Watch What Crappens - #2371 PumpRules Part One: She’s a Maxxonista

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

On this week’s Vanderpump Rules, Katie doesn’t even have time to pout when she finds out that her ex swapped some spit with Scheana over a decade ago because Schwartz finds out that she did a little more with his “best friend” under a week ago. Whoops. Grab tickets for the Netflix is a Joke Fest in LA and our European tour at watchwhatcrappens.com Watch this recap as a video and get our bonus episodes at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens  Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Crapins, the podcast for All That Crapin. We just love to talk about. I'm Yeo Broves. I'm Ronnie. I'm here with my good friend, the love of my life, Ben. Ben. Ben Mandelker. Hello, Ben. Hi. Hi, how are you? Hi, Ben. I love your shirt. Ben is wearing a shirt with cedar trees on them. Do you know that that's the true? Well, is that a cedar tree? It is right. I think it's, I don't know. I think it might be just like a regular conifer. Maybe just a fir tree. Well, I'm going to look up cedar trees right now. That's the tree of Lebanon.

This is like my alpine kind of shirt. It has like cabins on it and trees on it. I'm going to go with cedar tree because Ben is wrapping Lebanon today. What? Tree of Lebanon. Haller. Ben is all dressed up and he's sitting in front of a New York skyline because he's in New York City.

I am sitting in my regular house skyline, so that's what I'm doing. Now I'm staring at Cedar Trees on the internet. Snow falling on the show, everybody. Today is Vanderpump Rules Day. We're going to get to that supersized episode in just a moment. But first, come check us out, our live shows. We've got an intimate live show for the Netflix Comedy Festival. Comedy's a joke.

That's in Los Angeles in May. And then in May, we're going to Europa, London. Birmingham and Dublin. So join us. Get your tickets over at watch what crappins.com. This is a video recap. You can find it on Patreon. Doing for every show. You can also find them a week later over on YouTube. If you just, I don't know, want to go through thousands of hours of archives, you're welcome to do so. Also, bonus episodes are on Patreon. This week is a trailer trash. It's where we break down a trailer. This week is Jersey, the new season of Jersey. A lot of ruffles, a lot of yelling, a lot of accents, a lot of divorces, a lot of fighting, a lot of food throwing.

Teeth. Teeth. Huge teeth. Huge teeth. Huge. Huge bleach white teeth. Not sure what's happening with the teeth in this country. But it's disturbing.

I'm disturbed at this point. I would like to give also a shout out. The reason why I put on a shirt that's more interesting than my typical generic t-shirt is because I just did, I recorded two. podcasts here in the city. First, I went on to the Elvis Duran 15-minute morning show podcast. So that should be dropping. It might already be out by now. I think it's a daily podcast. So go check out Elvis Duran. If you are a New Yorker and you listen to Z100, you know Elvis Duran. And then also I just did a guest spot on a show called Serial Killers. We met the Serial Killers guys at the I Heart Awards.

they do a podcast about cereal trying cereal so uh i went on i tried a cereal it was a it was like a hybrid episodes we just kind of talked about cereal we talked about reality tv we talked about board games so it's just kind of like a chat so check out both of those things uh on elvis durand we talked about real housewives and all that fun stuff it was so fun thank you to both podcasts for having me and you know uh go check it out so yeah support other women okay exciting times of it there you know what i'm glad you're having fun in this open relationship i'm cheating on ronnie with elvis duran hope you're having fun with that um so everybody uh welcome to vanderpump rules this is one of those episodes where nobody looks good and i love

that kind of an episode uh where everyone's just kind of an asshole in it and it reminds you why we watch a show because you all suck okay all of you all suck and i fucking love it i love it when it's like that i love it when it's like that i love it when there's not just one person to root for. And you're just kind of rooting against everybody. At least that's how I felt. I was like, by the end of this, I was like, oh, yeah, you all fucking suck. You're all fucking monsters.

And I can't wait to rip on every single one of you. This was a great episode. It was really entertaining. But it was also great because it was our first, like, true petty Vanderpump rules episode of the season because the first half the season has grappled with, oh, Tom Sandoval how do we be friends with Tom Sandoval how do we met be friends with Ariana how do we do this what how does this group move forward from the trauma of last season but they've kind of now like they've established what the

group dynamic is and like let's get back to petty bullshit so now we have an episode that's just about gossip and rumors and cheating and indiscretions and it's classic Vanderpump rules and hypocrisy and about holding things against people from a fucking 12 years ago I mean it's It's just everything that we love. And a random below-deck crossover that's totally unexplained. But we'll get to that. Yeah.

And of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. He's friends with Katie. I can't with the fucking below-deck guy who runs down the street giving people high-fives. I mean, can it just, you know, everything just comes together in this episode. And he's like, it's like the Sousley was finally baked.

I was like, thank God. Because, you know, there are so many seasons of Vanderpump rules where we're just like, my God, this is going to suck, isn't it? And then as it starts to suck more, we're like, oh, my God, surely it's not going to suck the whole season. And then it sucks the whole season. And then there are seasons where you're like, this is amazing and it stays amazing. You know, there's peaks and valleys. You know, we all get it.

We've all been in relationships with TV shows. Right, guys? But this one, I was like, I'm not sure about this. And it's pulling through. You know, it's pulling through, guys. I'm into this season. I have to say, I'm really into it. I think it's so good.

And this episode was wonderful. It was great. It was the episode, the exact episode we needed. We may have to even bookmark this episode as a potential live show down the road, like for those days where we need like to do a vintage episode or like we just have to like, the reason why, here's the reason why, because the Tom Sandeval breathing exercise moment was so hilarious. I was literally laughing at loud watching him doing his breathing exercises. I was like, this was epic.

Yeah, it's definitely one of those episodes where you're like, well, we're in L.A. This show is definitely in L.A. I was reading Vanderpod Recaps as I do on Instagram because she recaps all of the extra podcast because everybody on this show has a podcast now. So to really know what's going on, you have to go listen to 20,000 podcasts, which of course I'm not going to do, you know. But thanks to this account, I get to know. But this is another reminder. This is from Dana and Katie's podcast, which is called Disrespectfully.

