Watch What Crappens - #2662 RHOSLCS5E14 Part Two: Todd Bedfellows

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

This is part 2 of a two-parterOn The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City cast trip, Braunwyn reveals that Todd has been unfaithful, and Meredith is rumored to be vomiting and crying (over slut shaming).  In the end, Lisa storms out of dinner, and Mary just wants some dessert. To watch this recap on video, listen to our Sold on SLC bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Tickets for the Mounting Hysteria Tour are now on sale at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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There are none of those moments. There are none, spoiler alert. I'm doing the slow Bronwyn nod, which is her way of saying, I'm hearing this and I'm very Rachel. By the way, we just saw a flashback of Lisa being the one who was the only one that we've seen that was like Bronwyn,

how was your dog attack? Like, what was that? What happened? Were you screaming? Were you trying to, like, what happened with that? Lisa was literally just asking you about yourself In a clip But okay, ron was like from day one. I've been called two-faced

Terrifying not a girl's girl a trophy wife a werther's original stealer. That was actually todd who said that a gold digger This is bullshit Okay The amount of shit that's been said about me before anybody has bothered to get to know me is insane It's so insane. I'm gonna pulse my right eyeball at you and Angie's like brahman You are fine. No, Lee showing something and Heather's like we didn't even know that any of that bothered you We thought if we called you a fucking bitch gold digger two-faced slut. We thought you'd be down She's like it was nothing about being a gold digger two face slut, we thought you'd be down. She's like, it was nothing about being a gold digger.

I mean, if you just bothered to get to know me. And Brittany's like, and by the way, Bronwyn started a fight with Heather within two seconds. How would she try and get to know you? You immediately went and tattletailed on her and tried to get her in trouble. So then Brittany's like, well, I don't want to come for you. And Angie goes, just hold on. She's like, hold on little one. I loved when she did that. She's like, well, I don't want to come for you. And Angie goes, shh, just hold on. She's like, hold on little one.

I loved when she did that. She was like, just. I know. She's like, this is Bronwyn's monologue, okay? She's been, this is her getting the rose moment. Just let her have it, you know? I know, Bronwyn has stolen Brittany's moment. Bronwyn's like, you know, it would have been about

the shit that's really important to me. If anybody had asked me, it's actually about the real shit that I've gone through with Todd. How hard it is to be a stepmom. How hard it is for me to navigate being with someone who is older and successful and cranky and still uses a palm pilot. Have you ever tried to text someone with a palm pilot? It's awful.

And the infidelity too. That's probably number three on the list there. I mean, we have infidelity in our situation. So, wow. And she very clearly says, and the infidelity infidelity in our situation. So, wow, and she very clearly says, and the infidelity we have in our situation. And Whitney goes, and everyone just goes, ah, there's a big long moment.

And then Lisa moves chairs and sits on an ottoman and then double crosses her legs and then acts, she like flicks her hair like, here we go. Here, this is me, Lisa listening. Go, you're welcome. Call me Dr. Loew this is me, Lisa listening. Go, you're welcome. Call me Dr. Lowenstein, I'm listening. So Whitney's like- Caller Henry.

Like her Caller Daddy podcast. Speaking of pressure. Caller Henry, this is my investigative journalism. Speaking of pressure, how did you find out about the infidelity? So Bronwyn's like, when were you infidelity? I thought it was only a website. Didn't happen at Aqua aerobics.

It's good for the joints. So Bronwyn says a couple of years ago, they were on a trip and he was texting someone on his iPad. And then Gwen went to say something to and he was texting someone on his iPad. And then Gwen went to say something to him and she saw it over his shoulder. What does she see over his shoulder? Was it a nut pick? Cause you know, I want to see a pick.

If there was like some balls hanging, you know, being dragged, you know, behind his ankles or something, I want to see it. I want to see some old man nut picks given to me. I don't know if I want to see Todd's nuts. I'm just curious, like how low can they go? Come on. I want to see. Real low. So, um, so Gwen caught that's terrible that Gwen had to be the one to catch him.

Like that's awful. And also if you're on a trip, you're on a family trip and you're going to be the one to catch him. Like that's awful. And also if you're on a trip, you're on a family trip and you're going to be texting with your mistress on a trip of all places when you're like, when you have, when you got Bronwyn and Gwen in close proximity, like not only is it shitty that you're a cheater, but you're also a bad cheater. So Whitney's like, Oh no! And Marika's like, ah! And Brahman's like, yeah, so Gwen came to me and I confronted Todd. And she says, I thought this was funny. This is supposed to be, this is a serious moment, but I thought the implication here was funny.

She's like, the truth is, my relationship is just as hard as everybody else's in its own ways. And has its very own, very, very low lows that were very hard for me. And this is the side of the girls, this is the side the girls have yet to see, but I want them to understand that I bleed the same way as they do. I cry the same way. It's like, I may be very rich and I may be much smarter than them, but I too bleed. Yeah. The implication is, I know I'm much better than these people.

But in some ways I'm just like them. Celebrities, they're just like us. I'm just like them, just in much more expensive clothing. You know, now do I cry? Yes. Is it into canvas bags? No. So Whitney's like, but what did he say to you when you confronted him about it? And she's like, well, he said it's a fatal flaw of his. And what's good for him in business is that he's never satisfied and he's always pushing for the next deal,

the best deal, whatever. And Britney's like, oh, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Everyone, I'd like to announce that was ouch. Ouch, am I right? Cheers to Brian. That was, that hurt, that hurt even me. Guys, I just want to announce that Jared has also cheated on me. I'm sorry. Yeah.

Okay. I found that in the Costco five minutes after he committed to me. It was with the lady serving the chicken nugget samples. They were serving, the lady you serve, it gave him an aloo wet sample and she looked over his shoulder and saw that he was actually just making out with the lady giving out the silk chocolate milk samples. It was a very blatant cheating.

So, by the way, this thing- We're monsters by the way, us laughing. And I'll tell you why I'm laughing, why I'm so openly laughing in just a second. What were you gonna say? I was gonna say, let's not let Todd off the hook with this bullshit excuse. No, Todd is not off the hook.

No, we're laughing because we're idiots. No, no, we're laughing. I'm just saying like, cause we're laughing and like we might, we run the risk of just moving on, but like we need to dwell for one moment on this bullshit of, oh, well, you know, in business, I'm always looking for the next deal. So, you know, I just naturally, I'm always looking for the next deal. So, you know, I just naturally am always looking for the next thing.

