Watch What Crappens - #2787 RHOBH S1418 Part Two: Give ‘Em Hell, Garcelle!

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

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Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to Watch Your Crappins ad free right now. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Watch what happens, oh well you know what happens Guess what happens when there's so much that happens Well hello and welcome to Watch What Happens! This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey wait a minute I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. So, Andy's like, Sutton, you told Boze and Malibu you found suspicious that Keeley had

never been married or had children before. And Sutton's like, you know, and we see some unseen footage of Boze telling Sutton this and she's like, oh God, when you see that, you kind of want to just like flag it. Am I right with a big red flag? Red, red, red, red flag, but totally supportive of you. And, uh, and he's like, do you stand by it? She's like, well, you know, me and Dayton don't go so well. So, you know, man, it just, it makes me nervous when men have not been married and are approaching 50. I mean, and I mean, do you have commitment issues, Andy? I mean, that's all I mean by it. He's like, I mean, do you have commitment issues, Andy? I mean, that's all I mean by it.

He's like, I've never been married. Yeah. And look at you. Look at you right now. A grown Peter Pan with children. Okay. How do you feel about that? And he's like, I have commitment issues, which is kind of her point. So she made that one. So Andy's like, well, okay, let's talk about your fertility journey.

No thanks. FF. But she's doing that. She's still doing it. And then she's talking about the other ladies and he says, you know, turning what many found to be kind of an unlikely friendship, you could say, well, bosom buddies, what drew you and Doreen together? And she's like, well, you know, I met with Garcelle

before we started filming and I was like, tell me all the gossip. And she said she wouldn't because she wanted my relationships to be my relationships. And I really respected that. So when I came to the Sutton's party, I was inspired by Garcelle's directive to be open. And basically, the other person that was open was Dorit. Now she was an open wound, but to be open and basically the other person that was open was Dorit. Now she was an open wound, but thankfully I had a lot of tool to wipe around that womb and stop the bleeding, Andy. I go where I'm needed. Honestly, I was just fascinated by her hat that looked like Saturn. So Andy is like, all right, well, Kyle said Dorit is so all over Bose's ass, it's actually gross. And Garcelle said Dorit was an embryo of Bose's Gucci. How do you feel when you hear those comments, Dorit?

Because he was a little pathetic. But it was funny too. You got to admit it was funny. Wait, hold on one second. Hold on, let me dust this one off. Ha, ha, ha. Well, Bose said on the after show that Sutton and Gar- wait, Sutton and Gar- that would be Gar- and Dorit in a couple.

Sorry about that. Sutton and Gar- were jealous and we see a flashback of them saying that. Bo's saying, well, perhaps some jealousy that I would find any interest in Dorit, given that perhaps I'm not finding interest in them. So, Gar- is like, absolutely not. I'm not finding interest in them. So Garcelle is like, absolutely not. Only time I really had a problem with it was when we were in Oceanside and you guys were talking and talking and we were just left out for an hour. I mean, you guys were just yapping down there on your side of the table.

And we see a flashback to when they were talking at a table and Garcelle's saying, are we not included in this conversation? Um, so Garcelle's like, can I tell you, if you run the tape of me, of the past five years, everybody had an issue with Sutton and I being friends. So it's not like this is crazy that this happened. Flashback to Diana Jenkins. You are fake. You are such a fake and a phony fake fake.

And Garcelle's saying, that's kind of shitty. Are you her bodyguard you need a new willing here i am bottom oh yeah well people have an issue with youtube being friends that wouldn't you say i'm not gonna and i'm not gonna engage and she's like well no i'm not gonna go on and on about it i mean oh my god how are they friends oh my, how are they getting along? What do they have in common? I'm not going to do all that kind of stuff. I mean, is she an embryo, suck up her coochie? Perhaps. Is she,

is she a piece of tool who wants to attach to her dress? Perhaps, but I'm not going to go on and on. And Boz and Dorita are like, yes, you did. You did do that. You did go on and on. But to be fair, you all, not Boz, because she wasn't here, but everyone else went on and on about Garcelle standing up for Sutton all the time too. It's not like you guys never said anything. So why is it bad for Garcelle to say something if she's saying it? You guys have no problem saying that Garcelle is up to Reed's ass every single reunion. So why is it a sudden problem? Every single time.

You know? Yeah, exactly. So Boz is like, well, there just was so many times that you did that. And everyone's like, yeah, you stuck together. You're stuck, there you go, you're stuck together. And because they- And now they're literally stuck. Because Garcelle's glove is stuck on Sutton's dress.

And so she's like, well, look, on anyways, to be honest, if I said stuff, I'm glad you had a friend in Bose. All right, I don't have a problem with that. I'm just glad that you don't have a friend in me because this is not fucking Toy Story. All right, I don't need your poor ass in my life. So you're happy for Dreat that she has a friend?

