Watch What Crappens - #2621 RHOC S18E19 Reunion 2: A Star Was Born (?)

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

The Real Housewives of Orange County delivers the second part of its three part reunion. Will Emily, Tamra and Gina fall even flatter on their faces or will there be some redemption tonight? ...Only one way to find out. Oh also, Alexis Smellino shows up and tries to convince us that she’s been a star on television for 15 years. Watch this recap as a video and get all of our bonus episodes including our Sold on SLC Trailer Trash over at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Go to constantcontact.ca for your free trial. constantcontact.ca Well hello everybody and welcome to What's What Crapins? The podcast for all the crap that we love to talk about. On ye ol' braves, I'm Rondel, Rondel Caron. I'm with a good man, A man named Benoons. Benoony Vontoony Mandelker. Hello, Benjamin. How are you today? I'm great, thanks. That is my government name,
Starting point is 00:01:31 so thank you for finally addressing me as such. I appreciate it. I'm great. I'm like truly great today. Benoony loves his boonies, Mandelker, Mandelker. Everybody loves him, Mandelker. Um, how are you doing? What's going on today with ya? Mandelker, everybody loves him, Mandelker. How are you doing? What's going on today with you? I am fantastic.
Starting point is 00:01:55 You know, I really enjoyed last night's installment of the Real Housewives of Orange County reunion, which we're about to talk about. And I'm just excited that it's Friday and I'm excited for the weekend. I'm excited for Thanksgiving coming up. I'm just happy. I'm a happy little beaver over here. You're a blessed bitch. That's what you are. You are a blessed bitch. And I'm wearing my Laura Dern shirt. There's my Laura Dern. I'm wearing the Laura Dern shirt.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Oh, I love it. You know, we love Laura Dern on this show. Well, I am glad you're having that. I'm having a great day too. I'm just feeling very blessed as that. I'm having a great day too. I'm just feeling very blessed as well. I'm feeling super positive and we're going to have a very LA day to day because we're like doing our podcast. First of all, I mean, I guess that's not LA specific thing.
Starting point is 00:02:36 No, it's pretty LA already. We have mics. So we're like doing that. We're doing something fun and creative. So that's fun. And then we're going to lunch with our agent at in Beverly Hills. It's very LA. That could not, you're just really escalated the LA-ness of the statement. Yeah. Yeah, and it's so LA today.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And you know, that's not me. I'm not like, hey, I'm meeting you for lunch in Bev Hills. That's just not me. I don't get the opportunity to do that. So it's like super LA. It's like a field trip, you know, I'm so excited and I could be like, yeah, what's the biz like? Like what's going on at the biz? Um, yeah, listen, it's just, it's a tie in for next week's premiere of Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So like, we're just getting, it's his, the season got to visit the mothership, the mother, the mother neighborhood. And then today I'm doing the show from my couch desk. And that means that I'm in kind of a different background, and the door behind me is reflective. And so there's two giant palm trees above my head and the door reflection on the show today. So I'm having like super Hollywood day.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Like, hey guys, eating fingernails for lunch. Thank you. Call me agent if you have anything to say about it. Sorry, she'll be busy. Find me lunch in Palm Hill. Oh my God, this squirrel just had a really Hollywood day too because it jumped from a roof to a tree to another tree over there.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's having a very like action pack. You ghost squirrel, it was badass. You know what's so funny about you recording with palm trees in the background and how that's so LA. You know what? All this time you've been seeing me record from an office, but the truth is I've actually been recording from like atop a seaside community in Southern California.
Starting point is 00:04:21 So it's been very LA for me too, turns out. Yeah, you've got a whole city below you there. Heather's view there. I am floating. I am floating above Orange County. So you're so right. This is such a SoCal day. Okay, so let's get into it. Oh, by the way, gifting season is coming up because it's the holy days. Okay, which we now call the holidays because we want to take the Lord holy days. Okay. Which we now call the holidays
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Starting point is 00:05:17 We're totally doing porn. I'm going to be playing with my muffin top here every day and showing you how I hide M and M's inside of my belly. But that was a that was a family feud category that I saw this week, which is things that you could hide under your man boobs. They literally had that as a category. Uh huh. And one of them and one of them snacks, pencil, I think wallet. I don't remember. There was it had like seven or eight different answers. It was one of those big ones. That's some funny shit. All right, everybody. Just do that if you want Patreon. It's easier now. It's easy, simplified, one monthly fee. And that's where our bonuses are.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Okay, so now let's get to Real Housewives of Orange County reunion part two. What an episode. It was okay. It was a little calmer than last week, which was good because I was foaming at the mouth last week. I feel much better, I've had a gook off to reflect and accept that there's just evil in the world. And what are you gonna do about it? You know what I mean? What are you gonna fucking do about it?
Starting point is 00:06:19 So I'm just kind of accepting of it. And the evil tried to calm down today, right? Yeah, today was a... This was a more chill episode, but I found it to be extremely funny. It was like nice not getting all, like, whipped up into a frenzy over, you know, and having to say things like,
Starting point is 00:06:37 I can't believe she would bring up this thing about custody, yada, yada, yada. Everyone was talking about it all week. Oh, my God, I'm really in custody. But then this week, we got into sort of like like lighter fare and I was just able to laugh at everything. And I don't know, I don't, I cannot explain, I cannot explain to you the depth to which Heather DeBrow makes me laugh. I know people just hate her, but she's so mean that I just, everything she does, I am like guffawing on the sofa. Every single time she puts her hand,
Starting point is 00:07:03 like she's throwing an invisible dart, you know, I just laugh all of her things, and they're gonna come up throughout the entire episode, and I'm just gonna, ugh, I just, I just, like every eye roll, she's just so cold, it cracks me up, I don't, I can't explain it. I believe that she is Satan's tool. I believe she's a demon, a monster, a soul sucker, a...
