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This is part two of a two part recap if you're like hey wait a minute I didn't hear part one guys because we put out a lot of recaps go back and listen to part one okay it's before this one.
So then.
So that we go to Paul and Dolores they go to the gym they don't go to her gym her former gym gym with maz. They go to a different gym with Frank, but not Frank, Frank.
Frank Frank, who else would it be?
Who else would own a gym here named Frank?
Yeah, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, different Frank.
So Paul is like, they go in and he's like, Oh, Frank, I actually think I'm
going to change his name because I can't fucking deal with any more Franks.
I'm like, your name is Molly and you live in New Jersey.
Can you look in the mirror here, sir?
So they talk about her lemon pants, I guess.
He's like, I got to squeeze those lemons.
They're looking good there.
And they start talking about how much he's lost
because he's like having a glow up.
She's like, how's your glow up, Polly?
How are you feeling with your glow up? He's like, how's your glow up poorly?
How are you feeling with your glow up?
He's like, how's your glow up feeling?
I don't want any more surgery on you.
You're not getting any more surgery
or I'm not ever getting a divorce.
God damn, these men trying to tell me
when I can and cannot get surgery.
Let me tell you, this is my body.
This is a full-time job keeping all of this up, okay?
You think focaccia iguanas make themselves adults?
You think you think you could just walk from the kitchen to the living room,
back to the kitchen again? No, those are my choices. So,
she's talking about how all these men are trying to tell her about their body.
And we see flashbacks to David and she's somehow differentiating this from David
because she's like, you know, in a lot of ways,
Paulie has shown me commitment.
He's lost 14 pounds, David never did that.
He doesn't park a motorcycle in the living room.
That's helpful.
He did put a focaccia in the shape of a motorcycle
in the living room.
You know what, baby steps.
Baby steps is what we're taking in this relationship.
So, uh, he's, then they start talking about Jackie and she's like, Oh my God,
Jackie, she's a nuclear bomb right now.
Cause Theresa and Jane Aiden are going to squeeze her and anything you ever
said about anybody is going to be repeated.
All right.
So you might want to let me hear it for you, but from you, before I hear it from
her, you know what I'm saying?
And he's like, what are people are looking to take blows. The people afraid. Nobody's safe. Nobody's
safe. Nobody's safe.
So now we go over to the Cabral household where Danielle and Nate are getting ready
for the big Tulum party. And Danielle's like, I think it's a hedonism. Like I don't think
that, I don't like, I think of hedonism when I think of the loom is that off and he's
Like uh, is it off if I tell you I don't even know what hedonism is because you don't know what hedonism is
It's like a vacation where people get naked and do crazy sex things
It's like okay, so both of you don't know what hedonism is the answer not what it is
Yeah, I guess I'd be an example of Margaret. Yeah, I guess that would be an example of hedonism.
Margaret just opens the door.
Okay, you idiots, hedonism is needed in those things.
Get a dictionary.
I'm so frustrated right now.
Spend an afternoon with Rachel Fuda serving me stale donuts in her backyard that smell
like dog shit.
Okay, goodbye.
You know what hedonism is?
Fashion advice for Joe.
He done needism.
Needs it, okay?
So Dolores and Polly, back to Dolores and Polly.
So now everybody's getting ready.
That was really stupid, I'm sorry.
I love that.
He done needs it.
Dolores and Polly getting ready for this.
That was for you, Joan.
That was what?
That was for you, Joan.
That was for you, Joan.
All right, P. Joan.
Okay, all right, Joan.
Yeah, Dolores and Paulie are getting ready
and she's trying to come up with like a flowy outfit
or whatever and Paulie is like,
oh, your outfit though, like,
this, this, this, your outfit really goes
with my sombrero more.
And she's like, ah, Paul,
I don't think this is a sombrero type of party.
Could you imagine if you showed up at this thing?
First of all, don't show up
in a some if you're okay if you know party is a sombrero party. The sombrero game and
let me just help you out here. No party is a sombrero unless you're actually in a band.
A mariachi band. A mariachi band where you're playing it sincerely. Even that would be questionable.
But if you're just like a white guy from New
Jersey at a party that has a vaguely Mexican quality to it, don't show up at the Applebee's
happy hour. Paul. Okay. Not there either, Paul. All right. It's not a Semprero type
of party. I feel like I could just put Dolores quotes from this entire season together and be happy. I would be happy with the entire season if it was
just all Dolores quotes. This isn't a sombrero type of party, Paul.
How many times does she has to say that to Paul though? It's like, Paul, it's a Gatsby party. It's not a sombrero party. So, um, then we go over to the Aiden house and she's like putting a headpiece on and
stuff and he's in his favorite place, the couch, the couch bed, the bed couch. He goes,
Ooh, you look so eccentric in your headpiece. You know, one thing I love is head. How you like it, Bill? You missed Tulum when we went there for our 50th. It's like you're
in the jungle by a complete spa sanctuary. It's not like Zantuary, but a real sanctuary.
But like, I don't know how Xana's going to be tonight knowing all the drama that went
down at the Gorgas household party, Bill.
I remember you being in Tulum. Talk about hedonism.
In Tulum?
No, here.
Pool House.
Twenty twenty four in the pool.
I'm sorry. What were you saying?
Yeah.
It's just a kind of a party bill.
Also, did you notice that felt like every time they cut to Jennifer
in the scene, they like had face to enter.
It was like she suddenly had no facial features.
She just was like two eyes and like two holes
where the nose was.
It was like, they put some sort of AI filter on her face
in this scene.
I don't know why.
So then it's really in that bedding.
