Watch What Crappens - #2601 RHOC S18E16 Part Two: When the Brit Hits The Fan

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

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free right now by joining Wandery Plus. Well hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye, enjoy the show. Can I ask you a question?

This whole holding your knife and fork thing and never letting them go or never switching, I thought you were supposed to grab the fork with, okay. The knife is on your right-hand side, so you pick up the knife with your right, you pick up the fork with your left, you cut you hold the fork over whatever you're cutting cut with your right then you put the knife down and then you take the fork with your right hand and then you eat that's what i've always done but that's what i've thought that's what i thought

you were supposed to do i thought very american it's very american but like in europe the real sophisticated way is i think you do keep it on the left and then when you eat from the left, you take the fork, the fork is you sort of go down with the fork in your left hand and then you sort of bring it up. Like it's like, you don't, like I normally knife cut, knife is cutting on the right hand and then you put it down

and you put the fork into your right hand and you sort of hold it. I don't have an implement here, but like you sort of, you hold it sort of like, it sort of comes in like horizontal, it's sort of like, it comes in perpendicular to your face like this, right? But like when you do it-

Show me again, I wasn't looking. Show me again, it comes perpendicular to your- Like the fork would come in like this in your mouth, right? Like you pick it up and like it's coming in- With your left hand? Yeah, well, it can be the right hand. This is my right hand that I'm using. And so it's coming in with your left hand. Like, yeah, well, come with your right hand. This is my right hand that I'm using. And so it would come in like this.

I'm using my readers now to represent a fork here. This is my fork. You come in like this. It's like, it's, it's like a line going across your face, but when you keep it in your left hand, you, you stab it with the left hand, and then you bring it up almost vertically against your face and you're like that. Does that make sense? Yes.

Is it actually interesting? Is it actually interesting though? I mean, this etiquette, so how interesting can it be? But I was just curious because I thought someone just taught me the other way fairly recently, and I think it was a Housewives show actually. So I thought I got classified but I didn't. So I'm just upset with myself that I've been so ghost this whole time. Well like, American etiquette is like JV.

What about the people at Baja Flesh think of me? Yeah, no, we're talking about British etiquette. So this is like the big leagues. I am so caffeinated. I'm having the best time today. This episode is so good. So now the lady goes away to go talk shit with all her friends about like these stupid Americans that I had to actually teach, quote to quote,

teach if they were capable of ever learning anything. So she goes off and Heather's like, all right, I would like to air some grievances but I don't want to say that I want to air some grievances. So instead, let's go around the table and everyone pick their best and worst part of the day and get the ball rolling on that front. Thank you very much. Oh, you mean the pit and the peak? I thought it was the pit and the Pete. I, I Yeah, or like Rosenthorn is like classic Bravo analogy. I hate the pit and the pit

and the pit. I hate, you know what I hate about pit and peak? It should be peak and valley, not pit and peak. I hate that Gina says, yeah, peak and valley. I think she means to say the peach and pit, peach or the pit. What was your peach and what was the pit? Right? I don't think it's peach and whatever. Either way, whatever it is. I hate... Spelled backwards or some shit. I know. I hate it. What was your peak and what was your valley? Or Rosenthorn. That

is the Andy Cohen method. That's the classic. Yeah, the Rosenthorn. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. So what's next? So Ginny goes, well, okay, well, my pit was definitely having to wake up early because I had to help Emily call her here. And then she goes, wait, that was the pit?

Yeah, because like I would have had to slept, and my peak was seeing the girls, seeing the daughters. That was really nice. So Gina, since she's going first, she doesn't realize how how pity her pit can be. She doesn't realize that she's allowed to say, my pit was learning that you talk shit about me and that you mentioned this shit and that you violated me as a friend. So she's trying to keep it nice and cute to start. Yeah, she's like my pet with that hot dog not getting to eat it or it looks so good.

So then we go to, I've seen, we go to Tamra saying, you know, I think the fun part was today when we had caviar, that was so fun. Then I tried to get his eyes and then I swung back around and tried to engage in his daughter's life too. That was so fun. Yeah. back around and try to engage Katie's daughter's life too. That was so fun! Yeah, but how was Gina's... what? Wait, did Gina even say what her peak was? Oh, seeing the girls. Oh yeah, sorry. Um, you had Tamra... Yeah, and in my pit, it's probably having Jen come to my room and yell at me about something

that Shannon provoked. You know, Tamra, you know what, you know what, Tamra, I am done with your lies and I'm not explaining. Oh God, I gotta poop. I really gotta poop. It won't come though. Why would you even bother sitting? It's not a lie, you're a liar. I have a lot of text messages.

No, you called me and you asked me. You're lying. You're a liar and you're a drunk. I was like, this is turning into a rest of development, right? Like speaking of Julie Louis Dreyfus, like literally it was the Julie Louis Dreyfus episode, but I think it was where Lucille and Oscar were in the same room. And I was like, I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.

I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I was like, this is turning into a rest of development, right? Like speaking of Julie, the beach right this like literally it was the Julie, the beach right this episode. But I think it was where Lucille and Oscar were yelling at each other and Lucille's like,

you're you're high. You're drunk. And that's what these two are doing right here. Sounds like Christmas at my house. Geez. So, um, cameras like you don't remember anything you say. You're drunk. You're drunk. And because that is so tacky, Tamara.