There's something about disrespectfully here. So they are talking about how Raquel's been outing Logan, like, oh, Logan knew. Like, Raquel is still finding a way to make every single episode about Tom Sandoval. I don't know why that's surprising since everybody else on the cast is still able to do this every single day of their lives. talk about the scandal. But they're talking about it, Dana and Katie, how Raquel is blaming everybody else. Like, oh,

well, Logan must have known. So Logan is a bad friend because Logan walked in on us cuddling. You've heard this, right? So this line is from it, and it's just so L.A. So they were under a blanket, and Logan saw them. And Katie says, in a social media room,

not the bathroom. Dana says, yeah, in a social media room, not the bathroom. A social media room. That's a thing that people have a fucking Twitter room. So LA. I do remember that Tom set up a whole like Zoom room and that was like a thing during the pandemic that he was like very proud of his like perfectly appointed social media

room. And then there's another one in here where Dana is saying. Yeah, I'm really mad at Sheena because Sheena went on Juicy Scoop, the Juicy Scoop podcast and she talked about a threesome that almost happened and it didn't almost happen. That really hurts my feelings that she would go like talk about a threesome like don't she me for a three-sum. She's like this whole thing. I was like it's like being back in West Hollywood. And then she says something like, so wait, when did that happen, Katie? Was it before or after my nose job? I was like, oh my God. How am I not listening to this? Oh my God. God bless this show. So the

opens up. God bless this mass. God bless this mass. God bless Southwest Airlines for their judicious flight schedule that goes right over James and Ali's house because we's the very first thing we see is that airplane. So no, we know where we're going next. I mean, I think it's Alibali's house. Every time I see a Southwest plane fly overhead. I'm like, oh, better go dress Ali Bali. This is literally the funniest thing that the post-production department on this show has ever done is the repeated visual cue of the Southwest airline flight going overhead. It is just, it cracks me up every single time. It just shades James and Alley week after week after week.

So James is on, you know, he's putting another brickdown on his long and windy path to becoming a creepy knife-wielding lifetime husband, lifetime movie husband. And we find out that James dresses Alley. And she's like, yeah, I don't. like picking out my clothes because it's really hard so james does it he's like how about this sally belly little bobby moment bobby's here right now i think this looked really cute on you so uh yes i made fun he steams my dresses for me and he doesn't curl my hair yet but i always joke because we're working up to that this guy i mean when you talk about playing house he is literally

playing house. He is dressing up his girlfriend, putting up their proverbial white picket fence. It's all going to come shattering down. Like next season is going to be the James and Allie chaos season. Yeah, I don't know. I never see it coming. Like I really never saw it coming with Raquel. I was completely shocked by that one. So I will be surprised. James is still like, James, talk about peaks and valleys. James goes, he has his disaster seasons and then he has his I'm a good little boy seasons. And in the good little boy seasons, he likes to manufacture an image of himself and his girlfriends and like whatever's going on.

Like we're just a perfect family that's moved. We're moving on and we're adults now and everything is good and there are no problems whatsoever. And then, of course, it teeters into disaster the following season. So next season. It turns into some fucking like ice cream replacement therapy for addiction. Yeah. And it just all. I mean, I've never seen somebody so sad eating ice cream.

Now I've seen somebody sad. while they're eating ice cream, but I've never seen somebody eating ice cream in a way, like, I have to eat this ice cream or I can't be happy. You know what I mean? Like, I've never seen somebody. Usually people are sad and then they eat the ice cream to feel better. James was eating it, you know, because it was like a replacement for drugs and stuff, which, you know, don't treat ice cream like that.

I feel like ice cream deserves its own respect and its own addiction. It's not replacement therapy. It's not something we shouldn't be grateful for. Whenever you fucking have ice cream, you need to be goddamn grateful for it. I'm always grateful for ice cream. Me too. That's why it was so disturbing. Yeah.

It's hard to watch it. I would pick out an outfit for my ice cream and curl its hair and let that ice cream sing what was I made for because I love it that much. I would spend a million and a half dollars to live under an airplane path. If it meant letting with ice cream. Yeah. I would literally do everything that James does for ice cream. I would do it all. I love it.

I love ice cream so much. I love ice cream. I'm obsessed. So he is, um, and remember he was going to that place it was like, I don't know. I didn't trust the place that he was going for ice cream or something. Yeah, where they would have like, oh, it's like, um, what am I trying to say? Savory ice creams or like they make mint ice cream. It's not like the sweet mint ice cream.

It's like natural mint crushed up with, ugh. No, no. Give me fucking real ice cream. Don't fucking fake fish. shit, you know? I don't know why I'm cursing like this today, you guys. I'm sorry. Are you any kids in the car? I'm going to say this because now you brought this up. Don't, if you're making mint ice cream, don't make it from steeped mint leaves. No. It's not going to work. Mint extract. It should taste like a

peppermint patty. People have worked for literal centuries. People have worked for literal centuries to process food. Okay, that's not something that just happened. Can we stop shitting all over processed food? They're making an effort. You know, it's so funny that you just said that literally as I'm recording here, I'm like, hey, I just got an email for myself. How did that happen? And I forgot that I had scheduled an NPD fancy where I talked about making grill cheese. And I am putting forward that you had to make grilled cheese with American cheese.

It's, you know what, processed food. Well, that's shameful. No. That on the other hand is, okay, you just ruined this whole segment. Grill cheese. Go ahead. Just edit this out. Just start with.

Come to Europe. We're going to Europe. Ali-Balli. Ali, never with American cheese, Ali-Balli. Bobby's having a moment. Bobby's having a moment. American cheese on your grilled cheese, everyone. That's a place for processed food.

I was trying to support your processed food thing, and you just, you shut the out. It has its place, you know what I mean? Grill-chis. American cheese. I'm sorry. I'm just fucking with you. You know, I'm a big fan of Valvita and Mac and Cheese.

Yeah. I thought you were going to be so 100. percent in favor. I just wanted to watch you slowly spiral. And then you were like, you were like, no. I was like, what? If you watched the video, you can probably see me look so confused. Like, did Brian just say no to American cheese on a grilled cheese?

I did. I was going to see if I could make you spiral. You did. It's all starting and it felt good. I'm not going to like. I mean, American cheese. I love you. I love you so goddamn much.

You're my little American cheese. You're my crazy. So James stops for Allie creepy and nobody's, surprised. So now the conversation turns to Joe and James is like, so you're inviting Joe to Hotel Ziggy, which we're really making, I mean, people are really making this Hotel Ziggy happening or happen on the show. Hotel Ziggy looks like a best Western with the DJ. Is that what it was? Actually, I think it was the Grafton Hotel. Sorry, it's next to the best Western. Was the Grafton a hotel, a best Western? No, it was a hotel that was based off of the books of Sue Grafton.

No, I'm just kidding. It's like, H is for hotel room. R is for room service. R is for what? Room service. She was killed by A for American C's. Ali Bally.

Ali, we don't eat American cheese here. We're trying to be a good family for TV. Last time I came to L.A. I was like, maybe I'll stay in Hotel Ziggy, because that would be camp, you know? It's like, it's always on VPR. And that would be fine. I was reading the reviews and just laughing my ass off because it's, you know, a best western with a DJ stand in the middle, like I just said.

