Watch What Crappens - #2701 Southern Charm S10E07: It Takes Tuba To Tango

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

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All right, let's get into Southern Charms, season 10, episode seven. My main thought on this episode was, wow, I don't think I've ever seen so much tuba footage in my life. This was a lot of tuba footage. There's a lot about a girl playing a tuba, a girl who loves her tuba.

And I don't- Her small tuba. They call that tuba a J-t loves her tuba. And I don't- Her small tuba. They call that tuba a J tuba. I like the girl. I mean, I really like Molly, but I don't know about this direction. I want to be in that production meeting where they're like, let's follow the girl with the tuba.

You know what's going to really inspire people? The tuba segment. Let's just do a really long episode focused around the tuba girl. The fuck? Well, it was also really fun to see this entire cast try to pretend like they were civilized by going to a concert hall and listening to classical music

or whatever that was they were playing. And they were all just sitting there pretending like they were engaged and they cared. And Shep's doing his little like, he was like conducting with his fingers. I was like, okay. Shep, the classiest, most educated one in his mind is sitting there like acting like a jackass doing double like oh so embarrassing He might as well have just been eating with his mouth open out the concert. He's so embarrassing. I can't with that guy

No, I know anyway It was it was a fun episode It was kind of like a return to JT with the group and it went as well as you would expect. So Previously on beta show um as JT and Craig move past the bitch Comment heard around the world me and Austin were fit to be tied to some corn cuz I'm born to corn Meanwhile Taylor was question is Salix past actions if Sally was ready to move towards a friendlier future And then we see Taylor. Taylor's face really doesn't move.

Whatever, you're young. You don't need that much Botox, babe. Like don't start doing, I mean, get a little, you know, they say you don't get wrinkles if you start getting Botox young, but you can move your face a little bit. I mean, what the hell? The only thing that moves is her lower lip.

She's just like, all right, she's got a stich ass too much. She's just like, all right, aren't these plastic guys too much? She's like the alpha stage AI. It was like AI from like seven years ago, where it's like, okay, well, she can answer the questions. We just haven't animated her yet. Yeah. So we see a little bit of that.

And then Sally decided to flip the script on Tyler. And we just basically see Sally like, yeah, well, sorry about your boyfriend, but people don't trust you in this group. And Taylor had a huge reaction facially. She was like, it was so animated. I mean, it was like the,

you can really see what she's thinking on her face because there's so many expressions at any given time. You know? It's like Taylor, come on, poker face already. Am I right? Yeah. And Taylor's doing this thing where she's like, oh, I'm the star of the show now.

And if you look on paper, Taylor has been on the show a long time, really, but she's not the star of the show. Like she's, she can't walk out every episode. She can't do a flurry walk out every episode. Like you're not Kyle Richards. I mean, it's even annoying with Kyle Richards, but you're no Kyle Richards.

You know what I mean? You haven't earned this. Yeah. Yeah. She's just like, you know, when you just see like, she's like plain Cheerios. It's like, what? There's so many other Cheerios.

Why is plain Cheerios? Why is that still like in a world where we have honey nuts? What does that mean? In a world where we have honey nut, we have plain, like it's like, there's so many like colorful and Cheerios. I thought you were saying she's playing Cheerios. I was like, what the, what's that? I want to, that sounds like a British Cheerios. You know what? She's just playing Cheerios. You know, a lot of-

She's playing cheerios, yeah. She's like playing cheerios, like allegedly good for the heart. Yeah, she's off-brand Rice Krispies with no sweetener. You're boozed. Anyway, so yeah, Taylor is like playing off-brand cheerios. So Craig, and then the Mastin saysuries. So Craig, then the Madison says, and Craig kicked his feud with us and into high gear.

And Craig is like, how much would I have to give you to sign papers that say Craig owns pillows and beer right now? Are we doing this? Wow. Wow, Craig. Wow. Wow. How much do you think that is worth, pillows and beer?

And why would you wanna still call it pillows and beer? Just start a podcast called Pillows. Pillows and Pillows, Pillow Talk. Why is it not called Pillow Talk? Does he have a podcast called Pillow Talk? He's gotta have one. I think Paige has one that's, I don't know, she probably wouldn't call it Pillow Talk,

but doesn't she do something maybe for Amazon Live that's like- In bed with Paige. And she just something maybe for Amazon Live that's like in bed with Paige? And she just lays in bed because that's her thing on Summer House. Everybody says she just lies in bed all day. Yes. So she has like an Amazon Live show where she's just in bed.

Well, you know what's so funny about that is that we got a press release about Amanda Bichula and Sierra doing some sort of like bed thing. And it's like, like they were doing some sort of tie in with beds and I just kind of felt like, that's cool that you guys are capitalizing off of this, but I kind of feel like the bed is sort of like

Paige's thing. And it's like, maybe Sierra, although Sierra has famously the messiest bed on Bravo, but I don't see Amanda, I just never think of Amanda as like, as like, as bed forward, even though she's often in bed, but it's like she goes there to sulk and retreat, whereas the others go there for like gossip and chit chat,

you know? Yeah. Yeah, Sierra kind of took on the bed thing after Hannah left, but it's not really her thing. Yeah, her thing is messy bed. If Sierra does something, she should do like room organizers, you know? Or like, trash cans for your bedroom.

We can throw trash away instead of putting them on top of your bed. Well, this is okay. I'm reading the press release. Congratulations PR people, you did your job. But like, this is such a strange headline. It says summer house duo, Sierra Miller and Amanda Bichula embrace bed rotting with kind snacks. Is that what that's called when you hang out

on your bed, bed rotting? I just want to get a lot that. I don't feel like that's a term I want to associate with my food, my kind bar. Yeah, me neither. What about like bed surfing? Even if you say it's bed rot, ugh. Bed rot.

The queens of bed rotting. I just think of like bed sores and. Yeah, it's fantastic. Is this think of like bed sores and. Yes. Is this a thing? It is a thing. This is a phrase. Okay, look how young and hip we are. Bed rotting is a phrase from social media.

We're in a person's days in bed for an entire day without engaging in daily activities and chores. So my friend, remember Diana from Sweden? She says that in Sweden, they call that a duvet day. And I think that's a much better phrase than bed rotting. Duvet day, where you hang out under your duvet all day long and have a wonderful day. I say I'm marinating, but that's kind of gross too.

Cause that brings up juices, that brings juices into it. I'm not necessarily marinating in juices or anything, but I call it marinating or just bed day, you know, like I need a bed day. Yeah, honestly, I wanna really, I really wanna recommend saying duvet day. It feels nice. It actually feels like you're not just hanging out in bed

and having like a marination. When you say you're having a duvet day, you actually feel like you're doing something a little elegant and slightly European. Well, yeah, and you can sound like Carl like, oh, I do duvet day because that's how they do it in Sweden. And I was there.

I will never say that I'm bed rotting because the last thing I'm doing is rotting. I'm literally- Yeah, because you're supposed to start rotting like after age 30 or something, right? Your body starts to decompose slowly. Yeah, I will tell you, I will tell you exactly when I rot the most is when I watch Amanda and Sierra

on Summer House. That is called brain rotting. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so we open over at Austin's house and he's watering a plant. And this is the like, ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba. He's watering a plant.

Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba. Madison's snipping a plant. Hey, watch a frog come out of here, little beta frog. And then Rod's spreading his face and checking his wrinkles and he's like wrinkle wrinkle little star. And I was proud of him for that because that was great that they came up with something for Rod for this one. Yeah, yeah, relatable. And then we land on Molly and she's playing her euphonium, AKA her mini tuba, and her dog,

her golden doodle is just not impressed. Golden doodle's like, unless you're walking me or feeding me, I don't really care what you're doing over there. Yeah, dogs are just stuck with you. They're your prisoner and they're just used to it. My dog does that whenever I do my stupid piano practice or whenever I do the show.

You guys see him in the back of me usually, just laying there like, please fucking just kill me. He's like, if I had opposable thumbs, I'd give myself the shot. Like I can't take this anymore, you know, but he has nowhere to run. So he just lays there and looks very sad. Doesn't wanna miss the meal.

So we've now go to Venita. Venita had a, Venita had full-fledged scenes this episode. I was so proud of her. Uh, she wasn't... She was not part of the watering houseplant montage that we got just now. She actually has multiple scenes where she got to engage with people and not drown.

