Watch What Crappens - #2725 RHOBH S1411 Part One: Reba McEnTerror

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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I thought this was just like a phenomenal episode. I was riveted the entire time. I mean, it felt like watching an old, like a play, you know, a lady, Southern Belle comes back home from Beverly Hills to deal with the death of a father and a mother who's a tough battle axe. You know, it was just, it was, it was both like, I was like crying, I was laughing, I was cringing. It really had, you know, everything. Yep, it was dark episode, a lot of darkness here, and there's a lot of talk of suicide and stuff like that,

so if that doesn't, if that triggers you, okay, then turn this off, okay? If you didn't watch the episode and don't know what it is, there will be a lot of talk of that today, not a lot of jokes about it, but a lot of talk probably about it because it happened. Okay, it happened on the show. So here we go. We are still in Augusta, Georgia.

And the episode I like is just called, mind your business. They're not even trying to get clever with that one. No, they're like, let's just quote Reba's big moment. So, um, God, this episode was so good. Like this was just, this was a Sutton extravaganza. I just, I'm so excited by this. Okay. So Sutton is, uh, she's putting on makeup and everything. She's like, I've got to put on my makeup on.

Where have I taken off my diamonds? And, uh, they're all just getting ready. Kyle comes in, she's, she went out for a jog in the morning. She, she returns to the house. It's 1118 and son's mother, Reba is in the kitchen holding a blue watering can just standing there. And Kyle comes back in and she's like panting and she's like, and Reba's like, you've been running. She goes, I've been running. I mean, I have a bone, by the way,

I have a bone to pick with your daughter. She told me to go out of the house and make a left and then go to the left on Henry. And there was no Henry. She's like, well, Henry's back there, stupid. In fact, you'd go to the cemetery the way you were going. You'd run to China and back without seeing it. But don't ever go again this late.

You'll die in this heat. When I used to do it, it was 5.30 or 6.30 in the morning. You lazy, simpering fool." She's like, geez. Also, I have to say, when Sutton was in her room, and she, I think that every child who grew up in the South might've thought this, but Sutton's like, where are my diamonds? And she's looking around her room and I was like, oh God, in five minutes she's going to be blaming the maid. I just want to see this play out. I've seen it play out before and I just want to see it play out again. But it didn't. And I was actually really disappointed. I really thought I was going to get some justice. I thought I was going to get some cleaning lady

justice on this, but I never got it. You know, no, very offended. It seemed like it was going to go that way. Reba. The best part about Reba is that she does have kind of like the most stereotypical Southern drawl. Like it's slow, it's rounded, it's lilting. And so it just makes everything that she's saying seem more evil. Not that if you're evil, if you're from the South or if you have a Southern accent, it's just that like, you know, it's that thing where someone sort of is smiling with a slow Southern accent where you can tell they hate you, but they're being nice to your face. And it's just like the nicer they are, the more little t their voice becomes the more evil the undertone is. And her voice is really little t. So she's like, you know, Kyle, I am very strong mentally. And I blame that on my father. I was also his favorite child. So he taught me how to be very strong and independent. Something clearly you never learned in your life with your 11 a.m. jogging. Uh, well, what sign are you? Stop.

No, and also yield. Also caution. Many, many signs, actually. No, I meant like astrologically. Oh, the Satan chart. Well, on that, I suppose I'm a cancer, but I'm not a typical cancer. I come with no warning. I spread for no reason. I get you quick bitch. I Told this to my friend. I'm not a nurturer. Haha, and she laughed Really? You're not a nurturer You're not you're not a nurture So then Avi comes in he's like, um, hi miss Reba you'll be joining us for brunch and she's like brunch

I thought we were having breakfast. Um, well it turned into brunch by the way, Avi hates Reba. Like I like his disdain, his hatred for Reba is so thinly veiled every time they're on screen together. It's uncomfortable. Like it's, it's kind of amazing. There's zero veil. There is zero. Yeah, he's not veiling it at all. He's like, I don't have to put up with your stupid homophobic ass. You're not my mother, witch. She's like, who brought this homosexual into my household? So then, yeah.

She drips with it too. She's like, he goes, well, I thought she says brunch, I thought we were having breakfast. And he goes, well, it's turned says brunch, I thought we were having breakfast and he goes, well, it's turned into brunch. And she just looks at Kyle and she's like, I see that. And then she looks to her watch as well. She doesn't have a watch on. She goes, well, I don't have my watch, but my freckles tell me everyone here is running late. It's not my fault. We can't have breakfast. I'm looking at my wrist and I'm looking up at you and all I can see is it's cock gobbler o'clock. So the girls down here, mama's hungry.

So obviously like, well, okay. Um, would you want to go get dressed and come back? Which is so insulting by the way. And he's like, which I think he did on purpose. And she's like, why am I getting dressed? Well, we're having a proper brunch. Well, I'm fully dressed right now. As a homosexual, I thought you would have understood the value of good Southern fashion. Pete And he's like, okay, I just thought you might want to fluff up a bit. Fluffing is illegal here. Try it and you'll be in prison, sir. She goes, I don't need to do that, but I'll see you in a few minutes. When you get to my age,

you no longer groom yourself. You groom a dog with very long hair. Please excuse me. So she's like, seriously, that dog. When we see the mom's dog, I'm like, oh my god. You see, everybody has a soft spot. And that dog also looks terrified. When she's like, I'm like, oh my God. You see everybody has a soft spot and that dog also looks terrified. When she's like, I'll be back, cookie, or whatever the dog's name is, the dog's just like, please don't, please fall. It just keeps looking at the stoop like, please fall, please.

