Watch What Crappens - #2705 RHOP S9E16: Doggy Styles

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

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Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to watch her crap and add free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Hey y'all, it's your girl Kiki Palmer and let me tell you, we're kicking off this new year with a whole new mindset. If you're ready for that new year, new mindset energy, you've got to tune into, baby, this is Kiki Palmer. If you're looking for more podcasts to help you tend to your well-being, check out New Year New Mindset on the Wondry app. Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that

we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today, Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie, how are you? Hello, hello. I'm here live in New York City. Oh, beautiful. I will be joining you there shortly enough, but right now I am in Westchester, New York

in my childhood bedroom and it's winter, so the bonnet is on the air conditioner. I love an air conditioner bonnet. I know, we are both in New York because the Golden Crappies are on Saturday. And so I'm here visiting my parents up in Westchester before I relocate down to the city. We are so excited. First of all, thank you so much to everyone who came out to San Francisco and to San Diego

this past weekend to celebrate our birthday and also the kickoff of our mounting hysteria tour. It was really so fun to be back out on stage and to see familiar faces and new faces. Everyone was so sweet and so kind. So a big heartfelt thanks for coming out to our shows. And then like, I mean, Saturday, it's gonna be crazy. I think we're almost sold out at that theater. I think there's like 40 tickets left.

It's amazing. We're gonna have a wonderful lineup. So excited for the golden crappies. You can still vote. The ballot is at watchercrappens.com. Some of those races are like separated by like 40 votes. So like every vote matters. And on top of that, if you can't make it to the ceremony, you can stream it anywhere you are in the world because we've partnered with Kiswee. So the link to get a streaming ticket is also on our website. It's gonna be really an amazing time.

We're in the final stretch here, trying to finish up all these odds and ends. And I am just- I ain't finishing shit, I'm starting shit. Okay, I'm starting, I'm just starting a lot of this stuff. But it's gonna come together by then. And of course, I can starting. I'm just starting a lot of this stuff, but okay, it's gonna come together by then And of course I can already see on my screen that I'm falling out of sync. I can I can already see that I'm seeing myself talking and I'm seeing my lips flapping from a totally different part So my camera is already out of sync. So apologies to those watching with crappers on demand if I'm a little out of sync today, but you know

Childhood bedroom issues. what can you do? Yeah. So just go with the general face, you know? There's Ben's general face. Okay. Look at Ronnie. Look at Ronnie. Okay. Don't look at me. My lips are going to confuse everyone. My gorgeousness is going to confuse everyone. Don't stare at me too long. You'll turn into salt. Okay. So here we go. Let's get into some real housewives of Potomac. This is almost the season. How is this not the season finale? Honestly, it's episode 16. End it. Cut the cord. Nothing has happened. Make it stop.

You know what? The problem was they spent too long in Panama. Panama then was not a good vacation. It really killed the momentum of the season. I did actually, you know, I feel like the show kind of got its bearings again this episode. You know, at first it didn't, but I thought that entire scene later on that we're obviously about to get into about Karen not going to Stacey's thing and Giselle just like giving Stacey so much shit was hilarious. I was like, okay, signs of life. The show's coming back for the finale. Well, Giselle's just like with the finale, we've done nothing.

I'm just gonna start fights over nothing. She's like, I've done this for long enough that it's my ninth year. I'm just gonna start fights with the nicest person on the cast just because. Like you didn't want me to be a villain? Fine, the show tanked. So I'll be a villain now.

You know, it's like her last, her last inning attempt. And I appreciated it. I was laughing just to watch Stacey get so exacerbated. You know, she's like, what? Yeah, I love Stacey. Like I think Stacey is such a great addition. And I feel like we're not I feel like just in general, are people on Bravo talking enough about Stacey because she just really entertains me with how exasperated she gets. Like, well, I'm shocked. I will stand by this assertion, but I can't believe this. Like watching her get huffy is just like a real joy for me.

Yeah, exasperated is what I meant. I mean, what you said, not exacerbated. I don't know why I said that. But yeah, I think it's hard for people to appreciate her as much as she deserves, only because she's on kind of like a season that's not great. So she's great, but she's on a season that's not great. So she's not getting her proper flowers, you know? Yeah. But you know what? I hope that Bravo sticks with her because she's awesome. Oh, they will. They're not gonna get rid of that chick.

Yeah, so let's dive in. So it's episode 16. I am shocked as you are. 16 episodes. This should have been 13 episodes plus reunions. The truth will set you off. So we're at this drag king show that Ashley's been doing and Karen and Mia are in the middle of a fight because Karen just heard through the grapevine through Ray that Mia has had

the paternity test for Jeremiah for a while now. And she just didn't even bother to tell all the women's the women are still thinking, oh my goodness, this could be a whole unsettled thing. And so, Karen's mad about it. Brenton Larson Yes, we're in paternity test fights today. That's where we're at. So, Karen's like, well, this is cheese, baby. That's what he said. It was very, very clear. And he is like, Gordon may have known sooner, but I only found out a week ago, because the tests were going through many, many layers of Gordon mania. It was very, very difficult to read them. Well, I'm not sure you're doing any of the things that you're saying anymore. I'm like,

Karen, it took you this long to figure that out? How many? We've been onto this from episode three of Mia's first season. Why did it take you this many years? Right? How long have you guys known Mia for Christ's sake? And she's like, well, I'm gonna have to prove myself to you. And she's like, well, let me finish it. I'm not finished. And Stacy's like, this is an ambush. For Karen to hijack Ashley's event, to attack Mia,

it was just inappropriate. It felt mean-spirited, it's just not right. That's not what friends do. This is not a vindictive moment. It's the right thing to do and I'm going to do it. Stop exploiting our emotions. It's not okay. Period. You knew in Panama and you were painting him like a nut. I like that.

You were painting him like a nut. I don't like to paint things and I'm especially not going to paint nuts. So of course Mia goes to the lowest hanging fruit, which is, you're a drunk driver. Why would you talk to me? You have every dick in town. You've got every man in town deciding to open his dick up to you. I've never heard that phrase, men opening their dick up to you. What the hell does that mean?

I think she just conflated like slut shaming, the standard, oh, you open your legs to every man. And she just like, she sort of attached it to men instead by accident. Yeah. So Kierna is like, oh my God, this is just too much, Mia. You know, we shouldn't be discussing this. So, they all start going back inside because, you know, it's a very classy event. They're at a drag king event. So, they're like, don't discuss it at the drag king event.