So as people like, so I'm staying in this hotel and they were literally playing club music outside my door, like in. Basically in the hallway, you know. I, yeah, I don't know. I want to check it out. I want to see it because it's now part of like Vanderpump rules. But I have, it reminds me that awful hotel we stayed in. in Chicago. It was like a day's in that was trying to be like Hotel Ziggie.

And it was like the worst hotel at all time. The worst. The worst. The worst. Okay, so, um. He's playing at Hotel Ziggi. And so James is like, tonight I'm DJing at Hotel Ziggy. It's a party to be at the Sunset Boulevard.

And there's not like, oh, it's not like, oh, you can come and you can come. Like everyone can come. It's everyone's invited to my parties. I show up a DJ crew, DJ equipment and a crowd, you know, Ali-Bally on my side, ice cream on my hand. And you'll have the best business your place has had a long time. So get ready, Hotel Ziggy. 13 more people come into your courtyard tonight.

Yeah, because Allie's like, did you invite Joe to come to Hotel Ziggy? I hope everyone's not mad about that. And he's like, of course I invited her. I'm a fucking DJ. Okay, a DJ is even lower in the ranks than being an improviser. You're begging your friends to come to your show. I don't give a fuck if somebody cheated on you right in front of your fucking children.

I'm inviting them to my show. I have to have people there. Okay. Improv doesn't run itself. Meet an audience there. It's not yes. It's yes and. It's like your friends who are comics, which we have plenty of, who are just like, you guys want to come to my birthday?

It's also a comedy show. You're like, God damn it, you tricked me into this. Constantly getting tricked my people into going to their shows. Yeah. So Ali's talking about how the last time she was at Hotel Ziggy, she had that awkward first meeting with Raquel and we see that from a year ago and Ali's like yeah Raquel

I appreciate you guys this relationship because he'd be a completely completely different if you didn't have you and Raquel's like huh wait a second that was actually mean wait a second so then James was like a lot has changed since then that's for damn sure

right she's like yeah a lot has changed since then James. He's like literally everything, put on these shoes. Okay. This is so pincies of me. So then we go over to Tom and Ariana's house and, oh God, what a gift. It's Billy Lee back on our TV's. Jesus Christ, speaking of things nobody asked for, okay? Get off of my television. I did not ask you here. Go, go away. Shoot. Well, she is here. Billy Lee has arrived. And she's like, hey! And Sandeball's like making his bed. And she's like, wow, it's like clean in here.

And he's like, uh, yeah, it is. And she's like, yeah, like, every time I like come and go from her house, I just get like so fucking nervous. And he's like, why? Because like, Arianna. Who? He's like, everybody has a roommate, right? My roommate of 10 years, get it.

Get it. This is line. You're hilarious. You're hilarious. You're hilarious, Tom. So they're talking about Hotel Ziggy. The whole town is a buzz with talk of Hotel Ziggy. You're going to Ziggy to go to the HZ tonight.

So Billy Lee is really trying to make her friend Tee a thing. She's like, yeah, I'm bringing my girl tea. You remember Tee? There's the girl you didn't talk to at your party. Let's do it again. Let's go try it a second time. And we see a flashback of him doing his line that you just did about like the having a roommate. That's my ex-girlfriend of 10 years, which last week he did the same line but to girls in the pool.

So he's just using this line wherever he can. Yeah, this is him like being hilarious. It's like, I'm sure you've all heard. And this time, the girls were like, yeah, we've heard. Like this time they hated him, which I liked. Because last week they showed the girls looking awkward, but they were also like, oh, I mean, I guess we're on TV. And these girls were like, we hate you. We're just here to hate you on TV.

So. Yeah. By the way, did you hear that he doesn't pay that? Remember how he had that bartender last week? Well, she apparently came out on TikTok or one of them internet sites, them websites on the internet. Yeah. And was like, yeah, Tom Sandoval just calls you his friend so he doesn't have to pay you because I'm not even his friend. And he didn't pay me for bartending as a friend.

Wow. There you go. Typical. Shocker. Yeah. Blow me down. That one shocked me. It's time for a commercial.

It's time for a crappence commercial. So, so he's talking with Billy Lee and everything. And he's like, well, I don't know what's going on, Ariana. But I love this house. And it's like a great house. But, like, I mean, the ball's in her court. She has to just, like, respond to an email. So we have, like, some sort of, like, plan of action, dude.

Yeah. He wants to keep this house. and she does not want him to have it because he wants it so bad, you know? But she's kind of team Ariana on that one. Why should he get the fucking house? What if that's her dream house too? Yeah.

Cough it up, sir. Although in the news we found out this week that Ariana just bought a $1.6 million home in the Hollywood Hills. Yeah. To which I say that's cheap. It's a good deal. I know.

I was like, enjoy your shack. Enjoy your decrepit garage with the bed in it. Because 1.6 million In the Hollywood Hills, wow. It's cheap, right? I think anywhere in LA, that's pretty cheap. So, yeah, real estate.

Am I right, guys? I'm a real expert loving Redfin these days. Like, I was a Zillow person. Then Zillow started fucking it up. Then I became a Realtor.com person. And right now I'm really into Redfin. So I'd like to thank them for everything they do for me. Yeah, it's great.

They do great work. Great work. Did I think that maybe they were a website? site about seafood purveying that I think I could maybe get some order some scallops from there perhaps but it turns out redfin real estate only bullied ones only ginger ones we're only we're only serving red-headed fish who were bullied in school oh I see very specific only fish that have had a hard knock life all right the scallots like maybe far away

I don't know why I started that so high It's like I don't even know my own Yeah come on Ronnie My own range You gotta get yourself someplace to move into there You gotta move Dude I know we gotta get to the big chorus people So Billy Lee's like

Well no day you need to jump into another relationship But my girl Tee you know Like she's my girl she's my girl T's my girl T So like maybe I should get with my girl T you know what I mean? And he's like Well I did just wash my Jeez. Oh, you're meowing it today.

Oh, well, like, I mean, at least, if you didn't live with your ex-girlfriend like you do, you know, you could have people over. He's like, oh, roommate joke, roommate jokes. Like, oh, you're so hilarious. Why is Billy Lee so intent on getting tea together with Sandoval? I think it just makes, I guess it elevates Billy Lee's position a bit. Yes, because it gets her on the show. It gives her an anchor on the show, you know. She got them together.

So she's the one that you go talk to whenever something's wrong with tea. You know, you go have a discussion with Billy Lee. What the fuck is tea hanging out with all these old people for? That's a great question. That does come up a little bit later. So then on the other side of the house, we see Ariana getting ready. And she FaceTime's Ann. Anna is getting ready to go to Taylor Swift.