Yes, yes. Or as I like to say it, opposite of no. By the way, I think the reason why everyone jumps on this is because the Fox force five, even though they're four now, they were really, they were real, they're getting really annoyed about being called. Now they're just down to three. Yeah, it's just Erica, Dorit, and Kyle,

because Teddy and Rinno were the other three. Yeah, it's just Erica, Dorit, and Kyle, because Teddy and Rin were the other ones. Yeah, you're right. Either way, they were all very, very sensitive about being called the Fox Force Five, being called a clique, and they would sort of respond by trying to own it, being like, here we are, the Fox Force Five, or they'd be like, we're not a clique. They hated it. They hated being called a clique because they were so obviously a clique and they it was so true it was so it's obvious to everyone everyone knows that they were a clique and They don't want to admit that they're a clique but they are that's why they get so mad about it So anytime they have an opportunity to sort of throw it back at someone else and get the clique heat off of them

Onto other people they will take take it 100% of the time. And just to be fair, the Fox force five is fucking annoying standing up for each other blindly as they do in this reunion and every reunion, but also Garcelle and Sutton are fucking annoying too. That she, that whole thing annoys me too with the like, you have to have my back, you have to have my back, you have to have my back,

you have to have my back, who has my back, who has my back? Like part of me is like, you you're adults. Everyone get over it. And the Dorit and Bo's thing does kind of get on my nerves too because it would be nice for Dorit to just be able to fight with somebody and not have somebody intelligent standing right there to speak for Dorit because Dorit couldn't handle most of this on her own. So it's kind of annoying all over the place, even though it's part of these shows. It's like a built-in part of these shows. So I just don't understand how they all get mad at each other when they all do it.

I mean, my hot take is I actually don't really mind the Bose and Dorit situation and I actually don't really mind the Garcel and Sutton thing. It's always annoying when they get into conversations about who has my, like, do you have my back? Do you have my back? Do you have my back? And it's sort of surprising because Sutton and, Sutton and Garcel never really talked like that before until this season. But I think the Fox force five was way more egregious because it was like a group of people and they were very sanctimonious and they repeatedly would run people off the show and they would attack people for things that they themselves were guilty of and whenever being confronted with the things that they do,

they get all like, how dare you about it? So I think that's also the big difference between it, but it is annoying when you get into conversations of like, you don't have my back, which is like, of course, like the Salt Lake City, you know. Yeah, that's the part I'm talking about. Yeah, but they all, you know, they all do it. That's part of the show.

So Kyle's, Bo's says that the most offensive part was where that she, that Garcelle said that Boze was being manipulated by Dorit and she's like, that's ridiculous. And Kyle goes, well, I didn't think she was being manipulated. Yeah, Kyle, okay. So, Boze is like, I mean, that's insulting to me. And if you think for one second there's anything that Dorit could say that would influence my opinion of you, then you don't think very much of yourself. And Garcels like, okay, okay. But what Garcels was saying is you're naturally going to have more of a

problem. Cause the only thing you know about these people is information. You're being fed by to read, which is natural. And you said yourself that when you got together with Garcelle, Garcelle would not feed you that information because she didn't want to color your experience. And you said, great, because that could have colored my experience. So now why can't you admit that hearing only information

from one other person could possibly color your experience? I mean, you just said the other argument five minutes ago. So, you know. I agree. So now we got a commercial break. And when we come back, uh, Andy dives into a sudden, uh, segment. So we see a montage. I'm not sudden. I mean, Garcell, they really are. They really are buzzing buddies cause I am mixing them up. So Garce, let me see Garcelle. She, guys, you won't believe it. I got a beach house,

a beach house in Oxnard. Wow, you got a beach house. There's a black girl missing. Part three, boys, we got the studio. We found her and she's in Oxnard. She built a beach house. It's a beach house, everyone. So then we moved to the juicier clips of Garcelle confronting Kyle about Morgan, saying, we tiptoe around Morgan. We don't know what that situation is and Kyle saying there is no situation maybe one day I'll have a great story to tell okay I hope you do I hope you do I hope you dance okay and he like, all right everyone, here it comes. A lot to on back there.

So on Entertainment Tonight, she said she wanted to see Sutton and Garcelle open up more about their real lives. And Erica's like, yeah, we want the Jesus Keep. What's happening? Garcelle's like, I wish there was more. I mean, I put in pretty cool tiling in my home, did I not? I mean, what else do you want from me? And Erica's like, that's what we're getting

at. You know, I'm not saying she's not telling us what's happening, but what are you doing? And she goes, there's nothing else to show. I'm showing you everything. Well, are you dating? Are you? Where's anybody's love life? Literally none of you? Come on. I don't believe it. Where are your friends, Erica? Who are the people in your life? Who do you hang out with? What are your hobbies? Do you do anything other than like get in makeup and like go to therapy? What about Marco Marco? What about your default in the Marco Marco case is going to get you in trouble again? What about you being sued for another $24 million because someone's about to prove that your ass knew all what Tom was doing all along to fund your stupid career? Come on. What about that? Why is that such a problem

to talk about this year? What about the way you parked in the pavilions parking lot, which I'm just assuming was poorly? I don't know if that, what do you want me to show? And Andy's like dating and they're like, yeah, are you getting a little? And she goes, no, I mean, I went on two dates with somebody. And so Andy's like, what do you guys want to see? And she goes, yeah, what more do you want? Like, there's nothing I'm not showing.