It's very classy. Can I just take a moment? Like, I try not to feel sorry for people because really, what does it do? I mean, it doesn't really... I mean, if people need some help, help them, you know, or give some empathy if they need it. But general feeling sorry for people, it doesn't help anybody, you know? So, I try not to do that because I find it condescending. I find it to be condescending to do that. But can I just say, I do feel so bad for drag kings. They really get the short end of the stick, no pun intended. I mean, these guys, they have a show, they can't even have a drag king show. Have you ever been to a drag queen show when there's drag

kings brought on? I haven't. So, can the drag kings just have their own show? Why do they have to have drag queens hosting it? Have a drag king show if you're going to do a drag king thing, you know? I mean, inclusivity is great, but we don't give you the... You know, we, like I'm a drag queen. Drag queens don't give you the same... They don't let you in their shows. Maybe they do in some. I'm not saying it never happens, but in general, they don't even get their own shows. Come on, man.

Let's be kinder to drag kings. I was surprised that King Molasses was not hosting this thing. I thought this was King Molasses' show and instead we just saw a lot of King Molasses sort of doing this kind of like dance. I kept cutting to the King Molasses and his arms were just sort of like flailing left and right, up and down like he was like seaweed. But I thought King Molasses was running the show. So it was surprising to see that it was Crystal Edge who was doing it and you know doing standard drag queen pattern like wow my taint my taint hurts. Wow you're never gonna be a drag queen. She said something like oh my taint oh my wig is itching and my taint hurts. I was like okay great.

Oh, my wig is itching and my taint hurts. I was like, okay, great. So yeah, we start getting, Ashley's getting ready, you know, and she's like, no, I have a package, you know, so I'm more prepared. What's my dick like? And Malaise is like, wow, I'm getting a little shy, Ashley. So, you know, coaching Ashley, just have fun, Ashley, just have fun.

And so she's like, it's my first drag show. Um, you know, coaching Ashley, just have fun, Ashley, just have fun. And so she's like, it's my first drag show. So meanwhile, Stacey's telling Mia, don't leave, don't leave the drag show. It's the classiest event in town. Mia's like, I'm not going to be around anybody who's going to question my life and it's not going to support me. Fuck that. Mia, stop doing questionable things.

I mean, Jesus Christ, you fucking liar. Mia is such a compulsive liar. And then when she gets called out, this is how she acts. Boo. She's also the queen of questioning people's lives and not supporting them. That's what she does every episode. So Stacey's like, well, I don't know why Karen is choosing to say this tonight. I think it would be better if you clarify everybody here's thinking you're a liar. I don't need to clarify anything when it comes to my children. Like you literally need to clarify so many things. You're literally getting tests to clarify things. She's like, but do you have to prove that Bella's father is your father?

And do we have to clarify that? No, because she didn't come on TV. She didn't come on TV claiming that the guy is not the father. That's why you have to clarify. You were the one who did this. Nobody else did this, you weirdo. Yeah. Karen's like, one thing is I'm quick, I'm a quick side of the room and Stacey is not supporting me.

She's not saying stop that. Don't say that to Karen. No, because she's gravitating towards Mia, which I am not and I'm not a jealous woman. I just like to know what Mia has on Stacey. It's almost like Mia is the Stacey as traffic medians are to me. I love when- Gravitate right towards them. I love when Mia said, do we have to clarify that Raven is actually fucking Ray's? Because that

shit is actually questionable. It is not. Raven has Ray face. Everybody knows it. Ray could do some gray stippling on her face and pass as Ray. She's tiny peanut version of Ray. You want to talk about painting a peanut, stipple Raven and watch her walk around as Ray. Yeah, exactly. So Mia's like, Karen didn't come to me and she wasn't like, oh my God, like Ray met with G the other day. And Wendy is like, well, Stacy, what side are you standing on? Because I'm confused right now. Well, when you talk about someone's children, you bring it to their mother, you don't bring it out in front of everybody at a drag king show. And so Stacy's like, I'm sorry, Karen, I stand by it. And then Wendy is here to announce everybody,

Jessie's here. And so Jessie's like, hi. And then they cut her out of the rest of the episode. And just I was like, all right, as long as we're introducing people who won't say much, here's Kate, Jessie, nah. And like, oh, there's Kate out of nowhere. Did not expect that. Did not expect that.

Did not expect that either. It was a Bravo chat room callback because Giselle's like, we did a show together, ah, two years ago, ah. Oh, I know Kate. I know Kate. One time she told me you've got time to drink, you've got time to clean the sink. So Kate's like, I'm so excited for this show. I've never been more excited to be anywhere in my life. Well, this is exciting. I can't believe I left Florida to come see a non drag king show.

So Crystal Edge, the drag queen. You know, she's, she's like, I'm forward to keep the shots deep and I have duct tape residue on my chain. There's the taint part for you. There it is. See, I knew there was a taint. And this wig hurts. Everyone's like, ha ha ha ha ha. So Crystal Edge is, are we motherfucking ready for Ashley's drag debut?

Let's give it up for Ash Top. So I don't get that. Is that like Ash Top? Is it like suggesting that men are less creative with names? Therefore, drag kings just have to have stupid names. It's like, hi, I'm Ronnie Dick. I'm Ronnie Penis. Ash, maybe it's an acronym.

Like, um... Temporarily of Potomac. I don't know. So they're all talking about how sexy Ashley is, Ashtop. And Karen's like, I'm turned on. And you know, she's so hot. What's that? I think it was Ash, Ash, T O P. I think it was a plan.

I think it was trying to step Ashley. It was Ash T O P. I think it was a plan. I think it was trying to, instead of Ashley, it was Ash, T O P. If I remember correctly now, now that we say it, so you see it's like, it's wordplay. I'm not Ashley, I'm Ash, T O P. So we're all informed now. When things confuse me, I just kind of like black them out. And I think that's what happened because a lot was happening. There was the drag king performance, which was confusing.

And then there was Ashley like taking off her top during the performance because then I started thinking, well, I mean, I guess you guys do your own thing, but like drag queens, what if a drag queen pulled out their dick? I mean, that would just ruin the whole thing. I don't think you're supposed to do that. So then that confused me. And then the third thing that really confuses me, and we all know it confuses me, boobs. I mean, it took a long time to talk when I was a child, and I think it's because they kept putting boobs in my face. And I think it just kept confusing me. Right. Yeah. So she does this whole thing. It's fun. And Ashley's sort of doing kind of like a lap dance on Karen. And it just is going on, it's fun.

It's a fun little party there. They're all going, woo! And they're partying and everyone's cheering and it's exciting. And then afterwards, Josh is there. That's Ashley's guy that she's been dating. Beavis. And he, what?

Beavis. And then he's like, yeah, that's pretty cool. And she's like, yeah, Josh got some major points tonight. She's like, feel my dick. So then now it's time to gossip again. So Ashley comes over and Wendy's like, so basically Gordon told Ray that everything Mia has been telling us is all lies. And Jacqueline's like, well guys, let me tell you, as someone who is Mia's best friend of all time, Gordon lies a lot too. So let's just not leave it on Mia.

