Watch What Crappens - #2507 RHONJ S14E13 Part 2: Sh*t Just Got Rails

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

This is part 2!The final episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey as we know it has aired.  The women gathered at Rails to air out their grievances and leave basically in the same mindset that they entered.  But that didn’t mean there weren’t bombshell revelations.  Let’s unpack it!  For video recaps and all of our bonus episodes, join us at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So then we go to the Gorgas. And now, of course, this is a finale where both sides are trying to win points. So they're both gonna bring up their dead parents as much as possible so that we have black and white scenes and they can say, I had a mom, I had a dad, and try to win sympathy points. And they both do it.

They're both fucking shameless with this. So we cut to Joe Gorgas, like, I gotta go watch. be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it.

I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I I said, dad, that was really mean. He said, what? Pussy says what? And I go, what? He goes, pussy says what? I go, what?

He goes, pussy goes, says what? And I started to cry. Love you, dad. Love you, dad. So they do the whole like, she's my sister. I'm always gonna care. Cause Melissa's like, well, they're saying that like, she's in this bad situation with Louie

and that she's losing all this weight and that she let, and he's like, I'm always're saying that like she's in this bad situation with Louie and that she's losing all this weight and that she let and he's like, I'm always going to care because she's my sister. But you know, you remember how like, you know, how we had a pizza oven, we said they is and we, they took the pizza oven, we said they didn't. And then they took the pizza. Remember there was that. And then there was that other thing where they did that thing. And then there was that other time they did that other thing.

It's like, yeah, first they came from a lot of things. Then they came from a mozzarella and then they came for the whole pizza oven. Should have seen them. They came from my spray can of hair and that's it. Never go back for my pants pajamas. Never go back, babe. So she's like, okay, then fine. I'm never going break boundaries again. I'm just gonna go try and trigger and already triggered Teresa for a good last minute finale scene is like, go

for it, babe. So then we go to the last supper, dun dun dun. And Dolores arrives to rails. And the hostess takes her out. She goes, I'm good. She goes, Okay, we've reserved for you the mosaic room, which is hilarious that they've called it the mosaic room. It's just broken glass. That is so fucking beautiful. This show's poetic. But also, you know that like,

whoever is the owner of Rayhals was like, you know what, let's open up a private space upstairs. What do we want? What do you want to call it? I know. How about the mosaic room? It'll be a classy spot where people at Rails can share memories and a lifetime of togetherness

at the mosaic room. Let's call it the mosaic because it's the room that the most glass is broken in because the housewives are always there. And you know, this shows art. It's like Hoboken art. Let's, it's Rails and Hoboken. No, that was the Manzo's restaurant.

It was a hotel. Yeah. Sorry, my bad. You know what? I think we're saying it wrong. I don't believe it's called the Mosaic Room. I think it's called the Mosaic Room. The Mosaic Day's Room.

Day's Room. Yeah, I just thought it was so hilarious that Rails was trying to have this like elevated private space called the Mosaic Room. It's just like made no sense, the Mosaic Room. So then Dolores is like, wow, you know, I've really put a lot of thought into this last supper. See, this is all about history. All right, run the clips of Jesus learning to fish down the shore. TG Oh, okay. Oh, we have Jacqueline instead. Okay, how about Jacqueline? So we see Jacqueline yelling at Teresa in the mosaic room, I'd like to add.

So we see that this room has actually never solved any issues for anyone on this show. Going back to Jacqueline. CB Never. I mean, it's always gone terribly in this room and we see all the scenes of it going terribly at Rails and then Dolores goes, you know, the past Rails lunch, whatever, I'm not gonna hold it against Rails. Thank you. You know what?

It's all about energy when you walk into a place. A lot of natural wood, a lot of unnatural faces. You see birds, you see a train, there's a tire over there that's on fire. There's Kim G. hanging her head over the fence. We look real closely. The napkin that she threw down on the staircase when she chased Danielle's dog out. Yeah, that's still on the steps right over there.

It's dark. It's a black napkin now. A lot of dirt. That is how she describes it. She's like, and then of course the train. And you just see this huge commuter train like, ah, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. It's all about the black train. I was like, this is not a freight train.

This is not a freight train, like, enigmatically traveling through the American West with smoke coming out of its smokest stack and like canyons. This is just a fucking New Jersey transit train going by. Yeah, it's like the commuter train. So funny, it's like it's all about relaxing. It's all about peace. So Fesla arrives and they all have these like crazy arrivals.

They're all dressed really formally and they all get their own arrival and their own cards. Like dun, dun, dun like dun dun dun dun dun. Yeah. And Dolores is like, well, I'm sweating already. I'm getting a little nervous because, you know, I care about everybody like family and I want them to get things off their chest civilly. You know, for instance, if someone says something about you that you don't agree with, you say,

are you a fucking C cut fitness right now? I never said that before. That's how family talks. That's how I talk to my sisters at least. You stupid cut fitness. This is how it is. So then Rachel comes in and basically everybody starts arriving and Rachel's like, so what do you guys' expectations for the day? I hope there's no charcuterie because the other day I put together a charcutie. And let me tell you, it wasn't the easiest thing in the world. I was so afraid I was going to drop it.

Well, guess what? The theme of today is listening. So everyone's going to get to speak and everyone's going to listen. That is definitely the theme. And we will definitely be seeing that theme throughout the rest of this episode. So basically, everyone arrives and Marge is like, yeah, Hungarian Assassin vibes. That's what's coming in right now. She better watch it, buddy. Yeah.

And Teresa is the last to arrive and then she sees that she's placed right in front of Margaret and she's like, I know, I don't want to say next to a cross from her. Okay. Cause like, no, cause like we're going to want, you know what? You're going to wind up at wearing whatever it was. Cause I, so I don't want to, you know, cause I can't control myself. Okay. I don't want to sit here. I want to sit here. Ridiculous.

And Mark's like, whatever, Lou say, go sit over there. So, um, professor does the hello. Well, welcome to lunch. Um, please let's not talk about any carbs having sex with other carbs. I can't take it today. I'm telling you that right now. Well, I know it's not easy being here as a group.

I know we're just so divided. And the whole thing today is to be heard much like the train that's about to pass by. Come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come. I know it's relaxing. Try not to fall asleep. And just remember I'm, I'm here to try Come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, crocodile. Okay, come on up here. Oh, I forgot he doesn't talk. Just want to highlight the great work that the local bakers in New Jersey do. Okay, now we're going to go on Jen and Danielle.

