Watch What Crappens - #2468 RHONJ S14E08 Part 1: When Push Comes To Shove

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

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or as I like to call it, his coffice. It's Mr. Ronnie Karam. How are you, Ronnie? Hi, Ben. I'm great. I'm here at Studio City, California in a car. It's lovely. I'm going to turn on the ignition and just slowly choke to death throughout this recap.

Pete Slauson Ronnie has construction going on in his house, so he's gone into his Melissa Gorga recording booth. Pete Slauson Like a office. Pete Slauson Also, somebody said, why don't you just record at Ben's house if you're in the same city? Listen, do you know how much easier this is rolling out of bed stinky and not having to do this round? Ben and I agree, two out of two podcasters agree rolling out of bed stinky is a way to go if you can, even if you're doing it from a car. Okay. But we sure do love hanging out with each other and we'll probably do that the rest of the week. Yeah. People don't realize also, one does not just simply say, you know what, I'm

just going to cross the hill today. I'm going to go from studio city to Hollywood in Los Angeles. It is hard to do things. Ronnie and I used to live like a mile from each other. We were just down the road and we still didn't get together to podcast. Yeah. So honestly it's been like what a week and a half or so that I've been trying to go over the hill to see your house. I still haven't made it over because going over the hill is hard people. So don't give it hard.

Don't let me tell you now being on the other side of it, I don't want to go to your side either this week. And I was like, Oh, what a bunch of highfalutin motherfuckers over here on the, on the other side of the hill. You guys think you're so great over there. Everything's so much more expensive. The parking spaces are tinier. Fuck you guys. You know, fuck you guys. I like it over here. I went to four Home Goods in one day over here.

Four, sir. Guess what? I went across over the hill, actually over the weekend, and it was 150 degrees on your side of the hill. It was not. It was boiling hot. And also I couldn't find a parking spot. So all that talk about parking spots, I'm not sure.

I'm not sure it was worth it. Well, I don't know, but listen, no matter what side of the hill I'm on, I'm staying inside of my house. And they all know that. So it doesn't really matter to me. But here we are with an episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey.

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Have we ever seen such violence, such cruelty, such- Everybody get the fuck over yourselves online. I count with you people from Real Housewives of New Jersey fandom acting like, The violence! I've never! Really? You've never? Have you watched this show?

Because it literally happens every single year and you guys need to stop clutching your fucking pearls Stop clutching your fake ass pearls in the real house last in New Jersey universe get over yourselves This is Jersey what we do is hit each other and throw cheese balls at each other Can we just get over or cheese cubes? I mean, sorry, I miss I miss handled the miss cheese balls Do Gorgia cheese balls to balls to you Let's stop acting like we've never seen this and this is the worst thing to ever happen on television, please. It wasn't that bad.

Yeah. We have seen a glass breaks every season. They were in Italy. They were in a nice restaurant in Italy and Teresa took a glass and threw it against the restaurant wall. That was the worst. When Teresa actually broke the glass against the wall. What about the cake being thrown,

which was also Teresa, wasn't it? Or was that Melissa? Both of them throwing that cake across the restaurant that Ziggy Flicker got. How about Joe and Joe wrestling each other in a couple's retreat? Yeah. That was actual physical violence.

I mean, this is physical violence too, but that was like full on body on body violence there. Like this show has seen it, the table flip, but everyone loved the table flip. The table flip is an actual violent act, okay? All of this show is, has a history of throwing shit against walls, against people, against each other. So the fact that people are outraged,

I mean, it's just, it's wild because it's been with us all this time. Yeah, I mean, and's just, it's wild because, uh, it's been with us all this time. Yeah. I mean, and look, obviously violence is, and hitting each other is not great. And it's especially not great on housewives. Cause like, come on, like, can we keep these shows on the air? I love these shows. I don't want it to degenerate into complete, complete chaos and nonsense.

It's just the reactions from people are so hypocritical. Like you guys, we've been watching Jersey for years and years and people are literally like, I can't believe it. I called for every single person to be fired. I mean, it was a push and a smack. Now the smack, that wasn't glass, that was plastic. So I don't know, we'll get to it later. Finalist is never good.

It's just the level of outrage is I think, maybe kind of silly for fans from this show. Yeah, there's a lot of thinking about it. Yeah, I think that people are very sanctimonious, and also people have to choose a lane. People are like, on the one hand, shows are so boring, they're not even doing anything, then something like this happens, it's like, fire them all.

It's like, okay, I mean, admittedly, you don't have to resort to violence and a physical fight in order to make a show interesting. There are a lot of other things that can happen way before it. But it is, it is sometimes I do feel like, are we just like pushing these shows to this point? Like, maybe we as an audience should also chill out a little bit and just like enjoy things for what they are.

I'm not taking the blame for the decline of the world. I think that we can, we can think that we can do that with anything. Like, is humanity's fault for pushing this to the brink of blah, blah, blah? I mean, sure, okay? Like, humans suck. But at the end of the day, I blame these people for making a good show or a bad show. I give them the credit for a good show or the blame for making a bad show. I'm taking responsibility for shit.

I pay my YouTube TV bill and I sit here every week. Okay, you guys do the rest. Right. I have to say though, by the way, just pay my taxes. You pay your taxes. You are not. You should not have to endure the indignity of being accused of ruining the real house with a new journey. Exactly. I've not taken that on. You know, I will say that I think this show is actually doing, believe it or not, maybe this is a hot take, I think this show is doing actually a pretty good job

of filming around in like an irreparable rift that's happening between Melissa and Teresa and their assorted camps. Unlike Potomac, which were people like Giselle and Candice did not wanna film with each other at all. And there was like this really or you had also Wendy and you had NECA and you had these so much of the shows were about not wanting to film with each other, not want to be around each other. You sit there and you listen to people say, you're just sort of like, oh, at least with New Jersey, I think what I'd like is they don't even bother saying, if she's there, I'm not there. She's there. They just like, okay, this week, this week is a, is a, is a Teresa party.