What the hell kind of defense is that? You're supposed to say Mia's not lying. Jacqueline, not other people also lie. You're not helping Jacqueline. She's off the clock. Mia's not there anymore, so she doesn't have to be like sidekick. She's like, oh good, I can go back to talking shit about her. She does do that thing where she's like,

I'm your best friend when Mia's around. And if she's not called Mia's best friend, she has a fit. But then the second Mia leaves, she always betrays her. Always. Standard. Standard. I like it. So Ash is like, she's like, wait, what? This is crazy. Wait, so G's not crazy. He's not having episodes every five seconds. What's going on? And they're like, no. What do you think is going to be true, right, Ben? I think they're both liars, honestly.

I think they're both liars. Gordon could still be in that case. I mean, we shouldn't call it a nutcase because they're talking about like serious, like actual diagnosed things. So I don't mean that. The show was the one that said nuts. But yeah, I mean,

he can still have episodes and she can also be a liar, you know? Yes. And they both can be liars and he can have episodes. It, all, all of the above can be true. Uh, because as far as I can tell, they both seem totally, um, disasterly as the disasterly. Did I just move, put disaster? Did I just do dastardly and disaster together? I think you were, I think you got, um,

you got brainwashed with Bronwyn's, that was dastardly. So now you're bringing it in, you're stopping yourself from bringing it into normal conversation. You're like, I'm not going to say dastardly. I'm not going to do it, but you tried to. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to soft launch that word. I think that Gordon and Mia are disasterly as parents.

Yeah. So that's indisputable. And Karen's like, and she needs therapy. All right. Well, you know, when you're done, you know, with your phone call with the pot, give me a call. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial. Hey y'all, it's your girl Kiki Palmer.

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So now let's go to lunchtime with Giselle, Ashley, Karen and Kay. And they're at a place called The Saga. That's an interesting name for a restaurant. I don't think you want to come back from a restaurant and be like, that was a saga. I think saga is not a good word for that. So Karen's like, well, that was a late night for me, that drag king show. It was a lot. Mia was the fame in my character the whole time, but I expect no less because not only

does she lie with the truth about her life, it makes up all these fables and stories. You know, in Panama, that, you know, she said that your baby belonged to G and you didn't tell us, you don't think that's important? You don't think that's important? Pete Well, why was it so important in Panama? I mean, how did it affect your trip? Dr. Peter Breshears Like, I barely was able to eat my banana pancake in Panama, thinking that that baby could have been someone else's baby? How could I even have lunch? Yeah, it makes me wonder if she had to sit and shoot a scene with Mia where Mia like cried to her and she had to pretend to be sympathetic. So, Ash is like, well, especially because you

rubbed us $1800 in the beginning, you made us part of it. And Gisele is like, you know what, in meeting Mia in the beginning, I was totally bamboozled from her story. I am now eyes wide open." I'm like, again, you guys have called her to her face this season multiple times, a known liar. Why are you shocked? Yeah. So then Kieran is like, ladies, I really wanted to take this moment to talk to you. I was like, oh, Jesus Christ, not about your stupid, boring ass, plain ass boyfriend. So here we go. And sure enough, what else does she talk about? I couldn't be friends with this person. I think she's beautiful. I think she dresses fabulously,

but you know what? It's episode 16 of her second season. She's officially dead. Goodbye. It's done. I mean, she debuted a new look this episode that was absolutely stunning in the confessional. I was like, damn, Kierna, she was like drop dead gorgeous. But you know, like if you really think about it, her whole storyline is how, like the reason why she's on this show is because she has a storyline about being on the show. And last year was diarrhea. So I don't know. It's just, last year was diarrhea and almost getting her head bonked with a champagne bottle and then

getting a scar from a wine glass. Okay. So that's good enough. So I can see why they'd give her another chance. But if you're going to get someone in a physical fight a chance, they have to have the other person that they fought with to have a storyline. Because otherwise it's like, oh, you got hit, you know, which they can't say either because she's mad about her scar. And now she's just talking about Greg not wanting her to be on the show. Now, I know that people are going to jump on me for this, but isn't that his right to not want to be on the show? I feel like if I had a partner and they were like, I want to be on a reality, which first of all, that's crazy to even think of me with a partner, but if I did, and they

were like, I want to be on a reality show, and I said, I don't want to be on a reality show, I think that would be my right to not want to be on a reality show. I mean, these people tear you apart. We are the people. We are some of the people who tear you apart. I don't know. I don't know.

I think, so how do you feel about with Todd and Bronwyn then? He's not. He walks away and he's not really on the show a lot, you know, and he'll walk away more next year, probably. Although I think that guy's kind of a drama queen. I can understand why he wouldn't want to be on the show. I mean, there's a lot of people on these shows that are like, I'm not going to do it. Mary's husband doesn't do it. And there are a lot of husbands who refuse to film. Giselle never shows anything. I mean, what the hell? I think that, well, I think that being like a freshman housewife, you have to show your

relationship. The producers wanted Mary back, so she had leverage enough to say, okay, but Robert Sr. doesn't want to be on the show. They're like, okay, fine. I think that for when, I agree that like, if you don't, like, if your partner wants to be on a reality show, but you don't want to be on either, I think what you do is you support them in being on the show and then you just try to, I don't know, I think you try to support and then you just kind of, I think there's a way to have your partner be on the show without you getting totally dragged into the mess. And if your partner is the type that's going to not protect you while they're on the show,

then maybe that relationship isn't good in the first place. Because I think a lot of times the guys who don't want to come on to reality TV, they usually don't want to because they're insecure. They're scared to go on reality TV because they know on some level they're kind of like they're doing things wrong in their relationship and they know they're going to get called out, which is why you see this happening with Juan Dixon. Why you see this happening with this guy. Why you saw this happening with Stasi's ex boyfriend. Why you saw this happening with Juan Dixon? Why you see this happening with this guy? Why you saw this happening with Stasi's ex boyfriend? Why you saw this? One may be, we didn't see enough of this, but Cameron from Southern, uh,

charm her boyfriend, like, you know, cause what happens is these people then eventually do go on the show and then we see how that they're, they kind of suck and we turned them apart and they say, see, this is why I didn't want to go on the show. But it's like, no, the reason is not see because you didn't want to go on the show because we're going to tear you apart. You didn't want to go on the show because you had going to tear you apart. You didn't want to go on the show because you had to be confronted with the fact that you have personality defects.

Right. But even the nice guys get ripped apart. Even the nice partners get ripped apart on the show. It's just the nature of being on the Housewives show. Like no one gets out of there unscathed. Right? So I think it would be- John Barlow. John Barlow has gotten- John Barlow gets people ragging on him constantly. People are always talking about what a piece of shit and a wussy is and a cuck and this and that and this and that over and over again. No one makes it out of these shows. Look, I just think it's smart as a partner.