That is so tacky to say to somebody when they're sober, she's waiting until she's drunk to say that. And she was like, no, you got to stop with the alcohol thing. It's hard journey. She's walking in a very on straight line on it. And that's, that's it. Oh my God. Her journey just crashed into a house. Shannon are you okay? You know what could you just stop bringing up the alcohol she's on her own journey she's gonna get from point A to point B to point C although in her case she has to recite it backwards but you know what I'm saying here. Shannon's like, can you stop, Tamara?

Why are you believing stupid, drunken drunk over there? Shannon's like, you know what? Because in the time that I've known Shannon, she's shown me more of a friendship than you have. And if I want to be left alone, I want you to leave me alone. I want you to leave Ryan alone. I want you to even drop the menu.

You don't even deserve the menu. Leave the menu alone, Tamara. I'm serious, Tamara. And I don't even deserve the menu. Leave the menu alone. And I don't want you to I don't even want you to order a special because guess what you're not special. Okay, you can settle it down. You know what 10 years ago I had a conversation. Timber. Have you said anything about Ryan this year? Have you talked about him being a bookie? Have you talked about a Ponzi scheme? You better fucking shut your mouth.

What's he gonna do put a hit on me which kind of goes to prove that Tamra doesn't believe anything she's saying because that is a legit fear isn't it I mean I don't think you should be coming after bookies like that. I have no idea, but the fact that this is, that it is legit fear again, supporting my thesis. This is one of the messiest episodes. We went from like, whose side do you want? An eight year old or 19 year olds to like, hey, be careful what you say because her boyfriend may kill you.

By the way, I want to give a belated, I want, I have to give bel belated I want I have to give belated props to Gina I come down so hard on Gina all the time. I'm so mean to Gina. But I thought it was actually really cool that she told Tamra, you know, you got to stop talking about the alcohol because it's not right because you know what she was absolutely correct about that it is it's really fucked up that camera keeps on doing that like it's, it's not it's really

not right. And it was cool that Gina stood up in that moment. And even when she talked to us,. She's like whatever. I just said it one time Oh you so you're so full of shit So then Heather's like you are not doing yourselves any favor by talking like that Tamar and she's like I apologize to Jen earlier Okay, I'm sorry. I had a conversation with my best friend back then I'm just gonna I'm not gonna have her go and turn everybody against me like she turned that car. She can't even turn the car.

You know what, she's not doing that. Am I against you? Is she against you? We are trying to get you to look at, to take responsibility for your side of things, that's all. Oh yeah? What would you like me to take responsibility for? You know what, Tamara?

I'm good, you can hit the road. I'm good. So we're good? No, we're not good. So when I said I'm good, it doesn't mean we're good. It's the exact opposite. It's opposite days. So when I'm guess what? We're not good. So we are good? No, guess what? Opposite day is over. So when I say we're not good, we're still not good. I'm saying shut your fucking mouth. Why is your mouth open? It's opposite day. God damn it. I can't even play this game with you. Don't you understand? I don't understand.

Is it opposite? Is it opposite? Is it not opposite day? It's opposite day in California, but since we're in London, the opposite day is over. Okay? Time zones, bitch. So Heather's like, wow, Jim's impressive. Never seen that.

So then Shanna's like, well well i think that i'm wiped out i'm alcohol camera you're gonna go there camera okay there i am stay quiet i thought it was the house i got wiped out by a cabbage so and he's like i am doing the non-poop dance send the don't poop your pants dance that's what i'm doing so shannon's like i'm nearly gonna faint. Oh god, we're all so tired. We need to go to bed. We have an early day tomorrow and I'm hoping, fingers crossed, that someone can stick something into my butthole so I can poop. So let's get a good night's sleep

and we're gonna go to the countryside tomorrow where we can say tap of the morning to you. Ciao. Jim's like, I could fall face first to my pasta or you could eat it. Eat the pasta. Why do you still have that much left on your plate? I'm trying to stand you here. Everybody goes to bed and then Katie and Jen go back to their room. Katie's like, God, do you really just want to sit there and listen to her yell and scream? She's like, no, I've already had my fair share. Then Katie's like, wow,

this group of women is not for the week. I mean, it's wind on the 18th course trying to get a hole in two. What I'm saying, rough times out there. Pun intended. So Jen is like, she's like, you know, she is throwing allegations at Ryan that are unacceptable and damaging to my family. And Katie's like, Oh, thank God my family hasn't been damaged by any allegations, right? Everything's fine over on my end. And you know what?

You know, you looked so fucking hot telling her how you felt, you really did. And- And over at Heather and Tamara's place, Heather's pouring some champagne and she's like, so are we doing this or are we having a glass of wine downstairs? I have glass here, never know when they're going to get drunk.

Run over. And then back in Shannon's room, she's talking to Emily, and Emily has a big pomegranate half. And she's like, did you see this? And she arranges it like a carrot, like with a dick and balls next to Shannon. And she's like, are those the size of Travis's balls? I'm trying, girls. I'm really trying. By the way, who puts pomegranate halves or just has pomegranates

anywhere even close to a whole bunch of white bedsheets? What is wrong with this lady? Sometimes I sometimes I do not understand Emily's thoughts. You know, Emily has grown on me quite a bit. But the moment you bring a leaky ass pomegranate near some white linens, you're going to lose me. She doesn't care. She doesn't have to clean it. And that's the Malina nutshell, buddy. So they start joking about how Travis's balls get really big when they're full of spermatozoa.

