Watch What Crappens - #2695 RHOP S9E16: Drag Ging

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

Ashley becomes a drag queen on Real Housewives of Potomac, and Gizelle and Karen deserve that Mia needs some drag ging. To watch this recap on video, listen to our Traitors bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Tickets for the Mounting Hysteria Tour are now on sale at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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to talk about on yield robs. How are you doing over there, Bam? Oh my god, I am. I'm really excited. I'm really, really very excited. How are you doing? Good. I'm Ronnie, really very excited. How are you doing? Good. Um, I'm Ronnie, everybody. Welcome to the show. It is Monday. We're doing this a little late today cause I was traveling, but, um, here we are to knock them out tonight. It's crappy hour.

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because we know we're gonna talk 10 hours about it. So come see that, we're so excited to see you guys. Two weeks after that, we'll be in Salt Lake City and Denver, but guess where we're gonna be in between? February 1st in New York City, we'll be on Broadway at Town Hall doing the golden crappy awards. There's like very few tickets left, so go get them. That show's gonna be fucking amazing.

We're working on it every day and we're really excited about it. Okay. The set. Yeah, actually, uh, we just looked at the seat map. There really are like a handful of tickets left. However, however, you can still see it because we are proud to announce two things. One is that we have a streaming partner for the show that we just, we just got it all set up and streaming tickets are on sale now. So now you can watch the golden crappies anywhere in the world. So,

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And then the second thing is that round two of the crappies voting, like the big voting round has now begun. Now when you vote, there are five, sometimes six, six in a category, but there are five nominees in each category, like a real award show. And who you vote for, yeah, it is real. It's who you vote for is going to determine

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Yeah, and that's a really fun streaming show too, because it's a huge chat room full of, you know, a couple thousand people who will be talking about the show and talking shit during the show. So that's going to be super fun. So join us for that. And now let's get into Real Housewives of Patome. Patome will be doing Southern hospitality later on.

For those of you who are wondering where the hell that is. I went to a 30 year reunion for a dinner theater in Florida with my fellow apprentice from when I was 19. Can you believe that shit? So I did that this weekend. I felt really young still cause they're all still older than me. So that felt good. Um, and so we're starting a little late today, but Potomac we took off last week, mostly because we were just so busy. We had too much stuff and it pissed us off.

The show pissed us off. Now I said in just kind of an offhanded comment, like they're queer baiting. I got a couple of DMS that were like, it's not queer baiting. Don't, buy erasure, Ronnie, buy erasure. Those women are bisexual. I'm not erasing anybody's goddamn bisexuality.

And I probably misspoke by using the word queer baiting. Sorry. But what I meant was they're using fake lesbian, oh my God, it's a girl kissing a girl to bait you and be giving a shit about the season where nothing is going on. So maybe I could have found a better term for it. I'll work on that.

Good, good, work on that, Ronnie. I will say also, like the last, more than that, like that girl on girl action. It was just, was a, it was a kind of a boring episode, like nothing really happened. And, you know, to people who are like, yeah, but Roni can be really boring. I agree. But you know what they say? The opposite of love is not hate. It's indifference. And I felt very indifferent about the Potomac episode wherein I often hate the

Roni episodes. So like when you feel indifferent about, when you watch an episode and you're like, oh, nothing really happened. I don't feel one way or another. I just feel like time passed and I watched talking. Sort of like that movie, A Real Pain. Then it's sort of like, okay, well, you know, like if we have to cut an episode, that's what it'll be.

Like Rooney will make your blood boil and we'll be like, ah, fuck this show. But then we'll like, don't we need to talk about it? Cause we're feeling things. So, you know, that's some of the, that's some of the logic that we apply. Yeah. But here we are. We came back with it.

We're not leaving it. We would never leave Potomac forever. Just one little, one little moment in time, but we're back Potomac, we're back. So this one is season nine, episode 15, old rumors die hard. Hmm. Yes. So we're seeing everyone's back from Panama, is season nine, episode 15, Old Rumors Die Hard. Mm, yes. So we're seeing, everyone's back from Panama,

the really amazing Panama vacation, and we're seeing Karen and Ray, they're going to go play golf, and Ray's like, time for some golf, and she's like, oh God, Ray, those clubs look heavy, where's the caddy? And he's like, you're the caddy. I'm like, are you sure you want Karen driving that golf cart?

You may never see those clubs again. They'll be at the bottom of a lake. And it was like yelling fire in a crowded theater. I mean, he said, you're the caddy, Karen. And then deer from all over the forest just started running. It was like a stampede. It caused an earthquake on the golf course, okay? Those deer were so fucking scared.

They're like, please no, don't give the golf course. Okay, those deer were so fucking scared. Like, please, no, don't give him the keys to anything. And then the most amazing part is as they're walking, their car starts and Karen's like, Ray, you started my car again. He's like, Oh, well, it's amazing. You know, it's so funny because when you start the car, we always have to blow into something and me I just touch this button and it just lights right up isn't that funny? Back in the day we used to need oil for cars but all you have to do is blow into a car. You've literally had so much to drink that you can start the cars with your voice. Ray that's not why I blow into that thing god damn it. Ray if you hold down the button too long it locks the car Ray, if you hold down the button too long, it locks the car.

No, it starts the car. So when you hold down on the button, the crank begins on its own. No, Ray, there's no crank on the car. Are you sure? So now you guys, I don't know if you knew this, this is crazy, something that happened in this episode, because we haven't been reminded of this in a while.

Giselle has daughters. Okay, so Giselle is out with her daughters right now and they're shopping and stuff. And they're talking about guys in college. And she's like, so what's your advice, Grace, for your sisters before they go to college? And Grace is like, well, first of all, these guys are gonna approach you because they're like itching for girls. So be well, first of all, these guys are gonna approach you

because they're like itching for girls. So beware, the Ubers, the DoorDash, the bank account might look rough, but don't check. Just know that God has it on lock. Easy to say when you're literally the recipient of tithes through your father. I don't think you should allow your children who make money from your percentages of tithes

to walk around saying God's got it on lock. Now, those people are being tricked. Giselle's like, no, no, no, grace, stop. No, no, God does not have it on lock. No, stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Ah. This, by the way, this episode is interesting because Giselle has two daughters going away to school and we get to see it all getting teased out in one fell, not in one fell swoop, but like this, you would think that they're just gonna be going off to school and be gone. But in this case, only one goes off to school. That means we have to get to do even more stuff

with the second one later on as she goes to school. We'll get it. And it's cute because these girls are off making fresh memories. And then the next scene we go to like Melissa Gorgas old memories and we end up at Shakers. Yes, Shakers is a I guess a gay bar and there's gonna be a drag event and Ashley is meeting with King Molasses who's a drag king and Ashley's like, you know, I've been watching you on Instagram

a lot and I'm like mesmerized. And King Malanus is like, appreciate that. You know, hopefully we'll be doing the very same thing on this day. I know it's a humble setup, but you know, I've seen your show before. So it seems like this kind of matches the sort of events you guys do, right? Shakers is the place that Melissa like was a stripper,

not a stripper, but like a go-go girl at, right? Wasn't it called Shakers on the- I thought that was Erika Jayne. Was that Erika Jayne? Was that a physical Shakers? Oh, did Erika Jayne work it? Real? Or was it like, Bombolones or something?

Shakers. Okay, prepare to be shaking, physically shaking. Daniel Staub, Erika Jayne danced at Shakers. Okay, so it was Daniel Staub and Erika Jayne. Sorry, Melissa Gorga, sorry, I forgot the name of hers. But yeah, they dance to this show. She just shakes it at envy. Yeah.

I messed up my Bravo lore. So yeah, so Shakers is this bar. And so Ashley does a lot of drag shows throughout the year. And so she is going to be a drag king now. Now, can I just say, you know, the drag community is so amazing and I went to see RuPaul live when it came to Austin. It was so good.

And I don't watch the show regularly because like you said, it's like a Marvel universe where if you don't keep up with the lore, you don't know what the fuck is going on. But I was amazed at how talented these girls were. I mean, just the dancing, the high jumps, the splits. And now let me just say after seeing King Molasses, you guys have a lot to catch up to

because King Molasses can't even do a box step on the rhythm, okay? King Molasses, go over to RuPaul and check how they're doing it. They showed some King Molasses in action. I can see why you're called Molasses. King Molasses had like that kind of like swivel and then like point thing that he was doing, you know, right?

Yes. Yeah. That's, you know, maybe the drag king arts. I don't know much about drag kings, but maybe we, you know, like maybe those arts have not been funded as well. Well, yeah. And I think that, you know, drag,

traditional drag is like men who are just wanting to be fabulous, so they become these fabulous women. Whereas when it's reversed, it's like, you wanna be a guy? Like who, why? It's like, cause the guys are just like, hey, hey, I've got a number everybody. I'm gonna lip sync my dad explaining something to me that I already knew.