This isn't even talking about Greg specifically because Greg does come off as a total asshole. But I guess what's starting to bug me about Kierna is I feel like what he's saying is like, you do this show, and I'll support you doing on the show, but don't drag me into it as far as making me look stupid. And every single time he's on camera, she's like, we need to talk about our relationship because you're not treating me right. And you just see his face. And you see it in this episode where he's like, really?

Like I'm doing another scene with you. And now you're going to talk about what a piece of shit I am again. Now, does Greg seem like a piece of shit? Sure does. I don't like his whole men do this and women do that. I don't like it. I think that she should leave him and stop being so desperate and just clinging on to him because he's a man who wants to get married. I think that's a huge thing that we see. I see it in my friendships all the time with men and women who are just like, this is it. This is my last chance. So I'm going to make it work. And it never works, you know, when that's your idea going in. But I do think that he's kind of an asshole from what

we've seen on the show. So, I'm not even going to argue in his favor, like, he's not an asshole. I'm just saying, I don't think it's that bad that he doesn't want to get on the show. And every single time he's on camera, she's like, now we have to talk about what an asshole you are. And I'm just like, at this point, I'm just like, come on, man, this is kind of unfair. It's starting to seem a little unfair to me. I don't know. I kind of feel like the insecurity that drives him to be an asshole is the same insecurity that makes him get frustrated that he has to talk about it on TV. And I think that like, if he was, if he like stood in his... If he felt fine with who he was and what he did, then he would be okay to have these stupid scenes in these random restaurants with these

goopy shrimp tempura sitting in front of him. Brenton Larson Well, he definitely should be better at faking it and be able to just be like, okay, you want to talk about our relationship? I love you, honey. And, you know, I support you no matter what. Like, he should at least be able to fake it, but he can't fake it. I mean, he's just like, get me out of the car, you know. Jared Sussman He may not want to put this all out there, whatever, but it's also the easiest thing to do is that when she says things like that, he could say, but it's also the easiest thing to do is that when she says things like that, he could say, gosh, I'm really sorry I wasn't attending to your needs. And I, you know, all this time I thought I was, and I didn't even realize I was dismissing you, but apparently I was, things like that.

And that way you can sort of like nip it in the bud. You can look like you're growing and being like a nice person. And then people like us are not sitting here talking about why you're a dick. So- Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He should be faking it, but he's just getting too frustrated. He can't do it. I don't know. But Karina's whole thing, her whole storyline is, I'm with a man who doesn't want me to be on the show, which is weird because it's meta in the first place. But it's like literally every scene is you talking about how he doesn't want you to be on the show, yet here you are on the show and the only thing you have to talk about is him not wanting to be on the show. Like do something else, like Jesus

Christ, your prop doesn't work, you know? Get a new prop. Well, now that being said, like, I agree. It's like if she had something more interesting going on in her life, we wouldn't have to constantly be talking about Greg. And I mean, whatever, I think we both agree she should leave him, she should do better. And I do think that she deserves to be with someone who wants to support her being on the show. And that's just, you know, like that's what she wants in her life. That is what her career choice is. Because ultimately, it also is like, this has been something that's been going on before reality TV. This is like people who are in a relationship together and someone has a job and they have to go to work functions and they have to go do things

and they have to drag their spouse along. And I think a good spouse and good partner bucks up and goes along with it and puts on a smile and just does it. Right. But the difference is that this one affects the partner. This one affects the partner and makes him look stupid on national TV and puts them up in a place that they're going to be knocked down and criticized by the public. So it's not really the same as like, I'm so sick of being a lawyer's wife and having to go to lawyer functions. You know what I mean? They're boring.

It's like a little more than that. I don't know. I just feel like that guy's an asshole and she should leave him despite the fact that he doesn't want to do the show because I think she's just settling and settling never works. Well, settling does work sometimes. She's definitely settling. Yeah, but she's settling and I want better for her.

But also I feel like it's kind of unfair to be dragging your partner if they don't want to. If they don't want to. If he doesn't want to, that's his choice. Leave him alone at this point. Just my God. And also leave me alone. I'm sick of watching him.

I don't like him. He's not likable. He's an asshole. Stop putting him up for me to watch. Get better men. Do something else. Get better casting in your own life. You're interesting.

Yeah. For my interesting. Yeah. For my sake. All right. Well, I think we've basically come to a common ground, which is that she needs to move on from this guy. Yes, she needs to dump this guy. He's not worth her time. Well, yeah.

Cause he has a right to not want to go on reality TV, but he also should then like, they realize they want different things out of life. Yeah, yeah. Got it. Cut the cord. Cut the cord. Cut it. You got it. So that being said, so Kierna, that's issues with Greg. I don't remember where we are. Who cares? This is the talk. They're like, oh my god, blah, blah, blah.

Your boyfriend doesn't want to be on the show. Okay, so then Gisele's like, look, you know, if he's not capable of supporting you, he's never going to support you. And that's true. And Karen's like, you know, Greg makes her feel small and that's a red flag. And Gisele's like, if you were my daughter, I would be telling you everything that you are. Don't let a man ever take that from you ever. And also, Ring cams are cameras and I can see when you are sneaking men in. So please stop.

Yeah. Yeah, so they're basically like, you know, they're like, stay on the show. So then now we see Mia and she's driving and she's on her way to pick up ink from the airport and she's like, hi, where's Sadie's? Can you call my ink? And then it calls her printer. I was like, that's so awkward. She's like, she's like, hi baby, I can't wait to see you.

Oh, hey, I'm rolling up in the airport." So he gets in the car and everything, they're wearing matching clothes and they're just like talking about the kids. Jeremiah wants to see Ink, Ink wants to take them to a game, all that. And this is another example of one partner just wanting to come fake, like a good, happy relationship, which is Mia, and the other partner like messing up their plans, which I kind of was cracking up at this. So she's like, Oh my God, it's me. We basically have another family. We're gonna go to a soccer game together. And then inks like, so

you know, I don't know if Gordon mentioned it, but he did text me about the paternity test and mentioned that you had the results a couple of weeks ago and he hoped you shared those results with me. So, I don't believe he took a test. And she's like, because he's thinking how could you take a paternity test, find out I'm not the father and not tell me it's been two weeks, so he must be lying, right? And she's like, well, I do have results that say 99.9%, but, you know, at the same time, why is it that you do it behind everybody's back? I mean, that was uncool. Pete Slauson Excuse me, you're the one who's been having an affair for years and thought you got

impregnated by another man. I don't think that you have any ground to stand on as far as the doing it behind my back comment, ma'am. Yeah. She goes, well, I don't think Gordon likes the fact that Ink wants to get a paternity test. So I think for him, he's saying, this is my kid, let it rest. Yeah, we get it.