It also makes you realize what Sutton's childhood was like, because you know the way that Reba combs that dog's hair is the way she would comb Sutton's hair. All right, Sutton, now you lay here. I'm going to make you pretty. I'm just going to comb your hair. Stop moving so much. So Garcella comes down the staircase and so she says hi to everyone and everything.

And Avi is checking on grits because he doesn't want to burn them. And they're just making some chit chat, just general chit chat about like arriving. So anyway, Garcelle, they're still saying hi. Okay. She doesn't want to mess up. She wants to have a conversation with Reba. That's basically the gist of this moment. Well, yeah, basically, but Cheryl, the housekeeper is also there and Cheryl also wants this woman to die, which is so funny. So Garcelle's like, okay, I'll help you guys set up. And he's like, well, okay, let's do this. But, you know, we don't want to rush Sutton because we don't want to mess with the... He starts doing like shaky hands and he's like, the chakras. We don't want to mess with the

chakras. And she goes, oh, God, please, not today. Right? So, then meanwhile, Kyle and Cheryl's just like, don't make me talk to fucking Reba today. I'm telling you now, don't make me talk to that witch today. So then we go up to Kyle and Sutton and Kyle's like, hey Sutton, I was talking to your mom. She's so great. As someone with a mom who fed somebody nails on a date to get revenge, let me just say, I get it. Sutton's like, well, she's very interesting. I suppose.

This really must speak to how tough big Kathy was because if Kyle is like dealing with Reba and being like, she's such a sweetheart. It's like, Oh man, your baseline is so skewed right now. But, um, uh, but also like I would, you know, Reba is much nicer to Kyle, which is notable. She's, she's much friendlier. She's much more open, which has all sorts of layers of implications, you know? So, because it's like in some ways she can get an advocate out of Kyle. And then also there's just like, you know, of course she's just going to be nicer to Kyle. Like the white pretty lady who comes in and, you know, Reba's like, oh, hi there. I mean, that's what the internet was pretty much all saying over the

past week. Yeah. And I agree. I definitely felt that after the first episode this one I didn't feel like she was nice to Kyle I think she talked to Kyle like you're a fucking moron But I do think that she would be you know nicer to Kyle's because of you know both racist reasons and also because Kyle and Because she knows that Kyle is Sutton hate each other deep down. She knows that Kyle's mean to Sutton So I think part of her is just like, oh, this girl's on my team.

Whereas she also knows that she's an advocate for Sutton, so she's gonna shut her down immediately, you know? But I do get the sense of is that Reba, over the course of the episode, gets an appreciation of how much of an idiot Kyle is. Cause I don't think that Reba likes to deal with idiots. I think she starts to realize that Garcella's the smart one and she starts to realize that Kylecella is the smart one and she starts

to realize that Kyle is actually the dumb one. Yes. But, um, but also Reba is one of those people who, as you know, I've read the same comments as you have on the internet and I'm not going to argue with them because we know the history of the South and we, especially when Reba goes into her like, well back in world war two, it's like, okay. So that's like from a different time.

So I'm not even going to argue with any of that. world too. It's like, okay. So it's like from a different time. And so I'm not even going to argue with any of that. One thing I will say about Reba is that she is a hater period. She hates all of these people. I don't think there's one person on this show that she likes. She even hates her own grandkids. She's like that fucking weirdo. Do I have to sleep in his room? So this is fair. This is a fair point. She is, she's an equal opportunity hater.

She just hates everybody. So in that way, she's fair. I don't know if she's fair and equitable in any other way, but in the hatred department, she hates them all. Yeah, so Kyle, of course, does not pick up on any of this. And she's like, whoa, wow, your mom's so great. And I understand more about her just in the little conversation that I had,

which is I think Kyle's way of bragging, like, I made a breakthrough with your mom. And so, Son's like, well, what did you learn? Oh, well, she had a very tough dad and he taught her to be strong and she told me that she's not a nurturer. And Son's like, she said that? You got that out of her? Well, I mean, she's aware of that. Like, you know, and how long was it?

By the way, how long was your dad not well for? She's like, well, I noticed it when I was like 25 or 26, but Sutton is still like reeling that her mom just like made a, had a moment of self-awareness right in front of Kyle, but that like clearly Sutton could never pry out of her own mother. Well, it's also a moment of just someone

not from the South being there, because people who aren't from the South don't have the same rules of not speaking. You know, Like, so, how do you feel? What's your sign? What do you like? What do you like and you don't like? You know, people, you're not used to talking about feelings like that. So, Sutton's like, wow, how'd you get this out of my mother? Hi, Astor! And I was like, oh, how dare you, how gauche. So, Sutton tells us that she was in her 20s when she got the call that she needs to come home. And it was surprising because she didn't understand

how her father, who was their rock, could be starting to break. And I guess she's talking about his mental illness and depression and stuff. And she talks about how they put him in the hospital twice. And Kyle goes, really? I didn't know that. Cause you don't fucking listen, Kyle.

