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Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Oh, hello everybody and welcome to Watch What Crappens.
I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there.
Hello, Ben.
Hi, darling.
How are you?
What's going on with you today?
Not much.
You know, I'm just here luxuriating in my childhood bedroom after enjoying a lovely
Passover meal last night where there's plenty of delicious and wonderful food.
What's going on with you?
Nothing, just chilling after getting back, having fun.
Bueller's sleeping behind me, just getting ready to talk about a little top shuffiest.
Everybody, thank you for coming out to
Boston, Detroit, and Chicago. What a great weekend we had. We will be in Texas next, in Dallas,
and in Austin, and then we're going to be in Vegas. And we've got another couple shows,
you know, later, but we have not signed any contracts yet, so we can't announce them. But
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where you find ticket links and also links to Patreon, which is where you find video recaps
and bony episodes. Right now there's a two-part White Lotus Up, so go check that out.
And today we are with Top Chef. How do you feel about Top Chef so far this season? We have not
been covering this one. So how are you feeling?
I love it so far.
I think there's a really good cast.
I like the challenges.
I've been upset by some of the people who have gone home, but you know, such is life.
I'm into it.
How do you feel?
I feel like Top Chef is a little bit too much.
It's up its own ass lately.
I think it's like too snotty.
I don't think it's very fun.
I need more fun in my top chef
and I need more crazy characters.
Like I get that they're like, I work for so-and-so
and I work for Balloon and I've got a Michelin,
bleh, bleh, bleh.
I mean, I get it, but I need more than that.
I need like maybe half that and then half chili chefs.
Mm, yeah.
I feel like I really like that it's up its own ass
because I generally like things that are up its own ass.
That's why the loss of Padma was so hard,
although she hasn't really left us because as we all know,
her ghost haunts every episode of Top Chef.
So she's always with us.
But like the thing is,
I've been so burned. I've been so traumatized by endless episodes of Chopped and whatever else is
on like Fox that like I'm really happy to not watch like random line chefs at like the holiday
end compete over who can like turn a box of Cheerios and bubblegum into a gourmet meal.
Like give me the fine dining chefs who are up their own asses,
cause I like to make fun of that more.
Okay, well there you go.
You man, you got it.
You got what you wanted.
The world gave you exactly what you wanted.
So there's that, we did get a taste of Padma this week
or last week rather, because she had a Tiki-Taki,
I think or an Instagram, I don't know, some video
where she just ripped into these like TikTok reviewers. And she's
like, well, I just wanted to say, I've watched these two girls on Tikki-Tocky, little bitches
coming for a Southeast Asian restaurant. That food isn't made for you. It's made for us.
Sorry, you don't get it, dummies. It was amazing. I'm rejecting you like every man
who's ever had a prom invitation in his hand and seen Gail coming down the hallway.
I'll also say what other kind of food was not meant for you.
The hubcap on the street Gail, not for you to eat. Doesn't stop her though, bless her heart.
Not for you to eat. Doesn't stop her though, bless her heart.
So here we go, little Top Chef.
This is season 22, episode five.
Very important, Ronnie.
Sorry to interrupt.
As this is our first proper recap of a Top Chef episode,
we have to do our traditional disclaimer
that we do once per season at the very top of it,
which is we love Gail Simmons.
We think she's absolutely
beautiful. And our joke is that we think that Padma thinks that Gail is a monster, but we don't
personally believe that. And so that is your disclaimer for the season that we do every
single year. Why are they so mean to Gail? We're not mean to Gail. Padma is mean to Gail. Ghost Padma is mean to Gail.
Ghost Padma.
Because Ghost Padma is with us.
Yes.
Which is why Daniel Belude finally choked her
with a chicken bone and she's a ghost now.
Okay?
So this is 22 episode five, line cook for a day.
So we get Kristin doing her voiceover.
There's 11 chefs, 11 chefs remain. And it's the ultimate
culinary showdown, as we all know. Now, the grand prize is a quarter of a million, which is pretty
good. Saratoga Springs, still don't know who you are, even though you've been doing this a few years,
never seen you in the airport. So are you anything?
Pete Slauson They're having a moment right now, actually,
on the internet, believe it or not. I don't know if you've seen this.
Jared Slauson Are they? Why?
Pete Slauson Yes, they are. Because there's this fitness influencer named Ashton Hall. He's about
three feet tall and he's like this muscle-clad guy and he posted this ridiculous video of
him doing like, this is my daily routine. I wake up at 3.30 in the morning and I do
push-ups on my balcony, like clearly like a rented penthouse somewhere. He does push-ups
and then he takes Saratoga water and he pours into a bowl and he dunks his face in the bowl
And he does this like five different times with the course of the video and it's like everything's like a timestamp
It'll be like then I go for a swim at 335 beat the a.m.
And then at 345 a.m. I dug my face in again at one point
It takes like a banana peel and rubs it all over his face
It's just like one of the most ridiculous influencer things because no one does this
and this guy doesn't even do this.
It's like you clearly, you rented a penthouse for the evening, you shot your content and
you created this ridiculous story of filling a bowl of Saratoga spring water.
And the thing is though, is that everyone's doing parody videos of it.
So everyone's buying Saratoga spring water for their parody videos.
And then people are also just genuinely trying this like,
oh, maybe this would have to do,
fill my bowl, fill a bowl up with Saratoga spring water
and dunk my face into it.