We know why he did it. I love that Mia thinks she has to explain to us why Gordon would get a paternity test. So, uh, Inc is like, you know, or maybe I'll just call Gordon. And so she goes, okay, so you want to call him and goes, well, call Gordon. Why does Gordon have to be the priority every time? She's like, well, he literally just said you were going to call him. just said you were going to call him. It's like, yeah, well, okay. All right. You got me there. Well, I said before I called him, I'm not, I mean, I'm not feeling that at all. I mean, for the past year, you all have been operating without boundaries. That's taking

a toll on us to a certain degree. So she's like, well, it does wish that I was able to cut ties with Gordon completely, but I mean, he's my kid's father and anytime you're dealing with exes and you know, really trying new relationships, it's always going to be a little bit of a tangled web of mania. And he's like, yeah, I just want boundaries. And she's like, well, I'm exhausted and I don't want to do it anymore. But you just said that you're not going to create any boundaries with Gordon too. So they're also fucked. This relationship's also fucked. So then we go to Stacey at the Humane Rescue Alliance. And she's going to have a Strut for

Stray's event coming up. And basically- The original name of Vanderpump Rules, by the way. What? The original name of Vanderpump Rules, by the way. What? The original name of Vanderpump Rules, strut for strays. Yeah. Strut for strays. So she's like, I've loved animals since I've been on this planet. So I'm an ambassador to the Humane Rescue Alliance. So basically, they're going to have a fashion show partnered with a dog walk kind of thing, like a dog walking fashion show, which I know is a thing.

But we also know from the previews at the very beginning of the season that this is how dog poop ends up everywhere. And this is how the season ends with people slipping on dog poop. Yeah, this is going to be a disaster. This is, I mean, not nearly as messy as Bronwyn's house, but you know, yeah, true shit show. So yeah, so they're going to be walking the dogs down the runway. It's always funny when Potomac puts on a fashion show in the first place, but then now they're going to add dogs to it.

So it's going to be a disaster. Vivian's got her work cut out for her, that's for sure. She's like, you know, I've come out with lots of dresses. I just had to cut holes where the poop hole is. So killing it. So Stacey's like, you know, Ashley and I have come a very long way and we see flashbacks of her saying, you put your bunion on my counter. I don't think they've come that far of a way. I think they were like fine. And now they're just like a little bit better. It wasn't like they were, you know, feuding come that far of a way. I think they were fine and now they're just a little bit better. It wasn't like they were feuding in the beginning of the season.

Yeah, I mean, basically, Stacey started out the season as a character who would call people out for having bunions on the counter and then she changed her character. And so I think that that's pretty much as far as Stacey went. Well, I think Stacey learned that putting things on counters in Ashley's household is a sign of love and endearment. So she had no- Yeah, that's her love language. Yeah.

So she's like, well, I'm happy to share this moment with Ashley because I really do consider Ashley a true friend and maybe Ashley can pick out a puppy, the puppy that she's going to walk with." So now they're like, there's dogs and they're playing with them and everything. And so now Stacey and Ashley are... Now that they've played with dogs, now they're going to get into gossiping and stuff like that. Pete So, now they're talking about the lawyer's office and Stacy's like, I'm feeling so good about my mediation. I'm going to get nothing for the rest of my life and my daughter will probably be cut off the second that my husband gets a new wife. So I'm feeling great. And Ashley's like, but

this is like, I was in my lawyer's office and it's a lot different for me because we're the stalemate because he wants a confidentiality clause, but he's not getting it basically. And then we see Ashley's attorney who's like, do you want to really get a divorce or don't you because you're wasting my time. Let's divorce this fucker. Let's do it. And Ashley's like, okay. Yeah. And she's talking about how they're going to make her claim and maybe it'll be a vanilla

claim, maybe it'll be a spicy claim. And then she's basically- A vanilla claim would be a Michael claim because he's very vanilla. And a spicy claim would not be Beavis. He would also be a vanilla claim. So she's saying basically a vanilla claim is when you're nice with each other and a spicy claim is her like, well, you cheated and you did this. And so basically she's kind of threatening him like, do you want to have a nice divorce

or do you want me to out all your craziness? Yeah. And, you know, Stacey's saying she's just looking forward to being able to move on with her life and everything. And as she's asking her about that child support, cause she's like, well, I've waived child support. And in terms of Arabella, he takes care of everything that she needs. So why would I need child support? Clearly he will.

Fathers are known for always supporting their children, especially when they get new families. So I'm really not too concerned. Yeah. And that's what Ashley says. She's like, oh, well, what if he gets remarried? She's like, well, even if he gets remarried, Arabella is still our daughter. And she's like, but this is right for me, Ashley. Trust me. Dun, dun, dun, cut to next year. And she's like, can somebody go donate to Arabella's Amazon wishlist for her school supplies? Also like this just gives him so much leverage too. He can now say things like, well, if you like, I'm not going to pay for Arabella's trip

or school or this or that unless you do this. Like I want you to move out of that house. I don't want to pay for your house anymore. So you need to go move somewhere else. And if you don't, then I'm not going to pay, do X, Y, and Z for Arabella. Like, you can totally do that now. And Ashley is like, yeah, this girl's unemployed and she's dating a guy who's an under five actor. So she needs to get her money, you know? So then she's like, I promise I know him. I know Arabella. I know him and I know Arabella

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He was literally just doing the face of harumph. He was like, he was like rolling his eyes, like opening his mouth, like he's about to say his name, stop, he was like, he was just getting so visibly furious. And her rump face. So, she's like, don't get upset with me, but we did have an argument, right? And he's like, why do we have to talk about this on camera? And she's like, okay, so you don't want to talk about it. You know he doesn't want to talk about it. So, he's just like ignoring her and getting more her umphy. And she's like, okay, then I guess you don't. Fine. And he's like, Jesus Christ. I think that like right now I'm probably like not being as like compromising as I normally am because I spoke to Giselle and Karen and I realized that I'm on the right side. So I'm just going to now grill him on TV. So they get to a

restaurant called Doc's, no relationship to Rails. And, um, Greg has a hard time opening it. I think Greg pushes instead of pulls or something like that. So embarrassing for him after all that heart rump thing. So they sit down and he's wearing flip flops. Okay. So here's Kierna. Do we have to even continue your storyline? The flip flops, the flip flops at the nice restaurant. Yeah. Why? Why was this not exhibit A? You don't have to tell us about arguments. Exhibit A. Exhibit A, we see you in your confessionals. We see the look and the attention that you put into, I'm sorry, the effort and the attention you put into your look. We see that your business is

aesthetics, as literally you have a spa and you do all the stuff. And you have this guy walking into docks wearing flip flops with his slacks. Yeah. Who doesn't know how to open menus. You know? Or doors. Well, it's just so much wrong. Or doors. Yeah. There's just so much wrong with this. I mean, Kierna basically has a dream, a dream to be in a potato sack race, but there's no one to be in the potato sack with her. She can only enter as a two person thing. Are those potato sack races where you both put

one leg in the potato sack? I think you're just individually in your own potato sack and then the three legged races would- Oh, well, what's the one where they have your legs tied together? That's the three legged races would- Oh, well what's so wrong with they have your legs tied together? That's the three legged race. Oh, okay. And you know what? I want to be in the three legged potato sack race, okay?