So she goes to Sally's house, and it's still... They're doing that thing. I wonder if Bravo tells people after you have a party, you're not allowed to clean up because this is like a Bravo thing that the day after the party, all the shit is left out. And I swear to God, I'm not like, listen, I'm not like Emmy on Southern hospitality. I am not spick and span, but I am tidy enough that like, even if I have a party, I'm going to put away the food because we don't want the bugs to come in.

And there was shit all over the place. And I'm sorry, enough that like, even if I have a party, I'm gonna put away the food because we don't want the bugs to come in. And there was shit all over the place. I'm sorry, when you like, between Sally and her mother Charlotte, I just don't believe they're leaving that food out. I do. Really? Yeah, why do you think they did? You think they just did it because production told them we need a messy house.

I think so. Listen, production's not doing shit for the plot. They followed a tuba all episode, okay? I just don't see Charlotte. Production is engaging in bedlock. I don't see Charlotte letting that food in. Listen, listen, that entire party went by, that entire party went by,

and I guarantee Charlotte was sitting at the window saying, can't wait for these people to leave so I can soup into action and clean it up like a good mom. Like, I feel like this was Charlotte's moment was to clean up that half eaten muffin that they focused on. The worst was the big wedge of blue cheese. That was just nasty.

With the fly right on top, eating it all over it. It was just nasty, don't do that. Well, maybe they had to leave it out because they were shooting Fly Southern Charm. The Fly is like, hey, so I decided to have a pool party at Sally's, so I invited everyone. The Fly is like, I didn't fuck that girl over, she deserved it.

Oh God. There's a smaller fly that comes by, they're like, well, we decided to let JT fly back into the group. He lives on a fly plantation. He's just like, it's normal now. It's just like a normal house now. Everybody stop stressing.

Why are you so mad? But it's just like- He's all protesting that they're trying to take down a fly statue from the 1800s. The fly statue, of course, in this case, is just like a breadstick that's been left out. They have a totally different... The chef flies like,

Karsh, there's my old house. It's just a carrot stick and a cup. Yeah. So they're cleaning and Venita's like, oh, hey, I have a new outlook on life. You know, dude, almost drowning. And I was so sad because she referenced her drowning, like her almost drowning thing, like three times.

And I was like, that's so sad that to Venita, that's like her biggest plot. You know, she's like, I did it thing like three times. I was like, that's so sad that to Vanita, that's like her biggest plot, you know? She's like, I did it, I have a plot. I know I'm gonna make the preview cuts. People were like really mad at Vanita on Twitter. They were so mad at her. Why, what'd she do? They were mad that she jumped in and then almost drowned.

They were like, really? You're barely on this season and then you pull a stunt like this? Oh, for Christ's sake, we're all allowed to choke. Yeah, that's for sure. Here's the thing with Benita. I worry for her because she did get the most scenes, but she's literally selling her soul to the devil to do it.

Like you have to make out with JT to be on the show. That's just so sad. She doesn't deserve that. I know. And there's like a part of me that roots for JT, but he really does fuck it up. I'm actually very aligned with Craig on this one, which is like, there's like parts of JT,

I think that like he has stood up for things. Like I loved when he stood up to Austin last season, but it is so performative and there is an insincerity about it and there's definitely you you can feel That he's like he is putting on for the cameras and I have to say on this show. This is probably the Bravo show That has the least amount of that like where people are like it's just I feel like it's like not the Charleston way to To be crazy for the cameras the way like a Brittany Bateman would on Salt Lake City So the fact that JT does it really sticks out, you know,

and that's so annoying to me. Yeah, he's gross. And then Vanila did some press this week where she was talking about JT and she said that he just ghosted her. And then next she knew he had a girlfriend, like he hard launched a girlfriend on Instagram. That's so gross.

Like that guy's such a pig. Yeah, he's just doing it for the cameras. Listen, Ronnie, excuse you. He was standing up for what was good and real. Okay. So if that means ghost infinita, then it means ghost infinita. I stand for the truth. What did he say today? He was something like, as the principles of the truth of the matter. I was like, okay, Thomas Ravanel, you know, you know, you're going to need another bridge. Okay're gonna need another bridge, okay? You don't get, you haven't earned that.

I'm gonna say this to you and Taylor, you have not earned that. Yeah. So, Vanita's asking about last night and she doesn't like that Taylor left the party abruptly and Sally's like, yeah, I think that she was upset that I said people here said that they don't trust her and Vanita's like, but she knows that we've all said that to her.

And she also tells us that like after the reunion, everyone basically told her like, we'll be cordial with you, but because of like what Taylor and Austin did behind Olivia's back, it's just not going to be like, hey, let's hang out, you know, they have to kind of, it has to be earned back. Yeah.

And because they're all so respectful to each other. That's another thing that cracks me up. I mean, they're acting this whole episode so high and mighty like they're all so respectful of each other and they can't believe somebody starting shit at a party. That's what you do. That's what all you douchebags do. So now we go to Taylor's and Taylor is chewing something,

which is impressive, because she's moving her mouth. I was like, wow, is this like special effects? And she's like, hmm. So then Gaston comes. Can we stop ugly shaming Gaston, especially Shep. Shep looks like a baseball glove and he's coming. He looks like a baseball glove with wooden teeth, with like little bits of cracker flying out of his mouth.

Why is he making fun of somebody's looks? I do Gaston. Yeah, although between Shep and Gaston, it's like you have a full Wiffle Ball set there. I mean, honestly. So Gaston, yeah, I mean. You're like, nope, I will keep look shaming Gaston. He's a Wiffle Ball.

I'm just saying like, everyone. Listen, there are many pieces of a Wiffle Ball set that he could be, he could be the big red bat, you know? But the point is this, like is Gaston, is he the most handsome Gaston we've seen in pop culture? Maybe not, but it's hard to live up to Beauty and the Beast Gaston because even though Beauty and the Beast Gaston

was a dick, he was pretty hot. And I feel like Gaston has a lot to live up to. When you have a name like Gaston because even though Beauty and the Beast Gaston was a dick, he was pretty hot. And I feel like Gaston has a lot to live up to. When you have a name like Gaston, I think there's like an implication of a certain base level of hotness and like that's a lot to live up to. Yeah. So she takes her dogs out and she's like, I remember the moment that I fell in love with Gaston. We were at dinner and then talking to him was like talking to my best friend.

And then I was like, I want to spend so much time with him. It's going to be like a good chunk of my life. I don't want to say marriage because I don't want to jinx it quite yet. Oh my God. Look, does DoorDash deliver pickers? Because you need one. Get on there. Find a picker.

OK. I think Gaston's kind of cute, but he's an asshole. Okay, we all know he's an asshole. Mr. I don't want a TV, he's about to show up in five minutes to be on TV, okay? Yeah, I mean, I think that Gaston has like a cute quality. I actually really enjoy his ears. And you know, he sort of has that kind of like,

every now and then someone comes onto Bravo who has kind of like that chicken run kind of vibe. And I always find that to be very endearing but he this guy seems like he's like the worst and it's time for Taylor to Go to therapy or something and like just like like you said work on that picker a little bit work on the picker Find someone maybe get out of Charleston. Maybe find a man in a different city away from this TV show So she's like, yeah. Oh, and she tells him, this is my favorite line I think of the episode.

I'm sad you're not coming to Molly's Teva concert. I'm sad you're not coming to Molly's Teva concert. I'm sad you're not coming to Molly's Teva concert. I'm sad you're not coming to Molly's Teva concert. Establishing a tone for the episode. I'm sad you're not coming to Molly's Teva concert. I don't know why that made me laugh so much. No, it made me laugh too.

She's like, but I think Sally will be there. And he's like, yeah. And she's like, as far as the girls go, I'm in better graces with everybody. But then I heard that Sally, Sally told me that people don't trust me. Yeah. And she's like, it's like, I wrong one person who knows all these people. And I feel like they're mad at me because this whole situation kind of a shitty

feeling. I'm like, yeah, that's called reputation. That's what happens. If you wrong someone and they have a right to tell their friends, like, this person wronged me. And then the friends have a right to be like, yeah, I don't like that person anymore. That's just the way it goes. That's why you don't like that person anymore. That's just the way it goes. That's why you don't wrong people. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappence commercial.