How did you not know that? I didn't know that. Cause you don't fucking listen, Kyle. I didn't even know that. Kyle, we know this. And even I knew that, Kyle. And then she's like, what was going on with him? I'm like, Kyle, can't you read between the lines? So Sutton is like, Sutton's like, it's talked about how he was in a depressive state

and they wound up putting him on drugs. And then he was on sleeping pills. And he just was, he was on those drugs and Kyle goes for depression. No, Kyle. Disfunction. Kyle. Jesus. Kyle is so useless in these situations.

It's actually kind of hilarious. Like it's actually makes me like Kyle Moore because she plays the role of Rose Nylund. So then, um, Sutton is like, you know, it talks about how we had chronic depression and then he was on pills to regulate everything. And we see all these photos and we see young Sutton. It's like very like it, this is sad to watch, right? Cause we know the tragic end and she talks about how he'd be on and off them for years and he would self-medicate with alcohol and talk a lot about suicidal ideations. But he never went

to therapy, so he had this disjointed treatment of just like pills but no therapy, which is really not a wise way to go forward. Yeah, it's a scary way to go forward. And it's a way that a lot of people take now, which is also terrifying, you know? So she's basically talking about the self-medication and stuff. He went through this for six full years before he passed away. And she says he shot himself on December 20th and December 22nd, sorry, was when he killed himself. And it's interesting because it's almost like she's making the choice of how she words it because, you know, we word it

differently now. We say like, he passed. Died by or died by suicide. Yeah, you know, stuff like that. It's like he killed himself, you know. So, there's a lot there with her and Kyle goes, well, you're lucky to have your mom. And she's like, thanks for your toxic positivity. So, it just goes, yeah. I don't think I've ever heard her sound more like Clint Eastwood. She was just like, yeah. And then we come to Reba. I mean, this is all fascinating, right? Because we see Reba is

this hardened woman who's went through this massive trauma and like, she's just like, just cold and stone, just ossified and just like locked down. And now she's just mean. And so Reba's like, she's just hectoring Avi about his making the grits. And she's like, how many minutes had the grits been in there? An hour? And he's like, could you tell me? I mean, can I take it out? I mean, does that look good to you? I mean, you're the grit screen around here, bitch. And she's like, oh, well, all you're doing is heating up. You do realize that, right? You stupid homosexual idiot. He's like, yeah, well, I don't want to overcook them. And she's like, well, you don't want dry grits, turn it off.

And he goes, well, that's what I asked, but okay. She goes, what are these forks for? And he's like, if someone wants to cut a slice of cake. And she's like, mm-hmm, okay. Where someone's gonna take a piece out of your cakey. But the, yeah, I mean, look, Reema's mean, okay? And I get that she's off putting but don't fuck with grants man Are you heating up or are you a part of me is on her side? I'm like don't

Not necessarily wrong here. She's like look all you're doing is heating them up. Why are you asking so many questions? Why have they been in there for an hour put them in for 20 minutes to take them out? That's all you have to do Yeah, so then Garcelle joins and the good thing about grits is you can just always add more cream. Y'all. Okay. Yeah. So Garcelle joins them. And so he's like, so what am I making you? And she goes, well, what do you have? You live here. And he's like, well, would you like? She's just like torturing

Avi, which is so funny. So then Garcelle's like, how are you? You look good. And she goes, you look wonderful. It's like, wow, that's the nicest thing Reba said. No, no, no. She didn't say, except she didn't say it like that. Sorry, sorry to, sorry to no and you, but they were Reba. Reba is like so angry at Avi right now. She's like just staring at Avi and she's like, well, I don't want that. I don't want to drink that. I, cause obviously I do want a vodka lemonade. I don't want that. And Garcella's standing next to her, and she goes, you look great. And she's like, well, I don't want, and you look great too, honey.

Anyway, what are you gonna make me for a drink? It was like, okay, let me give you a little, like yeah, you look wonderful. Uh-huh, uh-huh. What would you like a vodka lemonade? She goes, no, what else you got? He's like, I could do a Bloody Mary. She goes, definitely, I can definitely do that.

So Garcella asks how she sleeps. And she's like, well, do a bloody marriage. She goes, definitely, I can definitely do that. So, Garcelle asks how she sleeps and she's like, well, I was just telling Alvie, I don't like that ice. How would you sleep being served the wrong ice? Jesus Christ. It's very Heather Dubrow. There's multiple ice options in this kitchen. So, and then Garcelle's like, huh, let me just say this, apple tree.

No. So then we get an, of course, a montage of Sutton being totally, totally demanding to all her friends over all the years, which of course is, you know, what we love about her. And then Garcelle says that, you know, with Reben and Sutton, they're both like a little awkward, but somehow lovable. So she, Garcel says-

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And for the full experience, head to my YouTube channel. If you're looking for more podcasts to help you tend to your wellbeing, check out New Year New Mindset on the Wondery app. Let's make this year our best one yet, baby. Garcelle's like, so you're still working as a therapist. Interesting. Tell me, do you use this move a lot?

Mm-hmm. It's my favorite. Just a little scrunch of the eyebrows. I've played a therapist. Might I suggest something that you could add into your practice? It's what I call no. Just use that. Do you ever use this when you're questioning someone? Wow. Wow.

And if someone reveals a inner secret, do you ever go with a classic? What? What? So Garcelle asked her about being a therapist and Ree was like, I'm quitting in September. Well, how come? I'm 82. All right.

