Watch What Crappens - #2598 RHONY S15E04: To Have and Pavlova Not

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

This week on The Real Housewives of New York, we get to witness the women cook dinner in what feels like real time.  It culminates with a much-hyped pavlova, which seems to mend all wounds. But like so many meringues, things crumble to pieces the next day between Brynn and Ubah.  To watch this and all our recaps on video and listen to all of our bonus episodes, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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who lives were in danger. Follow Kill List wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Kill List and more exhibit-see true crumb shows like morbid, early and ad free right now by joining Wandery Plus. Hello, welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelkert and joining me today is the wonderful, the hilarious, the probably a better Pavlova maker than Jenna Lyons. I'm going to say it right now. Mr. Ronnie Karam, how are you?

Ronnie Karam Hi there. How are you doing? Trey Locker I'm great. I am so excited to talk about this Pavlova-centric episode of Real Housewives of New York today with you. Anything going on in your life today, Ronnie, that you want to share? Ronnie Karam I think if I had to say who I was the biggest fan of walking out of this episode, it would be that Pavlova. Yes, the Pavlova did seem to have the most interesting arc. I don't mean to be offensive, but please stop having angry Pavlova energy. And then all the other brides got really mad at me. I was kind of like Pavlova.

It's been controversial over here. I was like, like Pavlova. Controversial over here. I was like, Pavlova, if you're gonna be on camera, you gotta give it back a little bit. Come on, you're never gonna last long, Pavlova. What is a Pavlova? It looks, I looked it up right now. It's like a meringue. Yeah, it looks like a meringue.

Is that what it is? I thought it was bread. Oh my God, this is a big meringue? It's like a giant meringue that's like dried. It's like a dried meringue, and then you put like fruit in the middle and stuff. I don't, I've actually never had one because it's always filled with the things that I hate, like berries fruit for people who are new to the podcast. You may not know this about me, but my strange thing is that I detest blueberries, strawberries and raspberries. Although I've made some

recent inroads with strawberries, so that's going in a good direction. But to me, if I see a pile of berries that I am like, I am actually disgusted by it, I can't even like the scent. It's really awful to me. So I, the pavlova is a no-go. It's no-go. Yeah, well, it looks good. One time I thought I want to make a really big meringue, because that's the best part of a pie. And then I thought they should make a whole pie that's just a meringue, but they already did. It's called the Pavlova. So guess what? That trademark. It's no wonder that trademark didn't come through. And I not made time for that. Okay, fast forward to three weeks from now. Well, Ben, I'm really upset. All I've been doing is I've been making Pavlovas ever since that episode.

But trying to perfect my own Pavlova. Probably, it's how I got into macaron. We were watching somebody make them on this show and I did it for three months until I made them perfect. And I think I've made them what since. So great art form. Okay, that's not the point guys. The point is welcome to Real Housewives of New York City

season 15 episode four. We are doing this on video, like we do all of our episodes. That's over on Patreon. Patreon is super fun, go do it. It's also where we do bonus episodes. Our first couple episodes of Beledick Salinger over there and the other ones are on the main feed from now on. So go check out the first two over there

and let's get to the recap, Ben. Or did you wanna say something before we get into it? I really have to get into this. There's so much going on in this episode. I would like to say something. Potato chips. Okay, moving forward. Oh, delicious. I made potato chips. Okay. All right. So we are. Yes. Cackling hag hard cackling sag harbor. I said in comments, I thought was so fucking funny. Cackling cackling Sag Harbor. I've seen it in comments. I thought it was so fucking funny. Cackling, cackling Hag Harbor. Well, we can mention this, being in Sag Harbor, one of the Sag Harbor residents, Andy Cohen, if you have not seen the video of him high as a kite at whatever the Grateful Dead rebirth,

I forget what their new name is, with John, not John Mayer. If you haven't seen that video of him in tie-, losing his mind, please go find it on the internet because it's really going to make your day. I just want to say that right now. It is. Wow. You know, that whole saying dance like nobody's watching is that. Yeah. And I will never be comfortable doing that. It's kind of like when you start taking improv class, they make you feel as stupid as possible just so you can get used to feeling stupid. And that is what that dance looked like. It was like, just dance, just throw your arms out. Don't worry about any kind of rhythm. No one's around you. Have no spatial awareness. Just flop all over the place and some thigh dye. Yes. I mean, in some ways it was just, it was actually wonderful. It was just like, he was having pure joy,

just like, I don't care. But what's funny, Dead in Company is the band. And what's funny is that there was a spectator at this concert who is like far away and like zooms in with her camera on Andy Cohen, just dancing and singing along like crazy, just flopping everywhere. The only reason why they knew Andy Cohen was over there

is that everyone is dressed, I would say normally, normally in terms of like walking around on the street and Andy Cohen is head to toe in tie dye. He's just like, he's like that guy at the concert. He is like, I understand as a dead end company concert, you're going to wear tie dye. Open mouth like, yeah. But it is like tie dye everywhere. He is like the guy who walks up to you at a farmer's market and gets you to sign a petition. Looks like he was slowly like waving away birds that were trying to attack happily like yeah.

That like housewives were trying to sell on Instagram, they were all influencing for punch balls that you tied to your arm. You know, when you're punching at them, like randomly. That's how he dances. And you know, you're right. There is something just pure about watching somebody be so happy.

It's gross, honestly, but it is pure. So go watch it. It's strange on a network that just showcases misery and families and relationships falling apart, but you know, yeah, good for him. So did you say John Mayer is in the Grateful Dead now? No. Yeah, John, they are now dead in company and he, yeah, he's like a, he's like a guitarist and stuff in it. Did something happen with his own career? What happened to John Mayer? Did he get sick of those three chords? Or?

Ah, you're a potter, so wonder. I think that, I think actually in some ways, yes. I think that, well, you know, he's a guitarist and it's probably like cool to be part of the Grateful Dead. And I think he can't sing anymore. I think he had some issue with his voice. Really? What happened to him?

I don't know. You know what, I don't wanna go on records saying lies about John Mayer. All I know is that he wound up dead in company and he's just there. Yeah, I don't know what else to say. He's there with dead in company. I feel like I'm covering up something.

He had surgery on his vocal cords. Oh wow. Yeah. Vocal'm not. Oh wow. Yeah. Vocal cord surgery. Oh, that sucks. Sorry John Mayer. Wow. It's wild. All right. Well, guess he won't be belting out those big notes anymore that he was so famous for. Okay. So let's. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

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I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. needs to drink a lot of water because she's dehydrated because she's still nursing. Yes. And Raquel's like, are you pumping and dumping? And she's like, no, I'm freezing it all. And they're like, oh, God, there's nothing worse than just, God, not emptying, just walking around full of milk. I mean, it's just terrible.

I mean, I know the feeling really. Yeah. And Rebecca's like, yeah, one time Gavin and I went to a club in Paris and I felt like the feeling that I was like, you know, and you're going to have to like, I'm like, Gavin, you're going to have to like sort me out and like, we're going to go to the bathroom right now and you need to relieve me. Um, I, this is, I feel like this is becoming a trend with Rebecca is that she like announces some story about bodily fluids. Like last week it was like, yeah, I put in a diva cup and it fell out. It looked like a murder scene.

This week it's like, I had so much milk. I had to have my husband suckle at my teeth. Yeah, I thought she was, I thought she meant like it was going to grab her boob and you know, like twist and you know, like, like, like you're cleaning out a mop, you know, but no, he like literally went down there and sucked on her boob and then said, I was like, did he spit? And he did spit, which I don't know, drink it.

Is it gross? Like it's not gross, it's just milk. It's mother's milk. Why would you drink from a damn cow who's had God knows what injections? Like that thing literally lives in poop, but you won't drink your wife's boob milk? Come on, it's, drink it. That milk. Come on. It's drink it.

I love you shaming your husband about this. Yeah. I mean, he didn't go all the way. He's like, I'll help you, but it's gross. It's not gross. It's your wife's milk. I mean, your son's going to be drinking it till he's 27 years old. According to her, she never stops. She never stops the breastfeeding. She's into breastfeeding until those kids are caught. She won't even have to pay for food at college because she'll still be there. She's like, Hey, honey, I'm here for lunch. So the van arrives at a tennis club.

And God, you know, nothing gets us more exciting, excited than watching people on Bravo try to play tennis because isn't it so funny and wacky and hilarious to watch, watch women not being able to hit a ball. God, God, it's so great. Well, you know, I think they're trying to recreate that early Roni magic on the tennis court because there were always really good tennis court scenes. But you know, those, those were different people. This is Aaron.