And you know, to be fair, Garcelle is showing what's going on in her life. She's been building a house for three years. She's been working and producing films and acting and a ton of stuff. I mean, she's busy. She is showing what she's doing. It may not be the most exciting content, but she is doing something.

And I would venture to say more than most of you. Yeah. And so Erica's like, no, I guess I just wish you were more interesting, I guess. And then Beau's like, boop, bo I just wish you were more interesting, I guess. And Bo's like, oh damn. Well, we can't all be living off the backs of orphans and widows, Erica. You know? We can't all be embroiled in scandal. And Garcelle's kind of like, I already had my

scandal. I've already been through this. I did this. That's passé. You're like, I'm farther ahead than you are. I've figured out my life and I'm like doing things. Well, she makes a good point where she's like, my divorce was before I came on the show and I was very open about it. I talked about the divorce. I talked about what happened. I talked about my feelings. I talked about my revenge on my husband. I talked about how it made my kids feel, how my kids are still dealing with it. Like, what the fuck? It's not like I didn't talk about it. What about yours, Erica? You're fucking lying, talking about not seeing Tom anymore and having nothing to do with any cases and saying you're completely out of the woods and all of this. What the fuck? And where's what I like, honestly, okay, I will even say this.

If she does not want to talk about these horrific scandals in her life, I mean, obviously we want to hear about it, but I'm just putting that to the side. Like there was stuff that had, like this was Erica's life on the show, even before the scandal. We don't see her with her son. We don't see her with, we just don't see her with anyone. And it's not interesting.

And then she says this about Garcelle and Garcelle's like, well, that's a shitty thing to say. And she goes, well, I think he kind of led me there. What? You can't blame Garcelle for what you just said. And she's like, well, I thought we were in a better place. She goes, well, we are. She goes, no, we're not. If you say something like that.

She goes, well, I think so. Our experience, my experience, Calendari's experience, going through all these really ugly public divorces and coming apart. She was like, what do you want me to do? Like, it's not my fault. My ugly divorce came earlier. Want me to like date someone for, you know, like I have a fake relationship,

but just so I could break up with them to be on the show. Yeah, maybe she could just date a man 50 years her senior for his money and then, you know, have a big fake pop career that she's paid for and then have it all come crashing down when it turns out she's been buried to a fucking criminal the whole time. Like not everybody gets that exciting of a life Eric. Okay.

She wasn't pulled off a pole and put on a pedestal. Like what the fuck do you want? So well, I was open. I've been open, you know, and Kyle's like, well, my issue with you is that you say Kyle's not been showing us her life and I've showed so much of my life, you know? Have you? Really? She talks about her sisters. Yeah, you've thrown your sisters under the bus. You've had no problems talking openly about their problems, their shit going on, but we haven't really heard that much. We still don't know why you left your husband. We still don't know if he cheated. We still don't know if he's even dating anybody. We

still don't know if you're dating Morgan. We don't know what's going on with your children. Well, what the fuck are you talking about, Kyle? Yeah, I will allow that Kyle has shared stuff in her life in the past. But now that there's something actively happening in her life that she won't talk about it when she was so vicious and relentless with other people on this show that since left because they just couldn't even deal with it anymore it was like not worth it to them Lisa Vanderpump Denise Richards others you know like that's where it's frustrating it's not that like just because you shared something five years ago doesn't

mean that you're you're you're off the hook for not like really avoiding what's going on your life this season, you know? And so Kyle is though, she sees this as an opening where she can deflect from her shit and just attack Garcelle. Right, because nobody wants to see more from Garcelle. That's not the point. They're calling Garcelle boring because Kyle doesn't want to answer

whether she's a lesbian right now. That's it. That's this whole thing and everybody knows it. And Kyle's doing this like, well, what do you want me to tell you? What more do you want from me? Like having this big fit. And Erica goes, yeah, that's how we feel. We've just been so awkward. We've been so destroyed. You destroyed your damn self. Okay. You destroyed your damn self and your husband destroyed you. So stop with this. So Kyle's like, I mean, literally

turning the camera, tuning the camera out and never even thinking about the cameras being there. Do you have my right side or my left? Okay. Do it again. That's how much we've done this. Okay, Kyle, Kyle saying, Kyle saying, Oh, my god, you realize like, I'm not even thinking about the cameras being there. Let's rewind to the top of the episode. Doreet, how did you not know that cat you smoking camera or cameras are there? We all know the cameras are right there.