You want to sit on the porch Einstein? I'm 82. Jesus Christ. At least this one has the excuse of having dicks in his mouth. What's your excuse? Let's go sit on the porch. I really need to hear from her patients. What is it like having Reba as your therapist? It's like, well, I just, I feel really insecure and I just feel like I can't speak up when I really want, like in moments when like there's conflict, I just sort of become a shell of

a person. Well, that's not my fault. That's not gonna help your answer to everything. I can actually see how Reba could be a good therapist because look, I'm like a Gen Xer. You hear my advice, stop your fucking crying. And I think that's how she probably is. Because when she doesn't talk, she has that,

she has kind of a sweet smile and she does look like she's listening to you. Her eyebrows are raised and she nods. I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's like medical, but she's like always nodding. And it's just like a, if it's medical, it's the Meredith Marx, let's just say, where she's got kind of like a just regular head bobble. So she looks like she's listening to you and she's got like a nice serene smile on her face.

So I think if she doesn't talk much, you can just kind of implant whatever you want on her. You can project whatever you need her to say, be saying, that she would be saying, I can see how she could pass as a therapist for sure. Well, she would also be, I would love to see her as a therapist to like an obnoxious man. Like I would love to see a guy trying to go up against her

and she'd be like, mm-hmm, now what made you think that? You know, I think that's, I feel like that's what her, that's the only question she would ask over and over again. I would love to see her just like, just take down some awful guy. But for a therapist for me, it would be challenging. I would have a very rough time doing therapy with her. I think it would be good for me because I'd cry and then she'd go, okay, honey, get over it. Nobody likes a crier. Okay, that'll be $100. Oh my God, that was amazing. It's the best therapy I ever got.

So they go out. She called me fat. Oh my God. I'd come home all giddy and just getting abused at therapy. So Reba and Garcelle go out to the back porch and Reba's like, do you want some ice? And Garcelle goes, no, I'm good. Being tropical, I don't really have a lot of ice. Well, you are an English, that's for sure. Congrats English people, you just caught us stray.

Like, what the fuck kind of thing is that to say? But just the reason I'm laughing so hard is because Garcelle's reaction. She goes, oh, what? And they just go sit down. She goes, wow, this is so lovely. Thank you so much for indulging us. You know, I have such an affinity for your daughter and I think she would give you the shirt off her back.

She goes, well, she would do that. She's always been like that. Unfortunately, she has terrible taste. So get the shirt off her back. You're not going to be invited anywhere. I'm going to tell you that right now. On the other hand, she might look a little prettier without that hideous shirt. So herself, giving her the shirt off your back helps only her. Garcel's amazing. Trust me, giving her the shirt off your back helps only her.

Well, I'm so happy we're having this one-on-one time together. I wanted to talk to you because Sudden and I have had intimate conversations. We see a month earlier, Sudden is crying about Reba and saying that she knows that her mom loves her, but doesn't ever feel like her mom is ever like ever proud of her. So Garcel says, you know, she's so proud of how far she's come and she would just love to hear you say you're proud and you love her too. And I feel like I can say something to that. I don't think that's any of your business.

Reba just leans in. She just smiles a big smile at her and she's like, now I don't want to insult you. I think you have no clue, honey. Ooh, it is so, it is so devastating. You just can't say those words in a Southern accent and not be totally devastating. It's just, it is. But Garcella's Teflon, you know, which I love too. And she also kind of, I think, gets what

Reba's saying because Reba's like, listen, honey, you think it's been terrifying living with me for all these years? What do you think it's been like living with Sutton all these years? And I think that Garcelle can kind of get that. And Garcelle, I think we've been watching this moment in the previews all week. So we're like, oh my God, this is so awkward. Garcelle does barely even flinches. You can see that she stiffens up a little bit like, bitch, don't try it with me. But she also is like, I'm prepared for you. You think I can't handle you? I'm not backing down. And she comes back in a very gentle and actually a very respectful way, but she does not back

down and she's like, you're right, I don't. I haven't lived with you guys. I haven't grown up with her. I don't know. You're right. I'm just coming as a caring friend and before you lean forward and say something else that's condescending to me, I'd just like to say no. No.

So you're giving me a message. Is that it? She goes, well, maybe I am, maybe I am the messenger. There, done. So good for her. What do you say to that bitch? Yeah, good for her. And one way I get where Reba's saying, like, it's none of your fucking business, and it's not,

but at the same time, like, I care about your kid, and you obviously have a shitty relationship, so I'm trying to help. You want me to back off, I'll back off. So I think Garcelle handled it very well. Yeah, I mean, truthfully, it really isn't Garcelle's place to have this conversation with the mom, but she's just like, fuck it, I'm gonna do it,

because A, I'm on TV, and B, like, what, I love my friend, and her mom needs to know, and I don't care if it's awkward and impolite, I'm gonna do this. Yeah, and as someone who's lost her mother, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff you regret that you wasn't communicated, you know, and it's like, I think you just get to a point where you're like, what are all these walls we build up with each other? They're so stupid. You know, they're so stupid. We just make all these invisible rules that we're not allowed to say this and we're not allowed to say that. We're not allowed to show this feeling. Fuck it, who cares?

Let me tell you, I read a lot of books, I watch a lot of TV shows. Let me tell you how they all end. People die. They all fucking die. So whatever you have to say, say it. Because your story ends the same way everybody else's does. You know what? Too many walls have been built in between us.

Too many dreams have been shattered around us. If I seem to give up, then still never win. Because deep in my heart, I know the strength is within. That's Kathie Dennis. And she's never been more wiser. Pete Slauson Katherine Dennis? Jared Slauson Kathie. Jared Slauson Very big difference. Kathie Dennis, not Katharine. Pete Slauson Good for you. Kathie Dennis was always a poet.