That is the biggest line of bullshit that in no way explains why you cheat. And you do not get to, like, you do not get to let yourself off the hook by saying your business instincts are so good that it carries over into your erections. No, that's just not a thing. And A, if it is a thing, you're basically saying you're treating Bronwyn like a business transaction. So all of it is wrong in so many different ways. Well, it's also wrong in that

if he's gonna compare it to his business, Palm Pilot was the one that was replaced by something better. Palm Pilot did not come along and decide to replace somebody. It was the one that was replaced. So if he's gonna compare that to his business, he's not even getting that right. He's not, he seems to be looking,

he's doing a better job at looking forward with his boners than he is with his business. But that's a terrible, terrible excuse. And the fact that like Bronwyn is like, well, you know, with Todd, he just, he's just always looking for the next thing. It's like, no, it doesn't work that way. It does not work that way. I'm sorry. Yeah, and you know, with Todd, he just he's just always looking for the next thing. It's like, no, it doesn't work that way. It does not work that way. I'm sorry.

Yeah. And you know what? On this show, we're always making jokes and laughing about serious stuff. But this is just such bullshit. And I'm so sick of fucking hearing this kind of thing from men. And I'm also sick of just people taking it. You know what I mean? Like it grosses me out. And I don't like it. And nobody deserves this. And Brittany and Bronwyn definitely does not deserve this.

And so Heather's like, well, did you say fuck you? It's not hard to turn it off when you come home. It's called marriage and fucking turn it off. You lose your wife. And Lisa goes, yeah, no base. I wouldn't do that. And so Ron was like, well, it's not his fault. You know, you're used to what you used to.

You like what you like. I mean, everybody, everybody has their thing. And Lisa's like, wow. It's literally 100 what you like. I mean, everybody, everybody has their thing. And Lisa's like, wow. It's literally 100% his fault. I just want to point out it's a hundred percent his fault. Yeah. So Lisa's like, you know, this is shocking to me. Like, I don't know what goes on behind closed doors,

but I mean, well, my doors I do. Cause there's cameras everywhere. You know, basically it's a Henry spraying cologne on his armpits and then smelling it and then falling over fainting. And then I send him notes saying, stop putting so much cologne up your nose. You're going to die. He doesn't listen. He's really addicted to that stuff. What were we talking about?

This is like shacking to me. Like, I don't even know what goes on behind closed doors, but I've known Bronwyn for years and all I've seen from her is like how perfect her life is. I mean, she just lives a charmed life. Dog shit everywhere, grumpy husband. It's like exactly what you would want. And you know, she talks about how much she loves Todd and how good he is to her. So for me, I'm just like processing everything and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like kind of hard to believe. And it sounds like she's going, oh my God, I just can't believe it. But I think she's literally saying, I don't believe it.

So then Heather's like, but did he deny it? And she's like, well, he came back with a ring that had five diamonds and he made five new promises to match each of the diamonds. And so they asked what the promises were. And she's like, well, it was five things he didn't promise me when we got married that he probably should have, you know,

cause Todd works 3000 miles away from me, five days a week. So, you know, so there's always gonna be a lump in the back of my throat. And if I'm not super supportive, if I'm not super there, if I'm not super caring, if he's gonna cheat and if I'm not enough at home, he'll get it. So I'm not enough at home and I'm not enough with you guys either.

Oh my God. First of all, this is so fucking sad. But, but you are starting every fight on this show. Nobody has started a fight with you. You have literally antagonized every single person on this show. And then even after they apologized to you, you antagonize everybody else. and then you start crying,

like you're the fucking victim. Are you fucking kidding me? Okay, so that's first. Now, back to the other thing, no one deserves, still nobody deserves this. But, the way that the ladies are treating her is not really fair, even though I get she's projecting pain from one thing onto another thing.

I feel like it's- That's the correlation, is like you're powerless and you have no voice in one and one very important part of your life. So now she like, that's why she's like, I think a little bit, a little extra because she's kind of like vomiting out her voice, right? Like she can't really say how she feels with Todd because she's afraid that she might cause him to cheat again, which is like, that should not be her responsibility for him like a grown up. And yet, so then when she's around people, like

everything that she's about to keep on the inside in one arena, she just spews out in another in another arena because this is the space where she can be like, you know, right. And I know it's an awkward thing for me to be like, but you be doing what you do to ladies and then using that. I know that bringing that up right now when she's, the reason I did that is because of this next thing that happens. So Meredith is based, because she's like, I mean, I love Todd.

Oh, no, no, no. First what happens, Heather is like, I'm sorry. And Meredith says, do you think that maybe that he can't be that invested because you're guarded against him? And Meredith says, do you think that maybe that he can't be that invested because you're guarded against him? And Lisa goes, that's a great question. And she's like, no, no. And then it turns into this whole other thing

of the ladies sticking up for Todd. So I get that it looks like that. And I think maybe they are because they're both in situations, as Whitney points out, Whitney's half-baked, but at least Meredith is in that situation where she's possibly been cheated on before, right?

So maybe she's also a way to justify. And maybe there is something with a lot of people who do kind of justify the other's things. But that's why I pointed out the other thing, is I'm saying, is it possible that you're so, you're setting, like in this group with the friends, I feel like she is starting all of these fights and then making herself a victim.

Like she's purposely pushing people, almost like she's purposely putting up a wall and daring them to like still be her friend, if that makes any sense, even though she's being a total asshole. So I'm saying, is that what they're trying to say? Like, is that what you're doing to him too? Like, are you in your marriage the same way

as you are in this friend group in other ways? I don't have a clear thought on it, but I don't know. I think they take a lot of shit for what they say here, and I don't think it was that bad what they said, basically. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, ultimately, Whitney has a pretty good point here, because Whitney says, it's so quenchy to me,

that Lisa and Meredith are choosing to, like, Whitney has a pretty good point here because Whitney says, it's so quenchy to me, that Lisa and Meredith are choosing to, like, have Todd's side. Like, in this moment, we just need to say, fuck Todd. Like, that's it. And I think that's actually correct. It should be just fuck Todd. I think that what Meredith is actually saying, though, is, like, in these situations, I think that there's, like, a negative feedback loop that happens,

which is that Bronwyn starts acting a little unnatural because of the dynamic because of because of Todd. And then she's acting unnatural, which is then he is going to react to that. There's like that self fulfilling prophecy. And so then he's probably like that's going to create like a, it's not all on her. I'm just saying that like both of their behaviors contribute to a negative feedback loop where they're going to kind of drift and have weird communication.

