Watch What Crappens - #2716 Crappy Hour 2/03/2025 Gretchen Rossi Returns, Spencer Pratt holds grudge against Andy Cohen, Paige DeSorbo moves on

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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February 3rd, 2025. I'm Ronnie Karam, that's Ben Mandelker over there. Hello, Ben! Hi Ronnie, how's it going? Good, what's going on with you, baby? Not much. Just, you know, just getting back into the swing of things back in LA. Feels good to be back here. What's going on with you? Same. Laundry. Back to the unglamorous life.

Like, fly back and you got to do all the crap that you left behind the first time. I was like, guess I should clean out the fridge now. I know, same. Oh, booooo. There's a lot of sad vegetables that wound up in the bin. But, you know, I'm, yeah, it's just getting back into the, getting back into the swing of things, but I'm excited. Excited to talk some crappy hour with you today. Yeah, me too. And by the way,

you know, we said it on the show earlier today, but for those who didn't hear it, like, thanks again to everyone who showed up at our show on Saturday, whether they were, and honestly, also in San Diego and San Francisco, but whether you were an audience member or a guest or anything else, really, thank you so much. We had so much fun putting on that show. It was so much work and you guys made it all worth it. Really it was the best one we've ever done.

It was kind of like a thrill of a lifetime for me with no exaggeration. That was a really fun time. The audience was lit and then going out after and meeting so many of you was so nice. Everybody's so sweet. Everyone's so nice to each other. There were all these people who came alone

and then by the end they had the whole tribe. You had Richie D. Caduce over there. He made an amazing party. Both pre-show and after show. And Ross too. Let me just… and who? Ross also was… Ross in the crappens reddit was also very active in creating that party, I think. Yes. Thank you guys. It was so good. I have to hand it to Richie D. That guy can party

his face off. I mean, they started at six and he was still there at like 1130 when we finally got there and Standing still standing barely but still standing cutest red suit. They had a whole drink menu I mean the whole thing was great, you know, yeah, love you guys. It was fabulous And by the way, I don't want to take credit away from Richie if he was the one who organized it. I just saw Ross had done a big giant post on Reddit with lots of information. So at the very least, thank you, Ross, for helping organize

and let people know where to go, et cetera. We only put in 30 minutes because we had to fly out the next day, but it was a really, really, really great night. That was, it was a big deal for me personally. So I just thanks everyone. Well, so some big news went down in the Bravo sphere well, since the last crappy hour. The biggest and the most shocking honestly

is they're bringing back Gretchen. So here's my question. Gretchen is coming back to OC. Did Andy just stop having a say? Did they just fire Andy and didn't tell anybody? Because I can't imagine him being okay with it. I can't imagine Andy being like, you know what's a good idea?

Let's bring back Gretchen. What do you think? I know. It's not that Gretchen was like so bad. Gretchen sucks. But like in the beginning, much like they're been way worse people. But the producers themselves acknowledged

that after like Tamra kind of destroyed Gretchen after her first season, Gretchen became more and more closed off. And I do remember that when they had that like behind the scenes of like season eight or nine of Orange County, like for a moment, Brava was doing this thing where they took us inside like Real Housewives. And so they did one of like her final season, which Lydia was on also. And the producers said on that special that after Tamra like raked Gretchen over the coals with about that phone call, whatever, after Gretchen's first season, Gretchen really put up a lot of walls and she became less and less authentic to who she was to the point that eventually they just, they had to get rid of her because she just wasn't giving them what they want. So I was surprised, given that background, they brought Gretchen back into the mix. It's like, what is Gretchen offering?

And like, do we really need Slade Smiley? Jesus. I honestly feel like it's some play that the political climate has changed in this country and Gretchen Rossi kind of feels like she matches the current political climate. So I think Bravo's kind of like, let's match that. That's the only thing I can really, really like. I'm sorry to disagree with you so early on, but this whole, poor Gretchen, she was bullied by Tamra, so she put walls up.

No, I can't, I can't with that. She was bullied by Tamra, but everybody's bullied by Tamra. They still survive. And the walls up weren't the problem. The Slade was the problem. The Slade of it all was the problem. She got with Slade and then became like everything was a fake, you know, like a helicopter landing on a roof and writing the song. And this, I mean, all of that got to be really with the shots. He started calling it shots, clearly. Like he, cause Slade is like very intentional about his image and that's why he's always been unpleasant

to watch because you never feel like it's authentic. He's just annoying. And I think that he did start to really, I think he did start to really, really impact how she, like how she presented herself. I think it was a combination. I think that she was so burned by Tamra. And then this guy came into her life and was like,

this is actually how you gotta go forward with the show. And then she just sort of, you know. She became really- She just bought into it. Influency and weird is the only way. And that was before influencing was like a thing, right? All I know, yes. And all I know is that like these days,

just Gretchen, the way she just like airbrushes the fuck out of her face, you know, like I'm all for airbrushing your face, do some touch ups, add some filters, but it is literally like, it's like looking through frosted glass with eyeballs. It's strange. You know, she gets a lot of crap for airbrushing her child, you know, she's one of those who like, tries to take wrinkles off of a two year old

or whatever that baby is, however old that child is. But she, I'm sorry, I got confused. I was, I'm reading comments at the same time, so I'm sorry. But she started getting into a lot of trouble for airbrushing the child. Let me just say, you know, I know that people find that disgusting.