They're like, Jennifer, Aiden actually got fired
after the fight scene and we needed to do some pickups.
So it's in that bed thing with an AI face.
And that's just gonna do anything to get that Oscar.
That's like, listen, I will work my way back up into the Oscar
voters good graces.
There's a fox on the block, baby. Pizza bagel.
I would never do that to one of my hair girls.
So back to Nate and Danielle Danielle and they're just talking about like, Oh, it was the first time
Dolores and Jackie are going to be together since the slob remark. And then we cut to,
we go back to Dolores and Paul. Everyone's like talking like, Oh my God, they're getting
like Jackie and Dolores, Jackie and Dolores. So now we're back to the Aiden's and Jennifer's
like, Oh, I think this is going gonna be a great way for me and Teresa
to get to show Jackie, you know,
that we're not gonna be friends with you
like the way Margaret's friends with you.
We're gonna be like real friends, baby.
And Danielle at her house is like-
Is that being a real friend to Dolores right now
or just wondering?
Yeah, well, I think she's saying
we're gonna be real friends with her
and tell her that wasn't right, what she said about Dolores. Oh, that's what we're saying. Right, they're gonna be honest with her. And so then, I think that I think she's saying we're gonna be real friends with her and tell her that wasn't right what she said
Oh, that's what you're saying, right? They're gonna be honest with her. And so then back at the cabral house, then he was like, yeah
Yeah, I'm actually real excited to see Jack and Theresa together
I just tried to figure out if they both know they using each other's one will use the
one doesn't know what the cool is
one uses neither one, neither one's cool is
it's like crazy they don't even know what the fuck they use they don't know what they ain't know what I'm not the coolest, the one with the most eyes, the one with the most glues, the one crazy, they don't even know what the fuck they want to know, but they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm saying, they ain't know what I'm gonna go with Rachel, hang out with Melissa, because I don't wanna go, because Jen was at a bar, and she was like, hey, I don't even know.
Yeah, so then back to Pauline and Dolores,
she was like, let me tell you, yesterday,
when we met at the meditation place,
Jen was still complaining about the Danielle fundraiser.
Like, they have some disagreements, her and Danielle.
I mean, I hope they don't go that low with each other.
It's like low enough now. You know what I mean?
Are there any more slob texts?
Just let me know.
Just let me know.
Just warn me now.
Hey, you know things between me and Danielle
may be tense tonight, okay?
It's been festering, it's been stepping and repeating
and like a logo, okay?
And like every time I see another example
of something that she does,
adds to my disappointment in her character.
Okay, I'm gonna mute throughout.
Lena, poor sweet Lena who I only met last week, baby.
And then we see a flashback of Lena telling her story
without, of course, also neglecting to mention
that Lena was dragging Laura up into the VIP section too.
Yes, and seeing that Lena's a nobody nobody who does that to Paulina baby.
So then, um, she's like, yeah,
I just think that Danielle's tacking selfish and I have no idea why Teresa would
want to bring her into this group, let alone be friends with, be friends with me.
So then Danielle back to Danielle said, I don't know what the grievance was that
one, but I heard things is what kind of fresh she is.
And now she's coming up with these accusations.
Those are horrible.
And I don't do shit like that.
You don't vibe with me.
OK, but I'm going to have a problem.
If you keep talking about me to that one, then that one talks about me to that one.
And then that one talks about me to that one.
You got another thing coming, bitch.
So then we go over to Teresa's house and Gia comes down to the kitchen.
She's like, Oh my God, mom, your hair looks so good.
And she's like, Yeah, you like it.
Yeah. You didn't tell me you're doing anything fun.
Like I would have done something fun.
I'm like, Gia, you haven't done something fun since you turned 18.
Let's be honest. You went off to Rutgers and your soul disappeared. You're just like, Hi, everyone on Gia, you guys.
I can't wait to see their show. You know about that, right? That it's called making it New
York. It's all the kids are Bravo. It's going to be Gia Brooks marks. No, that's all I remember
really. What's all the kids are Bravo. That's who I remember.
We'll have to talk about it at crappy hour next week. Um, but uh, yeah,
it's a show starring all the kids living in New York city filming together.
Wow. Is it Lauren Manzo going to be in the mix?
And I think Lauren is, but I think Riley is.
Is Riley's stepsister. What's your name? No, Kayla.
Hi, I'm Kayla. I'm gonna make it in fashion.
What did I say? It's called making it in the city, right?
Making it in the city. That is wild. I wonder if Dorinda's daughter is going to be on it.
Dorinda's daughter is older than these kids though.
Bravo. Yeah, I don't think so. Her daughter's too awkward. No offense. Okay. Two new shows coming
to Bravo, Making it Manhattan and On Safari.
Making It Manhattan, cast rumor, Bravo's problem. And this is Reddit. So let me see here.
There's still testing phase. Well, this was a long time ago, but I think it's more
really happening now. But let's see. Dylan and Brooks are said to have a little fling. I don't
know. Oh my gosh. Riley Burris, Connor Kennedy, who is JFK's great nephew, Ava Dash, Brooks Marks, Ming Lee Simmons,
Gia Giudice, and YouTuber Dylan Geik? Geik? Geek? Geik? So yeah. Wow. Speak of times.
We're in. We'll keep an eye on that. Okay. So, Teresa, imagine Brooks and G in a scene together.
Brooks, what are you doing to make it in Manhattan? I'm working on joggers in Manhattan.
What are you doing? I'm thinking I will represent pizza ovens and cases.
Wow. So back at the party, Teresa for her Tulum party has made Portuguese custard cups. So we're staying on theme here. And then she was like, well, there shouldn't be any drama.