You know what I mean? So we roll up and Aaron's like, guys, I want to tennis camp here. We know Aaron. We already know. We didn't, we didn't even know, but we knew, we knew this is where you went to tennis camp. Okay. We know. It's the widest place I've ever seen in my life. We know Aaron. Okay. You, you got, you got cater in my life. We know Aaron, okay. You got catered by provisions. You did Getillian afterwards at the Hampton Bay Country Club, whatever

the fuck. You had your prom at Citronella or whatever, then the Citarella, whatever name that store is. So Brynn is like, this is the camp that you went to in like the Hamptons. It's like, yeah, she just said so. So now it's like, yay, time to play tennis. So they go in and there's an instructor named Tino and they're all like, you know, he's cute. So they're all like, woo. I did sorely miss our Ramona singer moment of like, hi, how are you tennis instructor?

And then Luan be like, hello, I like to play tennis. Do you like to play tennis as well? Like, come on, come on New York ladies. Like you gotta like do some clunky flirting with your tennis professionals. They tried it. Aaron was like, do you like my hair? I just got it cut to match my mom's length. And it was almost so many inches, but like I stopped it. Have you ever loved someone who sold Bitcoin behind your back? He's so handsome, right guys? And everyone goes, hey, hey, girls, ask Tina what rack she should use. It's like, wow, good one. And friends like Winner gets to kiss the Genesis chapter. What are we going to do? Hit the balls.

You sure that won't hurt? Jen is like, I'm going to take a seat because it's a spectator sport and everyone needs a spectator. Plus this is to me, it reminds me of horizontal mountain climbing. It's just very, very stressful. Yeah. So they suck at tennis basically. And Jess was like, I'm British. I play cricket. Oh, you know you suck at tennis, basically. And Jessel's like, I'm British, I play cricket.

Oh, you know you suck at cricket too. Who are you kidding? Does anyone out there believe for two seconds that Jessel can play cricket? I'm surprised Jessel wasn't holding the racket by the round side and trying to stick it with the handle. So yeah.

How do you flush this? Oh, good, you got me. I call these things, pavit bats. Girl. Yeah. Have you flushed this? Oh good. I call these things Pavet Bats. You just swat Pavet with them and it'll do what you want it to do. So Jessel's like, so they're playing, they're just playing tennis really badly and everything. And then Uba starts playing and people are taking selfies and stuff. And then eventually Uba and Erin go to play tennis off to the side and everyone else sort of sits down

and they're sort of having a chill talk and everything. It's like kind of like they're settling into their seats by the side of the court. Yeah. And so Jenna is directing them take a picture with their legs crossed. And she's like, no, cross your legs the other way. They're like, oh my God, Jenna's so artistic.

Um, cause that's a lot of this show is just taking selfies and posing in their outfits, you know? And so they do that for awhile. And then, um, Psy comes over. She's like, Oh, hello. And Brynn's like, this is the second time I'm being ignored. I just don't know what the fuck is going on. No one was she even mean to Brynn right here. Yeah.

I think she was just, Psy was just like sitting down next to Jenna. I think it was like a normal. That's just how Psy is. I mean, Psy talks to everybody like they're sweeping her report. She's like, hi, how's it going? You doing? All right, all right, bye. I'm hungry. You got any candy on you? I don't know what Brynn was expecting, but no one is victimizing Brynn at the moment. Yeah. Did she want Psy to say hello to everyone down the line as she went to sit down next to Jenna? I don't think she needed to. I cannot believe how much I've been on Psy's side this

season. It's wild. So then- Then we see evidence of this happening the first time that was really offensive to Brynn. And it says flashback two hours earlier to Erin's closet bathroom. Bren and it says flashback two hours earlier to Aaron's closet bathroom. And Si goes, Aaron, do you have a sweater I can borrow? And then she walks past a bread to get a sweater. It's like, OK, did she need to hug a brand on her way to get a sweater? I mean, I don't know why this show is not burning up the ratings. So I see make that a drama. Remember how Si came into the room to get a sweater? know why this show is not burning up the ratings. So, make that a drama.

Remember how Psy came into the room to get a sweater? She walked right past you to get it. You better call her out on that girl. If I remember correctly, by the way, I need, I need like a little bit of a recap here. So they were fighting. The big fight between Psy and Brynn is that Psy was mad that Brynn told Jenna that Psy hated Jenna. And then when they tried to squash it last week, Brynn was looked just immediately like, whatever I did, I apologize to you for. And so I was like, you didn't even hear what I have to say. And then they finally just got to a detente with like, okay, whatever. And then it was reignited because Sai was mad because she just

feels like she never, like Brynn just wasn't taking her seriously. And it got reignited right by Uba at the end of the, at the end of the episode, cause Uba kind of like brought it up to the, to the group again at the, at the, whatever brunch breakfast they were having. Is that correct, Ronnie? Yeah, basically Brynn was talking shit behind everyone's back. And so to get, everyone's trying to confront her about it,

to get her to stop it. And then she turns herself into a huge victim every single time. And then Uba was trying to fight other people's battles, but then got mad at her, got mad at her on her own cause she's still mad about the Connecticut guy. And so Brynn keeps kind of apologizing to people, but it's more like an, I'm sorry you're mad, but you will not speak to me in that manner. She's like doing the absolute wrong apology every single time.

So these girls still do not like her. And she's not gonna win until she gives a little and we're gonna watch how that goes for the rest of the episode. Brynn is having a spectacular face plant this season and the audience is not having it. So Brynn is like, no, like you go onto Twitter, everyone go onto Twitter and you will see people are not having Brynn

right now. So she earned it in this episode, you know, last episode, I was like, but I like, I like her like, I think she I like her stick in a way like it's kind of funny. Like I get it. I don't hate. I don't understand the hate I was saying, like, why is everybody else hating on her so much? Wow. And then she had this week. I was like, oh, ouch, are you an idiot?

As an early, I'm trying with you here, lady. I'm trying, okay? Yeah, as an early Brynn skeptic, this is very validating for me. I still contend that like when Brynn is just drops her whole act and she's just like, when she's more authentic, she's much more compelling. I still believe that, but I does that for me.

Whether that's separate from me actually enjoying her today. You were a parking ticket at the Grove when you were only there under an hour. You were immediately validated. Yes. God, I loved it. So anyway, so Brian is like, my fighter flight is kicking in because I don't think I'm on the first flight, baby. And I'm going to join the mile high club on it, yes! But you keep starting fights with everybody, so your frequent flyer miles must be great

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Chevron. Oh, who's she? No. Chevron, I believe that's Poppet's favorite kind of cheese. No, no, no, it's not a cheese. Yeah, you know, Puerto Ricans are very mixed, but the French name that I have isn't actually even my father's last name. I have absolutely no relationship with my father and Brin's like really, you know They're all like wait. Is there trauma bonding to be had? Yes. Yes gather round Everybody first trauma dump of the season gather round get over here bring that tennis pro over. Come on drama dump happening now Thomas you have any old rackets we can burn on the

Burn on the court? Need to make a fire. Girls, get some s'mores. Incoming trauma. Trauma. They love a trauma dump on this show. They do. But this, you know, Raquel is not, you know,

we're laughing because that was last season's theme. Her trauma is actually, no one's trauma was funny. It's just that they really rolled around. It's just that they really rolled around. It just that it really, it like it, it just really comes in wave after wave after wave. And so like the trauma itself, the story is actually very sad and, um, it's riveting to watch it told, but it's like, so the show like, oh yeah, of course, how did we not think this was going to be the backstory?

So basically, Raquel tells a story about how her mother left her father when she was one. And when she was 11, she wanted to get to know who her father was. So she called up and the dad's new wife, her girlfriend answered and she was like, who is this? And she's like, I'm the daughter. And then the dad was like, don't you ever call here again. And then his brother was like, what the fuck are you doing? So then she went over for holidays. And like the dad sent, what was it? Sent like a picture and was like, here's a picture. Nice knowing you. Bye. Or something like that. Like really like a real shit, shit box of a man, of a human. Terrible story for her. I mean, it was heart wrenching, this whole story. Yeah, it was really sad. It was, I mean, it was, it was heart wrenching this whole story.

Yeah, it was really sad. And so, um, yeah, he like put all the kids in a photo booth. He saw them one time, put them in a photo booth and then the photo strip came out and then he just cut, cut it up into three parts and just handed them all apart. And then they never saw him again. And so basically she was like, fuck that guy. I don't want that guy's name. I don't wanna walk around with his name. So I tried to take my mom's name and my mom was like, my dad was an asshole too, which was just so sad.

You know? And so they went down the family tree until they found this name. And so she kept this name. And so it's really a sad story and it's a touching story. And she's really come so far, you know, despite all this. And Brynn saying that it's so cool to see somebody go through something like that

and still build themselves into what she has, like not letting your story control your life, which I think is probably one of the more empowering parts of this show, because I feel like sometimes a problem with everybody airing their trauma is it's like a way to excuse something kind of the way that it's to get out of a fight. Oftentimes on reality TV in general, is like these traumas don't come up until you really need something on The Bachelor. It's like when you

need to stay and you need that rose is when it's time to get your trauma out. Or on here, it's like when you need to be excused from being an asshole, it's time to bring up the trauma. But this was like, no, that was my trauma and that shit's over now. And I'm stronger for it. And you know what? Fucking God bless that woman. Amen. I mean, she's obviously kicking ass. She's, you know, she's killing it. She's doing a great job. So they're all hugging and crying and you know, they're all crying and having a good bond. And then Jussell's like, so do you get an actual percentage everybody sometimes fills

up gas? Or is that sort of a thing that they just bought when you were done with it? Rebecca, now that Raquel has done her trauma dump, is there anything you would like to trauma dump on us? Yeah, well, there was one time I was in Iowa at a parking lot and I just had to puke. So I just puked right into a planter and it turns out it was actually someone's popcorn.