Like, how could you give a child these horrible feelings about themselves? And then I wish we had that in the eighties cause I could have used it. I mean, the shit, the pictures my mother posts now or has now around her house are just hideous. I could have used some airbrushing. I mean, she would have had me looking

like a little stick figure. I never would have been in the Dillard's Husky fashion show. I would have been in the Dillard's thin fashion fashion show. I would have been in the Dillard's Thin fashion show. It's like, we'll fix it in post. We'll fix the angle in post. All right, let's bring in the chubby kid. We'll make him look like a stick figure up later.

So Gretchen, so she is back in the mix for a reason. Yeah, I saw, I told you this already, but I saw a post of hers and she was driving and her kid was in the back in her little car seat. And she's cute. She's like a little, I don't want to say JonBenet because that's like such a tragic story, but like one of those toddlers and Tierra kids, you know, like really made up, like in my mind, like full face of makeup. I'm sure she didn't have a full face and makeup, crazy, crazy hairsprayed hair and all this sitting in the car seat. And Gretchen's like, um, what is, what are we living for today, honey? And her kid's like, Jesus. And she goes, Jesus. And she hashtagged it like hashtag Jesus, hashtag living for Jesus.

What's just like, wow, I think Jesus just thank you for all the followers. You know what I mean? Because he doesn't have enough. Jesus is like, I'm already the number one person on Instagram. I've been beating Selena Gomez for years and now I need Gretchen. Thanks Gretchen, thirsty. I would just like to thank Jesus took that moment to thank Gretchen for being a thirsty ass. He probably did. I think it's important to note, by the way, that Gretchen is only going to be a friend

of, which I think is really like that's an important distinction. And it's also helpful because like if she were not friend of that would be like a full like a full Gretchen, you know, housewife moment would be hard. But as a friend of it means that hopefully that slayed will be minimized. And she'll just pop in and group dinners, which which may be fine. I think it's just that if she has to bear the weight of being a housewife where we have to see the scenes of her at home, you know, doing, you know, yoga with Slade or pretending to do who knows what, like that, that would be tough.

Yeah, and people are saying friend of who? Friend of Katie Janela. First of all, Katie is one of the first, and by the way, you know, Katie could have gone either way for me her first season. I thought she was pretty chill. I thought the whole trying to get Heather over the paparazzi was kind of stupid

because it was last season anyway, and everybody who watched last season already knew that stuff about Heather. But, you know, you want to like Katie because she did have guts to stand up to, you know, to come for Heather, which I think shows some stones, you know, but this article that we've been reading, this US Weekly article is Katie Janell,

where Gretchen Rossi stands with the RHOC cast before her return. Everybody was kissing her butt on Instagram. Heather was like, welcome back at Gretchen Rossi. Swipe for some fun memories and some bad hair and some sitcom. She's posting like Revo pictures. But basically everyone's saying where they stand. And Katie Janela says, when you join the cast, you hear about ex-cast members, but I just want to give what I get.

And I met Gretchen, she's lovely. We became really good friends. And Jen and I hang out with her all the time. Please don't let this be my Jen and Katie counseling season because Katie I don't care that much about, but I don't want to have to like get rid of Jen in my mind. Well, I mean you have to imagine that Jen was hanging out with Gretchen because I mean it just seems to just make sense. Katie is a little surprising though. I would never, I don't know, I don't know Katie very well. I just don't see her enjoying Gretchen. I would see her being just like annoyed by her. But you know, Katie also grew up in Georgia, where there are a lot of like women, big blonde hair, not as much as Texas. And

so maybe like it's somehow like a nostalgia play for her. And even though like definitely Gretchen is not a Georgian. She definitely is not like doesn't doesn't play like that. I'm just saying that like maybe there's something there that like that Katie may connect with in some strange way. Yeah. Well, Tamara wrote on her Instagram when she found out about Gretchen's return. I guess it's time to dust off those friendship bracelets. My best is back. Wink, orange. Hashtag, well, has rise, foxy. Hashtag, I was baptized, bitch. And then Shannon Baddour, she posted a photo together. And in 2021, it says, Gretchen expressed her support for Shannon after she had a falling out with Tamra.

For goodness sakes, her best friend Shannon and her are no longer friends, Gretchen shared with us in 2021. After a while, you start to look at the common denominator and you start to go, however, okay, well, who's the problem here? So obviously Gretchen still has beef with Tamra. So that's always fun. Yeah. That'll be fun to watch those two go with Tamara. So that's always fun. Yeah, that'll be fun to watch those two go on it.

So that was the first thing. What else happened? What we were away? What we've been away? Well, another thing that happened was Spencer, Spencer Pratt and Andy Cohen are sort of in like a low, a low wattage feud at the moment. Spencer, I'm pulling up the actual article,

but there was some press build because people were telling Heidi, if I remember correctly, people were telling Heidi, you should go and watch Happens Live. And then Spencer's like, why would we go and watch Happens Live when Andy Cohen called Heidi trash? Something along those lines.