It's like, what are you gonna do, man explaining lip syncing? Well, and the other thing is now this, I mean, but I think is fascinating about being a drag king is that like women in like traditional sort of like fashion or whatever, you know, women wear dresses, you know, and men would wear pants. But like, it's obviously no one bats an eye when you see a woman wearing pants or whatever.

Like women have been able to take on masculine appearances, quote unquote, masculine appearances. But like for men, like the moment you wear anything that like has like a slight twinge of like femininity, it's like pussy gay boy, you know? So like there's also like with drag queens, I feel like there's a way to be like, aha, I'm gonna do it all in a way that you said I never could.

Now, I don't know, cause I'm not an academic about this stuff. So I may be just talking out of my ass, but I also am a podcaster and you know, that sometimes is what happens. It's an occupational. Well, it's interesting because the, kind of the traditional roles,

like you've said are so upended now. But in the drag community, they're not necessarily in the drag community. It's like women are like big body women and glitter and big boobs and big hair. And then the drag kings are like, I'm a, you know, sexy man in suits. And so I think it's funny that they at the end of the day, the gay people are the ones upholding the rules set up by the patriarchy in the first place. You know what? I never thought about it like this

until a scene from Shakers. So I would like to thank Professor Melissa Gorgas. Wait, hold on. I have to apologize again. Let me apologize to the Academy of the school. I apologize to professors, Erica Jane and Danielle Staab. So Ashley is talking about how she likes singing and dancing and she did musicals and plays and music videos.

And we see some of her greatest hits, including her performing Coffee and Love, a few different Pride events. And then most recently, this like living and thriving song that she performed earlier in the season that, you know, forgot to put that on the ballot for most cringe because that really should have been on the ballot like her singing that song well i guess because she's saying it fresh right it was yeah because it was like her at that gna event she's like so am i carry on that's the best lyric I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you,

I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you,

I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you,

I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I would really like to use something that's like business attire. Like I want to like slick back hair. I want to be like American psycho originally was like. So yeah. Actually, you just want to, you just want to sit on a counter. Just do that.

That's a guy thing to do. Just like, do you have a kitchen counter that I could just come in here and sit on? It's how I'm raising my sons. Just sit in a chair and put your knees in opposite directions and take up everyone else's space. And that's like a very, I feel like that's a very masculine energy thing. So they work on some stuff and then we get a wacky

slideshow of like lesson one, the slide. And King Molasses is trying to teach Ashley moves, but I don't know, it's kind of the blind leading the blind, let's be honest. Molasses is no Fosse. moves, but I don't know, it's kind of the blind leading the blind, let's be honest. Molasses is no Fosse. So then- This was not Fosse. No, this was like, one of the moves was,

okay, and now you will sit on the counter. It's like, here's a dance move, hop onto the counter. And she's like, oh! I'm like, okay. Well. I already told my kids how to do this. So then, it's like some wacky practicing stuff. And so she's like, can I get some ripoff pants?

Cause I want to throw them on somebody. And she's telling us that she invited everybody plus her mom, plus Josh, because, and then we see a shot of the flyer. Hi beauties, I'm excited to share this flyer with you. And feel free to channel your inner masculinity too. Yeah. So-

If I ever got that invitation, I would flash it. How dare you tell me to flash my inner masculinity? How dare you? I was like, you know what? I already did my fantasy football draft of the year. Okay, I did it. And I flashed my masculinity. Yeah, I watched the traders once a year on Peacock. That's enough for me.

And I also watched Love Island. I'm basically growing a, a vagina loving penis at this point. I'm probably going to turn straight soon. I've watched a lot of straight things this year. Let me tell you something. I just listened to one of my Dave Matthew CDs. So my masculinity, my straight bro is still here and with us. That would be my drag king persona. I would just be in like a flannel and like baggy jeans, not baggy, but just like ill-fitting jeans

and being like crash into me. It's kind of already me except Patti LuPone songs. So now we go to Kierna who is at her med spa, which is exciting. And Giselle comes over, she's like, wow, my house. And so Giselle is like, Kierna, like the name on the wall and everything. She's like, yeah, welcome to KCWRT. And she's like, wow, wow, this is amazing. This is like a high rent district here. So we find out that she knows her,

she's known her forever through Cal. And we see a flashback where she's like, wow, you've come a long way since you were using Cal as your guinea pig. I was like, really? Cause you're the guinea pig for Cal now. Is that where Cal got it? Because I've seen Cal try a lot of bad wigs

on you over the years. But I do have to say that Cal has gotten a lot better over the years, because have you seen pictures from season one? Like whenever they reach out season one, I'm like, oh my God, how is that even Giselle? Like it doesn't even look like her personality, but yeah, he's done a good job.

I think he's improved. Get yourself a guinea pig. I was just watching some, yeah, I was just watching some old seasons of Potomac, like an hour ago. I was like browsing through them and I was looking through like season three or four and yeah, a lot of interesting looks.

And I also revisited Robin's, her reunion hair that she had, with the season where they were all dressed in yellow, I think it was season five, and she had that like yellow hair that was, it was like spaghetti hanging on a rack. It was, it was,

it was, that was an interesting choice. That gave me a hiccup. Yeah. So, Kierna is gonna like, she's like,

she's showing her stuff and everything. She's gonna leave her. And for a moment it looks, yeah, well, for a moment it looks like we're gonna have a return of the vaginal rejuvenation segment that used to plague Bravo, but it doesn't really happen, does it? We just allude to it.

No, they threaten us. Cause she's like, oh, people get their hair waxed. Do they do their vajayjays? Yeah, so you've never heard of vajayjay lasering or whatever? What is it, waxing or lasering or whatever? And Kieran was like, yeah, that's why people do it. That's like the number one value meal here is macoochee macoochee macrack.

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Let's make this year our best one yet, baby. So they're joking, but then Wendy arrives and she has a flat tire and she's like, oh my God, what happened to this? What is this? Who do I even call about this? And so she calls somebody and she's like, I have a flat tire.

And they're like, your account, your credit card is expired. She's like, not expired. Mm. It's like, not expired. Like, ma'am, also this is a Starbucks. Oh my God, can you fix this anyway? Just put some cups around my tire. Let me drive on the street. I don't think I've ever actually felt like a Wendy before

this episode when she's just like, who do I call? My tire is flat. And coming up at 2 p.m. at Cinemark on 58th Street. It's like that's 777 Film. Who are you calling? That's Moviefone from 1990. You called 1-800-M-H-E-T-R-E-S. You left the last S off for savings, Wendy.

Someone just comes and drops a bag of quarters. Like, you saved. 800, five, five, five, three, two, one, empire today. I don't even know their number. I just know that stupid jingle. They're like, leave your car on the side of the road for cars for kids today. Not one eight seven seven cars for kids.

No. Why do they have to have such a memorable number? Someone's got a brand new tire for me. Food Emporium, Food Emporium. Wait, why is Food Emporium You've been singing about my tire. Well, there's just random people now. She's like, I have a flat tire. Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce, special orders.

Don't upset us. All we ask is that you let us have it your way. Wait a minute, how did I call you? Oh, oh, oh, oh, Riley, auto-parsing. Now that's actually a little bit on theme. It's on theme. Yeah, that would have been a good call actually. So they're like, your credit card's expired

and she's mortified. I think I've had this moment happen to me multiple times. But here's a question. If my credit card's expired, why don't you send me a new one? What, I gotta call you and fucking beg you? Do you want me to spend money on your credit card or Capital Ones? Cause I'll do, I'll spend my old Navy card.

I don't care. If it's expired, I'm not using it again until you send me one, so send me one. I just want to clarify something. I think that what happened here was that her AAA account had expired, not the credit card. And so they're like, oh, so when they're like, it expired. She's like, what, it expired, just renew me.

They're like, yeah, we'll renew it for you. So chances are she probably got a million letters from AAA, because that's what AAA does, is that they just flood you with envelope after envelope after envelope. Like you want AAA life insurance, you want, oh, are you interested in vegetable dressing, salad dressing, AAA does that too.

Oh, staplers, you want one? Just go out this forum. Nothing to worry about here. Please be seated. We've got the balsamic vinaigrette for your salad. I know it's been a rough morning on you. Glad we're here now. Vinaigrette Association of America.

Yeah, so she probably ignored all her renewal notices, but that's what I think happened. But she's now mortified that she's sitting here in the front of this day spa with a flat tire. Yeah, and she's like, yeah, you know, I mean, my tire light came on, I just ignored it like you do. And they're like, you ignored your tire light?

I got into my car and my tire lights on and I still drove. Tire lights always on. If it gets cold, the tire light comes on. If it gets hot, the tire light comes on. Tires are the new divas. They need a lot of attention, these fucking tires. That tire light, it's like it lives to be turned on. It's like, guys, I'm doing it.