And she doesn't have anybody to be in the three legged potato sack race with her. They're having a disasterly relationship. I just thought of something else, Ronnie, though. A reason why Greg should stop complaining about the TV thing is because he was all too happy to promote his business on the show and force Kieran to wear a polo shirt for an entire episode. That's true. So if he wants to exploit it, he's got to do the work as well.

Okay. I'll go with that. I just remembered because the flip-flops made me think of the polo shirt. And then I was like, the polo shirt. And then I was like, aha, he was trying to take advantage of being on TV. Well, that's true. Yeah. I mean, the millions he must make from all that social work. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, the most lucrative business there is social work.

So he's like, hey, remember when we met down here two years ago, kind of like in the Harbor East area? She's like, we came a long way. And he's like, yeah. And I feel like we still kind of argue about the same things when maybe it's kind of like personality base. I mean, because you're a woman, I'm a man. So we're also gonna see things differently through different lenses, whether we want to or not. And she's like, well, to me, that's a struggle. And he's like, yeah, and that's noticeable. But you know, sometimes you should just go with the flow. Just calm the fuck down. That's all I'm saying.

Oh my God. Okay, this is why Greg doesn't wanna talk on TV, because someone told him, Greg, don't talk. You sound like an asshole every time you open your mouth. You were an asshole. Don't talk. And so, he's just like, I'm not going to talk. Because look at what he says the minute he opens his mouth. Literally everything he says is wrong. This guy is a train wreck. So, he's like, you know what every woman wants to hear? Calm down. Yeah, exactly. She's like, well, I think for me,

it's a matter of still feeling like, okay, I'm my own woman here because I feel like sometimes I shrink when I move here instead of like being my full self when I'm around you. And he goes, well, that's how you feel. And she's like, but like, I also feel like when we have these conversations, it starts to feel like either it's your way or my way.

And I don't want it to be that way. I want it to be something where we're on the same page and the focus should always be that we try to make it work. So he's like, yeah, because why wouldn't we try to make it work? Otherwise, it's a waste of time, right? So then she goes on and on about how she's disconnected. Kierna, you're disconnected because you're with someone you shouldn't be with. You're with a man in flip-flops. You're in a ball gown. Okay. And so she's like, you know, joining the show is important to me. Then get them either join it single or get somebody else to do it. You can't join couple skate as yourself. Okay? You need a partner who is also in a glittery outfit and tights. That's it.

And another thing, this goes to Bravo now. Bravo, if you're casting people who can only be interesting in the context of their boyfriend, then you're casting the wrong people because Kierna should be able to stand on her own and be interesting on her own. So the fact that Bravo is putting pressure on her to loop in this guy, you know, like he doesn't wanna do it. Find something more interesting

about Kieran to just shoot instead. Like something going on at that spa. One of Bravo's favorite storylines is someone who's happily married and has everything, and then it tanks. So they need her to like be happy for one season probably, and then it can tank and they'll be fine, you know? Yeah. But I mean, look, they need to show a fully fleshed out life. If you're going to be a real housewife, we have to see a fully fleshed out life, but we don't have to see endless scenes of their relationship. It's fine. We've seen lots of relationship stuff. Those are arguably the least interesting scenes that we see. So, like,

you know, I mean, look, we all suspect the reason why Kieran is on the show was because Bravo didn't want her to sue them. And so Bravo's like, hey, be a housewife. And I don't think we all wanted to believe that. But I think it's starting to feel, it just feels more and more like that's the case. Because it's kind of like, what's going on? There's nothing happening over here in this corner of the show. So then she's... We've been talking about the whole episode. Because it's just so frustrating, you know? So then it's frustrating, actually. So then she's... Even though we've been talking about the whole episode. Because it's just so frustrating, you know? So then it's frustrating actually.

So then she says, you know, I feel like I have valid feelings and they're being dismissed. And he goes, I don't dismiss your feelings. She's like, but that's how I feel. He goes, but I don't, I don't dismiss your feelings, okay? So let's order. I do not dismiss your feelings, seriously. Like, that's kind of what you just did three times in a row. Literally doing it. I never dismissed them. He's like, your feelings are school. Yeah, he's like, your feelings are a school and it's 330

and the bell is just rung. So, you're dismissing them? I didn't say that. It's time for your feelings to go. Do you want something to drink? I think I like some Swiss Miss, no, more like Dismiss. She'll have some Dismiss. So then we go to Vivian's store. Anya by Vivian. I never realized it was called Anya by Vivian. Who's Anya? I don't know. But what if Anya has a store that's called Vivian by Anya? What if it was Anya by Vivian and every time you went in to get a store, Vivian's just like,

I don't know why you're sad. I'm so excited. Everyone's gonna come in and look fabulous. And Vivian's like, well, here's what I like to do for fashion shows. I like to coordinate colors. Oh, what an innovation. That's crazy.

And Daisy goes, I love that. You know, what's good? You know, I love that fact. You know, here's, here's, if I were to ever have a fashion show, I would, not only would I coordinate colors, I think I would actually, I think I would sew new clothes for it, which I think is just kind of like a fun thing to do, you know? Just sort of get out loud. Well, you know, this is a store fashion show. This is like a posh fashion show. They Well, you know, this is a store fashion show. This is like a posh fashion show. They got so shit for that. My mom used to do those in the junior league and we used to have to go see my mom do fashion shows. She still does them. I think she just did one last year for like Dillards and all the ladies in the country club just wear a dress and then they

walk down the aisle and everyone's like, yes. I don't think anybody actually buys the dresses or anything, but you know, that's cute. Yeah, that's fun. So Stacy says, I am so excited about this event and I can't think of a better designer to highlight other than Vivian. I had to have Arabella involved in this invitation.

And then we see Stacy and Arabella did like a little video where Stacy's like, I want to invite you to participate in this year's strut for strays. Don't worry about what you're wearing. Vivian has you covered. We can't wait to see you and do this together. Your line Arabella. You're going to look great, baby.

TJ jumps in. You're going to love the way you look. Okay, TJ, no men's warehouse here. Here's not your invitation. TJ jumps in and he's like, we need eight ounces of blood stat. This is an ER, TJ. Okay. Objection.