So the people who are down to recent will be there. Last week was a Melissa party. We do the Melissa things. And it's just like, we're able to kind of like oddly go forward with this dual camp situation in a way that I think by and large kind of works considering how dysfunctional it is behind the scenes. Well, I think what also helps it is that this show is more cartoonish and the characters are funnier even if they're not together.

I mean, even if it's just Marge shooting alone, it's Marge, you know, obsessing over ice coffee and being a yenta or it's like funnier character. It's not just watching Wendy on another date with her husband talking about her 19th business idea or. Exactly. You know, Candice like pretending, you know, whatever. I think it's funnier actual characters who can handle being on their own a little bit more.

And so, you know, different situations will work for different shows. But I was expecting a lot worse from this season. And so I'm just pleasantly surprised because I'm loving it. I think it's like, I think it's so funny. I thought the episode last night was so funny. You know, again, the violence is never great.

It's never great to be like, oh, you, you know, you push someone and you hit somebody. That's never going to be great. I'm not saying that that was good. I'm just saying the reaction from the audience is a little more over the top. And by the way, I think I'm going to be great. I'm not saying that that was good. I'm just saying the reaction from the audience is a little more over the top. By the way, I think I'm going to for today's episode, I am now like saying this one time and I'm not gonna say it anymore because I'm sick of saying it. Violence of course is never

good yada yada. I'm sick of saying it. Why do I like why do I have to why do I have to like reiterate this every time? Like you all know we feel this way. We all agree. We all as a group agree that this is so I don't because we say it sounds like we're kind of cheering it on to it's like, Oh, you know that violence is never good. But lol, it was just plastic. Like I get how it's like sounds like that. But it is also or on other shows where there have been a slap, you know, sometimes the reaction is like, but this is worse. And you go over it like a Zapruder film, like whose fault was it? Candace or Monique's, you know, sometimes the reaction is like, but this is worse. And you go over it like a Zapruder film, like whose fault was it? Candice or Monique's, you know, and who was the worst? Well, that was a lot worse of a fight. It was like a hair clutch and it was a really bad fight. And it was a lawsuit

and it was a, you know, also a lot of other sort of cultural issues that were embedded into that. And I just want to say, I'm just saying that like, when we get to this fight later in the episode, we're embedded into that. And I'm just saying that like, when we get to this fight later in the episode, if you don't hear me say, violence is never, no one should ever do, violence is never good. Don't assume it's me saying I'm down with violence. It's me just getting sick of having to say it. Okay. I've said it here at the top of the episode and we all know it going forward from me, from me, from me, then Mandelkirch. Okay. Okay. So Teresa walks into the Zen to worry healing center. I can't hilarious. This is even mean the sanctuary. Oh, well, I think it's actually it's a spin off of sensations of Newport

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Zen Sanctuary. Zen Sanctuary. Zen San And Teresa's like oh my god. I love you Sean. I got so many crystals and she's like, yeah, you know what crystals do? They absorb negativity and just like energy that's not yours. They absorb shut the fuck up. No, they don't they what do crystals? No crystals are like, you know, hey, we're just here to absorb energy. That's not specifically yours Crystals are like, you know, hey, we're just here to absorb energy. That's not specifically yours. Okay. We're going to tune to your energy and then just absorb all the foreign energy. That's not your crystals. Aren't that smart? Shut the fuck up, lady. I don't believe the thing you said with your stupid name store. I feel so bad for the crystals that are around. Teresa. They're like, Hey,

have you guys seen a, uh, Jessica crystal? Oh yeah. She's not coming out today. She had to absorb Teresa. Jude ice. Oh yeah, she's not coming out today. She had to absorb Teresa Giudice. Oh no. You know, she absorbed Teresa Giudice and she absorbed her old hairline energy and can no longer see out of her eyes. So we're going to just give her some time to recover. Poor Jessica Crystal. I also love how everyone walks in and out. Jessica Crystal has to have sex with Louis Crystal every day, five times a day now, so she doesn't come to lunch anymore.

Jessica Crystal just threw a glass against the wall. She absorbed too much. She went too far. All the other Crystals are like, I'm not even a Crystal anymore. I will not do this anymore. I refuse to be in this Crystal shop. There's one Crystal that has a giant flower on its chests like I don't even want to be around Jessica crystal anymore Hey, why is that crystal dress like a hemorrhoid?

So I'm also amused that every time someone walks into his entry they're like they love how it smells And then when Jennifer comes in later saying Oh my God, I love it. It smells so nice in here. Oh my God. And then Jennifer comes in later saying, Oh my God, baby. It smells so nice in here, baby. Can I tell you what does not smell nice? This car, okay? I bought this car used, which, you know, of course, cause like I'm a money, I'm a money saver.

I'm financially, I'm fiscally responsible guys. So I got a used car, which is great. had like a thousand miles and it smelled fine, you know, cause you know I'll smell it. And I kind of smelled like new car, had new car smell still cause it only had a thousand something miles. And guess what? I drove that car for a day. I left it in the valley heat one day and I came back in here and it smells like it's

been marinated in hamburgers. You know when you eat fast food in your car and it has that smell? Yeah. Mm-hmm. And I called, I said, this car smells like hamburgers. And they were like, well, sir, you bought the car. I said, I'm not saying I want it back, I'm saying it smells like hamburgers.

And he's like, well, I don't know why, because have you eaten a hamburger in it? I said, no, I didn't eat a hamburger and then call you to complain that the car smells like a hamburger that I ate. Because that does happen. He said, well, the lady only had it for two weeks. And I said, did she go to In-N-Out and then rub the hamburger mouth on the floor? Yes or no, sir. I mean, what do you want from me?

What they're trying to hamburger blame me. I don't even eat hamburgers. There's going to have to be a USA procedural TV show starring you. It'll be called the nose because the sense that you are able to pick up, when we were walking around Europe, Rod would be like, I smell fish, do you smell fish? There's something fishy going, there's like a fish smell over here. Do you smell that?

Smells like old paper. There's old paper. Like you're gonna be solving crimes with your nose. Like this is gonna be the next USA hit. It's because I smoked since I was like 13 years old until a few years ago. I quit smoking like what, five years ago or something. And now I guess I'm starting to get my smell back

or something. I'm just not used to having a nose. It's like I'm like an alien who just got a human sense of smell. I'm like, this is disgusting. We're just all nose blind at this point. We're just used to all these things, but you're smelling the world for the first time.

