Watch What Crappens - #2530 RHOC S18E07 Part Two: Crazy, Stupid, Glove

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

This is part 2 of a two-part recap! The Real Housewives of Orange County are still on split low budget vacations. This time, Gina and Emily fight over the sports equivalent of their personalities (pickleball) and Alexis freaks out over something Johnny J tells her over the phone about the evil mastermind Shannon Storms. What will become of us? And what will become of the day old chili? Let’s find out! Watch this recap as a video and get our Secret Lives of Mormon Wives bonus at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watch Your Crappins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So then we cut to Tamara and Jen talking

and they're talking about how much fun they had. And Jen's like, yeah, but you know what? Listen, I'm so happy. I'm so happy where you and I are, Tamara. I mean, it is so nice. I've seen you sitting on a trash can all season and you haven't even hissed at me. You haven't even hissed at me once.

And it reminds me that ultimately possums are cute. They're cute, aren't they? I mean, really, I never thought so. I always thought they were terrifying until I got TikTok. And then I realized they're really cute. But Tamara, you know, you have to be nicer because you're really, really mean to Shannon. She's like, what do you mean I'm mean to Shannon?

Fuck Shannon, stupid bitch. I'm nothing but nice to Shannon. Yeah, but when you attack her, she goes, I feel like I don't feel like I've attacked her. And then we cut to Tamara going, she needs to be in rehab program because she's a fucking alcoholic. And she goes, Ben Tamra starts, I just don't know how. I'm just frustrated with her. What am I supposed to do with her? Ladies and gentlemen, you are now currently watching Tamra Judge do her pivot, her midseason pivot when she's realized she's mischarged the situation, gone too hard, and now she's going to lean into somehow I'm the victim in this and I just

am doing this out of love. So she just, I just want to help. I'm just so frustrated. So Jen goes, yeah, but if this is family and this is someone you love, then maybe you'll hear that conversation lovingly. Laughingly. I don't understand that is that English couldn't hear you my eardrum was erased drawback in there all right listen I would love that but you know what I'm protecting myself right now I protect myself it's very difficult all these people not attacking me all these people not doing anything to me. Well, listen, I know she's not where you think she needs to be.

No, I meant emotionally, but I do think we have the music, the song we have. I'm not familiar, but I do think that she is doing better than she was Tamra based on nothing. Really? I'm just going to say say it because I feel like saying it to you. So, we cut back to Gina and Emily and the pickleball people. So Heather and Shannon are ready to play pickleball. So they come out and they're like, we're fine. So I'm asking those questions.

Okay. We just need to find out nothing nonsensically. We're cementing our place in the cannon. And so now- Why are you holding that cleaver? Oh, I thought this was a pickleball paddle. My mistake. I'll use it anyway.

So Gina and Emily are like, we're going in. And Heather's like, you're not leaving, are you? They're like, we'll be right back, God. We're not coming back. Fucking stupid, Heather. Hate Heather. The only thing that made this day worse is Heather. I don't understand, Gina.

She's coming after me. She's fighting with Emily. She's very poor. Why is she poor? What's the deal with poor people? How is it that she's so poor but not my maid? I don't understand her. How can you expect to treat people

with such terrible customer service and then expect people to pay for your crockpot? I just don't. It's not how it works, Missy. So anyway, Heather's like, I don't know this Gina. This isn't the person that I recognize. She's changed and maybe things at home are worse than she's letting on. I mean, by home, I mean that tiny cauldron she calls a house.

So then we get some more wacky pickleball, this time with Shannon and Heather. Shannon's actually pretty good. And then she- I've logged this out. I don't even remember them playing pickleball. I think my brain literally put on a filter and was like, you cannot take in any more pickleball. They play and Shannon's actually pretty good, at least from what we can see.

But then Heather almost quits immediately because Shannon hits a ball on the other side of the court that Heather's on and Heather goes, that's too far to run. Can you get me the ball? Alfredo? Is there Alfredo here? The most I've ever related to her. So by the way, Heather, you know that tennis is Heather's favorite sport just because it's the only sport with dedicated servants to go and pick up the balls for you and like in a professional level, you know? Oh, look, I love when the maids go running after the balls. So then basically we go to Alexis. So she gets a phone call from Johnny J and she's like, wait a minute, what Johnny J? Johnny J? What? I love you too. I'm obsessed with you too. But what? What? Does

this have to do with what I think it has to do with? I'm literally gonna lose it. The gloves are off. The gloves are off. The gloves are off. Johnny J. I'm literally gonna lose it right now. Johnny J. It's like, I am, I am beside myself Johnny J. And so Tamara's listening and Tamara in general is like, Oh my God. So now the Lickinta ladies are leaving and everyone's packing up and Shannon's pills, a jug of water on the rug and they all are like, it's funny, et cetera. Now back to big bear Alexis, what Shannon is doing right now is being like so like I'm gonna go like freaking I'm gonna lose it

