Watch What Crappens - #2512 RHOC S18E05 Part Two: Amiga to None

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

This is part 2Vicki shows up on The Real Housewives of Orange County to uplift fellow Christian women. Instead, Tamra stays pressed about Shannon’s drinking and “Lexi” continues to obse...ss over Storms while instigating yet another lawsuit against her obsession. Watch your bunnies, people. Jesus Jugs is unhinged. Watch this recap as a video and get our Love Island bonus episodes at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watch Your Crappins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Watch What Crappens! Watch What Crappens! Guess what happens when there's so much that happens! Well hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens! This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye, enjoy the show.
Starting point is 00:00:47 So and she starts, you know, she goes through this whole thing. And then Alexis, of course, is like, oh, I mean, Tam, Tam, listen, Tam, I know you must feel so guilty, Tam, because, you know, Lexi knows, Lexi gets it, Tam, because you know, you have a good heart. You have a good heart, Tam. Okay, so now she's Tam. So now you're just gonna overly familiarize yourself with everybody by giving them shortened names.
Starting point is 00:01:10 God, Alexis is such a dumb ass. She's like asserting her power there, right? And so- Hey, Tam. Me and you, Tam. Me and you together. I wanna be Tam. Tam and Lexi. I like that. I'm Tam, Tam and Lexi.
Starting point is 00:01:21 HGLL, happy-go-lucky Lexi. So Tam is like, I know, but it like, it puts so much stress on me. I've always felt really sorry for Shannon, like back from the days with David, I was always there for her, I was always listening to her problems, always using them against her,
Starting point is 00:01:36 but in a way that a friend would. And I was always like trying to help her out by undermining her. But if I needed something, which was rare, cause I don't need anything, she was never there. But apparently I needed her a lot because I don't need anything, she was never there, but apparently I needed her a lot because I don't need anything,
Starting point is 00:01:46 but she was never there when I did need something. And she was never there for me is what I'm trying to say. But that's not true. Just a couple of weeks ago, didn't Shanna say, but I did call you when she said something like, I did call you when, I don't know if Eddie had some medical thing.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I feel like Eddie has a lot of medical things, but she's like, Eddie had a thing and you didn't call me. She's, I did call you. She goes, well, not enough, but I called you and you never called me back. You didn't call me enough bitch. Tamra says, I'm not falling for this. It's the same thing over and over with Tamra. If anybody is a terrible friend on this show is Tamra. She is the queen terrible person. I'm not going to hear it. I will not hear this Shannon slander. So Tamra's like, somebody in that level needs rehab. And Alexis is like, well, I thought she did. No, she went to quote unquote therapy for her not to date the wrong
Starting point is 00:02:37 guys. She's blaming him for her drinking. I was like, well, I mean, I'm not going to like this Shannon for going to therapy. and Alexis is like, can I tell you something? Okay, can I say John? Johnny as I call him. I know it's just think about it. John and Johnny you had like an you had an N and a Y to it and it becomes Johnny. It's cool. Anyway, he's barely drank anything since I've been with him this entire time. I mean, it's been like happy go lucky Lexi and Johnny just not drinking all this time and just having sex four times a day. That's like our relationship now. You know, it's so weird to hear you say John, you know, because like it's just like so different the way that you describe him,
Starting point is 00:03:11 the way that Shannon tells us that he pays for everything and that she pays for everything for John. And you know, she always said that. And then she said, I borrowed $60,000 from John. She was actually, it was $75,000 and it was from Johnny. From the bank of Happy Go Lucky Lexi, so Tamara says that, you know last year she told me that he paid for her facelift.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Normally when you break up, you have to give like a ring back or something. So how the fuck is she gonna give her face back? I'm like, ma'am, have you never seen the movie Face Off? It can scientifically happen. You giving her boobs the movie face off? It can sign to be happy and back at the same times. It can literally happen. You are living proof. You are walking proof. So Alexis tells us, I don't want to go into battle. Okay. But if you, if you're going to lie about the man that I'm going to marry Johnny, okay. And ruin our reputation
Starting point is 00:04:02 together, she's going to need another fat bas face lift to pick up her jaw from the floor and she'll probably need some dental work because she might have broken a tooth when her jaw hit the floor. And it could be a crown, who knows? But I'm the queen here, so her crown's not gonna be a crown like that. It'll be a mouth crown, okay?
Starting point is 00:04:17 So there, dis. Don't throw around a violent puzzle when you live in a jigsaw face house, okay lady? Who's anybody on this show to judge anybody else for their plastic surgery? Don't throw around a violent puzzle when you live in a jigsaw face house, okay lady? Who or who's anybody on this show to judge anybody else for their plastic surgery? I know. This is infuriating.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So Alexis is like, she's poking a bear. She's poking a bear. Oh really Alexis, why don't you get another man to sue her? Cause that seems to be your specialty. It's two in a row. That's pretty good. I mean, I will say. Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:04:44 She's got two men in a row suing Shannon. She's obsessed. So then we go to Jean at her house with her son, Bad. And she's like, where's your brothers Feel and Bead? And yeah, it's like things are happening around town. I think that's what it would be. If her boy is named Bead, then the brothers would be I and Feel.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah, I and Bead. So he messed that one up twice. So then we see Emily is asking Annabelle's opinions on dressing up. And then Katie is dressing up in front of her daughter. And now we arrive at Gina's party and we're at a place, I think it was called like Ben and Malory's or something. And they're there and Gina is talking to this is a Gina hosted party, by the way, significant. We always talk about how Gina never host parties. So she must have sold the house.