And it's disgusting. I'll tell you, let me tell you. It's disgusting. Let me tell you something about the world. It's trash. It's just a big heap of garbage. So we're doing a great job. All right, everybody. You're shopping beautiful. So then she sees a huge Buddha head and she's like, oh my God, I love the Buddha head. Is that for sale? Because I got a party coming up. We like to have, Oh my God, I love the Buddha head. Is that for sale? Cause I got a party coming up. We like that party with Buddha. I was like, that's not Buddha is not here for your entertainment, ma'am. No, but also, but also she goes, thank. Yeah, I'm having a party. It's called tipsy and saloon. I'm like, what, but this is a Buddha head. I, I mean, do we tell her, do we tell her where Buddhism is more popular?

I mean, I don't know. Like, did you leave Buddha out of this? Like, Buddha, like, what did Buddha do? He sat by a fucking tree. He never even ate anything. Okay. Well, that's not true because he was big, right? Okay. Here's something I don't understand. Why is there a fat Buddha that we see sometimes in culture and then we see this skinny Buddha who's like all ready to go out? Like this Buddha is snatched. He looks like ready for the club. He's looking good, this Buddha. You should see in Thailand there's a reclining Buddha. I went to this temple and there's a big old Buddha on its side just reclining. And, you know, that Buddha is someone who went out. That's the Buddha who just came home. It's like, girl, I am exhausted. I just don't understand these different

representations of Buddha. They're like, this is, you know, this is Nutra system Buddha. This is like regular, I mean, I don't know what it is. I love all the Buddhas. I just think it's interesting. Like one is getting invited to tipsy and to loom party and one's not, you know what I mean? I'm like, is Tulum known for its like being a Buddhist epicenter or anything like that or is that just me? I mean, Tulum to me is known as being a thought from Southern hospitality place to go. Because like every thought, man and woman comes from there. So, or goes there at least.

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All right, well, I only did one thing. I said, Teresa saying, when I think about the loom, I think very little clothing, et cetera, et cetera. Why is that? I've never thought of Tulum this way. I always thought of Tulum as like the really glamorous place, like the most glamorous place to go to. But Teresa's just, I think she just fucked a lot in Tulum, so that's her thing. She's like, you know what you do in Tulum? You don't

wear no clothes. And you give Louis whatever he wants all day, every day. It's like, I don't know, what if we didn't marry a sex addict? You know, is there somewhere to have lunch? Can we just have a lunch party? Pete Slauson A lunch party, yeah. Lunch themed dinner party. So, Teresa's like, she tells the lady at Zanctuary, like, yeah, I'm like, you know, like spiritual, you know, like, and you have like so many Buddhas, you know? I'm like, yeah, Teresa Giudice, a real poster child for spirituality in New Jersey. Yeah. And the lady's like, oh, that Buddha, that one's not for sale. I'm so sorry. Which

we know that this lady is easily bought because we see the Buddha later at Teresa's party. They pointed out, they're like, the Buddha head that was not for sale. So this lady is such a fucking sellout. That's why she can't even properly have, first of all, the name of her store is stupid. And then she can't even do crystals right. She's like, yeah, crystals, basically, they take away negative energy and also oil change. They'll do an oil change.

Really good at refilling your coffee. When you're just making stuff up, crystal lady. I didn't realize I was the same Buddhahead. I must have misread it. I thought it said this was not the same Buddha head as the one. But I guess it makes sense. Pete Slauson Oh, I don't think it said it was the same one. They just, I thought they showed the Buddha head and they said the Buddha head, didn't they? Pete Slauson They pointed and the question is, did it say the Buddha head that's not for sale or not the Buddha head that's not for sale or the boot? Not this not the Buddha head that was not first

You know what? Honestly, I don't really remember and we're just gonna have to see how it shakes out I'm sure it'll be in the notes. Yeah. Well, why are people even listening to this? So like, you know what? I came here to find out this information These idiots don't even know, you know, I'm going to somebody else and I wouldn't even blame them I would just say you know what? I'll give you a ride to the other podcast. Get in my car, I'll take you over there. So Dolores and Jennifer Aiden come in and Dolores is like, so are you excited for your party? Listen to me, I'm incredibly excited.

Can't you tell? Enthusiasm is dripping out of all my pores. You know what I got? I got a glitter person. I got fire dancers. Does Teresa have fire dancers often? Or is a glitter person. I got fire dancers. Does Teresa have fire dancers often? Or is it just Bravo that I'm just, what's with the fire dancers? I don't know.

When does this become an industry that people were like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to become a fire dancer. Like, here's what I hear about the economy, that it sucks. How are fire dancers making it? Like how are literally like everybody else, how's everybody else out of work except fire dancers are like on every TV show? And why are they everywhere? Like I feel like they go into like rural Montana and they're like, oh, well, here we are on our Montana retreat.

Here comes some fire dancers. It's like they've got fire dancers in rural Montana too. Fire dancers have really good PR people because they're at like the most random parties ever. And they're like, hey, you know what we're celebrating today? Semi trucks, about some fire dancers. Of course you fucking do. But I have to say-

You know I live down the street from a fire dancer in Texas, do you know that? I live down the street from this gay couple. One is the ex-constable of the town and- Jared Sussman There's constables? David Kinn Yeah, we have a constable. Because I didn't want to move in there because he would park his constable car on the corner of the street, I guess, to scare people away from crime. So you would turn onto my street and it's

like, constable. And I would always like slam on my brakes because I'm one of those. Pete Slauson Beware of people. David Kinn And even if I wasn't speeding, I'd be like, oh my God, please don't pull me over. And anyway, one day I was walking, I was like, Oh my God, there's a fire. And not walking, driving. Why am I lying? I'm telling like the dumbest little lie. So I was driving and I stopped because I saw fire and it's got a lot of woods around it.