So you shouldn't so like you shouldn't forget the dessert. I don't know about that. Because
Jackie's coming and Jackie called Laura's a slob.
And she's like, Oh my God, a slob. Why would she even do that?
That's the worst thing you can do.
Does she know that you don't do that in Patterson?
Gia's also like doing her makeup and she was looking in this like mirror.
That's like a decorative mirror that has all sorts of like stuff on it.
I'm like, Gia just just use the regular mirror, please.
Yeah.
What was she doing in the mirror?
Was she flicking her brow?
She was doing something crazy in that mirror.
I couldn't tell what she was doing.
I don't know, I just was like,
why are you using this terrible mirror right now?
Okay, so then are we, yeah.
So then we go to the Tulum party.
So Theresa goes back saying,
oh my God, I brought Tulum to my house.
Thanks everybody for bringing Tulum here.
Where's the bongo guy?
And then they show her,
who's of course Teresa's like this.
They're like Bruno, the bongo guy in quotations.
And she's like, I play the bongos.
Bongo, bongo, bongo.
I play the bongos. Okay, Sheila tree over there. So then everyone's
like showing Teresa is not a sombrero party. So the Buddha head is there it is the Buddha
head. And everyone's showing a blank Jennifer Aiden's like, hi honey, hey, I didn't come to play,
I came to slay baby.
Yeah, so Danielle's coming in
and she sees the glitter and freaks out.
She's like, oh my God, free glitter?
I'm the glitter girl.
Whoa, you got glitter?
Fuck it, they give me some glitter, bitch.
So she starts doing her glitter.
And then Jen is talking to Teresa.
She's like,
Tulum, what's up, fine.
Remember we went to Tulum.
I went to Tulum with Teresa's birthday, everybody.
I was there, me, Jen.
Teresa's birthday in Tulum.
We're besties.
And Jen, and you know,
Teresa's like, yeah, we went.
We took a private jet. And Jen Fester's like, wow. And Jennifer, Teresa's like, yeah, we went, we took a private jet.
And Jen Fester's like, wow.
And Jennifer Aiden's like,
yeah, it was my first time on a private jet.
Well, I've never even had a first time.
Which is their way of saying like,
yeah, you hang out with our team, you get a private jet.
You hang out with Melissa's team,
you get like a Toyota Corolla taking you
to like the Meadowlands.
Yeah, and Melissa's probably made out with the driver of it.
Yeah.
And Jen Fester's like,
wait, wait, Margaret who? Am I right? Margaret who?
If I get a private plane over here, Margaret who?
So they're like laughing or whatever.
And then Danielle, all the ladies start gathering and saying hi.
And they're asking about Jackie.
So Jen's like, so Dolores, have you seen Jackie since the last night?
She's like, no, but you said she's coming, right?
Yeah, she's gonna come, huh?
So then Gia walks up and says hi,
and Dolores is like, you know what?
I'm just done with her.
I haven't even heard from her, okay?
And she's like, yeah, well, maybe she'll say something
to you here, or maybe she'll say something about Margaret and done with her. I haven't even heard from her, okay? And she's like, yeah, well, maybe she'll say something
to you here, or maybe she'll say something
about Margaret and expose her to everyone.
Huh?
It's a little late for me.
It's a little bit late for me.
So Jackie comes up and, you know, she is like,
oh my God, congrats on your book.
She's just like, thank you, did you use too much coke? Just kidding, just kidding.ats on your back. Thank you. Did you see Coke? Just kidding.
It's funny. We can laugh about this now, right?
You know what? Not everybody is for everybody. Just like not every sombrero is for every party.
Paul, I can't believe you brought it.
Paul, come on, Paul.
Come on, Paul.
So then, Dolores. So Jackie comes up to the party.
She's coming out, wait, speaking of her,
she's coming in now, Jackie's coming.
So Jackie comes and Dolores just walks away.
And she goes, I learned a long time ago,
let somebody destroy themselves.
Sometimes they can do it better than you.
And I just sit back and watch.
I literally watched Maz protein fart himself to death. Has anybody heard from Maz? No.
Yeah, I was there that night. Frank fell down that flight of stairs, quote unquote fell, slash was
pushed by someone. I don't know. I was there. I watched the whole thing. I didn't say a thing.
I just watched him destroy himself. So then Jennifer, Jennifer Festler is like, so what's
going on? What are we huddled about?
Are we talking about airplanes again?
Private jets first times and Jennifer Aiden's like, no, we're just talking about
the lawyers. She was just mentioning that would have been nice if Jacket sent
tax the next day.
And Jackie said, well, no, I mean, I felt funny, you know, like, you know how bad
I felt, you know, like, do you think I would talk?
Do you think I should talk to the lawyers tonight?
You guys think I should do that?
And Jen's like, of course you should!
Let me ask you something.
Did you really write a hater?
Did you really write that baby?
She goes, well, in the moment I did hate her.
She's like, Jackie, that's kind of extreme.
That's us, Jen.
Jen hater.
Where we know when we find out where this night is going, Jen's such a hypocrite.
I know.
She's like a pre-hypocrite.
So, she's like, I mean, look,
I was just venting in the moment, you know, like about the fact that Margaret exposing
like that, that hurt Dolores too. This is Margaret being hurtful.
Yeah, but do you think that Margaret cares that Dolores is going to be insulted, baby?
Jack is like, I don't know. I mean, I'm actually surprised.
Well, she hasn't objected to sabotage.
Okay. Well, I know you guys have your differences and I really always thought she was a good person and she's like
Oh my gosh, she's a terrible human being. I know she's your friend, like, but she's like horrible. She's like fucking horrible.