Okay, the specific tweet is, oh yeah, the person who said he would rather scratch his eyes out than watch my wife. Hard pass. Hello? Who hasn't said that? Okay, listen, if you were alive in the year 2006 or 2007, we all said that about Heidi, so just relax. Yeah, calm down over there. Um,

he was encouraging people to stream his wife's music and it took off on Tik Tok with celebrities like Julia Fox and Emily something posting videos to the audio and they've soared in popular popularity, but Pratt is not too happy with Cohen. Pratt was quick to say no in response to a user on X. The person who said he would rather scratch his eyes out than watch my wife, hard pass, Pratt wrote. Another X user then wrote back to Pratt,

urging him to give Cohen a second chance. It was Lisa Vanderpump. She's like, please give Andy a second chance. And he's like, LOL, yeah, so lucky the guy that bashes my wife going to be so lucky to sit with him, rather sit in my burned house rubble, he shared. So some of the history of this is that in 2023, Heidi went on the record saying Andy's preconceived notions have held back her potential as a housewife. Heidi reminded her audience that Andy made a statement a while ago that he would never want me as a real housewife.

Also, Andy said Heidi wasn't for the franchise. Well, Heidi, you just have to deal with that, okay? Cause you're not, you're not a real housewife. You're not real housewife worthy. Just cause you're kids and you're a housewife doesn't mean you're real housewife worthy, okay? We already have Emily and Gina. We don't need Heidi to be in the next one. I was going to say if Emily and Gina are housewife worthy, why not Heidi Montag?

I mean, maybe not Beverly Hills, but she's definitely OC worthy. I say, I say bring Heidi Montag on. I want to see what she's doing. I haven't seen her in ages. If Heidi were smart, she would have like moved to Manhattan and tried to get onto summer house. Like maybe she would have had something there. Although again, she has kids. So I don't really know. Southern, you know, Southern charm may have been a play for her,

but like she's not going to be able to hang with, uh, on Beverly Hills. Like she's just not Beverly Hills quality. Um, and sudden, destroy her. Oh, see. Yeah. I mean, she definitely has OC qualities. She's also still too young. Heidi, she's not too young. She's a little younger than us. I know, but let's see. Heidi Montag.

But she reads, so, okay, so Heidi Montag. Oh God, I'm about to blow up once more. I could be a seasoned Real Housewife. What do you think of that? Okay, how about this? Does anyone want to just deal with something I'm about to say? Is everyone ready to just deal with something I'm about to say? Is everyone ready to process this? Because I'm about to say something.

I don't know. I need a hint. You can't just say something. I need to know a hint of the trigger. Everyone. Okay, we're all going to virtually hold our hands. Okay, everyone in the chat, everyone, let's hold hands. Heidi Montag is older than Erin Leachie. That's just so wild to me. That is crazy. How is Heidi Montag older than Erin from Real Housewives of New York? How old is she? Heidi is 38.

And we knew that she was in late 30s, but it's just weird that Erin is 37. I mean, there's so many people that are older than Erin, like Sheena, Dodie, but just Erin, her entire vibe is significantly older and all of them, their vibe is significantly younger. It just is a strange world. Yeah. Well, I brought up another article that supposedly Andy dredges up another article or another fight about it, but I don't see any going.

He just says, by the way, there were things that we said and did on TV 14 years ago that we wouldn't do now. It was just a different universe, but you, but I'm not trying to justify it, because he had apologized, and he apologized, I guess. So I'd be like- I wonder what it was, things that happened 14 years ago. That's when he called her trash. So, Spencer's mad about something from 14 years ago.

No, that's why you need to go on The Real Housewives. You'll have so many new things to be upset about. Bing on Bravo, that'll give you a whole new slew of shit to be mad about. Come on back, baby. It's also really hard to jump from like the Viacom ecosystem to the Comcast ecosystem. And like at the heart of it, Spencer and Heidi,

they're MTV kids, you know? You just can't go from MTV to Bravo. It's just, it's a different world. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this because OC needs her. That's there. I said it. And their house burned down, which is completely tragic, but sometimes life works in mysterious ways. Maybe they can move to Orange County now, you know, they're looking, so they move there and be on OCI. I'm for it. I think Heidi would be great.

And I love that whole season where everyone kind of turned on Heidi and then Heidi didn't stand for it. And then Spencer told everybody off. I mean, I think that they're perfect housewives people. Spencer would be one of the housewives. I so here's my thing. The Hills was such a low key show where, I mean, like the biggest spat that ever happened on the Hills was like, you know, I know what you did. I know what you are. You know what you did. Or like, I want to forgive you and I want to forget you.

You know, and that I remember at the time was like, Oh my God. Or like Heidi did not hang out with with LC. And like, I can't believe Heidi did that. Like it's like, Oh my God. Because the show is so subtle that anytime there was any sort of like any sort of like ripple or whatever it felt you just felt it but like that vibe I don't know if it's gonna work as well I don't know if Heidi I don't know if Heidi is up to snuff for even OC although it would be fun to see Shad and Madore getting annoyed by Heidi and it would be great to see Heather Dubrow take Heidi down a peg or two. So you know, you may be onto something. I don't see Heidi taking down Heather Dubrow.