Anna's like, hey, wow. So excited to get a phone call right now. It's Ariana. Wow, this is exciting. Please tell me I don't have to come over there and clean up dog poop because I'm going to Taylor Swift and I spent $2,500 to sit in the parking lot. Please tell me. You're so beautiful. My God, I love looking at you right now on FaceTime.

I'm going to go see Taylor Swift tonight, but I put your face on her. I put your face on her body on this t-shirt. Do you like it? I hope you like it. You know what? Sometimes when I think of you, you know, what I do, I say, it's me. Hi, I'm not the problem. It's me because you're not the problem.

You're actually the hero, not the anti-hero. Oh my God, don't you love it? I call myself weird, weird Anne Yankovic sometimes when I do this with songs. I'm a little weird. So, Ariana's like, oh, love it. Lavender Hays vibes. Love that. So I wanted to ask you a couple of questions.

Anything, anything you want? I will come over. You want me to come over? I'll come over right now. I'm under your desk. Look under your desk. Just kidding. I could be, though.

If you invited me, I wouldn't come with you. Didn't invite me. That would be weird. Do you want a friendship bracelet? I made it a beaded bracelet for Taylor Swift. I don't know, but I can give it to you, Ariana, whatever you need. Do you want my ticket? I don't need to, I don't even like Taylor Swift anymore.

You go, you go in my place. It'll be like I'm there. Lava. Okay, you're getting creepy right now. I'm just saying I'm getting ready, but I'm going to leave him 45 minutes, so I just need to know is Tom downstairs? Oh, for Christ's sake. Stop being scared of Tom's downstairs. Here's what you do.

Get yourself a super soaker or a stun gun, but I was- Super Soaker. I don't even know what this is going. I would start with a Super Soaker. Leave Anne alone. It's bad enough that Anne has to clean up Tom's shit all over the place without having to go spy for you and find out if you have to walk in the same room as Tom. Fuck that. Get you a super-soaker and spray his stupid ass whenever he's in your way.

He should be the one hiding, not you. Yeah, so, Anne. So, like, I feel like I'm on the verge of full burnout, so I need an assistant. So I was going to ask, do you know anybody? She's like, oh, my God, an assistant? Oh, my God. Hey, can I be in the running, please? Can I, or can I just run?

Can I run? Am I allowed to run right now? I forget, am I allowed to do this? Please, can I be your assistant instead of Tom's? I would love that so much. Can I be in the running? Like, running to your house, which I am. Oh, my God, I'm running to your house.

Look outside. I'm here. We will never, ever. ever be not Boston Assistant because we're going to be Boston Assistant. That's what I'm trying to say. You made a double-knit. I'm so sorry. And she's like, of course you can, Anne.

And she tells us, Anne so sweet. You know, she deserves more than having to put up with Tom, you know. But I don't know if I'm the one to do it, but someone needs to save Ann. Hashtag save Anne. Save her. And she's like, but, but you know, oh, Arian is like, you know, look,

I don't want him to get pissed because that's not cool like poaching his assistant, you know. She goes, but I want to work with you so bad. Please. Yeah, I totally understand. Yeah, it's fine. I'm just going to go cry at the Taylor Swift concert now. It's all totally ruined.

By the way, I have to, can I tell you something? Can I confess something? So I had a huge amount of FOMO that I didn't see the ERA's tour. And I just am like, I want to go. and she's going to New Orleans. The ERIS tour is still going to keep going. Would it be wild if I bought myself a solo ticket to see the Taylor Swift ERIS tour in New Orleans?

Oh my gosh, do it. Is that wild? They're so expensive, but I kind of feel like when I went to the Madonna concert, I was like, this concert's amazing, but I can only imagine what it must have been like to see Madonna at her peak, like a blonde ambition. And I was like, you know what?

I don't want to like see Taylor Swift in 25 years and imagine what it must have been like to have gone to an iconic concert tour. So I think I'm going to do something wild and take myself to New Orleans and buy a solo ticket off the secondary market. It's going to be a huge amount of money. Is this wild? Is this crazy? Should I do this?

Go for it. Do it. Live your best life. Okay. I think I'm going to do it. Yeah. I'll live your best life. Okay.

I'm going to do it. Yeah, go for it. Why not? Okay. People will now be like, hey, I live in New Orleans. But let's part. party and you guys can like have a Taylor Swift party. I imagine there'll be like a bunch of 22 year old girls and you guys can go just like party in it.

I'm going to dress like Anne. And like, hey, Ariana, I'm at going to the Taylor Swift concert. Don't worry. I'll just be a- Listen, I took a road trip one time to see Liza Minnelli in Atlanta with some girls from into the woods. Okay. Listen, I'm not going to tell you not to live your dreams. Okay.

I will do it. I saw some amazing scarf work that night. Was it Liza's best vocal work? No, she's had a rough road. But she did play with scarves a lot and jump over them and twirl them. It was amazing. And 100 degree heat. I mean, she still got it.

And it's like Liza says, you got to ring them bells. I'm going to ring the bells and stub hub. Ben, ring them bells. Okay. Okay, everyone in New Orleans, I'm going to Taylor Swift. So, and it's like, please let me work for you. for you. And then we go over to Schwartz meeting La La for smoothies at a place called Creation, but with a K, because God forbid you try and steal from the Lord.

No, well, you know what's healthy for you because they turn the C into a K. And K is an inherently healthier letter than C apparently. Really? Well, it's not called special C. that's true so Schwartz is like I love this place whoa whoa by the way I'm in the midst of a sober bender it's not crazy because you know like can we do some syringes yeah get it because it's a bender it's a bender of sobriety I want to know who the shirtless guy was who was in that creation

like how do you just walk just shirtless into a juice shop I mean I get it but like people in L.A. are ridiculous so I'm sorry, did that happen before, after my nose jump? Just trying to get this timeline down. So they're ordering at creation. By the way, I've been to creation, and if you get like water there, it's like green. It's got like chlorophyll in it. It's so L.A.

It's so L.A. Wow. So he's like, you should have some dry strawberries. They're so good. They're like strawberries, but they're dried. And she's like, okay. they look like dates. Sounds like shets.

Sounds like I'm going to shets. Like, hey, can I order some? I'm going to shets. He goes, wait, well, we're on a date? She goes, no, they look like dates. Not we're on a date. He's like, just kidding about it. I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding. I was pretending like you were Joseph for a second. Ha, joking, we're on a get date. So they go outside. They do these like syringes that have, I guess they're sober syringes. I don't know what they really are. And he's like, oh, let's do these

because, ah, you can't do jobs. dollar shots across the tree to tom tome, tom with me. Oh, I'm a cute little boy. And Lala's like, no, I cannot sk. So they do it. And Lala is like joking about... She's like, he squirted on me. Whenever I feel awkward, I talk about my vagina.