Starting point is 00:07:30 But a historical friend. And just an all around awful, soul sucking monster of a person. So, you know, I'm coming into this with a positive attitude today. But I do like her on the show and I don't think she should be fired. Um, you know, I do rail against her and call her a hypocrite cause she is, but you know what part of the fun of these shows is to have something to root against. And I think she's great to root against cause she really is delusional and she thinks she's a good person. And it's so funny watching her eyes literally turn black. I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:04 they do it every time. They literally, after all these years, we used to joke that she looks just like Coraline's mom when she turns evil. And just after all of these years, that that is still so true that her eyes literally turn black and she just gets so villainous and monstrous, and I'm just enjoying it. I feel like she's really leaning into it more now. And I say, you be you, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:25 And if you're horrible, just be fucking horrible. Don't go to therapy and learn ways to talk to everybody so we can think you're less horrible, even though on the inside you're horrible. Just be who you are so we all fucking know to avoid you if we can't handle horrible people. Some of us can handle horrible people. Look at me, I have friends.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Oh, Ronnie. So we start off now with, um, we're still in this, like, discussion about Ryan and his scandal. And Shannon's like, Emily, if he, if she's saying, if Jan is saying that the only part that Ryan had is that his name was on the account and what's the big deal? Which, by the way, I still maintain that if that,
Starting point is 00:09:02 if that is all that you are part of with this scandal, that's still a big fucking deal. Your name is on an account that all of a sudden received $16 million as part of a scam. I'm sorry. That's not just a like, oh, that's just nothing. It's like leaving a sock in a car. No, no, that's a big deal. You know, I mean, I agree. And it's like, why is this so frustrating for me when something like Erika Girardi,
Starting point is 00:09:29 I'm like, nail him to the cross, all of them, you know? Um, I think it's because this one didn't really harm anybody, like, poor or old. You know what I mean? Like, Jen Shaw's stuff was, she had like real horrible victim, like, really good victims, I mean. HE LAUGHS Sorry, all really good victims, I mean. I'm sorry. All those senior citizens, fuck them, take their money. Those morons should have answered the phone
Starting point is 00:09:51 in their first place. Scam likely is not a person, you dumb old troll. No, I don't mean that. I just mean she had really sweet victims, like old people and stuff, and innocent people. And then Erica Girardi and Tom Girardi, Tom Girardi specifically as victims were sad people. They were victims in horrible, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:09 accidents and stuff. He was stealing their money. But this guy stole from like a sports guy. And I mean, he didn't steal. Allegedly, he was moving money around for some gambling and stuff like that, which is, you know, I guess it's illegal, but it's also adults doing adult things
Starting point is 00:10:24 and they're consenting adults. So go for it. Like, I guess it's illegal, but it's also adults doing adult things and they're consenting adults. So go for it. Like, I don't think he hurt anybody. And also it's not Emily's fucking business. I'm just sick of Emily. I'm just sick of her. I think the concern is more like, hey Jen, be careful because you could get sucked into, you could, you could get sucked into something bad or this might be further indication that Ryan lies and maybe be cheating on you, you know, like, like his... The truthiness of the things he says is sometimes in question, and the fact that he is now, you know, implicated in the scandal is not great.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Um, so, and with... Well, that's true, but I will say, they, that is like this iteration of these... Because they pivoted. The evil side of the couch, Emily, Tamara, and Heather have pivoted today. And now they're making it like, Jen, we're doing this because we care. No, you don't. And you spent the whole season
Starting point is 00:11:15 calling her stupid, and, Emily specifically, calling her stupid and reading her for filth, and calling every single outfit she wore out. So So you're an asshole, you do not have her best interest in mind and the audience hates your ass now. And so now you're pivoting and trying to make it sound like you love her, but I'm not buying that lady. Okay, I've seen you and your Jojo Siwa hair is gonna pull your damn scalp off and you're not tricking anybody. So just put your hair down because
Starting point is 00:11:41 you're making me uncomfortable at this point. Like you look like you have a plastic bag over your face and someone's trying to kidnap you and like choke you out But why are you doing that to yourself? Stop it untie your tail. You're gonna have brain damage telling you right now It's going in a strange direction. So Emily is Emily so tight. Yeah, she's pulled so tight. Are you talking about Emily? Her hair is pulled so tight. Yeah, she's like, ah, it looks like someone put a dry cleaning bag over her face and they're like trying to drag her backwards. Just stop it, you know, stop tight.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I don't know what trick you're trying to pull with pulling your hair back so tight, but it's not- How could you say that? I worked so hard and now you're saying, I was like, I'm wearing a bag. This comes from my mother. This is my childhood drop. So Emily is like, she's like, that's the opposite of everything I've read though. Look at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You've got nothing for nothing. For the life of the Gina. You're nothing for nothing for the life of Gina. So she's like, I just would have more- Gina's never gonna escape this podcast. We have Jen who literally cannot afford like tic tacs and we're still like, give me it all to Gina. So Emily is like, look, I just would have more respect
Starting point is 00:12:59 for you and Ryan if you just said, you know what? He's made some bad choices, but he's gonna be on the straight and narrow. Well, what if we said that about you marrying Shane? You know, I don't think you'd appreciate that, even though it's what we all think. So Jen is like, -"Well, I don't know anything." -"But also, as a lawyer,
Starting point is 00:13:13 Emily should know that it's not wise for someone to come out and say, "'Oh, my boyfriend who might be in trouble with the FBI and got immunity for all this stuff.'" Yeah, my boyfriend makes terrible criminal choices and he's a criminal. Emily, you're right to satisfy you, Emily. She's going to get her boyfriend thrown in prison. Fuck off. You know that that's terrible, terrible advice and she can't do that.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, it's like Emily, you know, you know that Ryan has made some bad choices and he's going to be on the street now going forward. So why do you need why do you need Jen to be the one to say it? Because you know that Jen feels this way too, and she doesn't want to add her boyfriend on TV. So Jen's like, I don't owe you that because he hasn't. And Emily's like, but you always do this. Fine. He has made bad choices, but he loves the paint on the denim. I can't help it. That's his choice. And she's like, well, you always do this tell me why not thing where you're going to stand by your man, but you've got to be accountable.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Accountable for what? She didn't do anything. If you want him to be accountable, question him like you did. And he stayed calm and answered all your questions. Probably with lies, but you've already had your moment with him. Leave her alone. You know what, Katie?
Starting point is 00:14:24 You said that your husband mad at her engagement party sat in the corner because he was worried because he didn't want to be around those gay guys or the gays probably. Katie's like, well, he was worried. He Yeah, he was worried. Mainly because everyone was talking above a whisper and that's like not normal for him coming from the world of golf. Pretty much. She kind of did say that because she actually does.
Starting point is 00:14:47 She was like, Oh yeah, he couldn't be around that. He's in the golf world. Yeah. Now it works in golf. Yeah. He can't be. No, no, he can't be around a bookie. No, he works in golf. He works in golf. Maybe she was alluding to the fact that like a sports bookie and someone who works in the sports commentator might be a bad look, but I just love the idea. I'm just gonna say that from now on. Excuse me, sir. Um, can I interest you in this
Starting point is 00:15:16 deal? No, I'm sorry. I work in golf. Oh my god, is that nudity on television? I'm so sorry that I just don't work on Oh, did my camera just do something? Okay. No, it doesn't. It doesn't work in golf. By the way, I'm sorry. We're gonna have a 10 hour recap
Starting point is 00:15:32 cause I'm really my ADDs out of control today. But look what Ben and I discovered. I have this new camera and I was playing with my waddle before the show because I have a new mic set up here. And so I'm hiding my waddle like I have a waddle because I lost weight and so, and I'm older. So I'm getting a waddle.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It's fine. I'm going to take care of it. But I was playing with it. And so I was trying to make, I was trying to make my waddle go behind the mic, right? It's like hiding behind a plant when you're pregnant. And so I was like, well, maybe I could just like squeeze my, squeeze my waddle.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And then I was grabbing it and look, the camera's moving moving but it's not doing it like it was before. No you're doing a different thing. No you're doing it incorrectly. You have to hold it with your hand down. No your hand, your arm has to come from below not from the side. You're not doing it the same way.
Starting point is 00:16:15 You're like this. You have to do it like this. Damn it. I can't recreate it. No you just. Well whatever you see this is See, this is so awkward. I made it awkward. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry to everyone listening.
Starting point is 00:16:29 We work in golf. You have to understand. By the way, if you thought you were hiding off... Oh, look, I just did it. If you thought that you were hiding from your camera when you coughed, you are incorrect because that camera followed you. That camera's like, oh, you want to put me on blast? I'm putting you on blast, coffer. The cameras is really funny.
Starting point is 00:16:50 This is why people should watch this on video, because the amount of things that happen on Ronnie's screen at any given episode, whether it's Bueller or now this camera. That shit is funny. That's tricky, man. The future is now that's cameras following me everywhere. Anyway, I was playing with my waddle and then it was giving me different camera angles every time I played. What happened was Ronnie, Ronnie was like just he was like he made this like fist motion. He was sort of like sitting here with his fist like on his cheek.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And that is like some visual cue to the camera to pan out or to zoom out. So the camera just zooms out and then it zoomed right back in again. Like you were watching some sort of like Robert Altman movie. Hilarious. You had to be there. And unfortunately, it was only us who were working off cameras. Aren't they great? Cameras, the future. My God. So then Katie's like, yeah, I wish I could have spent three hours hiding as well. And so then Jim is kind of talking over and she's like, oh yeah, I just felt so bad about that. I just felt so bad when he was hiding.