She's a horrible human being. Horrible!
And finally Jen Festler's like, you know, maybe I shouldn't be here for this. You guys go ahead.
I'm gonna walk away from this
because I am friends with Margaret,
but have fun bashing her.
I'll just be right over there.
Which this wouldn't count for standing up for Margaret,
but I get it, but I will not be here.
So that's something, right?
At this point you're kinda being a shitty friend.
She is.
At first I could say, okay,
you're allowed to be friends with other people on the cast.
It's not cool to try and stop you from that.
But at this point, when people are like,
literally that woman is satanic
and the worst person in the world,
and you're just like, oh, I'll just walk over there
while you continue this.
Yeah, they're literally calling Margaret
the root of all evil.
And she's like, well, I think I should probably walk away.
I'll just say, like, I don't think this is appropriate.
This is not appropriate.
I'm just gonna walk over here.
She says it so quietly, they don't even hear her say it.
And she, they didn't even notice that she walks away.
Yeah.
So then, yeah, Fessor kind of sucks in this moment.
So then Jackie's like, oh my God,
but it was just so low of Margaret to show that.
Sorry, Jackie.
You know, you started this shit, Jackie.
You don't get to like play a victim on this one.
I'm surprised Jackie is losing this badly in the season.
I always thought Jackie,
I always really respected her ability
to go up against Teresa, to not give a shit.
And even today when they're showing clips of her being like,
oh please, you didn't even write your own books.
You know, all of that.
I love that, Jackie.
Who is this?
Who is this person?
It's wild.
I don't understand it at all.
So, Teresa's like, you know what though,
I heard that you said that she said
horrible things about Dolores and Paul,
so do you wanna go over to Dolores
and tell her all the things that Margaret said about him?
Maybe you can do that.
She's like, no I can't, I can't,
I can't be that person, Tree, I really can't.
No, no, no, listen, ex my friend, I I'm begging you, please talk shit about Margaret. They're the ones.
Please, I just want them to open their eyes. And she goes, well, I need to get a drink
first. She goes, all right, get a drink.
So Tree says like, okay, no, I'll play you with alcohol openly. So then they head to
the bar and then this new friend of arrives again. She's not doing anything.
She keeps trying.
They keep giving her full on entrances, right?
I know.
They keep giving Tiffany and her lips big entrances,
but she hasn't done anything.
So meanwhile, Louis and Miller are talking.
The guys are talking and Louis is like,
hey, I'm not wearing any undies today.
He's like, mm, nice and loose, Tarzan, baby.
Mm, sounds like there's something for me to swing off.
Mm.
You Tarzan, me. Mm, sounds like there's something for me to swing off of. Mm.
You Tarzan, me Jane, am I right? Mm.
Mm.
Uh, and then Polly's like,
oh, you're never fucking borrowing any of my pants.
Ha ha!
No one is borrowing any of your pants, okay?
Some of us need circulation in our legs.
I know, I was about to say, your size, small pants.
Christ, you look like a brand new tube of toothpaste.
Nobody is borrowing those pants.
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So Jackie goes up to Dolores, well, she's talking to the gents, but she goes up to Dolores
and she's like, can we talk?
And so Dolores is like, all right, go ahead.
She's like, listen, you know how sorry I am.
And when we were having that conversation, you know, like my stomach turns and I just don't know what to say to Loris. You know,
and Loris is like, listen, it's just kind of like pulling a wedding ring. I'm just not
going to buy that. Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, can I just tell you something? And so it's
like, well, not about what was said. Look, I did something that was shitty, but the real bad guy in this situation is Margaret.
She said terrible things about everybody.
She vented to me about everybody.
I mean, everybody has vented about everybody.
So it's like, okay, what's your point?
Well, yeah, but if that's true, then what's your argument?
Is your argument that everybody's vented
so you shouldn't be in trouble for venting
or that Margaret's the worst person in the world
for venting?
Yeah, exactly.
You're terrible at this. You're a lawyer. Like get it together. So Jackie's like, yeah, that's why I'm so upset shouldn't be in trouble for venting or that Margaret's the worst person in the world for venting. Yeah, exactly.
You're terrible at this. You're a lawyer. Like get it together. So Jackie's like, yeah,
that's why I'm so upset because I hurt you. But also because it's like the end. Like I
just don't know how I ever forgive Margaret. I don't know how I ever forgive Margaret.
That's why I'm so upset because it's, I'm mad at Margaret right now. And Dolores goes,
you know what? Sometimes friendships need to break. She's like, yeah, they do. And so
does this one.
She was like, oh, didn't realize I set myself up for that.
Like Delores, come on.
She goes, yeah, whatever.
So she tells us I could give a fuck
about Jackie's hurt feelings.
I mean, Jackie talks a lot of shit
and that's why she's in this mess.
Stop running your mouth.
You do not get on Dolores's bad side.
So she's like, listen, if I didn't care about you,
I wouldn't be standing here fighting for this.
No, I honestly don't.
You know what, Jackie, I'm so tired.
I'm really, I'm tired.
I'm literally exhausted.
Do you know how many times I had to take that sombrero
off of Paulie's head?
I'm tired, my arms are tired today.
I literally found the sombrero tied to the top of the car.
So you think I'm not gonna see it when I get out of the car, Paulie? I saw the sombrero tied to the top of the car. So do you think I'm not going to see it when I get out of the car,
Paulie? I saw the sombrero. It's not a sombrero party, Paul.
You know, she did a thing and I'm devastated, devastated by what she did.
Well, that's something you're going to have to deal with. Goodbye.
So she just walks off. She says, there's no friendship here. No love lost.