I'm gonna lose it what he's doing to Johnny J like I'm not even sure we can have sex four times today Maybe only three times because it's like what what what she's doing is so it's so like the gloves are so off right now I'm so mad right now. I literally hate this person. She's horrible What it could Shannon possibly be doing? You guys are suing her for $75,000 and you're suing her again. You're coming after someone for the second time with some frivolous bullshit lady. You are horrible. Whatever she's doing is defending herself against you. I don't even know what she's doing, but you acting like such a victim, she's acting like she's crying. She's like, oh my God.

I mean, he could only tell a minute of it, but I could really hear it in Johnny J's voice. He's just so upset. Fuck Johnny J and fuck you too. I'm not falling for this. First of all, Johnny J's voice has no modulation and the only modulation he's ever shown was when he said, fuck Gina.

But other than that, this is what Johnny J says. Hi. Yeah. Like that's it. He doesn't talk. Yeah. Um, he looks like Bizarro worlds Al Gore. Like, you know, you know, I think I've said this before, but you know what? Yeah, I've said this before. Bizarro world out, uh, uh, Simpson, the kid Bart Simpson, where he has kind of like a slit in his eyes. His eyes are like narrowed and evil looking. He's that version of Al Gore.

Well, I'll give him an inconvenient truth, which is that he sucks. That's global warming. Inside your butt crack, you swamp ass motherfucker. So then we go to Alexis still crying, pretending she's crying. And so she's like, I mean, Alexis, I mean, Shannon just gets like so blacked out drunk, like she doesn't even remember what she's done or said. And so the producer goes, what happened to warrant taking the gloves off? And she goes, I'm not at liberty to discuss what happened that pushed Johnny J to the limit. That's a question that everybody's going to have to answer,

that Johnny J is going to have to answer for everybody. Okay. Pete Slauson She's so, she's so fucking ridiculous. She's like, you're going to have to ask Johnny everybody, okay? She's so fucking ridiculous. She's like, you're gonna have to ask Johnny J, I guess if you need him to come back onto TV, you're gonna have to ask him. So I can't answer it, but what I could do is allude to it a lot, but he really needs to be the one you speak to.

It's like, well then don't even bring it up in the first place. She goes, but we have the footage, and we have the fucking footage, okay? And like, we've held onto it this whole time, and like we've held it, but ladies, we've got the footage, and it's coming up at six o'clock news right after the story about a family that burned down in the house. Oh no, they're okay. Okay, good. Well, I'll tell you some footage I've seen.

And that is years of footage of you being an absolute insufferable prick face. Okay. You're an idiot and you're an asshole. And I've never seen anything different on this show. So that's all the footage I need for now. Can't wait to see what you've got though. I'll bet it's a whole bunch of nothing. Yeah. And she's like, you know, there's a lot that I know about Shannon that she probably wouldn't want anyone else to know. And then she's tells Katie cause Katie, it'll ruin her life. And then if we have like a fast forward thing on screen and goes two weeks later

and Shannon crying and be like, crying be like, what video thing? Is it that bad? What's happening? Ow! Why do people keep bringing hot pans over to me? And Alexis is like, she's slide and all I know is that truth prevails. And then because Shannon going he is a monster. He is a monster. Why are the lights flashing? They're not flashing. You're just moving your hands very quickly in front of your face. I can't stop. I can't stop.

So back to present Alexis is so Shannon's crying. And then back to present Alexis is crying. They're both like, it's like dueling crying over Johnny J. She's such a piece of shit. Like I think I'm going to throw up right now. So then we go back and we're in the OC and everybody is, you know, doing their OC things. There's dog poop issues. Okay. Katie and Matt's dog poops. Eddie's dog poops. Everybody's dog is pooping. Guys train your dogs.

It's a big poop montage. It's a shit show. I can't believe they didn't throw one of Emily's dogs pooping everywhere. They love that too. I know. So, uh, genus is a genius, something no one has ever called Gina. So Tamara shows up at Gina's and she's like showing her the construction. Cause you know what? When Travis moved out,

I chose to do the construction because I would just like focus on a fresh start. I'm like well I thought you guys are still in the same place. He just moved out but now it's a fresh start. Okay so Tam is like so what's the room situation now only I will Nicklaus really wanted his own room and Sienna didn't and I'm gonna just talk about really boring construction stuff for the next five minutes. Yeah let's talk about rooms. You know what? Let me show you the walls of my totally normal family. And the walls are scribbled on like psychopaths live there. Like, they're drawn all over the place. Yes. And it's not just like, hey, let's draw on the walls a little because we're going to paint them anyway. It's serious.