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check out New Year New Mindset on the Wondry app. Let's make this year our best one yet, baby. So Taylor's like, I'm trying to build back trust I lost with the girls because of everything that happened last year. And it seems like Sally is trying to reinforce their opinions of me. I actually am not getting the sense that Sally is really going hard for Taylor.

I'm getting the sense that she's going hard for Gaston and that like the running thread here is that Gaston is a piece of shit and he cheats with one person and gets with the next person and he's over always overlapping. And there's just like an expiration date on this because he's going to cheat soon enough. Yes, I also get the feeling that Sally's like maybe kind of trying to be friends with Taylor in a weird way, because they're both new girls. And they both have somebody that can unite them and plot and get them scenes on the show, which is Gaston. So I think she's trying to be like, hey, come on over here. Let's talk. I'll tell you some gossip every no one trusts you or whatever.

I think, you know, because when you tell people someone's talking shit about you, that's usually to try and get them on your side in some way. So I think Sally in her weird way is trying to make an effort. Cause look, it's Charleston, they've all fucked the same dudes and the dudes have all fucked the same ladies. You know, it's just how it is.

We've learned that on this show. So it's like being in a gay bar. You can't get mad that somebody slept with another gay guy. It's what we do, you know? It's like, are you gonna get mad at a knitter for wearing homemade mittens? No, it's what we do. Torpeen this guy. I might get mad at them.

I might get mad at them. I'm like, why are you wearing mittens this July? I think that's context-based, to be honest. But what I will say is, yes, they do have triple overlap, these two women. So they should be friends and they should be drinking martinis together. And maybe they will soon enough once Taylor and Gaston go their separate ways. Yeah. Because like, look, if you meet somebody and you're like, oh my God, that soap dish is your favorite movie. Me too. Well, my other one is big business. And they're like, oh my God, me too. And then you're like, you know what really

makes me cry every time the color purple and they're like, oh my God, me too. And then you're like, you know what really makes me cry every time, the color purple. And they're like, oh my God, me too. God, I love Fantasia's voice, but she can't act. I hate you now. I hate you now. No, that's not how it is. You have things in common.

You're like, let's go to coffee. You don't hate each other. These three have three penises in common. They should like each other, you know? They already know you like the same things. Yeah, exactly. I think you're two thirds of the way there in the movie example.

So... Not the musical. I meant the regular one. The regular, the one that came out last year, right? No, no, the Steven Spielberg one. Oh, regular one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So Gaston...

Regular one. The regular one. Original flavor, yeah. So Gaston regular original original flavor. Yeah. So Gaston, so he's, so she's does this thing and Gaston says, well, at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. And that's all you can say for the life of the poor. You're mixing musicals Gaston. You're in the wrong one. I mean, you could sing that song if you want, be our guests, but you're in the wrong musical at the moment.

So he's like, well, you apologize and the ball's in their court and you don't need to go there and roll over and be like, pet my belly. So then we go back to Sally's house. Vinita's like, yeah, we don't have to be buddy buddy with everyone, but I'm nervous she's gonna try to like, not come around. We want her to come around enough

that she feels like she's not part of the group, but not enough so that way she moves on from the group. We want her to still be on the outs. You can only be on the outskirts of the group if you stay within the group. And we need her to stay within the group so that way we can show that she's not in with us. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, Vinita's like, listen, I haven't been in this group long, but the length of time I've been here has taught me one thing. They need somebody to bully. So I need Sally to be here enough to bully her, Taylor enough to bully, and then she can go away again, you know? So Sally's like, do you think that Gaston doesn't want her around? Vinita's like, I think there's something to it.

I think that he's very protective over her. And Sally's like, well, I think there's something to it. I think that he's very protective over her. And Sally's like, well, I hope she's not getting in trouble for me having his name in my mouth. I mean, she can't control what I said. And she was like, well, she seems happy. Does she? She seems like a walking fucking piece of,

she looks like a walking dish sponge. There's nothing going on. She doesn't even move her face. How can you tell she's happy? I've literally never seen Taylor happy in like however many years she's been on the show. So I don't know. If I saw that girl sitting at a bus stop, I'd put a straw in her mouth and help her drink. Like when I see her, I just feel like I automatically hear Sarah McLachlan playing in the background. Any song, any song by Sarah McLachlan. It's just like, just hanging over her like a cloud.

So now we go to JT, Craig and Shep going to fish together doing some manly things. Fishing. Murdering innocent animals. Actually, I eat fish. I might not after this though. Fishing is gross. So Craig's like, well, apparently Austin is here in spirit. Letting people live rent free in your head is a poison. And the only person Austin is hurting by staying mad at JT is himself.

Says Craig, who then is mad at JT for the rest of the episode. The reason why he says that is because the boat captain is named Austin. It's insane. The SS, it's insane right now, Madison. So- If you point your fingers at somebody, you've got three fingers pointing at you, and then you're also giving a thumbs up to somebody, but I don't know who that person would be. You know what I'm saying? So they get on the boat, and JT hasn't really gone fishing.

And Shep is like, how have you never been saltwater fishing? I mean, didn't you go fishing on the yacht you grew up on? Like every normal child in America? He's like, no, I golf. It's a lot drier there. And he's like, but it's important to cultivate all sorts of new hobbies for instance

my favorite hobby is watching the Vietnam War by Ken Burns sorry I just can't contain myself I love that Shep just assumes that everybody has all day every day to have hobbies you know some people have jobs and rent to pay Shep okay we can't all go fishing and golfing, knitting fucking meter. Not everyone has access. Knitting fucking meter. Not everyone has access to also fishing holes by the way. I mean it's not like it that does like require a certain amount of you know a lot of people do but a lot of people don't can't just like grab a first of all you have to have a fishing bowl which is not necessarily cheap and you have to be able to like What you have to go to the lake or better check your fishing privilege?

privilege, okay, madam Okay He's like well, I'm hoping to cultivate our relationship and therefore fishing could be fun I'm gonna work at it boys. I'm gonna work at it I know men are like it's a gender thing. You gotta hunt, you gotta fish, but I have really no interest in fishing. I have to say, I don't like fishing either. And it's not even a, it's not an ethical thing.

Sorry, sorry, Adam Lactafis. I literally just ate some smoked salmon right now. It's just like, I don't find it to be that interesting or like that fun. And I find that when you finally catch a fish. Was that salmon a fault for dying because it was smoking? And when you finally catch a fish, it's so chaotic and that I actually really find that

to be an unpleasant part of it. The flopping around, I'm like, I can't, it's over fish. Just, that's not resisting. But- We're talking about checking privilege. I think one of the moments I had to check my privilege was when I was in therapy one time and had to talk about traumas in my life.

And one of my biggest like early traumas, I guess I didn't realize was killing a fish because I remember having to kill that, like going to a dad and son thing with my dad, it was called Indian Guides. It's pretty problematic, but that's what it was. And so we learned all sorts of like outdoorsy things, like to be one with the natives.

And we went fishing and we had to catch that fish and then you have to grab it and you have to slam it into a rock to knock it out. And then you have to gut it. I've never been so traumatized. And my dad's like, all you do is bang it and then grab a knife and slice it up. And I did not want to look at my dad for months after that.

I think I still have a problem with my dad for that. I was like, that is disgusting. And how could you pass that on to me? And then I realized later, that's a privilege. You know, that's one of your biggest traumas. Going fishing. It almost killed me, you guys. It almost killed me.

God, I wish you were on one of these real housewives shows. That way you could have had a teary confessional, be like, I remember when Jamie, watching that fish, just slamming its head against the rock. My real housewife sort of knew your storyline. I'm so sorry, I called you all the C word, but it's because I went fishing when I was young. Victim cloak, fishing victim cloak.

Well, I went fishing once when I was an intern in New York City and I first moved here and well actually I didn't go fishing but I went to the fish market and it was disgusting. So I get it. Who's that? Jessel trying to relate herself. It was a call back to last season. That's funny. Shep's like, so I mean, where is JT even from? I mean, come on, even in Nebraska, you have a little fishing hole.

Come on. As a young boy, someone surely took you fishing and taught you how to eat peanuts like this. Can we please make a rule that Shep doesn't get to eat on camera anymore? I can't. I'm as traumatized as when I went fishing. And it's Shep eating while they're fishing. I can't. Yeah.