And I stopped and I rolled down my window, you know, just to yell fire. Cause I'm not going to actually get out. Like, who are we kidding? But it was a guy twirling fire. And then I saw him on a walk and I said, I saw you fire dancing. He's like, yeah, I do that in our backyard. It's like, that is something else. That's a weird hobby to pick up. It's a weird hobby. Like, it's a weird, weird, weird. I just don't understand the compulsion. But you know what? You know what? Go with God.

Well, at least I can call him flaming now without getting in trouble. That's right. Well, by the way, I have to say a huge amount of growth for Teresa that she had like for this Tulum party, she got a glitter person and a fire dancer, but she used some restraint and did not bring in a focaccia person, somebody who does moots. And probably, you know, whatever else would happen

at a typical Teresa Giudice party. Moots face painting. Moots. Okay. So I've just, okay. I'm all over the place today. Okay. So then she's like, yeah, I don't want no clothes in this. So then we go to Envy Melissa's store,

which is double the size now. So now it's like two, so now it's like two glasses kiosks at a mall put together. Yeah, exactly. It's like when you have, um, like it's, it's not just like a kiosk, it's a kiosk with like a little seating area now. So, um, Melissa is doing her thing where she pretends to be working there and she's like, Oh my God, guys, you know, the store looks great right now. This is really big for me.

You know, the store is like double the size, which means we have twice as much inventory that we're not selling. And I'm just like so proud right now. And like, this is the most amazing thing that's ever happened to Envy. I have more space for Chanel purse knockoffs that I get from Canal Street now.

It's crazy in there. It's like literally nuts. So Melissa does nothing for me, sorry. You know, I'm not a hater. People are like, Ronnie, why are you such a hater? Melissa, I don't really hate. It's kind of like that Vanderpump rules, like you're not important enough to, I'm just bored.

She's like, okay, here's what's going on in my storyline, guys. Antonio went to college. I'm like, okay, I'm exhausted. Just move on, move on, fast forward. Ronnie, how dare you say that? Listen to what's been going on. It's been almost a year at its new location

and I'm like, I'm so hands-on. And I just, I wanted to move my store closer to where I live now in Franklin Lakes. And we moved into a space that's like in an awesome town and like the foot traffic is unreal. It's thriving. So, I mean, I don't know how you could say she's boring. I think that's like a pretty exciting piece of backstory there, personally.

Yeah. When she said, you know, we haven't had a fashion show for a couple of months because you don't have any fashion. What are you talking about with this? Can we stop faking like you have actual original fashion? And also I can never get behind this because you stole, you robbed us of the original posh fashion show.

You're no posh fashion show, ma'am. The drama cannot compare, and neither can the terrible clothing. I mean, yours is just basic. At least Kim D's terrible clothing was fun. I think posh fashion show is going to come back now that it seems like Kim D and Teresa are friends again. So I think posh fashion show is going to come back now that it seems like Kim D and Teresa are friends again, so I think Posh fashion show I'm gonna fingers crossed our own sweet sweet Kim D Piela is gonna bring it back for us. I

Would love a nice competing fashion show. Oh, yeah, that would be wonderful during the fashion week And then there could even be a bougie bougieie kids fashion show. There really could be so much that happens. Yeah. Hey guys, has anybody noticed that all the pleather farms are missing pleather cows? Well, it's Jersey fashion week. So Melissa on the heels of saying that she's so hands on now says, Oh, yeah, well, you know, now that the house is done, and Antonio's off to college, I can get back to like focusing on the store. I'm like, well, it sounds like you were really hands on right there if you had to take a three year break from going into your store to help your kid. So Danielle comes in and they have a pretend fashion

designer off, which is my favorite thing. Where they're like trying to pretend each of their careers is like super important in the fashion industry. So Melissa's like, Oh my God, we have like models and I have 16 models. It's going to be so great. And then he was like, Oh yeah, I had seven to eight bottles. That was total chaos. Get that many bottles. I'll tell you that. So I know what it's like having a bottle. We're both people who got bottles. Am I right? Right? Well, I have 16. Well, I have seven. That's a lot of bottles.

But I have 16. But I have seven. Models, am I right? So then Daniel's, wow, look at that number. Wow. And I was like, you know, the first thing that comes down has to be like the best thing in the fashion show that five people are going to be at. So I'm just trying to figure that out, you know, like, you know, you need to wear something from Envy in my, you have to be my model, by the way, Danielle. You really have to be it.

You have to be in the Envy fashion show. Oh God. So Melissa's like going through a rant, you know, they're picking stuff to wear or whatever. And then back at Zensations, Zengtuary with the other ladies. So Teresa's like, guys, guys, do some healing now. So, we go through a healing session with this lady that I don't trust. And it actually turns out to

be my favorite scene of the season, because she's like, okay, ladies, I just want you to take a nice deep breath and imagine anything that's been bothering you. And so they start doing these sound bowl things and then we just see the women going through all of their traumas in their head. When it gets to Dolores, I started dying. It's like, please echo of any of the traumas you may be experiencing. And it just cuts to Dolores going, I'm a slob. And it's kind of like, it sounds like it's underwater and distant or whatever. It's like slob, slob, slob, slob, slob. So then they wake up again and Dolores goes, you know what? My mind's too fucked up to be cleansed right now. It's just not happening.

My mind doesn't shut off. So she's like, Oh, all right, listen, you're not healing shit, but I would like some large stone butterfly wings. You have those. And she's like, Oh my God, guys, this tree is connected to abundance and growth. And it's great for business. So if you're starting a new adventure, what would be great for my business is getting this tree. Oh no, my crystal tree just welts wilted because it absorbed all your energy.

Okay. So, Oh my God, my crystal tree is, is leaving the room and saying it's not divorced yet, but apologize profusely. Oh my God, Jessica crystal is crying. She's saying she's a slob. So the lorores is like, Oh, I definitely want the abundance tree because Paulie and I are going to be opening a business together. Opening up a business baby?