Like I don't see her down a peg or two. I don't say take her down. I said down a peg or two. I don't even think she can. I don't even know how that could happen. I mean, sure. And now at this point, I'm curious. So like maybe it'll be interesting to see how that works. But I don't know. I don't even know how that could happen. I mean, sure. Now at this point I'm curious, so maybe it'll be interesting to see how that works,

but I don't know. I don't know. Okay, so we'll agree to just miss them in our own ways. How about that? Because she's not cast anyway. So who cares? She's not like it's even a real thing. We're talking about a comment from 14 years ago

for half an hour because we're us, but it's not even a real thing that happened. You know, it's just Spencer made some dumb tweet about it. So who even cares for now? For now, but let's put it out into the universe and hope that the conversation has even started because those kids deserve a chance. That's what I say with something somewhere. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappins commercial. Welcome to the Offensive Line. You guys, on this podcast, we're gonna make some picks,

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but it was kind of a tricky move on her part. And she's mad, and now it looks like on the reunion, people are going to be claiming that she had someone else in her car driving like a boyfriend or something. And she'd said, I think in the video, like, Ray, it wasn't me. It was the security you hired for me. So she's kind of blaming Ray.

But I guess she's saying that they hit a tree, and then somebody ran away from the tree. And they're like, was she fucking the guy? He ran away from the tree. We'll have to wait for the reunion to hear all of these accusations. But it'll be interesting if she brings any of this stuff up in court because that's crazy.

Yeah, if there happened to be another person who fled, it's like a, that's wild. That's like a, that's like bonfire with the vanities right there. You know, you're with your side piece, and the side piece causes an accident, but you don't want to unravel the marriage, so you just, you take the hit to protect your infidelity. I love it.

Well, now that you think that, by the way, Melanie Griffith, Real Housewives, bring it. Oh, now that, I support that. I think Melanie Griffith on, um, on Beverly Hills would be wonderful. And Don Johnson just trying to hide from the cameras all the time. And God knows what he'll be caught doing. You know, Dakota Johnson showing up and being boring. Yeah. I think that, she's so pretty.

She is really pretty. And she did take down Ellen DeGeneres, which who would have thought that it was gonna be Dakota Johnson to land the death blow. Yeah She's a game for Ellen DeGeneres. So don't count her out. Yeah, I don't know. Why am I so mean to Dakota Johnson? I like you to Dakota Johnson. I take it all back. You've done great work No, don't take it back. It doesn't count. You have to keep it. Stick to your guns. Dakota, you're boring. Come for Dakota. You're boring. I love it.

Dakota, you're boring, and you're not real housewives worthy, however your mother is, so tell her to do it. I like that. That's Dakota's dream. I think Dakota's doing kind of bigger things, I guess. So she doesn't care. I stand for Dakota as Dakota's new friend. Dakota is my new friend. As Dakota. Apologize. The I stand for Dakota as Dakota's new friend. Dakota, that's my question.

As a Dakota apologist. Ben Mathelker hates Dakota. Dakota Stan. And he also hates Dakota Fanning. Just spread it everybody. Well, I'm gonna talk about someone who should not be in The Real Housewives. I wanna say though, going back to the Heidi thing,

I had mentioned it, I wasn't gonna go back to it, but now that we're back on this topic, Heidi Montag I think would be actually very good on Salt Lake City. She is originally from Denver or from Colorado, so she's already from that time zone. And I think that she and Whitney, that seems like, I can imagine it.

I see her in that mix. Yeah. Okay, I will not do that because I don't wanna destroy that cast. I think that cast is perfect as it is. So I'm not going to, I'm not going to wish anybody on or off of that cast. Bring them all back. By the way, forever someone has someone has said something, um, slanderous in the comments,

which says Ben hates all Dakotas, including North and South. I don't hate, I do not hate North and South Dakota. I actually would love to go there. I saw North Dakota. Could you imagine like, I hate North and South Dakota. I actually would love to go there. I saw no bad guys. I hate North Dakota. Could you imagine? Like, I hate North and South Dakota, guys. I would love to go to either of the Dakotas. Okay, let's go. Let's do it. Show, yeah.

You only listen one life. You only have one life. It's never too late to go to North Dakota. My great aunt, Georgette, was from North Dakota. And I always said, I wanna go visit where you're from. You know, it's just something you say while you're playing, you know, Buster with your Lebanese aunties. And she was like, no, you don't, honey. She's like, honey, no, you don't want to go there. It's too cold for you. So that's why I've never gone.

Well, I would be happy to see Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore is in South Dakota, though, right? It's not in North. Girl, I don't know. I talk about Bravo I talking about no mounts Amanda in the comments Amanda Amanda in the comments has a very strong position. She says merge the Dakotas with the next summation point Finally a political message we can all get behind bring them all together. That way it's much easier to hit the 50 states Yeah, and and thees, like Dakota Fanning Johnson.

Oh, the Dakotas. Start putting them all in the same thing. They've probably both got Tom Cruise trauma stories. I mean, just put them all together. A Franken-Dakota. A Franken-Dakota. I love it. Okay, so let's see.