Starting point is 00:17:52 He was hiding that whole time. I didn't know that. I really didn't know that. I just feel so bad. And so, and just like, Katie, as you've gotten closer to Jen and Ryan, do you believe he was involved in any wrongdoing? She goes, you know, I don't actually. He explained it at length and turns out I got bored faster than when Matt talks about
Starting point is 00:18:16 someone hitting an eagle on the golf course. So I just, I just tuned out and I figured if he was doing anything wrong, I probably would have kept my attention at some point, But no, I think he's OK. Heather's like, listen here, Jen. It's me, human being Heather Dubrow. I just wanted to tell you, I think that all of us here, all of us, every single person here, we just want the best for you.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And we don't want you to be with a criminal monster, which you probably are. And we are very worried. And Katie's like, I don't feel like that. OK, well,, which you probably are. And we are very worried. And Katie's like, I don't feel like that. OK, well, maybe not. I'm not speaking for all of us. OK, maybe maybe it's not all of us. God, fuck this lady. Anyway, human being back to human being here.
Starting point is 00:18:55 We care. Look at me. Would you like to sit on my lap? Please don't really do it. Do not have permission. Jen, all I am trying to say as television's Heather Dubrow is that it killed me to see you with this guy knowing that he is probably a criminal and the money he spent on that dress you couldn't afford
Starting point is 00:19:20 could have been spent on a Susan Bender slack suit. Just saying. I even would have written size 12 down on it just to make Emily cry. So then, um, and these are gems like, you know what, Heather, thank you so much. Thank you so much for saying that, Heather. But guys, I can promise you, I can promise all of you, every single one of you here. Nothing's coming Ryan's way. Nothing. Ryan is completely innocent of all charges,
Starting point is 00:19:51 and not slimy at all. And the hair on his head is completely real. And any paint splatters you see on his jacket are natural. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you for listening. Still speaking, still speaking, my turn. I was just saying that we care about you, even though I'm not sure I've ever met you before. Are you new here?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Have Jen and Heather really ever actually interacted? I feel like Heather does not even know who Jen is. Like, there's sometimes, like, like, you have to imagine that during that scene in London, when Jen came in and screamed at Tamara, Heather was like, wow, I can't believe they haven't fired that PA yet. Like, I feel like she does not truly acknowledge Jen
Starting point is 00:20:27 as a castmate. I think she probably walks in and she's like, hello, Tamara, why haven't you called me back? My name's not Tamara. You're hilarious. So anyway. They look so much alike. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:39 They're so similar types, just like white blonde ladies, you know? It's time for a commercial. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crap in commercial I'm Lindsey Graham host of Wondery show American scandal. We bring to life some of the biggest controversies in US history presidential lies environmental disasters corporate fraud in our latest series Entrepreneur Lou Perlman becomes the mastermind behind two of the biggest pop groups in the world, the Backstreet Boys and NSYNC. He also oversees a sprawling business
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Starting point is 00:22:18 Whenever she said, I don't have a quote in front of me. And they did not play it here, which kind of stuff did cause a lawsuit. But she had a very credible story. Very credible story. Very camera. It was not even close to being the truth. Here's her very credible story. Oh yeah, well, that season is this. It's actually a very funny story. So I was like doing some press earlier that day, batch. I was doing like so much press and I just kept them bringing up the fact that like Ryan was saying that Eddie was unemployed and he was in a dude all these things and I was like well guess what batch
Starting point is 00:22:46 I see but the business makes my money in a year then he's taken from a Dodger player, bitch I'm like lies, but anyway, so anyway I was trying to say that I'm watching happens live and I totally butchered it because what I meant to say is our business is Doing really well and what I said instead was rants are cheated is a criminal and you be scared, and you should be scared. And I just came out all wrong, you know? I didn't even remember sayin' it. I didn't know, but then Eddie said that I did. And I said, did I? What?
Starting point is 00:23:14 But Eddie said that I did. I said, oh my God, what? She's so full of it. And I like that they showed the cease and desist to being served on her doormat, which is really funny, because you have to serve the person. That's something that's come up in Housewives. Well, this show with Katie, they're like,
Starting point is 00:23:30 you can't serve a system to see. Wait, why did no one bring that up actually? Because Emily last week was screaming at Katie saying, if you were served, then you had to be there to accept it. Your husband wouldn't have been able to accept it for you. And I'm a lawyer and I know everything. But now this week, we see that Tamara was served assistant... Assess and assist. I know the actual word.
Starting point is 00:23:51 But she was served as assistant assist, and they just left it on her fucking doormat. So, doesn't that just disqualify Emily's argument from last week? Does anyone care anymore besides me? Probably not. But, um... I'm sorry, I work in golf. I don't understand these things. But anyway, we see it served,
Starting point is 00:24:10 and it's on one of those fucking checkerboard doormats. Because she's one of those. She's like, Oh, my God, look, I have the teapot, the Mackenzie's child teacup teapot. And I have the Mackenzie's child, uh, doormat. I even have a child microwave, but that one doesn't talk to me anymore. I'm very stressed about it. My Mackenzie's Child microwave tried to erase me, man.
Starting point is 00:24:33 She said... I already feel bad for all the people who are going to receive Mackenzie Child's gifts this holiday season. Like, I just feel bad for them. I feel bad. Um... Especially listening to this show, because they're probably like, I finally got my Mackenzie's child I've been wanting forever.
Starting point is 00:24:51 We're like, fucking Mackenzie's child is stupid. We haven't talked about it in four years. So like new listeners probably think we're totally on board. But little do they realize fucking hate Mackenzie Childs. And then what happened with this, what always happens as people then message back, actually, they'll look at my Mackenzie Childs. And then what happens, this is what always happens as people then message, they're like, actually though, look at my Mackenzie Childs. It's pretty cute. You have to admit.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And I'm always like, yeah, no, that is cute. But secretly I'm like, nope. Nope. Nope. They're all, none of them are good. Yeah, one of my friends who was just really close. She's a really close family friend. I just love this lady, Cindy.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Hi Cindy. Love her. And she is so into Mackenzie's child. And I don't have the heart to tell her how stupid it is. And so every birthday I just buy her a Mackenzie's child thing, because that's like her thing. That's what she loves. And so now it's just become this thing where every year
Starting point is 00:25:35 I'm hunting down Mackenzie's child. And I'm like, this is my karma for making fun of this shit for so long. Now every year I have to go out and I have to immerse myself in that world. What does she have? What does she already have? What does she not have? What could she use? It's a personality this year. Mackenzie, Mackenzie, Mackenzie. No, I rebuke all of it. So anyway, Tamara's like, Yes, I retract my statement. And another, and another thing is I apologize,
Starting point is 00:26:05 you know, cause I did repeat something that I heard on the streets, which is that his house was raided by the FBI and I 100% misspoke. So once again, I'm just going to say to America that Ryan's house was not raided by the FBI. It did not, he was absolutely not raided by the FBI whatsoever. Oh, and Jem's like, yeah, you know what, Tamara?
Starting point is 00:26:28 When you say these things, they affect people. They affect people, Tamara. So thank you for saying something about that. She goes, I respect that, and I apologize. I'm so, so sorry. I can't believe I said the man was rated by the FBI because he stole money from a baseball player. Oh, I'm sorry, baby. I won't believe I said that Ryan was braving by the FBI because he stole money from a baseball player. Oh, I'm gonna have to get my pay.