What kind of business? Are you going to be on a step and repeat at Danielle's function? Cause I sure as hell wasn't baby. It's eco electric. Oh, so like economical electric no electric for the economy no it's actually just it's electric that echoes it echoes throughout neighborhoods one person turns on their light another person turns on their light another person turns on their light oh Oh, it's like that song eco eco

my grandma and your grandma sitting by the fire your grandma said to my grandma gonna light my grandma's fire it was an eco eco eco electric right you first time i've ever heard that song where somebody started a grandma on fire, but So Jen's like what's up with this divorce baby? You can start a business when he's not divorced yet I can start a business for somebody's married already married people can start businesses I was divorced people can stop it and she's like listen listen stop businesses. And she's like, listen, listen, he can't do more than what he's doing, okay? Marriage can take 20 something years to end. We all know it.

So it is. You know what, marriage right now in my life is not the biggest thing. You know what my biggest thing is right now? Having fantasies of slamming Jackie Gulch and had his head up against the wall for calling me a slob. Violence is never the answer. violence is never the answer.

The answer, the answer, the answer, the echo electric coming soon. So then Jen's like, what's the ring? He said he had a ring, where's the ring? Dolores is like, listen, I'm not thinking about marriage right now. Can we get over it? So Jen's like, well, he's invested. So that's clear. By the way, you missed a shit show.

Perhaps one of the party, baby. Oh, yeah, there were fights in every corner, unlike Envy, which has shit in every corner. There I said it, Melissa, I have to tell you. So Melissa, then we go back to Melissa and Danielle at Envy and Melissa's like, by the way, what did you think about the party the other night? That was such a great party that I had.

Everyone fought. Like I've definitely earned myself another year on this show, right? And Danielle's like, yeah, that gift situation was crazy. What happened? That was crazy. Listen, listen, I'm gonna, let me tell you something. As someone who did that to my brother,

let me tell you why, why that, why she did it. Melissa's like, wait, did you send a gift to your brother though, through your friends, and he was gonna have a big party for the baby? It was that basically, did you have a public display of your gift though? And she's like, nah, nah, I didn't, nevermind. That won't say it.

Because she's trying, Danielle's trying to come in here with her own family storyline, and Melissa's like, no, I'm sorry, we've already got that. So before you even tell me what you did with your brother, let me remind you that it's nothing compared to my family storyline. And I've also got 16 models in Unit 7. So just sit in the back seat, okay, while I drive this scene. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, she's like, when you did it, it was a personal thing, because it was real when you sent your gift to your brother, but this was not personal. It was a personal thing because it was real when you sent your gift to your brother, but this was not personal. It was a spectacle. So we go back to the other set. We go back to the Zen jewelry and they're talking about the same thing and everything. And they tell Teresa that, you know, Joe threw the card in the fire and everything. And Teresa's like, you know, she's not surprised.

And she goes, I mean, the only thing that was in the card was congratulations on your new home. Okay. Like, like it wasn't an olive branch. It was just like a gesture. Which actually is quite nice because what, which one of them sent this Melissa or Teresa, but you remember years ago when it was congratulations on your used home? What's with it?

The Teresa sent that to Melissa and Joe. She's like, congrats on your used home. I honestly, I remember that that happened. that Teresa sent that to Melissa and Joe. She's like, congrats on your used home. I honestly, I remember that that happened. I don't remember who said that. I don't either. It was one of them. That shit was so funny.

So I think it is nice when someone says congrats on your new home. You know what I mean? Especially when it is technically used. So the producer's like, but why did you send your brother a house warming gift? She's like, I'm not gonna take the credit for that. I don't want to take the credit for that because that was only my husband.

You know, he was like, it's like, I was like, I ain't kissing nobody's ass, Louie. And he was like, you know, like, it's a nice gesture, babe. And I was like, okay, I'm fine. You know? Well, so then John, I guess was talking about the big 15 minute meeting you had. It's like, yeah, I mean, it was basically just like to clear his name that he was like not a drug dealer, but meanwhile he was like, he was a drug dealer. You know, most housewives try to be subtle.

They're like, I'm just going to plant something here and then try and take that person down, but I'm going to act innocent. And Teresa's not, she's like, yeah, I was trying to bring him down. So that's why we met for the meeting. She's like, yeah, he was a drug dealer. And Lord's like, well, Paul said he brought up the Gia analogy. How could he? How could he bring up an analogy that somebody else brought up that was an analogy when you still don't know what an analogy is? That's what I'm getting to. How many years are we gonna say the word analogy and you're not gonna ever understand what it means?

And Teresa's like, oh my God, why is John talking about my daughter anyways? Next time I see him, I'm gonna be like, take my daughter's name out of my mouth and he can go fuck himself down. So Teresa's mad that John referenced Jackie's analogy. that John referenced Jackie's analogy. She's mad that like, she's mad that he referenced something

that Jackie said while she's simultaneously excited to court Jackie to come to her side, even though Jackie is one who actually said it. Yeah, because you did the magic thing around Teresa. You said something involving anything around her children, where she can be like, you said something about my daughter. Yes. So then back to MV, Melissa's like,

oh my God, you know, everywhere I turned, someone was arguing with something at that party. And Danielle's like, yeah, you know, I know that me and Jen Aiden was at the bar and we were talking, having a conversation. It started getting a little heated because she started talking about the charity that I threw. I was like, what are you talking about with that?

You know, like, like to say, like I'm stealing from charity and shit. And Melissa's like, you know, to stay from, to say you steal from a charity. I mean, that's deep. That is really, really deep. Now, if I was stealing from a charity, it would be a much bigger charity than yours. I'm just basically I have bigger charities. What's your charity again? I'm sorry. Was it the charity for hardly any models in your show?

I mean, to think that they would say that. And so Danielle is like, I mean, that to think that I step on people to get ahead on life, which by the way, it is a funny implication, just implying that Daniel has gotten the head anywhere in life. Like you have to get ahead in life before you can be accused of stepping on people to get ahead in life. But also the people that you step on to get ahead are successful people.

You know what I mean? They're like other people that you're using to get ahead. They're not like, and I'm not saying hairdressers aren't successful. I'm just saying on the path to fashion success, you don't step on a hairdresser's head. You step on a fashion designer's head. You know what I mean? Right.