I'm turning myself on. I'm 0.1 PSI lower than all the other tires and I want justice. Excuse me, Mr. Mandelka. I just wanna let you know that the front left tire is only at 26 PSI. Everything else is at 27, you know what? Take it as advice, do with that what you will.

I'm not your mother. Listen, all I'm saying is I just want you to know, but you know what? So wrong that I let you know about your tire. I'll just go back to my work. I'm gonna read the David Brooks column at the Times. How's my tire pressure? Could be better let you know about your tire? I'm just go back to my work. I'm going to read the David Brooks column of the times. How's my tire pressure? Could be better. No, it could be worse, but it could be better.

I like, I want that in the, in the machine when you put the, when you fill up the tire and it says like, what, what it is, it's like, could be better. Yeah. So happens happens I feel pretty good right now. We'll drive another day. So she goes and meets the girls. Oh, sorry, go ahead. Yeah. And she says, ladies, so, you know, it gave me a notification that my tire pressure was

down and I was like, okay, and I'm just driving on the highway and I pull up and it's like, do, do, do, do, do, do, you know, I mean, sure, there was some smoke, there was some fire, you know, I couldn't, do, do, do, do. You know, I mean, sure, there was some smoke, there was some fire. You know, I couldn't get my car above 25 miles per hour. It felt like I was driving over 10 million logs. But like, I had no idea my tire was flat. And this is such a 2025 thing to say, even though it was said in 2024.

It's a modern thing to say. Giselle goes, the car should have stopped you. You know, that is so, no, it should not have stopped you. You know, that is so, no, it should not have stopped you. And that's what people say when they drink too much. They're like, I was over served. No, your ass drank too much. Don't blame the bartender.

Okay, you drunk, you drank too much. Gotta say that though now. That's one of those things that I've always hated that term, but I say that now. I'm like, I was over served. Well, this tire was over served, it seems like, with holes. And, but I don't think, I don't know that that's a function that cars have that if you get like a flat tire,

the car, entire car stops. I think that sounds so dangerous. Like you're on the highway, you like get like a flat and you just halt while every other car can just like ram you up the ass. I warned you about my PSI, you did nothing. I'm just gonna sit here. You can deal with the ramifications.

I am flat and I want everyone just to go around me. Okay, I'm not in the mood, I'm flat today. So they talk about her flat tire for too long because you know, it's the season. So then the associate brings in champagne. I don't think this happens much at Kiernes. I just don't believe it. So because you know why?

Because we were somewhere where they never gave us champagne. Oh, HD buttercup. They don't give me champagne, but on TV they give people champagne. So I don't believe this TV champagne. Yeah, no, no, no. No, I don't believe. I've never been served champagne. So I don't believe this TV champagne. Yeah, no, no, no, no, I don't believe I've never been served champagne. There's one time, there was one time I went into a fancy store and was browsing. And they they gave me champagne.

But other than that, no, never. Doesn't happen in real life. So they start talking about the champagne also, by the way. I had to tell a story and they were like, do you want some champagne? I was like, sure. I basically faked my champagne delivery. What was your story about? Like needing champagne?

No, I basically, no, this was last year when you were going. Was it champagne specific? I was like, so I am building a restaurant and we're looking to get champagne, so. No, I basically, I went to a store and I was looking for a suit for when we went to the I Heart Awards and I was like, I was basically like,

I'm going to an award show and they're like, excuse me. Like as soon as you say award show, they pull out that champagne. And I was like, oh, okay, well, I guess I'll have this champagne now. I'll pretend like I'm actually a Oscar nominee. Yeah, hell yeah. We should just go through life like that.

Hello, I'm going to an award show. Sorry. Excuse us. Hi, welcome. Welcome to Olive Garden. How can I help you? Oh, one moment. I'm going to an award show later.

What did you say again? Hmm. Um, I just have one request for this cast. Could you stop asking about Greg? Literally nobody cares about Greg. Why are we asking Kierna about Greg five times an episode? Greg is stupid. Greg is boring. Greg doesn't want to be on the show, get rid of Greg. I'm tired of Greg. And so they're like, what about your stupid relationship that nobody cares about? And she's like, oh, you know, I just don't know if I'm gonna,

I was thinking of hyphenating my name, but I'm just the kind of woman I would never hyphenate my name. I'm my name. Well, except he doesn't like that because he said a man should be a man and a woman should be a woman. So I'm just gonna take his last name,

but I'll still pretend I have my last name on my business. I was like, well, I don't know if this is a feminism storyline. I think you need to just get rid of that guy. That's it. Yeah, he seems just like a lump. He's a lump in a polo shirt, okay? And I'm telling you, I'm not on this show

because we've got uncle lump. We actually have a good lump. Okay, he is like an annoying low pressure light. He's like, I'm still a man. Hello, I just want to say everyone, hi, I'm a man. My light just went on. I just want to tell you I'm not going to hyphenate, because I'm a man.

I'm a man. I'm a man. Yeah. Where's my dinner? I like that. I have a man question, like stereotypical man question. Where's my dinner? You're man question. Where's my dinner? You're a lady, where's my dinner?

I don't know, where's your fucking door dash, bitch? Open it up. I can't watch any Greg storylines. I mean, you're also like, sir, you literally have a nonprofit that literally could stand to profit from the amount of publicity a show like this can give you, and actually like do good with that,

and you're still gonna be like, no, it's women arguing, oh man. No, come on, get over it. And even if you're not in it for the sole money of it and you're not like a money hungry shallow person like 90% of the rest of the world. I mean, it's still got stuff that it's giving you. I mean, it's handing you Mia on a silver platter.

If you're really just in it to do good, no one needs social work more than Mia's family. So be thankful for what the Lord has given you. You know what I mean, Greg? Stop fucking complaining, man. So Kieran is like, well, as long as I can be publicly Kieran, I'm from Seward, I don't have wrong meaning with genders.

So Kieran is like, I grew up in like a very middle-class household and both my parents are military and they got divorced when I was very young, but like, you know, my dad and I have a relationship and my mom's so independent and we see her mom coming through the spa and saying like, starting in Thanksgiving, we should talk about collecting cans and giving back and we want to do more B2B. I was like, yes, independent lady. But this was very much like Bravo, like business lady. Like I'm holding a manila envelope

because I care about business. I wanna do more B and B. It's like, okay, sure. Business. B to B, we're getting down B to B. What does B to B stand for? Business to business. Business to business.

That's how you know she's like a business woman. B to B. I'm not a business person. I didn't know what that was. IKR, BJB, IRL, am I right? To be H, this is very B2B. Yeah, come on, honey. We're doing more for this Christmas.

We're collecting cans. Mom, why did you take that bag of cans away from that person without a house? I win. So- Mom, Merry Christmas from the Karams. So, Kierna is like saying how it impacted her as a grown woman because she's like, I'm not going to take your shit.

And we see a flashback to Greg being, you know, a jerk as usual and Kierna just sitting there like, fuck this guy. I'm way too out of his league. And by the way, also Kierna on top of everything else, you are literally way too out of his league. And which by the way, also Kieran, on top of everything else, you are literally so far out of his league. I mean, he is really punching up with you. So, know your worth, know your worth. Yeah.

And, you know, he wants her to hold a broom. I want her to hold the broom too. I just want her to shove it up his ass. Like I can't take this guy. So he's like, yeah, I need to take care of you because I'm a man and things need to go like this. Blah, blah, blah. And she's like, I'm like, don't retire me. You need to leave.

He's not gonna change. He's not gonna change. So Gisele's like, well, I think it's a conversation about respect. He needs to respect the work that you have put in to be Kay Stewart. Rest in Stewart. I mean, you were in the vampire diaries.

No. No. What's the other one? You were in panic room. Speaking of which, I'm going to panic if I stay in this small room much longer. What's the deal with that broken down car out front? Sorry, that's mine.

Flat tire. Well, it wasn't vampire diaries. It was kiss of the vampire. Twilight. Yes, Twilight. So Ciaran is basically like, you know, she just wants him to see that it's like, whatever. She keeps talking.

She needs to stop, they need to stop this. Okay, change the subject. So then we start talking about Karen. Giselle does it really well. Giselle changes it really well. She goes, we haven't discussed Karen, by the way. We're 30 minutes into talking about this person, Greg. We haven't talked shade about Karen.

We just want a vacation with her. Let's make fun of her. Yeah. And they're like, oh my God, I'm so worried about Karen. Like this is taking a toll on her. I mean, she looks strikingly different. And they talk about how different Karen looks. I don't think Karen looks any different, do you?