They're everywhere and their tiny little serial killer squiggles like it's scary. It's like conspiracy. Like about like, so they just say Johnny J over and over again. Why are their eyes turning black? Johnny J, Johnny J, Shannon did this. Shannon did this. Shannon did this. Wait a second. If you read the backwards, you know what they say? They say, live, laugh, love. Re-attack. Re-attack. Gather backwards. So, um, Gina's like, oh my god, like, all three of my kids are literally sleeping in my bedroom right now. You know,

like this shit I didn't even think about and I can't even fit in there now. So now I'm on the couch and on the couch now. I don't know where this new accent is coming from, but I look it. I look, I look it. Are you boing it? And then we go over to the candy shop. Do do do do. Um, little shout out to 50 cent. So Katie and Emily and their kids and Olivia too, I'd like to mention 50 cent Olivia. So they're over there and the kids are introducing them. It's like, uh,

Katie's kids are meeting Emily's kids and it's nice and everything. And Katie is like, um, I'm really excited that, um, bandin gets to meet Emily's boys. I just, you know what, I love moving to orange County because I feel like the people are so much nicer and they're more open and there's better restaurants. I don't know where I moved from, but I don't know that there's a place on earth that has worse restaurants and crueller people than Orange County, but that's okay. It's not LA and it's not San Diego.

It's like a perfect, happy medium with no liberals. It's actually really lovely here. So, and Emily's like, oh, it's not San Diego. It's like a perfect, happy medium with no liberals. It's actually really lovely here. So, and Emily's like, Oh, it's your drop. So they're talking about each other's trips. And Katie's like, we laugh so my stomach is literally hurting from laughing. Wow. What a fun time we had. But you know, we had so much fun. Can we roll that flashback of Alexis singing Kumbaya? And that's like Alexis going, Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya, my Lord.

They're trying really hard to laugh. And then we cut back and Emily's like, well, we had fun too, except for my life being ruined by Gina. I'm a fucking poor Gina. So she's talking about how she had it out with Gina, but they're okay now. And Katie is like, well, I'm really starting to figure out that I thought Gina was a girl's girl for me, but it turns out she's a girl's girl for Heather and not for me. So I'm going to call him all again on that one. And Katie is like, you know, um, so I'm sorry. So Juno's like, so by the way,

Tamara, how was big? And Tamara's like, oh my God, Alexis is a lot like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. I love that Tamara hates Alexis. Watching her try to pretend that she's friends with Alexis just to use as a weapon against Shannon is so funny because it hurts her. It hurts her to be nice to this girl. Yeah. She can't stand it. Especially, I mean, this is, I'm sure she has the same resentment towards Alexis as Shannon does about that lawsuit, but she knows that she has to be friends with Alexis.

Well, especially now because now that she's doing it again to Shannon, it seems pretty clear that it was Alexis the whole time, you know what I mean? Not to take any agency away from Jim, but she was at least a part of it. Whereas before she had some deniability, like, oh, that was Jim's thing, that had nothing to do with me. Whereas now it's like, oh, really? It just happened to happen two times when you're around? Jim Right. So, uh, Tim's like, yes, you know what? She's very defensive. And you know, like, Gina's like, well, is she like that when Shannon's not, isn't there? She goes, you know what? For the most part, she's not. Yeah. Basically Shannon's fault when Shannon's there, like, is terrible.

When Shannon's not there, like, is, is really great and wonderful. Well, I know this is a sensitive topic for you, but like when we went away to La Quinta, you know, Shannon was able to be vulnerable to you because we put our walls down, and we're not like angry at her. Did she drink? Did she drink? Yeah, because she likes to drink,

and she's like for me, even for you, like, look at you, Tina, you have a drinking problem, right? It's not like you weren't alcoholic, and she's like, yeah, I did. I had a real fucking problem with alcohol. Okay. It controlled me more than I had control over it, but I'm not an alcoholic.