And Shannon's like, is that true? She goes, I don't know. I think so. But they're huge. They're huge. So Shannon's like, you know, this has goes, I don't know. I think so, but they're huge, they're huge. So Shannon's like, you know, this has been so fun and lighthearted. Let's talk about how more I've been victimized tonight. Ladies, she's like, oh God, okay. It is really cool. It has been so cool.

It has been so hurtful. Want to release? You should squeeze a pomegranate. You know what? I do want to release, but I don't want to squeeze an avataromegranate. You know what, I do want to release, but I don't want to squeeze an avatar for Travis's balls. I just want to say that I can't tell you how grateful I am for both of your assistants.

When you two ambled on to our little show so many years ago and I thought, what are these two accountants doing here? And they're like, you're not accountants. And I said, really? Cause they are just about as interesting as they are. And they said, don't be, don't be like that. They're your new cast mates. I said, you got to be kidding me.

These are not our cast mates. And then you, you stayed season after season after season. And I thought, what are they still doing here? I couldn't believe it. And I said, I just don't want to talk to these women ever in my life. But it turns out that when you lose all your friends, you two really step up to the plate.

And I just have to say thank you for being people I can talk to and not truly respect, but for right now have communications with. Thank you so much. You two are like lettuce in a fridge. I never wanna eat it, but when there's absolutely nothing else, I look at it and I put it on a plate

and I think, I really want this. And then I ordered McDonald's from DoorDash. I forgot what we were talking about, but thanks for being here, ladies. You're like the can of chickpeas in the back of the cupboard. And I say, well, I should have a healthy dinner. I can always have those chickpeas. But then there's always something more fun to eat. But then eventually, eventually you get around to those chickpeas and you realize these were actually pretty good. And to that, ladies, tonight you are not just chickpeas. You are garbanzos.

Welcome. So in the other room, Heather's like, Okay, now listen, you need to talk to Jen, Tamara. You need to do it the right way and say I'm sorry and not scream and call people drunks. And Tamara's like, Okay, for the opportunity I think I will. She goes, Okay, I'm glad we talked about that. Because can I tell you something else? I was jumping out of my skin. I did not look at Katie was tonight. I

mean, go Rose. Kobe, she does like a little basketball. So Heather's like, and you know what? It involves all the kids. It's fucking messy. I'm not gonna give a shit about it. It's Shannon's trip. She's excited. We're gonna have a nice day tomorrow. Because you know what?

The last thing I wanna do is ruin Shannon's birthday, which is exactly why I'm gonna pull her to the side in the middle of her birthday celebration and get her very agitated. Call her a liar. So then. So then we go back to Shannon and she's like, Oh God, and the shit that Tamara brought up, really, really, really, Tamara, really, really?

Well, I'm not going to walk on edge shells anymore. I've had this conversation before and Gina said, well, keep my distance because I don't know what she would do coming after me. Well, is she going to go into Travis's divorce shit and bring that stuff up too? And almost on cue, we go back to Tamra saying, and I bet you want to hear about this, Heather. Shannon called me before last year, right before the reunion said you need to get Taylor Armstrong's husband involved. He's an attorney and we need to find out if Gina pushed Travis down the stairs. I'm telling you, this episode has everything. So, Tamara gets, and I remember this because this is like one of those headlines that sort

of circulated into our podcast now and then, like, isn't there a story about Gina pushing Travis down the stairs? So, Tamara gets... Yeah, you never get answers for it, but it's such a fascinating story. It's like, is that why she, and that was the talk at the time was like, is that why she quit drinking because it got so violent over there that she pushed him down the stairs? Like, what is going on over there? And the best part is OCE has been on long enough that this is the second,

did someone push someone down the stairs rumor that's been on the show. The first Kelly and her mother. Yes, Kelly and her mother. And although I don't think that one was ever I don't think that was true. Oh, you don't think it was true? No, I don't think so. I just think it's funny that this is a rumor that's like, what is this? Like the Dolores Claiborne cast.

So Tamra's like that there was an article that came out. Shannon asked John, can you dig this information up? Sit this legal papers? And Taylor ended up calling Shannon and said, John doesn't do stuff like this. And also, I know billionaires. And then Shannon said, well, that's very nice. That has nothing to do with what I'm asking about.

You know any billionaires? Do you know any billionaires that do this? That'd be great. And that's when she contacted Elon Musk and asked him, that's the game she ended up pushing Travis down the stairs, Pat. So we see the headline, Orange County's Gina Kirshenheiter accused of pushing boyfriend Travis down the stairs during a fight by his ex and putting kids in constant fear

as he files police reports. Yeah, yikes. My gosh. Heather goes, that happened? And Tamara's like, yeah, Shannon mentioned a couple of times. So now we go back to Gina and Shannon and Emily. And Gina's like, you know what, I said, Tamara,

you have to understand when you do something like this, I am not worried that you would do this to someone else, myself included. And Heather's like, let me go to Heather. Are you gonna tell Gina? And Tamara's like, I me go to Heather, are you gonna tell Gina? And Chyna's like, I don't want to hurt Gina, but she was dancing with the devil. She should know, this is what you're dealing with, this is your good friend, that Gina. It's a public service, Nazmy bitch.

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I had a dream and then the dream, I was being victimized. And I woke up and I realized it's not a dream. It's not a dream. It's not a dream. Am I awake right now? Why am I so hurt? You're awake. Ouch.

I thought I was dreaming that I would actually wake up in the morning and be happy to see Emily Simpson, but I guess it's just a waking nightmare. So we see. So, Shannon. I just saw undressed iceberg. Thanks for being here, Emily. Oh, Titanic makes so much more sense.