So she's both very aware of the cameras, but she tunes them out. She doesn't remember they're even there. So Garcelle brings up that last year, Morgan was part of the show and they met her. So what's the problem with bringing that up? And so we see the flashback to Kyle tattooing the K onto Morgan and being like, I tattooed the K on you. Yeah, she stalked me. She stalked me. Yeah, I totally decay on you. Yeah. She stopped being she stopped me. Yeah. I made a couple of albums about her stalker.

Mitch with the clip. I mean, you know, listen, listen, Morgan did not sign up for the show. She did not want to be part of it. And she's not part of the cast. And Chris was like, well, she didn't sign up this season, but she was on before. She's fair game. And I was like, okay, she came on as a favor to me, because I to her, it was, I want her to come on as a favor to me, to be someone on the show for no reason, because there's no relationship between us. What was the favor? Why, why did you want her on the show then? Cause what ensued after that created a lot of anxiety for her. She didn't ask for this life. And I'm trying to be respectful of someone who didn't sign up for it. You know, your son didn't want to be part of the show this

season. And I respect that. I'm actually very hurt by you this season. Like, well, I was hurt by you. Okay, now I have to say just to be fair, because Kyle makes me fucking crazy. I like that DeRite asks her about this. Not DeRite, Garcelle asked her about this, but it did get old. It got to be too much for me where I was just like, okay, like this final one of like,'s talk about Morgan again, like enough. You've already done it two other times this season She said she doesn't want to talk about it Like I get how Kyle wouldn't want to talk about it and have how she would be annoyed But I also get that you were the one who brought it on camera in the first place, you know

But I did think Garcelle went a little far with that personally I mean, I think that like in normal life, if it was just like a group of friends, she did go far. But for this show, I don't think so because Kyle is happy to use the platform to talk about who Mauricio is like banging or whatever and talks about Mauricio. And by the way, and as she should, because, you know, like. Yeah, as she should. I fully support that. But then, um, what it is is that Kyle paints a picture of herself in a certain way and Garcelle's like, well, but you have to like, but there's more to this story and you're just creating a narrative on this

platform that's going out to America. But like, what is, but what's the rest of the story? And it's like frustrating that they have to tip toe around. Kyle never has any problem asking nosy ass questions about people. But suddenly they can't ask nosy questions to Kyle. And I think that- Especially about sexuality as you already brought up Denise and Brandy's lie, that Kyle brought Brandy on to tell. So like in a normal social situation, yeah, Garcelle's being tacky as fuck. But honestly, I think that at the end of it, at the end of the day, Garcelle does not really care about Kyle. So she's just happy to make Kyle uncomfortable. I think she's always enjoyed doing that. She

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or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Even the Royals early and ad free by joining Wondery Plus. So basically this turns into Garcelle saying, look, this is something everybody's talking about. You're in all the magazines on purpose. So it would look hypocritical for everybody here to just ignore it.

Like, why aren't we allowed to ask? And then you go on the after, you pretend you're okay when we're shooting it. Like I made that lesbian comment at the Chuck E. Cheese and you laughed about it. And then we see the clip of her being like, Kyle, be who you wanna be. If you wanna be a lesbian, be a lesbian.

And Kyle cracking up and she's like, and then you were fine with it. And I wasn't even being catty. I was just telling you, Kyle, no one will care. We support you. The fans will support you. Everybody's gonna support this. You're making it more difficult.

And she goes, and then you acted like you were fine and then on the after show you went and you called me an asshole. So what's that about? Yeah, which also to be fair to Kyle, you're allowed to say, I think Kyle is allowed to call Garcelle an asshole because how many times have especially like how many

times have you been confronted about like an uncomfortable situation and then you laugh it off and then she really like what an asshole for putting me in that situation. I actually think Kyle was allowed to say that. And Kyle's like, well, what was going through my head is that you're being an asshole right now. She goes, well, you know, that wasn't you said that intentionally. She goes, well, it just be who you want to be. Stop worrying what other people think. And Andy's like, do you think that's what she's doing? And she's like, yeah, she's just trying because Kyle does care about what people think. And she's very concerned about all that, which is why she's being protective about it, which is why she doesn't want to talk about it on camera.

So she's like, you were trying to embarrass me. That was an asshole move, which you shouldn't be embarrassed anyway. So I don't think she was trying to be embarrassed. Yeah. Garcelle's like, look, you can have your opinion. And anyway, it's not about, if Kyle had called her an asshole right then, it wouldn't have been a thing. It's that Kyle acts like she's okay and then she's too faced. She goes and then to a different camera calls you an asshole, whereas Garcelle just says all right to your face. So then she's like, and then you got mad at Sutton for not jumping on the bandwagon. And she goes, well, because Sutton didn't have my back and that's between me and Sutton. So that's between us, period.