Goodbye. Like damn the coldness. Remember Dolores, don't forget, Delores has never truly loved Jackie.
They've had several flare ups.
And she, remember she said, we're cut from a different cloth.
You know, she, like, she's always been like, it's been an uneasy friendship.
And so this was like, fuck her.
Yeah.
She finally has permission to not fake it anymore.
Basically.
So then, um, uh, party, party, party.
Bill is rubbing Jen's boob and said, you're feeling my booby baby.
I'm warming you up.
You said warm me up.
Didn't you?
I thought it was Joe Gorgas bought for a moment there.
Too bad.
So then, um, Danielle is Danielle and Teresa are talking and talking about how beautiful everything is.
And Danielle was like, you know, I wanted to check with you because I feel like we have
a talk all season about this, but my bougie brunch was fantastic.
I just want to make sure we're good.
You know, sure.
No, yeah, we're good.
I just said, you know what?
It's like you got people in your head like my grandma, the worst person in the world, the other worst person in the world.
The worst thing will be to have someone in your ear when you want to think someone like the root of all evil Margaret, you should expose it. Expose her. Expose her. Where's Jackie? Did you expose Margaret yet?
So then they start talking about Jen, which is really what Danielle's here for. So she's like, yeah, like we had a little argument and it's intense and I thought we
were good.
She goes, yeah, well, you should ask her.
So Danielle's like, yeah, I thought we were good.
So Jen comes up.
So Danielle's like, oh, we was just talking about you.
I wanted to talk to you because like, why would you say those things to me?
Why would you say that?
And she's like, I was just shocked to hear that you threw
somebody out.
I just didn't like that.
You know, I mean, you belittling someone,
belittling someone.
You know, when you're on the JNAID and you don't belittle
people, that's just not something I ever do.
And I'm sure there'd be no clips of that whatsoever if
someone wanted to compile that.
So Danielle's like, what, is she? She's talking shit about me. She
was, why she was just saying that you threw out. And then when Lena said it, it just triggered me,
baby. I'm like, does this girl only have television? Like, why does she just consider
other people's feelings? I'm very considerate, baby. And then maybe, then, then maybe like,
why can't she be like me? Considerate. I know. Like woman of the people, Jennifer Aiden's like, why can't she be like me? Consider it. I know, like, woman of the people, Jennifer Aiden.
That's all irrelevant.
And like, it was the fact that, you know, you said things that I stole from charity.
I didn't say you stole from it.
I said you paid yourself back.
And you told me you were paying yourself back and that you would donate.
And after you paid yourself back, you donate.
She goes, pay myself back for what? Okay. So Danielle explains to the audience, because Jen is pretty good at this
by now and is openly saying you're stealing money from a charity and that's not normal.
And when people throw a charity, they put their own money into it and don't expect to
get it back, which is absolute bullshit. That is not true. So Danielle explains how charities work.
And now this is a tricky one because Jen is very convincing
because I'm like, yeah, Danielle's right.
But then I'm like, but Jen's right too,
because then Jen follows it up.
But basically Danielle explains that when you put
a charity event together, it costs money.
You have food, you have vendors,
you have a space that you rent.
That doesn't come out of your own pocket.
That comes out of what you raise for the charity. And then what you make out of the charity,
what you make after all of those bills being paid is what you pay for the charity. But then
Jen says that she said, yeah, but she said after I pay myself for my time, then the rest of them.
So now it sounds like she is paying herself. They're both like super unreliable narrators. Like the way Danielle talks about her issues
with her dad and her brother. I'm always like, there's more than that. I know there's more
than that, but you have a way of like, you know, judging the truth. And then Jennifer
Aiden is like the queen of fil like giving her own filter view of something. So it's hard to know who's right,
but based on like the two claims,
I kind of side with Danielle more.
I don't know how a charity really works.
I really don't.
But like Danielle saying, I wasn't paying myself.
I was paying the vendors for all this,
you know, for coming and helping out.
Like to me that like, am I not,
without being exposed to charity world,
that seemed to make sense to me. And, am I not without being exposed to charity world that seemed to make
sense to me. And then Jennifer saying, no, she said she was getting paid for her time. I'm like,
but did she say that? I don't know. But I kind of am leaning more towards Danielle on this one.
Tim Cynova Okay. So yeah, I don't know, I need more evidence because Danielle makes perfect sense.
But then Jen says things that she says like,
oh, well, I'm going to pay myself back for my time.
Then there are people who do make money,
like charity brokers or people who connect people.
Maybe she's thinking of it like that,
and charity is fucking shady.
I mean, doing catering for so many years.
Like in New York, I would do these big huge balls.
It's just so much money dripping off all of
the rentals and the parties were just hundreds of thousands of dollars,
and waiters with white jackets and gloves service everywhere,
like one waiter for every probably five people in the place.
These insane parties where all the money is being spent basically for these people to have a bougie party to go to,
it seems like a fucking racket.
So I think that Danielle is telling the truth,
but then Jen just keeps making these cases.
So I'm not sure.
I don't know what the-
How mad was Leigh Ann Locken
that she could not be part of this charity fight?
She's probably at home like,
no, I cannot watch this.
This is too difficult for me.
I can't wait for this.
This was supposed to be my moment.
When the parade passes by. This is too difficult for me for this. This was supposed to be my moment.
When the parade passes by.
So then Danielle's, so Jen's like, you know, you say that you're gonna pay yourself.
When I have a charity event, I just pay for all the vendors.
I do all that, which is not true.
I don't believe it.
And she's like, yeah, but you're a multimillionaire.