No, I think maybe a little skinnier. She looks as different as any of them do when they come back from a season. If anyone looks different, it's Mia. Mia's always the one shape-shifting. Yeah, how can you tell when Karen's different? She always looks like different parts of a Chuck E. Cheese animatronic character shutting down

in between shows at the restaurant where like one of her eyes is flickering for a minute and then it just like closes and the other eye is still open and then the mouth is kind of like still half open. She's always in different states of Chuck E. Cheese shut down. Karen always gives me like sock puppet with googly eyes, you know, like I just feel like, like if you put up, she just has different socks on at any given time,

but it's still like that same sort of, especially when she does her mouth and she starts doing the sucking thing, it's very much like the way like a sock puppet, the fingers will come over the thumb. She's like, mm-hmm. And I think, you know, it's like the sock can change, but we recognize our sock puppet nonetheless.

Mm-hmm. So they talk about, oh my God, Karen's getting skinny. Okay, first of all, Wendy, didn't you just have a full body makeover? Like two years ago, what are you, what are we skinny shaming people for on this show? People are always getting skinny, you're real housewives. That's the, like that seems to be the running theme.

Actually, I mentioned that to her. I said, Karen, looks like you're getting skinny. Girl, margaritas while you drive, you should probably stop doing that. And she said she hasn't been eating, but Wendy's like, well, something is happening. And she goes, well, she's lost a lot of weight, but don't worry everybody, we don't have to call the police.

It's not Ozempic, ah, Ozempic, ah, Ozempic, ah. And then Kierna tells us. I think it's Ozempic. And it is Ozempic. But Karen in one of her like, I'm gonna be slammed by the public. Everybody hates Ozempic users. Instead of just saying she's on Ozempic,

everybody was accusing Ozempic people of trying to kill diabetics because they were stealing their medication. And so Karen's doing that thing where she's on ozempic, everybody was accusing ozempic people of trying to kill diabetics because they were stealing their medication. And so Karen's doing that thing where she's like, well, I'm partly diabetic. I was raised half diabetic. My father comes from a long, long line of half diabetics. I'm actually an eighth diabetic. I need it. I need it for my health. You know, one thing that we like to do in Surry County is we like to do a little bit of the gambling. And so one thing we do is we bet on ticks. We bet to see which tick is going to go the farthest. So in that way, I'm sort of a die, die hard bet, betting

tick sort of person. So hence diabetic. I bet ticks. And you know what's so sad? Apologies, everyone. I lose. I lose often against these ticks. These ticks are so crafty. I roll my dice. I roll my dice. I say, okay, get a higher die number tick. Cause I'm playing die or bet ticks.

That was a guitar. Karen's losing to dice games to ticks. She's losing dice games to ticks. So now it's the big Ozempic scandal. Dun, dun, dun. And Giselle's like, well, I don't think it's Ozempic. Gah, because I asked her about Ozempic. Gah.

It's Karen, though. Why are you believing Karen at face value? Yeah, and Wendy's like, well, I noticed on one of the nights in Panama, she went to bed really early. She looked really tired. I'm like, part of it is that you're on vacation. Part of it is that everyone around her is exhausting. Part of it is that she's in her sixties and maybe she's getting a little tired now. And part of it is also like, actually, yeah, like they're acting,

like it's crazy that you might be stressed out about a case that might send you away for two years in jail. And they're like, she seems really worried. She seems like something's on her mind. It's like, yeah, no shit Sherlock. Well, and also getting worried that somebody gets tired of hanging out with you a lot. I guarantee you half the audience went to bed before Karen did.

And Karen was like, no shade everyone, but it can really just be a weight loss side effect. Like it makes you sleepy. And Giselle's like, no. Way to sell it, Kierna. Jesus. It doesn't sound, it doesn't losing weight, sound fun, everybody. Get healthy. You'll just be exhausted all the time. Yeah. It's like a Kierna and Greg scene.

So Giselle is like, she was like, well, I thought it was stress over her case. See what I'm trying to do girls is use this as a way to get into talking about her case and how she what I'm trying to do, girls, is use this as a way to get into talking about her case and how she's going to go to jail, and why won't everyone talk about that? You guys keep talking about Ozempic. We need to talk about Karen going to jail.

Here I am thinking that Karen is stressed out because she's about to go to the clinker for running into a tree. And now you're, nope, you're taking shots in the butt. That's why you're upset. So then Karen was like, yeah, well, you know, Karen is, I mean, Karen's my girl and we share beauty tips all the time, so let me just say this.

If it's for diabetes, I understand. So when he's like, well, I don't know how to navigate it without feeling like I'm overstepping. And so they're gonna have this big talk with Karen. Nobody gives a shit. Everybody's on Ozempic. And if you guys aren't admitting it, you're gonna get caught soon anyway. You're fucking housewives, you're all on it.

I don't believe that. And since when does anyone ever care about overstepping on this show? So when you- Especially with Karen. You guys have been dragging Karen for weeks. The only reason you're not dragging her more is because she just bows out.

She's like, I can't speak about it. It's a very big case. So may I, may, may or may not have murdered my parents after possible abuse. And Ryan Murphy may or may not have made a show about it. Like Karen, you are not the Menendez brothers. Prove it, prove it, we'll see in court. Yeah, like I don't want to overstep with Karen. However, here's a basket full of Uber cards

that she can enjoy. And I left a pizza on her doorstep. So Wendy's phone rings and it's like the tow truck guy and she's like, oh, you outside? He's like, yes. She goes, oh my God, thank you so much. And he goes, my pleasure, love. And they all just like crack up.

They're like, whoa, whoa. We need to see this guy. We never, how do they not? I needed to see who this person was. I could not believe they didn't show us the guy. So. Hey love, I'll be right outside, ready to stick my hook into your bumper

and drag you through the city like the gorgeous beast you are. Well, we'll just have to imagine. Commercials, here comes one right now. Now, this is funny, we have a scene with Ray and G at a restaurant called Miss Toya's, which is also, it's like, Miss Toya's. Every time an order is up, you just hear, Uji, get the food. We have the Nomad MD appetizer. So they sit down and they're saying hi and everything

and they're just joking. It's like, you know, old guy talk. Right. So we have to talk about the old guy talk because it was so funny. First of all, how did the scene even happen? This shows come to a dark place when they're like, Ray, we need you to film a scene.

I know. All right, well I'll just hold Karen's purse. No, Ray not holding Karen's purse with another guy. How do I do that? I don't think we've ever seen it before. So they actually send G and Ray to a restaurant and Ray is like, so have you been out and about at all? And G goes, well, mostly an air conditioner

because my big toe starts to ache. I have scouts. Can you please do more of this? People needs a ache. I have gout. Can you please do more of this? People need some. It's like, I have gout. So we've come to the pool a couple of times, but we don't go until it's like four in the afternoon and Ray's like, oh yeah, these days it's actually warmer,

which it wasn't that way in the old days. In my mind at least, you know, 12 o'clock, one o'clock, high noon, two o'clock, 2.30, 1.45, 1.15, 1.05, 1.13, 1.37, 1.56 p.m. Those were all the hottest times. Oh, my toe, sorry. Sorry, it's just my toe and people won't stop the hottest times. Oh, my toe. Sorry. Sorry, it's just my toe. When people want to stop talking about times, my toe just starts flaring up.

His toe has mania. His toe has manic everybody, cold, careless company. So he's like, Manic out. Yeah, here's why, because I'm a cheap guy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I bring the kids out when it's shady so I don't have to buy sunscreen. Yep. That's how to

watch the pennies. So they order food and she's like, so yeah, some stuff I saw going on the papers and I called you and Ray's like, oh yeah, that's right. Well, so the good news is that Karen's physical and you could never tell that she had an accident or anything like that You know, and you know what? She didn't hurt anybody, you know So a traffic median got torn up. No big whoop a tree fell down Who cares a lemonade sand flattened but no one got hurt She don't think she's she thinks she'll be cleared of After all, she is Thomas Jefferson's concubine and she already got another car.

So, and she's like, so did she get a Rolls Royce this time? And they start laughing. And so Ray is talking about how he's controlling less and less, you know? And he's like, I don't know if you have that feeling, but yeah, I'm sure. And she goes, yeah, is the Pope Catholic? I mean, you know who you're talking to, shit.

We're gonna do it. We're doing a great job co-parenting. I mean, I had the kids 25 days out of 30 days in June and Ray's like, so you had them 24 seven at that point? Even during the hottest hours of the day, like 12 o'clock or one o'clock or two o'clock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, well, Karen told me something that you had the kids when Mia went to Panama.