My favorite poet, my favorite poem from Catherine Dennis was when she was like, crosswalk, crosswalk, fuck yourself, I ain't slowing down, die, stupid crosswalk lady. It was kind of iambic pentameter and I thought it was beautiful. Oh, I did one too many syllables. Yeah, you fucked it up there at the end, but that was pretty good. It was an extra bonus syllable. Bonus syllable just to kind of, you know. That was a haiku plus. It was a haiku plus.

It was supersized. Cause for 99 extra on Pecan. Anyway, so, so inside, so we cut away, Kyle comes down. If you shed a tear just now with the beauty of Catherine Dennis's poetry, you're not the only one. So Kyle, I made Ronnie chuckle. That's I'm done. You're not the only one. Oh, Kyle. I made Ronnie chuckle. I'm done.

So anyway, you guys don't know what happened on the first episode. Goodnight, everyone. You're just so funny, because I see you counting on your fingers. Tommy is Tommy is Tommy is Tommy. Tommy is Tommy. I'm so sad that I didn't stick the landing.

Just you counting on your fingers and not knowing what to do with that extra S was really funny. I mean. But the thing is there was so much flexibility with the syllables because it was only one word. All right, so Sutton comes downstairs and she's setting up the table with Avi.

She's like, why don't we transfer some flowers from the living room and put them on this table? Oh, move. And Kyle comes in, she's like, oh my God, everything looks so nice. Everyone here to eat, yeah, it's gonna be amazing. So everything's good, right? We're all a big happy family.

Like, it's like everybody's tense, but Kyle, you know? Yeah, Kyle has no idea the subtext of anything happening in this episode. So, it sounds like, well, Garcelle's talking to, so it's like, well, car sells talking to mom. It's like, so then we go back outside and car sells. Like, I think for me, my mom being gone, that's right. I've put on a little bit of the victim cloak here. So you can't come at me.

I miss her so much. And I wish there were things I would have said to her and we because well, death is final, isn't it? You can't call your mother up and say, da da da da da da da. You can't call up your mother and say, I wish you were proud of me and my stupid little boutique. Congratulations. You sell a, you sell a camisole somewhere. Wow. Wow. I can promise you, your mother didn't care about a boutique when she was here and she doesn't give a shit about it now. Death is final. Okay. Just like sales probably have

to be at your store. Otherwise everything would be returned over. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're talking to me, Garcelle, here. This is not something. I'm sorry, that was called projection. I'm a therapist. Pardon me. It's very hard. I've been dealing with the drama of possibly dried grits all morning. I've got some northerner making grits out in the kitchen, doesn't know what he's doing. It's a bit stressful time for me. And now I got to care about some squirt that's being sold in Beverly Hills. So Garcelle is like, she's like, no, no, no, I wish I could, I wish I could say anything. I would give anything to do that.

Yes. And so I think, so sudden, I think the sudden come out. Yeah. And so, I think, so, sudden, I think, the sun come out. Yeah, so it's like, okay, time for brunch, guys. And Reba's like, well, we've been waiting since eight o'clock. Because now it's gotta be noon, right? So, Sun's like, well, why do you say things like that, Mom? She goes, to show you more love,

to show that you've wasted four hours of time that I could have been giving you the love that you so wasted four hours of time that I could have been giving you the love that you so apparently made. And so she's like, ma'am, thank you for your time. Well, thank you for wasting it. This has been fun. So they clink and she goes, you're welcome. That'll be a thousand dollars. And Garcela's like, hold on, wait for another trademarked. Ha! Ha ha ha ha. Kyle comes out, what costs $1,000? I want to buy something that costs $1,200. I can shop anywhere.

I can shop anywhere, even in Ribb's backyard. Every time Ben and I pass like a gas station store, we're like, oh my God, I can shop anywhere. Gas station stores, airport stores, airplanes. I can shop anywhere. It's totally my personality. I could jump anywhere. It's totally my personality. I know the one place Kyle can't shop though, Kyle by Alien 2.

Oh, Burns, Snapple, Ben Nepple. Never too late to disc that one. So, Garth, it's like somewhere along the way, Reba got really hurt. She shut down. And that's what we're seeing. It may just be a dry biscuit to us, but it's the end of the world to Reba.

So I know why Sutton had a relationship with her dad, and she didn't have that with her mom. And I think there might be some jealousy there. There might be some jealousy. I think that's actually pretty good. Maybe the mom was like, well, you'd like him better anyway. Well, and also, think back earlier in the episode, she said that the reba said that she

was her dad's favorite, right? So Reba, like, she both knows what it's like to be in son's position, but she also is now like, realizing, like, I think that she, she probably in some ways misses that as well. And is definitely, I do think there's probably some jealousy there. And I think that she probably in some ways misses that as well and is definitely, I do think there's probably some jealousy there. And I think it's probably hard. Like if you are a parent and you see, like you feel like you do everything for your child and then you see the child is just like, has a different bond with the other parent. Like I actually can imagine that might be difficult.

I'll never know because I'm not going to have a kid, but like I'll ask my houseplants about it someday. My house, here's what my house plants say if you ask them. Please give me some water. Please. I'm so thirsty. Yeah, I've got a house plant, Plantasia, and she has some beautiful new blonde highlights courtesy of being ignored.