So it just goes to show you can underwrite 25 seasons,
feels like 25 years of Top Chef to get your promo
or one fitness influencer can just decide
to put his face in a bowl of you and you get really all your value is worth for free.
Yeah, God, no kidding. It really worked about with that tiki-taki.
It's wild.
So Delta Sky, my, so now look, I'm glad they upped the prize to 250 a few years ago because
it was so long at 100, it was sad. So it was nice that they upped the prize, but you know,
I didn't realize it, I think until I was watching this and it was nice that they upped the price, but you know, I didn't realize it,
I think until I was watching this and paying attention,
that now they also get Delta Sky Miles
diamond medallion status.
That's amazing.
And 125,000 to spend on travel with Delta.
That is amazing.
So that's quite a lot of control.
Can I tell you something?
Okay, Ronnie knows this.
This is my, this is my cross-debate.
So the funniest thing happened over the weekend. Funny to me, maybe, maybe this
will be a terrible story, but, um, uh, I am in the process of transferring my airplane
loyalty from American airlines to Delta airlines. And you know, last year we went to Europe
and everything. So I got like a ton of like status on American,
like super high status, which was great. I've been feeling like Mr. Monopoly all year long.
And I'm actually acting like it's a value judgment. Like, I'm like, well, I have this elite status now.
But anyway, people have been telling me you can do like a status match on Delta. And if you tell
them you have like, you have the status on American Airlines, they'll give you the high status on Delta.
I was like, great.
I've decided I'm going to switch over to Delta because also American Airlines
kind of shitty, really shitty.
It's like you get to that nice status and all they serve you is like
cafeteria food. So I was like, I want to go to Delta because everyone says Delta
is so nice. I want to go to Delta.
So last week before our travels to Boston and Detroit and everything, my friend
is like, by the way, I can give you a gold status, which is like the number two tier
on Delta. And I was like, cool, I'll take that. Like mom, that's cool. So I take it.
I have it, like get it on Wednesday or Wednesday or Thursday. And then on Saturday, I was like,
you know what? I'm going to finally do this Delta status match thing because Delta is
awesome. So I fill it out. I'm like, I'm going to do this whole thing.
I'm so excited. And then Delta responds back to me and is like, thank you so much for like wanting
to be like a status match with us. But unfortunately, it appears that you've had a complimentary
medallion status in the past three years. So you can't have your status. So basically, because I had this gold status for all of 48 hours, I completely invalidated
having super fancy Delta status with a status match.
And I am just here to tell you, I'm really frustrated by it.
And hearing that the Top Chef people get to get this nice status, and I shot myself in
the foot with it, it really hurts me.
Well, which status would you have gotten with your points?
I think I might have gotten diamond.
It was really high on American.
I think I could have been like a top chef winner.
I mean, no offense.
I don't want to diss your points or anything,
but I think diamond is like,
you spend a million dollars on there.
Oh, well, whatever.
That's big.
Whatever it is.
Gold is only second.
They've got so many things now.
I just feel like I'm very fancy.
I just, I can't believe that my 48 hours
of having gold status has now destroyed my chance
to be like Padma Lakshmi level status on Delta Airlines.
It's really sad.
Well, it's pretty good, right?
Diamond medallious plus 125 grand.
It's great.
It's great.
It's so hard to get status.
So hard.
Anyway, so they also now get to headline their own dinner at the historic James Beard house
in New York.
Wow, James Beard. Hope Gale doesn't eat the beard off of him. Get it? Sorry. A little
rusty after being in heaven for so long.
So now we're in the stew room because we're finding out who got kicked off last week and
Mossimo's upset because he didn't do that great. And he's like, something I didn't
do today. I worked hard. I didn't cook smart, okay.
And he's very intense.
And we find out it was Zuber,
which I knew it was gonna be Zuber.
Whenever he came out, remember a couple of weeks ago
when he had that fried chicken sandwich,
and he's like, this sandwich made me,
it was named the most popular sandwich in Boston,
and I'm pulling out the big guns for this.
And he won that challenge, but I was like, he's done.
He's used up his only trick in his bag,
which is that famous chicken sandwich.
And now he's dead.
And here he is, dead as a door now.
Goodbye, Zubair, we hardly knew ye.
He also fell victim to the Ben Mandelker curse,
which is when I see Zubair see like at the top of last episode,
I was like, you know, Zubair, I really like him.
I think he's gonna go to the finals.
And anytime I have that thought about literally anyone
on Top Chef is the moment that they go home.
I have this amazing ability
to like ruin their Top Chef careers.
No, I'm pretty good because spoiler alert,
I'm gonna say he gets kicked off.
If you don't wanna hear, fast forward a minute and a half.
But when that chick, when Anna Gasteyer made
that Nutella sandwich, that deep fried Nutella sandwich
last week, I was like, I don't care what the judges say,
she's gonna last an episode.
There's no way they're gonna keep
a Nutella sandwich winner on forever.
And sure enough, they got rid of her.
Yeah, you can't do that.
And they loved it.
I'll smash a minute this far. They did love that. But I think at some got rid of her. Yeah, you can't do that. And they loved it. I'm supposed to admit it this far.
They did love that.
But I think at some point, the producers were like,
a Nutella sandwich on white bread, deep fried?
No.
No.
So, Shwe, Shwe was in the bottom.