It's not Bronwyn's fault, but like the point is like the cycle of that communication needs to be disrupted. Um, and, uh, but nevertheless, regardless in this moment, in this conversation, the conversation should have just been like, fuck Todd. And then- I think that's true. And then even us talking about it right now, we're talking about it this way

because we've thought about it overnight. So it was like, we've had time to think of all these other things, but yeah, I think you're right. In the moment, your response to your friend is just like, fuck that guy, and to listen. Now, something else about this, cause this scene goes on for a long time, but just something else to note is that after the show

and the after show, or was it the after show or watch what happens live? Cause she was on watch what happens, no, it was watch what happens live. So she went on watch what happens and Todd was in the audience. He was sitting there and Andy asked about, how Todd feels about his shit being exposed

on the show like that. And she's like, well, first of all, I just wanna make it very clear that Todd did not cheat on me and he did not cheat. That was just some communication. So she took it back. And so some people, so it's kind of a split, right? Because some people are like, oh, she's just doing that

cause she's terrified of Todd. And Todd made it clear to her that if she embarrassed him again, that he would divorce her. And you know, now she's terrified. And so she's just doing what he wants. And then other people are like, no, she clearly lied, which is what she continues to do on the show, which is accusing people of shit that they never did,

that she's so hurt by, you know, exaggerating things or making claims at people, which she does do on the show all the time. And so it's pretty, she's an interesting case because like, is that happening? Because we've also seen that Todd's a controlling asshole. I hate how Todd, you know, no matter what I think of her, I hate seeing how Todd treats her. And that guy's a piece of crap on this show.

So I really don't know, but it's interesting that she, right after this episode, she was sure to go on and say, no, no, no, he never cheated. When she very clearly said there was infidelity. So I guess maybe she was inferring to a different kind of cheating,

which would be emotional or whatever. But she clearly on the show tried to make it look like he cheated on her. So I don't know, she's a confusing one. She's a tough one. Well, I mean, and she's excellent. Excellent on this show. It is, it is.

To get us to really shut the fuck up and have a serious conversation for this many minutes in a row is pretty impressive. She has substance as a housewife. She's great with, she's great on the funny levels in terms of clap backs and whatever. But like there's, there's stuff there with her that's interesting and you want to get to know more about her. So Bronwyn says like, I adore Todd. I live and breathe by what Todd says to me. And by the way, I just want to also point out this entire serious conversation is happening during like massive swells. Did you notice the

boat was going up and then down and then up and then down? I was surprised they weren't all barfing. I kept on seeing the horizon rising up and down on my screen. So she's saying, and I think I mean as much to Todd as any person can mean to him, but I think Todd means more to me than I mean to him. At least I was like, oh, sorry, what were you saying? I got distracted. I was ordering a Diet Coke. So they're like, wow, that's really sad. And she's like, yeah, you know,

but I really understand Todd. And I feel like in this group, in my relationship with Todd and most of my friendships, she's basically saying nobody knows her and who she is. And it's just such a weird isolating feeling and feel like nobody gets her. And she's like, I don't have a good relationship with my mom, I don't have my dad, I'm losing him.

And Gwen's going to college and she's lonely basically. And she's like, so then she thought Lisa was introducing her to friends and then it's been tricky with some of them. And then that reinforces this narrative. Yeah, and it reinforces this narrative that maybe I'm not good enough for anyone. Oh, there it is.

There it is. So good. That's the house. She's like, the heartstring is there. It's like, Bronwyn, you just have to pull it. Pull the heartstring. Like, this is a good story. This is a very, very sad story.

But there's one last thing for you to do. You've got to reach out and you got to grab that harsh string and you got to pull it. I'm not good enough for anyone. It's like, yes, Bronwyn you did it. I love it. Um, made me feel very sad for her. Sad that she feels this way. And Heather's like, you know, you keep saying negative. I'm so cynical. I get it, but I'm sorry. My only feeling is like, yeah, but stop fucking with everybody. Cause you've been the asshole.

Like I'm sorry, but you've been the asshole. And this is, to me, I find all of that would be very compelling if it wasn't just about her starting fights with everybody. Cause to me it's like, you got in trouble, now you don't have any friends, and now you're gonna cry and make everybody else, just say you're sorry to people for starting shit.

I mean, an argument could be made that Heather was the asshole time. And then talk about your story when you're being close. Heather came for Bronwyn first, and then Bronwyn went on defensive, and then she got mad at Lisa because Lisa didn't defend her, and then she kind of just spiraled out from there. But an argument could be made that Heather sort of started it. Well, Bronwyn did start by talking shit about Whitney first because she did say in that car,

she was mocking Whitney in front of Heather and Lisa for the way that Whitney was crying. And she's like, oh my God, girl, like, what are you going for an Oscar award or whatever she was saying? So Heather did come for her, but she was the first one talking behind people's backs. And Heather was just calling her out.

And then she showed up every other time calling every other person out to be like, see, you guys like people calling people out? Well, watch me call her out. And then she showed up every other time calling every other person out to be like, see you guys like people calling people out. Well, watch me call everybody out. But she was guilty of the thing that she was originally charged of, which was talking shit behind someone's back. Even though she went to Whitney

and repeated the stuff to Whitney to her face, she still said it in a, like it was much less of a mockery than it actually was. So to me now, Bronwyn started all of it. I think that Bronwyn, well, but I don't think, well, Bronwyn may have talked, again, I just don't think the talking shit is really, I feel like in line, it's like when you're on a highway

and everyone's going 70 miles per hour and the speed limit is 55, you're all kind of breaking the rules, but you're doing it as a pack. So it's all you're going with the traffic. And I think that's sort of what she was doing. And I think that she was thought she was kind of fitting in because she was like, Oh, I'm on the show. We're going to mix it up. Just like be kind of shady. And then Heather's like, I can't believe she was shady. I think Bronwyn's a terrible person. And then she started this campaign against Bronwyn. And then Bronwyn at that point then like, then went on her.