Starting point is 00:05:37 It's a restaurant. It's like at the back of a Chili's. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we should have known. So this mixologist is walking like he just took it from the whole football team. This guy's got weird meat energy. He's got weird meat energy. You know meat, when you go to a butcher and they're wearing those big rubber aprons, he's wearing a rubber apron, right?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Is that in my head? He's so weird. He comes up, he's like, hi, just tell me your flavors and we'll create something for you. She's like, I like sweets. Got it. It's going to go create a whole menu based on sweets, I guess. Yeah. And he also asks what her allergies are. And she goes, um, I'm allergic to assholes. And then she tells us, I feel like there's a strong possibility that I may have an
Starting point is 00:06:23 allergy attack tonight. Oh God, you're like a bee giving itself anaphylactic shock. So then the ladies arrive and Gina greets them and she's like, Oh my God, it's a pre-fixed menu for the Noi. That pre means before and fixed means it's fixed because right now it's before anything's fixed. And I, nevermind, I don't want to say it. I feel bad. I feel so bad. it's fixed because right now it's before anything's fixed and I never mind I don't want to say it feel bad I feel so bad so now Shannon and Vicki are in a car arriving they're driving along the way and Shannon's looking something up she goes
Starting point is 00:06:56 well Victoria did you know that apparently I cannot go to Mexico for ten years with a DUI so well I guess I'll just let that sombrero catch some dust on it. I'm like, what am I supposed to do? And Vicky's like, well, maybe you can go to San Diego and then you can like cross the border. Sure, sure, yeah, great, great idea. It doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It doesn't count in San Diego. It's still going to Mexico. The logic here. So she's like, well, I'm not excited about sitting at a dinner table with Alexis and Tamara who are apparently going by Lexi and Tam now. How am I supposed to deal with Alexis and Tam? You know, I know that Vicki will have my back and that she supports me, at least for this season. So I'm bringing her along. Are we gonna whoop it up tonight?
Starting point is 00:07:47 Are we gonna whoop it up? Are we gonna whoop it up? Are we gonna whoop it up? No, no, we can whoop it up without alcohol. I mean, I would suggest it. You can drink though, you can drink. I've got your back, drink. You should drink right now.
Starting point is 00:07:58 On camera, in front of the camera, do it. Do it, it's gonna be great. I've got your back. Well, I unfortunately already whooped it up earlier today because I poured myself a bowl of ancient grains, which is my version of whooping it up. So Gina's like, I mean, wow, because they come in and Tamara is wearing
Starting point is 00:08:17 Gina's confessional dress. They've got the same interview look. But I feel like more successfully. Wasn't it Jen? No, it was Tamara who's wearing it. No, I think it was Jen who was wearing it. I thought it was Jen who was wearing her same dress because I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:08:32 both the poor people have on the same dress. No, I remember being Tamara personally. But either way. It's hard to tell because they look exactly the same, even when they're like, oh, here's a flashback, here's Jen in Vegas. I was like, wait, Tamara went to Vegas too? And they just said Jen.
Starting point is 00:08:47 It's like, is that Lori wearing? Either way, whoever was wearing it was wearing it better than Gina, I'll just tell you that much. So Gina's like, I mean, this is like fucking bullshit. This bitch is wearing my dress and she has bigger boobs than me. It's like fucking bullshit. I still think I want better, but like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:09:04 I just feel bad. So then the girls, they're all, you know, saying hi to each other. And Heather- I looked it up because, you know, I have to know. And it's crazy how much this happens on this show. Gina slams Tamra Judge for buying same interview dress. Okay, so you're right.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It wasn't Jen. Anybody slamming their steering wheel. And then Tamra is wearing the same dress Katie wore at the Gretchen, just wear the same dress, the same Zimmerman dress as Raquel from VPR. Heather Dubrow and Vicki Gunthelsen wore the same Fendi dress. It's like, wow. It's like, our lives right on this Google page. Don't forget that famous blue Terry Mugler dress. Mugler, Mugler, Mugler, Mugler. Dress. Yeah, everyone's making the rounds. The stylists are making the rounds with everyone.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So anyway, Heather's like, oh, Tamara, could you move my chair? Because I don't want to sit across from Katie. I just, I can't do that, okay? And I don't want to sit next to Gina. Also, I kind of just, I don't really want to sit next to any poor people. I'll just sit in that corner over there, in a wealthy corner,
Starting point is 00:10:09 and I'll just put up a little cell phone wall, and that way I can watch you guys like I'm in Dead Man Walking. And then they're talking about how hard it is to see anybody anywhere, because everybody hates each other. And they all start sitting down finally, and Tamara leans over to Katie.
Starting point is 00:10:25 She's like, I'm so confused. I thought this is the paparazzi stuff. Where are we? What's the paparazzi stuff? What's gonna happen today? What happened with it? Well, you know, Gina and I discussed it and I told her, I felt like it was,
Starting point is 00:10:36 I was kind of sidelined a little bit and that hurt me a lot because it's my good dear friend and I'm rethinking a lot. You know what I mean? I'm thinking about things." And Tamara's like, I don't understand that concept, thinking about things. So they all get their cocktails. And Tamara, of course, notices Emily's brand new ring because, of course, and Emily's talking about how she got it for her anniversary. And then Alexis starts, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:02 chiming. It's like, oh my God, is there a new ring? This reminds me so much of the one that Johnny J got for me. It has diamonds and there's an inscription that says to happy go lucky Lexi you're my favorite and there's never been anyone like you. It's just like really amazing. Well we went to dinner for our anniversary and I pulled out of my photo to get them. It's like this big it's huge huge. And Heather's like, wait, like sexy photos. Yeah. Were you eating a turkey sandwich in the photos? Well, that was one of the options. I'm not going to lie. So then we see a flashback of this boudoir photo. I'm really hoping this is the end of the boudoir photo arc. It feels like it can't go anywhere from here. So I'm hoping that this is now, this is the grand finale is this flashback.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Every Emily storyline for the past 18,000 years and she just keeps coming back with them. So I don't think there's any eradicating this. I think it's one of those things. I think it's like taxes. It's just one of those things we deal with. Yeah, I think you're right. So then Alexis, of course, leans into Katie and goes, so I hear you had a golfing event
