. Even once you're down to like three faithful, you're not in the clear anymore. It's probably almost always gonna be two people at the end now. I think that was the lesson out of this. So then the show, so they win and- Also, Sarri didn't take this much shit last year.

I mean- Well, because we were rooting for Sarri. So last year, the two, it's funny, because we're like- Sarri was really mean last year. I mean, Sarri, Ari saved her ass last year. And she was gonna get kicked off. And from what I remember, Ari saved her.

And then she was like, well, and then she immediately turned on Ari. And Ari was like, you know, I'm not gonna play that kind of game. Take the money. I'm rich. Like take whatever you want. I've got enough money.

Yeah. And the audience was like, yes. And they were all happy for Sarri, but it didn't work out. Well, the funny thing is- I think because Sarri's likable, right? Like you said. And Trishelle's Trishelle.

And we all were like, aha, Andy and Quentin, you're idiots. You didn't put it at The funny thing is, I think history is likable, right? Like you said, and Trishel's Trishel. And we all were like, ah, Andy and Quentin, you're idiots. You didn't put it, Suri, you're so stupid. You should, they were doing, they were doing what they thought was the nice thing, which was like, the three of us are good. Let's share the money. And now we're like, oh, here are the three people.

Oh, you're such a dick. So you didn't, you're not sharing the money with the person that you think is good. When literally last season, we saw what happened when people put in too much faith in the third person. So, yeah. You can't trust people. Especially you can't trust fucking reality show people, okay?

But again, it would all be fine if Trishelle did not talk so much about like being faithful and good and yada yada. And then she cuts out MJ, who I think was very clearly a good person, but where I should say I'm faithful. So anyway, there was a reunion afterwards. We're not recapping the reunion because,

but we can give some thoughts on it. You watch the reunion. Yeah, of course, yeah. So like, well, first of all, there were two of us. First of all, it can see his boobs. Her boobs were in the background. Oh my God. They look beautiful.

I mean, she is so gorgeous, but there's something in those boobs. Yeah. And I don't mean like, no, they're fake They get beautiful. I mean, she is so gorgeous. But there's something in those boobs. Yeah. And I don't mean like, no, they're fake boobs. Like, I mean, I'm assuming everybody has fake boobs next to me, and I'm saving up. But it's not even about that. They just kept moving.

You know, like in the movie Alien, when there was an alien in that dude's stomach and it kept moving and then it popped out. They kept moving. I don't know if it's like she was flexing her pecs under there, but every time they showed the people below her, I was like, oh my God, what's going on? Her boobs were like dancing. I loved it.

It was like the best part of the show for me with those boobs. They were great, but boobs. You know, one thing is that like whenever Andy Cohen hosts a reunion, we're always joking about how it starts where he's always like hi Kim hi Theresa hi but since there are 22 people there's 22 cast members on the Traders it was like the first five minutes were like hi Janelle hi Dan hi King hi Deontay I was like oh my god really was so I didn't love the reunion.

Like it was watchable and everything, but like there were I wanted Andy to really like drill down and really go in on some of these people. And he really didn't get a chance to. I think it's because he had to cover so much ground. There were so many people to talk to, you know, there was so much and so little all at the same time. I mean it really was a clip show, you know The clips were too long by the way It was just too much like we just watched the whole show. We don't need all the clips

We don't need a five-minute reminder of what happened during the season three times So like these people aren't really getting paid enough to go at each other like housewives And so I think there was like some hesitation on their part to just fight it out I mean MJ of course is a Bravo person. So she came for a full Shaw's reunion where she's like, I'm not forgiving anybody out of the last two minutes of the thing. And that's when we have a buffet and do a shot. Like she's got it in her head how this whole thing goes and she's not going to forgive. And neither is Pedro. Like they're Bravo people to the core.

That was what was so good. That's what I loved about it because the gamers spend so much time patronizingly saying, like, yeah, I think that they're gamers. They don't understand. We don't take it personally. We're gamers. I'm like, well, you seem to be rather upset that they're in their feelings, but right now you're in the bravo space. And this is what bravo, like you do what great gamers do, but this is what bravo people do, which is they are salty at a reunion and they know how to show up at a reunion. Yeah. They give you a ship for it at the reunion. That's what it is.

MJ went, I loved when, uh, when MJ revealed that she had blocked both Trichelle and CT right afterwards. She goes, she goes, yeah, as soon as I walked out of that fire ceremony and I blocked both of them on Instagram and they're like, you block. Well, she goes, why wouldn wouldn't I why wouldn't I? And I was like, yes MJ, block them, keep them blocked. And Trishelle was getting so mad. Trishelle was like, she's like, why are you still upset? I can't believe you're still upset about it. Just a game. I'm like, you robbed her of

several thousand dollars unnecessarily and then you want her you complained about that fire torch. Oh my god. So going on against the fucking fire. I got the fucking flame that didn't impact you whatsoever for weeks on end. And then you just want MJ who just was robbed of several thousand dollars to just get a hundred percent. Yeah. No, Trishelle. But it was funny because MJ did show up so bitter.