Yeah, so Ray is basically there on a fishing expedition for Karen. And I love that Ray, because normally the women on these shows order food, but never touch the food. That's the rule. Ray, Ray and G are gonna eat this food. They do not give a shit. And Ray's eating like a huge piece of shrimp. And he's like, so Panama, Panama, Panama, just go, go with it. And he's like, well, there were a couple of decisions that I made that were questionable, or that were made that were questionable. So I picked up my kids. So I picked up my kids. And so Ray was saying, you know, me was saying like me was so concerned about it,

but I'm thinking, well, if he's the dad, what's the problem with him picking up his kids? And Ray, I'm sorry, but can I pull you aside and let me tell you about a little friend I have? His name is Mania. And then Ray goes, I mean, I, I don't see why there'd be an issue unless you were to do something crazy, like take the kids to Charlotte,

which I did not know anything about. You definitely didn't take them to Charlotte or anything like that. Right. And he's like, well, you know, early in the period when we separated, she was with another guy and had the kids there and raise like, is that ink? Hold on. Let me just pull up my pet. I'm just really trying to write this all down for Karen. One second, ink, right?

INC or INK. Yeah, and he's like, yeah, so basically, you know, I had to go to Atlanta to get my kids back because Mia was just taking the kids over, like, here's your new daddy. And Ray says, well, I thought you were amicable. And he's like, well, it depends on who you ask because the factor of the matter is,

I don't know him well enough to like or not like him. What I do know is that he's like, well, it depends on who you ask. Because the factor of the matter is I don't know him well enough to like or not like him. What I do know is that he's had several affairs with his wife and I put my foot down the first time, the second time, the third time. And at this point I'm basically my own tap company and I will tap dancing because the music lives within me. It's like, and like a mature adult, if you will, sometimes we just raise ourselves above it all. Am I right?

That was Ray giving me a little scold there. And G is like, no, that's hard to get by. I mean, I don't think I can adequately do what you suggest. I can't rise above it all, okay? I married a trash box and now my life is filled with trash box. So I'm gonna move beyond and move above because I got myself to deal with.

So they break for prayer, which is nice. And then they go back to talking about whom he is fucking. And he's like, you know, this really frosts my ass. He brought it up initially thinking that my son was his son and Ray's like, oh yeah, I love, I like that story. So which one is that true or is it not true? Or did they already take the skin off of this shrimp? Cause I've got something crunchy in my teeth.

I think I just swallowed a tooth. And he's like, yeah, actually I did get a paternity test and my son is a shrimp. Damn this shrimp. No, my son is my shrimp. Damn this shrimp. No, my son is my son. Oh, good for you. Can I get a tiny fork down my throat? So it's true.

G is Jeremiah's father. It's official. So Ray is like, oh, that's beautiful. I was hoping to bring something back a little more salacious for Karen, but that works. That's okay. That's fine. And G's like, oh, that's beautiful. I was hoping to bring something back a little more salacious for Karen, but that works. That's okay, that's fine. And she's like, yeah, so I waited a couple of weeks and I showed it to her.

And Ray is like, so Mia hasn't told anybody this? And he's like, I don't know. It's a dead issue now at this point. Yeah, so it's confusing. And Ray also didn't get the good deets. Like we need to know the timeline. When did you get this paternity test? How long has Mia known?

Has it been the whole season? That she's still trying to make this, you know, at least half the season that she's been trying to make this a thing. Cause Mia's shady, you know. So, Ray goes, well, that's good. Yeah, you know, it was interesting because when Karen was pregnant with Raven, she said, now, you know, sometimes I have like

a little blue eyes and gray eyes in my family. And I'm like, no, you don't. I was like, damn, Ray just dropped way more than I thought he was gonna drop. This is turning into a really good scene. Fucking Karen was telling him, now listen, if our baby comes out

with blue eyes and blue hair, it's because of my great-great-grandfather Yeah, I wasn't sure what Ray was getting at here because he's basically throwing Karen under the bus right saying that yeah Cuz he was like saying like there with old blue eyes the whole time But I think what he also said is cuz he cuz he says you know I said no you don't and I'm not gonna be looking for any blue eyes the whole time. But I think what he also said is, because he says, you know, I said, no, you don't, and I'm not going to be looking for any blue eyes or gray eyes. So maybe the implication is, if you have an affair,

if you had an affair and there's a child, like this child's mine, like I'm raising it. I don't care if it has blue eyes, I'm not going to be looking to see if it has blue eyes. Like this child will be my child. I think that's sort of what he's implying. I couldn't quite tell. Or it's just Ray just got a implying. I couldn't quite tell. Or is it Ray just kind of nattering?

I don't think so. I think Karen was like, this could possibly be Frank Sinatra's child. And he was just like, no. So then, and Ray still doesn't seem to quite get it. I'm not really sure what's going on in the scene, but I'm really liking it. So, she's like, okay, yeah.

So let me tell you, you know, there's some really good things coming out of this. I took a good hard look at myself, listen what I've done. I've printed my own pamphlets and I've arranged them on a countertop. So I don't need her, I don't need her anymore. I'm a new man. And he's like, with my bipolar medicine,

we'll only take you part of the way there and you have to do the rest by yourself. And when I suggested to Mia most recently is, let's have some post-marital counseling until you're serious of the way there, and you have to do the rest by yourself. And what I suggested to me most recently is let's have some post-marital counseling until you're serious about getting married, or I'm serious about getting married. Like, why even get a divorce? So then it turns out that,

well actually the first thing that happens is the server comes over and they're like, do you have bread pudding? Because I'm not gonna eat this cornbread if there's a bread pudding option. Okay, just wanted to see. Like, there's. But so it seems like they're not even getting divorced

because it seems like they're still in a kind of like, let's see what happens phase, according to G. Right, so then we go to Stacey going to talk to a lawyer. Well, she's interviewing a lawyer. And so she's like, well, first of all, let me say that I've been married for 16 years. Can you believe it? You know, and the lawyers like, so you're currently separated. And she says, over a

year now, I've already sought out a mediator, but I want to make sure that I'm making the right decisions. For instance, the decision to bring these beautiful earrings now available for the low, low price of $59.99. They look like they're $3,000, but they are less than 60. That is a good decision. Make your phone calls now because they will not last in stock. You know, sometimes you have to look deeply at marriage

and say, this isn't only a tennis shoe, it's also a water bottle. Eight payments of 9.99, you could have it too. Do you know how many of those I sold? She's like, stay on focus, stay on focus. You're not on KBC right now, right? Let's talk about your divorce. So she's like, yeah, you know,

I'm just in the dark about some things. And so we see a flashback of her telling the ladies like, well, I guess there were some surprising things. Like suddenly there were bank accounts I didn't know about and businesses in my name. And they're like, whoa, or whatever she said, you know, those are not exactly. Yes. So the lawyers like, okay, so going forward, what are the top three things that are most important to you?

And she goes, well, number one would have to be Arabella, and I will have her during the school year, and then he will take her during the summer months. And then the second thing is that I waive the right to child support, because as we all know, men keep their word, and they're always going to support their children no matter what. That's so crazy that she's doing. I don't understand what she's doing here. I grown audibly. So she's like, so did you sign a prenup? No, they did not. And how do your incomes compare?

Are they similar? She's like, no, no, he makes a substantially larger amount of money than I do. But now, if we weren't counting money and we were counting ability to cut a diet Coke can with one knife that can literally cut through steel. I mean, I'm pretty rich in that department. You know where I have a lot of wealth in my ability to throw to weather. Okay, Chuck, tell us about what's coming down the pike this weekend. There's no weather man here. And yet I did that anyway, just shows how good I am at that. And so she's like, so what about alimony?

She says, I will go forward with alimony. So she's like, okay, so are you before we get all the way to finances, let's just make sure on custody that we've got everything covered. And she's like, well, he takes care of everything that Orabala needs. There's nothing that I ever have to pay for, so why would I need child support? Surely it's gonna be exactly the same when I'm living with another man in his home,

in the home that we bought together as a family. When he sees my special friend TJ in his mesh shirt, I'm sure my ex will say, give more money to Arabella, nothing could possibly go wrong. I'm sorry my ex will say, give more money to Arabella. Nothing could possibly go wrong. I'm sorry, lawyer lady, but you're sadly mistaken about the status of my ex-husband. And the lawyer is like, yeah, so when you're divorcing,

it seems like people are one thing, but then they get mad and then they change. And she's like, oh, what? That's crazy. I'm gonna have to think about that. I'm 100% sure that you're wrong though. I guarantee you're wrong. Did you know that if you have this toothbrush, you can use Coca-Cola to clean a toilet? Only $6 a month.

And the lawyer is like, so what's your reason for wanting to wave child support, but not the alimony? She's like, well, in terms of Arabella, we've just made the decision that he would take care of that. And I'm confident that he will do that. Almost as confident as I am that this new wet dry vac will take care of any stain in your carpet. Available now for $175.99. And so the lawyer is trying to explain to her gently like, okay, so you're you're making sure that it's in writing because you don't trust that he will take care of you.