She did. The path of glory. And I was on Bronwyn's side when that was all happening on the show. I was totally, Heather was acting like an idiot. I mean, I was totally team Bronwyn on that. I'm just saying technically she did, she did start it. It's such a big way that like, yeah, she is trying to fit in. She's trying to fight and everything like that, but she's not fitting in with the part

of like forgiving and moving on. She's just constantly starting something and constantly being offended. And then now that it's all catching up with her, it's like this biggest tier thing like it's just because I don't fit in because who's who besides really a horrible person like me is like hear that and be like, yeah, but also just stop being an asshole. It's like all of that, all of the stuff you're saying about not fitting in and all the stuff about Todd, I think is super valid

and all of her feelings are super valid. But to bring it into this situation where you're constantly antagonizing everybody, I guess it's explaining kind of why she's doing what she's doing, but it's also putting the impetus on everybody else, like not making her feel good and not just her starting shit constantly. But I don't know. Well, that's why she had such a negative. Because also this is why she had a negative reaction to what when Heather was coming at Brahman earlier in the season. The reason why she had actually such a reaction to it is because

she has she carries this baggage of feeling like people don't understand her and that she doesn't fit in. And here she was, she having her first scene and she thinks she's having new friends. She's going to like mix it up like everyone else be a little shady. And then Heather immediately is like, no, I'm the queen bee of the group. And I'm saying, no, you don't get to be here. And it like triggers all these feelings of like, I don't fit in anywhere. I'm always the outsider. I was the outsider.

Bring him young. I was the outsider within my family, outsider within my marriage. Like I was the outsider, within my family, outsider within my marriage. Like no one gets me and once again, I fucked it up. And now it's like, then I think she just goes in war path mode at that point. Like she becomes Carrie and she's been that mode ever since. And by the way, thank God, cause it's been so fun for me at least.

So I guess basically what you're saying is- By the way, both things could be correct. I guess what you're saying that I'm vibing with is that it's not necessarily an excuse because I think I'm taking it more as an excuse and I like the way that you're phrasing it, which is like she's explaining it as a reason and not necessarily using it as an excuse.

She's kind of explaining what's going on and not trying to excuse it, which I'm down with. It could be both. I think it actually could be both. I think it is both an excuse. I have to say, I think yours is more accurate, but it's also more compassionate. So I'm gonna go on that team now.

No, don't be more compassionate. I think it can be both things. She has been an asshole to people. She turned on Whitney and Angie who were like her friends all this season. She turned on them purely to show, to present it was really a, well, it was a gesture solely to show Lisa Barlow

that she's willing to have Lisa Barlow's back at Camp Day. And so she threw those friendships under the bus. That's an asshole move. So she does do asshole things, which contributes to her being not accepted in the group. And however, that's also her damage is that she feels that way. So she may, if there's an interesting parallel here with Todd and here, which is that, and it's just an interesting, it's a commentary in general to like how often we contribute to situations that we're unhappy to.

And that's why there is a thing called self-fulfilling prophecy. And again, I'm not saying this in a way that like, well, Todd cheated because of Bronwyn, no, Todd cheated because of Todd, and Bronwyn didn't deserve that. But like, but you know, the thing is that we all, every situation that we find ourselves in,

we are going to have a reaction to. And a lot of times our reactions sometimes are counterproductive to the outcomes that we want, which is unfortunate, but that's also kind of like a human experience. Girl, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you know that I'm very reactive like that.

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and now you're not okay and you've realized that you deserve more, you're allowed. Like you don't get to, you don't have to just say, I accepted that in the beginning, so now I'm gonna accept that forever. That's bullshit. And you are the queen of your own life. And you girl, you know, she gave her like

the full Barbie speech and I really liked it. I thought it was a good speech. Heather is probably the best I think I think Heather is the number one speech maker on Bravo because I'm just looking at this the speech it is a long speech it is a long intelligent articulate speech you know like you could make an argument that receipts proof timeline etc like she thought about saying that I had like ahead of confronting Monica, but this is an off the cuff speech and it is so good. Like Heather really has a skill with this. And you know what? She's probably the, I was going to say she might be number two. She's number one because you know, the other great speech maker on Bravo is another Heather, Heather Dubrow. I think the Heathers have something. They know how to make

a speech. They know how to just sit you down and look you in the eye and just, like, have a moment on camera. Yeah. Yeah, very well done. Very, very good. Good job, Heathers. So Bronwyn's like, you know, obviously, I've chosen to stay with Todd, and I choose that every single day when I get up. But I appreciate Heather trying to stick up for me

and saying I deserve more, you know, and I'm going to take that support. So then Meredith's like, Bronwyn, what I wanted to say is, you know, I didn't go through this exact situation, but Saf and I obviously had some serious problems where we were separated and nearly divorced and reconciled and And for us, it was really hard. And we had to learn to redefine bean salad. I said three beans, he said five beans. My sister said nine beans, and here we are happier than ever.

And turns out there's room for all the beans in the mall. for all the beans in the mall. So she's saying, you know, it turns, basically what they realized is they had to redefine their relationship because everyone has their capacities, but it doesn't mean that he doesn't adore you. He just may not be able to show it in a way that you receive it, which is also an interesting point when, which Whitney and I think everybody,

Bronwyn definitely kind of turns this against her later and uses this as, they accuse her basically of sticking up for him and saying, oh, they're standing for the man. I think Meredith is saying something pretty typical, which is sometimes you have to meet people where they are, right? Yeah, I didn't love this from Meredith. I thought the first, the first thing she said, uh, I didn't, it was neither were like great.

I understood more the first one, what she was kind of saying, as we previously discussed this one, like the only way I can understand why she would bring this up is if Bronwyn's saying like, I feel like I'm not understood. Oh, cause Bronwyn just said, I feel like I like him more than he likes me. And so maybe this was Meredith responding to that saying like, look, he, I'm sure he loves you. He just doesn't know how to actually express it. Um, but either way again, I think, I think in this moment you just sort of have to not, you just let's not stick up for Todd in this conversation. Maybe have a, have a follow up conversation and say, Hey, I was thinking about it. You know, I was, I felt really bad that you said that you felt like you like your husband

more than he likes you. And maybe he doesn't have the tools to express how much he likes you. So maybe, you know, like something like that. You know, I think it was directly, I think it was, it was a response to directly her saying, she loves Todd more than he loves her. And I think Meredith is just trying to make her feel better and saying, some people don't know how to show love

in the same way. And it doesn't mean that he doesn't love you as much as you love him. It's just, some people are not capable of showing love the same way as you. I think that she's trying to make her feel better. And I don't think she's like jumping on Todd's side. I don't think it's about Todd.