You know what? I did not stop drinking after I got my DUI because I felt like a loser and I was ready to take responsibility for the mistake that I made. But like I wasn't ready to admit that I had a problem with alcohol. Okay. Okay. Yeah, how about my point? I can't think the plan is that you it's a Shannon's an alcoholic So could you say did you have a problem with Shannon being an alcoholic? Can we just like the smooth middle man? You know what? That's a woman in pain and like she really needs to have a friend her real friends and like you're like fucking best friend And like you guys need to like get back together again because otherwise Emily's gonna turn into you

And I really don't want that um I love that Tamra's whole thing is like okay but here's the difference because there's some people with drinking problems and Then this does alcoholics and then there's people who are just like assholes when they're drunk. I was like okay I like that you get to gatekeep who's an alcoholic and who's not. Because I guarantee to pretty much everybody who doesn't drink, you look like one. You know what I mean? Yeah. So yeah, so now Tam is like, well, I want to have a conversation with her. And like, I feel like tough love is the best thing for her right now, because she

feels like, okay, I got Jean on my side, I got Heather on my side, and then she's gonna go right back to her old ways. I'm like, well, even if she does, that's on her and there's nothing that you have to that you can do about it. Yeah. So then we cut back to the other combo and Katie's like, you know, Alexis is threatening to release stuff. And I was like, well, what do you have to release? Well, apparently, um, Shannon did something and Johnny J said all the gloves are off and they're going to release videos of Shannon. And Emily's like, Shannon, what does Shannon do? Well, apparently there's ring footage cameras of her almost running over his daughter. over his daughter. That's it. Please release it. Okay, here's my first question. What was his daughter doing in front or in back of the car? Was this on a freeway? Was it a crosswalk?

No, that girl was blocking the car. Here's my prejudgment. Daughter's fault. Was this a five year old? No, this is an adult daughter. Get the fuck out of the get the fuck out of the way. How about that? I paid for your room to London. Okay. And if you didn't say thank you. I tried to run your ass over to you. There's footage. Apparently, there's footage of Shannon actually giving John's car to a total stranger. It's like, that was the ballet at the London. That's how it goes. Team Shannon. Don't care. She always ran over the daughter.

What is the daughter an infant? Get the fuck out of here. How about the daughter do some, like, look, Shannon, if Shannon's drunk behind the wheel, how about the daughter try to like, you know, get Shannon out? Like, I'm just going to blip. I will not allow Shannon to be the one who's wrong here. I will warp my logic and be like, it was the daughter's fault for not, for not preventing Shannon from getting behind the wheel of the car. Yeah. Do you think that's what it is? Like she was trying to stop Shannon. So she got in front of the car and still was trying to go and almost ran her

over. Well, then you know what? That actually sounds like it would be. Yeah, it sounds like it would be too. Don't stand in front of a moving vehicle. Okay. I'm not saying that Shannon should drive drunk. I'm just saying, if someone's drunk and they have their foot on the gas of something, don't stand in back of it. You know what I mean? Move. How about John? How about John, you get your daughter out of that situation. Yeah. And how about your dad stopped being wasted and fighting with Shannon all the

time too, because he's contributing to this. And the fact that she had to leave his house means that he never came to her house. So that means she's the one who has to do all the driving. This could have just as easily been him. Listen, I'm not going to stand up for Shannon because you people are literally horrible to her all season long and nobody deserves that. I don't care what she did. You guys are dicks.

And the fact that you're making me stand up for someone who did something as stupid as Shannon did shows how shitty you guys are being this season. Exactly. Thank you. Commercials, here comes one right now. She struck him with her motor vehicle. She had been under the influence that she left him there. In January, 2022, local woman Karen Reed was

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Ryan definitely enjoys a spa day. He'll do petties, but you know, like my marriage was opposite than that. Like trying to get Will to spend his time with me, it was really hard. It was really hard. I mean, wow. But you know, now I have this relationship with Ryan and he's truly my best friend, you know? Oh gosh, look at him. He looks so good. Get his fingernails, get his nails. He's not such a won't. Will was a won't. Let's just face it. Will was a won't. I'm sorry, Will. I'm sorry. I feel like I'm almost making a Sondheim lyric. So Jen is like, I feel like I'm like all over the place. Like so much has happened in 24 hours.

You know, we went out to a bar and we see flashbacks to the bar and just big more big bear flashbacks. And she's like, they want that, you know, they want me to start this, they started having this only fans conversation with me. And he's like, wait, wait, wait, what? And she's like, well, they said I should do only fans. He's like, mm, yeah, that's not happening. I know you're probably telling me with the tone that you're joking, but I also know you well enough that you might actually start one. So I'm going to say no, no OnlyFans.

I'm putting my foot down. And she was like, your foot? And he goes, yeah, because like, I mean, my foot subscription is really making a killing, right? And she rolls her eyes, but she goes, actually, probably should check to see if he has a foot OnlyFans. I mean, everyone else is concerned about Ryan makes his money, right? So I mean, how does is concerned about Ryan makes his money, right? So, well, I mean,

how does he make his money? And so, um, so, and you believe, I believe everything she's saying. Like she literally does not know and is never going to ask. So they're just like making patter and Jen's talking about how Tamara pulled up Will's Instagram and she doesn't like seeing that stuff. But then all of a sudden her phone rings and it's her son Dominic. And he's called to say that basically what we infer on his end is that he wants to TP someone's house in the daylight. Cause we hear Jen say something like, no, you can't TP in the daylight.