Iceberg straight ahead. So now we have an inception moment because we get a flashback to the previous night because Shannon's saying that she's annoyed with Heather. So flashback to the previous night. Emily and Gina are telling Shannon that Heather told the whole group about the conversation in Sonoma that Shannon and Heather had.

And then we get, as our note taker Nadine says, a flashback within a flashback. So now we're in level two of our inception and we see Heather saying, gather around ladies, actress speaking. In Sonoma, Shannon told me that she believes that John heard the crash. She showed me her text messages.

She gave me a timeline, how it's impossible for him not to have heard the crash. And everyone's like, oh. And then we come back to the initial level one flashback and Shannon's like, are you kidding me? And then we come back to present and Shannon's like, are you kidding me? I'm gonna just table this so we can enjoy

the rest of the trip that has been horrible for me. So then now they're all in the Sprinter van and they're gonna do the separate tours kind of thing. The first van is Emily, Tamara and Heather. So Emily's like, I don't like to sit on the inside. Hey, can we see Winter Castle? Are we gonna take a tour? I just wanna see what it's like to poop there.

Now the other women get into Sprinter van and Shannon's like, you guys I just had a really major stomach pain. Is it cramped? You feel bad? She's like, yes I do feel bad. Wow it's so bad I'm saying bad. And Kate is like, well you know it does come in waves. Like my personality. Give me a thing. Oh sorry about that. Say it again. I was just self dissing myself. I said it comes in waves, like my personality. Oh, I'm glad we paused for that. That was funny. Okay. Shannon, Shannon, pull my finger. Okay, I'm pulling it.

I didn't fart. Can you fart? Let me pull your finger. Oh, oh, ow, ow. I'm being onset arthritis. Thank you very much Gina. So they then she's like, she's nauseous. So they're like, you know what? She's like, I have to, I need to go upstairs. So she goes weeping into back into the hotel. I just think I can't, I can't do this. Oh God. Hello, etiquette lady. I'm just just think I can't, I can't do this. Oh God, hello, etiquette lady. I'm just crying because I haven't shit in five days. Okay, okay, take me to my room. Give me that. The etiquette lady is packing her boxes

because she's been fired. She was like, when you administer an enema, please keep it in your left hand and keep it in your left hand. She's like, the pain hit the pain. I mean, then they just shoot it up and then you go right. It goes right away. And so then it's been three days since Shannon's last poop. I wish we got that as a chiron on the screen. Three days since Shannon's last poop.

I know. Where's where's David Bedor's finger when you need it? So I know the one thing that man was good for removing emotional debris from an anal canal. That's right. So Shannon's like, Oh my god, I'm so fucking embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed. I mean, Shannon, why didn't you bring your little portable colonoscopy? Well, not colon cleaning thing, whatever it was, not a colonoscopy. But so now the other women have arrived in Windsor, which is outside of London, and they're walking around like, oh my God, this is so cute. And then they're like, they decide to do an Abbey Road kind of thing. They're like, excuse me, British Alfredo, could you take a photo of

us? We're going to pretend like we are workers on a street. It's like, no, it's Abbey Road, it's the Beatles. I don't know who those are, but it's going to be a fun photo. They asked him if she knows who the Beatles are. She's like, yeah, I know the Beatles. The stupid small octopus. Squash him. Sometimes it smell bad. Sometimes you can go up to him. They start rolling up into a little ball, try and run away from you

and say, you're not going to get away from me. It's a little beetle. Squash him anyway. Those are rolling police. ran away from me and say, you're not going to get away from me. Squash him anyway. Those are Rolly police. Yeah, but there's John Lennon, it's Ringo Starr, Elton John, Adam Levine, the lead singer from Creed. Who else? I don't know. So

which is that Elton John? What an absolute dope. I know. So they take pictures. I also, for some reason, I thought this was very amusing to me. This was so Heather. They walk, but there's some swans, swans are the Heather DeBros of birds we all know. And, uh, these kids are throwing bread at the swans And Heather walks up to the children and goes, oh, that's cute. Where'd you get the bread?

And the kid's like, you can have the bread if you want. Thank you so much. I wish there was a camera closeup because you know when Heather said, where did you get the bread? Her eyes turned black and she looked into their souls like, take the bread, take the bread. We're gonna go.

I think she's like, where did you get the bread so I can report it to the police? I also love that. That these ladies are so carb adverse they don't even understand the concept of where one would even get bread. Where does one buy bread in a town? Where does one buy bread in a town? Mother, we saw a scary old lady at the swan pond. Please mother, hug me. Please take our bread. So then she was, oh, look, donuts.

Let's get a donut. And I was like, you're not gonna eat a donut. Shut up. So true. I love, I love the Heather Dubrow trying to be relatable scenes where she's like, look at me wanting bread and donuts with humans, we are on a street. Ah, you know, I never made my Syracuse University dream

of having an all female version of Les Miserables come true, but me taking this bread from a child is about as close as I'll get to Jean Valjean. 20601, am I right? So then, back with Gina and Katie, they're waiting for, now this is also the second time we've watched someone get an enema on camera. Actually, the third, because the first was Shannon with her emotional debris in the bathroom when David had to stick his finger up her butt. And then we got Jen last season when Shannon was coming out with her own enema and she wanted she wanted She wanted that whole thing figured out and then this one. So is that three or we had more?