And she goes, well, you're saying that she didn't have your back to come after me. She goes, no, she didn't have my back to support me not come after you. No, support you in coming after me. Well, Kyle, if you watch the show as you clearly studied it, you would know that Sutton had just had a conversation with Garcelle where she said, yeah, Kyle needs to be confronted about that. And then acting so innocent when it was brought up. That's why she wasn't being supported. She actively sat there and made a plan to come talk about it with you and then was stabbed

at the last second to get your great, getting your good graces. Yeah. And so Sutton's like, well, you know what, you know, she didn't want to talk about Morgan and she want to bring that up. So I didn't bring it up. Well, if Morgan had not been on the show prior, then I think it would have been okay to say, well, it's part of my life. That's not that's off the table and kind of goes, but that's not that's not her place. She didn't sign the contract to be there. I did. But again, it just never I don't feel like I'm sure if we go back,

we can find plenty of times where Kyle has a lot to say about people. I mean, honestly, everything with Denise and I always go back to the Denise thing. Cause I feel like the Denise like witch hunt was really one of the most like gross things that that click ever did. And here they are on camera. Well, actually nevermind. I'm taking taking this back because I was going to say they're happy to revel in like this lesbian affair with Denise and Brandi. And I was like Brandi wasn't part of the show. But then I remember Brandi was the one who came to the camera and was like, Kyle brought

her to the camera. Don't you remember? Kim's like, Oh, man, Brandi, we're just in the neighborhood. We can't buy Brandi tell her. And then Brandi told her on camera that I acted all shocked and had to take it to everybody else. That's actually even worse than what Garcelle's doing

because Garcelle's merely asking questions. Like, can you give some context to this? Right, she's not bringing on some ex-lover of Morgan's or something. Yeah, Kyle, like, yeah, she did not bring Morgan onto the show, she not, any of that, you know, like Kyle did like a dirty deed that season, like a dirty, dirty deed. And then spent the rest of the season going,

but Brandi never lies. Brandi's not a liar. Brandi wouldn't lie. Brandi's a truth teller. Exactly. She asked her what she thinks about Brandi these days. So, um... Like I just said, Sutton's been talking about this shit for seasons. And to act like she isn't,

like we haven't seen it on TV is ridiculous. Like Kyle says she didn't wanna talk about it, so fine. Then why would you have to see them saying, and then what about Kyle not talking about this and that? I mean, come on. And I think the thing, to go back to the Morgan thing, because why should we ever talk about anything else? I think what's also probably frustrating for Garcello is that Kyle is on camera

talking about, Oh my God, I'm realizing that Marissa has really moved on and Oh, it's really real now. And those are, those are probably all completely real and valid feelings. Like she probably genuinely feels that way. And that is hard to go through, but she's, she's painting a narrative. She's all alone, all by herself when it's like, but you like, there's this situation with Morgan Wade, which maybe she's dating her, maybe she's not, but it seems like there's a relationship. And at the very least there's a very close friendship and, and like you're

painting a narrative, like you're all alone in this, in this situation, but like, actually you're out there. Also having some fun. It seems like, and if you're out there also having some fun, it seems like. And if you're not having fun, then clarify it. So, then it turns to, well, why were you just saying that I wasn't standing up for Sutton? Because then you said that, that like, you know, when Sutton was getting in trouble at the table and everybody was coming for Sutton, and then I didn't say anything, you

got mad at me for not standing up for her, but you didn't stand up for her and no one else stood up for her. Why is it me? Why is it always me? Why? Why? Why is it me? She's going nuts and Garcelle is basically like, because she wants it more from you. So she's expecting it from more from you because she knows she'll get it from me. You know, like she knows that I support her, but she doesn't know if you support her and then you stay there and like she is sitting there asking you to support and you don't do it. And I didn't do it because the moment that I do it, everyone goes, Oh, there they are again,

the two of it's like it's Garcelle and Sutton. Garcelle is the mouthpiece again. Yeah, I think Garcelle is kind of so thrown off by all of this that she's not really standing up for herself very well, you know? Because she's not pointing out a lot of things that are going on. Like, she didn't point out what you just said, which is, I'm always standing up for Sutton. I was giving Sutton a chance to see if you were going to stand up for her or not,

if I didn't stand up for her for one scene out of nine million scenes. And you didn't. And that's the point. That's the point I was trying to make for Sutton. You're trying to win Kyle's approval. Kyle does not give a shit about you when you don't. And that's the point. That's the point I was trying to make for Sutton. You're trying to win Kyle's approval. Kyle does not give a shit about you when you don't care about my approval because you know that you've automatically got it and I will always stand up for you.

I wish Garcelle kind of had a better defense to some of this stuff. Yeah, she definitely was caught off guard because she was not expecting to be in the hot seat. She thought she was just going to be there and chime in and say things and support Sutton. And she didn't realize that this was going to be a, this would be such a moment, right?