So, JT tells us, I mean, if there's water, I get nervous. I mean, some people are scared of hots, not me for obvious reasons, because I'm not there yet. But I'm afraid of deep murky water. Not my vibe. And then he's, but now he's, so now he's being silly because now he has to hold the bait, which is like fish. And then he's like, Oh, he's being silly and throwing it in the water. And they're like, JT, just like grab the fish. I've never given someone more chances in my entire fucking life. I'm like, excuse me, have you seen your two friendship

and often this entire show is about you guys squabbling and then becoming friends again, the sort of the next season. But never the less. I've never seen anybody get more chances than you, sir. How about that? Speaking of. How about that?

I know. Then we see JT, like JT's big evil thing. I'm gonna perform the first ever fuckboy exorcism. Yeah. You know, it's just hard to see, like it's hard to say no to the nice guy, but you just hope the crazy guy stays home. I'm like, well, could we show footage

of Craig being sweet and charming and then also Craig on Winterhouse, refusing to clean up any of his messes because he feels like there are other people that should do that for him. Because, you know, the truth is, a lot of us have that nice side and monster side. Yeah. So they catch a big old fish and they release it back

because they're on TV and they don't wanna listen to it from fucking Instagram comments. That's exactly right. There's no way they're giving that fish back if their cameras aren't there. You know that piss Shep off so much. Yeah. Um, so now we go to Whitney's bachelor pad in the back of his mom's house.

Is that in the back of his mom's house? Right? Yeah. It's like a garage that he turned into like his bar and he has one of those like embedded coffee machines and like this is the thing on Bravo these days people do not know how to use their coffee machines I feel like we saw it twice last week and now here's Whitney he's like mother the espresso is not coming out mother no no no espresso mother and so awesome comes over PhD enough astrophysics to run the coffee machine. Do you want some Pappy Van Winkle?

So good. So good. I love some Pappy Van Winkle. You know who doesn't have a PhD in astrophysics? Pappy Van Winkle. And then he drinks his thousand dollar bottle of Pappy, Pappy Van Winkle bourbon. So they go upstairs and he sits next to his 20 guitars. Um, and, um, then Madison comes and she's like, I love this place, it reminds me of my soul. Dark, murky, moody, loves corn.

Alpha. So Austin's like, Madison, how many girls has Whitney banged on this couch? And Madison's like, I don't know. I told Whitney and me and Brett, totally banging in the bathroom and he was like,. And Madison's like, I don't know. I told Whitney, me and Brett, totally banged in the bathroom and he was like, what? He's like, not near the Papi Van Winkle.

We has a $15,000 Japanese toilet. It's seen right now. So it's time to gossip. So they're like, did you see that photo on Shep's Instagram? And there's a pic of the three guys holding up that fish. And Austin's like, yeah, I kind of took it as like a slap. I'm like, how do you think the fish felt? Okay. He's like, I texted back Shep.

And I was like, man, you guys are all assholes. I'm sorry. If you're fishing and you catch a fish, the first thing you do is take a photo. I don't think it was a slap in the face. It was like a standard fishing photo procedure. We might have to post it on Instagram. Where else are you gonna post your fish photo?

Nowhere, you keep it. Fish-togram? You keep it, you put it on your Apple TV thing so you can slightly be like, oh yeah, that's the time I caught a huge fish. Sorry, I don't know why that's on there. You know where I would post it? Snapfish.

I would post it in my trauma book. I would post it on threads. I don't know. I remember Flickr, those were the days. Let's post it on GeoCities. So anyway, Austin is very offended because he didn't get to hold the fish, a big part of it. And he's like, I took it, it's kind of like a slap.

I take it back, yeah. And Madison's like, I'm with you back, Craig. I thought he was a genuine friend and I thought he would choose me over JT, but it seems to me that that's not the case. And she says, the reason I'm mad at Craig, Craig's calling me on the side saying, we're done with this guy.

And I'm like, yeah, say less, say less. No, literally stop talking, you really know him. And then now he's going fishing. Now I'm mad, mad as sin. Here's the thing guys, if you're gonna kick somebody off the cast, which is what you're not even being subtle about, you're all trying to ice him out from the cast.

You have to do something. You can't just kick somebody off the cast and then just sit around your house all day, pouring ice tea. Like you have to actually do something. You can't just kick somebody off the cast and then just sit around your house all day, you know, pouring ice tea. Like you have to actually do something. Keep the messy people. You have to do less, you know? Yeah, yeah.

So Austin's like, yeah. Also, Madison's best when she has somebody to yell at. You need somebody to yell at, he's there, use him. Yeah. So Austin is like, yeah, then Craig told me he basically wants to dissolve our podcast basically. For good? Yeah, I was like, what's going on here? It's insane. And she's like, and when you say cool, and you didn't have an answer, which is maybe why your podcast is failing. And he's like, why didn't I haven't done that?

Well suddenly, Craig has become a bit sanctoneous and judgmental, you know, thinking that he has to move on from Austin because Austin is, you know, not behaving to his standards. So, and Austin's like, no, no, no, it's because I went to Craig and I gave him some criticism and he's not able to handle that criticism whatsoever. You know, Austin has a great track record of taking criticism, so I really feel his pain here. Um, Austin has been like, and that was like, I'm taking my basketball and I'm going fucking

home, which is also true. So Austin's like, he's like, Craig and I have been together for like so long that I just thought that the friendship meant like more to him. And it's like becoming increasingly clear to me. He doesn't give a shit about friendship. I think he literally sees dollar signs and everything he does, God forbid. God forbid someone on this cast earns a few dollars doing something.

So he's like, I'm sad, I'm so sad. So then we go to nighttime and we're at Craig's and they're going over to Craig's after fishing. Well, Shep and Craig do. So they cook and Shep's like, I get to cut the pineapple? Oh my God, howep and Craig do. So they cook and Shep's like, I get to cut the pineapple. Oh my God. How am I going to do that? Come on Shep. Surely in Nebraska even have a pineapple and a fucking knife. Don't you cut pineapple on your fishing trips? So he's like, dude, I wish,

I wish we could have cooked the fish we caught, but they're, they were too big. That's what we'll tell people. They needed to be smaller fish because everyone knows the first rule of fishing You always want the small fish instead of the big fish. Gosh, I can't believe we let that thing go You want to name the fish Austin? Yeah, he texted me really upset he thinks it was we took a picture of the fish as a jab at him You guys it's season 10 and this is your fight. Austin's mad that he named a dead fish after him. Come on, man.

Bring in the riders. It's really not. No, it's not. It's not a jab. It had nothing to do with Austin. It just had to do with making him feel bad that we're not friends anymore. Well, you know what?

He spirals for all the wrong reasons. We went fishing. That's it. It's ridiculous. Gosh. And so now Craig turns on all his like fire pits and Shep's like, Eureka. And there, you know, Craig is once again, selling his house in the sense of like,

that it should be like the locus of all activities. Like this is my happiest bottom. So that we're here. So he's like, yeah, everybody knows, everybody knows if it's up to me, we just get engaged. And then we see a flashback of that dinner where Craig does, I really want a wife and family.

And Rach just goes, ugh. I mean, but she changes her mind a lot about a lot of stuff. One day she'll text me and say, let's build a farmhouse. And then the next day she'll say I'm gonna move to Charleston And then she'll have a good day in New York and say no, I love it up here Why am I even talking to this yokel down in Charleston? Oops sent that to the wrong person Sort of messages. I'm you waiting a few years advocate Okay

but like the crazy thing is like if I wait like More than that cuz like a few years can turn into like more than that. Cause like years keep going. What if it turns into like 10 years and then Craig's like, well, life is full of decisions and compromise, you know, and like, and by the way, Shep, you're talking to someone in the Bahamas because you like the person less talk about you." And he's like, yeah, and the crazy thing is I don't get into girls that much, so for it to happen so quickly after Taylor, who was a bit of an epiphany, oh yeah, and then by the way, I dropped the album really early

with Sienna, gosh, I'm a real change adult. Thanks, Ayahuasca. Love me. No, what's that? It's a Lebanese cheese made out of yogurt. Why would I call her Lubny? I don't know. What were we talking about?