I think she's trying to make this sad woman feel better. I think Meredith's intentions were totally to try to make Bronwyn feel better in both comments that she made. I just, it's like, it just one of those ways where it's not the comment you wanna hear right now. I know that she might not wanna hear it. And I might, if the argument is like,

you know, that's not what I wanna hear right now, then okay, but I don't like the twisting it and making it like they're standing up for Todd and nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. It's like they're trying to be there for you. You know, it's like you come to people with this huge thing, they're trying to be with you, be there for you, and you're twisting what they're saying

and trying to make it something bad and then using it against them later. And I just think it's gross gross, like it just gives me the ick. It's like she takes all the goodwill she builds up and then she does something that just icks me out. I don't know. I'm later, but the third hour of this is why I'm saying that like this is why I'm saying murder. They should have said this stuff a little bit later because when you have just

said, turns out Todd, there was infidelity and I think I like him more than him. And then you have someone say, yeah, but he may know he probably likes you a lot. He just doesn't know how to do it. It sounds very much like it's like, you just don't want to hear that. You don't want to hear like, no, no, no, let's have some empathy for Todd right now. So, uh, it's the, the reason why Mary should not have brought it up right now is because what she, if she's trying to say what we think maybe she was trying to say, it's such a subtle thing that in an

emotional moment right now, it's going to get lost and it's going to get used against you no matter what. So like wait to have a more nuanced conversation later. Yeah. Well, you know, but it's also an ensemble show where everybody's talking about their feelings and giving opinions about everything that people are bringing up. So to like to like pick and choose everything. And then I don't know, I just didn't I felt like I felt like it was a bad vibe using somebody trying to open up with you.

Even if you don't like someone's advice, when you open up to your friends and they try and help you in any way, even if you don't like their advice to like turn around and be like, well, fuck her. You just had somebody sitting and talking to you and trying to help. And so to use it against them and villainize them later is just like, sorry, I'm just not into it. Yeah, but you know, on this show, this show you never really know what people's motives are,

to be honest. Well, that's true. And I could be proved wrong literally in two seconds, so who knows. Also, LOL to me saying that they should have a nuanced conversation later as if the concept of nuance has ever coincided with Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City for Christ's sake.

It's not for nuanced things. I know. So Meredith says that and then Andrew's talking about how she wants to cry just listening to it because her husband is super perfectionist and she has a lot of pressures like that with Sean and he just keeps wanting more and more and more and they just open one business and she finally catches her breath and now he wants another business.

And she's like, oh my God, leave me alone, man. And Heather's like, Brawn, is that why you have so many dogs? She's like, I do, leave me alone, man. And Heather's like, Browen, is that why you have so many dogs? She's like, I do have so many dogs because the dogs adore you. I hear that every time a dog poops on your carpet, it's its way of saying, I love my owner. And Browen's like, thank you.

You know, we are shoving shit into all the cracks in my heart, Heather. Clothes, bags, dogs, literally bags. I have this canvas tote right now, which is gonna heal some wounds for me. So because Brittany's an idiot, and she watches Bachelor, you know, religiously, sorry, not all of you are idiots who watch The Bachelor. Obviously, I watched it for many years,

but I'm just saying Brittany is obviously trained in Bachelor speak, and she goes, Brittany, and she goes, Ronwin, we needed that. Good job. Like, she's like, I'm so proud of you. That's all I needed to really like you is your trauma. Thank you for giving me your trauma. And Lisa goes, you're so much more relatable now.

Your Q rating just went so up. I know. So they hug her, they get off the boat and everything, and they go back to Sprinter van van and then Lisa's like, wow, do you know what I'm like? Do you feel the same? Like that was interesting. And Miranda's like, oh, I feel sorry for her.

Yeah, when Todd sees this, he's gonna lose his mind. Which I think that's what we're all thinking. Like what is Todd? You have two reactions. One is the right reaction, One's the wrong reaction. The right reaction is to say when I saw that Bronwyn that broke my heart and I just feel terrible that I made you feel this way and I'm going to do whatever I can to reassure you and prove to you that like you're my number one priority.

That's the right reaction. The wrong reaction will be, why did you, I can't believe you put that on TV. Do you know how embarrassing that is for me? Now everyone's gonna look at me like I'm a cheater. And I guarantee you it was option number two that he took. Yeah. Well, we'll see. I mean, he seemed fine on the show. He was on Watch What Happens and he seemed fine.

And she's like, you know, Todd knew I was gonna, she said something like, you know, Todd knows I'm gonna talk about it or like, you know, Todd knows I'm gonna talk about it or something, you know, but it was just interesting. You should watch it and watch the dynamic on there because it was definitely an interesting clip. Okay, so now they're talking about the boat, you know, they're back at the place or whatever

and Lisa, Brittany and Meredith are talking and Brittany's like, it was just so emotionally exhausting. It was like, you know, a lot came out of Bronwyn and I feel closer to Bronwyn, but at the same time, what about me? By the way, Meredith, how are you feeling? Yeah, you were quiet on the boat. Yeah, well, I was not feeling great on the boat.

And Lisa's like, really nauseous? Yeah, a little bit of exhaustion more than anything. You know, a little nauseous and a little hurting. Not great, but I feel good now. You might've been nauseous from being so high on those heels. They were showing her walking in these heels she chose to wear to the boat,

and she couldn't even walk. Like, Angie had to help her walk to the boat. Yes, that was the funniest moment. Wow, that's an odd duo. goes to where to the boat and she couldn't even walk. Like Angie had to help her walk to the boat. Yes. And that was the funniest moment. Wow, that's an odd duo. Everyone's like, what's going on with that right now? Now listen, Meredith also has, Meredith does not always do well on the first day

of vacation, let's not forget her first day in Bermuda when she was like, I need, I need to come find a bathtub. So, you know, she needs like a moment. She needs a moment. She loves a Benzo on the plane, basically is what you're saying. She loves a Benzo and a few of those little tiny bottles

of wine on a plane and it takes a minute to recover from that. It's like, girl, everything is not 27 hours away, okay? I mean, how many are you taking? Jesus Christ, you could anesthetize an entire children's wing with what you just took. Seth, not that I would suggest that anybody do that. It's an odd thing to say. Okay, so I was just trying to think of smaller people. Chipmunks, you can anesthetize several chipmunks. So Bronwyn's like, and she's like,

how are you feeling Bronwyn? And she's like, you know, I keep wondering if I'm crazy or if I'm misunderstanding because like you guys saw when I was like crying about what I was sharing with you guys about my personal life, Lisa was not. And then when he goes, I think that like, when her intentions are good, she doesn't quite know.