Starting point is 00:12:06 without happy-go-lucky Lexi. You know, I do live on a golf course. So I sort of, I understand what golf is. So I don't know why I'm not there. So what was the thought process? Cause like only one person was left out of that. Like that's crazy. You know, that would be like the waiter
Starting point is 00:12:21 not giving me more water refills when I have a swimming pool. Yes, well, I got to know Shannon a little bit and I thought, let me give her a day to know these girls where she doesn't have to feel like she's underwater, you know? Yeah, but you guys have to understand where Lexus is coming from. I mean, she works so hard to sleep with this guy just to get back on the show and then she doesn't get to get back on the show. I mean it's just me thinking about Alexis' feelings. It's just not fair. It's just like not fair. Like this is just like so not fair to me right now. Poor Alexis Bellino, the victim in this. You're a friend of, I'm convinced that she thought she was a full-fledged cast member at this point and that's why she was really mad. She felt like she was being iced out of, you know, scenes where she was a cast member.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So then Shannon and Vicky come and they're like, oh my, is this, oh, is this a bookcase or is it a door? Wait, is that a bookcase? Why is the bookcase moving? Vicky, the bookcase. Why is the bookcase moving? What's it doing? Where's it going?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Are they moving? Is the restaurant closing? Are they moving out Is the restaurant closing? Are they moving out? Oh my God, we're here to party. We're here to open up. You can't burn in the middle of our warm in the ass. Oh my God, it's the door.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I can't help but notice that this bookcase has opened up more than David Bedore did in 15 years of marriage. So congratulations, bookcase. Oh my God, this is like Cardia. It's like Cardia. Okay, listen, if we go through there and there's another world,
Starting point is 00:13:43 then there's gonna be a white witch who's gonna offer you chocolate. Do not take the chocolate. Just know the lion is Jesus. Okay? Hug the lion, no matter how scared you are. Hug it. Is that Gina Kehoe in there? Is Gina Kehoe in the alternate universe? She was also on a million dollar listing. They had a listing in Orange County because they're desperate right now, so they're taking like Orange County listings and they had a broker's open and Gina's like, hi, I'm Gina Keough from whatever Keough Realty. And they're like, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And then she just walks past. I'm like, okay, well, I guess that name carries no weight here, I will have a sugar cookie. Have we talked about Gina Keough's latest, her recent photos that she's been posting and her daughter's responses to them? Cause that is funny. No, we haven't talked about it over there. We haven't talked about that at all, but Gina keeps on posting these photos where she has,
Starting point is 00:14:36 it's like a combination of face tuning and just like AI in her face where like the face is just, it just is a different person and her daughter. Meredith Marks filter. Like, who is this? This doesn't even look like a human person. And her daughter, her daughter's name is Kara, right? Kara's like, mom, take this down right now. Stop it, mom, this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Stop it, stop it, mom. So funny. Okay, so, Tamara, okay, so Shannon and Vicky go through this crazy door and Tamara's like, oh my God, look, it's the wicked race of the world. The wicked race of the world. Is Tammy Knickerbocker here? So then Tamara's like,
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'm not surprised that Shannon brought Vicky because she needs backup. She wants people to do her dirty work so she can sit there and look like the victim. Tamara, I mean, like literally that's how you play Housewives. You have to bring up, you bring your backup. I mean, why are you recruiting Alexis Bellino so hardcore right now?
Starting point is 00:15:35 You just went to her house. You just put a cocktail. She is the victim, by the way. She is the victim. And Tamara's like, I can't believe she's gonna act like a victim. What are you drunk? What are you drunk?
Starting point is 00:15:43 Stupid alcohol, stupid face, nobody loves you. Hey, Shannon, why don't you order yourself a man? Because you can't keep one. That's right. Tell her, Alexis. Tell her. Drunk Shannon, stupid drunk bitch. Hey, Shannon, you look kind of older today. Am I right, guys? Why are you acting like such a victim over there? Why are you crying? Come on, guys. So, So Vicky sits down and she's like, hi Alexis. And Alexis goes, oh, Luke is in my world now. Vicky's like. And we see the clip of Vicky meeting her for the first time and going, oh, hello, welcome to my world.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I love Alexis. Alexis has been holding on to that quote for like over 10 years at this point. I don't even remember that scene happening. Was that like a, that was not a famous scene, was it? Was that like a famous like frosty welcome by Vicky Gundelson? I don't remember that even being a thing, but apparently it was. And enjoy your year, Alexis, enjoy your part-time year. So Vicky's like, what is wrong with this woman? She said, Tabra, Hedda, you want to be friends with her? I mean, it's loony toots.
Starting point is 00:16:45 She's got cuckoo bird. The girl's got crazy, crazy. She's crazy. She's crazy right now. I'm in her world. Sit down, bitch. So then- It's like we on a vacation without a laptop at the beach.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Cuckoo bird would never happen. It would never happen. So now it's time to take some drink orders and Vicky leans over to Shannon and goes, you're not driving tonight, you can have a drink. Have a drink, have a drink. So Shannon's like, oh, well, I mean, well, I mean, she does have a point.