He's also been really good.
He was in the bottom.
And so, he's saying how, like,
he's very self-aware of his downfalls
and he's not gonna beat himself down for the mistakes he made because he can only learn
and be better for it. So then they're all just sitting there and then Chris, how do
you learn from it if you don't beat yourself down about it? I don't know. I mean, what
the hell you need to beat yourself up. Talk about what a piece of shit you are. Get addicted
to something terrible, ruin a couple of years. Then you come out of it. And then you have
this whole like, I ruined my life. I got hooked on heroin, but now I know how to make a good
Nutella sandwich. Boom! Do I have to teach you how to do this? Have you just started
watching this show?
So, Kristen comes in, she's like, hi chefs, before we call it a night, we do have a little
bit of business to handle. First and foremost, I hear there is a sale on formal vests, so
I may be heading out early today
because my wardrobe still needs some work.
And there will be no quick fire challenge tomorrow.
Do you notice that she's always wearing like a suit vest?
Like that's kind of her look.
It's amazing.
You don't like her wardrobe?
Oh my God.
I'm surprised she wears anything.
I'd literally walk in wearing a fork if I looked like that.
She looks amazing.
I just think it's funny that she was wearing a suit vest.
She's badass.
She's got badass.
That's her personal style.
She's like, I wanted to look like I rode a motorcycle in today.
They're like, okay.
But also might have a job interview later.
They're like, okay.
I'm ready.
She's like, Toronto is one of the most multicultural cities in the world and neighborhoods
like Greetown, Little Portugal, Little Jamaica, and several Chinatowns.
And then-
She sounds like Tom's son.
She learned her on-air persona.
She had media training with Tom's son.
It's like Guy Fieri bringing his son to host
that other cooking show and his poor son
still doesn't have the hang of it.
He's just standing off the stage like,
wow, wow, Brooke, so you're on the show.
Remember when you were on Top Chef?
That was so cool.
Oh my God, did you used to have brown hair?
I knew it, I knew it.
So Gail's like, and there are so many more cultures and cuisines that make up the mosaic
that is Toronto.
Well, there were so many, unfortunately Gail ate them all out of existence.
So there's no quick fire tomorrow, but guess what?
Two people are going to get kicked out.
Oh, I guess we don't find that out yet.
So they each have to go, they team up and they go to different neighborhoods to learn cultures firsthand
Because how better to learn things than through food and so they're like, yay, we get to get in our BMWs
Yeah, so they they are all they're all they're all paired up into these into these different groups
They're gonna go all these places and everything
And yeah, like you said, it is a double elimination challenge. And whoever is paired with Tristan is going
to be, I'm sorry, it's not whoever's paired with Tristan, but whoever went, the winner
of the last chance kitchen comes back and it's what's her face. What's her name again?
I can't remember her name. Red haired girl.
I don't know. She's the girl with glasses, the goofy girl with glasses.
Just call her goofy for now. We'll figure it out in a little while. Oh no.
It's goofy. Yeah. So, um,
it was back and Tristan one, whoever is she's, she's got immunity because she is,
um, oh wait, that's a head.
I'm sorry, I just confused two scenes in this show.
I apologize.
We'll put a pin in that.
Wow, Ben.
I'm getting used to top chef notes again
because they're always crazy.
So Kat is like, oh, I'm so excited to try different flavors.
That's why we're here, to go to different restaurants
and to celebrate, I have awkwardly cut my bangs unevenly. So I spent my morning doing that. Bring it on, Portugal town.
Yeah. So now Bailey is... Oh, so Bailey is back. Bailey is goofy. That's her name, right?
I don't know, who cares?
We're not there yet.
Are we?
Where are we?
Where are we?
I think I got totally just turned around.
I see them drawing knives is what I have next.
That's what I thought,
but then I thought maybe that happened later.
So I was like, I don't know.
I'm not sure.
So Tristan won the elimination challenge. So, um,
they get to draw first and the knives say their, uh,
town that they're going to be working in or whatever. So Tristan gets Greek.
So, um, listen, they're going to get immunity, right?
Because they won the quick fire last week.
Right. So Tristan has Greek and he says that he doesn't really,
Greek food does not really match his style very much,
but he's going to try to make it work.
And so then more people are drawing lives.
Lana and Vincenzo draw Indian.
Now Vinny, he was the one who in the first episode
was really domineering about coring apples
and serving like a dish in the apple when no one else wanted to do it.
And like we kind of clocked him in that first episode for being like we thought he was going
to be a villain.
And then he kind of has sort of been on the sidelines in terms of villainy.
But I feel like it's going to start to come back this episode.
Yeah, I thought it was funny when Michael Cera was the guest host and he looked exactly like Michael Cera.
I know.
He's so proud of it too.
He's like, God, I think I look just like him,
don't you guys?
I was like, yeah, actually.
And Michael Cera sort of had like a puberty beard,
you know, he's like doing that thing where he's like,
he can't really grow a beard,
but he really wants to grow a beard.
So he like had like these patches all around.
He was like, look, I look like an adult now.
It's like, no.
It's still awkward to watch age.
Cause he does look older.
I mean, I do think he looks old and like not old,
but I mean older for sure, but he's still like a baby.
It's odd.
And then he wears like those movie stars,
like just slightly tinted glasses and stuff,
which make him look, he's an odd, he's an odd ager, I'll just say that.