I love her, I love her. Of course you do. She's a fucking teenager beauty queen, you fucking weirdo. They, people have been sending around a clip from years ago where a chef's like, gosh, Thomas, being in my 40s, dating someone in their 20s, I mean, it's kind of pathetic. I don't think that would ever happen to me.

Well, welcome. Welcome. Welcome to Bravo. I dropped into a bomb to a gorgeous beauty queen who's totally my real life girlfriend. You know, when I said it, we were not close. I'd all say that. I also, then I said, gosh, and then she had a lot of saliva on her after that.

But this is the first time I've really thought about the future seriously with someone. And then last month we see a flashback of Shep talking about her to Austin and he's like, well, maybe this is what I meant to do for the rest of my life. Go down to the Bahamas, have some kids, sit on the beach, buy a little motel on the white sand, just be Jimmy Buffett without the guitar. I'm like, yeah, Jimmy Buffett without the guitar, significantly less interesting. Then you're just a guy in a Tommy Bahama shirt

being annoying. My plan is to retire and just be the buffet. That's it. Just have retire and just be the buffet. That's it. Just have that. Just be the buffet. I don't need a beach. I just want a golden corral.

I want a golden corral with a bed in it. I just want a cheeseburger and it can be in paradise, but it can also not be in paradise. So he's like, we're exclusive, I think. I mean, we haven't really talked about it, but basically, I mean, how can you not be? Has she seen you eat peanuts? You're not exclusive.

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Which is I started the tuba when I was 10 or 11 and I almost got I got like pretty much a full ride To college for music. So she rode a tuba to college, which is pretty cool But then her modeling career took off So she stopped playing the tuba and then she got lip filler and now the lip filler is making it harder for her to play So it's the it's the challenges of being a tuba player. Yeah, it's rough. It's a rough life out there. It's rough out there for a tuba girl. UFO lands in Suffolk and that's official, said the news of the world.

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So I picked up that tuba and now I'm playing I'm playing to Roxanne every day I'll tell you When I listen to I'll be there for you by Bon Jovi all All I think about is, let's play some tuba. Yeah. When I'm listening to White Lion sing, when the children cried, let him know we tried. I'm like, tuba, it's time for some tuba. Wipe them out.

So she's like, yeah, it was my calling. So I was like always so good at it. And so the next day I sent my euphonium that I hadn't played in a decade off to be cleaned. Okay, so I was like, okay, so this is happening. And then it just kept going. This became like a 10 minute thing. Like it was a full monologue about her tuba.

And she's like, yeah. So I sent my euphonium to be cleaned. And then I contacted Charleston Concert Band which happens to be directed by my high school band teacher and I emailed him and I was like, I don't know if you remember me, I'm the hot girl who plays the police on her tuba. I'm the one who sang,

who played Patience by Guns N' Roses on a tuba. I'm the one who sang, who played Patience by Guns N' Roses on Atooba. And he was like, Molly, of course I remember you. And then a star was born. It's like, why was that 10 minutes? Who's, is there anybody at work? You know what? I loved it. And then Molly, she shows up at the orchestra and the entire cast, except for Austin and

like maybe Madison, uh, they all show up and they take their seats and then chef is like, I can't find her. He's like a dog with like object permanence issues. It's like the balls behind the tree. It's gone. She's gone. She's evaporated. It's like, look behind the Viola. And so, um, well in his defense, it is kind of hard to find one blonde in the Sea of Charleston residence. That's true. Like, how are you supposed to find? It's like the find, you know, where's Waldo?

And he's like... By the way, the audience... Go ahead. I'm so, I'm so sorry. No, go ahead. I was going to say the editors are, I think they're trying to push a narrative that Shep has secret feelings for Molly, right?

Yeah, because Molly was like, I mean, I guess I do him. Like, this paycheck's decent. And then Shep's like, well, I guess I would do her too, because, you know, I find the fact that she's a trained musician incredibly charming. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Okay, all right. It was like, I think it was like looking around for like, where is she?

Where's the true love of my life? Um, so then it starts and this is where Shep starts doing his conducting fingers, which is like really embarrassing. And then, and then JT and Venita started talking and I was like, why are you talking during a classical concert? Like, like I go, I hate that. Like anytime I go to the Hollywood bowl, um, to see like classical music, cause they do like on the summers, during a classical concert. Like I go, I hate that. Like anytime I go to the Hollywood bowl to see like classical music,

because they do like, in the summers they do classicals on like Tuesdays and Thursdays. And it's really fun. And like thousands of people show up and there's always people just yammering away. And it's like, it's, I don't know. It's just, it's not,

this is not a Guns N' Roses concert. It's like for classical music, you're supposed to be like quiet and like listen and be like, you're supposed to be like quiet and like listen and be like, mm, you're supposed to be like... Pensive. Pensive and thoughtful, but you do want that because you actually need to really kind of like listen in a certain, in a different kind of way.

And then JT's like, hey, I really wish I could see you dance to this music, Vanita. I was like, quiet over there. I'm trying to listen to this tuba concerto. And of course her answer is, I have the perfect dress for it. She'm trying to listen to this tuba concerto. And of course her answer is, I have the perfect dress for it.

So she relates everything to fashion. And then we get to Molly's big tuba and she's like, do do do do do do do do. Nailed it, nailed it. She starts crying. She was like, I love music so much. I just want to do the song justice. And I did.

Music really changes you. She starts crying. She's like, I'm crying over the tumor. Like, is she doing We Are The World? So- I mean, it was kind of cute, but she, I just like, I need her to be like, are you flirting with that guy

and the, you know, the potbellied guy over there with the other tuba? Like what's going on in tuba? It's just the tuba. Oh, okay, it's just the tuba. It's just a tuba concert. Southern hospitubably. That's what I would like to see, a spin-off of everyone

in the symphony fucking each other. So now it's the post, listen, post show, post show, post party, post tuba party at JT's event space. So everyone shows up and JT's offering drinks. When he just pulls the door off of a mini fridge, which I thought was funny, and he doesn't say anything about it, he just kind of like puts it back and is like,

oh, oh, oh. Well, say anything about it, he just kind of like puts it back and is like, he's like a gas that there is such a mini fridge, like that a mini fridge even exists. You know, in his life, it's just like all sub zeros, top, top, top of the line, like fancy ass fridges. He's like, what is this strange black and Decker thing? Oh, mother. But I think it also probably says something about that remodel, right?

Was it like a fridge cover door? You know how they build those doors over the doors? Yeah, I think it was like there was a door to access the fridge area and then the doors came. Then the fridge door itself came. You pulled off it. Yeah, I agree. It speaks to the workmanship of that Airbnb.

Yeah. So he pours a drink for JT. He's like, you can't have it over I so, man up. Have a meat. So he's like, yeah, you know, I've never disliked JT, but in deference to Austin, you know, I've always had Austin's back. So obviously, you want to defend your mother's honor too.

So it seems hard to believe, you know, but you never know what's gonna come out of his mouth. You just never know. He's only been doing anything on this show. At least, you know, you as a producer should at least appreciate it. I also love that having Austin's back ranks higher than his defending his mother's honor.

I'm like, excuse you. Now with Austin, you do always know what's gonna come out of his mouth. It's gonna be spit. So then JT is, but to be fair, that's actually half the- Half the food and spittle. That's also half the cast of the show, to be honest. So-

Seriously, they keep talking about manners on this show, but nobody closes their mouth while they eat. I can't watch these people eat. It's like when you watch the zombie movie and the people who are starving, like they finally find a can of food in some cupboard, you know, like eight months after the zombie apocalypse. And it's like rotten green beans

and they just start eating it with their hands and shoving it down their face. That's how this whole cast eats. That's also how I eat when we're done podcasting. I'm like, ah. So JT, he's like really like on pins and needles around Whitney, cause he knows this is like his reintroduction to the cast.

It's like the first time people are willing to hang out with him en masse. So Taylor arrives and then she starts like moving around. There's like a chafer of macaroni. She's like moving around to get the macaroni, I guess more integrated. And he's like losing his mind cause he's afraid that she's gonna spill it

all over the place, which he does not do. But I actually was nervous for him as well. I was for sure expecting that to fall all over the carpet. And she's like, I assumed that that chef who just left a half eaten chicken tender right there. He's like, yeah, yeah it is. She only seems like a normal person with any life behind her eyes when she's around chef.