I would like to thank the local bakery, macrame for what they do. I would like to, uh, before we get started, I want to, in the spirit of moving forward, I want wanna say that baked goods are moving forward. Please, please enjoy the world's first ever Crofaccia. It's a croissant and a focaccia in the shape of a crocodile. It's a Crofaccia dial, okay? All right, so there's gonna be an order, And the only time I'm going to step in is when I think the point has been made. Now, I know that you're all confused, mostly because

I'm dressed like I'm going to an ice skaters funeral and you're thinking what ice skater died. I'm not telling you until you all behave. You bunch of cup fitnesses. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I got carried away. So Teresa's on her phone because she's like, I don't care. I want to show how much I don't care. So they start with Danielle and Jen. So Danielle's like, she's like, okay, listen, I want to have a conversation where I can verbalize instead of coming at you with complete anger.

Which is like, okay, a nice sentence. Yes, I bet if you even capable of it. Okay, a little bit of an aggression. I'm trying to verbalize it. A little bit of an aggression, but I think we could do this. Okay, well, when you question somebody like me, look at yourself first. For that charity event, my husband and I gave $2,500 to make $25,000 and I planned a beautiful meal for you.

That tip for $600 came out of my pocket and all the private car services came to your house came out of the budget. Yeah exactly it came out of the budget okay because you didn't pay for that. You're hustling everybody for free because you can't afford things. I get it. I get it. This is the point where someone should have said, do you guys realize what you're fighting about? You guys realize what you're risking your jobs over right now is a stupid semantics over this stupid charity situation. So, um, and then most of this is just so wrong in this. Like people don't pay all the expenses out of their own pocket for a charity

event. You fucking looney tune. Yeah. I mean, you have the, there's a budget for charity events. I don't, I've actually almost forgotten entirely about what the, the nuts and bolts are of this argument, except that it's just a stupid ass argument and they both should have moved on by now. And the fact that they've gotten so violent over charity is, um, is wild. So then Jen's like, you didn't pay for that. You're hustling everybody,

you can't afford things, I'm rich, I get it, I'm richer than you. And Melissa is like, oh my God, talking about money, that's fucked up. I mean, you gotta be humble, am I right? You just gotta be humble. And Jen really is an asshole. I don't remember where I mentioned this,

but she was just doing some red carpet or something. Oh, I think for that new Bravo restaurant they had called Diamonds and Rosé. It's like a Bravo bar or something like that. And they were doing an opening and they were interviewing Jen and they're like, so what do you think about Andy saying that they're gonna reboot this entire franchise?

She goes, what am I gonna do without the show? I mean, who cares? Look at me, I'll probably walk around my house and count my bathrooms. I'm rich. I have so many bathrooms. I'll still be rich tomorrow. I'm rich yesterday. I'm rich today. I'll be rich tomorrow. Hey, bathroom number one. Hey, bathroom number two. No pun intended. Look at me. I don't need a show. I don't need it at all. Yeah, her brother better watch out because Jen is going to be crashing those seventh grade

performances of 42nd Street. She's like, hey everyone, the real stars here. So Jen is like, we're in the money, that's my favorite song, we're in the money. Daniel don't got no money, Daniel is poor, yeah baby. So Jen's like, you know what, listen Daniel, you are my life, I get it, you get to my house, that is what you want. And Daniel's like, oh God, I want nothing that you have, you have 18 fucking bathrooms that your house is empty.

It's just empty. It's filled with love baby, for people who don't talk to their family, they need to find family and their friends. Oh yeah, you're sad, you Just sad is what you are, huh? You're sad. She goes, I'm not sad, baby. Well, I know you cry. Yeah, yeah, I know you cry.

I know you cry alone at home because you couldn't even touch what I got with a 10 foot pole, all right? You couldn't even touch it. Baby, you're so irrelevant. And then Jackie's like, well, what? Guys, why don't we move on, okay? Like, this is dumb and I'm sure there won't be any bombshells coming up later this episode

So what won't we move on to something else? Because no, it's fine, baby. I'm laughing at you cuz you're a clown Jen I mean Danielle Yeah, you know what? I know I know I go home to my husband waiting for me at the door So that's all I need to know. Oh Wonderful, yes, but with the boobs and you got the bra honey. Your husband with the boobs. So she did say bra and right, because I was like, does she say boobs or bra? I thought she said bra actually, but maybe it was bra. I'm not sure.

But either way, the key was she said your husband with the boobs and that was the trigger. The key was, she said, your husband with the boobs. And that was the trigger. And Danielle jumps up and throws stuff across the table. You mother fucker, you mother fucker. You should have said at least, you know, my husband doesn't sleep in the pool house. You know, like at least I get to play with his boobs

or something, but. Something. Yeah, she went crazy and threw something again. I mean, and here's Danielle's thing. Like, I think Danielle's so funny on the show, but she's trying with this Teresa shit too hard. So look at me. I'm not talking to my family though. It's basically the same thing as like Teresa. Oh, last season wasn't enough with my brother. Now I'm not going to talk to my dad either. It's the same storyline. Am I right guys?

And then like always trying to flip a table or throw something. I'm like, girl, you know, come up with, come up with your own stuff. You know, you're like a great value version of Teresa. Just be yourself. You're crazy enough. Trust me. Yeah. So they, they have this big fight over man boobs. Um, and then like, also I don't know that Jen Aiden's really the one to be throwing that nipple. You know what I mean? I don't want to, I'm an owner of man boobs. So first of all, stop shaming, shaming the boobs because I've got them.

And second of all, pretty sure that the boobs because I've got them. And second of all, pretty sure that Bill's not like a Brad Pitt build. So I don't know. Maybe check your husband's nipples, where your husband's nipples lie while he's sitting on the pot reading the newspaper before you throw it. Maybe she was just trying to shame Nate into being a client for Bill. Maybe that was the plan all along. Trying to get business. Yeah, tell him to fix his moves. Maybe you can have a charity event to pay for it.

I would like a charity event for my moves. That would be great. Yeah, we should have GoFundMe's for moves. I know, I have a real move situation that I've never been able to get rid of, but you know, that's life, body positivity. So then they're fighting, and Melissa's like, cut it out. So then Teresa, yeah, Teresa is yelling and she's like, guys, cut it out, cut it out,

okay, cut it out. And Melissa's like, cut it out, you're the queen of this shit. She's like, oh, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. I'm trying, by the way, I'm recording in my hotel room and I'm trying very hard not to get in trouble by screaming this recap out because I can hear people in the hallway. So if I can hear them, they definitely can hear me in right now

making all these noises. Welcome to New York City, suckers. I know, that's true. But yeah, this is, first of all, I guess that what we just saw was Danielle throwing a pitcher but we didn't see it. So is that is this one she threw the infamous glass pitcher that they cut out?