So then Vinny wants to pick Lana
because they've worked together before
and it worked out great.
And basically we see where Lana is just gonna do
whatever he wants because that's how Lana is.
Lana is definitely the Sue in the room.
She's like the one who's gonna do
whatever the chef tells her to do.
And so I kind of feel bad for Lana,
but that's how she is.
Every time they have a challenge,
she's like, okay guys, we got this, right?
Guys, high fives, high fives.
Anybody high fives?
High fives, anybody wanna, okay.
I'm not gonna, no one's gonna high five myself.
High five myself.
It's gonna work out great, guys, we got this.
Yeah, and then we see Corwin and Kat,
and they both draw Portuguese Portuguese and Kat's like,
Corwin is decisive and he understands flavor. I understand bangs. So I think together we
are going to be unstoppable.
Okay. So Tristan, because he has immunity, whoever returns tomorrow is going to be his partner.
Last chance kitchen winner will receive immunity.
So Gail's like, well, neither one of you will be eliminated unless I get burnt, charred,
rubbery, and Gail calm down, Gail.
No one's serving eggs today.
Chefs, this is very important because this will be a double elimination and an entire
team will be going home.
And so Shwa is like, wow, that means out of 11, two of us are going home.
Wow, glad he was able to do that deduction.
He's able to connect those dots with a double elimination means that two people are going
home.
So he's off to a great start.
But they're adding one.
So wouldn't it be out of 12?
Cause I think there's 11 standing there.
I was very confused by this part too.
I think he meant that it'll be 12.
Right, but she's not gonna go home
since she has immunity.
So he's like, okay.
Oh, I see.
It's like saying the 11 of us left
to have to go home.
Okay, I get it.
Yeah.
So for your elimination challenge,
we want you to create a dish inspired by your time on the
line. You can make anything you want, but we want to taste some of the flavors and techniques that
you learn tomorrow. You'll have $1,000 to shop at the Whole Foods Market. Like, oh my God, what NPC
did they get to record all this dialogue? Do you guys even have Kristin showing up? I feel like
they're just putting, they put Kristin's image up there and they have an AI person doing all of these parts. I like when she judges though.
Pete Yeah. She's like, and the very next day, you'll serve the judges and 150 very hungry guests,
and you'll be serving at the very vibrant Bentway Community Center. Good luck. So,
why do I feel like the Bentway Community Center will not be vibrant at all? Just saying.
Pete So, now we go to the apartment and we… Why do I feel like the Bentway Community Center will not be vibrant at all? Just saying.
So now we go to the apartment and we-
Tomorrow, you're going to be serving under a freeway underpass.
Everyone's going to enjoy it.
A very vibrant freeway, I'd like to add.
Because that is literally what they serve.
And I went riding on my freeway in my heart for the Pete Cadillac.
So now we're in the apartment and Lana is like,
so do you guys think it's gonna come today?
The anticipation's killing me.
And Vinnie is like, well, I think Zubair is our guy,
which as soon as he said that, we should have realized,
well, you already knew,
because you had a very solid chicken theory
and I always forgot about my curse.
So as soon as he said that though,
I was like, oh, it's not gonna be Zubair.
They're never gonna say it's gonna be Zubair. I thought it was, if it wasn't gonna be Zubair, I thought it would literally be anyone but Bailey.
And this is where Bailey enters. Okay. I'm finally rooted back in my timeline.
Bailey has returned.
And she's like, ciao! Well guys, I made it back. Okay.
And then we see clips of her winning and winning and winning and winning and Top Chef just loved it. And so she's like, yeah, it's been a real opportunity
to build myself up to the chef that I am. You know, I've re centered myself guys. I
was a different person before I did not have confidence, but here I am. I have confidence
now guys. I'm a confident chef. And they were like, Oh my God, it's a totally different
person. It's a totally different person.
It's a new Bailey, one who's not gonna be stupid enough
to make risotto on Top Chef again.
So she's like, she gives the old-
She shows her sister on Roseanne to me.
I don't know why she looks like Becky on Roseanne to me,
but she does.
She looks like Becky with glasses.
Yeah.
She's like, Becky meets little Chappellrone.
No, not Chappellrone, I take that back.
I strike that back.
I strike that from the record.
So Bailey says the thing that everyone says on the show whenever they have a brush with
going home, I was cooking for what I thought people wanted me to cook or what I thought
I should cook, but now I'm ready to cook what I love.
I'm like, okay, congratulations.
Peanut butter sandwiches and Ben and Jerry's. The rest of the season.
This is almost as trite as cooking save me.
I was living in the gutter and cooking save me.
Okay, you're cooking what you love.
Okay, congratulations.
You're doing exactly what every other person
on this show has ever said.
Yeah.
And Vinny's like, wow, Bailey's gone
and now Bae-Bae's here.
Whatever that means.
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So, they're like, wow, who is this person? I don't even know her. She's just so confident.
Wow, from the 30 minutes that we knew her earlier in the season, she has completely
changed. So, they tell her what's going on and Bailey says, Bailey announces that because she has
immunity so does Tristan because she is linked with Tristan.
So they're going to be doing-
Well, he won and she won, right?
So she won last chance and he won.
So they both won in their own rights to get it.
Oh, I see.
I thought it was, oh, okay, got it.
I thought it was that her immunity spread onto him.
It's that they both had immunity that was like an umbrella.