It was disgusting, I don't know. But guys, I do actually have some trauma to dump. So can anyone open their mouths because I'm really full right now. I think why is every story about you so disgusting, Rebecca Minkoff? So then Rick. So then we move on to the Sprinter van. We get back on the van and Sai's like,

oh, I can't do this on my way. I'm really working on my skin right now. I'm really working on it. And Raquel is like, well, you need the vitamin D. Oh, honey, I got the vitamin D before I left. See, we're just like Ramona and Sonya, right? So then they were saying, like, I slept so well, and then I woke up at five in the morning. And everyone goes, yeah. And then I went back to sleep. My dad does the same thing.

So they're like, oh yeah, by the way, can we go to lunch with your dad? Is he in town? So they FaceTime Aaron's dad. And there, you know, she tells her dad that they're doing a Shabbat dinner tonight. And they have this nice little conversation with him. And he's like, only kosher, only kosher. So Jessel is basically like, are we dressing up tonight? What is the vibe? What is even this thing Shabbat? And Jenna's like, I don't know, but I'm making a pavlova

and you have to dress up with a pavlova because I'm gonna mention pavlova. 60 more dress. Dress for pavlova. Yeah, I'm just gonna keep saying pavlova. It makes me so real. This is why I was hired to get people to, you know, feel like Rockefeller Center is a village where we're all included. And the first thing to doing that was whipping up a Pavlova.

I said, what if we take the skating rink and design the walls that way it looks like you're skating inside a giant Pavlova. I wanted to create a show called 30 Pavlova. And I'm still waiting to hear back on that. You know, I was ousted from J.Crew after I proposed the radical idea that we rebrand the company as J. Pavlova. It did not go over well. But the show I had come up with is still running over there, the Pavlovets. And just Pavlovas kicking really, really high.

We had two different creative visions. We're like, do we want Pavlovas kicking high or do we want Rockettes kicking Pavlovas into the audience? And we thought, why not both? Why not both? So they all have to cook a dish. And back at the house, Raquel and Jenna are trying to time what they're going to make. And Jenna is like, I'm making a Pavlova. What are you going to cook?

And Raquel's like, well, I'm cooking a fish. And I just honestly, I need to marinate the fish for a little while, because that's how you make fish in the art world. And she's like, oh, okay, well, you do that. I'll make the pavlova. So then I don't want to be in the kitchen by myself. So I'll make pavlova while you marinate fish. The meringue base has to cool in the oven because that's how pavlovas do.

And then Raquel's like, but Uba says she wants to put her rice and beans in the oven. How many ovens does Erin have? I was like, oh my God, are we but Uba says she wants to put her rice and beans in the oven. How many ovens does Erin have? I was like, oh my God, are we about to have a Pavlova versus rice and beans fight on the show? I was like, this will either be its best moment or it's worst, but I'm getting ready for it. And sadly, it never happened. I felt like they're really setting us up for something. Because you know, they're going to cook. How are we going to cook? Who's going to get room to cook? Is everyone going to have room to cook? But what if she's in there? I'm not gonna have room to be in there. Oh, no How are we gonna get to Pavlova? How are we gonna get the fish? It's over. That's it. Yeah

We've seen this before we like, you know Luanne has built a whole cottage industry out of egg a la frances drama And so I was like, oh this is gonna be uber melting down. They're who took my beans out? I have to cook my beans in the oven for Pavlova. You know, I never said you could take my beans out of the oven. I was like, here it comes. It's going to be a thing. This is going to be the big Hamptons fight of the episode. Here we go, buddy. No, come on, Pavlova versus beans. Come on.

No. Yeah, I was really looking forward to that, but guess what? It didn't happen. I was also, I didn't know you made my best friend is Puerto Rican. And so she's made me rice and beans my whole adult life actually. And I don't think that she makes them in the oven. I mean, I guess that's how it turned out. I have never made rice and beans to be honest, but who knows? Maybe Ube's recipe is different.

Oh, was Sai's doing it? I thought it was Ube making. Don't they say Sai is making rice and beans? No, Ube was making rice and beans. Oh, okay. Then that's, it's different. Then that's different. I thought it was like the typical, you know, like this Puerto Rican rice and beans dish. So maybe that's why it's different. Cy was doing a whole thing, which by the way, explains why she had a big metal pot in her car last week

because she clearly had a dish. I felt like Cy was doing the most cooking. She was the one who was doing all the heavy lifting in that kitchen in my humble opinion. Yeah. So then downstairs in the living room, Cy, Raquel, Jessel are all on the couch chilling and Cy's boob pops out and Raquel's like, booby, boobies coming out. I don't know why I'm reading this.

So then, uh, they seriously, so now Brynn is in bed with Aaron. Does someone say my Pablova's coming out? Oh, sorry. Yeah. Brynn's in bed and Aaron's like, what are you doing in here? Aren't you having a fun time? We were just about to talk about rice and beans possibly going in an oven at the same time as Pavlova. And Brin's like, I just want to go home. Can I go home? Everyone's so mean to me.

No, please don't even say go home. It's that bad right now. Where's the rice beans and brand? I mean, I wasn't even included by the rice and beans. Everyone's so mean to me. I like don't know what's up with them. I'm like sick of it. Like my brother dies in me. By the way, when Brynn cries, she smushes her whole head into the back of her

neck, which is really funny. She's always like, she always looks like she looks like she's like facing down a wind turbine. So she's like, she does that. She gives herself like a quadruple change. She's like, I don't know what's up with them. I'm just like, and like my brother texted me and I am like, Brent, is someone sticking an invisible pillow on your face? Yeah, so suffocating. I just want to go home. Well, I know that sign Uber are very frustrated with Brian, but you know, I've

been the target of a pile on and then we see flashback to last year with everyone in the hot tub and Aaron saying, you're trying to get everyone against me. It's enough. It's like, do you mind? What are you doing to me? Literally no one has ever been this mean to me before. Aaron, the victim of her own stupid prank that went awry.

That's the part that she leaves out. By the way, she learned nothing from because this episode, she's like, guess what we should do at my house again? A prank. I know I, well, we'll get to that. So, um, also when Erin said that she's been the victim of a pylon, I have expected to see footage like her to tell a story about how she like walked into a pylon. Like I was a victim. Have that removed. My family's in real estate.

You don't know what it's like. You lose all trust in someone when they put a pylon in your way. So then that's Karen. So then at Aaron's second Harbor home in the living room. Okay, we're back at the in the living room. So now we're back at the in the living room so now they're talking about outfits and like who's cute and stuff and then I don't care about any they're gonna go to the mall Okay, they're gonna go to the supermarket. So then Jenna goes to check on Brynn and she's like Are you gonna go with him to the shop in your non Bentley? She's like, no, no. She's like, Oh, are you going to be supervising my Pavlova work because I'm going to work

on a Pablo right now. No. So now Aaron's making a fire and they're going gonna go chill by that and Raquel's like, I just have to cut the eggplant and then I have to get it started. And then after that, I'd be more than happy to just chill at the fire like a couple of girlfriends. So now Brynn is in the bathroom talking to Jessel and she's like, I don't know what I did to make them so mad and like literally like look at me and say you're a snake and

Dadada da da da da da da this is all your thing shut the fuck up like what did I even do? And then we see a flashback to that whole fight and Brin's like it's just like such an energy suck I'm like you're the one who's literally sucking the energy out of this like Pleasant making dinner sequence that is going on for the next 15 minutes. If energy is not a really rich, handsome man, I don't want to suck it. So then back in the kitchen, Erin is, you know, I'm gonna go sit by the fire and out.

So now is wackiness with Brynn and Jenna in the kitchen. Hey, where's the temperature gauge? Wait, do you know how to cook? I mean, I know how to do pavlova. You're like so lost in the kitchen. How are we ever going to get married if you don't cook? Jenna's like, well, it's not my kitchen. Hey, Erin, do you have like a stepson or a godson or someone around that can cook food for us tonight? No. Usually when I say I'm going to cook something, I go into the kitchen and I tell whatever lady is there in khaki pants that it's time to cook the thing. So do you have one of those or you usually when it's time for me to cook, I just blast chapel rhone from my speakers and wave a flag out my window and usually

gay comes up and cooks me something. For the longest time I just thought Pavlova was called icon mother because the gay wouldn't stop saying that as he cooked it. Icon mother, icon mother, you're Pavlova. I always assumed Pavlova was a beautiful lesbian figure skater from 1987. So I always said I would love Pavlova until I realized it was just a dessert.