Yeah, there was definitely this is definitely where she threw like glass. I don't know. I don't know what was cut out or not cut out. But like this is where the broken glass came from. So I think this was basically Melissa and Teresa saying like, oh, this is supposed to be another big showdown with us. And we've just let the B squad take over and they even stole Teresa's move of throwing glass at somebody. What are we going to do? So Melissa's like, oh yeah, they learned it

from you. Why trash and Teresa like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, What the? Do I have to get the allergist out here and prick you in the back? What's wrong with you?

Melissa's like, I'm Antonia's mom. I'll let you know it you think I'm a whore. I have a daughter How could you say that in front of a daughter? Oh gosh, let's go now. It's gonna be daughter wars My brother married a whore Enough enough the two of you are fucking kidding me right now. You're fucking kidding me Set and by the way, if he did marry a whore, can we stop shaming whores too? It's a job. Jesus Christ. My God, I'm so sick of that. If he married a whore, good for him and good for her for getting to work from home. You know what I mean? So they basically, things settle down for a moment. And Dolores is like, okay, Danielle, take a deep breath.

Take a deep breath, okay. And Jen's like, Jen's saying to the producers, like, listen, I think that she should go because like, I think she should go because LV, I don't want her here. Because LV is the producer, they call her LV. I like that they just like gave the producers code names because they don't want the cast

contacting them at home. They're like, this is LV, that's Chanel. Okay. And over there we've got Gucci. Yeah. Brand name is like, if you could be found in the Primus Mall, you're on the production team. Baby.

I need someone a little more rough and tumble if I'm going to deal with her again. Send in the gap, Alvie. Send in the gap. Does anyone know what Claire is? Claire? Claire must have heard it with her bleeding ears. I demand to speak to Spencer. All right. Are we going to devolve into fart jokes already? So Danielle's LV is like, if you're lunging across the table, Danielle, you're going to have to go. And she's I promise you I'm done. I'm done already. I'm done with it.

So she's crying and she goes to the bathroom and Dolores goes with her and she's trying to give her a pep talk, you know, and then so Teresa comes up to her. She goes, why did you do that? She goes, Teresa, there's not so Teresa comes up to her, she goes, why'd you do that? She goes, Teresa, there's not the fuck a time for that. She goes, oh yeah? Oh yeah, well what about what Margaret's been doing to me? She literally does that. Danielle just got into a fight with Jen,

and Teresa's like, well, but what about Margaret doing this? Look what she's doing. Danielle's like, stop, it's not about you right now. Well, I'm just saying. I thought that was Look what she's doing. Daniel's like stop. It's not about you right now. Well, I'm just saying I thought that was great when she screamed at Teresa. She said it's not about you right now, Teresa Can you believe it? There's like a fight with glass being thrown. They're separated right now I'm like, but what about what Margaret's doing? I mean, this is like what about my mark was doing to me It's so classic Teresa, which is why I just can never be on her side

Because like, you know, you can call Melissa annoying, you can call her whatever you want to say about her, passive aggressive, but like Teresa is just the biggest idiot and so stubborn and just so like, she just only sees the world through such a perplexing and aggravating and frustrating lens that I just cannot be on her side.

Yeah. I think this is definitely one of those shows where it's just wiser not to take sides. I mean, people are just mulling on Teresa. One of the dumbest people on the show. Oh my God. And she devolves into perfect Teresa for the rest of the episode where when Teresa is confused, which is like literally all the time She just goes into her you are fights that are like you are you are you are you are I mean look it's entertaining. It's Your husband says yes, that's you are you're in jail. You're in jail. You're in jail. Oh You know the the housewives have a great tradition. The housewives have a great tradition of cast members who filter every single living experience around them into like their own like pity party or something like that, just as Theresa did right here.

And a lot of times I just think it's hilarious. Well, Teresa, it just annoys me because I guess there are just so many sanctimonious fights that swirl around her at all times that eventually you start taking it too seriously. And like, the truth is, normally I find this to be very funny when someone would say, like, but what about what Margaret's doing to me right now? Like, that is fucking hilarious. But man, she drives me nuts. I laughed, but then it's harder to be on Melissa's side sometimes because Melissa's not even in this and really hasn't done anything all season. And Teresa's done a pretty good job of just completely ignoring Melissa.

But then Melissa has to be like, oh yeah, she learned it from you, Teresa. It's like, oh my God, you're not even in it. Stop trying to make something happen just because it's the season finale. You know, you did nothing all year. All I want to do, all I want to see from you is you sit there and cry that Antonio went to college. That's all you've earned.

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I think I'm hearing it right now. So Danielle goes off to the bathroom and Teresa's calling out, calling out after her saying, I'm not saying it's about me. I'm not saying it, but I'm saying not to get violent. Like the way Margaret Josephs wants to be violent with me right now. And Jen back at the table is like, what? His husband's got man boobs. What are you going to do? It's got the man boobs. Hey, wait a minute. Can I order some man boobs? Sorry. You're going to have to pick them up from, good job husband baby.

Melissa's like, here's the thing Jen, I think that when we talk about husbands, it's like the most sensitive thing. And Jen's like, don't start none, won't be none Melissa. Like she does this whole other voice. She goes, she's sitting here talking about me crying alone at night at home, okay.

Don't start none, don't be none, okay. And she's trying to do her Candy Burris voice and it's problematic every damn time she does it. It's just as problematic now as it was the first time. And Margaret's like, you know what, she shouldn't have thrown anything. That's true. She's just, thank you, Margaret. Thank you, Margaret, for finally being on the bright side of her story. So then Danielle is... Well, congratulations, finally someone finally sees my side. So, Delores, Danielle's coming out of the bathroom, whatever, and she's like, she's

so fucking dirty, bro. And Delores is like, Danielle, pull yourself together. It's a long day. We got to throw the C word around to a lot of different people. Okay? This is just the beginning. So Jen is still trying to poke at her. She's like, fuck it. This aggressive. It's like back in cheerleading. She's aggressive.