Like even, hold on, even though her intentions are good, she doesn't quite know, like even, ah, hold on, even though her intentions are good, she doesn't quite know how to do aqua-robics. I mean, wait, no, what's the word? Listen. And it's like, there is, well, I also have to point out, you were confronting her at the same time. You were just chewing her out in front of the whole group, and then you pivoted into making everybody feel sorry for you

So I don't really I don't know what this lady expects. Honestly, so Anthony's like Well, there's something with you two Like I cannot pinpoint it and I don't want to say she's not supporting you but you're you're you're sleeping over here So that is something and brah was like, I mean she's just doing enough to make me feel uncomfortable But not enough to get like get in trouble for it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Nothing overtly wrong. So then we come back to Lisa drinking that coke ominously. So now like Heather comes to sit down with Whitney and Angie and Bronwyn and Heather's like, how are you feeling? Are you feeling better? Would you like another wonderful speech?

Bronwyn's like, well, I was just telling Angie, the three of you were the most responsive and caring and inquisitive, so I appreciate that. Thank you. And like today, when I was telling you guys what's going on with Todd and I, it felt like Meredith said, well, maybe that's all Todd can do.

Like I should be fine with that. Like that's the max. That's it. That's what you get. I mean, I've already talked for 15 minutes about this. I'll save it. So Heather's like, so it's like, you think she's saying it's your fault

because you're guarded. And she's like, yeah. And there was this like, is Todd doing this to me? Cause I've done something to him. Like, I mean, it just feels like the two of them were defending Todd. And I was like, damn. And Whitney's like, yeah, you just bored your heart

and soul to us, you know? And I was like, wake up heart and soul. That was a fun story, you know? And then your heart and soul were like, ma. And then they put on pinatas and started beating them. And I was like, wait a minute, why are you beating up pinatas in Port of Myarta? What is going on?

Whitney, you exploited my pinata. What is going on? Whitney, you exploited my pinata. Then Whitney says, I mean, you said probably like one of the most vulnerable things you could share. Watching Whitney try to get through the word vulnerable. Did you notice that? She goes, it was one of those- She says in the bouncer way, she calls it vulnerable.

That's what they say. They take a lot of the vowels out and they say vulnerable. It's like a different word. It's like she hit a speed bump in the middle of it. It was like one of the most vulnerable things you could share. So she goes, yeah, they're defending a cheater instead. And it hooks home to them and it's a trigger

because it's something they've both been through or been accused of because they've both been accused of infidelity. Okay, then why weren't you triggered? Yeah. Be quiet. Yeah. So then Heather's like, well, they side with Todd because they've been on that side of it, but they want to be forgiven. That's what she says, which is like, oh, so they both, so Heather basically is both like, yeah, they both been cheated and they wanna be forgiven. Well, season one, that was the merit of the storyline, that she went on dates when she and Seth were separated. Supposedly, the rumor was that her and Jen Shaw were like fucking the same guy in New York, remember?

That was crazy. Oh, yeah. Oh God, back in the day. This show is wonderful. It really is. But there was lots of rumors that Seth was cheating. Then there were rumors that they were swingers. But the only rumor I heard that Lisa was cheating was the Whitney thing that she was doing

just for jazz tickets. Oh, right. So Whitney was like, yeah, they're sticking up for like, don't talk about it. Okay, I'll just stop you there, Whitney. Listen, it happened with Gwen and her grandparents too. Lisa kept saying, oh, they have this big house

and they're so handsome and Gwen's dad is handsome and they're so nice and they're so beautiful and they're so wealthy. And that's like not how I feel about a family who in the past has denied or ignored or refused to claim or get to know my child. And Whitney's like, yeah, Lisa has a hard time

going beyond the surface. Those things matter to her and they're important to her. So she's like gonna point out like the image of like, can someone finish my sentence for me? I don't have anything else to say to get to the period. And then it was like, well, I think it would just be hard for her to imagine anyone not wanting to be friends with someone that was rich and beautiful and cool,

which is true. I mean, I think all of this is valid so far. And Bronwyn's like, well, you know, I was surprised and I was not, you know, like you two understand what it feels like to be put in a place as a wife and a woman and whatever. I don't know, Whitney is like literally cheated with a man who was married with the family.

So I think we can believe Whitney. I think she's talking about Mormonism. I think she's talking about Mormonism. Cause she says, Oh, she said it feels like to put in a place. Like you guys feel like it feels what it's like to be put in your place. Is that what she's saying?

I think she meant, I think it's basically what she's saying is like in Mormonism when you're kind of told like think it's basically what she's saying is like in Mormonism, when you're kind of told like, this is what a woman's role is. Cause she said, I don't think these and Meredith have experienced that culturally. Oh, okay. Right. They weren't raised.

So she's like, and understand what that feels like to be in a really narrowly defined role for yourself, you know? So they're standing up for Todd cause they don't understand it. Like is this all he can do? And again, I don't think that's what Meredith was saying. I think she was saying, don't feel bad that he doesn't love you. I think this is, he doesn't know how to show love.

It's his fault for not understanding to be, it's his fault for not being able to understand how to show you love, not your fault for being unlovable. I think, I feel like Meredith was trying to be supportive. I don't like this. Now, the stuff they're saying about Lisa, I mean, yeah, I'm not gonna stand up for that. There is something going on and there's a reason you're over here in our villa. And maybe when you're having that moment, maybe she didn't take it as serious as it is. I don't know. Where's the tatsuki? Am I right? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, hold on.

Head nods coming, head nods coming. So you're saying you don't think she believed what I was saying? Is that what you're saying? Okay, no, that's not what anybody is saying. Are you saying I'm a snob? So now she's taken yet another thing that she's gonna twist and turn around

and throw in someone's face. What I'm telling you. So here we go. So now we see a plane flying over and then Mary comes to the hotel in someone's face. I'm telling you. So here we go. So now we see a plane flying over and then Mary comes to the hotel in a golf cart. So here comes Mary. Yes, and Mary is saying that,

you know, when she found out about Robert, she had to do something. So we see a flashback. It's a really nice flashback where she's basically, like he's gonna be going off to rehab. She found a facility, she prayed over it, she found a facility. And what she's basically like, he's going to be going off to rehab. She found a facility. She was, she prayed over it. She found a facility and what she's most happy about is that he wanted to do it and that he was ready and that this is his choice because she can't make him,

you know, want to change. It has to be come from him. So we see a really lovely scene of, of, of her, he gets into a van, they go off to, she gets him situated in, in rehab. And it is, it's a nice scene and we just have to have our fingers crossed, you know, cause we know that's just the beginning of a very long journey for that kid. Yeah. So she gets to the girls, she's with Meredith and,

she's with a couple of girls and basically, and Meredith goes, why didn't you come yesterday? Why don't I have my Mary? And she's like, well, I was like, you know, and then, um, then it came and they would just, they just all went, okay. I have a prediction for the reunion is that Meredith is gonna say when I asked you Why are you or daily you didn't share with me and it really hurt my feelings that you couldn't share with me about Robert We've been so close for so many years and that you couldn't share the thing with me and I've shared so much about Brooks I really hurt Mary. I guarantee that's gonna be a moment Oh god, please let her not be so stupid as to use that against somebody.