What else is happening over here? I'm going back to the lesbians. The lesbian comment about Kyle Rich's, John, John, John. This, you know, going through all the links, cause I basically to gather links, I go to the Real Housewives discussion Reddit and I just steal links from them because they're so good at compiling them all

over the two weeks. And there were so many articles about Kyle, Kyle lesbian rumors, Kyle lesbian rumors, Kyle lesb... And you know it's Kyle spreading all of this to all of the blogs. Kyle, who's so sick of being talked about as being a lesbian. One article I found kind of interesting

was that the cast supposedly, and this just comes from a source, just a source guys, who knows who it is? Probably Kim, it's probably Kim. But the source is that the cast doesn't even believe that Kyle's a lesbian anyway. They think that she's just using it for attention, which I think is what a lot of the audience believes too,

but it's nice to hear the cast jumping on that too. What do you think? Do you think her whole thing with Morgan is fake? I am going to say, I think that she enjoyed the titillation of it all and I think she enjoyed the attention. No, I do think that she like a girl crush on Morgan. And I thought, I think it was like cool to her that there was like this cool lesbian that was like into her and everything, whether or not Kyle is a lesbian.

I'm not, I'm not sure. I mean, you know, when at the, at the first episode of the season, when she had that like leather and denim party or whatever, I mean, it was definitely giving like some lesbian vibes. But now I don't know. I can also see Kyle just being like really into the fact that she's like, this is so cool. I've got like someone young who's like into me who thinks I look cool. So who knows?

Well, this is coming up today because TMZ caught Garcelle at the airport because Garcelle had her first granddaughter. So congratulations, Garcelle. So she was traveling around, I guess, visiting or whatever. And they caught her at the airport and they said, Garcelle, Garcelle, Garcelle, do you apologize to Kyle for saying that she should just be happy being a lesbian if she's a lesbian?

And Garcelle gave a very definite no as her answer. She said, no, I was just saying, you know, if that's what she wants to do, not saying she is or she isn't just if that's what she wants. I was trying to be supportive. Oh, and I won't say I'm sorry because Kyle still hasn't apologized for calling me an asshole on the after show. So there you go. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there we go. So the ongoing, the simmering tensions

between Garcel and Kyle continue on, et cetera. Countess Luan story. Here we go. I'm pulling it up with Tilda Swinton. So. I just wanted to give you something because I know you're Countess Luan. You love your Countess.

I really do. Through that little bone in the links today. And I did see this in passing over the last week. I was like, what? Tilda Swinton? Countess Luan? The headline says it all. Countess Luan. Tilda Swinton told me, darling, I love what you do. I guarantee Tilda Swinton had no idea who Countess Luan was. She was just like, oh, wow, it's a lady in a bejeweled conductor's hat. Sure. I love this.

She was a waiter at the Cabaret restaurant. She was like, I love, love the drink that you brought me, darling. It was just Fraser from below deck. She's like, wow, Tilda Swinton not only said she loved what I do, she asked me if I wanted a cocktail. How kind of her. What's the difference with the Countess Cabaret compared to your last UK shows? She says I've changed it with the Countess

Cabaret. It's all new. I'll be performing all of my hit songs that my fans love. I'll be covering David Bowie this time around pink. Pink. Man, this woman has heels of steel. I swear to God. Lou Ann's just gonna have to angle from the roof, the ceiling of every venue now. Whoa! I'll be covering a little Pavrati, a little, you know, Sarah Vaughn.

I'm speaking of the best singers in the world. Is it? It's Pavrati, right? God damn it. That's another thing. I was just talking today about Housewives mess up my vocabulary by using the wrong words, and then I think they're real words forever. And Parvati Parvati is one of them traders. So now I keep thinking Pavarotti is Parvati.

Stop it. The ghost of Pavarotti is in the turret. Stop this. The ghost of Poverati is in the turret. So Luanne says that Swinton approached her after a London performance and said, darling, I love what you do. You spread so much joy. And then she extended an invitation to her Scottish estate.

Yeah. I did go. It was wonderful. She went to Tilda Swinton's Scottish estate? What was that like? This did not happen. Luanne is on drugs. This is crazy. No way. This is a hallucination. I'm telling you right now. You think you think she's lying about Tilda?

No, it's just it's so wild. My brain just won't accept it. That's still just when it went to... Countess Luan showed then said, come to my estate. And then Luan went to the estate. I need to see a photo. Photos or it never happened. Yeah. Your show seemed to attract quite a diverse audience, Luan. Well, you know, there's women in sparkly outfits,

older women in sparkly outfits, younger women in sparkly outfits, gays in sparkly outfits. It really is sparkly outfits, younger women in sparkly outfits, gays in sparkly outfits. It really is a United Colors of Benetton ad in there. Lots of ladies in sparkly outfits. You know, you lived in Europe before. Does that make these tours feel special? Oh yes, well, I miss Europe.