She's, she's aggressive. And then faster is like, okay, you guys, I just want to let you know, I can't mediate this. You've gotten used to this. It's the level of disgusting and I can't be around it.'s fucking gross I'm out of here this is my ending I'm basically sitting in a diner with my family I see a guy walk in I'm not sure if he's gonna kill me the scene goes to black what happened to Fessler nobody knows is it a brilliant ending or the most frustrating ending you've ever seen I don't know Fessler's out talk about it on the interwebs this is totally against my

brand my brand is not watching This is totally against my brand. My brand is not watching women fight at rails. My brand is getting railed by James Gandolfini. Fessler out! Last time I got railed this hard, I at least had a piece of wonky hair between my teeth. I'm out. So Rachel, does anyone else think it's weird that Jen's host co-hosting a party and she just left?

Anyone? Does anyone want to hear about my elygist again? Because I can't offer up that. I've got way more stories about that. Like, no. So Dolores and Danielle come back and Danielle is like on the other side of the room and production security is there and everything. Normally she would have been gone, but I think they're like, this is the end of the season

and this cast, let's just let this play out. So Dolores goes, Jen, can I ask you one thing? If she stays over there, are you okay? Are you okay? Yes, I'll give you permission to stay. I feel like she's digging her own grave. So tell her I said welcome. She don't fucking bother me, none.

Can't have none, won't be none, am I right? She can come back. I'm dressing for a fucking party. Can't have none will be none. Am I right? She can come back. I'm dressing for a fucking party. You're all addressing for a fucking funeral. I dress for a party because I'm laughing at that fucking guy, baby. She's got my permission to come back, baby. So then let's see. Melissa's like, well, I'm a whore, so I guess I'm gonna just sit here my hornest and my stripper-ness. She tried to bring the fight back to her. I didn't really... She's trying to bring it back to her, but literally no one cares.

They're like, we've seen 13 seasons of this and we're bored. Okay, at least we got a new pitcher to be thrown. So then they all reassemble. They all... They're kind of like they reset. Yeah. And Jack is like, oh, by oh by the way Dolores while you're in the bathroom Jen Fessler left. Oh, really? Why well she said she couldn't handle it and I was like, this is your party. Am I right? But I guess that's just a whore speaking. No one takes the horse seriously. God. I'm such a whore who wants to fight with me It's the finale. No one. Oh, yeah, cuz my friend is the one who's the bioperson Yeah, I know. I'm just the worst. I'm the worst.

You know what? Maybe Teresa wants to say something to me. I'd gladly listen to that. Go ahead, Teresa, try and form some words together into a sentence. I don't got nothing. Go ahead, man, you do it. No, I was just gonna say,

I don't got nothing to say to you, okay? I mean, you know exactly what you men doing. I mean, five of the women came to my home and I showed them like the black and white truth and like, I have the facts. Like I go on facts. There's no such thing as a croissant and a donut like together, cause like a croissant's a croissant,

a donut's a donut, you can't mix them together. So you should stop trying to say these things are like a cronut, cause that like is not even real. Like, I can't, too much, I can't. You know what? I go on facts also. So I'm going to give you the facts. March of 2022, Crisanto was actually accidentally put into a donut fryer.

Boom. Cronut was born. After you guys spoke to Laura, okay? Cronut's number one fan, okay, just look at her pictures on Instagram these days, am I right? Okay, God bless. You know, have you ever seen a court reporter try to type in a court record while eating a Cronut at the same time?

It's very, it doesn't, it's not smooth. Very greasy letters. Karl, a court remonstre, because she's like a court reporter and a monster mixed into one. So listen, in March 2022, after you guys spoke to Laura, it was the first time I ever spoke to the ex. And Laura says like, wait a minute, now that's a different story. But a little bit little bit little bit, that's the sound of a rewind, because surely you're rewinding to insert a clip here. Am I right production? Don't make me come over there, you stupid fucking cop fitness.

And then two days ago, Margaret's saying like, look, I never spoke to the ex before New York. Although to me, that's, I don't know what that means before New York. I don't know what New York means in this timeline. So Delores goes, what are you doing? Because I guess Delores is saying if the reunion was in 2022, that was,

I think she's saying that Margaret is messing up with her timeline, cause she said she never spoke to her before New York, but she did. If she's saying 2022, I don't know. Cause was that reunion filmed in 2023? I think it was. I think it was. Yeah, so she's saying if you can't say you didn't speak

to her before the reunion, but now you're saying you did. I think it's just showing the timelines. Timelines are so confusing because we see the episode and everything on the episode has happened a year earlier. So then when they talk about things, well, this was filmed in 2023. This was filmed in 2023. So maybe that reunion was in 2022. I can never remember when.

I think the reunion was like in January of 2023, something like that. But then again, maybe it was filmed in 2020. You know what? I'll say I don't even care. It's too much. It's too hard, you know, and this shows not intelligent enough to break your brain over. No, it's not. So, uh, Terina, Teresa is talking about like, you know, she's lying, she's lying.

And Margaret, it's a bunch of back and forth. Like let me finish. I want to speak, let me finish, let me finish. You're lying, you're lying, you're lying. Don't not, don't talk. Yeah, so Margaret is trying to speak and Teresa's just gonna do what she always does, which is repeat words over and over really loudly

to stop the other person from speaking. So Teresa's like, uh-huh, yeah, you got subpoena in 2021. So when you got subpoena, you're like, oh my God, well, it doesn't matter, she's lying. And so she tells us Margaret, all she does is lies through her teeth, right? Because like Leon proved that she was talking to this individual and that's why we subpoenaed it her and she never showed it up in court. And she was, if she would tell us the truth, she would have no problem to show up and say, I'm not speaking to this person. She's gonna get vocal modes like Adele.

I know. She's gonna need vocal rest. I know. So then Teresa's like, If they would have put you on the stand, then they would have like asked you like when you were speaking to that person. And I would have said no. In 2021, I never spoke to her.

Yeah, but then you should have come to court then. She goes, well, March of 2022, I spoke with her. And after you guys spoke to Laura, I spoke to her. Let me finish, OK? And you hear everything, and you tell me what you think of this. So then they talk about they each have their own timelines, et cetera.

And they're just like, basically, it's like crosstalk again. Yeah, and so Jen's like, Teresa, if you you got the facts on your side, so don't worry about what she's got to say. Because Teresa will not just stop talking over going, lie on, you lie on, you lie on, lie on, lie on. She goes, well, how would you feel if I had, Teresa, just a question. How would you feel if I had Vanessa probably, but it's been redacted, it's been bleeped out at my house? And she goes, I'm sure you did, I'm sure you did. She says, no, actually I never had her at my house.

That's what she does. She has people at her house the night before New York and a smear campaign on my husband. That's a totally different issue. Am I supposed to smear? Also, you admittedly had a private investigator going after everybody and you had like evidence at the reunion. So you literally just filmed a scene last week with a lawyer talking about why Margaret was evil.