I mean, it is kind of bad sportsmanship to just not be able to let it go. It is a game. And she showed up. Reality showed the forts again. She showed up. I'm so mad. I can't believe she was making snide comments every time they're like, yeah, well, congratulations.

She's like, yeah, jerks, horrible people. They're evil. Evil one. You know, I loved it. And then what like, yeah, jerks, horrible people. They're evil, evil one. I loved it. And then what also was funny was that Pedro was so nice. She was like, oh, you know, I love CT. He is my castle daddy.

And there's just a sweeper. It was wonderful playing with Sheregan. And what do you think about Dan? He's a piece of shit. What a piece of shit, Dan. He's a piece of shit. I thought he's a piece of shit. Because Dan is such a piece of shit.

You know, he still comes in here dance-planing every little thing, which makes me crazy. Like, you're officially terrible at this game. Everybody agrees. And even you agree that you weren't great at this game. But he still comes in like, in this game, this is how we do things in this game. And it's just so condescending, like you said.

It's a perfect word for these guys. So then he's explaining why he went against Phadra. And he's like, why would you turn against Phadra? And he's like, like you said, is a perfect word for these guys. So then he's explaining why he went against Phadra. And he's like, why would you turn against Phadra? And he's like, because you know, my back's up against the wall and that's what I do. And it's always worked. And this is the one time it didn't work and I'm getting in trouble.

Like I can't believe that people are taking this so personally. You fucked someone else's game. How is it not personal when you completely just turn against someone literally for no reason? For no reason, we didn't have to. Like there was no reason for you to pick her over. No, Harvard, Harvard or anyone else.

Harvard is the biggest snake and you fucking know, poverty is the biggest snake. So why would you turn against Phaedra first? So yeah, and I just don't. Easy. It's easy to say, don't take it personally when you're the aggressor in the situation. Absolutely. Also, there was like a nice moment where Andy, like, you know, spoke to Peppermint and Peppermint was talking about how difficult it is being a trans woman. And, you know, in these

sort of games, people come in with their own biases, which was a barely veiled dig at Trishelle, which I love. She didn't fully come out and say, this Karen bitch came after me because not only am I black, I'm trans as well. It's like a double whammy in someone like that's eyes. And then they go into the town square and they start making one little ruckus. And then before, you know, as the whole town is there with fucking pitchforks, you know, which is what happened. But she, she like tempered it. She was like, you know, like really thought it out and still Trishelle's just looking around like Trishelle is wearing for an elevator.

You know, she's wearing like corrugated steel, like, like aluminum siding. Oh, she looks like one of those, you know, those knife commercials late at night where they're like knives can cut through diet coke cans. That's what she looked like. She looked, she literally looked like a party, like a party favor, like a noisemaker or something like that or like that. It's like, you know, like the middle, it's like coming up. She looked ridiculous.

She did not. I don't think she really understood what peppermint was saying. And I was disappointed that Andy was not, did not say, did not like go in on the thing that outraged all of us, which is that peppermint had like a normal reaction to Trishelle. It was like a very regular reaction. And Trishelle acted likeppermint was super mad. Well, that's the thing.

I mean, this isn't just like, oh, you got rid of the black trans person first. That's why you're a Karen. Okay, that would have been fishy on its own, but that's not really what it was. It was that Peppermint made a funny comment and Trishelle's like, oh my God, Peppermint's like coming from you guys.

Peppermint's so aggressive. Like how aggressive she is. She's like hostile. And God, peppermint's like coming from Eli. I remember so aggressive. Like how aggressive she is. She's like hostile and it was just a microaggression of it all. And then the, the insistence like this, this, the, the way she acted in at the roundtable, it just left us all feeling really icky. And I just felt like that was a drop ball. I really wanted Andy to confront Trishelle with that. Yeah.

And then Trishelle tried to make a funny about it later because Trishelle was talking about how her strategy, she says on the show that her strategy is to lay low and then in the middle of the game, she's gonna start calling out people. And Andy's like, wow, you really did follow that strategy? She goes, I know, except for Peppermint. And in the beginning, of course Peppermint,

you know, like of course I, with you, you know, that's what happened. And Peermint just looking at her like, I'm not gonna laugh that off. Don't laugh funny, bitch. Not funny at all. Yeah. So some of that stuff, you know, what else happened? Oh, like the pager and Dan thing where Dan's just like,

what, why is he even taking these two personals? She's like, he's a piece of shit. I love that. In this game, you can't take things personally. You know, you say things and you do things, you do what you can do to get to the end. And then he made a tweet later. Made a tweet, he tweeted something later.