She's, we're not a multi-ass, we're one,, maybe 1 million, maybe 1 million baby. We're very modest people. And then Danielle
was like, okay, they have like 10 cars, the biggest house in Paramus. Come on.
The shore house, Ferraris and bills not bringing in a million dollars. I mean, see, this is
where this word Jennifer is like, you're like, really? I'm not sure I believe anything you say. I mean,
she literally arranged a whole fake, you know,
Turkish coffee cup reading last season.
And she even was caught and having and telling the fortune teller ahead of time,
like what sort of fortunes to give, you know? So like Jennifer's like,
I don't know. Sure. So then she's like, she turns it to research because she goes,
you know, I said, why didn't you put our names on the step
and repeat, it would have killed,
it would have killed you to put up Aiden Plastic Surgery
when we're just a struggling plastic surgery business
trying to make $200 for the year baby.
Where is this, where is the charity in that, where is it?
And so Danielle's like, oh God, Lena triggered you that much
to try to destroy Beats the person.
She goes, no, there's something else, but I don't wanna say it. She's like, oh god Lena triggered you that much to try to destroy B's the person she says no
There's something else, but I don't want to say it. She's like just say it
No, I can't say it. I would never do it to you. I never said on national television
He could ruin you could ruin everybody after shocks could even ruin Lena
Hey, are you are you using echo echo electricity over there?
Okay, the girl does the hair extensions I was like, oh god another hair person
There's so many fights with the hair people on on the show because there was also
It's like yeah, okay. Well, she asked me to be a model
for what I thought was a master class.
I was like, here's your first problem.
The concept of a master class happening
with anyone associated with this cast.
With hair extensions.
Let me tell you, I can tell you this
from years of watching this show.
No hairdresser on this show should be bragging
and giving a master class on hair extensions.
Because they suck on this show.
We all have eyes.
Yeah, so you know what, you called me up.
You called me up and you said, you're like,
do you know what you signed up for baby?
That's it, I don't know what that is a master class.
And then you told me no, just to be a model
for hair extensions on a website, for her to sell.
And none of us, none of us are getting paid.
And I was so turned off that you wanted to make money
on somebody that I would think that you would consider
a friend, baby.
So then Danielle, this Danielle just starts
letting her have it.
Danielle flies off the fucking handle.
But before we even get to that,
just from what Jen is saying,
so she's saying, why aren't you mad at Marissa
for lying to you?
Marissa is saying, I want you to come be a model
in a master class, that's just a friendly thing.
Marissa is tricking you and she's gonna use your pictures
on social media so that if you say no once you get there,
then you're gonna look like a terrible person.
So this girl's just trying to warn you, like you know that this is a thing that she's going to be
using us for a website. So I just want you to know so you don't get here and get pissed off at me
that my hairdresser is using you like that and not telling you. I think that was actually nice
of Danielle to do. Yeah. Well, yeah. So then Danielle, she's like, you fucking piece shit motherfucker. Sorry, I was just texting my dad.
Um.
Um.
She's like, but you said it.
She's, uh, that's what you are,
you're a piece of shit motherfucker.
That's what you are.
That's what, I'm cutting my mom off for this.
I'm cutting her off for this.
And Jen's like.
You said it, you said it then, baby.
So then Danielle is saying, no,
she's taking this innocent
conversation.
I was just warning her of what was happening.
I was not telling her not to do it or that I wanted money.
And now she's twisting it and using it against me on TV to
make me look like an asshole.
Danielle's take is like, look, I was just letting her know
this isn't a master class.
This is actually a promo thing.
And you should know because you've got hair people
and they may get upset that you're promoting
their hair products instead of your hair people's
hair products.
Right, because it is apparently very risky territory,
these hairdressers, you have to be on tippy toes
around these hairdressers in New Jersey
as we are learning right now.
So you can't just be calling somebody else's hair lady
and being like, you wanna try my extensions for the internet and then it's going to ruin your hair lady's life.
Like it's like fucking house of cards over here.
Yeah. Yeah. And she's saying I'm warning her because I don't want Jennifer to feel duped.
And then Jennifer turns to me and is like, you tricked me.
But here the irony is that now she tried to intercede here and then Jennifer's using
against her regardless.
Yeah, Jennifer, wow.
So then, by the way, this is what Jennifer is accusing Margaret of doing, is taking secrets
that somebody else told them and using it against them publicly to make them look stupid.
I mean, that's exactly what she's accusing Margaret of doing, who by the way, Margaret
isn't doing this. All she used was that little text.
Right. So anyway, so Danielle is like, you're a fuck, you're a fuck. And she's like, you dodged your girl, face and doing the whole like, oh yeah, you want a piece of me, you got a piece of me bitch, it's right here.
You want a piece of me? And then she gives us the Danielle that we fell in love with,
the fly off the handle crazy person for Staten Island. Yeah, don't you fucking dare. Don't you
fucking dare. I fucking lied to my people. Did you say, did you not say that baby? Did you fucking dare, don't you fucking dare. I fucking lie to my people. I work, I didn't, did I, did you say,
did you not say that, baby?
Did you not say, I never said that.
Did you not call me about Marissa, baby?
I just said, you know what, you're getting yourself
into you with this whole fucking photo shoot.
That's just what it is.
That was a behavior trait that I would never do,
I would never do to my hair girl, ever been.
That's a behavior trait I would never do to my hair girl.
I mean, come on. That's a behavior trait I would never do to my hair girl.
How do people not love this fucking show?
So Danielle's like, you're doing it to me right now.
Do it to me right now.
So we see Nate is watching from far away like, oh, Jesus.
So then Jen's like, you got bad behavior, baby.