Sex. It's not a great quality. So, have you ever had sober sex? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have sober sex. Like when I'm a relationship, I have sober sex. Oh, yeah, I love sober sex. It's really good. Wait a second.

Wait a second. Did you say sober sex or sobering sex? Because Katie and I had very sobering sex. I would have sex with Katie and then I would immediately feel sober. Is that weird? I would cry. And then all of a sudden, all my decisions I'd ever made in my life would come into stark relief. Yeah.

Very sobering stuff. Yeah, you know, let's go more down the sobriety path because it's hilarious, you know, when you're talking to a sober person and just disregarding their sobriety, like, So funny that you're sober because like I'm kind of sober too like I'm addicted to being sober sometimes Like sometimes I'll be like not sober but then I'm like you know what what's gonna feel like being fucked up being sober So then I get sober like like I'm sober for like five minutes. It's so hilarious I'm like on like a sober bender right isn't that so fun aren't I just like saying things that you as a server person Are not gonna get really mad at me saying like with my with my non alcoholism privilege isn't that how you feel my

My non-alcoholism privilege. I understand what he means in a way because when I started kind of sobering, it did feel like a different kind of being wasted because I just wasn't used to being awake all day. I would be like, wow, I would watch an entire show on TV at night and be like, I just watched a whole show. Like, I have sleeping issues. I can't sleep. I can't sleep.

It's like, babe, you're not taking anything. I love that you, I love, that's how you, that's how you reason yourself. Bib. I do. I have to talk myself down. I'm single all the time. I have to talk to myself. I have to be like,

this isn't that important. Everything is okay. Your heart racing. Take your blood pressure. You can do this. Chee, chew, chew, chew, chew. We're going to have some cereal right now. Chew, chew, chew.

Special say. I just felt like I had to imagine that as like to someone who is like a sober person and putting in like the work in the effort of having to be sober to like Lala to have someone to say. like, man, I'll have to binge on like being sober in a way that's like, I have to imagine that must be annoying to hear like this, like acting like you're like you're going through like you're experiencing this novelty of an experience when this is actually what like Lala's life is now. I have to, I personally think I would be annoyed. But then again, I'm not in Lala's

shoes. Well, yeah, because people start flailing around acting like idiots around a sober person because it feels like you're judging that person. I have to, I think that to a non-sober person, it feels like, oh, you're sober. That means you think I'm an alcoholic, right? So it's all this dancing all over it. Like, oh, well, you're sober. I love sobriety. Like, I try that out sometimes.

Yeah, sobriety's great. Love sobriety. You want to go across the street and have jealous shots? Just kidding. We're going to do shots here because they're healthy. I love sobriety. This is so fun. God, I love it.

And like, you turn into fucking Shannon Bedore, you know, being across from a sober person. And I think that's what he's doing. Also, I think that, like, binging on sobriety, like, that is inherently. not sober to do that because the binge implies that eventually like you stop being stop doing that so that's inherently not like a sober thing it's just like you are just not drinking for a few days and like that's that doesn't mean you binge on sobriety it just means you just happen dry just you're not

just not drinking but you're going to go back to drinking so yeah he's just trying to be i just feel like it's like i just feel like for people i imagine and maybe i'm fighting a fight that is like not even mind to fight because I don't, and I don't even know what I'm doing this, but it's just the nature of Vanderpump rules. Just like him saying like, wow, I did like a binge of sobriety. I was like sober for like a week. It's like, yeah, congrats. I have to do it for the rest of my life.

So shut up. That's what I would say personally. But you know, you got to dance. I'm an alcoholic. Am I an alcoholic? God, are you calling me an alcoholic right now? I want shots. Just kidding.

I don't want shots. Why did I say that? I'm sober. I'm sober right now. I'm sober right now. I'm sober right now. Anyway, I don't know I'm speaking on behalf of sober people when I'm not sober myself. So I'll just be quiet.

Because it's Bravo right now and we're fucking inundated. It's more like it's talk about sobriety and drugs. And this is a conversation on almost every show right now. And so, you know, it's in the conversation. And we start thinking about it and like, am I sober? Like what is sobriety? Because these shows have also redefined what sobriety means. It's like there's a reality reckoning going on.

For me, I think it's more like the reason why I started doing that little monologue. It's more like, it's just a. Schwartz of it all that he does this thing that's like cute and like so like I'm on your journey with you and you're like it's still bullshit though Schwartz everything you say is bullshit yeah so also the main theme of this episode is these people don't like each other at all anymore they used to at least have to work in a restaurant together and that's how they were kind of connected and then after that they were like well we're still on a show together let's still hang out but now they don't hang out they don't like each other they clearly all hate each other and so

So every time they get together, it's so fucking awkward and it's like they're starting over, you know? So when does Tom Schwartz ever hang out with Lala? Never. So that's why it's so fucking awkward, you know? So here we go. And that's almost every scene on the show today is people who hate each other having to hang out. And it's really fun. It's like a fun experiment.

Yeah. It really takes us back to the roots of this show. So Schwartz is like, so are you going to go to Hotel Ziggy tonight? She's like, yes. I think I'm going to go. Is Sandabals coming? And he's like, yeah. Oh, James invited him?

Wausk. Wausk. Wausk. That's crazy. I can't wait to have tacos. Pink tacos. Like my pusset. Sorry, I'm feeling really awkward right now. I'm awkward.

I'm awkward. Hotel Ziggy. More like Hotel Biggie for vaginas. I'm not going to Hotel Ziggy, but I'm going to Hotel Squirties. You want to go out? Just kidding. Sorry. Sorry, I don't always have that.

Everyone bring a punch. I'm going to squirting all over Hotel Zigi tonight. Sorry, I'm awkward to speak about vaginas when I get nervous. Last time. I was at Hotel Sigi, I left that bed so fucking wet. I thought a fire went off in there and the springclos happened. I was almost hired to be the water feature in the courtyard because I was squirting so much. Frank Sinatra started playing because the hotel thought I was, Frank,

thought I was the Bellagio fountain for a second. Yeah, I was almost hired. I was almost hired by the grooves to take on my new alternate personality. Frank squirt not trust. Let's say. Commercials. Here comes one right now. So he's like, yeah, yeah, you know,

Tom, Tom Gissigam. Oh, we saw Jack say Tom, Tom, you know, and Jackson Tom. Like, it's not like they hate each other or anything. They just haven't seen each other in like, I don't know, years? Yeah, because they fucking hate each other. That's why.

Yeah. My God. And then we see Sandoval and him having a dumpster talk, sir. And Sandoval saying, that's the kind of friend you want, Jack, to kind of never question you and agree with you all the time. Okay, fine. Then that's what you want. Then go have them, Jacks. Go have them.