And Jennifer is so mad that Danielle is stepping on people's- I'm worried that hairdressers are going to be mad at me. I have none, so fuck off. But I mean, Jennifer is accusing Danielle of stepping on people to get ahead when Jennifer is literally demanding to have more presence on a step and repeat. Like you literally want to be, you want to step on the step and repeat. So, um, Dan, yeah, so they're talking about Jen, how it's getting ugly with Jen and Danielle's like, you know, what, uh, what somebody pays a horrible picture of you, that ain't

you that hurts that really, really hurts. So right now I got to paint a picture of me and I ain't even me and it hurts. That's what hurts when someone paints a horrible picture of you. That's not true. Now let me tell all of America about my terrible father once again. No kidding. And my terrible brother and my terrible bitch sister-in-law. Dad's crying into his fist again.

That man is totally biting his fist somewhere. So then back to the healing center, Jennifer Aiden's doing her innocent voice. You know, me and Danielle kind of had that bad a childy thing, and all three of us had to sell a lot of tickets to that place, baby. And like, I was like, didn't you put aid in plastic surgery on the step and repeat? And she's like, why would I do that? And you didn't spend any money.

I was like, bitch, we showed up. Yeah, you don't get placement for showing up for some charity event. Also, you were on billboards. So just say thank you. You know what I mean? Also, like, I think it's like, she should have just requested that.

She should've said, can we put aid in plastic surgery on the step and repeat if I'm showing you. No, she's just trying to find reasons to fight with Danielle. If you didn't request it, and then after the fact you're upset, like, no, it doesn't work that way. She's decided she's gonna come for Danielle, and she's just gonna throw a bunch of shit at the wall.

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or you can listen ad free by joining Wondery Plus and the Wondery app on Apple podcast. So Dolores just actually says what you just said basically. Like, you know, I know Jen and I'm not buying this step and repeat as a big fucking deal. Jen just doesn't like her. And I'm the one who's called the slob.

I'm the slob. But also Jen goes off later about how, oh, well, if I have the charity event, I spend all my own money. I never expect to get paid back. Oh, really? Because you're expecting to get paid for doing this one for free advertising for aid in surgery.

So which is it, Jen? She's so full of shit. What was the last time she threw a charity event on this show, by the way? I'm just trying to remember. I actually, I'm sure she threw something. I feel like she threw something for her brother. But a gay thing, but I don't remember if it was a charity event. I'm saying is maybe you do a gay thing and she did like a jewelry thing. I'm not saying it from like a like a gotcha thing. I'm just like, I really am trying to remember what her last charity thing was so I could like go do the research.

So anyway, Dolores, Dolores like you know what I wrote it off as it's her first time. I don't think she had a lot of experience. Yeah, but she should have experience of how to be grateful, baby. We squashed it, okay? You squashed them just, you know, now I got your number, baby. And then we go back to Melissa and she's like, but are you feeling it from Teresa? Because, you know, like they're upset that you're cool with me and Rachel now, right? I mean, and look at Jackie, like she's just, you know, Jackie tried to rip my head off, you know? And she said, you're mad at me because I'm friends with Teresa. And I'm like confused. I'm like, Jackie, are you good girl? Who's mad? Who's mad? Like, what do I care who's friends with Teresa? So are you friends with Teresa? She mad that

you're friends with me? Is she mad? Is she furious? And then we go back to the healing center and Dolores like, you know what? It was a three ring circus in there and Margaret and Jackie got into it. Okay. I'm, you know, I go, I didn't expect you all to yell at her like that. And she goes, well, she's mad at me because you didn't tag her in your post on Instagram for the soft book. Am I going, you fucking kidding me? She's mad about that. So she writes, she tagged everybody, but me. Okay. Everyone. I want everyone to listen. Okay. Zen sensations lady. Listen in. Okay. Buddha,

you hearing? And then she says she's a fucking slob and I fucking hate her. It sounds like, Oh, you know me. I was trying to defend Jack the Gold Sniper, but I can't even defend that baby. I can't even defend it baby. And so then back with Danielle she's like, I don't blame Igo one bit for sending that text message cause that was savage. But if I'm gonna call it and let all this like, listen like when like middle fingers, you like she's gonna be left on the floor. Like Theresa, like we Theresa was best friends. We say best friends on you. Boys, I must tell you that right now.

I'm telling you that right now. So back at the Zantuary, it's also I'll tell you about Jackie. Jackie thinks she's fucking better than me and she thought she was better than you and she thought she was better than you and she thought she was better than you and she Thought she was better than that. The Koch alligator there in the corner. Okay, you know what? She still thinks she's better than the two of you and by the way Buddha over there. Guess what? She thinks she's fucking better than you too lady holding the Buddha. Okay, and Jessica crystal I bet you thought you out of this one. Guess what? She thinks she's better than you too, Jessica

You know what? She calls you Buddha? Ozempic Buddha. Hope you're okay with that. All right. So, you know, she's just a user. She needs you, Teresa. She's saying, let me make friends with Teresa so that I can sell more of my book because she's popular. And Teresa's like, oh.

Who cares about that? Thank you, like, who cares? She's a fucking bitch. She's a fucking stupid bitch. Dolores. This is... by the way, this is how to worm your way into Teresa's heart. She just wants to use you because you're so popular you're gonna sell more copies of her book. She's like, thank you!

She's like, exactly. Finally she realized. So she goes, yeah, who cares? Like... This is so funny because this is just Teresa refusing to be subtle again. She goes, yeah, cares about Jackie. All right. I just need her because I want Margaret to be exposed. Like not even using Jackie, like just saying the saying the quiet part out loud. Like, you know, you're on camera, right? You know, like we know you're having these conversations. We just didn't think you'd ever have them on com on camera, you know, so funny I love it. And she's like, yeah, you know Jackie always thought she was the smartest person in the room. Oh, please

She's sadly mistaken. You know, it's a bitch comma comma is a bitch. All right, it's why I don't use them in sentences only periods So I think Teresa's like fuck Jackie right now because she's trying to show loyalty to Dolores I think Teresa is like, fuck Jackie right now, because she's trying to show loyalty to Dolores. But this is not going to affect anything that Teresa's planned to court Jackie and use her against Margaret. Right, because she's stated her mission to use Jackie just to expose Margaret, which we see her try and do later with such a ham-histed manner.