I feel like we've actually probably had we can give an honor we can give an honorary one to Reza and MJ for Sticking tubes up their butts and I mean on this show. I an honor, we can give an honorary one to Reza and MJ for sticking tubes up their butts and I know I'm just giving them an honorary one. I also, by the way, for some reason, something that drove me nuts was when they were walking around town, going back to that for one second, when Tamara looks at Windsor Castle, I guess, when the castle who lives there, like it's the whole reason why you're going there. It's where the Royals live, you dumb fuck. How are you walking around in Windsor not know what's going on?

Like, why? Don't you understand? That's why you're there. Yeah. It's sad. I don't even have anything to add. I'm so outraged. I called her a dumb fuck.

Of all the things Tamra has done, this is the thing that broke me. So the other girls are doing an enema and Katie's like, I got to say, it's not the first time I've not only brought enemas to a friend, but I've also, oh no, this is the first time I've brought enemas to a friend and also I've also, oh no, this is the first time I've brought enemas to a friend and also offered to administer them. And Shannon's like, I think I got it all up. I got it all up. They're like, okay, great. Thanks for the update. Oh God. Oh God. Oh God. Achoo. Okay. It came out. It all came out. So we go from sweet go from her pooping out her hole to the ladies eating donuts, which was not lost on me. And so eating their

donuts and then they sit on some benches and Emily's like, okay, so Gina told me that you had a conversation about the thing that has to do with my children and that has to do with Katie. And now we have a flashback to Jean be like, Oh my God. Like I actually like it was actually kind of bad. Like Tamer brought up the incident with Kelly, baby. When Kelly babysat your kids and Heather was like really upset when she told her. And like Heather started to cry.

And by started to cry, she started to throw glassware at workers, which is her version of crying. It was so sad. I felt so bad. Are you real man? Stop with the cat in the hat shit. I'm really distraught. Sorry. So Emily Bessie is like, I was never gonna bring this up. She's just gonna let it be which is what it should have been. And but now she's like, you know, she said that the boy Oh, sorry, we go to Heather and she's like, you know, she said that the boy, oh, sorry, we go to Heather.

And she goes like, you know, she said, the boy said something like, oh, how horrible Heather is. Heather is so scary. If I were holding a loaf of bread, I would just give it to Heather just to get out of her face. I mean, I don't know what the kids use this. I don't think they said that. Well, they also said, you know,

even though she's an award-winning, fantastic, amazing actress who we admire greatly. Well, they definitely didn't say that. Hey! Sorry. But look, I don't talk about the children material in front of my children, and I would never talk about you negatively in front of my children. Oh, bullshit.

Every mother comes home and goes, you know what? You know who's a real bitch? Heather. Heather really fucked it up today. I'm going to kill her. And you're not hanging out with her daughter either that little slut. I am like so fucking upset. She's like, No, my kids didn't say that like, and what and for some reason they did. Why would

they repeat something to little boy said when your daughter was babysitting them, which is that's sort of a fair point too. So Heather's like, she's like, I just find it so incredibly disturbing. Isn't it odd that Katie has some connection here? It feels inky. So- Yeah, but also you're an asshole.

You know what I mean? Like, is it so crazy that someone says Heather is mean? Is this your first time ever hearing that you're mean, Heather? You're literally mean. Everybody knows you're mean. Your husband, just go back to two episodes ago where Terry is like, it takes 10 times to apologize to you the first time, then the second time, then the third time. Do not admonish me. You're mean. Everybody knows you're mean. Stop crying like it's new news. Okay? We will adjudicate this later.

So Emily is, no, Emily's pissed. And she's also pissed because it's also implying that Emily was talking shit in front of her kids and that that makes her a shitty parent. And she also feels like her boys are being thrown under the bus. And she's now also being put into position where she like now had like, like where it's an issue. It's like, but Tamara is the one who really put this out front, right? So, even though Katie does not off the hook, Katie deserves some blame too. But Heather's like, you know what?

That is a planted bullshit story to try to attack my character. And even though, you know, I am a very good character actress, I don't want my character to be attacked. So you know what? She fucked with the wrong Marine, which was a character I once auditioned for on CBS. Unfortunately, I did not get onto the NCIS, but it was a lovely experience,

and the producer said they would love to have me in the future. Oh. So then back with the hotel, Shannon poops. So she's like, I did it. They're like, whoa, yay. So then back to Heather. She goes, okay, let's talk turkey.

And Emily's like, okay, well, I got a text from Gina. Shannon got so sick. She didn't animal. But now she pooped. Tamara's like, oh yeah, she probably did. She probably knew what she did was wrong and there was going to be some retaliation. And I was like, what?

And she goes, Gina. Oh, what has to do with Gina? Is it bad? Oh, it's not good. Six months ago, Shannon was digging up some information to bring up at the reunion. So she contacted Taylor's husband John He's an attorney to see if there's any legal information about Travis Travis's ex-wife and you know

I was gonna be just smoking guns and bring it on to the reunion bitch. It was awful Wait a minute that's fucked up cuz that has to do with their children like this had to do with my children Do you see what I'm saying? It's all fucked up. Okay. Well, her stepdad has to do with that. As a mother, her relationship, all wrong things. So what's the goal? To win? I honestly wasn't listening. Once it was off me, I didn't really care anymore. Heather, why is this a big deal? The kid said, we heard that Heather's mean. Emily didn't like you at the time. You were being mean to Emily at the time. So why is this something

you need to cry over and have huge revenge over? I just don't understand why this is like, oh my God, children said I'm mean. You know who probably all said that? Every checker out or ever of any store that you've ever been to any driver. Okay. Any hitchhiker who you've probably thrown a diet coke can at their head as you back Richard Marks. So they they all gather for a Sunday roast. They're all they're all meeting in like a pub before a Sunday roast. And they sit down, both groups are together. Shannon's not there just yet because she's recovering from her explosive enema situation. And so they sit down and Gina goes to the bathroom and all of a sudden it's like, all of a sudden,

everyone just hears Gina in the restaurant. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, what is that noise? I feel man, I feel man, I feel man. What is that noise? Hahtong, hahtong, hahtong, hahtong, hahtong. And she comes out, she's like, oh my God, I thought the flusha, I thought it was the flusha, so I pulled on it and it was a viral worm. I can't, I can't.