You know, I lived in Switzerland and France for over a decade and the UK. I'm looking forward to fish and chips and all those other crazy things they eat out there. And in Ireland, to Guinness and whatever they pour that dark thing into the glass, what is it called? Whatever. And I have friends in the UK, William and Kate and all of them. So I'm looking forward to seeing them. I love people. I love that they love to party. And I love that they love the housewives.

And most of all, I love, well, I just love all British men. What can I say? I plan to fuck around a lot in London. They're like, wow, why does your music connect so well with audience? Well, you know, I was on the front lines there when I realized that basically people are hard of hearing.

It's very difficult when you feel so alone and you're hard of hearing. But to find so many people with no tone really touches me, Andy. Thank you very much. This isn't Andy. this is Attitude Magazine. Whatever, Andy Magazine. Thank you. Thank you all for coming to this interview. Thank you so much.

Great. And for those who want to see me doing a duet with Mr. Bean, I will be at Glasgow, Manchester, Belfast, Dublin, Bristol, and just all sorts of British places. If there's a sheep, I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. That was Michael Jackson, everybody, for those of you.

So the next story, this one is probably, probably not cool to talk about, but I have to talk about it because I'm really curious. And it's Brandy Glanville undergoes four biopsies by Terry Dubrow to figure out the cause of her facial disfigurement. And of course, you know, she's doing it on camera because it's botched.

And she said that Dubrow removed small samples of tissue from her face to determine the cause of her health issues. And so she got four biopsies from her face and necks, and they don't know. They don't know yet what it is, but I'll be telling you this, that's gonna be the highest rated episode of Botched I've ever watched because there'll be plus one people watching it.

Me, me, I wanna know what it is. Are they worms? What are they? She said they're moving around her face. Do you think she's just tripping? I don't know, it's crazy. Cause I do remember when Terry DeBrow, remember we talked about this a few months ago

that he like stepped outside. He was like, Oh, hello TMZ wasn't expecting you there. Well, I am ready with any questions that I may have already prepared for because I knew you'd be here. What's the story? What do you need to know? And he was like, she is a time bomb. She needs to be taken care of stat.

So it's good that he's finally taken care of it. But now they got to get to the bottom of it. It's scary. I mean, like the idea that something is crawling around in her face is so disturbing and I don't know how they're also not able to destroy it already. Can't they just like shoot it with like poison and just shoot it. Just shoot it. Just shoot that. A very, very good aim. Just slap it out of there. Glanville spent over $70,000 trying to find a resolution with some doctors suggesting

she had a parasite that jumps around her face, while others believed it was stress-induced angioedema. If there were worms jumping around your face, don't you think a doctor would be able to say? I mean, do they run that fast? Are they like running under the skin? Catch the worms. How is this so confusing?

I don't understand. I think it's filler. And wasn't this, it was that she had gone out and gotten like drinks with someone. Where did this all start again? What was the back, do you remember what that backstory was? Like she went out with Phaedra maybe? Well, she was on the set.

She's saying, of course, because she wants to blame Bravo for everything, because she was still trying to sue them at that time. So she was like, you know, you try to do something. And then not only is my life ruined, this also happened, suggesting that she got this in Thailand when she was doing the Real Housewives Girl Trip in Thailand. And it was maybe something she ate. And so Bravo probably poisoned her and gave her worms in her face.

And then the other housewives were like, well, we just have regular filler, so I'm not sure what she's talking about. We all ate the same chicken. So I think that was out. I think that one's out. Gosh, it is such a strange and creepy story. I do want it resolved for her sake,

because it must be incredibly unsettling to know that there's something in your face that is just crawling, burrowing around and like actively botching you. But it's the- Botch, the active version. We're chasing- Worm addition. Chasing worms.

Okay, yeah, that's depressing. Good luck though to Brandy. Nobody deserves whatever the fuck's going on over there. Okay, so now, one of the biggest pieces of goss that's been going around the past week or so started after the last reunion for Real Housewives of New York City, which was quite explosive. Lots of pajamas, lots of sequinsed, sequined bathrobes

or whatever the hell was going on on that one. But, um, Bravo Bad Girl on Twitter posted, I think it was on Twitter, I don't know, I'm assuming. But here's what it says, blind item, talk is getting louder that one of the New York Housewives is harboring a huge secret that contradicts everything she's ever told us. And if this comes out, it will be the most

explosive housewife scandals ever. And trust, she doesn't need any more pad publicity these days. Now, that's a blind item. Who knows? You know, blind items can be a lot of different things. They can be a lot of different people. But people are of course zeroing right in on Brynn and just making

insane guesses. What do you think? Well, it's got to be about Brynn because no one else has bad press because like the press doesn't generally care about the people on this show. But like Brynn has bad press, really, really bad press. If this comes out, it will be the most explosive Housewife scandal ever. I don't know. I can't imagine anything that explosive from Brynn. If the news is that, okay, Brynn was a sugar mama or something like that, I don't know. That's not that explosive. Not sugar mama, but sugar baby. Yeah, I don't know what could be explosive. It's hard for me to think of the term explosive with new Rony, But I think it would definitely have to do it based on what how they set it up.