But you do trust that he'll take care of Arabella. And she goes, maybe that is what I'm doing. She's like, okay, so don't you want to also maybe ensure that your daughter is also going to have that level of support moving forward, you know, in writing. And she's like, hmm, I'm looking at her and I can almost see the terror in her eyes, but she is 100% wrong about my husband. He's a good, good person. Yeah, no, I mean, listen, people who excel in corporate America are famously pretty

chill, nice, not very cutthroat people. Yeah. I wouldn't worry about it whatsoever. And they're also good with their morals. I'm sure he's not going to do anything like, you know, show your daughter the high life when she's living with him. And then, you know, now you have to go back to mom's house or living in a bed made out of old scrunchies. And

I'm sure he wouldn't do anything like that. The lawyer's like, have you ever heard of a book called Cinderella, where there's like an evil stepmom, you know, have you thought about that? She's like, hmm, yes, yes, I have thought about that. And I would be so excited if Arabella wound up with glass slippers. That's all I want for her. It's like, yeah, no. This guy got really bad very quickly. Stacey, listen to the lawyer. Pay attention.

Yeah, and also I wish the lawyer was like, listen, I work on commission. So if you don't want anything, what's your husband's number? I'll go fucking work for him because he's going to take you to the fucking cleaners lady. Yeah. So now we go to the container store, which is such a delightful twist. I was not expecting that. And you know what's so funny about the container store? I find is that I feel like

everyone universally loves the container store. You talk to people to like, Oh my God, I got to go to the container store. People love the container store. And yet every time I go into the container store, it looks exactly like it does in this scene, which is just like empty and strangely quiet. And you're like, there's nothing about the container store. That should actually be fun. It should feel oppressive and sad in there, but I always have the best time. I just am always mortified at how much things cost to contain things. Like you want to charge me $50 for a plastic box. No,

I'm not giving that to you. I can get it to target. Even at Target it's 10 and I'm like, this is a plastic box, $2. I'll give you $2. The Container Store also has such a strange way of organizing their goods for a store that's all about organization. If you're like, hey, I'm looking for like a small box that I could put some pencils in.

They're like, oh, yes. So we have some on aisle three in the office supplies. Oh, and then also aisle 43 near the pet supplies. And I think we may have one over by vehicle storage. Why are the pencil boxes scattered across the store? Different themes, because they have different themes of plastic boxes. Yeah.

So, Flash, Giselle's like, I'm an accomplished woman and every accomplished woman needs a trip to the container store, ding. So she walks through there with her kids and she's talking about her dad's will, which is completely fucked up, because as she told us in another episode, what it seems like she's saying is that his new wife

or his new were wife went in and changed his will when he had brain damage and is trying to pass that off as a new will. Is that kind of what she's saying? I shouldn't say why, maybe like his new family or whatever. There's someone in there who like took advantage of his ailing state and put in basically like a bunk will. So it's all being contested. So she's like, you know, and I wanted to make sure

that I'm passing that on to my children. Generational wealth is important. So we're storing it in plastic boxes. That are too expensive. So now we're gonna lose our generational wealth because we spent all that time trying to contain it. So yeah, so she's just trying to deal with this. So one of the twins has already gone off to school,

but it doesn't mean, now normally you would buy the stuff for both twins at the same time, but no, we are staggering the buying the dorm goods. So now one twin is off, we still have one twin left over and they're looking around and they're just joking. Gisele is talking about coming to visit for a party and Adore's like, no, God, don't come. You'll just be like the crazy old woman at the party.

She's like, excuse me. So then we go to Stacey and TJ on a date and of course they have to go to a place with a childish name because she's taking her child TJ to lunch. So they go somewhere called Treehouse. Treehouse. Is everything infantile about this man? For Christ's sake.

Is there no BOA in this town? I mean, what would be like the adult names of Treehouse? It would be like the container store. Now that's an adult thing. I'm trying to have a conversation with you. Could you please come out of that box? I don't know if that phrase is welcome around TJ. So TJ is like, yeah, wow, we never get a chance to hang out.

And so I wanted to do something that I thought I would enjoy, especially because we're outside and there's sunshine and something I think you would enjoy because we don't get to do anything. And I don't know, I just thought like, maybe since we don't ever get to do anything, I would just start things off on kind of a passive aggressive note.

Yeah, this whole scene TJ has decided that he's gonna be a huge victim now. Like what the hell? He like changes his whole plot in this scene, which is really weird. So she's like, well, isn't this a treat for us? Do you like treats? I love treats.

Okay, watch out, a treat's coming into your mouth right now. Meatball on the train, meatball on the, oh, it's coming up to a tunnel. And he's like, no, I wanna talk about serious things in the tree house. Can I get a menu I can color on? I think the reason why TJ is spinning this onto, um, Stacy, when, you know, about like where he's becoming the victim is cause he's getting flack from the other women and he'll know he'll get it from the audience about the fact that he

is actually withholding intimacy from Stacey. And so this is kind of a, I'm gonna flip that and put it on Stacey, which is you're withholding from me. You're not giving me Stacey time. That's true. And he's also doing a thing, which is a, you know, I mean, as a working actor, but he's not a rich working act. You know what I mean?

He's like a blue collar, I guess you would say, working actor. And the minute she says, guess what? My husband's gonna move out, which she does tell him. He's like, oh, why aren't we closer? Can I move in? I'm like, babe, no, you no, you janky. Go get your own apartment, sir, okay?

This is not a holiday inn. He just wants to shoot more scenes with her. He wants to make more of a splash on the show. You don't want to pay rent. What this is not a holiday inn. He just wants to shoot more scenes with her. He wants to make more of a splash on the show. You don't want to pay rent. What this is all about. And I love that she's actually seems to be relatively unfazed. She just sort of smiles, has this blank smile on her face and doesn't really, I'm not gonna say

she doesn't fall for the tricks, but she seems like, she's like, oh, oh, well, you feel that way, okay. Like, it's not, he doesn't get like, he doesn't need to get a rise out of her if that's what his intention is. She just keeps on sort of like, robo, like femme-botting through the scene, which is what I love about her.

Yeah, she really does. And so he was basically trying to get into her house and for now it's just visits, but I don't believe it. I know he's got a bag packed in the trunk of his Honda, you know? And so she's like, you know, while I love TJ, it just doesn't feel right to have TJ at my house yet. That's where Arabella sleeps.

It's my sanctuary. It's Arabella's sanctuary. My husband and I have been very cordial and respectful, and I don't want to mess that up, especially for Arabella. Also, I just don't think it's fair for TJ to be pressuring Stacey when she says she needs time. She doesn't want to rush this. Again, sir, you are the one who is withholding

even the lightest, not even booty. You're withholding any sort of touch or anything. So you can't ask her for patience, but then when she asks you for patience, you get all pouty at the tree house. Yeah, he's doing this whole weird thing now. I don't like it. And he's like, it just feels like you're hiding me.

Since when she's brought you on to TV 10 times and you've acted like a jackass every single one of the times. What are you mad that you didn't get to go on the girls trip? Because that's really all that's happened between the last episode you were on and this one. Like, do you remember your at home pizza making thing?

I would hide you too. I would hide you too. They showed a clip of him last week. At one point, I don't remember the context, but at one point they referenced TJ and they just the producers are just like mocking him because they do a flashback to the pizza party moment and they just show the most ridiculous clip of him like sort of prancing to the kitchen going, I'm the D, I'm the D, the D, the D. I was like, oh, these producers don't like him.

They don't. So she's like, what do you need for me to make you feel good about this? That word is xylophone. Just circle it. Oh my God, I got one. You're welcome. Are we good here? He's like, I just want you to play the glockenspiel. All right, well, you're in luck. I brought one. Arabella, I'll have the glockenspiel now. Bring it in. So that's when he says like,

well, let me get out my chalk. And he pretends he's like going to write on a board and everything. And he's basically like, yeah, he's like, I want you to tell your husband that we're dating. How about like, how about, since why does she have to do that when you literally just told the whole group of people that you're not dating and that you're seeing someone in California, by the way?

He'd said that? Didn't he say that when they said, or at the very least he did tell the group that they're not dating. Yeah, he said, yeah, it was that game. And they're saying, you can't say that you're dating him because you're technically, he hasn't said you're dating yet or something like that.

And he said, I have to agree with them, right? Is that what you mean? I don't know. You know what, at this point, who the hell cares? I don't care. My case is, I don't know, my case probably has a lot of- I don't have a case. I? At this point, who the hell cares? I don't care. My case is, I don't know. My case probably has a lot of I don't have a case. I'm just trying to remember what happened. But yeah, he's basically now this big mopey whiny guy. And also, why would you want her to tell her husband that that's going to infuriate him and try and be more ruthless in the divorce? And if you're a user and want to use her money, you're going to need that money. So you're just, you're just bad at this, TJ. Okay.