I thought this is the weirdest toilet. Ring. I wonder why her real estate deal went down. And over here is the primary bedroom. She breaks a window. Oh my god. I thought it was clear. I was opening a door.

So Gina's like, so did you get my text message, Sheenan? I mean, Timra? Because Sheenan got so sick. She needed to go upstairs. She was in so much pain. She goes, oh really? Does she have the flu or what oh wow oh shannon some random like flu flu death oh gosh what the flu so shannon comes on comes in with that happy fragile smile of hers like hello

So Shannon comes in with that happy, fragile smile of hers. Like, hello. Sorry about that. I had to do an NMI. I didn't want to do it yesterday because today's my birthday. So it's my favorite way to celebrate. Anyway, that's everything over here. It's nothing like abdominal pain to celebrate another year income.

Oh, yes, you have a boy and a girl. Actually, I have twins, and they're already too good to speak to their mother. So that's that's great. It's so nice that we're celebrating my birthday here in this pub. Last time I went to a pub for my birthday David Bador ordered me food that had a sugary sauce on it. So thank you. Thank you everyone for that call back. I'd like to thank everyone here for not respecting my dietary choices. Okay Let's get to it

so they order their food and Um shannon's like so what did you guys do today? Was it fun? I'm sure there was nothing awful that was talked about and emily was like we walked around, you know We fed swan stole bread from children, you know things like that, you know And by the way, it's thanks to the palace right now Jesus Oh my god the king is here kid is like what is there a power do you think he would be where where would he normally be you guys

my using Harry Potter and in the West End. So Heather is like, yes, because the flag is up. That's also what we do when Richard Marx is in the basement of our house. So Tamara is, just to let Daisy know where he is. Oh my God. So then now they're talking about, Shannon's like, well, I was just talking about that.

Are you annoyed, Shannon? Well, I'm so sorry. No, it's okay. It's hard to sit in the middle, but I was wondering if you're upset about something, because now she's like facing away from Heather. Yeah, she's facing away from her. And she's like, oh, well, do you want to talk? Can we talk just sure. Should I take my drink? No, I guess.

I don't know what sort of outrageous requests we're gonna be making. But apparently, if you want to hear drink, you can take your drink. So did you want me to take it? Jesus Christ. So they hit their head outside. and meanwhile, Jen, they're all like, what's happening? So they sit down outside and Shannon's they have blankets. They have blankets that they wrap. It's cold outside that blankets that they have wrapped and Jenna

goes, Is this washed? I didn't even pick up on it. Is this blanket washed? I don't know. Well, what's going this blanket washed? I was like, I don't know. Well, what's going on? Oh, well, I spoke to Emily and Gina last night. When we got back to our room, when I was in Sonoma, it was a big decision for me to come and talk to you privately on camera for America. And when we first got together, we said we're going to build trust. And I thought this was the perfect person for me to talk to.

And I came to you. And you know what's upsetting is that like you know I showed you this photo of me and then the girls told me that that night when I went up to my room you sat there and you told the entire group the whole story and I just I don't understand you know like how could you sit there and tell the entire group should I respond now that's Heather like Heather always wonders why she comes off as an asshole or I imagine she does and it's like it's because of this when someone's explaining to you what their beef is and you say

You should say got it. I totally understand not like is it my turn? my line Well, I find this all a little bullshitty. First of all, I don't remember you saying don't repeat this. And then we see a flashback to Shannon going, I don't want other people knowing. Please, whatever you do, please don't tell anyone. I beg you. I beg you.

This will not go to the group. Don't you worry. Actors pledge. So Heather's the whole thing is like, listen, I had already heard the story. So I thought this was like public, you know, which I think is like still not. I don't I don't think it really works that way. You know, Yeah. And I think she's also like, you said it on camera, Shannon, like everybody's gonna know I think she's also like, you said it on camera, Shannon,

like everybody's going to know anyway. It's not like it was some real secret. It was a TV secret. Okay. You were telling me cause you wanted, cause before she was saying, I feel used, right? She's saying, you told me that, which made me feel used. Implying that Shannon only told her that because she wanted her to bring it up on camera.

But now her argument is, but you never told me it was a secret anyway. So that's why I did it. So which is it Heather? It's a flimsy case on Heather's part. I do. And so Shannon is just like, you know, like, I, you know, like, you know, I thought like that night, well, then Shannon also starts to lean into it. She goes, you know what, I didn't feel any compassion for me either. I thought that night you would come up to me and say, are you okay? Are you okay? Do you want to cry again? And have us like, I was so worried for you. Are you out of your mind? Don't say that. But I wasn't, you didn't ask me if I was okay.

That's bullshit. Well, I feel like this is a big spin job. And I'll tell you, when I heard you on Jeff Lewis, I thought you're controlling your narrative. That's what you do. You did it years ago when David had cheated on you and you didn't want to bring it up with everyone. Let me wave my hand dismissively at you. And here it all comes. Well, I was trying to save my back.