Starting point is 00:26:49 All right, well, Tamara, Abby from Eating Good in the Neighborhood said that you and Jen seem to be in a good place heading into Katie's dinner party. What made you turn on her so quickly? Ronnie, is there a butterfly in your house. Why do you keep staring at the ceiling? I quit. I'm gonna have to quit my job. I quit the job. What happened?
Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm just like, I quit. Hello. It's just Heather at your door. Hello. This is television's Heather Dubrow. I've heard you recently called me soulless and I'd like to remind you that you might want to meet someone who's truly soulless like Wendy Malik. Just imagine that's Heather Dubrow knocking on your door. It's like a vampire movie. Don't let them hear. They're actually throwing the roof today but I didn't know it was going to involve that. What are they doing?
Starting point is 00:27:40 Stop! They're not going to be putting on the shingles like a set of stamps on an envelope. There's going to be some banging. Like literally the roofers are known for taking a little hammer. Like if you imagine a roof or you imagine a person on a roof with a hammer going boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. But they've literally been doing it since seven this morning. Why is it right when we start recording that the hammering literally right above my head
Starting point is 00:28:03 starts? No, honestly, it really is. It's really funny if like when you're podcasting, if we hear that knocking in the background, if we honestly just imagine as Heather Dubrow trying to like get into your house to clarify something, excuse me, I'd like to clarify. What you said was my turn. I'm talking. Okay, well, I'm talking.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Okay, well, I'm gonna have Christina mix the audio today from my local mic and then mix it in so I can at least mute out when I'm not talking. Excuse me. So anyway, so why? I'm sorry, this is almost over, I promise you. No, it's okay. I feel like you're the one who's most pressed by it. I think we're all on board. We're all okay with it, right?
Starting point is 00:28:50 I'm mortified. I'm usually kind of a professional. Like, maybe I should be hiding in the closet. I just didn't know it was gonna literally be above my head right now. I guess I shouldn't put two and two together. But it's above me, it's below me, it's around me, it's outside the window, it's always somewhere. Please just finish soon. I love you. I love you. I don't want you to leave Jose. I love you. I me, it's outside the window. It's always somewhere. Please just finish soon. I love you. I love you. I don't want you to leave, Jose.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I love you. I love what you bring to the world. You bring so much to me. So much to the world. But go. Now's the time to fly. Fly, Jose. Fly away. He stopped. I think it worked. I don't know why you would ever send Alfredo away when you can be a perfectly good ballet as well. Hey, wait, his truck's leaving. Who the fuck told you to leave? So the question from this girl Abby is like, hey, you know, it seemed like you and Jen,
Starting point is 00:29:38 Tamra, you and Jen seem to be good. So like, what made you turn on her so quickly? Well, I didn't really turn on her. My frustration was with Ryan because it just it just it wasn't just the podcast batch. It was what he was doing in social media. He was saying that Eddie was gay. He was saying that I'm his beard. And then we see that Ryan did say these things. He wrote something like, Oh, Tamra has no storyline. And what about her marriage? Wait, is that what we're calling it? Hashtag beard. Yeah, but you were also coming for him all season.
Starting point is 00:30:11 You know, I mean, it's not great to call anybody gay, but you know, I mean, it's Tamra. It's like, you're so satanic to sit up here like you're such a victim is hilarious. Like, he was hurting Eddie. I can't believe he caught me up being of Eddie. Oh, for Christ's sake. Okay, well, I guess that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:28 worse than you like going after him all year for, you know. Listen, we still remember Tamara going after Gretchen and accusing Gretchen of cheating on her dying husband. So, you know, I mean, Tamara sort of started the ball rolling with the doubting, doubting the quality of people's relationships. Yeah. Yeah. I will hold a grudge from 14 years ago. I love the pettiness of that. Just the historical pettiness of it. She's a historical friend.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So Andy's like, um, yeah. And he's like, well, he did say that he made a comment because your marriage is a sham and that you don't have real love. And she's like, oh, yeah, we don't have real love. That's what he said. That's what he said. Everybody would have to that. Can you believe that? Me and Andy and Jen said, well, you just have to understand that, Tamara, at some point,
Starting point is 00:31:27 people have the right to stand up to you and your mouth goes, Yeah, stand up to me. Don't go out to my husband. You're going after hers. That's exactly what this is all about is you're going after hers. You fucking hypocrite. You're literally in a fight about going after her husband and now crying because he went after yours. Let's not forget also that Eddie also got the ball rolling last season when he walked up to someone who was like, yeah, someone came up to me and said, watch out for that dude, Ryan.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So Jen's like, well, then keep Eddie out of it. He was saying things to saying he's a cheater. Were you faithful to Simon? Were you faithful to your first husband? So does Eddie feel that way about you? Tim was like, no,, he doesn't feel that way about me. And that's not the point. Oh, so you can be changed, but Ryan can't? That is such a good burn from Jen, because no one has said it. And Tamara's been coming for people for years,
Starting point is 00:32:18 and people have had enough respect for Tamara to leave that out of it, because Simon seems so gross on the show, that back then, we were like, Tamara, run! You know what I mean? And I'm glad she did. for Tamra to leave that out of it. Because Simon seems so gross on the show that, you know, back then, we were like, Tamra, run! You know what I mean? And I'm glad she did. But the fact is, well, I shouldn't say the fact because I don't know facts.
Starting point is 00:32:33 But it looks like Tamra was cheating with Eddie who worked for Simon before she left Simon. So for her to be so judgmental about an affair and leaving your family and breaking up a family or whatever, I mean... You know, pot pot girl, you need to check the other line because the kettle's been calling you. Okay. Answer it. Yeah. So Tamra's like, Eddie doesn't even get involved in the show stuff, which is not true. Okay. Okay. Okay. Everyone. Okay. Katie, what was your reaction to Tamara that night at your dinner?