You're bad at being a fuck boy, cause you don't fuck. And you're bad at being a mister, cause you ruined the divorce. You're no fun. You're bad at this. Okay. You need someone better to bang ma'am. Go find him. I believe in you. So she tells us,

TJ has never been married and he doesn't have children. So it's hard for him to understand. But for the last 16 years, I had a husband who would never wear a mesh shirt on TV. And I also had a life and a social standing in my community. And I just don't feel like myself. I can't move any faster because then I reflect on the fact that I did used to have social standing in the community

and now I have TJ. Yeah. And he's like, well, I think I lose sight of all the things you have to deal with because I've been so patient and understanding all this time. Oh, really? You're dating a married woman, sir. First of all, you are not patient and understanding. Okay. You're just keeping all the wrong things in your pants. Okay. You know what we want also to come out of your pants a wallet every once in a while, TJ. TJ laughs

Yeah, so then he starts to do his like, hey, I was an extra on Grey's Anatomy so I can cry. So he goes like, I just, I don't want you to feel like you're in limbo and I have your back, but if you did me, I could do that too. You won't be by yourself. Oh God.

So she's like, oh babe, this is why I love you. But I think she's getting slowly turned off by this. I don't think she's gonna like this role reversal. Although I think they're still together. That said, they were on What Happens Live a few weeks ago together. Yeah, that's true they were. So she goes, TJ has been anxiously waiting

and I just wanna continue loving each other and being best friends. And let's true. They were. So she goes, TJ has been anxiously waiting and I just want to continue loving each other and being best friends. And let's just see what happens. I know he'll wait for me and for Arabella. So he's like, I'll just try it. He can't even walk. She's like, look at TJ, such a good person. So basically she's like, I know he's anxiously waiting.

I just want to continue loving each other and being best friends. Okay, this girl, this is the third time she's changed her storyline. At first she was not like this character at all. She was like more forceful and like, I am leaving. I'm not putting up with this. And then three episodes into it, she's like,

I'm gonna play this kind of like Rose Nylen, like sweet, innocent, naive person. And now she's changing her whole relationship status to pretend that she's been the one not wanting things to go further with TJ this whole time when the whole plot has been him. You can't just change the plot. Is there no storyboarding here?

I don't know. This is one of those rare relationships where I actually am just like, whatever it is, like if this week it's this dynamic, I'm just like, sure, it's fine. Because I'm like, it's weird. Like I don't care about them, but I don't get mad by them. I'm amused by them, but I'm not like, I don't get worked up by them. I just feel like he's a loser. I'm amused by them, but I'm not like, I don't get worked up by them. I just feel like he's a loser. I feel like she's great.

And I think that she's funny. And I just, I think that she will ultimately move onwards and upwards. I think that she just comes slumming it with TJ right now because she doesn't know what to do with her life. Yeah. I mean, I hope he's just a placeholder because. Lime. Okay, so now we go to Karen and Raze

and she's doing that thing where it's like, oh my God, honey, what should I wear? And she's showing them all these outfits and she's like, well, Ashley is doing a show. Typically it's my queens, my drag queens, but she's tapping into the masculine side of herself. Whatever that means, I guess she'll be grabbing a few asses of cameramen. Watch yourselves out there boys. Ray's like, oh, is she part of the show? And she's like, yes Ray, she's part of the drag. But she wants us to tap into our masculinity.

I don't have a masculine body. My favorite fragrance wasn't called La Man, it was called La Dame. So now I went into your closet and I took this out, a shiny golf shirt with the logo about some sort of title. He's like, oh yeah, my title is shirt. But she's actually taken like a button down shirt and everything and so, you know, they're just like talking

about this. The last time I had a masculine bone in my body, I thought I was pregnant with a blue-eyed baby. Hmm? Get it, Ray? I don't. Good. You never will, Ray.

You never will. So she's talking about this stuff. And then eventually, like after this chit chat, he's like, oh, by the way, I went to lunch with Gordon the other day. And she goes, oh, really? I had no idea. I wasn't totally sitting in the parking lot

waiting for you to come out and tell me everything. How was that? He's like, well, let me give you the tea. Um, so he's basically telling her everything that he said, which basically is that, uh, she's a liar. He's like, she's the father. Yeah. She's the father of the kid. Like, why shouldn't he be there with the kids? And Karen's like, but she also said that she has full custody. And he's like, yeah, I don't know how that would be then. And we see a flashback of that when Mia said that she had full custody, which remember when we were recapping it, we were like, if Mia has full custody, why is like, why is

he picking the kids up, you know? So Ray is like, well, the custody thing, unless the judge says you got custody or you've got par custody, I don't think that that's happened because he's saying he's had them the whole time. Yeah, not surprising, but it always is kind of surprising with me,

even though I know she's a compulsive liar, but these are really big lies. But then are we gonna believe G on everything too? I mean, it's not like these people are the source either. So yeah, these people really are, I mean, it's hilarious, but they, I mean, I don't know. I think they're both lying. But the question is trying to figure out when they're lying and when they're telling the truth. So Ray is like, um, yeah, like, like, uh, he, that basically G doesn't like that Ink is around the kids without Mia.

And Karen's like, well, Mia told us that they're like the black Brady bunch. Ray is like, well, I was surprised and I didn't ask, but he volunteered that he had a paternity test. She's like, oh, thank God, someone finally got the bottom of this. What's the, it's Ink's child, is it? It's Ink, it's a little Ink.

He's like, no, it's actually G's kid. She's like, well, well, that's good. That's good. You know, G wanted this baby to be his. So she's like, well, nobody prodded into your life, Mia. You opened it. And the fact that you knew about this some time ago, hold on, let me suck my teeth real good for this one. Withholding information after making people pray over you, pray over you, I've wasted a prayer. Yeah, and we see clips of where Mia's like, guys, Gordon's in mania.

And Karen's like, and you're not gonna give them the truth. It actually tells me everything I've been thinking. You're a liar. And so Ray is like, yeah, he's not happy. And he's like, you know, he was saying, why, what's the point of even getting divorced if we're not getting remarried? And Karen's like, oh, well, she's acting like the divorce is almost done.

And he's like, well, he's acting like shrimp is supposed to come without the skin on. It really hurt. What are you talking about? Sorry, go ahead. Me. Ray, what are you talking about? Shrimp with skin, it's ridiculous Ray, stay on task. So she's over it. So now we go to Ashley's drag king show at Shakers.

And the girls start arriving and it's one of those, oh my God, you look amazing. No, you look amazing. And then they settle in to have a drink and then it's a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, Kierna had a fight with Greg. You look great too. No, you look amazing. And then they settle in to have a drink and then it's a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, Kierna had a fight with Greg. You look great too.

And Kierna had a fight with Greg because, you know, he basically doesn't like that she's filming the show and Wendy's like, whoa, well, that's terrible. Gosh, I would feel terrible. I would just hate for this to be a situation where she has to make a choice between being famous and on television around fabulous women or being with Greg, who sits in a windowless office

with fluorescent lights in a polo shirt all day. God, what a terrible choice. Yeah, and Giselle's like, he needs to respect your hustle. Who do you think she's gonna choose? You or a TV show? Yeah. She's gonna choose the TV show, dummy.

Okay? She's already been on here in your stupid polo that you wear as your uniform at your job. I mean, that's basic. For someone like Kierna, like a really fashionable person, that's the most selfless thing a person could do for you. Exactly, exactly. When she was in that polo shirt, I was like, oh, she just made a sacrifice.

She appeared on TV wearing a polo shirt and she looked great by the way, cause she's hot. Wasn't she also wearing a hat or is that just in my head? I think maybe she had hat energy that day. I don't think she had a hat, but I mean. Was she handing out pens with logos on them?

Because I feel like she was. Was she dressed like a hand and walking down the street, like the hamburger helper person? Did she have a big magnetic logo on her car of his company? Was she wearing a sandwich board thing that said, get your social work two for one today? Yeah. So they're like, yes, not your social work two for one today. Yeah. So they're like, yeah, it's not gonna work out. And they're correct.

So then they start talking about their masculine sides because they're supposed to be tapping into the masculine sides and I don't really think they did. I think maybe Giselle wore like a hat, a cowboy hat or something like you wear. There may have been some cowboy hats, but they basically were like, no, we're not gonna do this. And then Ashley shows up

and she starts talking to some other queens that are there. And there's a drag queen there named Drew Sidora, which I like, I just died. I was like, I love, I love that there's, someone said, let me go for the lowest hanging fruit off of Atlanta. But it doesn't even mean the biggest scammer. It doesn't even make sense as a drag name.