Starting point is 00:17:13 So I'm gonna have the Belvedere and soda with some lemon. My first drink of the night, excluding the other four that I had on the way over here. I'm just, I limit myself now. And of course everyone's listening to this drink drink order like, oh, scandalize that she would drink. And Vicki's like, you can have a drink, you can have a drink, you're not driving, don't worry about it, don't listen to these people. She goes, I'm aware Vicki, I'm aware that I can have a drink. Thank you for announcing it to the table. Oh yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:38 you know what, an alcoholic should drink. That's what should happen. An alcoholic. I'm drinking, look at that. They should really send Tamara out to New Horizons or whatever the name of the place and mouth promises. She just shames everyone in rehab. Good job, everyone. Alcoholics antagonizing. I was trying to think of a name for like alcoholics and honors, but it's like something that's
Starting point is 00:18:03 antagonizing because it's Tamara. Like you don't even get the chance to go around in the circle where you get to say like, hi, my name is Shannon. I'm an alcoholic. She's like, hey, everybody, that's Shannon. She's an alcoholic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Alcoholics Anonymous would definitely not work for Tamara because she would just leak everyone's names out to the press. Definitely was that Alcoholics Anonymous the other day. Yeah, bitch. definitely not work for Tamara because she would just leak everyone's names out to the press. Alcoholics exposed with Tamara. That's Gene. He drinks too much. He sometimes does coke and has an obsession with his mother. That's not a here nor there, but it's pretty funny. Hey, Gene, hey, Gene. Hey, Gene, instead of giving you a chip, can we give you an apple?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Cause it's fat too, everybody. It's a mix of food alcoholism as well. Here's the machine. So the table, of course, is gonna be a slap. All right, Gene, I had Gene stuck in my head. Sorry, I let you back. It's not for Gene. Not to be confused with our digital assistant, Gene. Gene, J-E-A-N, how can I had Gene stuck in my head. Sorry, I let you back. It's never Gene. Not to be confused with our digital assistant, Gene.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Gene, J-E-A-N, how can I help you? Oh, that's right. How can I help you today? Hey, Gene, can you look up some meetings for Alcoholics Anonymous? Oh, you know what? I meant to look that up, but you know what? I think I have to go to the library.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Well, you can't go to the library, Gene. You're a digital assistant. You don't to the library. Well, you can't go to the library, you're a digital assistant. You don't have a body. Sure, I can. Oh, hey, you know, did you want me to look up Alcoholics Anonymous? Here's a muffin recipe. You know, would you, Alcoholics Anonymous,
Starting point is 00:19:39 would you like to know any of their last names? Because, you know, if you're trying to make new friends, you really should know who the last names of these people are. So, everyone's just kind of staring because Tamra is just so mean she's like oh yeah alcoholics yeah alcoholics should drink and so everybody's just looking at her like oh my god awkward right and so Vic is like um she could have alcohol she just can't get by the wheel ever, ever, ever, ever. Okay. Do you truly believe that she does have a drinking problem? Do you? Tamara, you have been on this for the past 10 years with me, Tamara.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Everybody has. That's been drinking. Ever. Disgusting. If you really do think she has a drinking problem, this is horrible. You're not allowed to say this to people with drinking problems. Well, also you're not the one who gets to say it. Like, I mean, you may gossip like, yeah, she probably drinks too much, or maybe she needs help. But this is a have you ever seen any intervention? This is not how interventions work. First of all, you Tamra Tamra is messing up because she knows how to she knows how to
Starting point is 00:20:37 do the victim thing really well. Victim antagonize her thing. And she knows the way you do it is she shows up with like a note and she cries to it. Shannon, I love you so much, but I'm hurt so much by the time when you ordered Belvedere at Gina's dinner party. It is like a dagger to my stomach. Like that's what she's supposed to do and cry. And then she can make herself look like the victim. But instead she's just coming on really strong and really attacky. Now it's making all of us say, who are you to say that Shannon has a drinking problem just
Starting point is 00:21:07 because she crashed her car into a wall and gets drunk every episode on this show? Yeah, I mean, Tamara is basically counting on the audience being so mad that Shannon got a DUI that she's going to be on the righteous side and go against Shannon. But unfortunately, you're so bad at this this year that you've gotten us all on the side of the person who got the DUI. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Well, the thing is where she's messing up is that what it's coming off as is that she's like weaponizing alcoholism and like ultimately alcoholism is, you know, it's like, I don't know. It's a disease, right? I don't know. I'm like trying to think for a moment I was like, is it a mental health thing? But it like, it sort of, it covers, it covers different areas there in a way that's like pretty gross to weaponize the way that Tamra is. So it's just not really landing very well. And which is classic, classic Tamra. I mean, I almost feel like I shouldn't even be mad. I should be like, thank you. Thank you for being so clunky about this right now. Commercials, here comes one right now.
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Starting point is 00:25:28 Okay, and now let me tell you something. Let me tell you every fricking day, and I'm holding a tiny pencil and I'm waving it in your face every fricking day that I wake up, I think about what happened. I think about how Archie needed to pee so bad. But he forced me to cook a house that had things that were a little bit too long, but I was only trying to help look decent for its first day at school.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I think about that poor house that was damaged because some of Archie's pee got onto my foot and it really freaked me out. It was just a terrible moment. Terrible, terrible, terrible. And she goes, yeah, I think about it every day. Every day, what happened? Tamara goes, oh yeah? Is that after you have a drink?
Starting point is 00:26:12 All right, well, you know, yeah, that was a pretty sick burn, Tamara, I acknowledge. But you know what? Honestly, I think she's changed. I'm sorry, you can get mad at me, but I really think Shannon's changed. Surprise, I bet you didn't think I was gonna say that after we walked along and puffed her jackets along the beach this morning but
Starting point is 00:26:27 guess what? I'm taking Shannon's side. I think she's really doing a good job of working on herself and I understand why it's hard for you, Tamara, but you know what? Like at least she's not calling the paparazzi on herself. By the way, I think I also would like some I Feel Bad Vadeer on the rocks please. Thank you so much. So Gina's like, she's like, you know what, it's not for Timra to decide if Shannon's an alcoholic. It's not for Timra to bring her and make her feel worse than she already feels because you know, she's supposed to be your friend. So I don't get this behavior at all. And in fact, you know what it makes me feel?
Starting point is 00:27:06 Bad. Well, Tamra, you know what? Let's look at your drinking. Let's look at your drinking. Which I wish they had put in a montage of Tamra just being cross-eyed drunk, because she is all the time. Or like the time that she was on the floor
Starting point is 00:27:20 of that restaurant making out with Bronwyn, or I don't know, just last week, Shanna's just like, what about your drinking? You went dead weight at Nobu. And by the way, let's not forget that last season, yeah, Nobu, I think, I don't know if this is an allusion to that Nobu dinner or if there was another one off camera, but like she got wasted at Nobu
Starting point is 00:27:43 and she got into a huge fight. She screamed at Jen and then afterwards she's like, I just got so drunk. I got so drunk. I blacked out and I didn't even realize what I was saying. I'm like, well, that would also make someone want to say maybe you're an alcoholic, right? If you're getting so wasted at a fancy restaurant and then you're screaming at a dear, allegedly a dear friend, that's like not a great endorsement of your drinking behavior either, ma'am. Right. And Tim was like, so what, bitch? She goes, well, you've had to have people sit in the car with you and drive home. So what? There's a big difference between drinking and having a good time and being an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Not really. I mean, look, here's the difference. Alcoholics say I'm an alcoholic. That's it. That's really the only difference. I mean, or alcohol, I mean, in society, you know what I mean? Like we could, Shannon could do, Shannon and you, everybody on these shows can keep it up doing it to this level forever. Dorinda is a perfect example. Dorinda can keep doing that forever.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And people are like, ah, she's a lush or whatever. But it's not until Dorinda says, I'm an alcoholic, that people are like, oh my God, this is something we have to take serious. And it becomes a whole new set of rules on how you deal with it. You don't get to just use that as a weapon. I don't think it's gross.