Starting point is 00:33:08 Well, she was emotional. I think it was the first time that Ryan and Eddie were seeing each other since all that happened with the podcast. And I know people were very confused why Matt was walking around with a colander on his head pretending like he was just a piece of kitchen stuff, but he was just trying to hide from dangerous people. He works in golf. He's very scared. Very scared. Well, I know that I've already been a hypocrite about coming after people's spouses, but I don't like them coming after my spouses and coming after people's children. When we're about to go after somebody's child for about half an hour and go pretty hard on her, call her stupid slut and stuff. What can they call her? I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:33:47 But I'm about to take this moment to be a hypocrite about this part, okay? I was so plastered. Yes, it's the season I'm calling Shannon an alcoholic, a dirty, dirty alcoholic. I was just so plastered, I don't remember nothing. I mean, I don't remember nothing, I just woke up. Like, she makes it sound like being plastered happened to her. And there's... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Like, she's the victim of being plastered. Girl, you've been throwing Shannon under the bus this whole season, and now everything you did, you're gonna chalk up to you being plastered. Yeah. Oh, well, so then where did Eddie sleep that night? She goes, -♪ When he sleep in my bed, bitch! -♪
Starting point is 00:34:22 She goes, -♪ Did he? That's not what I heard. -♪ And he's like, -♪ well, what did you hear? I heard you slept in the casita and he wouldn't even sleep with you all night. And Tim was like, well, I don't know how that works. My daughter lives in the casita. And Jen's like, well, he didn't sleep with you. He slept somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And then Gina's like, yeah, cause you know, I came over to your house the next thing and I think you said that. And then it's just like right there on camera, Tamra basically saying like, yeah, Eddie slept in here last night. Well, and it's also Gina just being so messy, but Gina's really smartened up, and she's just come to this reunion like,
Starting point is 00:34:55 I'm just happy Gina. Nothing I didn't meant anything. I'm just happy Gina. And so she's just so sweet and forgivable. You know what I mean? Even I'm like, Gina's adorable. Yeah. So then Tamra's like, I'm happy, Gina. And so she's just so sweet and forgivable. You know what I mean? Even I'm like, Gina's adorable. Yeah. So then Tamra's like,
Starting point is 00:35:10 okay, well, I don't know, maybe he slept on the couch. Okay, Jen, you and Tamra were so hard on your friendship, why didn't you let her show you proof that it was Shannon who allegedly initiated the background check on Ryan? Andy, I just didn't care. Just didn't care. And she was like, you know, fuck Tamra. Like Tamra keeps saying she loves me. She's sorry. She wants to move forward.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And the difference with Shannon, Andy, is Shannon says, I'm sorry, top of the morning to you, which whatever that means, am I right? But she says top of the morning to you and that's nice. And, you know, she says she won't do it again and she'll work on herself. And then she literally shows up with a new wig and a new face.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And that's how I know she's telling the people that she's not she says she won't do it again and she'll work on herself. And then she literally shows up with a new wig and a new face. And that's how I know she's telling the truth. Shannon, thank you so much. I love the rectangle on your head today. I don't know how you're doing that. I don't know if there's a shoe box under your wig today, but I just love it. I'd love rectangle hair. Thank you. I'm hoping it compliments my breast breast shelf which has fallen out of whack again. Thanks very much, Pamela. So then Emily is like, well, yeah, well, Shannon owned it because I yelled at her outside the restaurant in London. So we see unseen footage of Emily being like,
Starting point is 00:36:16 you're saying that I'm defending myself but in the process you're fucking everyone else over Shannon. She goes, I guess I see your point. I absolutely do but Emily, I don't think you realize I'm trying to actually store them out right now and not have a discussion with you. So tap in the morning to you. Bye. And she's like, well, don't take credit for me taking responsibility for something. Say, because you never want to take responsibility.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Why are you yelling? Why are you always yelling at everybody? It doesn't even have anything to do with you, Emily. Jesus. I would have said I would have I would have apologized. I would have apologized on my own. I'm telling you, I would have apologized on my own. I would have seen I would have seen Jen and I would have said, Jen, how do you do? And I think she would have understood that as an apology. And we would have moved forward from that point
Starting point is 00:37:07 and so then Shannon's like I would have done it on my own and she goes, oh And then Tamra says like oh my god, I can't believe everybody's fighting like this is crazy Everyone's having a chat about it And then he's like, yeah, it was really, really difficult to watch. When I say difficult to watch, it was amazing. God, I love when women torture each other. So good.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I just wonder, what was it like watching for you, Tamer? Tamer's like, it was horrible. It was just so horrible. And then we see flashback to London. You're the one that investigates everybody. It was so horrible. It was so hard. It's so hard to see myself in that state.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Cut to Tamara like burnt to a crisp after her procedure. I'm like, it can get worse. With some precognizance. Get your face the fuck away from me. And she's like, what are you gonna do? Hit me, hit me again. And now we're back. And Emily's like, well, it was horrible for us too. Everything was horrible.
Starting point is 00:38:14 What about us? What about Emily? Emily, you don't do anything. Just be quiet. Andy, I got on a plane and I left. He's like, yeah, I know because otherwise you'd still be in London. Well, I know, but like, I'm saying I left at that moment because in a huff, I got on that plane and I said,
Starting point is 00:38:31 excuse me, I would like some champagne, please. They could really tell I was agitated. And so Andy's like, okay, well, Tamara, it seemed like in the finale that you were gloating. Was that what you were doing? Did it seem like that? She literally whipped out an FBI hat, put it on her head and said,
Starting point is 00:38:50 nanny, nanny, boo boo, bitch. I'm right. Like, when does it stop with you, Tamara? Everyone feels like they'd rather be on your side than be against you. Oh, okay, yeah, so you guys are like, not my friends, by the way, is that what you're trying to say?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Excuse me. After the reunion last year, we had a talk and I go, listen, Tamra, we are friends, okay? I am an actress who's been on television and you are a fan and this relationship works well for us. Let me sign an autograph for you. And that's what we did. So it works.
Starting point is 00:39:25 We are actual friends. Wait a minute. I asked you at that lunch. I said, is that really your girlfriend, Heather? Is that your friend? Is that someone who's really your girlfriend? And I told you exactly what I am now. I am an award-winning actor.
Starting point is 00:39:37 No, you said she's a historical friend. I did not. I did not. What? What? Ah. Ah. No, you called it historical. Pass me in traffic if you're going to be like that. Pass me in traffic. By the way, she is an historical friend, which speaks to how old she is. She's so old. She's been around since they had
Starting point is 00:40:01 treaties about different countries in the 19th century, but that has nothing to do with anything. It just speaks to her age. She's been around so long, people used to actually use an historical friend when they said that. That just never sounds right to me. The A-N in front of no, I, I believe it's an A, A historical. She is so old. I think it's supposed to be an historical. I've heard that before.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I just don't, I just, I don't care if it's proper or not. It just bugs me. It doesn't sound right. But by the way, she is a historical friend. Well, and I understand that, but you pause because all I'm saying to you is, and don't try, my turn. Don't try to talk shit. Don't try to my turn. Don't try to talk shit. Don't try to shit talk that, Jen.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And she does it like she gets her face in that disgusted black eye. She's like, don't talk shit like that. And Jen's like, I'm not, but you said that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was Brynn doing Uber. Right. I'm an actress, thank you very much. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:41:07 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, she paused and I said, is that really what you would say that this is one of your girlfriends? And you said, Tamara's a historical friend. By the way, I do not talk like that. I'm like, you literally just said, Tamara's a historical friend. We just had a discussion about your use of Ann versus A.
Starting point is 00:41:37 You absolutely talk like that. And what's even better is that Jen does a perfect imitation of her. She says, I asked you if you were friends and you said, ah, she's a historical friend. She even did. I was like, wow, she's telling the truth. Cause that was fun.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Commercials, here comes one right now. I do not talk like that, okay? And Jen's like, Heather, I'm not making it up. I mean, you know I would never be able to come up with the phrase historical friend on my own. That's fair. That's fair. What is she, France with Benjamin Franklin?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Moses? Who? What I was just trying to say is that she is the dome in the teapot dome scandal. That's it. Okay, well, you know, I'm just trying to say at what point because I'm trying to understand here this common thread that nobody's thinking of and Tamera's like, don't speak for other people. Don't speak for other people. Emily doesn't want you to speak for other people. Gina doesn't like it when you speak for other people. Just speak for other people. Emily doesn't want you to speak for other people. Gina doesn't like it when you speak for other people. Okay? Do you ever feel like you ever say too much? Do you ever feel like you go too low? Do you
Starting point is 00:42:51 ever feel like sometimes there's no one in life who cares for you? Well, guess what? You should get O'Tezla. What are you talking about? I don't know. I just started to move into a medical commercial. Do you ever feel like somebody's watching you? Yes. Me too. commercial. Do you ever feel like somebody's watching you? Yes. You too. Well, TV show, bitch. Oh, so, Tamara, somebody's watching you.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Tamara's like, I'm not the only one here. I'm not the only one who has that this year. My right. When they ask for a show, my right. It's work. It's work. It's like Tamara's typical thing. Like, it's not just me. Tamra, you are the worst. Everybody knows it. I mean, people who don't even watch this shit, they'd say, who's the meanest of all of the Housewives? And they'd probably show a possum on top of the trash can.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Girl, we all know it's you. But what's so funny, the reason why Tamra cracks me up is that, like, she just has her... you. But what's so funny, the reason why Tamara cracks me up is that like she just has her her playbook is always the same and she just always goes to it and it always works. It's hilarious because Gina's like, you know, you're definitely fierce. And I don't mean in like the fashion way, like when we piss you off, you throw random and terms like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:04 She like does that that pivot like, no, I agree with you. You can't you're not gonna right. And then he's like, being defensive when they point that out. She's no, but okay, but I'm being defensive, but it's because she's speaking February, not because she's saying about sorry, that was a cherry seven up. So Jen's please say I didn't give myself hiccups. This day is already a disaster. So Jen's like, No say it and give myself hiccups. This day is already a disaster. So Jen's like, no, I'm just saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:28 have awareness of women around you who've been in your life a long time. You go to a different level than any of us go. And at some point, Tamar, it just starts to hurt. She's, okay, I'm sorry, you're right. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Well, she is throwing therapy tomorrow. She's like, no, I'm on day. Was Jesus busy this season? I can't with Tamra, okay. Was it the Christianity thing didn't work? Why is nobody asking about that? What happened to your Christian season, Tamra? I mean, we all knew you'd go back to Satan eventually,
Starting point is 00:44:58 but you had your Jesus season, then you come back riding a fucking Harley and never mentioned Jesus again and now you're in therapy. Carol, go talk to your priest in the pool. Go talk to your pool priest. Well you know what Tamara why did you waste so long on this door of therapy? That's a valid question, lawyer approved. So she goes well when everyone says that you're dead it's time to lie down. It's time to lie down. Ahhhhhhh! Okay, Tamra. So Heather's like, so you are lying down?