So Margaret's smear campaign was against us and she goes, no, the smear campaign was on my husband. Because the smear campaign, there's nothing. There's nothing. We didn't't do anything No, you're a fucking disgusting human man with no soul because who did the smear campaign? What's smear campaign? What happened? I don't even know what a smear is. Well, what did I hear smear? There is me everywhere a smear smear a smear banana pudding on a crone. That's something I did. I'm sorry I'm sorry, but did you say smear campaign? Is you're correct on that? That's I have had many smear campaigns You know what a lot of big on us correct on that. I have had many smear campaigns. You know what? A lot of bacon loches. I vote no. I vote they wouldn't be the same. The smear. Smear makes it all better. Okay. So let me, I think it was something that Teresa does, other than the repeat herself over and over, she refuses to ever answer a question. Because Marge is actually asking you a good question here,

which is what was the smear? The only thing, and I'm sorry to say it again, but it keeps coming up. What's the smear? The only thing that came out was the video that was already public when Marge brought it up to you. If she's talked to Vanessa and got all this information, she's never brought it up. She's never brought up any of the Louis fraud allegations,

any of the abuse allegations, any of that stuff. She said, there was one line where she said something like, I'm not accusing of being abusive. The girlfriends are the ones accusing of being abused. There was one line where she said something like, I'm not accusing of being abusive. The girlfriends are the ones accusing of being abusive. That was all in People Magazine, et cetera, it's other places. So what are these huge smears? And why can't Teresa answer?

Well, we know why Teresa can't answer because she's not a very smart person. So Jackie tells us, Margaret's so full of shit. That was a take down at Margaret's that she had planned before the reunion last year, and that was all of us showing up to decide how to destroy Louis. It was.

And I was asked point blank, was that a takedown? And I always said no, because I wanted to protect everyone. But yeah, that's why we were there. I'm like, well, no shit, it was a takedown. Of course it was a takedown for Louis, because Louis had just unleashed a private investigator on all these people's lives and was being violent and they had to have a reunion and they were like, we need to get our shit in order

because this guy is a lunatic and we need to expose this guy because he is being shifty and shady to us right now. I'm like, I don't think there's any shame in admitting that this is 100% what they were doing. Well, and also Jackie was a huge part of that, but it's okay for her because she was mad about Teresa and another thing.

So she's like Jackie is always fine with everything after the fact, like she makes it okay for herself, like everybody, I guess it does on these shows, but it's especially egregious with Jackie because Jackie kind of held herself to this higher level of like, I'm smarter than these people, which is correct, she is, and I'm more accomplished than these people, which is correct, she is. And I'm more accomplished than these people, which I mean, she is. And she's

emotionally more intelligent than these people. She's on a higher moral level than these. So she presents herself that way. So to just watch her sell out for what? To like stand behind an abuser who's gonna come after this whole group of women and call them all these names. And after his behavior at that, and then his behavior this whole year, it's pretty gross that Jackie of all people is going to sit here and try and win points by standing up for that. I know. So Margaret, Margaret's basically like, look, I don't have to come up with a smear campaign because your husband does a good enough job of himself and she's like, yeah, full of shit. That's why you married a fucking plumber, you disgusting pig.

Which I think is funny because Teresa may have forgotten that she like, like, isn't didn't Joe do dice work in construction and like, but she's like, oh, but you married. Yeah. And we're like, well, I love that. I love to fuck the plumber. Yeah. It's like dissing every blue collar person. It's like hookers, plumbers. Like she's just going after everybody. You know, those are the people who buy your books, plumber hookers. Like she's just going after everybody. You know those are the people who buy your books, plumber hookers. And Rachel's like,

what's wrong with being a plumber by the way? And Margaret's like, no, and your father was a cobbler, what's wrong with that? Which I'm shocked that that did not send Teresa off. Cause you know, there's certain keywords that Teresa hears. And once they're uttered. Now listen, you know, everyone knows I love a cobbler.

And personally, if I knew them better, I would have put a schmear and some banana pudding on top and called it a day. But you know what? You're the one being very, very offensive to cobblers right now. And so, and then Melissa goes, and he's an amazing plumber. He's an amazing plumber. It's like, oh, implying that like, actually, if he was a bad plumber, it would have been really embarrassing for her. But don't worry, he's like a really good plumber. So it's like, it's worth it to sleep with him. No one's had less shit in their pipes than customers of his. So don't you worry about it, Margaret.

So Teresa's like, you know, you're full of shit. You're the one that's a liar. And that was her that that was trying to hurt my family by putting out all these false accusations. And Mark was like, I put them out. Yes, I put them out. Yes, you and Rachel and draw you lying to them. And Rachel like, oh, lie about what? How could I lie when we're too busy going to the allergist? Do you want to hear about the allergist, anyone?

Anyone? Listen, I don't think we're lying. I think there might be some bone marrow stuck in somebody's throat. Just saying, it happens. Okay, it happens. Okay. It happens. I did like when Teresa goes, yeah, you know what?

You're so full of shit. That's why you had to marry a plumber. Thought that was a funny line. Probably written by somebody else, but I thought it was funny. So then, so Margaret's like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait. I'm gonna say a point blank.

Okay, I want everyone to be quiet. Be quiet. Let me finish here. Okay, tell me if this makes sense. So right when the warrior video comes out, right before that, she's, oh, it came from you, huh? She just said it, it came from her. And it's like, Teresa, please be quiet, okay?

Listen, here's what I'm saying. So, Loris, could you ask her to let me talk? She's like, ah, you just said it, you just said it, she just said it, to marry the diploma, because it's foolish. Oh my God, so she goes, you know what? You just said it. You just said it. She just said it. It's a marital plamaca defoliation. Oh my God. So she goes, you know what? Okay, here's, I'm trying to build this up in an artistic way, but you won't let me.

So you know what? Jackie had Louis X at her house there and then it just stops and everyone's mouth drops. Everyone is shocked. Even Rachel Fuda, who is still feeling a bit feisty about Teresa because they just fought about John Fuda. So it's like a boom moment with Jackie. Is this where she told her hot dog lips? Like you shut up with your hot dog lips. It was before this. Yes. They got into the whole thing where Rachel tried to step to Teresa and

Teresa was- Like Rachel, you look like you've just been deployed to save a bunch of people drowning in a lake. Like, can we please not call other people hot dog lips? I mean, Jesus Christ. You're not wrong, but you are on the wrong side of history on that one, you fucking hypocrites. So everyone is shocked. And so Jackie is like, what the fuck are you talking about in 2021? Are you out of your fucking mind? No. And Jen's like, Jackie, you had Louis X at your house? Because Jen, of course, is happy to amplify this because Jen doesn't like Jackie. She never has. Jackie says, no, I did not. I did not. I absolutely did not have her over.