Starting point is 00:28:51 She's gross. No shock. So Katie, Katie, you're gross. You're gross, you're trash. I feel bad. Katie is like, oh Jen, is this what every dinner is like? And she's like, yes, thank you so much for asking. Okay, well, your dinner looks really good.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Yeah, so does yours. I love that, I love a free meal. So, Gina's like, well, okay, Vicky, how do you feel about this Vicky? Because between them, like, I'm just like curious. And Vicky's like, I think it's disgusting. It's disgusting, it's disgusting, you know why? Because a friend is a friend, okay?
Starting point is 00:29:22 It's a friend, it's a friend, that's what I'm saying. What's disgusting? This whole thing, this whole fighting thing that you people are doing. It's disgusting what you do. What are you women? What are you women who are fighting? It's disgusting. But Vicky, you fight all the time and I see you post stuff about her and she's posting something about traitors and you were like, oh, that's a perfect show for you. And we see a screenshot of Tamara tweeting about traitors and Vicky saying that's a perfect show for you and Vicky's like yeah it is because like what happened she like traded she was she traded on traitors and Tamra's like no I was faithful I was faithful bitch okay I
Starting point is 00:29:54 just decided to vote you two out okay and I didn't feel comfortable doing the show because Shannon just crashed her car in the house I was drunk and she needed to go to rehab bitch yeah but she did go to rehab she did she was a derpy to figure out why she needs bad guys. She's totally different. And Alexis is like, Oh, bad guys. Surely she's not talking about Johnny J, right, Tam? As she knocks over four glasses with her boobs as she shimmies,
Starting point is 00:30:18 Happy-go-lucky, Lexi. So she has, This has to stop. I've had two conversations with you on the telephone. Yeah, and you've been drunk every time. And I couldn't drink in my program, so this has to stop. I've had two conversations with you on the telephone. Yeah, and you were drunk every time and I couldn't drink in my program. So you need to stop. I was not drinking in my program. La la la la la la la la. It's all you fucking use, la bitch. Okay, well, you know what? You need to stop because because because um because because because is that Belvedere here yet? I just okay. I'm not drinking. I have no problem.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Stop whininging you bullshit. How you have to pay for everything for John. Remember when he said that? Remember when he said he had to pay everything for John? Get to that point, because I got some evidence to present. You know what? In the beginning I did, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:55 those moon over my hammies did not pay for themselves. Okay? Oh yeah? Then how come you owe him $70,000, man? And Alexis again has to be like, 75. Like they keep getting the number wrong. You remember the number is 75. It's Shannon's age, 75.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So then she has like, I've had enough. I am going to leave out of here as soon as I figure out which one of these bookshelves is the door out of here. Okay. Abracadabra. No, that's just a book. Okay. One moment, everyone. Abracadabra. Um, no, that's just a book. Okay. One moment everyone. Abracadabra. Oh no. Another dog. Oh, that's a dog that looks just like Archie. That's weird. Oh, that's mine. I adopted him. We call him Arch. Open sesame. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:31:37 This is, does anyone know? I was just trapped in here. Is there a way for me to get out? I'm trying to have a storm out moment. Thank you very much. Well, I'm just going to put on my invisibility cloak and I'm just going to sit here and I'm trying to have a storm at moment. Thank you very much. Well, I'm just gonna put on my invisibility cloak and I'm just gonna sit here and not mind. I can see you, bitch. Hey, you can't, you cannot see me. Sick head. So-
Starting point is 00:31:55 Wait, I don't understand. Why does Shannon owe money? She doesn't. We can see you, Shannon, okay? You're gonna pretend you're gone, you can't talk. Okay, I will be quiet. Yeah, so why does Shannon owe money? A facelift, because she got a facelift and a loan.
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's why, ask Johnny, Johnny J. Okay, I am removing myself out of my invisibility cloak, and we know you've been coach Alexis, and like, I cannot do this. Okay, I am going to storm out in, I'm just gonna make an authoritative knock. Excuse me, I am trying to storm out of this library. Help me please, thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:28 You're knocking on the Kindle in your purse, Shannon. Well, that's how I read books. Oh, bookshelf, bookshelf. Oh, well, it's this book. This book says 12-step program. Oh, well, I'm just gonna put that back. So Alexis is like, oh, do you want to see? You fell down every single one. You got damn alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Well, I am doing a lot of stairs by the beach, but I'm not in a 12 step program because I don't need you. Smart. Well, I'm going to everybody. Happy go lucky, Alexi. Here it is. Bank of America proof. Everybody want to see it? I've got it on my phone. All it is, Bank of America, proof. Everybody wanna see it? I've got it on my phone. All pulled up already. I've got wire transfers. Anybody wanna see it? And they do.