It's hilarious. So she's like, I mean, you know that Margaret's the root of all evil, right? And Jackie and Margaret was like this, crossing the fingers. Pete Slauson Do we know why Margaret's the root of all evil for Teresa, by the way? Like, I think they've alluded to something that Margaret has done, but we don't actually know what it is yet, right? Jared Slauson No, we know. It's because they're accusing Margaret of all the stuff that came out about

Louie last year, the video with a video of him at that mail retreat and all that. They're saying that Margaret contacted Louie's ex and was talking to Louie's ex and getting all of this dirt on Louie and then giving it to all the bloggers. And that's why all that stuff was exposed. Yeah, honestly, I just, I, maybe I have a Margaret bias, honestly, and I don't care, because it's a TV show, but like, I just don't actually see Margaret doing that. I see Margaret gossiping about it, but I don't see her.

I see Margaret reading about it and being, because that lady was in People Magazine. She had a whole thing of like running across the country in her wedding dress to talk about her narcissistic abuse, ex-husband or whatever it's called. And so she was already in people. But I do see Margaret being like, Oh my God, did you see this lady in the wedding dress in People magazine? This is insane. I'm calling her on zoom. Who wants to, Lexi, you're going to be here. Joe, make us some iced coffee. All right. We're about to get some serious gossip from this girl. Call Serena from Ten of Fly. Tell her to get over here.

Although to be fair, Margaret did. Didn't she like try to buy one of the pizza ovens? Now here's the thing. Even if Margaret did do this, Theresa reached out to Laura and was like, love, like, tell me all the shit about Melissa. Like the point is, Theresa has done all the same things that she's accusing Margaret of. And like she accuses Margaret of when Margaret sees something on social media is like, Oh my God, what the fuck is this? She's like, you're the one who spread it. But then Teresa comes on this season and it's like, but I saw something on social media about John Fuda or I heard a rumor about

Evan Goldknighter. So Teresa is just as guilty about all this, which is why she never wins in my book. But she is winning this season because the one thing that Teresa knows how to because Teresa is really thick. So she's just like bling, bling, bling, bling, bling. And she smiles and is like, whatever. But like Margaret is furious. Margaret and Rachel Fuda are furious this season. And so every time we go to them, honestly, it reads like bitterness. They read like two bitter people right now. I'm not saying they are, I'm saying it reads that way.

And so I think the audience is like, you know what? They're just two mean people. And Teresa, you know what? I kind of like Teresa. And it's just like, they need to be laughing it off and then be like, oh, whatever, she's ridiculous. I'm moving on my fabulous life because they're gonna lose in the public sphere.

Yeah, and I think the difference in these shows always and what is going to work with the audience or what's not is fun. Teresa is funny. Like she's hilarious because she's so, like I said, ham-fisted and all of this and like, I'm using it to get to Marge, you know, like that's hilarious because she's just such a dummy and Marge is just plain angry and she's teaming up with people who are not fun. The food is not fun. You can like them, you can not like them. I don't care. Like it doesn't even matter. I don't hate. I'm not a hater. I like them. Okay. I think they're fine, but they're not fun. So to Marge has always been fun. That's always been her saving grace and it's turning into not fun. And I think that's, yeah, that's, that's going to

be the problem. That's exactly, that's exactly correct. And actually last season John Futa was fun this season summer Nice chill drug dealer guys. We all love a nice children. Just be a drug to be proud of your drug dealing days That's still a fucking business. This is America. Okay, we respect entrepreneurship in this country And even if it was drugs you still built yourself up and did something. I've watched all the drug shows. I mean, you probably would have been my hero at some point in one of those shows. Be proud of yourself. Be proud. Yeah. And the thing is this Margaret sees hypocrisy and sees the double standards that are in Teresa's life and it infuriates her. But that's ultimately what caused like she's going to sit there infuriated. Teresa is gonna sit there just like blissfully

and be like whatever and be happy. And ultimately like Teresa wins over and over and over again because she's just sort of like blissfully like, I'm just Teresa. And yeah, they just gotta change up their vibe. So she was like, yeah, Marge is the root of all evil and Jackie and Margaret were like this. And so Jen's like, yeah,

and Jackie's the gatekeeper to Margaret's arsenal. She's like every single secret that anyone's ever told Margaret. Margaret's told to me so I can destroy her. Okay. But then why are you guys saying that Margaret's the one who's always going to destroy everybody when Margaret hasn't done it? If Margaret has all of this stuff, you would all be destroyed by now. Cause I'm sure she has, if she was really the type of person to bring out every single thing. And I'm sure that people are going to say, well, she did pull out that text. That was a very innocent text to pull out.

Because you know Jackie said 100 times worse. And that was a pretty innocent text to be like, bitch, don't fuck with me at this party right now. You know? But she would have used all of this info she has on all of you already. So I don't understand why she's getting the blame for it when Jackie's the one walking around bragging that she can use the information and ruin everybody. I know they really do.

They obsess over Margaret's arsenal. When the people who are digging into the past the most and weaponizing it against people are Jennifer and Teresa, like for years. This episode, like, you know, there are they are constantly going into their arsenals, but it's it's hilarious. They just they just use it right against her, you know? So now they're basically like Teresa again, just right on the nose. Yeah, she definitely has a mouth on her.

So she better fucking use it and go against fucking Margaret, because I just want to take that bitch down. I'm like, was's this, revenge? It's so funny. Family van camp. So then we go to the foodas and Margaret comes and Rachel's like, since the dynamic between Jen Fester and I has changed quite drastically, Margaret and I have gotten closer.

She's got a maternal instinct. Oh my God, my flower hurts. Hold on. Honey, could you bring me my amyloid cream for the flower on the front of my dress? Thanks. So, Margaret comes in. I desperately want some coffee. Here is some coffee. Hi, sugar.

Okay, what's going on? I'm sorry to interrupt you, but the word was so funny about that to me. She goes, there's something very maternal about Margaret. And sometimes she gets a bad rap because she's very direct. And then it comes to Margaret going, I desperately need coffee. Wow. I understand that bad rap now.