But also this guy is calling her to bring the TP. He's like, where is it? You're supposed to bring this to be. She's like, you can't do that in the daylight. You're buying your son a weapon to go vandalize somebody else's home. What the fuck is going on over there? And then we don't know what he, we don't know the specific ass we infer the, we infer the ass, which is like, can I go TP someone's home? And she goes, well, I, I can't give you an answer on that. I'm like, Jen, what

your children, at least two of your children are going to be criminals, at least, at least just be like, you cannot co-sign, you cannot co-sign your children TP someone's house. The fact that they think they can do it in the daytime is wild. So, they're just, they're not only going to be criminals, they're going to be bad criminals, you know? And so, then Ryan is saying, listen, you don't have to tell your kids yes for everything, you know? And she's like, he says, whenever you ask them what they want for breakfast,

they all five give you a different order and you make every single order. And she's like, I know, but you know, I really like it. I really like it. I really just, I'm a short order cook. What can I tell you? I just want to work on Below Deck someday. So then she says that the way she is with her kids, she goes, no, I coddle too much. I'm going through my divorce. It just got worse because I have so much guilt for changing their lives. But now I look like it. Now I feel like I've sort of taught them nothing. And so we see a flashback of her talking to Dawson and her 17 year old about how she wants to create boundaries for him. Cause he's like, man, like suddenly I have a curfew. I never had a curfew. And she's like, well, I do think I need to draw the

line with Dawson, but it's really hard to, because he's only 17. So I'm just going to try to love him through it. And that's all I can do. It's like, congrats. You know what? Enjoy loving your way through paying his bail. CB Yeah, this is not going to work out great. So then we go to a big meeting with Tamara and Shannon, and we've seen this a million times, right? Like literally the same scene over and over every season. So Jen is giving Tamara the pep talk and Tamara's like, well, all the girls are saying that Shannon's doing better. That's all I want for all I care about is for Shannon to be doing okay. Which we know is bullshit. And the producers are like, okay, you've gone a little too far.

You actually have to talk to Shannon. Okay, go do it. I'm just already bracing for the typical, my delivery sucks. All I want is the best for you, but my delivery sucks. I just figured that was what was coming to us. And I bet it would have come had we not ended the episode. So Shannon's now calling Heather. And Heather's like, oh, how are you?

Excuse me, I just got a new delivery of pineapples. Gonna take out some rage. Oh, well, I'm on my way to meet Tamara. Oh, you're on your way right now? Looking like that. Looks like you're going to a board meeting for rubber boats. Why are you wearing oven mitts? Well, I just can't stop grabbing burning things. So I've got some pretty big burns on my hands.

Very difficult to drive. I hope I don't get pulled over again. Not drunk driving my hands just hurt. Fun Shannon. Why are you wearing some sort of nautical blazer to this meeting? Are you going on one of your single story yachts again? She really is having kind of an orphan Annie of a season. She had like another orphan Annie sailor kind of outfit and now she was doing the orphan Annie finally gets to go to the movies or something with Orbex outfit.

She's really leaning into the orphan Annie thing this season and I like it. I love that show. And Heather's like, this is exhausting because it feels like we've done this so many times before. How many times do we have to do this with Tamara and Shannon? And we know that these two have had so many fights and so many reconciliations because the producers don't even bother to do a montage of them fighting and making up and fighting and making up. They just let it hang in the air. Like, yep, we don't even have to provide the evidence. We all know it's true. Yeah. I mentioned a few episodes ago, I turned on Orange County to watch it and it turned out to be an episode from last season, but it was

Shannon and Tamar getting ready to have a one-on-one where they were fighting and they were going to try and make up and they were calling Heather and Heather was packing her kids for school and I thought it was this season. I mean, I just kept watching it. I was like, oh, well, you know, I guess, you know, patterns do repeat themselves, but it was actually another season. It took me 20 minutes to even notice I was in the wrong season. It's wild. So, Tam was like, all right, you know what? I'm going to go in and I'm not going to yell. I I'm gonna leave with my, what is it, my butthole. What do I leave, my butthole? It's my bowel.

I'm leaving with my butthole. Let's leave it. So then Tamra's like, okay, so they go to the restaurant and Shanna's trying to be very serious and the waiter comes over. I like, this is so funny from Shelby, our note taker. It says, the waiter asks if they want water and Shannon looks startled as if she didn't expect him to speak to her.