He asked, later he asked. And he was like, I hope you guys enjoyed this because this is the last time you're gonna see this face on reality TV again. So a lot of people were like, oh, is he mad because he got yelled at or he got, you know, yelled, just trolled off by Phadra. I guess I just did the same thing, right?

Y'all are taking every phrase, but he just got like told off by Phadra. And so people are like, is he a big wuss or whatever? And people are like, no, he had already retired from the game. I think it's being a wuss. I think he's like, this isn't how you play. This isn't how real play is play. You know what, Dan? You don't have reunions for big brother. Also, you haven't how real play is play. You know what, Dan, you don't have

reunions for Big Brother. Also, you haven't been called back. You don't know. That's exactly right. Certainly, people have been pissed at you before. It's not the first time. All these CBS shows, now I haven't watched the challenge in forever, so I don't know what their reunions are like, but I can tell you right now, the reunions on Big Brother and on Survivor are absolutely nothing compared to a Bravo reunion. So it's like, they do. But Big Brother and on Survivor are absolutely nothing compared to a Bravo reunion. So it's like they do. They do have Big Brother reunion?

No. No, well, meaning that like, you know, at the end of the finale, Julie Chen asks some little questions. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But and like Survivor has usually a full one hour reunion show, but like they don't know, they don't know what it's like. And so if you want to talk about, you know, if you want to condescend to the Bravo stars about like,

this is what it's like to be a gamer. Well, this is what it's like to be a Bravo star. And you just stepped talk about, you know, if you want to condescend to the Bravo stars about like, this is what it's like to be a gamer. Well, this is what it's like to be a Bravo star. And you just stepped into there, Arena now. Okay. You lost. Also, Larsa and Marcus were there. Larsa, I feel like Larsa may have a new chin.

I don't know, but they're just like talking. Larsa's like, yeah, I think I was like onto Dan like, like X, Y, Z and this and that. And then like in the middle of it, Andy goes, by the way, what's going on with you two? Yeah, I think we're just like learning each other a little bit. And we're just like trying to like figure it out like and like, we're just like taking it one day at a time. Like, I feel like, you know, and like, you know, it's like, I feel like it.

We're just like, we really need to like feel like it. Yeah. I'm know. We really needed to feel like it. Yeah, I'm just like, yeah. Feel like. Feel like. What else happens? There's Fedra, there was, Janelle didn't really do much. She righted. I think the big thing was just.

It kind of cracked me out, because Andy's like, well Kate, you hated playing this game the first time. Why would you come back? She's like, I'm a mother now. I was like, oh my God. Kate's become that person where she's like, I'm a mother, I do everything for my child.

But I did like that. She's like, and this is the only time I get to get away from that fucking thing. I know. I was actually gonna say I needed to earn money for him and I realized it's more than just me, it's about my child and I need to support him. I was like, oh God, boring.

But when she was just like, I just wanted to have a good night's sleep. Yeah. Um, what else? Yeah. Huge happen in this reunion. Nothing huge. That's like jumping to my mind, like poverty. Talked about poverty did not work.

John, John was annoying with his, oh yeah. Well, peppermint, you must understand that at the moment, of course, it was a bad choice, but you're holding your head up high as you Because we made the best choice based on the evidence presented and that's where I was like we're There was no evidence and this is where I said that it goes and that was very little Okay, well, that's all you need to say though I don't need a monologue from your only evidence you had was an exaggerated to say, though, I don't need a monologue from your ass. The only evidence you had was an exaggerated claim

of aggression by Trishelle. And that there is the problem is that in situations where there is very little evidence, people just blindly trust people like Trishelle, who totally weaponize, you know, people of color. So then what were you gonna say about Parvati before I said really? Oh, I think it was that Parvati was shocked to find out that she makes that face. She's like, yeah, I didn't realize I make that face all the time until the show and

everyone was making fun of me for it. Well, the show made me like Parvati. I do like Parvati. Well, Parvati is great. I didn't dislike her before I didn't watch her season. So I don't know. Well, she has multiple seasons and they're all worth watching. Um, but, uh, yeah, the reunion was, was entertaining, but, uh, we did not need. Like five different five minutes segments, showing us what happened in the season. Didn't need it. We needed more time digging in, confronting people with the things that they did wrong. And, um, yeah, I think. All right.

So. Well, this was a fun season. Wonderful. It's a great. Or is amazing. Amazing show. I hope it wins all the Emmys. Yeah.

Well, we'll see everybody. Thank you. We'll be here again probably next season, I would imagine. Yeah. Um, Bravo's changing over again. Lots of new shows coming up. Top Chef is coming back. Wow.

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