Yeah, she did. Yes, she did. And Jackie's like, aren't you out of your fucking mind, Marge? She was 2021 before the warrior video came out even. And Teresa says, you're fake and you're funny and you're a liar. You're married to a plumber because you're a bully. And she's like, I'm just a talk ass. Let's talk. This is great. I'm Dan Tuberski. In 2011, something strange began to happen at the high school in Leroy, New York. I was like at my locker and she came up to me and she was like stuttering super bad. I'm like, stop f***ing around.

She's like, I can't. A mystery illness, bizarre symptoms, and spreading fast. Like doubling and tripling and it's all these girls. With a diagnosis the state tried to keep on the down-low. Everybody thought I was holding something back. Well you were holding something back intentionally. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah. Now it's hysteria, it's all in your head, it's not physical,

oh my gosh, you're exaggerating. Is this the largest mass hysteria since the witches of Salem? Or is it something else entirely? Something's wrong here, something's not right. Leroy was the new dateline and everyone was trying to solve the murder. So Melissa's like, Margaret, how do you know about this information? right now by joining Wondery Plus. So Melissa's like, Margaret, how do you know about this information? Okay, well I found out last week, cause guess what?

Redacted nameface called me. Yeah. And Jack is like, okay, you know, you're trying to make this about me and this actually about you. No, actually she said I called her. She goes, actually I called her. Oh, I called her.

To ask her, yeah. Oh, you're right. I called her, my bad. I called redacted face, okay? I literally found out last week, but I called the ex and I said, you know I said what is this meeting with James Leonard about and she said who's attending the party and I gave her a list of The people and I said even Jackie Goldschneider Jackie Judas Goldschneider is there and she goes why would she go?

I said because she's pathetic She calls people slobs when she has when she's bored and now she's going over there to get some free food and she hadn't You know and and then this face redacted face says, guess what? Jackie Jue's Gold Schneider had me at her house years ago. Yeah, it was on the heels of a hating you. And she goes, you know, I said, please send me the timeline and the screenshot of when you first spoke on the phone.

And she did. Margaret, Margaret getting the physical fucking evidence. I told her you send me a cricket mobile login so I can get the actual phone records and nothing can be deleted. Okay. And the exact date that she started speaking with her was February 25th, 2021. She befriended her. I did not mark with Joseph.

How dare you? And Teresa's just like Teresa just trying to figure out what the hell is going on here. Yeah, it's a lot of skills Jackie. Can I say one thing? I'm not a fucking slob. Okay, another thing Have you met with the X before this before you were friends and check us? No, no And Melissa goes she's just asking if you met her at her house. No, goes, no, no, I didn't. Admit if it's true because I'm sure there's proof. And Loretta goes, yeah. And then everybody goes quiet.

And Jackie just goes, I met with her. Okay, I met with her. Yeah, but we hated each other, you know? You went after my husband and I was scared to tell you because I didn't wanna fuck this up, you know, our friendship and everything. But you know what? I'm glad that you know now because I was just always nervous that you were going to find

out and I see it wasn't me. Shut the fuck up Marge. No, everything that came out was from her. Shut up Marge. Just no, you gotta come on me. So where's this discussion that Jackie just let Marge take the fall for this for years? Mar, even this whole year when she could have turned on Jackie after Jackie totally turning on her, could have done this this whole year and didn't do it until Jackie pushed her to this point at the finale. Exactly. And Jackie says, listen, it was February 21. Marge is a saint. A saint, I tell you. Go ahead. That season opened with me and Teresa and the whole world was weighing in on whether or not my husband was shooting on me. And Teresa and Jennifer were calling people trying to get information, my husband trying

to get pictures of women. And here comes this woman saying, Hey, I got something for you to put in your pocket. So if Teresa was to say to me, well, your husband did this, I could say, well, your husband did this. I mean, that's the game. That's the game we're playing. I'm like, but to your point, Ronnie, which is, was Jackie explains it all. Like, listen, we were in a fight at the time.

So of course I got this information. So why is it unjust for Margaret theoretically to say, well, I'm in a fight with Teresa. So of course I'm going to get this information. And for some reason it's only okay because Jackie was on the receiving end. Right. And she's just been lambasting somebody else for doing the exact same thing all year long, even though it was, it's now being proven that that was Jackie, not even Marge who did that. Oh, shame. Shame.

The shame in it. I still don't know why Jackie was not a full-time cast member this year. This is such a pivotal moment, you know? So Margaret's like, you're a fucking skank. And Jackie goes, oh, get the fuck out of here. You're a little fucking skank, skank face. Okay, I did meet with her.

I'm going to confess again, just in case you guys didn't get that the first time, because I'm sure it's going to get screen time. Right? So hold on. Let's start that over. Teresa, I did meet with her. And Melissa's like, but you still to invite her to your home. And Mark's like, you're a fucking lawyer and you know how to do it all.

Lawyers know how to invite people to homes. She did it, home inviter. She leaked the shit. She knows how to do it. And Jackie's like, no, no, of course not. And Jen's like, yeah, but we asked you point blank if you were aware, baby. And I said no, I said no. And then Danielle tells us, she goes, wow, it was Jackie the whole time. I'm glad I only invited her to one party and not going to lie. and this is what before you know Daniels like I was right about that one Daniel This is why I love Daniel because it just cuts to Daniel's confessional and she's cracking up laughing her ass off She's like, oh my god

And Margaret then has the line of the night which is you subpoenaed the wrong bitch And Margaret then has the line of the night where she goes, Yissapina the wrong bitch. Yissapina the wrong bitch, bitch. I had nothing to do with that. She goes, and you didn't put it in the media, neither? And she's like, no, I didn't put it in the media. And so she goes, I swear on my son's life. Dun, dun, dun.

And Jackie's like, I would never put anything in the media. I don't even know how to put anything in the media. What, how do you put things in, I would never put anything in the media. I don't even know how to put anything in the media. What, how do you put things in the media? I'm like, I'm coming out. Jackie's first season. She literally wrote an article about Jen, you're right. Her first season was about her writing an article about Jen's house, about spilling the tea

about Jen's house. And then she's like, oh, I don't even know how to like, gossip to it. I don't have any connections to any newspapers. Your initial storyline was being a writer for a newspaper. She was like the columnist in the newspaper. The columnist in the newspaper. And she shaded Jen's house, which was by the way, I fully stood behind Jackie on that storyline.