Oh, wow. Interesting. Oh, hello, hello. Water, I don't know if I can trust you. I don't really know. Oh, a waiter. Oh, are we in a restaurant? Oh, that is, that is, okay. Thank you. Oh, Alex. Let my seat, let my seat go. Oh, yeah, still the waiter. Oh, okay.

Well, you know, if Tamara were a real friend, she would have ordered the water for me, but I guess we see where we stand. So Tamara goes, so I know this is probably difficult for you. And like, I just want to like, just start off and just get it right out there that I was really hoping that you'd be the one to reach out to me. To me.

Oh, oh, oh, wow. Wow. Hold on. Let me make a W with my lips and let it just hang there for a moment. Oh, wow. Let me lean forward a little bit. Just gonna lean forward a little bit with a, you think I'm gonna say, am I gonna say who?

What? When? When? After the way that you spoke to me at that dinner, you have done nothing but defame me. Just defame you. I didn't say things that aren't true. So it's not defame nothing.

Ha ha ha. You're still famous. I didn't defame you. Oh, you did. You definitely did. No,. You're still famous, I didn't defame you. Oh, you did, you definitely did. No, I didn't, no, I didn't defame you. Oh, you did, you actually defamed, you took the fame. No, no, no, no, no. You took it away.

You gave people, you told people. Who, what, ha, who, ha, who, ha, I, I, who, ha, you don't even know. You don't even know. Oh, it's has another monkey. Who, ha, who, ha. Who, ha, monkey. Oh, ah, oh, ah. Oh, ah, oh, ah, oh. Bueller is very concerned. Bueller has now stood up and been like, what?

Because now Tamra is imitating Shannon. And by the way, like not even pretending that she's here for peace. The fact that you drug Shannon down here and made her breath a lies into her car for this non apology bullshit is so Tamra. Yes. And then she starts off saying, you were supposed to reach out to me first. I'm in here. I'm in Moscow.

So after Tamra yells at her and says, you're an alcoholic, you should be in rehab, you're like wasted, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she's like, why don't you reach out to me? I was the one that was hurt in that situation. So Shannon comes in armed with hairdresser advice and stays calm, right? So Shatamra's like, oh yeah, I didn't do nothing to you. She goes, okay, so should I tell you to calm down now?

Because look how calm I am, look how calm I am. Look, I'm talking like Katie, introducing a ball, being about to be hit by an old white person in dockers. Wow. I know things about golf now. Shit, Tamara, you have been defaming me for eight weeks. I'm defaming you how? You keep saying you're drunk, you need to be sober.

You know nothing about me. Oh, excuse me, I will have a tequila on the rocks. Thank you so much. And since you know nothing about me, well, I do, I know everything about you. I know how you move, I know nothing about me. Well, I do. I know everything about you. I know how you move. I know what makes you tick. I know how many allergens to throw in the air and make you cough.

Well, how dare you? I'm focusing on being healthy. She goes, oh, so you don't drink anymore? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, I'm going to do with my lips. Whoa, whoa, whoa, gotcha. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I mean, I pretty much have two drinks, give or take three. And I don't think I've gone over two. I'm just trying to think. Let's see, one plus six, I think is two. And I'm pretty sure two, two, yeah, only two.

You don't have to explain yourself to Tamara. I don't like this. I have not gone over two. Who cares? Who cares if you're a fucking wasted every day? Okay, I certainly don't. Just don't like this. I have not gone over to. Who cares? Who cares if you're fucking wasted every day? Okay? I certainly don't. Just don't drive. Okay? So, Tamara's like, sorry, you don't have a drinking problem? She goes, well, I'm very aware of it. She goes, oh, aware of what? Do you have a drinking problem? No, I'm very aware that I've used

alcohol to get past my problem. Drinking? No, my problem of being very upset and traumatized by alcohol, by feelings that have alcohol from three years ago. SISTER, SHUT UP! You're an alcoholic! You're bloody dirty alcoholic, son! Tamra Judge, I guess I use it excessively

in certain dark periods. One of which, one of those specific dark periods may have started in 2003 to present, but that's the only time I have ever, ever excessively used alcohol. I mean, I did put it in the bathtub and lie down on it, but that's not the same thing. I'm just trying to let it soak through my pores.

A few dark periods. You know, there was a total eclipse of the sun, which was a very dark period, and I did maybe have an extra cocktail during that moment, but you know. Ah, don't you remember the blackout, the rolling blackouts? Every time it blacked out, I would drink a bottle of vodka. It just made it seem lighter in the room. My pupils would get bigger. That's so funny. What's the point of having a blackout if you don't blackout, too? drink a bottle of vodka. I just made it seem lighter in the room. My pupils would get bigger. What's the point of having a blackout if you don't black out too? The news said to black out.