So it's just now my thing. Does that make any sense? So now Brynn's, now Brynn's doing, no, but I loved it. So now I love, now Brynn is doing that thing where she's like, why are you drinking? You need to drink with me. Why are you drinking?

You should drink. Why won't you drink with me? Why, why? Baby, baby wants drinky. So Jenna's like, okay, well, I'm not gonna drink, but I'll make it up to you by letting you wear my diamonds because you know, you're, I mean, I don't wanna say poor, but you're poor.

So here, take some diamonds. Look, wear them. This is the oddest century and I accept. So Jenna just puts diamonds on her. I love just Jenna just has massive diamonds everywhere. And she goes, I mean, who doesn't feel better when adorned with diamonds? I'd like to meet that person. Diamonds are every girl's best friend. Well, next to Pavlova, they do make you feel better. I do think they have healing powers. I'm just incredibly rich. You know what else has healing powers? Being so wealthy.

So then at the grocery store, Sai, Uba and Jessel are shopping and Uba's like, do you have coconut milk? So, okay, they're getting stuff. And and Uba's like, do you have coconut milk? So, okay, they're getting stuff. And then, um, it was like, oh my God, listen to how Jessel says cilantro. She says cilantro. Hilarious. Season three incoming. Cilantro. I mean, isn't that, isn't that Raquel's last name, cilantro? Just no. Um, so they're shopping. They're at a place called Amber waves, which for everyone who's a barefoot contest, girly like me knows that Ina Garten loves Amber waves. So shout out to Amber waves and Ina Garten because why not why not shut them out on this

episode where nothing's happening. So I was like, I guess when was the last time you went through a supermarket just I literally never even go. We should go to one sometime. We're literally in one right now. Oh, really? Where do we get the gas? Where do we put the gas in the car? Why you keep asking about gas?

It's a supermarket, Jesus! Oh, all right. What do we do here? You get food! Disgusting, I would never. This is a terrible place. Can we go now? There's so much pollution in here. Look at these things just all crumped together. Like those could choke things in the ocean. They're bananas! Whatever you say. All I see are different things I can push Puffet into. So what are those baseballs?

They can't assume. Like I said, it's all disgusting to me personally. So then they have dessert. What if Janice Pavlova sucks? Should we get some ice cream? And she's like, oh, my God, you're ridiculous. So then they play- Do we have dessert? What if Jenis Pavlova sucks? Should we get some ice cream? And she's like, oh my God, you're ridiculous. So now, Sai wants to play a game called How Much Shit Is.

And they're like, how much shit is? We get the wacky graphic. Wacky graphic. And so Sai is like, how much is organic milk? Where's that from? Is that from the state of Organia? What is that? Is that from Orange County or organic orange? Two different words. Okay. What is normal milk from? It's a different kind. Does Tom Cruise drink this milk? That will help inform my would have been full my estimation. So she's Oh, I know that milk is expensive. So that

would be $6 and 50 cents. I was like, wow, Jessel is actually gonna fuck up this game, which I love because yeah, I was supposed to be like the mom on Arrested Development, right Ben? Yeah, I think this was actually a hilarious game. Honestly, I think 650 was a reasonable guess. But the problem is you have to also add in Hampton's costs, which is like, it adds like three or $4 onto everything. So, Sahai's like, well, I also didn't realize the fucking milk was $9 either.

So, then they're like, okay, Sahai's like, okay, avocado oil. Now this is where Jessel's really off, because oil in general has gotten so expensive. I went to pavilions the other day and like a 48 ounce thing of like the California olive oil is selling for $48. I was like, absolutely not. So oil is crazy.

So especially like these sort of like more specialized oils, like not like vegetable or canola. So size like how much is avocado oil? And Jessica goes, I don't know. $5. No, $16. Okay, what's a dozen eggs? She goes, Oh my god. $11 less than a dollar per egg. $8 Oh my god, that's quite expensive for things to throw at Povit's head You know how much my eggs are I'm paying $1,000 a month for my frozen embryos like I can't with eggs I just can't with eggs. Oh Okay. Well, I guess that's the end of a fun game. So, okay, let's talk about eggs. So how are you paying a thousand dollars?

She's like well, it's it's just ridiculous frozen eggs and She basically has also got so many like who needs six or seven. Is that I is that normal? I mean, I'm saying that like I know I don't know like do you have extras in case one doesn't work out or I think that's What it is in case somebody doesn't I don't know, you know, whenever it gets to this sort of stuff, I'm always like, what's an egg? So, but she's keeping them in a freezer, essentially, metaphorically, on Rodeo Drive. Of course she is.

She's like, well, I want my frozen embryos to be near the frozen embryos at the stars. So we're on Rodeo Drive. Julia Roberts just passed one of my future children probably this week. It's worth it. It's worth every moment. One Julia Roberts embryo just told my embryo, big mistake, huge. George Costanza just flirted,

George Costanza's embryo just flirted with my embryo. Got really rude towards the end. My embryo is wearing a big black rimmed hat and walking a very small dog at the moment, just so you all know. Go dayo drive. So, so I was like, oh my God, well, why don't you just put him with someone else? I could do it. And Jessel's like, well, a surrogate adds another $250,000. I mean, it's basically three avocado oils. Jenna's like, Yeah, I know that's like five Pavlovas.

So Sai is basically like, whatever, if you give me $250,000, I know that's like five Pavlovas. So size basically, whatever. If you give me $250,000, I'll carry your baby, Jessel. I'm really invested here. I'll carry two of them. I don't care. Oh my God, that's all we need. The kid will come out with a Big Mac. Like, wait, where'd you even get that?

Shut up, I'm hungry. So then, and I know, I know that the baby's not supposed to take on characteristics from the oven, only from the egg and the sperm. I get it, but I don't believe it. I don't believe you just live in a house for nine months and you don't remember anything about it. I think it's going to get some scion parted into it no matter what people say about DNA. Yeah, it's a lot of size voice.

I don't understand how that does not impact a little baby. So it's like kids, you know, when people say, oh my God, when I was pregnant, I had a difficult pregnancy and I couldn't leave the house. So I would just listen to you guys. I would listen to your podcast, which is the nicest thing. You know, my response is always, why would you torture yourself? Are you in enough pain?

But, you know, then that's why their babies always come out with a tiny martini and a cigarette. And I was like, you know what? Fuck you. Fuck you. So Jessel is saying like, so you know, you know, saw I see you in London, it's so cool to have a girl. And she's like, Yeah, it's very sweet bonding, like the connection that we have.

You know, Jessel wouldn't make the best girl mom. You know, that little girl would be running around in silk feather pajamas and just being like, twinning, be like twinning all over the place, you know? So then Uba's like, come on, get pregnant together with me. And Sai is saying that like having a daughter is like having a best friend that you're going to have for the rest of your life.

And she just wants that for Jessel. God, these people obviously are not in touch with gay culture. Little mommy dearest anybody? Can someone send Sai to gay college please for about 10 minutes? I think also maybe they should talk to Jenna Lyons because they may have forgotten about one of her storylines from last season. Seriously, or her own really. So then size two.

Oh, oh. Size two, yeah. She's like, oh, everyone loves their mom. So then Uba's like, you know, can't you keep an embryo at home in your fridge? Why can't you do that? And they're laughing and she's like, cause that's a lot of money. I mean, I pay $300 for my eggs and I like the Uber fans like some discount team movers. It'll take about 13 weeks to

ship them here. And I'll be in the tape together box that's probably been thrown all over a truck from China to here. But still, she has a test tube in the back of a display at Carvel somewhere. She's like, Oh, don't mind me. That's just my baby behind the rocky road. Why does that sign say 32 flavors? I'm one. So then we go back to Erin's kitchen and Raquel needs a nap, you know, and Brynn's like, I'm gonna nap too. So, you know, and Brin's like, I'm gonna nap too. So, you know, we're, we're firing on all cylinders. So then, um,

the other girls come back to the house, fire and also, and there's like packages on the front steeps of side, of course, it's like one of these packages for, and they're like, stop being nosy. So they walk in with pizza and Aaron's like, oh, you have pizza. And just like, we did that right before dinner. And they're like, yeah,

we know dinner's not gonna be ready anytime soon. Dinner, we all know dinner is gonna suck. Like who are we getting here? So, so I was like, this girl has to make rice and beans. What time do you think that's going to be done? We just want to be courteous, you know, come on. So then now everybody is still cooking and stuff. For people who decided to join into our podcast episode midway through for some strange reason,

I just want to let you know, we've been talking for 20 minutes about people prepping and going to the grocery store to make dinner. I keep looking at the page numbers on the side of the notes to see if I've gone backwards, but I have not. You know what's shocking? I mean, I have so much fun talking about it with you. I mean, I guess it's not shocking, but I'm having so much fun. But yeah, it's like, okay, I'm going to take a nap. Hey, you guys want to take a nap? I'm going to take a nap. And then Raquel is going to go on the grill cause she's really good at it. And then Aaron's like, um, I don't fuck with a grill.