She shaded her house and her parenting, remember? When she said, you need to just give your kids everything that they want. That's not very healthy. Oh yeah? Can can't your bathrooms? The other one says pizza out of a box on the subway. So Dolores, it's just, it's just, it's, it's chaotic. And Marge is saying that she didn't speak to any bloggers or anything like that. And Jen is like, this is a fucking shit show. I don't even know why I'm here anymore. And Dolores is like, Jackie just admitted something to you and are you okay with that, Teresa?

And of course Teresa's like, yeah, I'm fine because like, you know, because she wasn't like bringing it. Doesn't make any sense. Basically she's saying it's okay with her because she didn't bring it on the camera. Marge brought it on the camera. So Jackie may have found it out. Ronnie is- Sorry, I'm I'm alert. The lies.

Do you want me to call my allergist? Maybe you got some bone marrow on your nose. Italian soul speeds. So then Melissa tries to insert herself again and she goes, well, we're not over the fucking sprinkle cookies, but that's okay. That's okay. She's just trying so hard to like get into a fight. No one's taking the bait. So Trace is like, yeah, I'm not even talking to her.

So I'm not surprised that Jackie talked to this person because I get why she did it because she thinks I was trying to hurt her with Evan, but I swear on my kids, I was not trying to hurt her. Oh, you weren't? You swore on your kids? Okay. Well, first of all, check the river because that's a blatant lie. Of course you were trying to hurt,

why else would you go around to every single person at her party saying that Evan cheated on her? Who were you trying to hurt, Teresa? Fucking liar, they all need to stop swearing on their children. And then in the next breath going, oh, how could you do that to my daughters? Children are off limits.

So they're just talking, you know, Margaret's talking to telling Jen like she had it right her house Can you believe it? She had it right her house and Jen's like, whoa, that's like really fucked up Jackie took that Margaret like went right over Margaret's head. I was like don't want none. Don't be none so Melissa's like She's like now Jennifer. Come on now. She's like I think that I think that Teresa needs to process like no 100% Look, she's really look there's a, I think that I think that Teresa needs to process like no 100% look. She's really looked. There's a lot of words that being thrown at her a lot of syllables. It's like it's like watching the traffic try to go into the Holland tunnel one car at

a time. Okay, let's just wait. Let's just wait. Let it process. But that word get into her into her brains. It's so funny. And she's like, yeah, I don't think she really heard it yet. And then she tells us, yeah, you know, Teresa.

Wait, who says Teresa has, oh, she goes, Teresa's also known to have a delayed reaction baby. So she needs time to let it process and settle. I don't know if she's gonna be okay. And that's so true. It could be like three years from now and Teresa's just gonna like wake up like it's springtime. I'd be like, bing, bing, bing.

Jackie, they're why. Dolores goes, all right. Well, I think we've all said what we had to say today. Actually, there's a lot of stuff that still needs to be said, but the key is that Jackie turns out she's the villain here. And I'm good with that. I'm good with that. She called me a slob.

My work is done. Slob Judy. All right. You can call me Slop Judy. Well, by the way, Jen is riding high because she knows she won her argument because she got Danielle to fight with her again. So she's just been having the best time.

She's like, well, this is absolutely lovely ladies. And she's like in this cartoon thing. She's literally acting like she's in a musical. Like she's so exaggerated. She's acting like she's in Guys and Dolls again. That's our girl. It's so exaggerated. She's acting like she's in guys and dolls again. That's our girl. So then Teresa's like, Oh really? What about Margaret? Wait, what are they talking about now?

She goes, what about Margaret? You were at my house and Danielle's like, she's like, no, not on the level that you let this one, you know, no, it's like not. Teresa's still trying to be like, but Margaret, but Margaret, no. It's over Teresa, sorry you lost this one. So Rachel and Marge leave and Rachel's like, I am exhausted, that was so hard. It was almost as hard as carrying Charcutti trays.

So it was very difficult. I need a nap. I mean, Jackie's posture, when you started talking, I literally saw her shirt start moving from her chest The distance between her shirt and her chest grew by three inches So then Jackie's like well, I never had anything to do with her again guys. That was the only time and Loris goes that's fine That's fine. Jackie Jackie. She's fine with it. You don't have to keep explaining yourself

You can go ahead and leave now Jackie your, your excuse. And Jackie's like, Okay, well, Teresa. Well, um, okay, well, we'll talk. Bye. Love you, Teresa. Bye lunch, right? Hey, talk soon. You'll call me on the way home. Okay. Um, I'll be waiting. And Jackie just sort of slinks away, slinks away. And Teresa has this very, very quick, she does this little grimace. So then Dolores is like, holy shit, Jackie's shitting her pants right now. She needs a fucking diaper in her car.

Look at her. You wanna talk about a slob. Look at all the feces on her legs after she's finished having diarrhea on her car. Oh my God. So then Danielle's talking to the girls outside and she goes goes wait a minute How did both Dino back at Jackie? What the fuck kind of detective is that doesn't find the Jackie's hanging out with the lady at the house?

Margeus they weren't even suspicious with her. That's how people do this. That is a game player right there She ain't on anybody's radar. That's the problem. Those are always the sneakiest ones. Let me tell you about a mad day Sam shoes, why That's the problem with those always the sneakiest ones. Let me tell you about a mad day, Sam. She was walking. And Jackie's walking out like Kaiser Soze. Like it is the most hilarious thing. And she does look like she shit her pants. She's walking kind of slowly and her, you know, she's walking like with her butt cheeks.

I mean, she does look like she literally pooped her pants. And then she sees the girls around the corner. She goes, oh my God, she's there. I'm not gonna go. I'm just gonna wait right there. It's like, oh God. Your final moment is standing around the corner, being too afraid to go out

while you look like you just pooped your pants after getting found out on national TV. You know, it's a shame. Because at the end of the day, I mean, we like Jackie, right? I mean, I think we both really like Jackie. I do actually really like Jackie. Oh God, I don't like this. Jackie's really stepped in the poop. But you know what though, it's a shame that these women are so

chaotic and like so, so venomous towards each other because had there been sort of like calmer discussion and like a calmer fighting like I fight now you fight moment, this could have been up there with Salt Lake City and the Monica reveal, you know But Salt Lake City has someone like Heather who can make an amazing speech as part of the reveal Mara could do that, but you have Teresa constantly interrupting her. So you have like a pretty great twist, but Well, you also had I mean I really think and this is just opinion, because obviously there's no proof in what I'm saying here, but it seems like Heather had that information a long time. Like looking back on that whole season and Monica

and how that whole thing unraveled and that Heather found out through her hairdresser who was Monica's best friend and then Monica was working for Jen and they didn't, it seems like there was a good chance that people in production knew that Monica was up to all this stuff and they were making it a good storyline

and Heather had time to prep all of this stuff. But I'm not taking away from it. It was a great season. But I think really for winging it as they did, I thought this was pretty good. I mean, I was cheering in my house. I was like, oh no, what? I was like screaming. That was an amazing twist.