Which is so funny because that's exactly the line that Jacks uses now all the time. Yeah. I'm your friend. You need a friend. You know, like, ask you the tough questions, Kristen. Yeah. So, anyway, so Schwartz just says. that they persevered and everything.

They literally did not persevere. You forced, you tricked them into hanging out together. They tolerated. Yeah. And so, and then, Schwartz was like, yeah, it was good. It was amazing.

And, you know, oh, man, I think I have post-scand-of-all brain fog. Not to be confused, to pre-scand-a-all brain fog, not to be confused with just the brain fog I just live with every single day. But when I see that- Brain fog or reality because I'm sober right now.

I can't even tell. I'm on a brain fog. brain fog bender right now. So addicted to brain fog. Hey, can I have a straw? Because I want to snort up this, what were we saying it was? Brain fog. I want to snort up this brain fog.

Straw. Who's not sober? I can't even think of a word we said two seconds ago. Brain fog. So Schwartz is being very slight because what he's about to do now, well, he's then saying, I mean, when I see what Tom did, compared to what we have. all done. I know, I feel like everyone's cheated in some way, right? Like, we've all cheated. We've all done stupid shit. I mean, I cheated. I was a makeout slut. I mean, uh, I made it with cheating 12 years

ago in Vegas. Anyway, God, I love this chlorophyll in this water. So he's just tried to slide that right in there while the heat's not on him. Just slide it in. Yeah. And she's like, what? And he's like, no one even knows that. Oh my God. That was so long ago. I mean, it was the most innocuous thing, you know? I'm just saying, you know, we've all done stuff. Just wait a minute. You made out with Sheena once. I just squirted it. Sorry, you made me nervous. I don't know.

I think it was somewhere in Vegas. That's all. Pre-Kady? Pre-Katee? It's like, Uh-huh. Maybe pre-during. It was a Rocky moment.

It was during a Rocky moment. Yeah, I was actually at the Rocky Mountain Fudge store, you know, and I kissed her. Yeah. So, Swartz is really working for the producers this year. He's doing everything. everything they ask. He's bringing Joe on camera. He's starting drama because nothing is happening this season. So he's starting shit by bringing Jacks back and helping his show come out. Now he's starting some more drama so Katie can get mad at him some more. He's kind of producer planting.

And last year he spent doing the Raquel storyline to get Katie mad and keep talking. I mean, this guy is just such a fucker. He's just doing everything. Him and Katie are still in a relationship. I don't care what anybody says. They can call each other single all they want to. They are so codependent on each other, on hurting each other's feelings, putting each other through hell and torturing each other and then apologizing later. Well, Katie doesn't apologize. But he gets off on pissing off Katie. And then Katie gets off on becoming this huge victim and getting to mope around and cry and be, you know, Katie, being as Katie as she can about it. And then he gets to grovel and apologize and pretend like he's a good person until he kind of softens her up and then fucks her over again.

Yeah. Cycle. I think he's punishing her. He's punishing her because she's didn't participate in Tahoe and that she and Ariana are like doing their own thing and like I think he's punishing her because a lot of people feel very caught there they're afraid that like people are friends with them that then um with as them as in the tom's that then they're going to lose their friendship with Ariana and Kate so I think he's like he's angry and the way he gets revenge is he just says something that he knows will be really hurtful to Katie and he he enters it right there in on the gossip on ramp with Lala And because he's like, oh, yeah, oh, man, it's just a small thing.

That's a little whatever, just brought it out, whatever. He's such a piece of work. It's also, he doesn't have Sheena on their side right now. She's like kind of anti them at the bar. She's like, you're bringing me, I'm a talking about this animal, you know, instead of being completely on their side because she's friends with Katie right now. So he's going to throw a wrench into that one too, you know. Yeah, exactly.

At the end of the day. Mm-hmm. So, Lala's like, so are you saying that Sheena dappled in the group's bits? And Schwartz's like, no, just like maybe macrodose, something like that, you know, really small. I'm a good little boy. Yeah. And so she's like, I'm going to be straight up with you, Schwartz. I'm fucking over people lying to my face, okay?

Which, of course, Lala's going to make this about her. Right. How could she not tell me that she made out with Schwartz? Because it's embarrassing. Would you fucking tell people? Yeah. And she knows it would... Sheena knows it would actually cause chaos,

especially if it sounds like it was like a big nothing. And so she knows... Lala's like, Sheena and I have gotten extremely close. And we've become each other's vaults. And I just seem strange to me that at no point in time was she like, girlsk. I've got to tell you something.

I got to spill some teasks. Like, what'sk? So Lala's Lala's like this kitty no And shorts like No well I don't know if I told Katie Oh

Whoa whoa whoa Oh God You're not going to gossip about this To everyone will you Oh man Surely Law is not going to tell anyone Anything and get me in trouble

What have I done Oh Hope Katie doesn't get upset And have an excuse To be a little hurt now So then we go to Lala's apartment and Katie comes over and you know hates her it's another scene where people who really don't like each other are being forced to hang out so Lala's like

um hi I'm just trying to enjoy little clean times when I don't have oceans because the second she comes back this entire area is gonna be a fucking bopsk yeah I feel the same way about the dogs that's what every parent loves is when dog owners are like yeah I feel the way, but I feel the same way about my dogs as you do about your baby. They're like, uh, excuse me. Do you know, you know how many times I've gotten in trouble with actual parents about that? I'm like, yeah, builder's like my baby. They're like, no, you don't get to do that. Okay. Yeah, because you're robbing parents that's the one thing that they

have, which is the ability to look down on you for not having a child. Exactly. Like, you don't get to just have a dog. Your dog shits outside, okay? When you have something shitting all over your face, okay and then their first word is like fuck you gaywad okay then you can come complain to us but you you have a dog you can't talk it can't argue it can't kick you can't shit all over you stop it no the best is i'll one up you when you say oh yeah my plans are like my children oh my plans yeah you can't do that with plans that's the best because it's so insulting oh my god your child reminds me of my ficus oh my god i have it's so funny like Like all the work, it's like, my, my God, all day, I was up all night because my child had a fever and I just had to take care of them.

And they just would not go to sleep. It just requires so much work. I'm like, I get it, girl. Totally. I'm, like, growing some time in a little pot in my kitchen. And it is, like, not responding well. It's like, I'm putting all this energy into you. Just let me sleep.

Your kid reminds me my succulent, because it sucks. I've got, I've got some aloe. And it's just, like, dying. And I'm like, you're supposed to be a helpful plant and you're not. Just like, I totally get it. Kids, am I right? So Katie's like, yeah, because dogs, they have like all their stuffed animals and then they gut them and they leave a mess. And they'll let's like, okay, so you're not dealing with the terrorism that is Rams memory on your child.