So Kyle does her whole like Jennifer Tilly didn't stand up for her. What did I do to deserve it? What did I do? And so Garcelle just says, okay, well, I'm sorry about that. She was, I mean, I don't know. It's like, who do you trust? You know, like, who do you trust? Oh, well, surely you could trust your best friend who's texting your ex behind your back, surely. So. I know. But I know the feeling it's not nice. And I think that's why I gritted-hearted towards Boze.

She was so real. I didn't feel like I had to question it ever. Garcelle goes, good. Andy's like. Okay, now we move to the big one, which is Dree. How do you feel seeing what Garcel said about someone orchestrating the break-in? There was no music. That's silly.

Gotcha, bitch. Gotcha, cool. Bitch! Got your coooolt! If you're insinuating that Debra herself set this up for an insurance scam, you're sadly mistaken. No do the bill here! So she's like, I don't done this. Now here's the thing, before we even get into all of this, Garcelle, if you are gonna say that somebody, or that that was bullshit, you are gonna have to take it at the reunion. And that's just it. Like she's not, in this section,

and I don't mean this for the rest of the reunion, but for this section, you said it, take the heat. You're gonna have to take the heat. I liked her, well, I mean, when she said, I never said it was you said it, take the heat. You're going to have to take the heat. I liked her. Well, I mean, when she said, I never said it was you or PK, I mean, that was kind of bullshitty, but I liked what she ultimately said. I think she stood very well for herself. I liked that she did not back down in this section.

But later when she gets upset, like they're all coming for me. Well, yeah. I mean, if you say something like that, you have to be prepared to go to the reunion and be ready for her to go on a self-righteous terror against you, because she's going to. And a lot of the audience will join her. And I like that Garcelle is brave enough to be like, it's bullshit.

That's why I said it. So she's like, I don't understand the obsession about one of the most traumatic things in me, belief, something I suffered terribly for two and a half years. And she goes, well, that's my feeling. And that's the last time I'm going to talk about it. Well, hallelujah, because you have not stopped talking about it since it happened.

She goes, oh, please, I talked about it twice. And you feel it was a setup. Yeah, I do. I feel how I feel. I mean, what am I supposed to do? Just. It's. Detective Greswell and all of this. Set up. Yeah, I do. I feel how I feel. I mean, what am I supposed to do? Listen, I've been,

I've become an expert in detective movies lately and my expert sound self says it's a setup. And so Doreen's like, well, it's based on nothing. Well, I don't want to talk about your finances. It's just my instincts. And also it's not based on nothing, Deree. You have a very, very long history with your husband of shady dealing and grifting and not paying people and then break-ins and robberies and all this shit seems to always be happening to you. And then even last year you had that mysterious $10,000 that went missing from your purse and a Target.

No, a Home Depot. No, a Home Goods. No, a Marshall's. Come on. It's not based on nothing. It's based on your history, Duree. And it's not only four people on Twitter who doubted your story. A lot of people still to this day doubt all of your stories because you're full of shit and so is your husband. So that's what it's based on, ma'am. Well, I mean here, I mean, look, she's getting activated because she is interpreting this as you were doubting my trauma. And I don't think anyone doubts the trauma. I think we all believe that she was went through a horrific, horrific thing,

but I think we all think that there's, there is a chance that like she was not aware that this was a setup in some way. This was something that had gone wrong. There was a lot of fishy that went on there. It's fishy we don't- It's completely gauche to say that she did that because it was traumatic if it happened. It is gauche to say it, but people who follow this show and follow the news off of this show would think that it's fishy.

It's not the first time they've been robbed. It's not, I mean, it's not crazy to think that this is fishy. Now to say it, I think takes extreme balls. Because even me, and listen, I love getting deep into this stuff and thinking like, that's not true. That never happened. I love a good conspiracy. Even I was like, I'm not going to go there. Even though, of course, I think it's fishy. Of course it is just because of who they are. But I'm still not ready to say it's a lie. I don't know that it's a lie, you know? I don't know if it's a lie either. So I'm not going to say that. I think fishy is fair to say.

Yeah. Fishy. I think we settle. I think we feel good about it. I think the word of the day is fishy. We have decided we're going to land in a place of fishiness. And in terms of trauma, you got to just give it to the person. It doesn't, like, it's not a big enough hill to die on for me. Right. If that happened and you say, no, it didn't happen, that's crazy if that did actually happen to somebody.