I have to assume Bravo bad girl is talking about Brynn. You know, it's especially hard because it's Real Housewives of New York. And when you say explosive, you know, we try not to compare to the old cast, but they had that whole explosive diarrhea story on the Cartagena boat. You remember that was like, oh, like real part of the plot. So you can't say real housewives of New York and explosive and get me to care because I've already been so disgusted by that last episode. So I don't really know what it could be about with Brynn that would shock me,

but the guesses are crazy. And just reading them all, I've been obsessively reading these threads, you know, I'm like, oh my God. And people, let me just say people have a very low opinion of Brin for the most part with some of these guesses. I'm like, damn. But someone posted today, do you think this is it? Because there was an article in Interview Magazine, and it's about the Armory's Young

Collectors Night in New York City, Thursday, 822 p.m., January 30th, 2025, Uptown. It's safe to say there were as many characters as unique wares on display last Thursday night at the Park Avenue Armory. Art lovers and some stragglers looking for an open bar ventured Uptown for the winter show's Young Collectors Night to comb through the collections and to people watch. Bryn Whitfield of The Real Housewives of New York

entered on the arm of a silver fox. And that was it. People were like, do you think this is it? Do you think she's really dating an old person? That's the scandal that will explode, break the internet. Bryn Whitfield dating an older man. I mean, people on Reddit, what I'm seeing here on the link is like, most people are guessing that like she lied about her, her childhood, which would be wild. I think honestly, she's like really married. I saw that one a lot.

Like she's really married and like has family or something that would, that would be crazy. Yeah. I thought like the worst, like the worst, it could get, if she lies about her childhood, that could be like, there's no coming back from that, I think. But I don't think, I don't know. I believe her about her childhood. I don't think that's a lie.

But here's why you shouldn't lie, because the thing is that now you have people like us on the internet who now question anything you say. So like, she sounds like she had a really traumatic and terrible childhood. And she does have a brother to sort of back up you say. So like she sounds like she had a really traumatic and terrible childhood. And she does have a brother to sort of back up those stories. So there's that, but you know. Unless she's married to her brother

and he's not her brother at all. I mean, that's how the, that's how the guesses start making me crazy. And that's why I'm not even gonna read any of the guesses because I don't know. Then that puts us in a position of being like, well, would she do this or wouldn't she do this? It's just pretty crazy that she's gotten herself

into such a tiny box that people are even questioning her to this degree. And man, people hate her. And you know, the other thing I question is this Armory show, because if that's the opening celebrity for your article, that sounds like a sad show. They're like, wow, the glamorous Winter Armory collection.

Enter Brynn Whitfield. I know. Huh? I know. The other... Were neither of the Dakotas available? Yeah. Another big piece of news that people have been talking about,

and they keep on talking and talking about it, is whether or not Paige De Sorbo and Joe D'Amelio are really dating, because that was the guy that she went to and saw the football game with. And when we did Watcher Happens Live last week, Austin said on the show that they definitely, definitely are dating. And then we heard from an old queen at the bar that they are also definitely dating with like,

like very, they said they had very, very strong evidence to it. But the question is, do we really believe any of this? Is this just people who just want this to happen? I mean, I think it's, I mean, I think they're dating because she just went on vacation with him. Page, this is, let me see, who is this reality blurb? Report, Page DeSorbro and Joe D'Amelio are getting serious and vacationing in Miami as Craig Conover unfollows Summerhouse X after split. So Craig is unfollowed.

I mean, I don't see the problem with her dating, even if she is dating, you know? And we'd see this already on the Summerhouse thing, but I wish you got to talk behind the bar because they're whole like, oh, you know, poor, poor Craig and Paige was so mean to Craig. No, she wasn't. You're allowed to break up with somebody

and then date somebody else. Austin, I think, was Austin suggesting there was overlap on the show? I think he was. I think he suggested it. He didn't outright say it. Yeah, well, you know, Austin suggested anything like that, but.

There is an item about it on reality blurb. The headline says Paige Disorbo claps back at Austin Crowell for saying her romance with Joe D'Amelio is not a rumor on Watch Happens Live. See Summer House's stars post. So Paige was not happy with what with all that. And Paige said, ah, yes, a man I haven't spoken to in six months knows exactly what I'm doing. And then she added. but ah yes, a man I haven't spoken to in six months knows exactly what I'm doing.

And then she added, ugh. But I'd like to add, not a denial is the thing. And I think that that's what's making people go cuckoo because they're like, didn't deny it, didn't deny it, Bane. Frankly, I don't care. I don't care if she's fucking some guy. If they're broken up.