Do you notice that? Because when she's around Shep. Do you notice that? Because when Shep's around, she's like, well, you're only bringing one fucking plate for yourself? Nice Shep, go get more plates. What is this Shep's fucking chicken wing? And then the minute it's done having to do with Shep, she's back to like, I love macaroni. I need it to not touch the sides of the aluminum. So the more people arrive, there's like champagne.

Shep offers Molly champagne, but of course, they make it seem like a very romantic moment. And JT's just like talking to Taylor and he's like, you know, asking how she is. They're in the kitchen and he's like taking off his blazer. She's like, oh no, leave it on. He's like, I don't care. It's just us. no, leave it on. He's like, I don't care. It's just us. Cause by your armpit sweat. He's like, do you mind?

We're just friends. We're just friends who can have armpit sweat or no armpit sweat can go either way. That just speaks to our friendship. And I'm establishing that we have friendship cause I'm about to, you know, try to, you know rock your world in a moment. Yeah.

And she's like, well, you know, your scab looks good. Looks better than last time I saw her. That poor guy can't win. This is the girl he declared his love for this year. And she's like, oh my god, your pit stains. Ew, your scab. I know. So Shep is like walking around.

He's got like a scarf on his neck. And I think it was Leva who goes, Shep looks like a poet today. He looks like he practices tantric sex. And then it comes back to Tay and she's like, yeah, so JT, we haven't seen each other since the horse race. And he's like, yeah, you know, you shady dipped, you didn't even say goodbye. She's like, yeah, well, I'm glad your scab is better. Like I said before.

And then we come back to Shep, and he is now talking to Sally and Vidyanda about tantric sex because they didn't understand Lava's joke. Yeah, they don't know what tantric sex is, which is crazy, right? Yeah, that is a little odd, but maybe if you weren't raised in the sting era,

then speaking of the police, maybe you didn't have as much of an awareness of Tantric sex. Well, I think these are people who also grew up with internet, so they had access to like boobies and penises on their phones or whatever. And the rest of us were having to look at like national geographics or international males

or books on Tantric sex in our libraries. Yes. Remember when we saw Sting in the airport? Do you remember that at LAX? What was he like? He looked, he was like, in my mind, he was dressed like Scrooge McDuck. He was like, yeah.

In my mind, he's like a pinky after you've been in the hot tub for too long. You know what's funny? He actually was wearing a scarf like Shep now that I think about it. And he had like a little hat on and we were like, is that Sting? And I just like imagining that, that person having tantric sex is like so strange.

But now that Lev has called out like the scarf tantric sex connection, like I gotta say, we saw it with our own eyes. Tanner Iskra So they're like, what is that? And Shep's like, oh my God, tantric sex is so stupid. It takes forever. I hate doing that. Because you know Shep's like a two minute wonder. Yeah.

What's the opposite of tantric? One trick. He's like tantrum. He's a one trick wonder. He's just like, Garsh, Garsh. Garsh, okay, thanks. You can go now. Oh, okay, I'm done.

So, Molly is all, she's right there with him. She's like, I don't need hours. My vagina will fall off. I mean, that sounds like too much work for me. I wanna go to bed at 10.30, okay? I want my lips around a tuba, not a penis, okay? I don't wanna be up doing all that. Leave me alone.

Agreed, tantric sex is too much work. Also, it's just called kind of sex after you're 40. Just takes forever, it's like, oh God, Jesus Christ, can we just make this happen? So Craig is like Whitney, what's your favorite sex position? Oh, oh, downward dog, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. That says a lot, right?

So then Taylor is telling JT, we go back to Taylor and JT and he's like, well, I'm trying to be delicate here, but you know, I just know so much about Sally and Gaston's relationship and it was a fling. Oh, I'm sorry, I moved my face too much. It was a fling, a fa-ling. No, it was month long. It was like a really good tantric sex section, a fa-ling. No, it was month long. It was like a really good tantric sex section, you know? No.

No, it was. She was in love with him, okay? And then he's trying to have this like talk with Taylor and then Shep comes out of nowhere and just barges into the fridge and he's like looking for something. It's like, clang clang clang clang clang clang cl clanging, clanging, clanging, clanging, clanging, clanging, clanging, clanging,

and just goes on for like a minute and they're just staring at him waiting for him to leave. Well, maybe she wasn't, maybe she was in love with him. Maybe that's why she's dragging his name cause she's not over him. Well, I'm just going to say something and you're going to hate me for this, okay? But Gaston, he was cheating on my friend with Sally.

She's like, no, I'm not doing that. We're not bashing my boyfriend, period. I'm going to storm out of here. I cannot stand this. Hey everybody, I am leaving. He's being an asshole, just like this one. And she points at Sally. Sally's like, what I do?

Jesus. Trying to drag my boyfriend's name. And Sally just goes, it's an easy name to drag. This is diabolical shit that everyone's, this is the diabolical shit that everyone's experiencing with JT, which by the way, we know the real reason why Taylor is storming out. It's because Gaston was like, don't go to that party.

They're just going to talk shit about me. And if you, if you have any loyalty to me, you should stay home. And she's like, I've got to go to the party. It's my job. So she goes to the party and someone talks shit about Gaston and now she's going to." And she's like, I've got to go to the party. It's my job. So she goes to the party and someone talks to her about Gaston. And now she's going to be like, damn, and I'm going to be in trouble with him.

So she's so frustrated and upset about that. She now has to lash out at everyone. I mean, I don't know, we haven't seen that side of Gaston yet. So I can't really say. I mean, I thought his advisor was pretty good. He's like, well, if you don't want to go, don't go. You don't need to kiss their ass. But he wasn't like, don't go.

So I don't know, because that's coming from Sally. But I need to hear what Sally has to say about him first, because I can't really tell. Sally's the only one I trust, honestly, about this. JT, I don't know why. JT just saying this to Taylor is also, I think it's actually rude, because he doesn't preface it with, listen,

I know you're very happy right now with Gaston. He seems like a cool guy, but I just want you to know, like I just want to, as your friend, I just want to warn you. I heard this stuff and I want you to consider it and you can either, you can either dismiss it or you can think about it. But I feel like a shitty friend if I didn't tell you this. And I know that he had you with someone. Like he didn't frame it like from a place of concern.

He framed it like a, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I know something about this guy. And so like I kind of get why she's pissed too. Well, yeah, because JT is, first of all, he acts like he's the douchebag hunter. He's like white knighting for all of these girls, but he just wants, he's a simp. He just wants to bang the girl. So, and he's already said that he's in love with her. So of course he's going tochebag hunter, he's like white knighting for all of these girls, but he just wants, he's a simp, he just wants to bang the girl.

So, and he's already said that he's in love with her, so of course he's gonna come for her boyfriend. And if he was a real friend, he would have called her. I mean, they haven't talked in how long, you could have just called the chick, but you wait until everybody's there and it's a cast moment on camera, which I get that it's a reality show and everything,

I'm not stupid, but. But even if, even if it's on camera, like just take her to coffee and like have an intimate moment of like sharing and everything, I'm not stupid. But even if it's on camera, like just take her to coffee and like have an intimate moment of like sharing and vulnerability, but like doing it in the kitchen and Shep is there and everything where she can be set up for like group humiliation, you know, like as much as like I don't think that Taylor should be with Gaston from everything that sounds like

we're hearing about him, I don't think that JT was correct in the way he handled this at all. And I know that Taylor tries to use big words sounds like we're hearing about him. I don't think that JT was correct in the way he handled this at all. And I know that Taylor tries to use big words because she dated Chet for a second, but diabolical, he's not being diabolical. He's telling you he's here. And he's not being diabolical.

He's a douchebag, you fucking weirdo. So Craig's like, well, Sally, you just got a straight bullet. She's like, well, I told her, I told her his name would not be in my mouth. She has such an odd voice, I can't really get it yet. She hasn't said that much, but she has like kind of Such an odd voice. I can't really get it yet. She hasn't said that much, but she's like kind of a way of talking.

I'll get it one day. But she's like, I told her his name would not be in my mouth and it has not been in my mouth since my party. And so then Taylor's telling Whitney, she's just going around, she seems panicked. She's like, he's a high-polical. He's saying things about my boyfriend. Ah, ah!