This isn't law and order, TJ. He's like, oh, I'm sorry. I thought the event was called Strut for extras, not strut for strays. So then she's like, and then there's Karen. So we get Karen's text and it's like, congratulations. I regret that I cannot attend your stupid fashion show, but do with your comments and your actions at Ashley's last event, we can discuss it later. But at my dear friend's place of business, it's not the appropriate setting to discuss it.

You can count on my supporting your charity. I will be there with Bell's on, but I will not be in your fashion show. So, she says, I regret that I cannot attend your event, but I will be there with bells on. So they cease it. I'm not really sure whether you that means. What does this even mean? The grandom needs rest, honey. And she says, I just want to make sure everybody feels beautiful while we walk with these dogs that are going to shit on your beautiful, beautiful gowns.

So then Wendy and Ashley come and they're talking about how Ashley had a dick the other day and they loved it. And so, she's like, well, do you want to know who your date is for the evening? And then they show them, she shows them pictures of dogs and stuff. And now they start shit talking Mia. And Karen basically, Stacey's like, well, we only have 10 people on the show, but Karen sent a message and said, well, I support your charity. I cannot walk in the event. So I don't think she's participating in the show. And Asher's like, well, clearly something you said really hit a nerve.

And Wendy's like, or something you may have did or didn't do. Cause I think the question that you have to ask yourself is, do you feel like when she needs you, you support her? And Stacy's like, well, that can't be what this argument is about. And then we see a flashback to, um, you know, how Mia was, how Stacy basically was supporting Mia in that moment because she felt like what Karen was saying should have been brought up privately. Oh, yes. And so she's like, surely that can't be it. And Wendy's like, you went to cuddle

Mia. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. So she's like, yeah, well, then I understand why Wendy doesn't, I understand why Karen doesn't want to be a part of it. And she's like, but it's not in my nature to stand there and watch someone be berated. I received that. So, uh, and she's like, I think Maria's a strong term. So then Gisele arrives, she's like, hello. Ah, hello. And Wendy's like, okay, hold on now one second, because you just said something Mia, Mia said some very disparaging comments about Karen and your first thing out of your mouth, Stacy, should have been like, don't say those

things about Karen. Don't say those things about my friend. And she was like, I do stand up for Karen. Like the time I said, there's no way she could be drunk. There's no way she could be drunk driving. There's no way. And they're like, well, but you didn't stand up for her when Mia said it at the event. Dun, dun, dun. So, whatever. And Gisele's like, well, Karen, we just got a text. She said, I'm excited. I'm looking forward to seeing all of you tomorrow at Vivian's store. And Karen's like, what are we doing? Oh, so this is when the text invite went out. So, they were all at lunch. And Gisele's like, yeah, we got a text saying that we're going to be at Vivian's

store. And Karen's like, really? What are we doing at Vivian's store? My friend Vivian. You know, the store called Vivian by Karen. And Gisele's like, well, we're going to select your gown. Nah. And so Gisele's like, yeah, by the way, we know Vivian, we're back in presence because we know Vivian because of Karen, Stacy, implying that Stacy kind of like friend hopped to get to Vivian. Yeah. And she's like, yeah. And we all have a, I know you have a relationship, but Vivian has been introduced to this group through Karen. And if you didn't have the respect

enough to say, you know what, hey, Karen, you know what, I'm going to use Viv Karen. And if you didn't have the respect enough to say, you know what, hey, Karen, you know what, I'm going to use Vivian." And she's like, so I have to tell Karen that I'm going to do a fashion show with Vivian? And she's like, yes. And the fact today that we're at Vivian's store and you didn't say, hey, Karen, just FYI, I'm inviting the girls to her shop. But Stacey's like, well, wasn't that what the message said? And like, no. And so Stacey's like, well, okay, I disagree because Vivian is also my friend and I've known Vivian longer than I've known Karen. So what am I supposed to be saying? May I work with my friend? And she's kind of right on that one.

You know? She's right. Karen's being ridiculous. She doesn't need your permission to do a fashion show with Vivian. Vivian's a friend of on this show. She's a cast member So if Vivian wants to promote her stuff, she's gonna do an event with somebody who wants to promote her staff That's ridiculous And if Karen wants to have a claim on Vivian, maybe she should have worked harder to have Vivian come to Panama instead of Jaclyn So Giselle is like well, you should have said hey Karen just FYI I've been working with Vivian on this blah and then I I would have could have been over like, what's wrong with

that? It's like, it's like, even Wendy is like, Yeah, no, I don't think you need permission. So and now she's saying no, probably would have been good to give like a little bit of a like, a heads up. But Stacey says, Giselle Mia has called has called Karen a drunk, a cheater. K said that she was on a Zempik, and I didn't call her. And to tell her I was having an event with my friend, so she's dropping out seems like a little imbalanced. Well, that's not why, ah? Well, but that's kind of what you just implied, right?

So she's like, oh, it's also because I didn't speak up. And she's like, well, I don't like the fact that you rolled any of this out. And because you didn't say to any of us, would you like to be on the runway holding an animal? You did not do that. What if I am traumatized by animals? That's her new argument. Stacey is like, I don't understand how I'm having like a beautiful event and what I think is a great moment for us to come together and to support a really wonderful organization

for fur babies in DC. Well, I was actually shocked. I didn't think that you were even into charities. Don't don't don't. How dare you? How dare you, ma'am? Insinuating that I'm not into charities. Charities are my hobbies.

They're my life. I go to bed, I don't even masturbate to porn. I think of charities. Charities are my hobbies. They're my life. I go to bed, I don't even masturbate to porn. I think of charities." Even Wendy laughs like, what? Gisele, why would I not be into charities? Listen to my voice. This is charity voice. And Gisele's like, you didn't donate to mine. How could you say I'm not into charities? I date TJ. So Gisele's like, well, you didn't donate to mine because you came late. And she goes, well, you threw me out. That's why I didn't donate. Giselle throws everybody out of her charity and then gets mad when they didn't donate. And by the way, I'm not donating to your charity either because it's not just for brain trauma,

it's for GNA. And how much money of that goes to GNA? Your stupid business that does nothing. And then how much of it does actually go to a charity? You're not getting my money either, lady. You have to do GNA events. Come to my Spanx and Alzheimer's charity. No, that's not how it works. Stacy has not donated a dime. I don't know how you even sleep at night, Stacy. I don't. And Stacy's like, okay, we're just going to pick out dresses. And so she's like, well, I'm not. I'm not going to be in the fashion show either. Only because I'm confused by

it. You don't know whether or not I'm allergic to dogs. You don't know whether or not I have PTSD because the dog bit me. You don't know if I've listened to Who Let the Dogs Out one too many times and now I'm totally triggered by the animal. You don't know if I've ever had trauma at your Wiener Schnitzel. How dare you? And Stacy's like, you don't know how many elevators I've been in where someone has asked going down and I've said, no, going up. Going down.