Just following the Amber alert. So Tamra's like, but you don't feel like sneaking alcohol is an issue, bitch. And she goes, Oh, I, I, I did that one night, Tamara. And then Tamara tells us, we see a flashback of Tamara telling Emily and Jen that Shannon whispered to a photographer or something like that to sneak some booze into her Diet Coke. Yeah. That's not a great, that's not great. Not great. Um, well yeah, but she's sneaking booze in there cause she wants to drink it. She doesn't want you to judge her for it. I's not great. Not great. Well, yeah, but she's sneaking booze in there because she wants a drink and she doesn't

want you to judge her for it. I don't know. I just feel like she shouldn't have to be explaining herself to Tamra, period. You know? Right. I would agree. So Shannon is like, Oh my God, Shannon, come on. And because Shannon says, well, I've seen you in compromising situations. So she goes, Oh, come on. She's like, don't focus on me. You know what, have I driven my car into a house? Have I driven a car? No, but you've driven a ATV so recklessly

that you almost murdered four cast members, as I recall. Does that count for anything? Is it just okay when you do it without a roof on the car and you're out in a place where there's no cops patrolling? Okay, okay. I need to walk away for a second. Sorry, I'll do it.

I need to... Can you get my purse? Oh, God. Okay, I'm going to walk over to this area. So Tamara's just sitting there at the table like, is she coming back? And the producer's like, I don't know. So Shannon is in the bathroom and she's like, she has done nothing, nothing but hurt me

and spread lies about me that are fucking character damaging. And Tamara's just like, oh God, makes you guys stop balling. Cause you know, Shannon walks off 10 times a season. So it's just like, oh God, here we go. Here's another break, you know. I know what I did and I don't need fucking Tamra, judge, to be the person that decides my punishment. I don't need her to be the, hold on, the judge, jury and, ah, I feel like comedy's in threes. Where's the, is there another word? Is there another word that,

ah, can't do it? Someone give me a drink. I'm not doing well. So, she comes back to the table and she's like, I'm apologizing for getting it. Someone give me a drink. I'm not doing well. So she comes back to the table and she's like, I'm apologizing for getting it. I have to say when she comes back to the table, she's like, okay, I'm going to walk back to the table. So she strides through the restaurant and she walks right to a palm frond. And as she goes to the palm frond, the music goes, I rewound it three times. That was funny when she walks right into that tree. She's like, boom, boom. I'm going to ignore that. That did not happen. Surely they will cut that. That's a, that is a health hazard. I don't know what sort of allergens have been transferred

to my face for that palm frond, but I will be speaking to the manager afterwards. So she comes back and she's like, okay, well, I apologize for getting up, but that is what I'm learning. If I'm upset, I've just got to go take a breathalyzer. I mean, did I say that? Can we do this again? Can we start this again? Move that tree. I'm going to do it again from the top.

It's like I'm digging myself out of a hole and like all I can see are palm fronds. Oh, I actually think I have a palm frond on my face. on one second okay sorry I just got attached to my to my makeup okay I feel like you are one of the people that's just trying to push me back there and let me tell you what I'm doing right now focusing on myself. You said that's his f**k it up dad. Well I've kept a very small circle of people around me, very, very small and a cylindrical. And actually you can pour liquid in there

and then drink out of it. Stop talking about drinks, Shannon. Okay, well, I basically have a small donut of people and I realize- God, I wish you could drink the donuts. Is there donut vodka? Is that a thing? Listen, I have a small group of people, maybe four people, three people actually. And I

realized that two of them are Emily and Gina. And I realized, I can't go on like this. The only other person I can talk to, I've only got two people I can really trust, Tito and Mr. Belvedere. It's been a very, very hard time, camera. Very difficult. Talk about streaks on the china. They never really did matter before. But now I just all It's been a very, very hard time, Tamara. Very difficult. Talk about streaks on the China. They never really did matter before, but now I just all see them everywhere. But you know, I just have a few people in my life,

but I've never ever, ever, ever had this level of support. I'm so support. I feel so supported. Just oh, Vinny, it's been the 10 years that I was there for you, it's been, talked to you all the time about every issue. I wasn't there for you. Timer up. You did do that. But then you constantly use anything that she's told you against her and tried to villainize

her. You do it once a year. I mean, why are you acting like such a nun? It's hilarious. I came here to try to make things better. You stupid slutty alcoholic. And all you've been doing is being defensive you know you're defensive like any typical wine I would be and yelling at me this entire time cuz you have no impulse control

cuz you're sad and pathetic and every man that you've ever loved leaves you and sees you okay and I'm not yelling at you I'm just trying to help you no really you've been screaming at me oh oh for what for once Tamra judge is calm oh now you're calm. For once, you're calm. Do you know how off the rails you were at that dinner? Hold on. Let me point my finger and make a circle. Look at this very straightened finger. Do you know how off the rails you were the other night at Gina's dinner? And then you start backing up Alexis Bellino making allegations. It's like, oh, stick to your lane, Tamra, stick to your lane.