She's like, like Manilac. She looks like Tina Turner now. Okay, so now they start eating and she, Reba's like, well, great color. I love this color. And she goes, well, they gave those to me because I ordered a hundred napkins, mama. So I got some flowers. So then Junebug comes in and sees the flowers

and starts barking at them, which was pretty funny. She's like, move the flowers. Junebug's an idiot. But then she's also like, isn't Reba taking one of the napkins, one of the nice napkins and pretending to do bullfighting with June Carter? She's like, here you go, run at it, run at it. She's waving it and then June just goes nuts.

So she's like, oh, I love these, I love these napkins you got son. And then she merely uses them to use it to torture the dog. So then they sit down and they start having some brunch stuff and Garcelle says, do you want me to serve here? Do you want me to move? That just give it to me. I'll move them. She goes, what you okay. That wouldn't be good. Mama. It looked pretty for a second, but we're not going to be able to see each other. She goes, good. I want all that wouldn't be good. Mama, it looked pretty for a second, but we're not gonna be able to see each other. She goes, good, I want all y'all to see my face.

Has anybody had any of these grits? And Garcelle's like, oh, these are good. It's like, you lucked out this time, Cocoa Puff. Avi, talking to you. Well, I loved that Garcelle is, like they're all talking about the grits. Like, oh, these grits are good. I guess I should have said cream puff, right?

I'm sorry, I just really like Cocoa Puffs. Cream puff is the more standard. They could have gone, could have taken the wrong way by accident. I was like, wow, why'd I say Cocoa Puffs? I guess I'm at cream puff. I'm trying to think of my old Southern, you know, anti-gay to say. The way that you've been tormented in the past. Cream puff is the term. I prefer Coco puffs. Okay. Calm down.

So, um, uh, but I liked about this scene was they're eating this grits. They're all kind of having this small talk moment because that way no one has to talk about anything. And Reba's like, everyone's like Reba saying, has anyone had the grits and Garza like, oh, these grits are good. Kyle, you didn't have any. Because Kyle's clearly probably like moving the grits around because she's like, oh my God, curbs. And Kyle being put on the spot to have grits. I love that in the middle of all this, Garcelle still finds a way to be petty towards Kyle. She's like, I'm going to make you eat those grits on camera. Because if you don't eat those grits, Reba's going to notice now. And Kyle does her

weird voice like, I'm going to eat them next. Like, fuck you. Because you know, grits are the most evil food that you can possibly eat. Like if you're trying to lose weight, those are the most, it's just corn meal, but it's not just corn meal. It's butter, cream, butter, cream, butter, cream, butter, cream. And then you just keep stirring in more butter and cream until it tastes good. And Tom knows this and she's not going to touch that shit. Yeah. Didn't Dorit just order grits like last episode at that restaurant? And remember that restaurant that she met Bo's with and Dorit was like, I'll have the grits please.

And it's just funny to see that there's like a grits through line happening at Beverly Hills. Oh yeah. Last place, how to expect it. So, Reba's like- It's really an interesting observation by me. Reba goes, she thinks- Guys, let me stop. Let me stop the podcast.

You're like, stop the show. Grits are in. Stop the show. They grits another episode. I have an announcement. Grits, they're back. So Reba goes, she thinks you put sugar on them. And Garcelle's like, well, some people do eat them with sugar, but I just don't get it. She goes,

only Northern people. I think at this point now, Garcelle has won over Reba. This is the point where Reba realizes that Garcelle, like she, I think that Reba, at least maybe I'm projecting this onto it. There may be no evidence for this, but I think that Reba likes the way Garcelle, like she, I think that Reba, at least maybe I'm projecting this onto it. There may be no evidence for this, but I think that Reba likes the way Garcelle held her own against her and that Garcelle understands a proper way to make grits. The Garcelle is also mortified by northerners

and their use of sugar. And it was like at this, and I think that also Reba probably on a certain level really Adored the way Garcelle humiliated Kyle about the grits just now. She's like, oh that was good You can stick around So they're talking about how pretty the house is and so it's like, oh, I've left all the houses in Augusta They're all kind of different, you know, the house we lived in was built in, that was 1933, mama. She's like, 38.

38, that's what I meant, you know. And I was thinking, I might take them by and see it. And Reba just kind of nods and she goes, it's just around the corner. She goes, it is just around the corner. Are you trying to trick me? Yeah, it ain't gonna work. I'm not gonna say anything snotty.

So you know what else is just around the corner? This wooden spoon to your head. So, so Sut what else is just around the corner? This wooden spoon to your head. So so something's like, I want to go back to my childhood home. And she says she wants to show Kyle and Garcelle where she grew up, you know, because she loved the house, etc. But also, like she said, we always had great memories in that house until December 23rd, 2002. So this is like, I mean, this is so heavy. And it really does

feel like if not a Tennessee Williams play some other like 20th century American, you know, piece of theater that we're watching unfold right now. So this is crazy. And also two days before Christmas. Oh, I know. It's just so dark. So sad. Yeah. So Carl's like, Oh, so we're going to go see a house. We're going to get to go inside. You know, I know. It's just so dark. So sad. Yeah. So, Carl's like, oh, so we're going to go see a house. We're going to get to go inside. You know, I could sell it for you guys. Like, I'm in real estate. So, if you guys need that.