Yeah. And Raquel was like, I will slay a fucking grill. You know, I don't cook very well, but I cook, I cook, I can fucking kill it on a grill. And then Erin now, meanwhile, she's like, wait, Jenna's having a Pavlova moment. I want to have a food that starts with P moment. So she's like, I made pica de o. And she said, then for the rest of the episode, wait, I made pica de o. You want my pica de o? I made pica de o. It's ground beef. Pica de o. It's ground beef. Oh, so then just was trying to peel a potato and can't do it. And she's like, what the fuck did I say? Wanted to make this.

She's so difficult making pudding. So it's like, that's a potato. Oh, God, I've never seen someone peel a potato like that. You're going backwards instead of forwards I actually feel it like that's a move that way. That's not how avocados work This is a potato I thought this is the can of beans I by Ronnie what so I have The peeler that I have,

I use a Y shaped peeler, cause you know there's like a Y shaped peeler or like the sideways peeler and I've like adopted the Y shaped peeler. And when I use it, I hold the potato in front of me and I pull it down sort of towards me. But according to side that's actually backwards and then they show she does it forward like,

tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch. Which way do you do it? Forwards. I never knew this. I'm going to try it. Yeah. If that's the why I just pulled, I pulled backwards, but I'm holding my hand so that it's moving forward towards the potato. Yeah. I mean, anything sharp you're not supposed to have facing you because you know, you'll die. Now I've never known anybody to die from a potato cutter or peeler, but I have cut myself many times with a peeler. Have you? Not too much, but if I were using the side type of peeler,

which is what I used to do, I would do that one forward, but with the Y shaped one, I always pull things to me. Like I'm like, unzipping it almost, you know, I feel like I have control that way, but I, it feels weird to go forward. Unzipping it, pulling outwards. Well, meaning like if I feel like I have control that way, but I it feels weird to go Zipping it's pulling out words. I'm zipping well meaning like if I were like if I were looking at it like this Okay, I'm looking at the book if I'm looking by the way, sorry. This is it. No, I'm gonna imagine you It's like this is this is doing it backwards. So this is right. This is how I would do it like this not like doing it backwards though.

This is right. This is how I would do it. Like this, not like I do like I would, I don't do, I don't do it forward like that. I still pull it back like this. My coffee is a potato. I'm doing my coast. I do it like this too. But you're still, you're brushing it away. Whereas I would go like this. Well, you know what? We don't have classes on that shit. What do we know? I'm going to try that next time I peel a potato or any other thing. Oh my God. Good luck on your journey. You're going to have so much fun. Guys, I've learned something from Ronnie.

Now they're still cooking. They're cooking more. And then Raquel is out there grilling in a nice big fur coat. And they're like, oh my God. It's like, it's giving cavemen chic. By the way, how many followers does that caveman have? I will go help it at the grill. Um, this just in Raquel has caught on fire by wearing a giant furry thing next to a grill. Um, I, you know, the producers were like, Oh my God, Raquel wearing a fur while she grills, this is iconic.

America is going to love this right now. Well, America grills and we know what a mistake that is because that woman is going to smell like dead cows all the way home. I'm glad she brought her own car because that shit's never leaving your coat. Have fun. Yeah. I was like, do you really grill because you're wearing a big fluffy jacket right in your, first of all, an open flame, which is scary. And second of all, it's just going to smell like smoke for eternity. So there, she doesn't even make her lamb. Guys, yeah. She said, here's the lamb that was able to be cooked. Everybody I made it. And so I was like, Oh, wait, did you cook the fish first? Please tell me you're a cook the fish first kind of a person because I don't want to have fish. It tastes like goddamn lamb. And she's like, Oh,

we didn't have the fish. You guys weren't able to pick up the fish. And everyone just felt weird about having two day old fish. Two day old fish eat the two day old fish. What's wrong with that? How new does it have to be? You need to get it like straight from its mother's breast. Not mine. Rebecca's like, I know, like, you're not taking this fish from me. Only 20 years old.

Let me tell you something. I once had a two day old fish and I have never shot more at a Michael Coors fashion show than I did that day. Thanks Rebecca. Okay. TMI. Oh gosh. Okay.

So then Erin is with the British. Like I have an idea. Look, we take this roach from this gag gift and we could put it in food. We should put it in Jenna's meringue. Wow. This is hilarious. I'm like the queen of pranks. I don't know how they didn't just insert uber like no one takes my phone. God damn it. When I am on vacation. My family used to be wrong. Yeah. Um, I was already seeing the trajectory of this episode,

which is that this was going to be a prank. Ubo was going to be disgusted and she was going to start yelling at Aaron for, how could you do that? Like food is a sacred thing and you don't like, you don't mess with that. And now I've lost my appetite. And this is what I thought the trajectory was going to be. So yeah, they're going to put a roach out. So hilarious. So then Aaron and Rebecca are talking in the other room and everybody looks super pretty guys. Okay. So now it's shabach to them bitches. And this is the segment where they all talk about each other's clothes for about five minutes solid.

Like, oh my God, do you look amazing? What is that? Oh my God, it's Shabooty. Really? That's amazing too. What are you wearing? I'm wearing Cassandra. Cassandra!

Where's your friend Cassandra? What are you wearing? I'm wearing something from the Bob Hope collection. Really fabulous. Thanks for the memories. Hey, Rebecca. What are you wearing? I'm wearing something from the Bob Hope collection. Really fabulous. Thanks for the memories. Hey, Rebecca, are you going panty free? She's like, no, I'm not.

I learned that I should always wear a diaper. Oh, so just take the panties off, Rebecca. I mean, and then Rebecca says no, because then it's wet. Because, oh, excuse me. Do you want to have a drink? You just said well. So now it's time to have dinner and they're talking about Jenna's outfit and she's wearing like a latex sexy top. And Jessica's way was this recycled part of a truck at one point?

I'm just asking because you are a lesbian and you are very, you know, modern. So I assume you're into recycling, you know, people like us do now and you like trucks because well, I mean, some truck, I just love Jessel saying this to Jenna Lyons, you know, again, well, she's not she's now no longer like the like established person in fashion here at the table because we have Rebecca Minkoff, but Jenna Lyons, person of the fashion industry and Jessel saying, so I mean, this latex is just is this like recycled truck of some sort? And Jenna's like...

And Rebecca goes, what part of the truck, Jessel? What would that even mean? I don't know the potato. I've never been in one, but I can just assume. Don't they have like, I don't know, CD players or things like that in trucks, whatever it is. And Jenna's like, you know, there are things that come out of Jessel's mouth that I just, I mean, I love her, but I just don't know what happened there. I mean, this is made special,

and just for me, and it's by a very special Japanese woman. So, I mean, it's custom made in London by a special Japanese. So, I mean, next time I just want her look at me and say, was that made by a special Japanese person? Because I mean, duh. It's not a dump truck. Meanwhile, there was a Japanese lady in London being like, I just sewed, recycled dump truck to some lady in New York who thought it was actually worth something. Jessel's like-

I recycled my husband's truck into a new outfit for that crazy lady and now I drive a Nissan Maxima. It's like, wow, nailed it. So, Jenna, so Jessel's like, I mean, how do we even get into latex? And Jenna's like, well, I mean, I have a lot. Jenna is the thing like where she wants to tell a story, but wants to pretend like she's embarrassed. So she's like, puts her hands like on her, like on her brow and it's like, oh, you guys. So they're like, Jenna, Jenna,

what's going on? Do you have like, what's going on here? She's like, do you have like a latex company? She's like, no, I have, I have a decent amount of it cuz like years ago That's so hot And she was like softcore softcore bondage. What is it? I mean, I like the idea of someone being in this like a wallflower quiet kind of woman of mystery Then you boom behind the scene. She's getting her freak on banging dudes. Yo fucks I love it. Okay, while Brynn is having a pre-Pablava orgasm, let me tell you the story about why I have so much latex in my apartment.

So I was 27 years old and I dated a guy who was working for the New Yorker and you had to write about all the sex clubs in New York. And there were like tons of them. And this was like before Giuliani. And I remember we went to this one downstairs that was like a full on sex dungeon. And there was like woman being strapped to a wheel

and being turned and making Pavlovas and just being auctioned off. And there was like someone over a horse. I was just wild, just this crazy sex crazy sex club I'm like this is an interesting story it does not explain why you have so much latex in your apartment though yeah I failed to see the connection it's like they see right I didn't notice that but you're right actually so like I went to a sex club once and now I have a lot of latex I was like did you source the latex from the sex club?

Did you have to wear this latex to the sex club? I'm like, I still want the dots to be connected a little bit more. Yeah. So they're not taking it very well. Jessel's like, dungeon, sex dungeon? Is that where you get gas? No, Jessel.