Right.
He had immunity from like, okay.
And that's why they were paired.
Yeah.
So then Shwe is like,
we're on the Asian sensation redemption tour.
God, being on the bottom last week was really rough,
but I'm starting to feel like I'm just a bottom queen. Oh no,
Henry says that. He's like, yeah, I was on the bottom for the second time. And at this point,
I'm just a bottom queen. So I really like Henry, but I kind of have this feeling like he's just not
very good. He's like really on the bottom every, every episode. So they're driving and then we see
Vinny and Lara and they have like a very somber car. And I sort of get the feeling like I assume that they're going to get eliminated because in their confessionals,
they're sitting so far apart that they're like not even in the frame together. Like, it's like
half their heads. I was like, oh, they hate each other right now. So something went really bad.
Kyle Soria I think Vinnie just has a super weird robot energy. And he only respects people. Look,
he hasn't been mean to anybody. So I'm not saying anything really against anything he's done. I just get kind of the impression that
he reserves his kindness for people who are very in the upper echelons of who they've
worked for because he's really all about that.
That's all he cares about. He loves just name dropping and he's kind of like sock puppety
also too, which makes him kind of likable,
which is hard if you're a villain, right?
He's like a sock puppet with teeth.
And also I was worried, I'm not worried
because I don't care.
But when he said this, he's like,
you know, I enjoy Indian food,
but I'm not super familiar with it.
I was like, you're dead.
Yeah, no, you're dead.
They're actually lucky that Padma were still on the show.
Like they would 100% be eliminated because you know, anyone who like Daris touched Cuman,
she's like, wow, did you think this actually tasted good? You piece of shit person. Get out of here.
Do you really think that you understand Cuman? I asked Cuman what it thought of you and it said, go in.
Did you mean to attempt to make Indian food for me, Padma Lakshmi, Queen of Indian food?
Wow.
So, then Shwe and Henry are going to embrace their Filipino flavor.
And let's see, let's see.
So, now they all go to their restaurants. Restaurants. Yeah. And let's see, let's see. So now they all go to their restaurants, meet their people.
Yeah. And Bailey, they go, we see Bailey and Tristan at this Greek restaurant and Bailey is,
she's like really, she really likes it. She's getting kind of like a family feeling around it.
And I think it was around here somewhere where Tristan says for the first of many times this episode, I'm starting to realize that Greek food is kissed with fire. He says it so many times.
Just say it's charred, it's fine. Stop saying kissed by the flame. You're not sealed. Okay.
He says after a while, it's like a Burger King commercial.
This isn't that what they do. It're like flame grilled. It's a flame grilled
waffle.
KISSED BY FLAMES.
I love Tristan, but enough with the KISSED BY FLAMES bit. Okay?
Yeah. Then over at the Portuguese restaurant, the chef there is like, codfish. We love a
codfish here. It's very famous. And Corwin's like, salt cod. That's what we're going to go with.
I'm Jamaican and I'm going with salt cod. Salt cod, salt cod. God, thank God we're using salt cod.
I can't wait to get to the store and find salt cod. God damn it. Salt cod is a gift. God,
I love salt cod. Cat's like, you know what? I just consulted with my bangs and then,
you know what they're saying? Salt cod.
We definitely are going to cook with salt cod.
And this can be the most salt coddy salt cod thing that salt cod has ever salt codded.
Yup.
So then we go back to the Indian restaurant and Vinny and Lana are being made chicken
kama sutra, which they somehow changed to being karma sutra, which is very offensive.
Thank you. That drove me nuts. Oh my God.
Every time they said Karma Sutra. Come on, even if you don't know it,
and you know the fucking butt from being in junior high,
and that's the only thing you can go look up and see what fucking looked like.
This was almost as bad as saying espresso. In fact,
it was actually worse because they are chefs and they should know the name of
their fucking dish, but they kept on saying Karma Sutras so many times. They did, you know what, they actually
received karma because of this. That was the thing. And actually, like, they should know
they're chefs. And to say like, I don't know Indian, I'm like, I know we don't all live in the same
kind of cities or whatever, but everywhere I've lived has had such a strong Indian food population.
I mean, Austin now,
LA, obviously, New York. So, and I know that everywhere's again, but they're chefs. Like
to say like, I just don't get Indian food is weird. I don't, that struck me as odd,
you know? Because I think some things are further out. Like there's not a Portuguese
restaurant everywhere you go. You know what I mean? I would understand it if someone was
like, maybe I'm not as familiar with some of these,
but I feel like Indian, they're pretty big cuisine.
Yeah, and it's, yeah, I agree.
I know what you're saying, which is that Indian restaurants,
their presence, I think across the country,
especially in these big urban areas,
it's pretty undeniable. And really,
technically, all these cuisines are everywhere. But I feel like Indian cuisine has really started to
permeate so much of, like we said, Trader Joe's. It's-
It's pretty pervasive.
It's become- It's very pervasive. And so to be like, I'm not really familiar with it.
It's very pervasive. And so to be like, I'm not really familiar with it.
I mean, I think like, it's like, yes, there are techniques.
There are definitely techniques that are used
in Indian cooking that are different techniques
in other, as with any cuisine.
But I know what you're saying.
It's surprising that a chef who'd be on the show
is acting like so, seems almost like.
Especially an ordy-torty one.