She goes, you're not doing this to me.
Fuck you. I see you. I see you, bitch. She goes, you're not doing this to me. Fuck you, I see you.
I see you, bitch.
And now they're just yelling and Danielle's screaming,
you're dirty.
Everyone was writing about you.
You're a piece of shit.
I see you.
I know I see you now.
She goes, you need to calm down.
You need to calm down, baby.
You need to calm down.
So then they call each other fucking dirtbags.
Yeah, fucking dirtbags.
And then Jen pushes Danielle and then Danielle is holding a plastic cup and reaches around
and smacks Jen on the side of the head and breaks the plastic cup all over her.
And everyone's screaming and production runs over.
And we have watched this, well, if you're me, 37 times on people's Instagram accounts
where they're slowing it down
and repeating it over and over again.
And everyone's like, whose fault is it?
It's both of their fucking faults.
Jen, Danielle was in Jen's face,
really close to her face with her finger in her face.
Jen pushed her to get her off of her.
Jen initiated contact,
but they're both trash at this point.
I mean, pushing and a glass ready to launch into the side of somebody's head, plastic
or not, is not great.
I mean, neither one of them came out of this looking great.
Well, I mean, I think that if you had to like, the needle to me goes more towards Jennifer
Aiden in terms of fault because she pushed, she pushed.
But I think that Danielle's response was a terrible response.
So they have this, they of course then security and Nate,
Nate comes out of nowhere, they separate them all up and that, you know,
they're pulling them apart. Danielle's like, you're so fucking dirty.
You're so fucking dirty. And, you know, Jen is like, you know,
licking the beverage off her face on her fingers.
And so Nate's like, Oh my God, that's fucked up, Jen.
You're supposed to be friends. That's fucked up.
And Jen's like, I see you true colors.
I fucking added you bitch.
And so, Oh no, Jen's yelling that to a What's Her Buns.
And so then Dolores, they're just trying to break it up.
They're still yelling at each other and all that.
So now Danielle and Nate have to walk through the house
and they're like, Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, Jen's yelling that to What's Her Buns. And so then Dolores, they're just trying to break it up.
They're still yelling at each other and all that.
So now Danielle and Nate have to walk through the house
to get out and Bill is just sitting there
with the messiest hair.
I don't know what Bill's been doing.
Bill looks like he just jumped out of a bush.
And Danielle's like, I don't give a shit.
Your wife's a bitch.
Your wife's a dirty fucking dumb bitch.
Just so you know when you go to bed at night
you sleep with the fucking devil.
He's like, tell me something I don't know, girlfriend.
Why do you think I married her?
She's camp.
It's called iconic.
Bye now.
He really does look at her like that.
He's like, okay, crazy lady.
I'll take my crazy lady over you any day.
She's just screaming, fuck your fucking wife.
Then the girls are like, well, who hit who?
Which of course is the Jersey thing that they always ask.
But everyone's always at fault in this show.
There's literally never an innocent person on this show.
So then Theresa is like, she brought up Marissa and
the Lord goes, my girl, Marissa. And Danielle goes, Oh, Marissa, what about Marissa? Oh God,
don't even say this in front of me. Paul, it's a sombrero party. Go get it.
Marissa gave Paul the sombrero.
So look, everybody Paul's dancing in circles Paul the sombrero. So look, everybody poles dancing in circles
around the sombrero. Isn't that great? Doing great, honey.
So Teresa's like, Yeah, well, I guess she pushed her. I didn't even see a push enough.
And then you know, everyone's like, that cabrals are leaving and everything. And then you know,
the Teresa's daughter's like, What happened, ma? She's like, I don't even know.
I didn't know left with Jennifer. Oh my God.
So Jennifer says like, are you okay? And Jackie's like, you know, yeah,
you know, she threw that at you. She threw that.
She threw that you worse than the way that Margaret threw all these
accusations out about me. It's terrible.
That must have hurt you as much as Margaret hurt me when she screen-shotted
the text and used it against me. I'm the real victim in this fight. So Jack is like, so Jennifer's like, Oh, I know.
But like you don't throw a drink and Jack's like, yeah.
And that made her so angry that she throws a drink at you.
That's ridiculous.
She was like, what the fuck?
So yeah, everyone's just reacting.
And then in the car, we see car cam with Nate and Danielle
and enable her ass Nate, who I know a lot of people see this
and they're like, wow, you know, that's a good husband
really going to support you through anything.
What a good partner.
And then you see the guy who's like, Oh, I'm going to throw a who I know a lot of people see this and they're like wow
You know, that's a good husband really going to support you through anything. What a good partner fuck that
This isn't enabling this guy like with all the shit all the people that she cuts off all the shit
This girl goes through in the public eye just making herself then we've only heard her side of the story too
Where she gets to make herself sound like the hero? She doesn't need a partner who's like, you're right, honey.
You're totally right.
Cut them off, cut them off.
And you do everything for everybody.
And now, no, you need to be like, babe, I get that you're in a fight, but we're in public
and on TV and we have children.
You can't be smashing fucking drinks into people's heads.
Grow the fuck up.
Like, come on now.
Yeah.
So he's just basically being like, yeah, she's the worst and everything.
And then Pauline Delores from the backyard and Dolores, like whenever whenever someone pushes you
to the edge like that, especially someone like her, that literally manufactures absolute fucking
lies. I mean, what are you supposed to do? What are you supposed to do? Walk away? How about that?
Yeah, walk away. So Pauline Delores are back in the backyard and Dolores like, well,
Jen pushed the wrong one too far.
That's what happened.
Oh, exactly.
On your count, do that to someone like Danielle.