She broke up with Craig and she's with some new guy now. I don't know, she don't care if she's fucking some guy. If they're broken up. You don't care for her. She broke up with Craig and she's with some new guy now. I don't know. She wasn't married to the guy. But I don't know. You know, I've already said kind of team page on that just because Craig seems like a total asshole to me. And I'm not gonna forget that winter house throwing his money everywhere saying,

he's too rich to clean now. You're never too rich to clean, sir. You are never too rich to clean. Yeah. Never, never too rich. Yeah. I mean, oh, sorry. Yeah, go on. Another page article that came out is page to Sorbo is freezing her eggs as a security as security following split from Craig Conover, which is also, you know, making Craig crazy. Cause she laughed at him when he wanted to freeze his sperm. You know, sometimes we see this like, you know, making Craig crazy because she laughed at him when he wanted to freeze his sperm. You know, sometimes we see this, like, you know, I've, I've definitely known a few people in my life and I've seen it happen on,

I feel like some of these shows, maybe I'm wrong where people are like, yeah, I don't like, I'm not interested in having a kid. I don't even want to freeze my, my, my eggs or anything. I don't want it. And then they get out of this like long-term relationship and then the next relationship, they boom, like get pregnant right away. So like sometimes, you know, like I don't like, I think that for sure, when people say they don't want to have a kid, I believe them that they don't want to have a kid. But also I think that sometimes, if you, if you don't see yourself truly with someone, you're also probably not very motivated to have

a kid with them. I feel like I mean, yes, I know it's generalization because people do unfortunately have kids with people that they don't like whatsoever. But I'm just saying that sometimes there's more to it than just like, I don't want to have kids. And so I forget what I was, where I was even going with us. The point is, you know, yes, it might make Craig crazy that page is, um, it Paige is preparing for kids, but like maybe that's because, maybe she's doing this because ultimately she just knew in the back of her head, like Craig is just not someone I ever wanna have kids with.

Yeah, and I don't know, I don't really want Craig's sperm or frozen sperm, I feel like that would hurt Craig. You don't wanna freeze Craig's brain in time, like it still needs some maturing, you know what I mean? But then there's the whole thought of like, who's sperm do you get? Because like, do you go for looks or brains? You know what I mean?

Because we were talking to a friend of ours the other day and they are going through the process right now, the IVF process, and they have frozen embryos and now they're picking sperm. And so I guess in a sperm bank, you actually go through the books. And our friend was like, oh yeah, I was looking for hot people because they're so ugly. She was

like, Ronnie, sperm donors are ugly. And I was like, is that true? She goes, yeah, they're really homely. Like, I don't know what it is about dudes who donate sperm, but they're really homely. And so she said a hot guy came on the market and she'd been like obsessively looking like when you're looking for like you when you were looking for your Kia or me when I was looking for Bueller, you know, you're waiting for the perfect thing. And she was like, and finally a hot guy came up, it was the first hot guy in month. And so I bought all the vials that were left and they were already selling out of his vials. It's like, wow, does he have that on his LinkedIn or his like,

Instagram bio? Like my sperm sold out in record time, bitch. And she ended up like doing a reverse look up on this guy and finding out everything about him. And I was like, well, why does that matter? Because all you care is that she's hot. Because well, I mean, you also like to possibly know if they're intelligent, you know, and I just loved that she was placing the hotness so far above the intelligence factor. And I was like, I wonder how do how people do fit? so far above the intelligence factor. And I was like, I wonder how people do fit, you know? Yeah, I mean, cause it's fun to, cause you, I think that on some level people feel like, okay, well I can always, if I'm like a really good parent, I could like teach my kid to be smart. I can educate them, but like hotness is hotness.

So I feel like on some level, there's like a sense that like hotness is so, feels so entwined with genetics. Like let me just let's see what I can do. I think I can do the nourish part. You can educate a hot person but you can't like you know make an ugly person hotter I guess. Right. So I think that's probably the thinking but you know sometimes with a hot person, you really, the education, you can educate as much as you want, but some people are just hot and only hot. Well, some people in the comments are asking who I'm talking about because we had a weekend in New York.

I'm talking about Patricia. Patricia has been going through the strength. I even, actually, I don't even know who you're talking about. I'm not telling anybody. That's okay. Not only do I not know, it's okay. I don't like I'm not like, Oh my god, I can't wait to find out who like froze their eggs. Like I literally don't care.

Like not not saying your story is bad. I'm just saying like, that's just not the sort of I don't care about them when they're unfrozen. I don't care about them when they're frozen. Just tell me when the baby arrives. Honestly, my first reaction when she was like, we froze our eggs, I said, that's actually so smart, because they're so expensive now because of the egg shortage and she was like no That's our lady. Yes, and I was like, oh, yeah. I was gonna ask you how you freeze eggs I didn't know that you could freeze eggs literally the whole time. She was talking. I was like should I be freezing eggs? Because there's the egg over. Yeah When did the egg when is the egg shortage gonna end?

When birds stop giving us crazy diseases. And you know what? Listen, I want to just go back to end this whole night with Karen, because we've, you know, talked about Karen in the beginning. Karen warned us all. And you guys can hate on Karen, and Karen's probably gonna go to jail, and she probably deserves to go to jail. And you guys can hate on her all you want,

but sometimes you have to listen to even people you don't like. And Karen warned us last season, chickens are dirty birds there. She said it. And now look, now she's a fucking prophet. You want to send her to prison? Well, you know what? I'm just going to have to resort to fake eggs.

So I guess I've earned myself a McGriddle. All right, well, we are going to go to the audience portion of tonight's show. So anybody listening on audio or watching on Instagram, thank you so much for being with us. We love you guys. We'll see you in two weeks. Everybody on YouTube, just hold tight because we are going to be taking your questions for the next 15 minutes or so. Bye everybody. We'll see you in a couple of weeks. Bye.

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