Please. So, um, then, you know, Mary goes to say hi to people and she goes to Angie's room and they run to each other and jump in each other's arms and love each other. What? I don't know. I was shocked by how, how darling I thought this. This was so sweet when Mary walked in and how happy Angie was and that they did run into each other's arms. It reminded me of like seeing a cheesy video on Instagram about like a soldier coming back from war and surprises their kid

or something like that. Or like someone being reunited with like their pet, like, you know, those like sweet videos where they play the cheesy music and you want crying on social media, but like just watching Angie and Mary just like a little video of the kids of the babies running to each other. I mean, they ended up using that video for stupid political reasons later, but which were horrible. But the original video is just so cute of the little babies from like seeing each other and then running down the sidewalk with their arms open and just

like jumping at each other and holding each other. Yeah, just the way they hugged each other and then running down the sidewalk with their arms open and just like jumping at each other and holding each other. Yeah, just the way they hugged each other. I was like, this is so sweet. Oh yeah. I loved it. You know, Mary loves Angie because she's positive and she needs that and they get each other

and they just keep hugging, you know. And so then it's dinner, it's dinnertime and it's a Vita themed dinner and it is so ridiculous. It's one of the most ridiculous themed dinners of all time. Vita is huge, it's imprinted on everything. It's all over the walls, all over the blades, all over the, you know, the waiters are like faces, you know? The waiters are dressed as different letters.

Like one guy comes out as like a V, one guy's an I. They're so jealous of the I guy because he basically gets to have his arms. I like to have tattoos with letters on them. So Lisa's just talking about how like, you know, this is where they grow their they grow all their the stuff for the piñas for the tequila, etc. Etc. And Vita means life. And then Whitney, Whitney has the balls to say, it feels less like I'm stepping into a dinner party

and more like I'm stepping into a cheesy Vita tequila commercial. Like how many Prism events have we had to sit through on this show, Whitney? Come on now. I know she's not wrong, but still it's Whitney. And she goes, but I don't think they can even afford to do commercials.

So, oh please, weren't you the one that had like a stupid charcuterie tray set up for influencers to come for free and post everything from your thing? Whatever Whitney. So then Lisa's like, cheers to Mary being in Puerto Rico. Oh my God, I love a good starter salad. Not you, Mary, sorry. Did I just call Mary a starter salad?

That's crazy. Mary, thank you for being such a good nicoise. Wait, what am I talking about? I love a good starter salad. That should be like a yearbook quote. Lisa Barlow, I love a good starter salad. I love a good starter salad. Ha ha ha. like a yearbook quote, Lisa Barlow. I love a good starter salad.

So, um, and the Mary's looking at like, uh, there's like one of those like tomato mozzarella, like a caprese stack. And she's like, Ooh, I want that. And Brittany wants salt and pepper. And it's like, and then, um, Mary's basically Mary's like, where's my food? And they go, what'd you order? And she said, I ordered mozzarella and tomato, and then I also ordered like a pastrami soup.

And they just all look at her. And no one says anything, and Meredith goes, did you say pastrami soup? I've never heard of pastrami soup. And they say, no, wait, wait, what is that? Did you mean stroganoff? What is that? There's no such thing as stroganoff soup either.

And so, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, about masturbation. Oh. It was minestrone. It was minestrone. They're like, oh. So then Heather's like, I can think of zero soups that contain pastrami. How does Heather not have a podcast yet? This is just like such a mess. Like what soups even have pastrami? Okay, everybody come to Patreon

if you wanna hear us talk about pastrami soup. I just wanna say, I did a quick Google search of pastrami soup and I've already got, okay, here's some things that have shown up. Number one, slow cooker white bean and pastrami soup, white beans, and then there's another one called Reuben soup, which that seems a bit, I don't know about that. And then French onion pastrami soup.

Actually pastrami would be delicious in soup. It's like highly seasoned. It's salty, strong. I'm for it. I'm for pastrami soup. Nasty, nasty. So then she does a pastrami bit. And then Ron was like, I don't know who she a pastrami bit. And then Bronwyn's like,

I don't know who she asked pastrami soup for pastrami soup from, but I don't think that's coming. I just don't, I don't think that exists. So then now we talk, now we're asking how Meredith feels. Brittany keeps going, Meredith, how are you feeling? Brittany's as subtle as ever. How are you feeling, Meredith? And Meredith's like, I am good. I'm fucking Britney. She loves this. As subtle as ever. How are you feeling, Meredith? And Meredith's like, I am good.

How about you? And Meredith is giving her this look like, what are you up to, Britney? And Meredith also has like a lip liner or something. So she has like a sort of a strong outline on her lips, which makes it when she frowns all the more exaggerated. And Britney is like, are you feeling okay? I am good.

Good, cause you were talking about being tired and I hope it's okay to say it, but I heard you crying last night, you know? And Mary was like, you're crying? I was upset last night and I cried. And Bron was like, I mean, if you don't want to talk about it, we don't have to talk about it,

but I do feel awkward because it's warmed its way all the way through the rooms. To me, when I was getting glam done, that you were crying and throwing up as well, right? So that was there. There was a lot to be concerned about because, you know, that's what I heard. So...

No, I did not throw up. What I did was I emptied a vase into the toilet because I didn't like the color of the water. So what may have sounded like throw up. And at the same time, I also was trying emptied a vase into the toilet because I didn't like the color of the water. So what may have sounded like throw up. And at the same time, I also was trying to get a fish bone out of my throat. So if you heard water in the toilet, I'm going, ah, that explains it.

Thank you. I was crying too. What, what I'm trying, I'm eating, trying to, trying to eat. Like, did he throw up? Did you not throw up? Did you throw up? And then Lisa's like, who did you tell?

And Heather's like, oh, she told me. She told me and I told Angie. She's just spreading around everywhere. So then we see a flashback of that. And then Meredith is like, I did not throw up. Wait, can we just, I'm trying to eat. Can I eat? Can I just, can I have my soup?