So even I won't say that. So I actually kind of respected the balls that Garcels is just like, sorry, I don't buy it. Maybe Garcels should have just said, I think it's fishy. Not like it was a setup, but I think it's fishy. But Dorita is like very upset about this. Maybe she's protesting too much, who knows. And don't get me wrong, I'm glad Garcelle said something

and I'm glad how she's standing up for herself. I'm just saying if you're gonna say it, be prepared because you're gonna get a lot of blowback. Right, and again, this is a cast that is very fragile because on Salt Lake City or Potomac or Atlanta or even New Jersey, this is like child's play. It's child's play to say, I think that this break-in was a setup. That's like nothing to those casts, but here they're like, how could you say it? She said on Mary De Medicine, one cast member actually accused another of robbing her home,

of setting up people to rob her home, an elitism to Toya. Yes. Yes, exactly. So, Darude's like, you can say it so casually, not considering once how it might make me, my husband, our family, our deluxe pack of Pringles feel about this Garcelle that's absolutely inconceivable. Do you know how the minority help felt about it? Absolutely disgusting of you! And Garcelle's like, well, I'm sorry it hurts you. It's how I feel. And Buzz just goes, wow, wow. I like Garcelle's like, well, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's kind of like, wow, wow. I like ourselves like, well, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's kind of like, well, you can't argue with that. She's like, I'm sorry, but if I'm wrong, that's my opinion. And so he's like, so you think

it's because the guys gave back the cell phone and she says, well, yeah, and it was also because I don't put the alarm on at night because the kids run around. I mean, most people's alarm, you can put the alarm on and be in the home. Oh, you think my husband would orchestrate? Have you seen him? He hired Berlin. And Garcelle's like, well, I didn't say you were your husband. Don't put that in my mouth. Well, you intimated. Well, I did not. I did not. I mean, you did. They did. Of course, who else orchestrated it? I mean, I think the orchestration, the hint that was that it was PK who did it was the theory. She did never technically say it.

Yeah, I agree. And Garcelle's like, no, I said that I don't think Dorit knew anything about it. And we do see a flashback of her saying, I don't think Dorit knew anything about it, but something is going on there. And Garcelle's like, you know what, I'm done talking about it. This is how I feel. And this is how I feel. And Drew's like, well, I'm going to at least tell you how I feel. And she goes, well, I know how you feel because you never shut up. Listen, my husband must be a sociopath and not give a shit about his family whatsoever that he would send men into our home at night with my children sleeping in the house. And he would put me through that trauma. I mean, the only person who would ever do such a thing would have to be such a severe alcoholic to be so in a not a proper place of thinking to do such a thing. And if there's one

thing that we know about PK, I can't talk about it, unfortunately. So next question. Yeah. And for Dorit to say, oh, he must be a sociopath and not give a shit about his family whatsoever. Well, didn't you say that PK never sees the kids, he never calls the kids. When you were at your lowest point going through trauma, he didn't care. He ignored you. He wanted you to shut up. We saw him on camera say, it's more, it's not even trauma, it's just being annoying or whatever he said on camera.

So you spent a lot of time telling us and PK has taken a lot of time showing us that he doesn't give a fuck. So I don't know what argument you're trying to say, but you've been arguing against yourself for the entire season painting him as a piece of shit who doesn't care about his children or you. So Grosel was like, was I the only one who felt that way? He says, well, you tell me who else. Four other people from Twitter. And Garcelle's like, okay, fine. Even though it was like more than four people for sure. Yeah, it was a lot more than four people.

So, Boz is like, well, that's a difficult thing to say without any proof at all. So, that has enormous repercussions and it's dangerous to say, really, really terrible. She's like, okay, I apologize. Nothing, zero, I mean zero. And then he's like, all right, okay. So I was gonna ask where you stand today,

but a few steps forward and a few Prinkle cans back. I'm all right. So they all get up to go to their dressing rooms. And Garth's like, can I just go home to Oxnard? And so then they all go into their dressing rooms and Sutton is like, well, everybody hates me. Like everybody, I think I'm gonna start to cry. And Kyle's like, oh, we haven't even started on you yet.

Yeah. You're fine. Yeah, you have a long reunion ahead of you, ma'am. So Garcelle is upset and Sutton comes to check on her and she's like, look, I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't. I can't say how I feel, I can't say how I think. I have to tiptoe and I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Now look, I agree that this was not great for you, but this is kind of the first time Garcelle's really taken heat in a reunion. And at this point, I don't know

what happens the rest of the reunion, right? But at this point, I'm like, buck up because you're a real housewife. And if you're going to go say that you think someone's robbery was bullshit, you have to be prepared for this. You can't be like, oh, I can't believe it. You know, come on now. Like, stick with it. We're rooting for you. This is kind of a Vanderpump moment where I'm like, I'm rooting for you. Do not, do not go down. I'm rooting for you. So part of me is like, buck up,

get back in the ring and let's go. I know they needed someone really tenacious, you know. So I'm about to sneeze. I'm about to sneeze. So you talk. So now we go to Bose and Dorit talking and they're talking about Garcelle, obviously. And she's like, oh, this Garcelle situation. I mean, this is not casual.