It's Shasha. So, Stacy's like, but do you have any of those traumas? And she goes, a bit. She's like, so wait, you got bit by a dog? And she goes, yes, when I was little. This is Gisele's best moment of the season, by the way. This shit was hilarious. That's why I was like, this is so funny.

I was like, yes, the show's back. Gisele's like, yeah, dogs are not my thing. And so the producer was like, what was your traumatic experience? She goes, I got bit by a dog, and that may or may not be a lie. Pete and Gisele Laugh And Stacey's like, well, I just assumed we were all like-minded. We are not. Ta! She's like, well, clearly, well, thank you for supporting. You don't have to walk the show. Pete Larkin So, she knows that she's in trouble because she stood up for Mia. And she's like, Karen wants to only be friends with people who blindly follow her no matter

what. And then we see a clip to Karen two months ago saying, who's my real friend? I want to see who real soldiers are for Karen Huga because I certainly don't want any fake bitches around me. So Stacey says, and if that's what Karen is looking for, then maybe I'm not the right friend. And so now we go over to Wendy and Eddie's and Wendy is hanging out in the deck and she's like, it's been a busy day. I've been in meetings all day. Season two of Dr. Wendy's show is coming. day. I've been in meetings all day. Season two of Dr. Wendy's show is coming. Oh, God. And fucking Eddie. Okay, look, I get that we come on this show to get our brands out there and I get that everybody on the show will wear a baseball cap with their brand,

but Eddie is ridiculous. He's wearing a face mask. he's wearing just a bag over his face. It says happy Eddie. He's literally wearing a shirt that's like got Eddie's. What does it say? It's he's using the got milk slogan. Can we just stop? That's so bad. You know you're desperate when you resort to the got milk slogan from 20 years ago.

Come on, man. Yeah. So his big news is by the way, I got big news and, you know, I just got off the phone with the White House and you're going to film an episode of the Dr. Wendy show there. And it's going to be, you know, and so they're like, oh my God, this is amazing. And he's like, yeah, you're going to do your big one when like, when's in, yeah, you know, you want to. So they're going to be, she's going to be interviewing a Corrine Jean-Pierre. So when it's a big get, that's going to be an awkward interview. She's going to be interviewing, uh, Corrine Jean-Pierre. So when it's a big get,

she's going to be like, so when did you become press secretary? When did you become press secretary? Uh, what's it like working in the white house? What is it like working in the white house? You're interviewing a questioner. Good luck. So she's just saying it's such an honor because she's the first black woman to hold the position of the white house press secretary secretary and she's the mouthpiece of the president of the United States. And she says, when I think of black girl magic, I think of her.

And so, Eddie's just like really proud of her and they're excited to go to the White House and everything. So then we cut over to Mia and Stacey having lunch and they're talking about significantly, significantly less lofty things like going to the White House. They're just going to gossip about Karen as they're right. Yeah. So Stacey's like, so what's happening girlfriend? And Mia's like, oh, you know, mania, mania, mania, mania. So, you know, there's good days, there's bad days. Some days Gordon has mania, others he has mania. And so that's basically what's happening.

So what happened this past weekend, you know, I mean, I'm upset with Gordon for sharing our personal family matters with someone who's an acquaintance. I mean, you know, it's just part of his condition. He can't help it. You know, mania, he order a steak, you talk about the paternity of my child, you know, it's just part of his condition. He can't help it. You know, mania, you order a steak, you talk about the paternity of my child, you know how it goes. I don't like when Gordon shares our personal family matters.

I mean, it took me a long time to buy that DVD box set and I don't wanna lose it. So Mia- Well, not to mention that you were the one who said on national TV that that kid isn't Gordon, but you don't like him sharing the real paternity. I'm so sorry, Mia. It must be really difficult for you. The fuck? This lady's fucking crazy. What is wrong with this person? So Mia's like, you know, I know what Gordon's capable of and my friend should try to seek

to understand what I'm dealing with here. The thing is about what I'm fierce with someone is the, I'm like, the thing about it is that I'm furious with someone who I consider my friend and like who, you know, used it to villainize me. And Stacey's like, well, can't Karen just be a supportive friend? She's like, no, she doesn't know him. Well, it's funny that you say that, because when I met with Karen before, I was introduced to this group. Karen specifically told me things about you and how I should avoid you. So look, Stacey may act like a dummy, but we know that that's a character because we saw her original character the first three weeks on this show.

So we know that she's changed her character and now she's going to show you who you're really dealing with. She's like, okay, you want to fuck with me, I'll stick Mia on you and literally everybody else and Wendy. She's like, I'm going to stick Mia and Wendy on you. So she starts with Mia and she's like, she said I should avoid you because you're not Potomac. And she's like, well, is it Potomac to be a drunk driving swinging on bar stools?

Is it Potomac to crash your car into trees and get repeated DUIs? Because I haven't been accused of that. So what exactly is Potomac? Well, that's the warning she gave me and Arabella. She also told me that I shouldn't be friends with Wendy. She said that Wendy is completely self-absorbed and that I should never trust her and she's only out for herself. And Mia's like, oh my God, does Wendy know these things? And then it cuts back to Wendy talking about this White House visit and Wendy saying that she wants to share the moment with her girlfriends. So her first on her list is Karen because it'll be a full circle moment because, you

know, Karen invited Wendy to Surrey County when Karen got the key to the county, etc. Or the city, or I don't know, do counties have keys? Do counties need keys? But either way, she also talks about how Karen's family were slaves who bought the farm back and then prospered as a result of it. And so since the White House was built by slaves, this is like a good callback to that. And it's kind of like, look at what the slaves did actually. And so she's really seeing this like really beautiful moment when we are finding out that Karen has nothing

but bad things to say about Wendy. So then we go back to lunch and Mia is like, does Wendy now? And Mia's like, does Wendy know? And she's like, no. And Wendy stands up for Karen over and over again. And then we see flashbacks of Wendy being team Karen all season, which she has been. And you know, granted, Wendy is just kind of out of allies. When Karen invited Wendy to Surry County, that was kind of a shocker.

But I think they were like, all right, Karen, you need to invite at least three people or people weren't talking to her or something. I don't know. It's kind of an alliance friendship, right? Wendy and Karen, I guess that's what I'm getting at. But I think Wendy is really making an effort and Karen is just still shit talking her behind her back. Yeah.

And so Mia ends it by saying, I will tell you the truth doesn't expire. Okay, Karen Huger, everything that's done in the dark eventually comes out to light. So that is what's going to lead us into the season finale next week. Excited for that. The fun episode, nice return to form.

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