Ow, ow, ow. What are you doing? Are you throwing bread at me? Sorry, I got to use up this loaf. I stole some from children today and I have to do something with it. Are you serious, Heather? Yes, well, listen, you dripped out information when you want to drip it and when it's convenient for you.

That's how you did it with David. I mean, and she tells us, we all knew David was having an affair and I was gonna blow up her family on television. But now that it's blown up, you know, may as well swirl around a few ashes. Who cares? So now we get in the way back machine go, we are going 10 years back to air out the garage. So we go to the pivotal

scene, where Shannon is yelling at Heather and if actually the people remember this, this season, it was Tamara who had actually people remember this this season it was Tamra who had actually stirred up all this shit I mean Heather had a that was a terrible season for Heather too she was really a villain that season but Tamra had stirred up all this shit with about Shannon's marriage she had gone and told everyone and Heather fell for it and then Heather took took the whole fall but we now have this whole thing where Shadens yelling at Heather for sending

some sort of email or whatever it was for spreading gossip that David's been having an affair. Yeah. And so yeah, and Vicky too. Wasn't Vicky kind of part of that too? It was they I don't remember because I think actually Vicky and Shannon were friends that season. But I think I remember Tamra and Tamra and Heather were working together and Tamra was really awful to Shannon, which is why it was so shocking the next season that Shannon became like really close with Tamra.

And remained close with her for many years. Yeah. So then Heather's like, I don't want to be a part of this. And now Shannon's made me a part of this. And now Shannon's made me a part of this and now I'm irritated. And so then this is, is this back to real life for the flashback? Yeah, back to present. Yeah, back to present. Okay.

So Gina's, so then back with the other girls, Tamara's like, I was up all night long because I was upset. And I thought, oh, Shannon's motivation. It was to turn Jenna against me. Gina's like, listen, I'll be honest. I think Shannon owes you an apology too. She does. Like, well, you're such a flip-flopper.

Yeah. And Tamara's like, well, Gina, if I tell you Shannon dug up information about you and consulted an attorney to find out if you threw shit Travis down the stairs, would you be upset about that? Like she says it so seriously. She says it very slowly and seriously because you don't really know where the sentence is going. Um, well, did that happen? Tamra? Did it happen? I mean, what are you doing? Timber? If you're going to say something, just

what happened? And she goes, yeah, yeah. That's why said, it's stupid. What do you think it was? Just a, a, a, a, a, a hypothetical. And so Gina's like, Oh, sorry, go ahead. Yeah. No, I was gonna say Gina basically says like, you know, Travis's ex is a terrible person and telling lies and, and says that this basically saying this all came from like the X, the story can be X as a whole lie. And she says that she, that the X told bloggers that Gina beat up Travis, threw him down the stairs. And this is this is why she's really separated her home. I think it's because she said she was like, I don't want to be accused of beating you up and throwing down the stairs. I'm going to be in a physically separate place from you. And I cannot be accused

of this anymore. I'm I'm yeah honestly that's what she means by that. Yeah. Because this lady is, I guess, crazy and trying to ruin everything, you know? So then Tamara goes to Gina and she goes to her side of the table and she's like, I'm only telling you this because you schooled me all day long. You're the right thing with Jen. You shouldn't have done that. But you said something to me that really hurt my feelings You said how do I know you're not gonna dig up information on me? Well, I'm not gonna dig up information on you different sharing will and that's who dug up information about you pushing Travis down the stairs She didn't dig it up. It was something that was in the blogs already. She put it in the blogs

She read the blogs and said oh my god, what's going on with this shit? But she but she wanted to know she wants to get information like if there was any court filings or whatever that she was going to bring up, you know, like she was good because remember, she and Shannon and Gina were beefing about like child protective services. So this was going to be Shannon's way of getting back. But but amazingly and she didn't do it She didn't and but amazingly Gina does not fall for this tactic Gina sees through it and sees what what what Tamra trying to do and she's actually more disgusted that

Tamra would air this on the show to try to court Gina and Gina against Shannon then she is about whatever Shannon may or may not have done. So Gina is actually really, really turned off by this. Yeah, and she's like, yeah, Shannon tried to come in between me and Jane cause she knew where to get to Spanish. You know what? Like it's like your collateral damage in their situation. And we was like, well, we all, well, so are you now.

She was like, yeah, so am I. And this is all about you and Shannon, these conversations. I know, cause they're both evil and they're like, so what are now. Gina's like, yeah, so am I. And this is all about you and Shannon, these conversations. I know, because they're both evil. And they're like, so what are we supposed to do? You're both just gonna, you've both been evil and you're both gonna stay evil. Like, why aren't we even in this, you know?

Just be evil together and leave us out of it. Gina was surprisingly sharp in this episode. You know, I shat on Gina all last episode. I was really anti-Gina, but I have to give her props. She was really on the ball this time around. See, so the pendulum swings and you know, I'm like actually like good for you Gina. So Shannon and Heather walk back inside because they're basically like, because, because Heather basically says to Shannon like, look, I did not think this was a private thing. And I apologize for breaking your trust. Do you accept my apology?

I love how angry she is when she apologizes. She's like, yeah, it's fine. It's just it's freezing. And I don't know if it's the weather or just your personality, but I need to get some warmth. So then they go back inside and Gina goes, well, I'm pissed. I'm pissed, Tamara, but I'm pissed at you for not telling me in the first place. Gina goes, well, I'm pissed. I'm pissed, Tamara, but I'm pissed at you for not telling me in the first place. And I'm like, Oh my God, I told you she's telling me at the end, but it's complicated, you know? And now we have a problem, Shannon.