You know, like you would think that the education
would be there. Right, like just some niche exotic cuisine.
Yeah.
So then we go to the Philip, oh, so anyway, he's saying it right first.
So he says, chicken, comma, sutra.
And he's like, you know, and it's very tasty.
And I'm obviously familiar with the book, comma, sutra, you know, and I haven't really
had the opportunity to dive into that.
But which doesn't shock me that you know what that book is and haven't even bothered to help your partner out by reading it.
You know, Vinny's just that kind of person.
Vinny is like the kind of person to be like, come and go.
You know what I mean?
He's like, I came, bye.
Yeah, I think that like maybe if his boss at like the Nomad had read it, maybe he would
have read it, you know, chapter to chapter, but like he hadn't.
So yeah. maybe he would have read it chapter to chapter, but he hadn't. So then Henry and Shwe are
talking about Filipino food and they just really like all the condiments that they're
learning about there. And then over in the Portuguese restaurant, William and Kat are
talking about how they just love the simplicity and about what they're eating and salt cod.
It's just the way to go, right? Undeniable.
Yeah. Untenant. Let's go. Let's go. And of course, Kat likes a simplicity Nutella sandwich. I will never forget that, by the way. I will never forget it or forgive it, even though she's kind of my
favorite Whackadoo. I complain about not having Whackadoos. We get a Whackadoo and now I'm
complaining about the Whackadoo. You can't please me. She's not even that wackadoo. She just has bangs and like she
is though. She is like when she leaves, she's like, guys, I mean, I've done it all. I cut my bangs.
I've been a burlesque dancer. I've been a stripper. That's true. I've been a bricklayer.
I've been a clown circus performer. I've been a chef. I've been a truck driver.
When she listened to all her shit, I was like, yes, Kat. It's my kind of wackadoo.
So now all the chefs, part of this thing is that not only are they going to try all these cuisines,
they're going to work the lines. So now they're all working it and everything. And it's a lot
of cooking, cooking, cooking. And Cesar is saying how he's never worked a walk station before. Cesar is so cute. He always looks kind of like an adorable, like
an adorable little pet, like a little baby, like a little baby hamster or something that's
sort of like trembling a bit, you know, and smiling and happy, but like scared. And so
he, this is first time working a walk station, which is, I think that's surprising to me.
I don't know why I just assume like, like any professional chef has worked a walk at
some point, you know,
but he hasn't. He's like, Oh, I worked it. And then, you know,
there's the oil and smoking and it like flares up. Oh, it's okay.
I've heard the noodles. So I put in the noodles. I'm so sorry.
You're burning the noodles. She's like, it's okay. We have more noodles.
He's like, Oh, I have more noodles. I have more noodles. So,
and then Lana was telling us, yeah,
we're going to make the common chicken karma sutra because it's, you know, it just seems like this is the dish that we're
going to really understand the most. Cause basically it's the only dish that they taught us how to make.
So we're just going to make it, but we're going to do, we're going to make it. But I have a feeling
we're going to do something really strange to it also. Let's see. Yeah. How can you make a karma
sutra super weird? It made me crazy that she kept saying
Karma Sutra so much that even Vinny changed his mind and he was like,
it is Karma Sutra. Now I'm going to say it to you. So, now we go to the Caribbean restaurant
and they're browning oxtail with brown sugar and Massimo is like,
I've heard of browning meat and now we're browning. I can't wait to brown.
You brown things with sugar. It's amazing
Okay, sir. You just broke three of our cutting boards. Sorry. I got excited
Like sir, why did you get that soapy water into our oh, I'm so sorry
So meanwhile Caesar and katiana are making flower dumplings, which was so cool
I could have sat there and watched ten minutes that lady make those cool dumplings like So, meanwhile, Cesar and Katiana are making flower dumplings, which was so cool.
I could have sat there and watched 10 minutes that lady make those cool dumplings.
Like, she was like crimping the dumplings and it made this awesome pattern.
I was like really sad that it was so fast.
Those were gorgeous.
I know.
Little pump purple dumplings.
I've never seen that before.
I'm going to make those.
Because this is Royal Thai cuisine.
So this isn't Thai cuisine.
This is Royal Thai, which I guess is different. And
I'm super pissed at all my plebeian Thai places that I go to around here. Like, where's the Royal Thai? Where's my purple flower? I know. I think it's so funny too, because there's Royal Thai
cuisine and I think there's just like various cultures have kind of like these royal versions,
where it's like the high end stuff that you serve to kings and queens.
It's just funny that we just definitely don't have anything like that in America. It's kind of like biscuits.
Yeah, we do.
Hot dogs. Royal biscuits.
We have a Royal McDonald's, which is Chipotle.
I think actually not anymore. I think McDonald's, I think it's spun off Chipotle. I think Chipotle is no longer under McDonald's.
Well, we have royal grocery stores like Central Market
is a royal.
King Cullen.
We have it.
There's big lots, which is more royal than just lots.
Just a lot.
That's true.
OK, so meanwhile, there's more.
Everyone just like cooking. That's really fun. And
then Tristan is grilling meat and he's like, most of Greek food is touched by fire. Thinking
about our dish, grilling is the way to go. So it could be hashtag touched by fire. And
so they all do that and it's fun. And then they leave and they're like, God, that was
awful. And now it's time for them to think about the dishes that they're going to make.
Yes.