I mean, if it's for fuck's sake.
I mean, I don't know what she said.
Paul, really Paulie, did you put salsa in your sombrero?
You're eating chips out of your sombrero now?
Listen, he had guacamole brain.
Okay.
So then I think this is funny because first of all, that Paul, that they
all think of Danielle like this, like, you can't talk to that woman like that. Are you
nuts? But also that this is always how everybody's talked about Jen. Like, you got what you deserved.
You talk to Jen like that, you know how Jen's going to react, you know? And now they're
saying it to Jen, like, see, that's what you get, Jen. You can't do that. So it's funny
that they're, Jen's kind of getting a taste of her own medicine here.
Right.
So, they're all talking about it.
Teresa's like, what happened?
And Dolores like, did you push her?
Did you push her?
And she's like, I don't know if I pushed her.
Well, I mean, she was in my face.
It all happened so fast.
I mean, I guess I could have pushed her.
I don't know.
I don't know, baby.
I can't say what happened for sure.
It just so much happened. I don't know. It went wrong, officer. I didn't know. I don't know, baby. I can't say what happened for sure. It just so much happened. I don't know
It went wrong opposite. I didn't mean to I swear. I didn't mean to just was so fast. There's so many emotions, baby
But she's actually kind of deadly calm, which is super weird where she's like I could have pushed her. He knows
And tiffany the new girl's like well
I think if someone pushed me then maybe I would throw my drink too, wouldn't you guys?
And she's like, oh hell fucking yeah, I do it every year.
And Jen's like, don't come into my person space yet, because that's an act of aggression.
So I'm back in the car and they're like, you're right, you're right, you're right.
And then he was like, she must be miserable to fucking life, because I got everything
she wants.
I got you, I got fashion, and fashion and you. I got seven models. I have seven
models.
So yeah, back to the party. Teresa's like, well, thank God you guys are fine, you know?
And Teresa's like, you know, she's from Long Island. So you don't mess with girls from
Long Island.
So who's she talking? Isn't Jen from Long Island?
Yeah, Jen is from Long Island. She said Long Island? Yeah, Jen is from Long Island.
She's like, Teresa's saying that Jen's from Long Island.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And then, yeah, well, I don't know,
Long Island versus Staten Island,
I literally don't know who to put my money on, honestly.
I don't know.
I've lived in both.
Well, I didn't live in Long,
I lived in Long Island City, which was different,
but I would put my money on Staten Island.
That was the first place I ever lived in New York City.
And I lived in a house without,
it was missing one of the columns in front
that held the house up.
And so the house was tilted down towards the street.
And we would sit in rolling chairs
that would roll down the house into the wall.
That's how we watched TV.
And those are tough motherfuckers is what I'm saying.
They did not give a shit.
Even the houses were tough motherfuckers.
They're like, you want a piece of me?
You want a piece of me?
I'm like, you're a tilted house.
What are you gonna do?
They're like, I'll crush you to death.
Fuck with me.
I'm putting my money on Staten Island all day long.
I just think of Angelina from Jersey Shore
showing up at the Jersey Shore with all,
you didn't even have a luggage.
She just had a trash bag she showed up with.
I was like, St Stan Allen has tough people.
Man, and mob wives?
Oh man.
That's a big old dump.
Yeah, no.
Fuck yeah.
I'm using that over Long Island any day.
So Jen, they're like, you okay Jen?
You okay?
And she's like, I'm not gonna cry over this one.
I'm not gonna cry over this one, baby.
I'm good, I'm real fucking good.
She's mad.
I get it.
I'd be mad if I was her too.
And then I assumed we were getting the midseason trailer after this.
I was like this, if there was ever an episode to get a midseason trailer, it would be this one.
But none.
No midseason trailer.
Not yet.
So I guess we'll have to wait on that one, but here it is the big fight.
It has, it has now happened.
It has now happened.
Loved it.
Yeah.
I love this show.
Great season.
Well, I guess we'll see what happened, what's going to happen.
What the story is that they both got suspended after this fight, right?
Or was it, they were suspended after the other, didn't they get into
another fight at the finale?
I think so. I don't know. I thought they got suspended for a while after this one. But
then, you know, Jen gets into a fight at Bravo. I don't know when this was shot even, but
that Jen gets into a fight with Joe Gorga at Bravo Con and throws a drink at him. So
it's not like she can be on some high horse. So there were like drinks thrown at that one
too. So I don't know.
This cast is always fucking insane.
Who knows?
But I'm sure we'll be talking.
We'll look it up and come up with some stories
to talk about on Crappier or Monday night.
Yes, everyone, thank you so much for being here.
Stay tuned for our next episode.
We'll have some House the Dragon coming up soon
and we'll catch you on the next show.
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It was the biggest scandal in pop music.
The stars of Milli Vanilli, the Grammy-winning multi-platinum R&B phenomenon, were exposed as frauds.
But none of this was their idea. So whose idea was it?
Enter German music producer Frank Farian.
He saw the success of acts like Michael Jackson and Prince, and he wanted in, no matter the cost.
So he devised the perfect pop heist.
Two once-in-a-lifetime talents who were charismatic, full of sex appeal, and phenomenal dancers.
The only problem? They couldn't sing.
But Frank knew just how to fix that.
Wondery's new podcast, Blame It on the Fame, dives into one of pop music's greatest controversies,
and takes a never-before-heard look at the exploitation of two young Black artists.
Millie Vanilli set the world on fire, but when the truth came out, Rob and Fab were the only ones who got burned. Looking back now, it's hard not to wonder,
why did everyone blame them and not the man pulling the strings?
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