Taylor, everybody's saying the same thing about your boyfriend. They all say he sucks. So here comes a self-congratulatory monologue from JT. Well, I don't know if being an arbiter of truth makes you a bad person, but I do care about Taylor, her well-being, her future. I'm coming at this with no agenda for myself, only to make sure she proceeds with her own decision making from here and that she has the information. Hashtag truth teller. Yeah, no agenda whatsoever. He is kind of like Thomas Ravenal where he's always running for mayor. Am I the arbiter of truth? I hope thoughtfully she proceeds forward with the candid accuracy she'll need in this procedure to discover of the second way you talking like that and Taylor's like he's making up shit and

She goes. Yeah, he's making up shit about my boyfriend like this one and she points at Sally again. She's like What the hell So when he's like, oh, did you ask him where he's getting his information? Because I don't give a shit. He's pulling it out of his asshole. That's where he's getting it. That's not good. This is his place and he can be an asshole in his own place. And he's like, I'm not an asshole. I'm just telling the truth. No, you're not. I'm not doing this. I'm sorry, Ronnie, I found the same trap. Too much emotion. No, you're not. I'm not doing this. I'm sorry, Ronnie, I fell in the same trap. Too much emotion.

No, you're not. I'm not doing this. I'm good. He's been diabolical and he's not stopping. So she leaves and Sally's like, Jesus, what'd you say to her? And he's like, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. She just doesn't know the extent of the relationship you had with Gaston and it's messed up

It is messed up Well, what was the extent of it Sally? Why do you hate him so much? well Taylor thinks it was a summer fling and Sally's like, um, we said I love you to each other and And then he's like, you know what it was Sally and. And Craig's like, why does it matter, JT? What's the point? Which is exactly the truth. I mean, I agree with Craig on this point. So JT is like, well, it's one of those things

where you were the other woman and it was a full blown affair. And Craig's like, wait, JT, which he's saying, Sally, you were the other woman. Like you had an affair with this guy, so he's a cheater, right? Is what he's saying. So Craig's like, well, JT, why are you doing this again?

It's not your business. Taylor's not your girlfriend, but she is my friend. And as the head of Simprotecta Everywhere, I must proceed with caution down this path of rivalry and thornery. I just, I really want to know who JT voted for because he talks a lot about truth. So I'm just really, I'm really intrigued. So then JT is like, I'm just trying to be truth social with you guys.

Truth. I'm about truth and social experiences. So, um, Sally, your own research. Sally's like, so what are you trying to say that I home wrecked Gaston? He's like, you did. And she goes, look, I went to Royal American with my friend, which I don't know what Royal American is. Is that like a, is that a museum park or is that like a cruise that like just only like circles around Charleston? But she's like, I went back.

It's that Kentucky castle that Brittany got married in. The Royal American Royal menu classics include all 32 ounce punches, house made beef jerky, house ground hamburgers and patty melts, and muffled letter sandwiches. It's just a big old steak house. I thought it was like a theme park or a cruise. I literally did. A good one. It's got four and a half stars

Thank you very much from 961 Google reviews Finally, thank you, Ronnie. You're not a true when it wasn't super crowded. It was delicious. I loved the patty melt Unfortunately some slut stole my husband in the middle of my meal Sally Sally, Sally, Sally, Sally. So Sally's like, okay, so I went to Royal American with my friend because it was two for one happy hour. We got three steaks, which was straight crazy.

They don't really know how they're math there, but it worked out well for us. Anyway, Gaston was there and he was touching my leg. Strange, because we weren't at the same table, but I had no fucking clue he had a girlfriend, except for the girl he was with. And so one thing led to another, and we were just making out in the parking garage. And, you know, I sucked his dick a little bit,

kind of tasted like Bernays sauce, but hey, you know, it worked for me. And Rod goes, not a little bit. I love that Rod is just there to give, like, a little gay thing every once in a while. Not a little bit. every once in a while. Not a little bit. So Sally's like, and then I found out he had a girlfriend and I'm owning my shit right

now there. I found out. Okay. And did I stop? No, I kept going because I was already hooked at that point. You have one Bernays penis, you're never going back. It's not easy sauce to make. Oh my god. It's not easy sauce to make Mike So Jay so in short Sally went to this like cheesy like it's basically the Saddle Ranch of Charleston

Blue gas door in the parking lot and then she's like there. I was left. You're right Sally sounds like she loved to me. Geez I like I like she's like, are you saying I was the other woman? I was not the other woman I merely gave him a blow job at the steak house and had no idea he was with someone else. And when I did find out he was with someone else, well, I mean, obviously naturally I stayed because that was dignitized. So I'm not the other woman. I was just the dignitized woman. It's not a different sin. I mean, it's the same sin. I didn't know it was a sin. So would it even count as a sin? I didn't know. And then the sin just continued because it was the original sin. What are you gonna do?

I actually kinda love this whole, I kinda love Sally. She's like, it was true love. I blew him in the parking lot of a steakhouse. Don't know what you're gonna do. The Royal American. That is so fucking funny. But also fuck JT.

Since when is he like, oh, I'm standing up for women, but then you're going to slut shame the woman. She wasn't in a relationship. He was. Fuck him. Yeah, his fault. So Sally's like, which I guess he is shaming him too, but leave Sally alone.

Yeah, leave Sally alone. Right. So Sally's like, you know, he broke up with his girlfriend and then me and him had a relationship and he met my dying grandmother at 96 years old. The last guy that she met in my life was him. Ha ha, I pulled the grandma card. Take that." So, she basically is like, you don't know how much that guy scarred me. And Shep was like, what? But why would you hook up with him? He's not a good looking. Like he says, he's not a good looking. Like there's categories for Shep of types of people.

They're a good looking, they're an ugly. But also Shep, honestly. But also Shep. Like, hi, hi, I don't know, pots, kettles. And they're like, what? And Shep is like, I mean, I'm just saying he looks mid, average, me-like. I mean, I'm just saying he looks mid average, me like.

We're just gonna sit in the thoughts of. What'd you say? I thought you paused. I came back onto the screen to see if our, what'd you say? Did I miss it? Said he looks mid average, me like. Me like, yeah. I thought you were gonna, and then pause.

I was like, we're just gonna sit in the irony of Shep saying that Gaston is so, is like deeply average looking and shocking that she was a couple of them. Shep ugly shaming anybody is ridiculous. And then Vanita's like, oh my God, you said mid? Who taught you that? And he's like, who, seriously though? So Craig's like, GT, this is everybody's problem with you.

Like, cause you say stuff and and has nothing to do with you. And there's no purpose. Like, why would you? What would you like Sally to do in this moment? You know, now that you've brought up a whole bunch of shit, that's not your business, like, what are you getting out of it? And he's like, I think the truth would help Taylor get out of where she is. And into my Airbnb, where there is now a broken mini fridge, who broke that?

Let me tell you something, JT. Taylor has been faced with this truth many, many, many times on the show, okay? She sees red flags and she's not like a human and says, oh, I better have caution. She's like a bull and charges towards them. At a certain point, you just have to keep the truth to yourself and let her make her own mistakes.

Also, no one's going to fuck you. So just stop. She's not going to fuck you just because you're telling her her boyfriend's an asshole. That's not going to get you anywhere. So cut it out. Yeah. So Craig is like, he's like, you're being such an asshole, dude. And now you're going to make us look bad for going fishing with you. Greg's worried about his fishing reputation. So then Ryan- He's like, that's on Instagram. The internet is forever. So then Ryan decides to come out of nowhere and have a line. I'm still wondering how he got on the poster for this show. But he's like, Ryan, you can't do this to people's lives. And this is what I've heard that you've been doing to other people. And it feels very threatening.

It's like, well, you got that one out. It was like it was Ryan's turn at the school play. And like we've been waiting all season. Like you see, he shows up at things and he gets like a like his boyfriend, who's not even like technically on the show has had more lines than Ryan. So Ryan's finally like, uh, uh,'s finally like, you're ruining people's lives. And so JT's like, oh, everything you said is eloquent and well articulated, except what is the truth?