Do they sell avocado oil in that dungeon and is it also $16? Jenna's like, there was a woman like sort of like, I don't know, strapped to a wheel and like they kept turning her around. Did she ever hit the big money with people yelling wheel of fortune? It wasn't, it wasn't, I don't think it was a good, I don't know. I don't know if it was a good thing, but it was like people getting naked. It was like public sex. It was so crazy. I mean, before Giuliani, you know, after Giuliani, no one really does that anymore.

But I still see those people in the park sometimes and just think, God, I remember when you were basically a human swatch watch that night. Yeah, it was, it was pretty wild. It was pre Giuliani, but after Giuliani, that sex dungeon turned into an olive garden in Times Square So it's exciting still unlimited sticks so

question Did the did this that I forgot my question was I'm just going to move on so Jenna is like There's a lot of watching. There's a lot of public sex it was insane and um so they're like whoa titillation so erin's like okay by the way it's time for a prank everyone so uh they are gonna oh sorry no they're gonna do they light the candles they do the prayer um and erin does prayer, but she kind of forgets. So Rebecca Minkoff like helps her out with the last part. She's like, bray, parihagafen.

And then Erin's like, you know, it's sort of weird to me, like I love Becky, but I just don't fully understand how you can have two religions that are like so different and opposing. So she's basically like, how are you able to be Jewish and a Scientologist all at once? Oh, you just half-ass them both and then you've got a full religion.

Okay, welcome to America. So now Aaron's like, oh, I just want to say one important thing. It's like Shabbat's like super special. And so like, we're going gonna have Shabbat. Oh my god, what are you wearing? Oh my god, Jesse Simpson, what are you wearing? Marge Simpson. Wow, amazing.

They give cheers. And then they talk, Aaron's like doing one of those things like it's the end of the episode. And she's like, I love this group. No matter how chaotic we are, look at us. We just have so much fun together. It's like, you know you've still got half an hour to go. Right? I know the red light has not started blinking. You still have some time left in your set. She's like, even, look how chaotic we were today. I remember Jenna made a Pavlova.

I made Picadillo ground beef. Wow. The cast was close. It was crazy. I know how chaotic we can be, but we still come together like a sister head. So they all love the food and stuff. And, um, tomorrow there's a chef coming. He's going to make a ton of food. And Jessel's asking Raquel if her earrings are vaginas and Aaron's like okay speaking of vaginas let's play a game we're gonna play never have I ever never have I put bitcoin into an account and had my husband use it without telling telling me. Look, look, look, look, look, look, anybody?

Never never have I ever not made peak a deal. It's ground beef. Only me. So the question is never have I confused someone's name for during Oh God, who cares? It's a fucking housewives game. Get a life. Go do something. Talk to each other. My God. Don't you guys do anything? This is the most this is this is next to let's go get our vaginas frozen. Storyline as one of my most annoyed like let's have a game

because we have nothing to offer. You guys need better auditions. If you have nothing to offer with an entire housewives cast, then fucking games like this. Never have I ever. Yeah. And then side does a never have I ever seen my coworker naked, which leads to like five minutes of everyone talking about like, Oh, well, Rebecca Minkoff is like, well, I needed a graphic designer. So I called on Brad who was my ex boyfriend. So does that count? I'm not sure if that counts and then Erin is like

Well, well Britain's like oh Erin you stuff with your partner business partner And Erin's like, thanks Brian. Thanks so much. Would you like some more pica de oh ground beef? So Erin is like talking about like her business part. It's really deeply uninteresting stuff she's she went into business with some dude that she banged in high school, basically. And then she and I used to show my boobs to get a free taxi so that I'm like, you are a piece of trash. And they talk about how she used to have really good boobs before

kids stole them from her. And then now the next one is I never. And Brynn says to Jenna, this one's for you. Never have I ever licked a bottle. Hmm. And then I was like, never. I don't know. And it was like, you're gay. So I'm going to say something that sounds gayish. Yeah. To you. You put the gun to my face and I wouldn't do that. And Aaron's like, I would maybe look a woman's asshole, but not a man's. And Jus is like, Black, maybe if it was bleach.

No, an asshole. Is that actually not even sure what an asshole really is? I'll tell you what, an asshole has no gender between that. I only have a woman's, but not a man's, you know? So then Raquel, so then they're talking about, oh my God, what if they steamed it? Raquel says, only if they steamed it in the yoni pot. And so they're laughing and Brent's like,

let's be yon, let's be yon, let me, why is everybody so mean to me? Jenna's like, I'm not letting my child watch this show. So now it's time to bring dessert out. So Erin grabs the fake cockroach and she's going to like, she slides it under the pavlova. And so then they bring, Erin tells us, I've heard the word Pavlova maybe 50 times. Of course I want to put a roach in the Pavlova. Chef's kiss.

So meanwhile, the girls are making small talk and they're asking Uba about her hot sauce. And she's like, oh, I'm just waiting to have a team. I don't want to rush because I can't produce a lot. Didn't you already go on morning shows promoting this? How much did you have? Like three bottles in your house. But she's still working on that. And which I would totally buy

because I love some hot sauce. And then Jessel is whatever. So finally we get this crazy wacky thing happen and everyone's like, oh my God, disgusting. And everyone's like, Oh my God, disgusting. Oh my God, there are eight legs on my place. I liked how long it took for them to find the roach because Aaron, like didn't hide it well. So she was like, everyone dig in, just dig in everyone. And like no one finds it.

No one's gonna eat either because it's a housewives cast. So they're barely gonna eat on camera. They're kind of like forking at the Pavlova in the center of the tables. Aaron's like, wait, no, everyone get a slice. Keep on eating. Anyone eating? I hope there's no objects in this Pavlova. Keep eating, everyone.

Keep eating. And then Uba gets sick and she has to run to the bathroom to barf because it grosses her out so bad. And she's really barfing. I mean, she's going crazy. She's barfing. She's like, ah, ooh, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.

It's like a choir of gross sounds in there. And then Sy goes to check on her, but she's so grossed out from the bar that she starts barfing. It's like that Stand By Me movie where everybody starts barfing at the same time. Yeah. So they're both barfing. And then Erin's like, Oh my God, you're throwing up in my sink. This is hilarious.

America must love us. And then Rebecca Minkoff is like, Oh, this is like Tuesday for me. So I was like, you know, I came into checking on, she's throwing up and made me throw up. And they're all just like cracking up. UBA's laughing. I thought I was like, for sure. It was going to get mad. Like I thought it was going to be like, you do not do this, but she was laughing. Everything was good. And there's like fun times with everyone. Um, yeah, I think we skipped a part because I seem to remember a part where someone said,

Rebecca, aren't you changing? And she was like, oh, I thought we were supposed to just come down here in our pajamas or something. Like it's brunch. That's the morning. Oh, that's coming up. That's coming up. I just answered myself, didn't I? Yeah. That's brunch. Like that's coming up. That's coming up. I just answered myself. Did my, yeah, that's brunch. Sorry.

I was like, I like that part. Why did we skip it? No, it, it, it, if you thought that we skipped a fun part, don't worry. We didn't. I was like, we need this. We need this today. So they laugh. It's a fun night. It was actually a we need this. We need this today. So they laugh. It's a fun night. It was actually a really fun night. There was no drama and they're all getting along well.

And Jessel one point notice notes that, you know, Uba and Brynn are getting along well. Everything is great. So now it's the next morning and the chefs are going to come over to make a shitty breakfast. And I know it's going to be shitty because the chef is too good looking to make a good breakfast. We all know the first rule of cheffery, right? And they come over and then Jessel and Rebecca are in the bedroom and Rebecca is like getting her pump, whatever it is, the breastfeeding.

It's a pump, right? It's called a pump, portable pump. Yeah. I'm just, I'm careful. Cause one time I said on the show, I was like, Oh, well she's got a milk. People were like, Ben, I cannot believe you refer to it as milking. So I'm like, I'm going to be careful. Cause sometimes I just casually just say things, but the wrong way. And I just think it sounds so much more mechanical. And Jessel's like, I can't believe you've done this. You've milked yourself for almost a year. She's like, Oh my God, my first was three years. I just can't stop. She's like, wow, Rebecca, that's a long time. She goes, yeah,

he literally would come up and go mommy booby. Rebecca, that's a long time. She goes, yeah, he literally would come up and go mommy booby. Just like my god. She says that she doesn't want to stop. She goes, we're gonna breastfeed until he can talk and say mommy, lift your shirt up. I was like, okay, it has to be that specific one. Because you were just talking about how the other one was like, mommy booby. So it has to be like full sentences. We don't stop until our children can do calculus. That's the basic rule.