She goes, Oh God, what is it? What is it? May I pick my one more time before I even have a salad? She told me that you were trying to dig up information about Travis. She goes, um, who? Uh, I'm not familiar. We were trying to dig up information about Travis. She goes, um, who? Travis. I'm not familiar. Rami?

Travis, is that like, Randy Travis? Are you talking about Nancy? Nancy Travis? She's very good, very talented actress. She doesn't even know what you're talking about. Oh, oh, with Taylor's husband? She goes, yeah, there was a with Taylor, with Taylor's husband. She was Yeah, there was a text message this song about it shows Oh my god, Tamara,

you're so involved in that. You're the one who told me the story. Then Tamara tells us when the article came out in June of 2022. I wasn't even in this group. Shannon was not speaking to me when this information came out. So how could I even tell Shannon batch? And then how would you have known? Then why would she have asked? Oh, because she asked Taylor and Taylor told Tamara. Okay. I see.

Or maybe Tamara talked about it on the podcast and Shannon, who knows? So I mean, their relationship, I think we've always known they've had a toxic relationship, but this episode is really exposing just how fucked up their friendship is. It's fascinating. So, John's like, Blame me, blame me. You know what? Happy birthday to me.

My gift that I would like to receive from all of you is blame. Just blame me. No, honestly, I actually really like that. I would be really upset if I didn't get blamed for something on my birthday. I'm so fucking tired of you lying about me. Day four of my fucking trip. Tamara Judge is calling me a liar again. Well, guess what?

I'm going home now. Walks out again. Is there been an episode that Shannon has not walked out? I'm cracking up. So she's like, stop it. And Taylor says, or Tamara's like, I smacked the table on the phone last night. She confirmed it all and started wasp parole.

Okay, you know what? Stop. Stop. And Kitty is like, has there ever been a dinner with this group of women? That's been pleasant. So it's crying, laughing, crying, laughing, FBI. Like FBI gets thrown in like an emotion. So she was like, I don't deserve this.

Jen doesn't deserve this. Travis doesn't deserve this. Ryan doesn't deserve this. Hot dogs don't deserve this. Jen doesn't deserve this. Travis doesn't deserve this. Ryan doesn't deserve this. Hot dogs don't deserve this. This gotta stop here. I don't want to hear it ever again." She was like, oh, what the fuck kind of person are you panning me out to be? My purpose in bringing it up to her, number one, was to clear my name that you're the one who investigates everybody. Get your face the fuck away from me. Oh, what are you gonna do? Hit me? Oh, God. Wow. Tamara going for she's like, I want my trailer moment. Let's do a trailer moment. Let's both stand up and rattle some glasses will be in the trailer. Everyone's gonna love it.

Shannon. And I'm like, twice in an episode, the first one was what are you gonna do? Send a hitman after me. What are you gonna do? Hit me? Tamara's just always was, what are you gonna do? Send a hitman after me. And now I'm saying, what are you gonna do? Hit me? Tamara's just always like, what are you gonna do, huh? So Tamara's like, oh yeah, you did it to interrupt our friendship because you knew exactly what you were doing. Oh, and what did you do at Katie's party?

And Katie's like, you said ask Jen and Ryan about the FBI. So we see a flashback of Tamara saying like, ask her about the FBI, bitch. So Tamara goes, I apologize. Shanna goes, but that's what you do, Tamara. You get super drunk and you say a bunch of shit and then you say, I'm sorry. Look how I turned the tables of drunkenness on you.

Can we show the shot of Eddie staring at you while you were drinking? No? Okay, we'll just wait for later Oh, yeah, well at least I didn't rub my car into a house What is this episode So Shannon goes like you hurt people when you do that And I was also just walking Archie and a a robot took over my car and it was unfortunate

But it is just a statement about modern technology Gosh, so then Jen's like, this girl doesn't even know how to be a friend. And then the server holds up a chocolate birthday cake and there's candles there, they're lighting the candles and getting ready to come out. And Gina's like, everyone's acting like a fucking toddler. Yeah, I'm out. I'll take an Uber or an U-Wear, whatever they call them here. Fucking out of here.

Don't bring children into this. No, I said like fucking toddlers, not toddlers specifically. So Shannon storms. Oh my God, thank God, because I think I just heard those toddlers say Heather Dubrow's mean. How dare you? Stop saying that, Drake may be watching. So Shannon's like, I am done with this.

So she storms out and then the servers come out with a birthday cake. Shannon is exiting the front door. They're like, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to the American. Oh God, Shannon's missing her cake. And Shannon goes, me walking out at this door, that is gross. Shannon's missing her cake. Shana laughs. And Shannon goes, me walking out at this door, that is gross. It is also exactly what I've been doing for Tim.

But I will just call it griff. She's gonna say you literally do it every episode. And Tim is like, I'll take the cake. Happy birthday to me, bitches. And then she blows her bitch 19 all over it so nobody can eat it in peace. It is like, like that was a breathless episode. That was scene after scene after scene, like the dirt they were digging up.

It was wild. I couldn't believe it. It was, that's gonna go down. That should be a Hall of Fame episode for both Orange County and Bravo. Yeah, fantastic season. Alright everybody, thanks so much for being here. You want the videos, we're on Patreon.

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