We're talking about a crime. Welcome to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, babe. I mean, welcome to Real Housewives in general. This is not unheard of here. And she's like, you can't say those things without repercussions, which I got. And then Garcelle is going like, I'm the bad guy. So he goes, Oh, don't worry. We're the bad guy. We're the bad guys. Well, we're the mean girls, apparently. Oh, we didn't even, I think we somehow missed the fact that during, when Kyle was getting mad at Garcelle, Kyle had the balls to say,

you guys, you and Sutton are mean girls. I could not believe my ears. That was actually the most inflammatory thing I felt like was the entire episode, because I think Kyle has been waiting to shed that reputation and to push it onto someone else. Because that's the most offensive thing anyone has ever said to Kyle is calling her a mean girl. She's never been able to let it onto someone else. Because that's the most offensive thing anyone has ever said to Kyle is calling her a mean

girl. She's never been able to let it go. And now she's trying to put it on somebody else. No, Kyle, you're still the mean girl. You still are. She was trying to change that narrative up. And when she tried to do that to Garcelle and Sutton, is Sutton mean? Yes.

Is Garcelle, can Garcelle be mean? Yes. Are they mean girls? No, you guys are the mean girls. And so when she tried to do that, I can't believe we missed that. I think we were in a frenzy because that was like definitely peak frenziness for us. But when she said that, I was like, you have to be fucking kidding me. That actually bothered me more than Erica saying that Garcel was not interesting because like, you know, there is a there is some truth in Erica saying it, just we don't feel like Erica should be the one to say it.

And also we don't feel like that should be something that Garcelle should be prosecuted over. However, Kyle calling Sudden and Garcelle Mean Girls, that was wildly offensive to me. So Garcelle's like, well, I'm not taking that on. You can say anything you want, but I'm not taking it because I know who I am. And when she said, be more interesting, oh, fuck you, Erika, fuck you, because I'm not going through a divorce because I didn't have criminal activity, that I work, that I'm self-made, that I don't have a rich husband, that I wasn't born with the silver spoon in my mouth. Yeah, that's what you need to say out there. You don't need to say that in here. You need to say that right to their

faces because fuck those ladies for saying that shit to you. And you're absolutely right in this defense. And this is what you need on the stage, man. Yeah, this is when it's time for her to shoot the moon. And as well as she's there, she doesn't have a rich husband either. I'm sorry. Fucker. Fucker.

But yeah, shoot the moon on the stage. And as long as you're going down the path, as long as you're doing, you're going to take the role of I'm going to the and now we've said it role of like, I'm going to take the role of I'm going to the end. Now we've set it role of like, I'm going to say the thing. I'm going to say the thing that I think it might be a setup. I'm going to say like, what about Morgan Wade? We're all like, everyone knows about it, but we're not talking about it. I'm going to say, as long as you're going to do that, then go all the way and bring this energy all the way there. And like, don't worry about how it might make you look to worry about it being rude. Cause at this point you've already sort of gone down that path and just confront everyone

with the things that they don't want to be confronted with because the audience has your back. And I think that there's other things going on here because we, you know, this is the first black woman to ever be on Beverly Hills and there is a certain, you know, there have been storylines where it's like she says one thing, you know, and there's microaggressions thrown at her.

It's like it's an attack. You know what I mean? It's an attack. Right, it's an attack or whatever else. And so she's probably not wanting to go too low You know, and there's microaggressions thrown at her. You know what I mean? An attack. Right. It's an attack or whatever else. And so she's probably not wanting to go too low because she's like, if I don't keep my composure, the next thing they're going to call me is angry or whatever else they're going to throw at me, you know, like they've done before.

So she's, you know, I can see that there's kind of a line that she's walking. So I want to acknowledge that that's there too. And I guess that would be hard because as a fan, you just wanna see her go for it. And you're like, no, fuck you. You're a fucking criminal and your husband's a fucking criminal. And you, Erica, and when you were confronted

with what happened to the victims, you said, I don't give a fuck about anybody but myself. Does that make you more interesting? Does it make you more interesting that you're trying to hold onto diamond earrings like you petty ass that were bought with stolen money that you know was stolen and that when we said that there are victims and you said, well, we don't know that there are victims like fuck you. Does that make you interesting? You fucking crook. But you know, for her to actually go there, you know, that's a bigger

choice in her mind because there's repercussions of the ladies in how they're gonna treat her and label her after that. So I get how she's probably feeling frustrated and like you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. But as a friend, as a good friend to Garcelle, as a fan, I really want to see her just let these witches have it because Erika especially. Erika especially, especially how dare you ma'am. Oh my God.

Yeah, that would be really sensational. Anyway, that's it. That was the end of the episode. So this is a good reunion so far, by the way, I would like to say it's been really good and we have more to come next week. So thank you all for being here. We will catch you on the next episode and yeah, bye everyone. Bye! Watch What Crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alice in King.

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