You don't have to look at Ramps every time your dog guts the toy, okay, bitch. So let's just change the conversation. So I had smoothies at creations with shorts. Yeah, it's the place to decay into the sea. Yeah, it's super healthy. And so he drops on me. Well, he actually dropped his entire milkshake on me, which was really upsetting. But then after I clean the job, he then dropped on me that a few years ago,

Sheena and I made out in Vegas. And Katie's like, what the actual fuck? Are you kidding me? By the way, Lala, what a great friend Lala is. She's like, Sheena and I are like such good friends now. I'm running straight to her enemy. Yeah. With this information.

And she's like, yeah, Katie's like, I just have like so many questions. Like, when was this? And where exactly was this? And was this the time that Schwartz said he went to Vegas and made out with one of Sheena's friends? And wasn't it actually, in fact, Sheena? There are just so many lies in this group. It's hard to keep track. She sounds like she's starting up a podcast, right?

It sounds like a true crime podcast. Like over the next seven episodes, we're going to dive deep into this mystery. Join me, really, won't you? She could start a true crime podcast based on all the shit that Schwartz is pulled. Hi, it's me. Music kills Kate. Today's podcast is, where did Schwartz go in fucking Mexico when he just disappeared for a night and then turned back the color gray?

And then the music just goes, It's a serial theme song but with instead of this episode is brought to you by mail This is Katie and I've been

disrespected Let's go back September 22nd 1999 The first time Schwartz said he would call me back And didn't Where was he? I'm here at the Best Buy

Where I can prove to that he literally did not buy the best thing here. Now here's a phone booth. I notice that Lala leaves out the part that it was 12 years ago, right? So making it sound like, oh, you know, this just happened. Or it could have happened at your wedding, you know? She's just leaving it, leaving Katie's mind to run. So Lala's like, I don't think you were there because no one was really complaining about how annoying you were.

And she's like, well, I can't think of a time he was in Vegas. with Sheena and I wasn't there. So, and Lola's like, well, you're going to have to ask him because I was in the rant at that time. She goes, well, did you ask Sheena? She goes, no, I haven't seen Sheena. I wanted to talk to you first. And she tells us, I went back and forth.

Like, should I talk to Sheena? But then I was like, I don't want to give Sheena a moment to make this okay. Well, nice heads up, friend. Yeah. You know, it's very important for Mice to make sure that my best friends is. totally blindsided on television. And also sending the most terrifying person

on the cast after them. You know what I mean? And her eyes and Sheena's eyes, you know? Like, that's the last thing Sheena wants is Katie on her ass again. It's like, God, can I have five minutes where Katie's not on my ass? Well, little to be realized at this point

that Sheena has her own bombshell to drop later on. Oh, yes. That's the show, isn't it? So DJ James Kennedy, he's like at Hotel Ziggy now. Everybody's talking about it, guys. Everyone at Hotel Ziggy's like, oh, since when did Southwest fly over this hotel? I know.

James was walking down the street. It's like, whoa. Whoa, that plane is flying really close to the building. I'm trying to play a set here. Do you have to follow me everywhere across this damn city? Oh. Some ice just falls from the plane. I'm always imagining when the Southwest airline

That they're just like dropping Because I don't know Like I have it I don't think this is actually real But I have it in my mind that planes They release like the waste Yeah like little frozen cubes or something Cubs of waste

And I think if they do that They don't do it over residential areas But in my mind they're always dropping it on James Because Southwest would do that Just wait Southwest has the taste in music They're like, get him. Save it off in the DJ.

It's like a bag of peanuts balls on his head. Oh! Okay, so now Schwartz and Joe are coming, and Schwartz is like, your name is Joseph. Ha, ha, ha, ha. That is hilarious. I call you a Joseph. You want to shot Joseph? She goes, I don't even know why you asked me because we always drink the same thing.

Wait, hold on. I can't see you. Hold on. Let me look. I can see you now. You're behind a handbush. Here's the church. Here's the steeple.

Open the doors inside is the... My little pet Charlie. Oh my God. Charlie the turtle's back. He's in the church. So Joe is really Joe, this episode, by the way. She literally is doing our impersonation of her. I was like, that did not take a long time.

She literally does the thing where she's like... I'm like, she really does it. She does, yeah. She's like, do, do, do, do, do, do. Take shot, ma'am. Do do do do do do do. I think I'm so down, take a shot. So they're doing shots and then Brock and and Sheena's friend,

Sheena and Brock and Gina's friend Madison stroll up and Schwartz like, Oh, Sheena, you got dressed up. Yeah, well, it's like very much like the vibe. Like, you know, like, and I want to get like a cute pick, you know, like here's like a one, one piece, sign piece, like, hotel Ziggie. Like, I'm totally a hippie. but like right guy too. I don't know.

Yeah, because it's me the night because it's like mom's night out. So I'm like looking like this. Like I'm looking really good at Hotel City. And also it's like I'm kind of drinking tonight because like I don't drink drink. You know, like I normally don't drink drink anymore. I'm like not sober, but I'm like sober sober. You know what I mean? Yeah, but like,

everybody's like trying to convince us that they're like not drinking for one episode is their shot at sobriety. Stop trying to be sober. This is fucking Vanderpump rules, okay? Let the sober people live their best life and the rest of you stay messes. Yeah. Do you notice that her, Tori was there with her, Tori was with Sheena's group. So, and, and. Really, Tori, don't you have a baby to take care of? Yeah, you're supposed to have like a super newborn baby.

Yeah, Tori. Yeah. I like she's baby-shaming people who don't even have babies. I'm just like baby-shaming nannies. What are you doing here without the baby? She's like, I have the baby. Does Jocelyn know that you left the baby? Tori's like, I have the baby right here.

She, like, lifts up a little potted plant. How dare you compare that? It's not a real baby. Okay. So Sandeval and Kyle Chan, everyone loves a Kyle Chan cameo, and Ariana shows up, and Sannevall is talking with Brock, and he's like, oh, Ariana looks great. Like, that's a good dress for her. Like, I just want to say something to her tonight. Like, I'm afraid to them.

Like, I'm afraid. I'm the victim here, man. It's so hard for me. And Ariana looks amazing, by the way. Yeah. Holy crap. My God. So she is totally revenge dressing it.

Love it. Which works. And Brock's like, I feel like the first thing you guys should try to do is figure out how to start a conversation. It's like you're Brock. Really? You were just yelling at your wife in a store the other day. I don't think you're the expert on starting a conversation.

All right. Here's my method. having trouble communicating, I say, all right, when you're holding the didgeridoo, you get to talk, all right? But unfortunately, you have to talk through the didgeridoo. So a lot of our conversations are like, wah, wow, wow, wow, wow, get a babysitter, wah, wah, wah. It's the talking didgeridoo.