And then JT's like, well, here's the deal. Sorry, Mr. cute fake eyebrows and a shitty hairline guy. I'm like, you're the one who's walking around with bit stains here, JT, so let's settle down. JT's also a fucking beaver with plugs. I don't know who he's talking about either. All these guys ugly shaming on this show need to take a good long hard look at themselves, okay? And he's like, not this,

I'm gonna tell the truth on my friends, and that is period. And if you know someone's heading straight to a car accident and you could stop it, would you say something or would you let your friend get crushed? Well, I mean, I don't know if the car is already driving. What am I supposed to do? Jump in a moving car? No, fuck that.

They're the ones who didn't buckle their seatbelt. You say it once and if they don't notice that the car is coming down towards them, then they're done. So Vanita's like, well, she doesn't like it and isn't receiving it. So why do you keep pushing it? And he's like, well, a true friend will tell you the hard truth. But yeah, okay.

That's fine. I hate when people say like, I'm just being honest. You can be honest. You can tell hard truths, but you can also have a delivery that's a little bit more thoughtful. And that's what's missing here. So Venita is like, but it's just funny listening to Craig scream about it and have this big fit about it because wasn't Craig's whole storyline last year or the year before trying to break up Taylor and Shep because Shep was abused, like emotionally abusive to Taylor. Wasn't that awesome? And Craig's whole thing is that they were having

talks with Taylor. He's a real piece of shit, get away from him. So I don't know that you really- Craig is the biggest hypocrite here. Craig is yelling at JT. JT is saying he's in orbit of truth and he's gonna stand up for the truth. And Craig is mad at JT for saying that

when Craig is literally doing the same thing, but just aiming it towards JT. But his delivery is much better. And that's what it's all about. JT has terrible delivery. And so, Vanita's base, Vanita tells us that like when JT's alone, she gets Jared, not JT and like tender and quiet.

But then in the group, he becomes very performative. Listen, I think you're getting the fake one when he's quiet. I think everybody else's, I think the real one is the performative one. As you probably found out when he ghosted you and started, you know, dating some chick on Instagram, but yeah, he's not, he's not nice. He's faking it. Men fake it in bed. They don't fake it out of bed.

You're getting the real one out of bed. Hmm. So JT is like, well, this is a good opportunity for me to speak my side of things, a lot of what's been said about me and the friend group has been echoed in error. So. Echoed in error. The JT story. The Jared T story.

It's echoed in error's tour. So Venita then of course like whispers to Lava, she's like, JT looks kind of yummy in that shirt. Which means this is really highlights the fact that there are so such slim pickings in Charleston that Vanita, at this point, Vanita has lowered her bar so much that she's saying these things on camera. Yeah, and Craig's like,

I asked you to stay out of people's business unless it concerns you and you promised me that you could do. What are you the fucking mayor? What, since when is Craig the leader of everything? Go back to your pillow store, sir. And Craig is so messy, so JT's like, well it does concern me, Craig.

Why don't you just have my back? But she asked you not to tell her, it's not up to you. You made Taylor cry and Sally half cry. Sally cry more so I could have a double cry. Really embarrassing. I'm trying, Craig, I'm really trying. JT was kicked out of this group in the first place because of you, Craig.

Not because of himself. You were the one who got him kicked out and now you're the one who gets to decide whether or not he gets to come back in. He's such an asshole, I don't care. He can have better delivery than everybody else, but he's such a fucking asshole. Well, you're being a real good lawyer right now

because you're projecting something I don't understand. Well, why do you want to dare Sally now? By the way, that's the first time Craig's ever been told that. You're being a really good lawyer right now. I know. So, JT's like, oh Oh Craig, you stick with it. You stick with that. It's like, this isn't the same person that we went fishing

with earlier this week. I'm going to be in such trouble for fishing with you. Now, JT's like, I am happy and I am not and I am conned and I'm just telling the truth. He's like, dude says I'm out of here. That's it. JT and all the important boys are leaving with me. So he like starts to leave and then Whitney, you know, all the guys are like, we're leaving with Craig. And JT is like, that stuff's actually bullshit.

That's the shit I got at the driving range right there. And Lev was like, wait, stop, shop. I need you to stay shop. I want to know, did he call Ms Patricia a bad name?" Shep Shep I did not. I never said the B word. Jared Sarkissian And she's like, Shep, did you hear it? And he's like, Shep I don't remember hearing that, but I probably couldn't hear it over the sound of my beating

heart after I found the love of my life. Jared Sarkissian And so Whitney is like, Craig, Craig said you did say that. And he's like, I did not call your mother the B word. I'm getting gaslit. So when he's like, so he leaves because he this like would actually also shatter the narrative that he's built in his head, I think over the past few weeks, so he leaves. So Shep is like, gosh, can I say something? I think you've told Taylor what a lot of people in our life are unable or unwilling to tell her, unlike what I'm Like, gosh, can I say something? I think you've told Taylor what a lot of people in her life

are unable or unwilling to tell her, unlike what I'm willing and able to tell my girlfriend, I love you, Sienna. Anyway, so this is the wake that her boyfriend has left as far as women. Nobody's like, oh, he's a good guy. And everyone's like, double middle finger, like, fuck you, you know?

So you did that. Again, Shep, Taylor is part of the wake that you've left behind of pissed off women. What are you talking about? These guys are so hilarious. So Shep's like, yeah, you know, I think that you're right, but there's different ways to skin a cat. By the way, next time on boys night,

we should skin cats. You've never skinned a cat. They can skin cats in Nebraska. Get some hobbies, loser. It really hurt me to have to hurt her. That's what a real friend does though. And Shep's like, that's your takeaway that you're upset? And Leva's like, Shep is saying it's not serving her right now.

Also not serving her any of my staff. Get back to work, idiots. But the only thing making Taylor right now, happy right now, is Gaston, guys. And so JT's like, Leva, I'm not coming in on hot on you, but if I have a friend who's on heroin or alcohol, I'm not saying heroin or how alcohol makes you happy. I'm not gonna turn a blind eye.

I'm gonna say stop drinking. They just look at him like, well, what else did you do? He's like, I'm going to say, stop drinking, stop doing heroin. And she's like, but don't be a hammer about it. JT is like, why is everyone saying, don't tell people the truth. What is this? This facade is, it is just a facade where the truth is now like now the truth is the bad guy. I live in a facade where the truth is now, like now the truth is the bad guy, I live in a world where the truth is welcomed. So he's like, he's gonna walk outside because as a defender of the truth, he just can't bear to be in this house of lies.

He's such a black house guy. It's so ridiculous. And Vanita goes after him. So Vanita runs, yeah, Vanita runs after her yummy man. And he's like, I've had enough. I'm not gonna sit in my own space, knowingita runs, yeah, Venita runs after her yummy man. And he's like, I've had enough. I'm not gonna sit in my own space, knowing my truth, my heart, and knowing I'm a good man. And being talked to this, to you like this by Craig,

I'm a man of honor. I'm gonna always be like that. I'll stand up to the bullies. I'll stand up to the mean girls. Venita's like, okay, can you give me a second to talk? Because you're just embarrassing yourself more on camera. Okay, to Craig's point, you guys had this good fishing trip and now his feelings are hurt because you're doing something you said you weren't going to do.

It's like, what was real? I'm so sorry for being real. What are we going to start suing cheese, American sliced cheeses for being real? Well, I'm sorry. I will not stand it. I stand up for women. I stand up for men. I stand up for American cheese, because that's the kind of man I am, an American cheese defender. And I will continue until the day I die down this path. And Vanita's like, yeah, Taylor can't handle that. And at what point, like, when do you not make that be the thing that's driving the conversation? He goes, who's my first time telling her? Maybe next time I won't, but this time I told

her the truth. I don't tell any good friend that I care about. And Vanita's like, yeah, but like, if Taylor comes back again, are you going to say something to her? Like, I'm sorry to clear the air. So you're not outside the group. He goes, I don't care if I'm outside cause I love you and I don't care, but I'm going to stand for goodness because that's the kind of guy I am for you and all the people that are real.

I will be a martyr for the truth and American cheese. He's so ridiculous. And he's like, no matter what happens to this friend group, I want you to know, I ponder and pensive miss every day that I care about you, Venita. I care about you. And she's like, well, the level of stress you provide. Hold on, let me take a drink of this. Craig comes around and saves her. It's like, damn it, it's diamond again. Oh, that's real. Thanks everyone for listening to this episode, fun times.

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