Starting point is 00:33:10 They all start passing around the phone. No, I would say fuck no. I don't wanna see it. It's none of my fucking business. Who cares? This doesn't prove anything that John gave her money. Maybe he was repaying back money that he spent of hers. Maybe he was giving her the money.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Nowhere does it say loan to Shannon unless I'm mistaken and those checks say loan to Shannon for facelift. Well, it seems like Heather's awfully quiet now that some screenshots have appeared considering how mad she was about Katie's. So Shannon's like, I'm fucking believable. And Tamara's like, my face, my face is going to be called out liar face. And Emily's like, she's a liar, liar spanks on fire. Why are you guys making Gina the best one here right now? Vile, so gross. Really gross. So Shannon goes to the restaurant part and she's like,
Starting point is 00:33:59 oh, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, she's like a J, a J machine gun. John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, just walking over people's tables. Getting her receipts, receipts from John Jansen. She's like a J machine gun. Just walking over people's tables. Receipts from John Jansons! And then we go back to the private room and Gina's looking over the phone. She goes, oh my god, this is an actual receipt. It's actual.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And Katie's like, was this a gift or a loan? They were loans and like one is like the facelift and the other is just because Shannon needed money. And he was like, Johnny J was like generous enough to give her the money. That's just like my Johnny right there. Just so generous. Well, I hope that a lawyer is watching this because she just admitted that Johnny was generous and gave her the money. You don't say, look, how much was that one? I had Alexis, you're terrible at this. Jen's like, Oh, I didn't know she had a facelift. Jen's a little late to the party. Wow, she's had a facelift?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Wow, I just wish I could talk to the old face and say, you know what, thank you so much for how kind you were to me. And then I would go to this other face and I say, have you met that old face? Both of you are such lovely people. You should not have lunch together one day. You're just both great.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Thank you so much. Katie goes, yeah, she looks really great. Yeah, she looks really wonderful. You know, for someone who stole someone's money, like she looks great doing it. Yeah, I believe that. I say she just keep the money. Cause if you look that good with that money,
Starting point is 00:35:17 that means you know how to invest wisely. And Alexis is like, my boyfriend's reputation has been demolished and you've been fed by her. You don't know the truth. So let me tell you the truth about Johnny J. Because like, do you know the truth of Alexis? Do you know? You're hearing it from John Alexis. Is that even the truth? Is that the truth? Get a job. Get a job. It's bad when Vicki Gumbelson is like the voice of reason. So Alexis is like, you know, you've been lied to
Starting point is 00:35:45 and I'm telling you right now, there's a lot more. And if she wants to go toe to toe, I'm like ready. Okay, happy go lucky, Lexi is ready to go toe to toe. And the producer is like, so what are you talking about, Alexis? Like, what do you have? And she's like, I'm confident in everything Johnny J says because I've watched his actions and we're together 24 seven.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And so they formed this opinion by Shannon calling these other women late at night drunk telling them horrible stories about John and that nothing has been true. And none of that could be further from the truth. Not a thing. What did she say? I just remember Shannon sticking up for John.
Starting point is 00:36:25 The other stuff was stuff that other people were bringing on camera, like Tamra saying, oh, she calls me all the time saying that she's mean and that she pays for everything. Shannon never said that stuff on camera. Shannon cried to call you guys and talk about her shitty relationship. And you guys are the ones who brought it on camera
Starting point is 00:36:42 to drag Shannon with it, which probably broke up her relationship in the first place. And now you're using that against her and saying that she bitched, she brought all this stuff. You guys are jerk. Listen, Shannon was protecting John, you know, when there were allegations that he showed up wasted at a golf course, which we knew were true because we saw how Shannon and John were pounding down the tequilas at Bronwyn's vow renewal party right before the pandemic. Like I'll always remember that episode when they were in Palm Springs and they like went back to their room
Starting point is 00:37:11 and he was just sitting there like, like just drinking that booze. And then the rumor comes out that he was wasted and that his dad had to pick him up. And she said, what? That's right, he doesn't even drink. He doesn't even know what golf is. He doesn't even have a father. He was just born. They found him in the field one day. I think he came from
Starting point is 00:37:27 space. He used to have a little red cape. He was very strong. He sometimes goes up to some frigid area and just hangs out by himself. Who is John Jansen? I don't even know who this person is. She went out of her way. Yeah, she really did. And that's the only one I remember that was something really bad that anybody said about John. But he, but she went out of her way to cover for him. He did not protect her because she had to deal with the stress of, of having to keep all this stuff behind closed doors that he was putting on to her when he was the one who entered into this relationship with someone who was already on TV and then puts this pressure on her to keep things private.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And then she is cracking under this pressure. We see her pretty much break down and he's terrible to her and he's not protecting her. And now Alexis is going to say, Oh, well, she didn't protect him. No, no, no, it doesn't work that way, ma'am. Shannon was the hero in that relationship. Yeah. Um, yeah, Alexis is gross and you know, she's standing up for a really gross guy. John was the one who came on TV and called Emily a fucking bitch and did all that. John has earned his reputation. Shannon didn't do that. And anything that's brought onto TV
Starting point is 00:38:29 that was mean about John was brought onto TV by Tamara, herself, not Shannon, which is also so Tamara, to bring things up, to ruin something, and then a year later, use it as evidence against somebody else. And she was the one who did it in the first place. It's just so her, it's so her. And it makes me crazy, because they all know this and they just go with it. Emily's like over there
Starting point is 00:38:48 making jokes, you know, they just all go with it. So Vicky's like, Oh, John's not a victim. He's not a victim. You know what you tried to protect it and you don't need to and Alexis goes, see, I mean, Vicks, now you're still adding, you're just going to add names to him. And I don't know what that means really exactly. But you're adding names to him and it's done. Okay. It is done. He's never acted like a victim except of, you know, being robbed and his reputation been demolished. Like, what are you talking about? Your whole thing is sitting here talking about what a victim he fucking is. So now Jen emerges from this room and find Shannon who's just standing in a random corner
Starting point is 00:39:25 of the restaurant and Shannon goes, you know what? It really, it really hurts my feelings that nobody came out to see if I was okay. Yes, I understand that. But unfortunately, Heather blocked the doorway because she replaced all the books with her autobiography. So it's just like a little bit of commotion in there, but I was able to sneak on through. Anyway, there's a lot of talk in there right now and Alexis and Tamra are showing wire transfers or something.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It's totaling $75,000. I was just wondering if you could ask them to send you those screenshots so I could take the bank account and routing numbers and give them to Ryan just, just for investigative purposes. You know, he just loves, he just loves looking into bank numbers. So that would be great. Thank you. Thank you so much for considering that. By the way, it was $65,000. He gave me $30,000 and then he gave me $35,000.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So I don't know why I said that out loud on TV and put that into evidence, but there you go. God, why is nobody coming out here? I mean, Alexis has photographs of canceled checks. Does she think she's on Dateline and she's gonna nail me for something? And you know, I am outwaged and he's saying I owe him money because you know why? Because he's spending too much right now. Ha! Figured it out. Got it. So you have receipts, Alexis. You should start saving yours in case it doesn't work out for you. Ha! Well, yeah, and that's the thing. Like, Alexis, if this guy's gonna do this to her, he's gonna do this to you.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So I hope you're ready, sucker. Also, here's a big question I get from this. Facelifts are $35,000 and are you allowed to start GoFundMe's for that? Is that something I could be like, hey, waddle removal, go fund me. Because $35,000 I feel like sounds like a fun deal. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Will you support me? I will support. We'll both be like, I need to do. Come on. I've been talking about these shows for years. We need to start working on our own. I need to fix my man boobs. I'm fine with that too.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I want the man boobs surgery. Okay. Oh my God, let's get it all. Let's do surgery. Okay. Oh my God. Let's get it all. Let's do it all. We're gonna do this. Let's just come out like my Taylor Armstrong. So, Betch fund me.