So Lana's like, yeah, this is a smart dish for 150 people because we could do chicken
thighs.
We can make chicken thighs in bulk.
And Vinny wants to do a hollandaise.
No.
What?
No, you're not doing a hollandaise for Indian food, sir.
Come on, man. I'm sure there is a world in which someone could do some funky fusion where they make like an
Indian spiced hollandaise. I'm sure there's a world where that can happen,
but that's going to require some testing. And that's not what you're doing. Blake, this is not
what we're doing right now. You're not going to make, you're not going to put a hollandaise onto
your Indian food. I'm sorry. Stop this. Yeah, stupid. And she's like, you know not what we're doing right now. You're not going to make, you're not going to put a hollandaise onto your Indian food. I'm sorry. Stop this.
Yeah, stupid. And she's like, you know, I don't really get it, but he seems really strong
about it. So, you know, I'm just like, okay, let's go with it. And this is why you're going
to go home, you know, because this is your attitude all the time. You need to be more
ballsy. Tell Vinny no. Okay. I know that he already kind of smacked you down about the
apple coring and all of that other stuff, but you don't have to listen tell Vinny no, okay? I know that he already kind of smacked you down about the apple coring and all of that other stuff,
but you don't have to listen to Vinny.
And this is what always happens on the show.
It's always some like bro chef who just like domineers
and then like the female chefs always have to be like,
okay, well, I guess I'll go along with your plan.
And then they're the ones who get burned in the end.
I can't stand it every single season this happens.
So Bailey is just come back, they're shopping and Bailey's like, oh, well, our octopus
is going to be frozen, which sounds like a great idea.
And I was like, oh, no, no. She explains that frozen octopus and what I've heard about
fish is that all fish is flash frozen now anyway. So it doesn't really matter where
you're eating your seafood.
But I did hear a frozen octopus and think,
oh shit, Bailey, not on your first time back.
None of us, it's been like 15 years
and none of us are over the frozen scallop incident, okay?
So like don't get the frozen octopus, you know?
She's like, it'll keep it fresh and tenderize it.
We're like, no, Bailey, no.
But she does have immunity, so she can take her,
she can roll the dice on some frozen octopus, I guess.
Okay, so then we go over to Corwin and Kat,
and they cannot find saltfish.
So they're like, well, salt cod takes
five to seven days maximum.
So let's see, do you have just regular cod?
Why don't we do that?
Let's just put, let's just take regular cod
and then we'll add salt to it.
Sound good?
Yeah, I'm like, like maybe, I kind of feel like salt cod,
it's just, I've never tried to cook with salt cod,
but I just have enough of like a spidey sense to know
that salt cod is probably not
going to be like a garrens. That's not like salmon. We're not going to just find salt cod even at
whole foods. So I feel like they should have had a backup plan and they were just totally caught
off guard. So like, okay, we'll use cod instead of salt cod. I'm like, if salt cod is going to be
curing in salt for five to seven days, it's just gonna be a radically different experience.
And you guys are going to set yourself up for failure,
but just because it has the same name, just cause cod is there too,
it's not gonna be the same.
Just get another tin fish. You know what I mean? Salted fish is so weird.
And then he says, what makes salt cod great is instead of it being soft,
it has a firmer texture. So it flakes better when you cook it.
So we're just gonna get regular cod.
What?
Sir.
What are you doing, sir?
Just go.
I wish they just had a trap door
because there's too many chefs anyway for my taste.
There's too many fucking people here.
Just start dropping them through the door.
So then Shwe is talking about how he was,
what's he saying? He wants to take some coconut flavor from coconut cream that they had from the tuna dish and he just wants a big bowl of comfort.
Trey Lockerbie Yeah. And then Paula, I forgot about Paula.
She's like, is she from Ecuador? But she's there, she and Masi Morgan do oxtail, but they don't have oxtail.
So we're gonna do short ribs. So they'll do short ribs. Shouldn't be a problem, right?
Commercials. Here comes one right now.
So anyway, now everyone arrives at the kitchen. It's time to start cooking. So Tristan starts
working on the on the octopus octopus and like one of the,
one of the issues with octopus is that it takes a really long time to cook it. So this is like an ongoing storyline with them,
which is seeing if that octopus is ready yet. And then while they're doing that,
Massimo is just yelling, he's like,
everyone in the ship, everyone in the kitchen is just like getting startled.
Every time he does it. Yeah. Cause they're just wacky.
They're like, it's so funny to watch them work together.
It was hilarious.
And Mossimo's really big into,
okay, guess what we're doing today?
Browning meats, yes, browning meats.
You know how you do it?
Sugar, then you cover it, then you put more sugar.
Browning, browning.
He's all over the place, this fucking guy.
And then Kat is talking about her fritter
and having to bake in
rice and potatoes instead of boiling them because we're using fresh cod instead
of salt cod.
So hopefully the dryness of the baked potato will make up for the massive amounts
of liquid we're going to have coming off the cod.
What are the odds that cat talks about fritters a lot?
And you said cat's talking about her fritter.
Why do I feel like if you meet up for lunch with Kat at Tartein and she's like,
sorry, I'm running late. I was making a fritter this morning. It didn't really come together.
It's like, yes, Kat, we know you're always making a fritter. Sorry, it's just my life.
I got to share what's happening in my life.