Unfortunately, Parvath says the same thing to me. And whenever he does, I hit him over the head with a plastic spoon. I don't know any mother does that. My cousin just had a baby and it is the cutest thing. And she is the best mother. I mean, she's been waiting to have it for so long. It's so cute. Shout out to my little Isla. The cutest baby and like I have nothing against this baby, you know, it's like perfection. It's an angel. But I look at that and I'm like, get off of her. Like get a life. Anything to do with yourself? Get off of my fucking cousin, you monster, you fucking soul sucker.

No, it's hard not to get mad as a person with no babies. I just don't I don't understand how you do that for three years. Meanwhile, Jenna is packing and she tells us, or she tells someone, you know, every hotel I've been in, I've forgotten something. That just shows you how rich she is because that's a rich person thing to do

where you can just throw, you're like, I'm gonna throw whatever I can remember into his bag whenever I leave behind, I'll just replace. Yeah, I know. I'm like, oh my God, did I leave my M&Ms wrapper up there? What if there was still one in there? I didn't do the final check. I'm like, I'm the one who still looks under the bed, even though now all hotel beds have like walls under them. But maybe this one doesn't. Yeah. So now they're going down for breakfast and they're all getting dressed, you know,

and so they go downstairs and first Jessel calls Pavit and she's like, hello Pavit, have you met anybody famous? And I found out of Avocado's Power Cars. Did you know that? Do you know that when they talk about big oil, they're actually talking about avocados? I never understood that before. It's like, well, while you're goofing off, we're holding down the fort over here and trying out different kinds of catch-up from around the world. So far, Korea's winning.

Like and subscribe for more. Wait a second, we have a fort. What does that mean? Stop eating while I'm talking to you. Jessel, I don't have time to explain. I'm raising three children on my own. She goes, well, don't worry. Tomorrow you get off. And he's like, we know that's a lie. You're going to sleep in all the time. And he goes, hey, Rio, who's always sleeping?

And he goes, ma'am. She's like, oh my God, asshole, teaching our children to say I sleep all the time. Oh, God, actually, I've got to go. I'm extremely tired. I'm exhausted by this conversation. I can't deal with this anymore. I mean, what an asshole teaches my kids to say I'm always sleeping. How about I teach the kid, your father is always being stupid, hangs

out with people who love fried chicken and goes to tiny little dumps around the city just to try different balls of noodles. How about I tell the children to say that instead? Oh, sorry, Papa, she was still on. So then downstairs, the ladies are joking about trying on Jenna's rings and malaric. They're just so big, okay. And Jessel's like, Oh my God, do you think she let me try her on? Hey, Jenna, can I try yours? And she goes, which one? I've just got a lot of rich, I've got a lot of diamonds. And Rebecca's like, and Jessel's like, I want to try the promise ring. And Rebecca's like, wait, is it, it's a promise ring and not an engagement ring? And Jenna's like, wait, is it it's a promise ring? You're not an engagement ring. And Jen was like, No, it's it's, it's an

engagement ring. But when we first got engaged, it was hard because the kids were trying to be low profile on still trying to be a low profile with my diamonds. I love Jenna talking about trying to be low profile as she pulls up in her $250,000. I know, Rebecca's like, I'm sorry. To replace her vintage Mercedes. I didn't hear what you said. There's something in front of you. Could you move that? She moves her diamond out of the way.

I'm sorry. I said that, yeah, we're trying to be low profile. She's like, that diamond's as big as China. I know. I guess. I'm being low profile. I guess Rebekah said the joke anyway. So Jess was like, look it.

It just looks so good on me. Oh my God. I can't get it off. Sort of like the smell of puff it after he's been to one of his restaurants. So then Rebecca's like, well, I thought we were all coming down in our pajamas, but I guess I missed the memo because everyone's dressed to the nines. And like, Oh my God, you have two suitcases. I mean, you brought a lot of the chopper. What'd you actually wear? I mean, where are the looks for back? I mean, she's like, oh my God, it's actually hilarious.

I wore I've only worn half of one suitcase and then and then Brynn is like, um, OK, so when I give you shit about wearing the same thing, you can be like, hey, I have a clothing brand and then you can say, but you sold sweatshirts at BravoCon. This was hilarious. Yeah, you know, I have a national brand and you sell t-shirts at BravoCon brand.

And she's like, oh, but I'm not like that. That's not my nature. That means you're not going to last. That wasn't me. This was amazing because to me, what this said was that the producers do not like Brynn because they are putting their, their, they put, they decided to intentionally pull back the curtain to show that she is trying to sort of, um, produce moments. Right. Right.

And they are not protecting her in this way. They're outing her, which means that the producers are, they don't like her at all. That's my theory. Yeah, and it would have been funny if she did say that like for another take, okay, let's do it again. Well, I have a national brand and you sell t-shirts at BravoCon.

She'd been like, oh, Rebecca Minkoff was so mean to me. Like I totally lost my boner. Just kidding, I saw my boner, but it's a sad one. Brynn totally wants to have a feud with Rebecca. I mean, she started the season by saying, you know, like Rebecca Minkoff, like you've seen her stuff at Nordstrom Rack. She wants to have a feud with Rebecca

because that would totally raise Brynn's profile if she has a feud with like an established famous designer. But like this also speaks to when you're like truly successful, you're not like real housewives successful, but when you're truly successful, you don't have to do this. She's just like, yeah, yeah, no, I, I only, I don't have that. Like, oh yeah, cool. Yeah. When I get mad at somebody, I generally have them

followed by, um, members of my church and their lives ruined. So that's basically how it works with me. I don't need this petty shit. What are you talking about? So Bryn goes, guys, did you hear the news? And Uba goes like, well, I went to their room and we started laughing and Erin said, look, you guys love each other. And Bryn looked at each other the other day and we said,

of course we do. I love you Bryn. And Bryn's like, I love you too. Now, Uba, if you wanna say really, cause you only sell sweatshirts at BravoCon, this would be a good time to do it. You have to keep reading cause I have a headphone malfunction.

Oh no. So Brynn is like, I love you too. And Uba's like, and you know, and Brynn's like, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm not gonna cut you off more. And everyone's like, you just did. You did, you just did. And here's's like, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not gonna cut you off more. And everyone's like, um, you just did. She goes, you did, you just did. And here's the thing.

Every time I'm out of alignment is because of Brynn. She side checked me and like, I don't like to be interrupted. And when I'm having a conversation with someone else, let me finish Brynn, just let me finish. And Jenna's like, wait, I thought this was a happy moment. Like, let's go back to that. I love you, Parv. Let's go back to that.

Do we need another Pavlova or Picadillo? That's my food. And it was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't get mad. I don't scream unless you mean something to me. So that's the, I love when people say that. The only reason I'm terrible to you is because I love you. Yeah, oh my God, that's so sweet.

Could you love me less? That would be great. It's the Reza Farahan. Whatever the amount of love I need or whatever the amount of hate I need for you to treat me with some respect would be awesome if I could get that. Thanks. To me, this is the Reza Farahan defense. You know, we yell at each other, but it's because we're like family and like, I still haven't met baby shams, but we're family. haven't met baby shams, but we're family. So I wonder if, oh wait, no, Reza has met baby shams. We have confirmed that like two years ago,

but I still like it in my mind to think that Reza has not met baby shams. Baby shams. Baby shams. Baby shams. Oh, I miss, I miss Shaza Sunset. So Brynn... So anyway, so this is actually an important part.

So Erin says that last night she pulled Uba into her room and said, please work it out. You guys love each other. And Uba says, and then Brynn got out of bed and she came to me and touched my face and was like, please, please, please use your words when you're speaking. And then, which is already like, like, what's that all about? And then Brynn tells us, she goes, I was like, Uba, I don't want you to come off as angry. That was my priority with Uba. Not that she was yelling at me. So I was like, what? I was like, well,

she was allowed to be angry. You're allowed to be angry. Yes. And so Aaron's like, what? I was like, what? But she's allowed to be angry. You're allowed to be angry. Yes. And so Aaron's like, yeah, there was a couple of things where I was like, yeah, you shouldn't have said that. Did you see my last season? And Brynn's like, yeah, I told her, I want you to marry Oliver, and I want Oliver to marry you.

And I don't want you to come off as an angry black woman. I was like, oh no. I mean, I just heard all the chairs in the saloon back up. It's like, Oh no, why would you say that to somebody? What is wrong with you? What the fuck is wrong with you woman? Oh my God. There's so many like layers going on here. Uh, you can really go to Twitter and you can see people's reactions. A lot of people are saying

lots of very fascinating things. One thing that jumped out of me was that Brynn, someone said, I think her name on Twitter was Echo and she's like, you know, Sai spent all of last year yelling about things and Brynn never said this to Sai. So it's interesting that she's saying it to Uba, but this just felt like, this was, this I feel like did not rub, didn't rub me the right way, it did not rub many people the right way. Yeah, no, you don't say that, especially, I mean, look, we're two white guys too,

so I don't wanna like sit up here and like school a black woman on what she's supposed to say. Exactly. I also understand that boundary, but just from watching Potomac and not living this experience, but just having watched it play out on that show, I was like, no, a lighter, like you don't,

you're a light skinned woman. Like you don't, you don't get to do that. Well, in my mind, I don't get to do that. What, what I, like Ronnie said, you know, we are two white guys and so we're, I feel like we're observers of a situation, but it's not a lived experience for us. But like from what I,

everything that I have learned and seen and et cetera, it just felt like there's, there's so much subtext going on here. And it felt like this was really problematic on Brynn's part to, to really bring this up and to suggest also that Oliver wouldn't marry Uba if she were quote unquote an angry black woman. And the truth was also that like Uba was like, Uba is allowed to get mad, especially if you're the one who made her mad. She's allowed to have an emotion. Jeez. Yeah. Agreed. And the, and the, and the user works thing was very condescending.