They just felt the R E U X Sedora. Look I know it doesn't make sense, but it's I think there's no pun. I think it's just a funny reference. Like who would ever make tribute to Drew Sedora? Like someone really enjoyed watching the pass, but I just thought it was hilarious. It's just a super basic person who doesn't understand how cameras in your house work.

That's our whole schnick. Where is the ring cam? Where is the ring? So Ashley is like, I can't forget my lyrics. And they're like, you won't. In fact, if you want, you don't have to sing at all. In fact, maybe don't sing or lip sync or actually don't take the stage.

You just stay back here. We'll let you Sadoor do this instead. I was like, oh my God, I'm so nervous because I screamed like five times. I mean, I've had bubble guts all day. And the drag queen Crystal Edge is like, I pray you don't shit yourself on stage girl. It'll be good, it'll be good.

I'm gonna sit shut, you're not a drag queen unless you take a shot. So they do and then Ashley goes, well, no one's shit themselves before, right? She's like, you'd be surprised. A lot of shit themselves in here. I really think of myself as like a Casanova and like my utmost goal for this performance here

is to knock everybody's panties off in the audience. Sorry, mom. I don't understand what that has to do with being a Casanova. Oh, I guess the Casanova takes off women's panties maybe. I don't know. Casanova is sexy. Very sexy. So then she goes to get dressed and Karen is telling us,

well, Ashley's family is not surprised by her exploring her sexuality. I mean, as a top, as a pussy or something like that. What did she say? As a top, she's like, as a pussy, she's like, here's an ass, here's a pussy, ass, ass, pussy, pussy, penis, here. I mean, as she's doing her art and her mother is here

and her mother rocks and she's probably also saying, Ash, to get yourself together. So let's see. So now some more small talk. And Giselle is saying like, listen, you know, Karen's not eating guys. She's not speaking. She's not doing anything.

What is wrong with Karen? And so they talked to her. And Wendy's like, yeah, we're they talked to her. And Wendy's like, yeah, we're all concerned about you. And she's like, well, well, with what I'm going through, it makes total sense, don't you think? I mean, that deer almost murdered me on the road that night.

And the way that they constructed a fence just to impede my driving, extremely offensive. I'm having a talk with this shitty about it. She tells like, well, Kay, Karen now tells me you're on those impacts. She like, well, uh, Kay, Kierna tells me you're on Ozempic. She goes, well, everyone in my family is diabetic. So I am pre-diabetic. So I, yes, I am on a some, some of glutide.

And, uh, Giselle's like, so that's a form of Ozempic. It is not a form of Ozempic. It's just something that's mostly what ozempic is. So that should clear that up. Do you call toothpaste toothpaste just because it's made out of toothpaste? Yes, Karen. Well, you got me there.

Fine, I'm kind of on ozempic. Listen. Because I'm 1.3% Apache diabetic. There, it's in my family. look it up, 23andMe. Listen, am I taking on Ozempic? Yes. So what? Is it suddenly wrong to be a patriot?

Is it suddenly wrong not to support our swimmers and track and field people? No, Karen, not the Olympics. We're not asking if you've taken on the Olympics. We're asking if you're taking on Ozempics. Well, it's been very difficult for me. You don't understand how much money I've lost betting against dicks.

Embarrassing at this point. She's, well, I don't want diabetes and people lose their limbs. People lose everything. So Stacy is like, it's preventative care everyone. So Wendy's like, oh, I'm not a medical doctor but I want the other ways to prevent diabetes. So Giselle's like, it's preventative care, everyone. So Wendy's like, oh, I'm not a medical doctor, but aren't there other ways to prevent diabetes? So Gisele's like, it's fine, it's fine,

but don't have me thinking you're not eating and that you're stressed out. And Karen's like, no, no. I know, but then I'm 142 pounds. And Wendy's like, chicken wings, let's get some chicken wings over here. So now Jacqueline and Mia come, so they start gossiping. Karen pulls Giselle aside and she's like, listen here, now thank you for being transparent and honest and trying

to call me an anorexic on national television. That was fun. Now on a serious note, Ray had lunch with G. First of all, they were both given many, many cloth napkins. One of them was so tied so tightly around Ray's neck he couldn't breathe for a while. He almost choked on a chicken. You ever heard of this? Why are shrimp covered in clothes? Can you tell?

Ray couldn't explain what he was talking about. Get to the point, Karen. Me is a slut and a liar. The point is this, a man, a plan, Panama. Like, Karen, what are you doing? It's called a palindrome. I just learned about it. It was very, very important, pertained to our vacation.

And when we were having that man with a plan in Panama, G, he got the babies and Mia implied that he had gone off the deep end and that there was something manic happening, but he did not. That ain't all. The custody thing, it doesn't exist. That ain't all the custody thing. It doesn't exist.

He took his son to be a, to get a paternity test. And guess what? We called security on it and the baby is G's. Oh my God. And Karen's like, yes. And so she's like, but you're Ray asked if they're still doing the fourth. And she said, no, that's on pause. She's been lying this whole time, Karen.

And so Gisele's pissed, you know, she's like, that girl goes too far. And she's like, we're gonna tell them right now. We're telling everybody about Mia's lies. Yes, so Karen's like, I am blown away. So now- That heart is in my throat. Eat it.

Shut up, Wendy. So Stacy is like, oh my goodness, Mia, I have never seen so many ones. So are we just gonna go up and tip her? I've never, wow, is this like what they do at a strip club? I am scandalized right now. Mia, Karen just informed me about a whole lot of things as it relates to the conversation that she

and Ray had. And it's very clear that you've been lying to this whole group. And I got a fluted wooden box for $5 under retail value. Thank you very much. You're like, wow are you talking about? And Giselle's like, everything. So Karen's like, the divorce is on pause. She's like, who's saying that? Nobody, nobody's divorcing anybody according to G. And you know that they're telling the truth.

This is where I was like, oh, so G was telling the truth because you just see Jacqueline's face look at me, I'm like, uh-oh. What am I supposed to say? Just tell me, just say the word, I'll say something. Number one friend. So Mia goes, well, when is Gordon's word more important than mine?

I'm your friend. He's a literal maniac. Because Mia, you're a known liar. She's like, no, I'm not. Giselle's like, yes, you are. And when he's like, wait, guys, hold on. It's too loud. If we're going to fight and do something that could be in the season trailer, we should do it outside where the audio is better for Bravo.

Listen, if we were in a drag queen night, they would love that in here. But this is drag kings. They're just gonna dance off rhythm a lot. They don't like this kind of fighting. We have to take this outside. Yeah. So Mia's like, Gordon didn't download me on the conversation with Rey

because that's his conversation with Rey. So I'm like not gonna run back like I'm 12 years old and say, hey, guess what Rey said about you, Karen, but you know, there's different standards of Attic and Potomac. Yeah, you know the standards of Attic and Potomac. Be quiet. Yeah. I love when they, when they go out to fight, the drag kings are like, Oh my God, yes, they're

going out to fight with each other. Icon, father, father. So Mia's like, please blame yourself. She's like, no, I don't have to blame myself. This is your life. And she's like, well, hold on. Tell me what you know about my life because we haven't talked about your life, your drunk driving.

We haven't talked about your DUIs and talked about every fuck and you fucking every man that decides to open his dick up to you. Yes, I did say open his dick up. Yeah, and just I was like, oh God, blah, blah, blah. Okay, we get it. She ran into a tree. She's waiting for a trial.

We get it. Karen, we all know Karen's doing her thing on the side. It's not even a jab. Like we've been on her for five months. You don't get the slut saying, ma'am, we've already covered that ground. Yeah. So Karen's saying, ma'am, we've already covered that ground. Yeah. So, Karen's like, last month alone Mia watched her kids for five days and he watched them

the rest of the month. Is that true, Mia? Lies. Lies. Well, G told Ray that he had his son paternity tested and that you've known for quite some time that this is G's baby I should have known when I met that child and he did this to me. Jacklyn's like, excuse me, representative from Mia Thornton here, okay, she wasn't ready to discuss the paternity test with the group yet and if she was going to, she was going to discuss it with me first because I'm the number one person in her life. Get in line,

everyone. And Gisele's like, excuse me, this has been her plot the entire season. What do you mean she's not ready to discuss it? She literally made everything about this. Guys, you know what, Gordon did a home test. Okay. It's not even a real paternity test. So we know this. I call for a mistrial. Jacqueline Esquire says, mistrial guys. Now, Gordon found that that baby had no DNA in common with ink, but they did both recently eat a hot dog and had some leftover on their shirt. It is crazy what these things can find on you.

Mia, shut up. Shut Jacqueline up, please. So Mia's like, I'm not going to have this conversation. And so everybody's like trying to go at her, but Mia is just like walking away. She's like going back into the drag show and Kieran is like, this is too much. What will Greg say? And that's the end of that one. Yep. That was the end.

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