Well, that's more than you were able to do that night. You know what? I resent- Alright, well, maybe I shouldn't have brought up lanes. Okay, well, okay. Let's just, you know, just ease up on the gas there a little bit, Tamra. Okay, I mean- Listen, you better learn to walk the straight and narrow, Tam- Oh, God! Okay, Tamra, say the alphabet backwards. I just can't.

Can we start over? Wait, wait, wait, wait a second. Wait, back up on Alexis. Is this about the money that you owe John? Tamra actually, she doesn't know about this as if Alexis was not talking about it all weekend in Big Bear. She goes, I don't owe him money. I never signed any promissory note that I owe him any money and I paid for everything the first two years of our relationship.

I mean that's a lot of salmon and a lot of cream cheese. So now that I have to do like what I have to do and spend my time doing is going through and relieving how stupid I was to stay with that man. It's a syrenia. It's a syrenia, bet. It's a syrenia. Do you hear her? Yes, she is. She is. He's syrenia. Oh. And my lawyer made a settlement offer today. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya.

He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya.

He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya.

He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya. He's still in ya Sean, I'm so sorry. He said he won't accept one penny under $75,000. And he said that if you don't come up with a payment plan to pay me on $75,000, they're filing on Friday. So I'm not making monthly payments to John Janssen. That's not going to happen. And it's not going to go through three years of hell again.

No, I don't blame you. I don't blame you. Look at me. It's just being a good friend. Look at me. I'm just going to move my lips up and down. I don't blame ya. I don't blame ya. Look at me. Just being a good friend. Look at me. I'm just gonna move my lips up and down. I blame ya.

Actually, I do kinda blame you. I'm telling everyone that I blame you. But I'm not gonna blame you right now. Well, I will not be in seventy-five days. Dearie. Dearie. It's a mess. It's a mess.

I mean, it's like you behind the wheel on a Friday night. Alright. Just messy. It's like the side of a house in Newport's like you behind the wheel on a Friday night. All right. Just messy. It's like the side of a house in Newport Beach after you've been driving on the roads. It's a mess. So the she camera's like well in 2018 Jim Berlino and Shannon he sued us. He sued me and Shannon for defamation. It was emotional hell And me and Shannon we triedamation. It was emotional hell. And me and Shannon, we trauma bonded over not knowing. So, what, are we gonna have money in a bank? Who's gonna fix the leak in Big Bear? Who's gonna fix it?

And you know, I'm friends with Alexis, but personally, I couldn't imagine going through this again. I mean, I really feel for Shannon. I really, really feel for her. And by feel, I mean, this is is fucking hilarious it's like having a poncho inside my soul feels so good and that's why I'm gonna expose you to Alexis every time I get a chance to so Tamra goes listen I'm having a party on Wednesday I would like for you and Vicky to come a chance like really? Tamra, I've never felt so emotionally supported. Tamra! Okay, I wanna give you a hug. I'll ask her.

Oh my God, you sucker! Are you fucking kidding me? Ask yourself why in the world Tamra is suddenly, calmly smiling and saying as she feels for you and then inviting you to a group event on camera. What do you think is gonna happen at this event exactly, ma'am? I really do love you, Sean, and I do. I love you. I love you. Oh my God, thank you for getting me out of Gina and Emily jail. It's a rough place being stuck with them, but it's great being back with you. Yeah. Oh God, it's been so difficult being around poor people who don't matter. Oh, thank God.

Back together again. Me and old Tam, we're those trace and diggers. Yeah, I love you so much. I just can't wait for you to come. No one's going to attack you at all. The threat in the back better you, and nothing to show for the ears of your ring cam. Nobody's going to do nothing like that in my body.

Don't you worry about it. I apologize for hurting you, and I never want to hurt anybody, Tamara. I never want her- OW! Did you just bring over a Dutch baby for me to touch, Tamara? And that brings us to the end. So, Shannon, what a sucker. And she falls for it every single- Shannon, no one has ever hurt me more than you. No one has ever hurt me. I'm wrecked. I will never be this. Party, I can come. Oh, thank you.

I feel so supported. All right, thank you. Thank you for making a very simple gesture that does not fix any of the vile, cruel things. Literally hilarious. Wow. What an episode. Amazing. What an episode.

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