That's a very condescending thing for Bryn to say to someone. So, and then, and Uber said, and Erin was like, she's not an angry black woman, don't say that. And she said, shut up, Erin, you don't know you're not black, shut up. And so Erin's like, I had a feeling Uber would think about that and then be like, don't tell me how to behave. And then it comes back to Uber going,

please don't tell me how to behave. Someone on Twitter also said, you know, it's a bad state of affairs when even Aaron understands that what just happened was problematic. Well, that happened last year. That happened last year with Aaron. Like Aaron said, like, why are you so angry? And then she was backing away from her and saying shit like that. And that's kind of what happened with Aaron last year. So yeah, Erin knows. And I think Brinn's doing this like, well, I can, but you can't type of thing. And it's like, Nope, Nope. So, um,

but it also is like feeding into, it's also feeding into, um, sort of a narrative that they're building on this show that Brynn is not producing, but she's being very self-aware of like how she's coming off, how others are coming off. Like she's being, I can't think of the right words, but she's aware of the cameras. And so we just saw that with Rebecca Minkoff, like this is what you're supposed to say in front of the camera. And she's telling Uba, hey, this is like, you're coming off this

way. Don't like, you should be careful about coming up this way when it's like, actually we just want people to be themselves, whether they're angry or not angry, just be themselves. And if people start calling Uba the angry black woman, that's on those people. That's not on Uba. Uba still has to act how she wants to act. Someone is like, oh, she's, she's, she's aggressive. She's threatening. Well, fuck those people because they're the ones who have work

to do, not Uber. Right. And I think that last year this kind of started because of the whole Aaron thing with the phone and all of that. And I think there's part, I think part of the subtext is Britain saying like, you know, after last year or whatever the reaction was from last year, I don't want you to feel like you're being called an angry black woman or to Brynn saying like, you know, after last year or whatever the reaction was from last year, I don't want you to feel like you're being called

an angry black woman or something. I mean, I do think there is like an element of that where she's, but it's like you're saying, she's talking about show stuff and she's bringing it in like you don't wanna be perceived this way. And it's like, well, you know, it's the people, the problem wasn't that she was an angry black woman is that she was being called an angry black woman when she just got pissed at

something that happened. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not the word angry. It's the, it's the, it's the suggestion that somebody is worse than other people for having emotions when you would never say that to any of the other people. You know what I mean? Exactly. Or the whole thing is like, people are using it as polices. Yeah. Like it's just crazy. Cause she referencing last season as if the problem was Uba and the problem was the the fact that she was called an angry black woman. It's not that she was actually

pissed off at something that actually happened. It's you know, so yeah I think right. This is this is a mess and I did not go on to Twitter but I can only imagine because I was like oh people are not happy with Brynn right now. They're not. So having the greatest season anyway. So this is just like, she's, this has got to be, Oh, this is not good girl. Yeah. So it was like, I love you, but English is not my first language. I'm just really passionate and when I'm speaking and someone, you know, and someone sidetracks me, I lose my shit. I'm, you know,

I'm getting mad at you. Like don't do that. You know, I love you. Don't do that. Please, please to me, it sounds condescending. So I'm begging you don't do that. You're a beautiful, amazing, incredible person. You're kind, but you're very condescending and you're condescending to everyone here. So don't do this. Don't. Yeah. And then so, uh, so she's like, I'm good.

Cause they're like, are you okay? It's like, no, I'm good. So she gets up and leaves and Brin says that she's like, this is driving me nuts. Like, I'm just looking out for you dumb ass. Like I'm trying to use logic. I mean, she's playing into the stereotype. That's what I'm trying to tell her. So in one ear out the other, because I'm convinced that there's nothing upstairs. Oh, God, she just makes it worse. I mean, what's bad is that was said in the confessional when she's even had time to think

about it. And it's still never literally no one told you anything. Like you just totally walked away with that had time to think about it. And then later like days or months later, still think this way. Oh, Lord. Well, the other thing is that like Ubo was saying too, like, by the way, like, I'm like, I don't call like I don't call you names. Like you come to me and I'm going to respond by calling you a name, right? Like, you know, you're disrespectful and condescending, you know, yeah,

I agree calling someone a snake and a liar is not a good thing. But you're not until you're condescending to me and I'm gonna and if you do it again, I'm gonna call someone a snake and a liar is not a good thing, but you're not until you're condescending to me and I'm going to, and if you do it again, I'm going to call you a snake again. And you know, and she goes, and I know what you're going to say. You're going to say, Oh, don't put, just don't put, you know, don't put disrespect to my name if you call me a snake. And Brynn's like, don't mock me. Don't mock me. And then fast forward to the part you're talking about.

And Brynn like does like a, does like a fake like Uber accident at some point or maybe it's not right here But maybe it's like she's done it ten times. Just like your monkey You know, she does that to her and stuff which is like and well, yeah She's a hypocrite and what Brynn is really getting clocked for is that she loves talking about But then when she is in the pot that is being stirred, or the pot has overflowed onto her lap, she is not happy about it. If you can't taste the stew, don't stir the pot.

Yeah. So, yeah, she's just blundering all over the place here. And so then they're like, Brienne, you okay? Cause she's like, I'm really over this group. Everyone's gonna stop this bullshit with me right now. Okay. The victim, the victim of her own bullshit. Here we go.

So Jen gets up, Jen, Jessel gets up to hug her. And she's like, No, I don't want a fucking hug. What I want is maybe for the second time now people do this shit. And you all sit there with a thumb up your ass not saying anything. Because you earned that. We expect people to say, Oh, my god, thank God, I didn't have to give up to get a hug. Give a hug. I'm so tired. I just want to go to sleep. So Brynn's like, I don't have to sit here and take this fucking

bullshit from people when I don't like shit. I leave. I tried to leave yesterday and I want to get the fuck out of here and I'm not happy with this shit and everyone needs to shut the fuck up. Everyone needs to stop. Everyone needs to get off my dick. I was like, okay, okay. You're a hero because you were a martyr because you stayed longer than you wanted. And Rebecca's like, guys, let's just get some fresh air and go for a walk, maybe pee in a bush.

And everyone's like, well, I'm sick of it. People, this is like, dumb. And that's the end of the episode. It's the end of the trip, the end of the trip. That's how it ended. Wow. And so we kind of see why things spiral to that finale that we've all seen clips of in the first episode.

It looks like it's not going to get better. Cause one thing Brynn cannot do is apologize sincerely. She's never done it. She's always, and she's not going to do it this time. And she really needs to, I mean, definitely now is a time where you need to like look within yourself and be like, ah, yeah, I was wrong. You know, fuck. I think, um, my note to the producers is,

uh, like the, like the last episode in this episode, if they had combined them into just one big episode, it would have been an absolutely amazing episode. But because I had to stretch it out over, maybe as a note to Bravo, they had combined them into just one big episode, it would have been an absolutely amazing episode. But because they had to stretch it out over, maybe as a note to Bravo, they had to stretch out over two episodes. I feel like this is, again, one of those situations where I'm like, I'm concerned that they have made an episode order that is too long for what the show can sustain. Like, let's go for shorter seasons where the drama can be stronger, you know, or the episodes can be stronger. That's my note. seasons where the drama can be stronger, or the episodes can be stronger.

That's my note to starting out the void. But at the same time, they kind of need to warm up too, because we're just only on the first few episodes. So we don't know where the season goes or if it's true, but it was kind of a tepid year last year. So they're just getting warmed up. So this was like what episode three or four? Yeah, it's only episode four.

And again, I've been liking the season more than last season. But I think if anything that Dubai showed us is that like, and even Potomac, you can have a rebound season and you can come out of the gates just really like great. So anyway, we're trying to wrap up no need for me to start like pontificating about what the show needs or doesn't need. You're right. We're only at four episodes in. And I mean, look, the show got us all talking. It's everyone's talking on Twitter about it. So I guess it's succeeding on that front.

Yeah. Most kind of positive kind of press anybody could ever want. But you know, hashtag Pavlova hashtag Pika Dio hashtag tennis camp, hashtag tennis camp. Hashtag tennis camp. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being with us. We'll talk to you next time. Bye.

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