And Reba's like, no, we're not going inside. Somebody lives there. And then Carl pauses. She's like, oh, I think we're going inside. So, it's like, well, we might ring the doorbell. Oh, horrors. No, you don't do that. You don't do that.

Oh, horrors. No, you don't do that. You don't do that. Oh, horrors. No. She just got like, she's, she's got like 50% more Southern in that moment. And so Garcella is like, you don't want to go inside. And she goes, I'm definitely not going. No. Did you not hear me say horrors? So Sutton is basically saying, she now tells us that when her dad shot himself, Reba was home and she was in the kitchen and she knew that he was like, he was on pills and he was on Xanax and he was self-medicating. He was just in a really rough state. And she also knew that there was a loaded gun in the house. So Sudden says that she

personally has some penned up resentment towards her mother about, I guess she's implying that her mother should not have had the loaded gun in the house, et cetera. So it's just, it's dark. And you know, and you know, Reba carries that with her too. You have to imagine, right? Even though it's not Reba's fault, but you have to imagine she probably thinks about that. It's just all one big psychological morass. Yeah. So Reba's like, all right, well, what's next? We've been sitting here a long time. Anybody just want to pull a baseball bat and treat me like a pinata? Thank you. This was really, really yummy. Wasn't it yummy, Kyle? Didn't you enjoy all

the grits that you ate? Oh wait, you still haven't touched them. I'm about to eat them right now. God, stop it. Well, I'm gonna go grab my purse upstairs. And Reem was like, where are you going, Sutton? She goes, we're gonna go see the house, mama. She goes, oh God. So Sutton's like, well, you know, it's a lot I just said because, you know, we're still on Sutton's confessional.

And the producer is saying, has your mom tried to deal with any of this? She goes, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And she goes, well, that's a lot I just said. We don't talk about this. It's like, well, you just gave an earful to America, so it's gonna be interesting. I wish we could see the mom's reaction

maybe in the after show or something, but I don't know if the mom even watches any of this, but yes. Sutton's like, yeah, mom, I'll give you a full report. And Reba's like, I don't want one. UFO lands in Suffolk and that's official, said the News of the World. But what really happened across two nights in December 1980, when US servicemen saw mysterious lights in the forest near RAF Woodbridge and claimed to have had a close encounter

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So Erica FaceTime's the read and she's like, hey, there you are, you ready? You ready to see what's going on? First of all, the place is a disaster, but look what's happening. And she's like, oh! Ah! Oh my God, the Cabant's getting a face lift.

Well, the commandant's getting a whole new life. The wallpaper's going in over the weekend, but wait. Boom, boom, look what a little paint does to a hallway. I love that Martin Lawrence is really leading into the black and white prison stripes for this whole thing. You got to love someone who actually watches the show. Yeah. So Erica's like, I've been under a microscope since the day I left Tom. And we see headlines again in case someone has not been watching the show. And she's financially, socially, emotionally, I couldn't have done anything right. So God forbid I

spend anything I make. And so now she's buying a Porsche. Now we see footage of her buying like a Porsche and then putting a bow on it and stuff like that. Yeah, I love that Erica tried to like keep it keep it calm for about a year. She's like, fuck it, I'm getting a Porsche and a remodel. She's like, yeah, well, there were some people that said I shouldn't even be able to work and have money. Oh, you know, I've always loved this tiny little house with its, with its little stove, tiny little hot plate and the bucket that I pee in. It's nice to live in a humble abode, but the energy has changed so much.

I just can't thank Martin enough. This is huge for me to turn this $2 million house to something that's worth, I don't know, maybe three and a half million dollars. Oh God, to live humbly. What a wonderful journey. You deserve it. Erika. Oh, thanks honey. After four to almost five years of hell, I'm excited about life again and I feel really good about that. Cause that's a signal to myself. You return it back to normal. You get there. You're slowly making your way back to a place you recognize. Before you know it, I'll be crawling all over

the floor to song, singing a song. I'm not sure what the song is yet, but I'm sure there's gonna be a rhyme with pussy in there. So you just watch out, Grammys. Here I go. I'm not someone who sleeps into noon, but I was. I was sleeping to noon if I even got out of bed. But now I wake up at eight in the morning and prepare for a whole day of nothing. It's exciting. So then we go to Bo's is and Bo's has a scene with her daughter and she's like, I got us some snacks And so she's like, oh, that's fancy. Yeah, don't act like I don't do this for you every day. Okay All right here. Let's just spread the snacks all over the couch and lie down on the couch and eat them We'll just make the assistant over there stand stand there with the dust buster

Look at this it's white chocolate and that's caramel and these are brownies and that's some sort of donut hole and that's some sort of cookie stick and this thing, I like to call it a tray. They all sit on it. Enjoy! And this is such a mom thing to do too where you lay out all these snacks and you go, okay, here's everything and then you eat a bite of one thing. She's like, that's not how you eat it.

You're supposed to dip it first. Come on, Lail. So, her daughter Lail, is that how you say her name again? Lail, Lail, L-A-E-L. I don't know, I think it's Lail. Lail. So, Lail, I don't know.

But so she sits her down and everything and she talks about how they are really close because ever since Bo's husband died, Lail's been the, like, it's been the two of them, et cetera. And so, Bo's asking her what's going on and Lail's talking about she's got volleyball and friends and stuff. It seems like they don't, I mean, they seem very close in one way, but in the other way, I think it's probably just being on TV. You know, she's not used to being on TV, but it does seem very job interview-y.