Starting point is 00:45:28 She's, um, I'm lying down, everyone. It's okay, you don't want the big bad wolf in your cast anymore. I'm just gonna go off to therapy and be ruined for life. Bye! Don't even look at me anymore. I'm a monster!
Starting point is 00:45:44 I never went to the hospital and don't let it be about me. About myself. Don't want to be about myself anymore. You know what? I am proud of you. Everyone is allowed to evolve. Well, you're allowed to. You don't do it.
Starting point is 00:46:04 My god. But you're not going to get. Well, you're allowed to, you don't do it. My God. But you're not going to get a raise, Alfredo. So congratulations on learning a new skill. You're getting the same rate. Evolving shouldn't cost me money. Okay? Someone should tell Wendy Malick about the concept of evolving. Am I right, everyone? High five.
Starting point is 00:46:22 So Andy is like... First of all, evolving. Rag, Windex, window. wipe, wipe, wipe. Look at you. You're standing upright almost. I mean, look, look at the power of evolving. Gina used to live in a shoe and now she lives in a box. Congratulations. Hopefully next we can move on to a bag. I'm rooting for you, Gina. Gina I'm donating a coaster to your household much like I donated an entire dining set to Nobu. God bless. So Tamer's like, I'll take that, I'll take that. Emma's like, I mean, what, you're a 55? You're gonna evolve now? It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:47:06 She goes, yeah, I'll take it, I'll take it, Emily. Hey, hey, hey, hey. And then he's like, well, when the Duchess of Corona del Mar took everyone, or almost everyone, not a lexical smelly eno, ah! To London, she thought it was gonna be fun. But the accents in this group were more butchered than a Sunday roast. And then we get a clip of everybody having wacky London
Starting point is 00:47:31 accents. Yeah. And it's like, it's, it's the customary episode two of a three part reunion, segment two wacky fun times thing that they do. So Andy is like, Katie, did you ever have any idea that your trip on London would involve an enema? No, no, I wasn't expecting that. Cause again, Matt and I work in golf, so it was not really what we were hoping or happy with.
Starting point is 00:47:58 So, uh- All right. I did try an enema later and golf balls came out. So weird. Yeah, it was a real water trap. So Andy is like down there, but really, really changed it up. That one. I wouldn't suggest those to anybody.
Starting point is 00:48:20 So Andy is like, Gino, what was Travis's reaction to you talking about his balls? Oh my God, that was like his favorite thing, mainly because I was talking to him again, because I allowed him into the house. So Travis, you know, he's been having a great year. Yeah, I don't care about Travis's ball talk. So who cares? Okay, so now we move on to Emily. And now we move on to the being mean to Jen again.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Like, it's just a dog pile. It's like, let's talk about Travis' balls for a while. Okay, let's pile on Jen some more. So now it's Emily being mean with Gina about her being evicted and all of that. And Gina's screaming at her at that coffee shop and telling her she's poor and she's out getting makeup and glam and all that. And then Emily screaming at her at that coffee shop and telling her she's poor and she's out getting makeup and glam and all that.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And then Emily yelling at her and calling her stupid and a ding-dong and all of this stuff. And then we come back and they're laughing. They're like, I was so funny, Andy. I was really good. I was really good at that one. Well, Emily, your anger was about what you didn't get in your life, right?
Starting point is 00:49:23 So would you like to somehow make this about your mother? Yes I would, thank you very much. You know, I think a lot of things, you know, Jen was saying like, oh my ex is supposed to pay and like he's supposed to do this and that and you know, that's stuff that my mom used to always say when I was growing up and I remember thinking, oh what about you? You're a woman, you could make money. Come on! From an attorney perspective, because I am an attorney, by the way,
Starting point is 00:49:48 I disagree with signing a contract without really understanding where the money is going. And as a daughter of my mother, I disagree with not turning it into an issue about my mom. Uh... She really is something else. I mean, she makes every piece of bad behavior an excuse because her mom was mean to her.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I can't. So Jen was like, well, he was living in that home. So why in my mind would I think that our rent's not gonna be paid in the home that we're both renting with our children? I mean, come on. I mean, it never even crossed my mind, but I'm not sitting in a place where I wanna be like,
Starting point is 00:50:19 oh, I just didn't know very much, you know, because now I feel different and I should have known. So how about that? You know, Jen, it cannot be stated enough times how well she's doing with these women just rolling all over her this whole time, constant attack. And now Emily's using the victim cloak of motherhood of Shady, her mother having been terrible.
Starting point is 00:50:40 She's using that victim cloak to make it like, oh, me calling you stupid and rallying on you all season and being fucking evil to the core to you all season long, even today is just because my mom was mean to me and Jen doesn't care. She doesn't say anything mean back to Emily. She's just like, you know what, thank you for pointing that out. Because I should know and I should be better. And I shouldn't have excuses. You're right, Emily. Like you, God damn it, you're good.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You know, bless your heart. Well, Jen, what are you doing to get in control of your finances? And she's like, well, you know, I think I know I know my car payment. I know what my car payments do. All right. And what is your car payment and what does it do? Jelly beans and some day. Okay, Andy, a couple of blow jobs. And you know, it's hard work, but it's good work if you can get it.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You know what I mean, Andy? So it happens. That's not actually payment. Yeah, it is. And then Ryan just forwards it for me. He's so good with that. You know, I just like to take my, thank you, Ryan. Thank you so much to get that. You know, I'd just like to take my... Thank you, Ryan. Thank you so much. Did you get that?