Can't talk unless you got the didgeridoo. If you don't go out the didgeridoo, it's a didgerid don't. Know what I'm saying? To be fair, it's also a question that she didn't ask me a lot. Did you do in the bathroom yet? That's a weird summer. One day she'll get it. You gotta believe as a parent.

He's like, I know, bro, it's when I'm trying to tell my, my poinsettia. Wow, wow, wah, wow, dude. Okay, so then Schwartz and Joe go over and say, oh, Tom Sandoval's like, oh, dude, I'm getting ghosted, left and right over here. You're not getting ghosted. Being ghosted is when someone just started.

stops talking to you and doesn't explain why they just leave. You've been called a piece of shit and told to go die. So you're supposed to be the ghost. Yes. It's not really the same. I mean, I guess it's been the same and like you've been figuratively murdered and turned into a ghost. So Schwartz and Joe go over to say how to James. There's like fist bumps.

And James is like, what's going on, Joe, here to see the magnificence of DJ James Kennedy Hotel Ziggy. The pretzers this time. God damn it. She's like, oh my God. Joseph, Joseph, they all call me Joseph. I love DJing. So letters from my favorite things. Deals and jobs.

You can take advantage of deals when you have a job. It's crazy how that works out. Wiki, wiki, wiki. Do that thing with the records. Do that thing with the records. Sometimes Schwartz sounds like that when he's on my voicemail and he's got bad sales service. He's like, hey, Joe, it's me, Schwartz.

I'm like, are you a DJ? Are you a dealer or a job? Do they have breadsticks here, unlimited? So then Sheena's watching. I'm a cat. Meow, meow, meow. Whoop, whoops. I'm a cat that does all impersonations.

So she does like, they're like totally dating. Like, why are they acting like they're not dating? I love that everybody gets fucking energy. from Joe. She's like, whoa, look at me right now. I'm a record. I'm a record. Hold on. You spin me right around, round,

like a record. Could you imagine spinning around like a CD though? You go so fast. So she just like, right now, I really don't have a reason to like Joe. Like, she literally drove with Raquel to go meet Tom's in Big Bear, and then she like left with Raquel with Sandoval

at Big Bear. It's just like a little a homie hang like come on bitch you know okay now here's my question who cares if joe knew if here and i know this is going to people are going to get on my ass about this because look it's hard for me not to stick up for joe because people on this show are so mean to her i don't understand what she's done okay so she knew that tom and rakel were fucking was she friends with these people was she friends with ariana because from what we know from rakel and everybody else, Tom is telling, Tom was like, oh, we have an open relationship. We're just together for the show or we're just together because we have a brand or whatever he was telling

people. So did he tell Joe and they just, she just bought that? Or? I don't know. Well, obviously later on we find out that Joe went to Thanksgiving with Ariana. And so if she did know, that's incredibly shitty. I don't know. The question is, I just don't know enough the situation, know what Joe actually knows because I can see Joe going to like Big Bear and they're saying, okay, Joe, you can go now. Well, okay. Whoa. And she just like drives off.

I thought we were going to see a big bear. What is this? It's a cabin. I can see why Ariana doesn't like Joe. I think that everyone else's dislike of Joe feels tenuous. I just don't like, I don't see why it's like they hate her. Like they hate her. They hate her.

And I just don't understand why she is like engenders that kind of emotional response. I don't either. I mean, I understand the whole like, oh, you guys knew. She knew she was dating shorts. But if she was dating, if you're dating somebody and their friend is cheating on their girlfriend and that they're told that they're in a, I mean, I don't know, I'm going in circles here. And it's not like I'm trying to defend Joe or anything.

I just, I think it's natural. And what the mistake that they're making on this show, the cast. is making on the show. Whenever you bully somebody on a show, it doesn't matter if you're right. If you bully them, the audience is going to go on that person's side because they don't like to see that.

And that's what these people are doing. And you're wasting a hero season with this. Katie. I mean, Ariana has, I feel like more of a say. Because she was, it's like, fuck this girl. She pretended to be my friend.

She knew, you know, I get that. Right. But the whole like, I'm going to bully her and I don't care if she's afraid of me. It's like, oh, God, here we go again. You know, the audience does not like that shit. I think it's a huge, it's a huge tactical error. Well, and also Katie did the whole thing of like,

I don't care if you make out with people, whatever, just don't do it in the friend circle. And now she's mad that she, that Schwartz hooked up with Joe. I guess an argument could be made that she's in the friend circle, but I think I took it as like don't do it with anyone on the show. And so, like, Katie just won't be happy with anyone that Schwartz makes out with, it seems like. But it seems like the thing that they're all mad at is that she, knew she knew that Tom was cheating on Ariana, which I get why they would be like, fuck that

girl. My, especially Ariana, like you said, my question is, was Tom telling her, it's no big deal. I'm just dating this. I'm just dating this girl because we're in an open relationship and whatever, you know. Yeah, I feel like I would want to get more information to know what she really knew, et cetera. And also, I just feel like, I just think that, like, it's not fair that Joe gets. It's so much hate, but they're like pretty chill about Tom Schwartz these days. It's like, I don't know.

I just feel like this is what always happens. It's like the girl gets it's so much worse. And Tom Sandoval. Sheena's like, she is in the process of being friends with Tom Sandoval again, but she's going to hate this girl who wasn't even fucking Tom Sandoval. He was fucking Tom Sandoval's friend. Like that's, it just seems a little bit. She's, yeah.

Hypocritical and unfair of them to be. And also, I don't like seeing Shina and Ariana in this bully group because we've seen happen a zillion times on this show and they're usually the ones who it's against right like katy and stasi and all those girls the witches of weho used to do it to the people that they didn't like and now that they're gone it's still going on but there's like new cast members in the bully group and i don't like that it's like people that i like in there now you know what i mean it's like sheena how many years were you fucking bullied by these people and now you're just jumping on the other team i don't like it yeah so whether or not this girl is right or wrong doesn't even matter at this point

We don't know shit about Joe except from what we've seen on this show and that she went to Big Bear with Those people and I just don't think it's enough to burn somebody at the stake Sorry come and get me. I'm willing to burn Joe at the stake But like we just need more evidence I need to be ready to burn her at the stick Yeah I don't need you to tell me It has to be more than that Joe went to Big Bear and then left Big Bear and left Raquel a big bear and therefore like could make a healthy inference that Raquel was sleeping with one of them So I just need more. Need more before I can hate.

But for right now, I just see this is like a quirky weirdo girl who is like coming on to the show and cannot handle it at all. Here's what I see. A Muppet. She's just like that kind of a personality. She's just kind of a Muppet of a person. And I like her. She's like a weirdo. Okay, maybe she'll prove me wrong later.

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