Starting point is 00:41:34 So Shannon's like, she's like, you know, he always said I'm a good guy and I don't deserve this. Oh, John, what I could say, what I, the things that I could release, all right? Oh, here's a little something for everyone. He once, get this, get ready everyone. He once bought goldfish crackers and did not tell me. And that's a big no-no on our household
Starting point is 00:41:59 because we don't do artificial cheeses. So I thought that was a very rude thing for him to do. So consider yourself broken, internet. And all joking aside, don't do artificial Jesus. So I thought that was a very rude thing for him to do. So there, consider yourself broken, internet. And all joking aside, I think that she probably does have really terrible things about John. Terrible. I mean, they would get into supposedly like drunken, crazy fights and all this stuff. He was leaving her at restaurants, all this. I'm sure she has terrible behavior that she can report on John. But she's like, I'm not talking about John on TV. He's already suing me.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And he's with like, he's sitting there with Alexis, what do you think he's going to do? They're going to use anything I say, they're going to purposely file lawsuits, you know? So she's like, I'm not saying shit. So Vicki gets up, she's like, I'm going to go fight Shadid. And Tamara sees her in, you know, so Tamara turns on her innocent face and she runs right up to Vicki. And she's like Vicky Fex She grabs her shoulder. She goes I told you for day one. It wasn't you bitch. It wasn't you while I backed out of Trace of Amigas It wasn't you it was her. Vicky was always her Why are we acting like the Trace of Amigas is like
Starting point is 00:42:59 Hamilton Why are we acting like they're the Dixie Jix? Okay, Vicky's like Who broke up Destiny Who broke up? Destiny's child, this is too much. Vicky's like, you know what? That girl needs a hug and needs to be said, you're gonna be okay. And your DUI is not the label for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:43:17 She also would like some salmon and says, steamed vegetables, please. She put in her order before she walked out the room, sorry. Your name, they're the vixx. Your name, they're the ash. She's in her order before she walked out the room, sorry. You're a namelinger, Vex. You're a namelinger. She's like, I'm not a namelinger. I just, you know what? I don't give her the bottle.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I don't give her the bottle. I give her a glass of Belvedere, not a bottle. OK? You know? She's like, but she needs help, Vex. That's not help. What you're doing is not help. If someone's an alcoholic, and especially
Starting point is 00:43:40 if you think they're an alcoholic because they're miserable, and this is a side effect of their misery, you don't publicly and nationally bully them on television. You fucking asshole. Like if you really do believe that she's an alcoholic and this is your reaction to it, you're worse than I even thought. And I thought you were pretty bad already.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Yeah, it's pretty depraved. I mean, like you're, okay, so you're best friends with her, okay, and you're also doing a show with her. So you are just going to ditch the show because you're like, you're best friends with her. Okay. And you're also doing a show with her. So you are just going to ditch the show. Cause you're like, you're an alcoholic. It just doesn't like it. Why are you not sitting down and having a heart to heart with her? And honestly, if you want to be kind of like opportunist about it, why are you not doing that on camera? This season on orange County,
Starting point is 00:44:20 like you're actually kind of messing up what could have been a really good storyline for you. It's honestly seeing it as cynically as possible, you know, but like just actually alienating her and screaming at her and shaming her for it is just like, listen, it's our job to shame people as podcasters, but like you're a friend and you're not supposed to shame your friend over stuff like this. So yeah, it's a, it's a failure on Tamara's part. And Tamara's little monologue here would work if she wasn't like bullying Shannon because I think if she was saying like, Shannon, we should talk about your drinking and Shannon ran out of the room sobbing, and then Tamara delivered this monologue, it would work, but not right after she's bullied her because Tamara's like, I'm not going to enable Shannon
Starting point is 00:44:59 because I'm not that type of friend. I'm not going to be the person that allows you to drink and doesn't hold you accountable. So what? Next time you kill somebody, stop drinking, get help, or I'm done that type of friend. I'm not gonna be the person that allows you to drink and doesn't hold you accountable. So what? Next time you kill somebody, stop drinking, get help, or I'm done with this relationship. Great monologue. If you weren't completely fucking torturing this person
Starting point is 00:45:13 on national TV and using every weak spot against them for years against them for your own shits and giggles, you monstrous human being. So then we cut back to Shannon and Jen, and Jen's like, I think you need to go back in there because everybody's talking right now and you really need to go back in there. And I just want you to say pin number.
Starting point is 00:45:31 You know what, Alexis, if you're gonna prove something to me, I need a pin number. Prove to me that you really have this information. Just get that and then I'll write it down. So I'm lost because my notes that I downloaded, they accidentally didn't finish downloading. And so I'm going back to redownload them.