Starting point is 00:51:45 But excuse me, attorney-client-privilege-mum-um. I thought you took Ryan's car. I did. Ryan got a new car. But does the old car have a payment? Yes, and I have to pay that payment. Okay. Like, congratulations, Emily. Thanks for drilling down on this very essential point
Starting point is 00:52:02 about Jen's car payments that no one in the entire audience cares about, except for drilling down on this very essential point about Jen's car payments that no one in the entire audience cares about except for you. And also, no one has ever had to explain car payments on a show. Like, you guys have got it to the point where you're questioning her about her car payment. And then the fact that she's like, yes, I am paying it, and Emily's like,
Starting point is 00:52:19 okay. Oh, does she have your approval now, Emily? Great. We know how Emily approves. And notice that Emily snuck right away. Not snuck away, but she managed to just totally get away without being scrutinized about Jen saying, I heard your in-laws pay for everything. And here's Jen, Emily is saying like,
Starting point is 00:52:41 Really? You know when you pay your car? Isn't that Ryan's car? So why would you be paying for Ryan's car? She's like, what point are you trying to drive home your Emily, pun intended. So Andy's like, all right, Gina and Jen, we saw recently on social media that YouTube went back to the scene of the crime that lola's.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Ah! And we- And you see them having a nice dinner you know, a nice dinner over there, or a nice breakfast over there and stuff. So, how's your relationship? And Gina's like, we're definitely closer. And, like, I definitely see a different side of Gina. And, like, I'm just trying to seem like a good person today.
Starting point is 00:53:20 So, I'm just gonna say really nice things about Gina. Well, you did call her a ding-dong. She's like, Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did that. But I really, you know, I built it at the time. I did. Did you see the stuff with Gina this week that was, um, she got caught on her own Instagram?
Starting point is 00:53:41 Yes, I forgot about that. She commented on one of her own Instagram. Yes. I forgot about that. She commented on one of her own posts, oh, Gina, the best mother, the best daughter, the best friend, the best woman, hearts, hearts, hearts, and all this. And they're like, whoops, Gina got caught commenting, and then she came out with a private statement, and she was a private statement, a public statement. She was like, goins, Mike, here's what happened.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Everybody's bothering me about this. Normally, goins, like, here's what happened. Everybody's bothering me about this. Normally I don't like to come on and defend myself except every week when I'm on here defending myself. So I'm just above it and I don't care, even though I'm constantly on here explaining myself. But you know, that's because my dad goes through my Instagram account because he wants to delete
Starting point is 00:54:23 all the mean comments because he doesn't want me read anybody being mean to me. And so it was my dad who did that. But the truth is, I don't even care what a new thing. So whatever. I was like, Oh, really? Wow. I wonder if she learned that that story from the Tamra school of defenses. Yeah, a little, little convoluted. It's hilarious. So she's like, Yeah, I called you a ding dong. And then was like a little convolutedness, hilarious. So she's like, yeah, I called you a ding dong. And Emily's like, well, you know what? I call everyone a ding dong.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I mean, I call my kids ding dong. What's the big deal here? So now, I mean, first of all, who cares about being called a ding dong? But like, I just love Emily who wants extreme accountability from any small thing that Jen does is now like, oh yeah, well, no, whatever. She can call someone a ding dong. Like, what a big deal.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Am I right? I do that all the time. Case dismissed, attorney. Yeah, you also called her a weakling and a fucking moron in every other name under the book. So I'm in the book. So I'm wondering why we only get ding dong, you know? It's like making it so innocent and sweet.
Starting point is 00:55:21 You two are assholes, assholes. You were monsters. So then Jen's like, oh so innocent and sweet. You two were assholes, assholes. You were monsters. So then, it's like, oh, oh, sorry, go ahead. I was gonna say, Andy's like, you also called her Malibu broke Barbie. And she's like, yeah, I did. And that wasn't very nice. But she got me back. She wore a cute bathing suit and posted on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And we see her in a bathing suit that says, um, like, Malibu Barbie hashtag ding- dong, et cetera. And I objected to that because you did not wear the Susan Bender bathing suit I got for you instead. Well, when you look back on that situation, Jen, do you feel like you played it wrong? And Jen's like, no, I mean, look, what people don't know is that what happened within like four days, it was January 5th, my rent was already going to be late again. And so everybody's like, well, why didn't you take the money? Why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that? Well, those conversations were being had, but I wasn't having those with her. And I would never ever take Gina's hard work or want to jeopardize that. I didn't understand why I need
Starting point is 00:56:16 this man. And Gina was like, well, you know that everyone has moments where they communicate in a way that did not count them. and it's just in like glam. Like that's what set me over the top that you were getting glam. That's it, that's what Tita. Every man. So Andy's like, well, I want to talk about Jen's dress that she wore to Shannon's tea party.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Jen, what did you think about Heather questioning why you wore a $2,000 dress? You know, I didn't take the $6,000 little thing and you know, I a $2,000 dress. You know, I didn't take the $6,000 little thing and you know, I get $6,000 a month. I didn't just go and blow $2,000 on a dress and not feed my kids. That's not going to ever happen. But did you borrow it? She's like, what part of it do you people not understand? I moved in with Ryan and Ryan pays for all of my shit. Why don't you understand this? This is why you're so mad that he might be part of a scandal.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Because if his money runs out, my money runs out. Okay, so he bought the dress. I just wish he had said that. I wish too, because they're like trying to figure it out like it's this big mystery. And she's like, no, Ryan spent the money on the dress instead of feeding my children. Okay, not me. And they're all shocked. It seems like they're all shocked that this would be something that happens when like so many Real Housewives scenes and didn't we just see this last like this week with Jessel are like, whatever, I have my husband's credit card and he's got to pay for it. I have to make it up to him later. Like, that's like such a standard thing. And they're like, I can't believe Ryan is funding Jen's lifestyle. So Andy's, Andy's like, so you're saying so, so did he say, hey, I'm buying you the dress? I don't follow this makes no sense to me.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Heather is like, but the truth is I'm an actor. And before the season began, I was sitting in a director's chair and I remember getting a call from you and you wanted to talk about my character. And I said, let's talk about your character first, finances. Let me give you some advice. And then I gave you the only advice I knew how, which was just be rich.
Starting point is 00:58:24 And you didn't take that advice. And so when I saw you the only advice I knew how, which was just be rich. And you didn't take that advice. And so when I saw you buy that dress, I said, and now she's buying a dress. You know, she was in luck because at that moment I was auditioning for a reboot of Succession, playing the role of Shiv Roy, which I still can play, thank you very much. And I said, you've got to be fucking kidding me.
Starting point is 00:58:44 This company is mine. I said, just take that energy and carry that into your finances and you will be great. Yeah. And she's like, you know, I it's like, I was like, oh, my God. Her dress is 2000. Like, what is she thinking? Yeah. I mean, it was common. It was gossip. You know, Heather does that. It was nothing. It was not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:03 It was, you know, nothing. It was gossip. You know, let me just swat a fly out of the way very slowly. It was gossip. It was, you know, it was like Wendy Malick on the side of a soundstage trying to book another gig. Just empty chatter. No one's listening to it. It was gossip.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Pass five. My emergencies are on. You can see them. Pass. Pass it to the traffic. It's gossip. Passed by. My emergencies are on. You can see them. Pass. Pass it, Craftman. It's gossipy. Nothing. And I'm like, yeah, we all gossip. God, that side of the couch is making me crazy how they just keep jumping in and diminishing every terrible action their little teammates have made.