Literally threw out the remote control in the air like a sitcom character who saw something shocking on TV. That's why I was like screaming in my house. So I thought it was pretty good. Yeah. And that's why I'm just shocked that Jackie was not a full on cast member because they really could have fleshed out more of Jackie's role and really made us feel a certain sort of thing. And then really they could have just amplified this moment even more, but it was still a pretty, pretty amazing twist. Like, it's definitely up there with Bravo twists. So, uh, you know, as the great, as a great person once said,

Okay, I gotta go back to the bill. So then Dolores is like, listen, I had to do it. Life is short. That's why. Now listen, family is everything audience, but this group is no longer a family. And now it's just Dolores. Everybody's left. And Dolores is just sitting alone at the table. And she's like looking off into space while they play memories of what a lovely time we've all had together as a cast and people laughing and talking about their husband's dicks and massaging cross-states, et cetera, et cetera.

And then it just shows Dolores like, they're like, Dolores, just sit there. We're trying to get a shot Dolores is like But that Cosmo hasn't completely been dry. I can't believe the Cosmo there So she reaches across and grabs since Cosmo starts drinking it like Dolores stay still we're trying to get this shot But there's a cracker here with some tuna What about taste? Wait a second. This is a cracker or is it puff pastry? God damn it.

Just so trying to have this big serious scene and montage and Dolores can't be like letting a drink go. She's like, oh, I can't, what is a busboy gonna get that? I do not want to contribute to busboy alcoholism. I've always wanted to try one of these, a Cosmo. And it ends, and the screen collapses in. It sort of does this thing from the top and the bottom,

it arrives up, it's like the barn doors close. And we see a montage of through the years of like, well, America, I hope you enjoyed it, because that's it, that's all you're gonna get. There'll be a viewing special next week, but, um, no reunion. And basically what Andy was saying today was like, what's the point of having a reunion? They, they confronted each other with everything. They talked over each other. Nothing was going to move. He's like, I would have just gotten that. You saw how I was. He told us

you saw how it was yesterday, last year during the reunion. I was more cross-eyed than I've ever been. I think, what's the point of me even doing this? But at the same time, that's always what it is. It's always been this way. There's never been a calm Jersey reunion. It's all screaming and he always gets pushed down or pushed out of the way or someone's screaming off camera. They're going to murder the other people that they have to leave because someone's getting physically violent. I mean, it happens every year. And so I think that Bravo is making the stance now because they've gotten more in trouble

for the past couple of years, right? Like we're a more sensitive country now. And so now it's like, you can't have violence and you can't have this and you can't have that is traumatic abuse. And so now people are more sensitive. So there's a rule now where if you don't, if you get physically violent, first of all,

you're gonna have at least a better chance of getting fired. But then it's also like, if you don't make up, you're fired. I mean, we just saw it happen with Potomac where he's like, okay, you guys have today to make up. He basically said it as a reunion. And then whoever didn't, see ya. I think he's just exhausted. I don't even, I would like to think it's because,

oh, well, we're trying to set a better example about violence. I think he's just like, I don't even, I would like to think it's because, oh, well, we're trying to set a better example about violence. I think he's just like, I don't want to spend another fucking 12 hours trying to talk sense into someone like Teresa Giudice and having these women yell over me and then say, why am I even there? This is like, he probably hates doing the Jersey reunion. That's sort of what I, what I gather. And he was just like, no, no, no, no.

There are a couple things at play here. I mean, one, if you're sitting on the network side of it, you're thinking, okay, well, we tried to do a Teresa free season and it was the season of the Marchesies and the twins. By the way, the Marchesies trying to make it sound like they've been asked back, which is such a bullshit. They're like, we'll see. We'll see if Andy can handle real Trump fans. I'm like, okay. So they're like, we tried this before and it was one of the most maligned seasons of Housewives that has ever been put out. So we can't do that. But I don't think that was necessarily just because of Teresa being

gone. It was also because you had kind of horrible people like the Marcheses stepping up to the plate. I say give the twins another season. Give them another job. I don't bring the twins back. Actually. Bring the, I would, actually the twins were hilarious and they deserve better than having Amber. Okay, so I say we can do like, you can reboot it, but like I think you have Dolores back, you have the twins. I personally like Margaret,

but they probably won't bring Margaret back. They probably wouldn't. I say Margaret, I say, keep. Margaret and the twins would be great. Margaret, the thing is this, Margaret is very funny and she's very quick and she's very sharp and whether you like her or not, those are good qualities to have in a real housewife. And I think you could have like Dolores and Margaret, twins, and then add some new people. And the other thing I think, well, I guess this is part of the same, this is another

side of the same coin, but the whole, we can't bring Teresa back or we can't fire Teresa again. You know, I was kind of with that this whole time. And I think I'd said on this show last week or somewhere, I was saying, you know, Teresa, she's got the Louis storyline, which as rough as it is to watch and as abusive as he seems, it is, it keeps you, it's a train wreck that keeps you glued to the TV. So I think they would choose her over the other team. But then last night happened and it's just more of Teresa talking over people being dumb as a brick, trying to excuse abusive behavior from a man. And

then when it cut to the commercial of her flipping a table, I was like it's this is over. Like this is officially the table flip. Like it's done. It's over. Pack your shit and get the fuck out. You know, and I think it's also interesting. It's also important to still set those, those precedents that like it doesn't matter how big you are. The show comes first and if you're not going to play ball, if you're just going to be ridiculous like this, I mean, Theresa plays ball, but she doesn't, she doesn't play ball in terms of like listening to other people say this,

that way they can have an effective conversation that could be good on TV. She shows up. She definitely shows up, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. We'll see the special next week. It's a lot to take in. This is a big episode. This is, this is a, this could be one of those episodes. We'll always remember. And, um, I guess it's a classic thanks everyone for being here and we'll catch you we still have house of the dragon to do and we've got a lot more coming up this week so we'll catch on the episodes and we'll talk to you

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