Starting point is 00:45:48 So you just keep on talking. Oh, here, do you want me to copy them into your notes? No, no, I got them all. I got them all back here. I'm just catching up to where the heck you were. Oh, okay. So then inside the private room, Vicky sits back down at the table and Alexis is like,
Starting point is 00:46:03 I won't deal with liar face anymore or as I call her, lie face. She's poking a bear. First she poked him, but now she's poking me. So liar face better shush it. Actually she was poking him and now you're poking him. So I don't know, if we're gonna go around with poking analogies, you're doing it wrong,
Starting point is 00:46:20 which shouldn't shock anybody. And Alexis is like, you know, I do think Alexis does herself a disservice being so aggressive towards Shannon. Like let them know you as Alexis and not John's defender, you know? Like this is a better way to get to know these girls. I personally, and maybe you all don't agree and that's okay, but maybe taking it down so that maybe you can become better friends with Shannon.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I don't know. You know, I'm normally very much in favor of belittling and ruining Shannon, but this is maybe just too much even for me. Yeah, there's like, I tried to get her thrown into a mental asylum. And I mean, that was fun. You know, you just need to learn to do this stuff with a little bit more fun. I literally threatened to murder her. I literally said, I am going to haunt your nightmares and I will destroy you and your family and your entire bloodline will be over. And this is too much. And then Alexis goes, here's all I know. I want to get to know her and like her for her. Okay. I just want to get to know her. And Emily's like, um, yeah, but you can't say that and bring receipts at the same time,
Starting point is 00:47:26 which is a very fair point. She was like, yes, I can. And Tam was like, yeah, why can't she? It's like, if you're gonna like fucking lie about my guy, like guess what? Happy go lucky, Lexi's gonna bring some receipts. Yeah, you know what? I'm not taking this.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I cannot believe somebody said something to me right now. I'm out of here. I'm out of here, okay? Happy go bye bye, Lexi. Happy go bye bye. Yeah. And she's like, I have more receipts and they'll come also. Okay. I'm leaving you. Love you. Love you. I've got more receipts. Love you. And he's like, well, you can't say you want to be friends with someone and then like work something out and bring the seats at the same time. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And Emily's like, yeah, it's obviously, I mean, look, it's about, everybody's watching. It's so ham handed. Like, I just really wanna be friends with Shannon, which is why I'm, you know, having John Sue her and then coming onto her show and humiliating her every single day at every dinner I come to. It's just because I'm a good person, guys.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Jesus, am I right? Jesus. So then Vicki gets up and she's like, okay, goodbye, Goodbye, everybody. I have to say something. I have to say something. Everybody, all I want you to know is this is toxic to me. This is really toxic. You have to be kind. You know, humans need to do that, especially we're women of faith. Okay? We are women of faith. We are Jesus lovers. I'm a Jesus lover. You're a Jesus lover. I don't really know what that one that looks like, metallic, I mean, is that a metallic dress? I'm not really sure. You look very poor. And you know what? Jesus loved poor people. So whoever you are, I loved you. Thank you. I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Okay. I don't care. Everybody else likes Jesus, right? Everyone here likes Jesus, except for that heathen in the corner. Excuse me, my name is Heather, not heathen. Oh, yes, my bad. Excuse me, my name is Heather, not Heathen. Oh, yes, my bad. I love it. So then Heather's like, I mean, Vicki giving a speech about how discussing this all is, that's Heather. I'm sorry, I meant that's Rich.
Starting point is 00:49:14 So Emily's like- Oh my God, that's like Rich enough to possibly almost live by Drake, who's totally hip and cool and everybody's going to be so impressed with that information when I bring that up on national television soon. So then Emily is impersonating her and everything and then Emily's like, yeah, could you like please show flashbacks now of Vicky being disgusting and like on cue. They just have it ready. They just have this package ready.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Family van, people calling someone a slut, screaming, like every, the whole thing, all of Vicky's greatest hits, screaming at the reunion. Yeah, I don't know that it was correct though. I'm totally team Vicky in the family van part. Yeah, me too. She was right. Yeah, listen, calling customer service is not the same as calling someone a fucking slut, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Like we need separate montages for these two. Yeah. So Emily's like, we should all be good Christians and love one another and support women and buy her insurance. That's Vicky, I love her for it. Have some compassion. That's it, have some compassion. And Tamara's like, I did for 10 years, bitch.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Well, it was never okay. Listen, it is never okay to drink and drive. What I'm saying is that this is icky and this is not the way we treat women. Okay, we have to be there for women. She's in rehab. She's been in rehab program. That's what she is. You don't get to determine that, Tamara. So Emily is like, well, I mean, she should go to rehab.
Starting point is 00:50:40 She's talking to Heather. She goes, I think she should go to rehab and not drink. And Heather goes, yeah, but she does look amazing. She looks so good. She looks really good. I'm very impressed. You know, she looks good enough to live very close to Drake. Not quite good enough. Maybe like a few miles, but close in the zip code.
Starting point is 00:50:57 So then Tamara's like, I'm not even saying drinking and driving. When you're an alcoholic, you shouldn't drink at all. Listen, stop trying to ruin Bravo. Yeah. You know, I'm so sick of this fucking alcoholism thing to every single person. You don't get to decide. The person gets to decide.
Starting point is 00:51:13 If random people get to decide who's an alcoholic, you're gonna ruin this network. And frankly, it's in enough trouble already, okay? So, you know, the truth is that Tamara has gone so hard here, and then she's gonna realize she went so hard. So it'll probably, I'm gonna that Tamra has gone so hard here, and then she's going to realize she went so hard. So it'll probably, I'm going to say in like an episode or two, there's going to be the
Starting point is 00:51:30 scene of Tamra saying, it's just that like, Shannon, it just like triggers me because like I was around a lot of alcoholics growing up and like, it's just like hard for me to see it. And it's like, I'm saying these things because I love it, but I'm traumatized. She's going to totally make it into like, I have trauma around this. And so I lash out, I can't help it. So it's really wasn't even me speaking. I have to blame like my mom's boyfriend in 1987. It'll be one of those stories. Yeah. Well, they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You know, it's just, it's just, and this show really does have this problem a lot where it just gets too mean. It's like fun and fun, but then it just goes too hard. It just goes too hard. It's not as fun watching someone just get ripped apart like that. Because the fact is that everybody watching this show knows that it is very possible
Starting point is 00:52:18 that Shannon has an actual problem with alcoholism. And first of all, when you make it something that we have to talk about, it makes it sad watching Shannon when it should be fun. And also, it just makes the whole show too dark. Like, you know, it doesn't have to, like, devolve into this level of bullying for Christ's sake, you know? Hmm. Yeah. Um, well, Tamra is definitely wrong in this situation, but we'll see how this all shakes out. And until then, everyone have a great weekend and we'll be back on Monday. We've got Crappy Hour coming back and thanks everyone for being here all week long. Love you. We'll talk to you next time. Bye.
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