Starting point is 00:59:42 It's making me nut. So, Andy's like, uh, Jen, the award you got from your ex was the 200,000. And she's like, well, I mean, I'm supposed to get that. And he said, okay, and you're supposed to get 6,000 a month also. And she goes, yeah, well, I mean, supposed to. And so he's making payments as well, you know, unfortunately not right now. And we have an upcoming court date. And I've had a few sporadic
Starting point is 01:00:06 payments but basically no he's like half a deadbeat dad he's paying some and not others and then Emily's like well I find it really odd and you know why because he's a lawyer and guess who else is a lawyer I'm a lawyer and I'm telling you as a lawyer whose mother didn't pay enough attention to her, you get reprimanded. Like if you don't pay your child support and you don't pay your spouse support, they take away your bar license. And I know this because I'm a lawyer. So Jen is like, well, and I don't want that for him, but like I can't speak with him. We can't communicate. So she tells a story about how she, they have no communication tool. So she actually like showed up at his door
Starting point is 01:00:48 to basically to say like, hey, we have to figure this out. And then he basically went to the press and was like, she was talking to me or harassing me, et cetera. Yeah, and he accused her of defaming him because she's talked about it on the show and stuff. Make your fucking payments, you deadbeat. If you don't want to be defamed, then make your payments. Okay?
Starting point is 01:01:08 I'm so sick of men. And he's also like, oh yeah, you know, you took the kids. You live in a one bedroom apartment. How ready are you for those kids? You don't want those fucking kids. I'm so sick of fucking men. Just shut up and pay your fucking pay your debts. How about that?
Starting point is 01:01:22 Well, you know what? And you know what? And, you know, Emily's like, I actually find that Jen, when she talks about her ex, I found her to be very respectful. It's really upsetting to me. But you know, and she's like, well, yeah, I've got five, there's five children between us, but you're gonna have to fight with them someday.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So why as well start it now? This is gonna be the rest of your life. Fight, fight, fight. It's just never all of a sudden gonna be like, you know what, I'm gonna write a check. So you take care of you. You build things for you like I do. I built a man who has rich parents.
Starting point is 01:01:54 This is why I want you to take care of you. So Gina's like, you know what? It's like really good for your self-esteem. Be your own hero. I learned that from a dish I just bought from Marshall's. Yeah, but also don't just let men off the hook for their five fucking children. How about that? Are you doing that, Gina?
Starting point is 01:02:14 Have you just stopped taking any kind of support from your ex-husband? I doubt it. I seriously doubt it. Give me a fucking break with that. I'm sorry, I'm just chuckling at the idea of Gina being her own hero. Like, I'm just chuckling at the idea of Gina being her own hero. Like, I'm just imagining what sort of awful Marvel universe superhero Gina would be.
Starting point is 01:02:30 She's like, hi. So everyone, here's my super-peer superhero power. I can generate symbols. I feel bad. I'm not as good as the Hulk. You can generate symbols? I don't know. Psh. I can generate symbols. I can generate another thimble.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I can make anything into wort-ot. Okay. She can put live, laugh, love on buildings. Yeah. She's like, sorry everybody. It really took me a long time to get here, but my cape is made out of frozen meatballs.
Starting point is 01:03:02 So. Guys, I feel bad that I missed a big fight with Thanos. It's just that like I was talking to my dad because he was going through my Instagram. So did it work out okay? Did we beat him? Is everyone okay? How's Iron Man?
Starting point is 01:03:17 So now we move on to Gina. After everybody gives, Emily who's being supported by her in-laws gives the motivational speech of do it like me, be independent. We move on to Gina and her situation. And basically she finally fessed up at the end of the show that, well not fessed up, that's probably not a good way. She finally explained to us that what she's been having problems with
Starting point is 01:03:46 this whole time is that the ex-wife is fucking nuts. And so that's been the problem. And she's trying to protect her kids, which makes total sense. And I'm 100 percent Team Gina on that one. Yeah. And and there's basically saying that like how in the beginning of the season, nothing like made sense because Gina was trying to kind of like not trying to out the situation. She just wanted it to sort of not just wanted to protect her kids the entire time. But like it just was so confusing because her excuses were really bad.
Starting point is 01:04:20 That is not her superhero ability is coming up with excuses to like cover up a dark situation. She's like, Yeah, I just don't like pots and pans and Travis likes pots and pans. So we had to move out. But I still love him. It's like, I feel like you could do better at this, Gina. But ultimately, we can't. What'd you say? No, no, go ahead. No, like ultimately, like she did explain really what was going on. So it finally made sense. No, like, ultimately, like, she did explain really what was going on, so it finally made sense, and, you know, you're right, like... It's scary. I mean, she's basically, if, I mean, look, from what she's saying, this ex is accusing all, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:54 that, like, pushed Travis down the stairs and all this stuff is apparently coming from the ex who's accusing her of all this stuff. And Gina's like, well, if I'm not in the house with Travis and the kids, then she'll leave me alone, in theory, right? I would say this has been seven years, and there's never just one crazy person. And if it was that crazy, it's weird to me that Travis isn't just out of the situation.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Like, why has it been seven years? That's nuts. And I don't... I'm... Basically, I'm saying be wary of Travis too, because there's never, it's never just one person who's this much of a victim in this. Like I don't, there's something, there's something fishy with that. Seven years is not normal. So be careful over there.
Starting point is 01:05:37 But as far as all this stuff, I'm good for her for making that choice and getting the hell out of there because that sounds like the right one, right? Yeah. So then everyone, if they, now it's time to break for lunch. And Katie says to Jen, we have to talk. She's like, oh, we're like right now. No, like in three weeks. Of course, right now, you idiots. Come on. So then they they go off to talk and then someone goes up to Heather and is like, you need some solids, you know, you eat.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You don't eat solids. you don't eat solids. She's I don't eat solids. Someone fired this Alfredo. We do not eat solids on this set. So then let's see here. What else happened in this part? Well, Heather, they're just like talking right now. Heather tells Shannon, listen, I just want to say, now that we're backstage, I'm gonna flap my hand
Starting point is 01:06:30 at you a little bit, because I can see you're a little hot, so I'm gonna create a little bit of air by flapping my hand. I just want to say, I think you handled yourself perfectly for someone who does not have a SAG After card. You did a great job. Great job. I mean, really, carrying around around that ET shaped head today, I don't know what's going on under that wig. But whatever it is, you're pulling it off. Great. And you know, I know, I know
Starting point is 01:06:54 that sometimes we give each other stuff Shannon, and we've got a history. But ultimately, Shannon, I just love you. Okay, bye. She's so ridiculous. And she does it in the exact same way that she did the whole like, oh, Chen, I'm so sorry about the children. I'm sorry they came for your children.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I did not see that coming. Oh, okay. Okay, lady, you helped start all this. I care about you too. Oh, you've already left the room. Okay, great. Love you. Love you, Han. Why did you leave solids in here?
Starting point is 01:07:28 That's weird. Are these milk tubs? By the way, if we fight later, it's okay, because I think we're good. So now Jen and Katie are talking and Katie's like, oh my God, now I'm so glad we can talk because I did put you in a weird spot when I asked about that because look, I know you guys mended things, but I would never go check the price of somebody's dress. This is something we skipped over, which is in the middle of that fight.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Katie piped up to say, by the way, Heather, I think it was a real mean girl thing of you to do that to check out that price. That's like mean girl behavior. And they had a whole thing about mean girl stuff. Oh yeah, that's when Heather was like, oh, come on, it was gossipy. It was something, it was mean, it was mean. And I love that this whole thing is about
Starting point is 01:08:15 Heather just pretending she can't understand why anybody, especially children would call her mean. Children dress up like you for Halloween. You're mean, lady. Yeah, and so Jen's like, no, it's fine. You didn't ruin anything. You know, it is, it was a mean girl thing. And then Gina's like, well, maybe Heather has been a mean girl in her life at some point, but like not to Katie. Um, she literally has been a mean girl to Katie. Katie's like, I just think it was very fake. Like she of course is like, I don't know. She does that whole like, ah, thing at me. I'm just like, it's just mean. It's mean. And she did it perfectly to the whole dismissive hand wave.
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