Totally understand it. Walking in, needing coffee. What a monster. Wow. She's like, but you know what? But those, but if you really get to know her for who she is, she really is a great person and a great friend. So she's like, okay, everyone, I got stuff for the girls.

Okay. I got all the girls child size Sn creamer for when they want to have their first coffee. Okay, there you go, sweetheart. So she's, look at this baby Joel. It looks exactly like me. Okay, it's my gold face. Go, run away little, run away. And Rachel's like, she's a little swollen.

I'm so sorry because we got her tongue tie thing done. You know the tie. Okay, everybody, do you have an extra 10 minutes? I'm going to talk about my tongue lip tie, child. And so she goes and starts talking about whatever that is. This is the time to go to the bathroom part of reverse. For anyone who ever wanted to see a toddler's mouth on the inside, like this is okay, everyone, this is what her tongue looked like before. And this is what looked like after. And now here are all the details about cutting the skin away from the tongue. And listen, poor kid, you know, good for her. I'm glad.

I'm so glad they got this taken care of. I'm there's no ill will towards a child, obviously, you know, but I'm like, girl, no one needs 10 minutes of this. Okay. F F. So then they go outside to the backyard, and Rachel's like, oh, it's a little nippy out here. Babe, babe, it smells like dog shit out here. And Marcus, it does not smell like dog shit. I won't have you talk about your backyard that way. Listen, you know how long I've been standing up

for your backyard ever since it was born, right? Rachel Fuda, you need to have more confidence. Okay, don't talk about your backyard like that. You got to talk about what's good about it. Okay, I don't smell any dog shit. What I smell is... I will not have that, Evan. I will not have it.

I will not have that coming out of your mouth. You put a lot of effort into this backyard. Okay, it smells like nature, not dog shit. Yeah, so then we talk about donuts and tongue tied, whatever. And then we have that some more. And then we talk about that some more. By the way, Bravo, great job blurring out the Dunkin' Donuts logo.

We definitely couldn't tell it was Dunkin' Donuts. So Rachel's like, and then on top of that, I don't feel good either because I need another patch because my shoulder, the arthritis, it's more frustrating than it is anything because you almost take your health for granted when you feel good. And then before you know it, ow, my shoulder hurts. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's just terrible how life works. One minute you're up, you don't even know how up you are until your shoulder hurts. And then you're like,

you know what? I should have been happier yesterday when my shoulder didn't hurt. I wish someone would have told me. You know, I'm sorry about your sore shoulder, but I'm going to one up it, okay, and tell you about Joe's PSA. Okay, he had some routine blood work. And guess what? His PSA jumped so high, I freaked out. And I know what you're thinking. It does not mean public service numbers, right? Public service announcement, Rachel. Okay, just calm down. So Margaret's afraid. I know, because at first he told me, you know what, I'm going to have a PSA. And I said, I've got a PSA. I want some coffee right now, Joe.

Here's a PSA. Your backyard smells delicious. Stop talking like that. What is the sentation in here? Smells amazing. Smells amazing. Get a crystal. It'll absorb all the smells.

Jessica Crystal, get over here. Yeah, get a crystal. It'll absorb all the smells. Jessica Crystal, get over here. Jessica Crystal is a short court reporter, Crystal. You can't trust that bitch. Jessica Crystal has been trying to get on the show for years and years. And I said, look, you've got a bad haircut. You're a court reporter. You've got other things you need to do, Jessica Crystal. So this is serious though. So Joe thought maybe... We're such assholes.

Sorry. So they started talking about how Joe could have cancer. Some are just, you know, rightfully crying and they're like, I love you. I love you. You're a good person. You're a good person. Okay. We've done with a good person, good people who have medical emergencies happening every five minutes

Okay, let's talk about that bitch to me No, you know what? You know what it is? I don't even want to talk about Teresa How about this you know with that Melissa's party? You know, I was dealing this whole thing with Joe and then that Jackie that fucking psycho Okay, so I'll tell you just not like dog shit. Not your backyard Jackie Goldschneider. Okay. She was such an asshole psycho Go psycho dog shit smelling lunatic And you want this route? She's a nasty cup fitness there I said it and she goes to Dolores one of my closest friends and talked shit about me

Really really and that was my point when I sent that text, you know Because I sent it to say what you're gonna talk shit about me Well, I got it on you and then Jackie tells Dolores that I talked shit about Polly and Dolores, that was a big retaliation. Police. Police. Police. So you feel like you were defending yourself?

Defending myself? I was absolutely defending myself, you idiot. Do you have this flower in your brain also? Come on, Rachel. And Rachel's like, well, I feel like that was a little low, Margaret. Okay, that was a little too low. She's like, you know what, you know what would have been low? If I would have fucking screenshotted everything that she said for the last six years, which I did, that was low. I've got it. I've got them all here. I can use them whenever I want to. I've got them all right here.

Listen. That would have been low. It's just showing a glimpse. Like, that was just showing a glimpse of like that person's character and what they're capable of. And a glimpse into my life of what I fucking put up with, which is having to take on all these insults about people being slobs. It's a lot for me.

It's a lot. She goes, you know what I did? I stuck it right up her ass with that text message. Right up. And now she's nervous. That's why I'll always love Margaret, okay? And I said earlier in the recap, she's veering towards not fun,

but at the end of the day, she's still fucking funny. I mean, she's still, I just, I had like, I love her. I apologize for nothing. I can shut that up her ass. And you know what? She's a cup fitness too. There, it's set. You know what?

Whoa, now I think she's nervous. There's nothing to be nervous about. I'm never going to show another text message. You idiot. Rachel food. I can't believe this is my ally now. So, uh, rates was like, oh my God. And by the way, do not text me. What am I going to test you again? All you do is send me pictures of tongue tied children. And I'm not going to be texting you.

What did the fucking Krispy Kreme breakdown? Come on. Tung Tung Tide children. And Duncan Jonas. I'm not going to be texting you. What? To the fucking Krispy Kreme breakdown? Come on. Duncan. Hey, everyone, this is the end of part one of this recap for part two. Keep an eye on your podcast feed. It is coming up in just a moment.

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