Mary's like, I finally get my food. Why are we talking about throw up? I feel like my food is starting to look like throw up. You cannot talk about throw up while I'm trying to eat. What's the matter? Where's the manners? And to be fair, she's eating minestrone soup. And if you look at minestrone soup, the wrong way, it does kind of look like throw up. So a hundred percent. Well, I'm glad that you find it all to be such an interesting sometimes just to be clear I was just telling you it doesn't it doesn't sound like you don't want her talking it sounds like you don't want her talking about it America's I appreciate and I was upset about the slot shaming, so I cried. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I was because of slot shaming.

I couldn't believe that someone would shame slots at my bat mitzvah, so I started to cry. She's so full of shit. So then Whitney's like, wait a minute, this is confusing, meth. No, this life. Well, that too. What were we talking about?

So she's like, Meredith and Angie just made up at dinner. So what the fuck? Now she's crying over slut shaming. She's like, she goes, I had no idea. She was an advocate for the sluts of America. Meredith, do you feel resolved with me? Well, I have moved on emotionally now and I don't wanna go backwards.

And so Lisa jumps in and goes, I think that Meredith should say how she feels instead of saying, I don't wanna talk about it. And she's like, Lisa, we agreed to stay out of each other's stuff and you need to stay out. And she's like, she's like, oh, oh, wait, don't tell me what to do and what not to do, ah! And you are going to keep egging this on.

What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? What am I going to do, Lisa? What am I going to do? What am I, maybe I will lunge at you. Maybe I will take a play from your book and lunge at you. Come on, you keep getting in the middle.

You are being a pizza. I don't get in the middle. I do not get in the middle. I was trying to help you fix things. Which actually, if you actually look at the quote that Lisa said and reading it back, we just saw it. When Lisa was saying to Meredith, Meredith, you should say how you feel

rather than saying you want to move forward. So that was actually Lisa saying, Meredith, you should say how you feel rather than saying you wanna move forward. So that was actually Lisa saying, Meredith, you should say something now. So it was a little bit- She wasn't defending her, right? She wasn't defending her. Yeah.

She was saying, come on, Meredith, step up to the plate. So then Lisa's like, oh wow, do you feel like a badass right now? She's like, I do not feel like that. Why do, how come when people talk to you, you think they're trying to have a problem or they are trying to be a bad ass.

And she's like, you're not the boss of me, Angie. She's like, you are not the boss. You should find someone else who is a boss. You are not a boss. She is telling me to make peace with you. And Lisa goes, you don't like that. I'm not agreeing with you. I'm not agreeing with you. I'm not agreeing with you.

I think you do start things. And when people react to you, then you're like, oh my God, you're the problem. And you miss the fact that you incited things. And when he's like, it's interesting when it's about your feelings, you want us all to care. But if it's our feelings, you don't. And nobody gives a fuck about my feelings with me,

especially you. And she's like, uh-huh, actually don't. And nobody gives a fuck about my feelings with me, especially you. And she's like, uh-huh, actually I do. No, I did. But maybe look at that as how your friends feel because you get to be the dictator and I get to pick and choose which dicks you tits. That doesn't make sense and I don't get to be the dictator,

but you know what? You know what I get to do? I get to protect my fucking self. And that's what I will always do. You're a dictator. And guess what? Just because I wanted to be friends and the minute I stood up for myself,

you turned your back and left the friendship. Which is not really what happened either with me. As I recall. Not a true witness. You did some fucked up stuff and you're lucky. You're lucky that I like even look at you or talk to you for the things that you've done to me. You're not a victim.

You're a fucking lying bitch. You are, you are. So then Brahma goes, well, here's the thing. It's just everyone just stay out of this. And she's, oh, well, why do I get told to do by Lisa fucking Barlow? Oh my God. You just said that and she didn't tell you what to do, but you tell me what to do all the time.

Oh my God. Bron was being left out everybody. So let's let her in now. So she goes, Lisa just goes, Bronwyn, I'll get to you next. Yeah. Why do you say stuff like I'll deal with you later or I'm not going to hear from you? Well, it's a constant nitpick. That's always an issue. Well, I'm trying to I'll deal with you later, or I'm not gonna hear from you? Well, it's a constant nitpick that's always an issue.

Well, I'm trying to have a conversation with you. Yeah, well, we're friends, and there's always an issue, and I'm like, exhausted. But it's not always an issue, it's the same issue, and I never get all the way done with you. I'm just never all, you're just never all the way done. Just finish your meal, finish your fucking meal, oh my God. I'm like fucking sick of all this.

Like for real. It's like dish, dish, dish. I try to be friends with you. I'm like, I bet I really could front to you, Bronwyn. And Bronwyn was like, no, Lisa, honestly, I appreciate you liking my husband, but the way that you responded to what I was saying today made me not only believe that A,

maybe you didn't believe me or you didn't really give a fuck or that honestly you kind of stood up for Todd more than you did for me and Mary goes Hmm. She's really she's really hurt. She's really who's that? She's her well, so waiter. I think that Bronwyn Well, I think that Bronwyn you have been tough on the exterior and you've divulged more in this group than a lot of people have in years. And Lisa, I just met her and I know more about her marriage than I know about your entire life in one hour.

Oh my gosh, I talked to you about my kids. I talked to you about my sons. Like, okay. And it's like, and you are guarded, but that's who you are. And Lisa, why are you getting all snarky? It's like, because I'm upset. Stop talking about your feelings. This really hurts Lisa. And this one, this, this is kind of hurtful. And so Lisa's like, I just can't believe like Angie saying this to me. Like we used to be so close. I share with her so much. I was like, I went to Wendy's today,

or like, I went to Taco Bell today, or like, I got a Coke today. I like tell you all about the things I ate, and like, why would you say that's like not real? Like, what? Like, you want me to say I ate a salad? I do love a good starter salad though. But it is odd because Angie's normal complaint

about Lisa for the whole season is that she just has to sit on the phone and listen to Lisa talk for hours on hours on end about herself. And now she's saying Lisa never talks about herself. So I guess she means on a more emotional level, but again, it's like Meredith said, it's like, what do you expect?

It's Lisa, you know, this is where she is. Like you can't just make non-emotional people emotional just because you need that. Go get it from an emotional person. So then Lisa's like, she's crying and she's like, wow, you're not really even my friend. You were never my friend. And then Mary's like, did you not get your pastrami soup

either, because this is not what I ordered. So Lisa's crying and then they're like, why are you crying? And she's like, it doesn't matter. And I was like, it does matter. I'm fucking going home. So Lisa gets up on the table and cries off and it's like, oh my God. And then Mary just looks at the camera and goes,

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