So Henry is talking about how him and Shwe are going to do their comfort food because they both
grew up poor. And so they're going to do arroz ido as the base of their dish and then add some pork
care care on there. And then Lana is like, she's like, I'm going to take some inspiration from
chicken karma, suchra. I'm not listening to you anymore.
like she's like, I'm going to take some inspiration from camp chicken, karma, suchra. I'm not listening to you anymore.
It's enough. The moment you add that are in there,
we're not listening to anything else. And the fact that there's an R and hollandaise,
no, curry hollandaise and flat bread. I know what you're going for, but like,
the thing is this is there's also an element of like, why, why are you doing this? Because what,
what we haven't mentioned is the reason why we're incorporated. They are, we, I'm like, I'm joining the journey. The reason why they're doing curry hollandaise
is because Vinny worked at the Nomad, which is a fancy ass restaurant in Europe. And he like worked
the sauce station or something. And it was like a very special time in his life. So he wants to
incorporate like his experience as making hollandaise sauce on mass
to this Indian thing, which is like, why, like,
you don't have to do that, like why are you doing that?
Like you're being too literal about this idea of like,
cook who you are and what you're about.
Like there's just no reason to add a hollandaise
to this chicken.
And it's, you're only doing it to basically name drop
that you worked at the Nomad.
Yeah. Well, I hope we have someone here to call them out on that today. Ding. So then
we go back to the apartment and Cesar and Katiana. Now, here's what I love. You watch
everybody cooking, everybody's freaking out, including Cesar, because that's just in his
personality, like you said. But Katiana never is. She's just like, whatever.
She's making the most beautiful food.
She's using tweezers.
She's just calm.
She doesn't talk to anybody.
She's just like, hi guys.
I'm just the one with perfect eyebrows out here
out cooking every single one of you every time.
So if anybody needs me, just over here.
If anyone needs me, I'll be getting into a puffy vest
later this afternoon.
She's always in a puffy vest. So just want you to know that I spread the vest shade amongst multiple
people on this episode, not just Kristin, but Katya is always in like a little
vest as well.
So yeah, she's very, she's very stoic and she's always making little flowers.
That's kind of her thing.
So, um, they, when they, when, when it's sort of like at the end of the day, there is some, uh, this is a true, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, there is some, this is a true at
the end of the day, at the end of the day, there are some question marks.
Like will the octopus be ready tomorrow?
And will Massimo and Paula's short ribs, will they be ready?
Right.
Who knows?
So, Katiana tells us that tomorrow is her daughter's fifth birthday.
And I was waiting for the old, oh, let tomorrow is her daughter's fifth birthday, and I was waiting for
the old, oh, let me hear my daughter's having her birthday, I'm missing everything for my daughter,
I just miss my daughter. But she's not. She's like, it's my daughter's fifth birthday, fuck that
birthday party. Thank God I'm not there. I just want to do well so I can show my daughter, like,
your mom's kicking ass on her fifth birthday and you're sitting there without your mom at your birthday party and yours.
So mom wins.
Okay.
That's all.
I would have done with this.
I would have done with the daughter section.
No, I was never addicted to heroin.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Can I just go back to cooking?
Well, thanks.
My thing is I live in LA.
I'm super cool.
I've got celebrity friends and that's it.
My daughter will survive.
So now it's the next day and we arrive at
the underpass and or the overpass, I should say they're under the overpass and they've
got 90 minutes to get ready. So they've got all their different stations and everything.
And Massimo is telling us that like 180 balls of dough need to be portioned, need to braise,
need some time to cook. They're like, okay, bro, chill out. And Kat, meanwhile, is saying that she's really
nervous about the double elimination and that they tested some of their like croquette or whatever
they're making. They're like their balls and it's still a little wet. So they're adding flour to
bind it more. So we know this is going to be a disaster because anytime someone's trying to
do some last minute, like textural adjustments,
it's always going to go gummy and tough or just be.
And they're doing it by adding Panko, which is bread.
They're adding bread. Basically. It's basically bread crumbs, right?
So they're adding bread to a bunch of wet,
which is kind of just make-mush guys. Okay?
Why are you doing that?
Why guys?
So then Paula and Massimo are having trouble
because he's having trouble getting his meat done right.
He needs the jus to be reduced
and she doesn't want to reduce it.
She's like, the meat's not cooked all the way
and the jus needs to be covering it.
So we have time.
I don't know why he's freaking out.
And he's like, my God, do it, do it,
we're fucking going home.
And so they start arguing and she's not taking his shit,
which I really like too.
She stands up for herself very well.
She does.
They have a real jus argument
about whether it should be covered or not.
They never quite get to the bottom of it.
They just keep like, one person covers the pot,
the other one takes it off.
It just sort of goes back and forth like that.
And she tells us,
I'm not going to let anybody disrespect me.
I mean, I'm sorry.
But at the end of it all in my mind,
I'm also thinking I'm gonna get the lemonade
because my team is not working as a team.
Like he's in a whole other world.
And we see him just like knocking shit over
and just being a disaster.
So then everyone's like,
oh, trouble in paradise, am I right?
18 minutes left. So Cesar's like, oh, trouble in paradise, am I right? 18 minutes left.
So Cesar's like, oh my God, we're using butterfly pea flowers for pickled daikon flowers.
Purple, it's a royal color.
She's amazing.
Everything she's doing is amazing.
She's so lucky to be here.
But it's also the scariest color.
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