She's like, all right, well, what's been going on? She's like, volleyball and my, can I eat, should I dip this in? No, you don't have to dip that one. Okay, ma'am, thank you. Okay, your little friends. Why do you say it like that? What, your little friends? Yeah, do say it like that? What, your little friends?

Yeah, do you want me to say your big friends? They'll kill you. I wouldn't say that to any of them, especially the one that won't touch the grits. So, Lail Shabessy is asking, like, by the way, how long have you been dating Mr. Keely? Oh, eight months. And she says, well, because you told me in December, but I didn't know you were officially dating. And then you told me you were friends and you gave me that eyebrow. Like you sort of like, hmm. Like, so I didn't know exactly what you meant. So you're like, so one of my friends is coming over to Ghana. She's like, girl, why are you imitating me like that? That's not how I talk. Well, the last time I imitated how you actually do talk,

I was offered the role of gypsy, of mama Rose and gypsies. All right. Good point. Good point. Don't imitate me. So, uh, so what are you talking about? She's like, well, I mean, I didn't know if you were dating dating. She was, well, we were dating dating. I mean, at that point, a man is going to fly halfway across the world to see you. I would consider that dating. So Bose tells us that Keeley kind of spontaneously showed up in Ghana.

And so Bose had to tell her daughter, oh, by the way, there's a guy I've been dating is coming to see us. And she was like, where? Like here in Ghana? She's like, yeah. So that's pretty intense that Keeili flew all the way across to Ghana. But she says, things are things by the way are moving for me and for Gili in a way that's surprising for all of us. And as you know, your mom is not a spring chicken. She's a summer chicken.

I just invented that. We're going to brand it next. And I was like, okay, you know, at my age, it'd be better for us if we wanted to have a child to do it sooner rather than later. How do you feel about that? There's only one right answer and that is it is great. I love you, mother. So she's like, well, I would feel good about it. Oh, well, why are you okay with it?

Tell mama. And she's like, well, I just I'm trying to think of the right words. Use any words, just not the wrong ones. I'm watching you. You can start with Netflix. Dip it, eat it, eat it. All right, use the right words. Use any words, just not the wrong ones. I'm watching you. Dip it. You can start with Netflix. Dip it. Netflix.

Dip it, eat it, eat it. All right, use the right words. Take your words and dip it into the chocolate sauce and then the caramel sauce. There you go. She's like, well, I'm going to be leaving and then you won't have a kid to raise anymore. Oh, kids, kids are so cute.

Just thinking, oh my God, what would my mother do if they didn't have me around anymore? Let me tell you, Coke, Franzia, fucking tennis instructors, get the fuck out of here. You ain't the center of the universe. Do you want me to have a kid because you're afraid I'll be lonely? And she's like, well, I think our bond is changing and not in a bad way, but in an evolving way. And now I want you to share that bond with someone else. What I'm trying to say is you're too much for me, mother."

Oh, oh, oh. She's like, maybe I'll get more air if there's another person you could be suffocating. Well, I'm shocked by this response. I didn't even know how she came up to this. There wasn't even a PowerPoint involved. Where is my baby that threw a tantrum when I suggested there would be another sibling? Where has she gone? So she goes, what about Keely? Well, I think I did it backwards, you know. Would you accept a baby? Would you accept Keely? Ha ha ha ha ha! Accept them both. So she's like, oh yeah, okay, Wolfie, that's great, Mom. Okay! So TLDR, you don't know how to dip snacks and you're okay with me having a baby.

Got it. Still have little friends. The end. So, back in Augusta, they are going to the house. So they're saying bye to Reba and so it's like, wow, she can talk. And Kyle's like, I am obsessed with your mom. Love her. You know Sutton, Garzell and Avi are like, just shaking their heads.

Like so. Like Kyle comes and takes the mom's side immediately. So Kyle's like, these people are expecting us, right? And Sutton says, yeah, my good friend, who knows the current owners, arranged it. So we're going to be good. We're going to be good guys.

Now this was the hill. We would ride our bikes down this hill. It just seemed so big at the time, so big. But now look at it. It's just not such a big hill. This is like a scene out of like Forrest Gump. No, it's not. So Garcelle's literally nothing like Forrest Gump. There's just a hill. Like I don't know. Was a hill. Was there a famous hill scene in Forrest Gump? So Garcelle says, this is the part of the trip I'm not looking forward to because it's the last place she saw her dad.

And I don't know what the emotions are going to be like. And that scares me. So then they pop to this house and there's this like sweet family that's there and everything. And it's this lady and they say hello and Garersa and Sun is now getting understandably kind of spooked out and she's getting nervous and she's getting choked up. Like, it's pretty intense. Right off the bat. This is intense. It reminded me of that Mary DeMedicine where they went to Heavenly's childhood home. Oh my God, that was so rough. And she's like, this was my room. I didn't have any

windows. And I mean, I was just so sad. She was like locked in her room. I mean, it was just so sad. Okay, so anyway, so I'm already sad because this story is sad, plus the heavenly memories in there. So anyway, they go up and they meet the owner and they go in just to start seeing it. And she's like, I'm sitting strapped. Nice to meet you, Maure. I'm just gonna warn you, there might be some tears. Maureen's like, it's okay, just walk through the house. Take as much time as you can. Just, you're wearing running mascara, just stay away from the white couch. That's all I'm requesting. All right. Maureen's like, listen, I just watched

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