Watch What Crappens - #2807 Summer House 0910 Part Two: Can’t Touch This

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

This is part 2 of 2This week on Summer House, Jesse Solomon chides Ciara for touching him, and Ciara chides Imrul for turning the house into a bordello. Paige, meanwhile, has anxiety when she... realizes she’s going to have to dump Craig at some point.You can watch this recap on video, listen to our White Lotus Recaps, and participate in live episode threads at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens.  Tickets for our North American tour on sale at watchwhatcrappens.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:13 I'm wearing my hungover headband. No, silly. We need electrolytes. Question. Can we put lip liner on electrolytes? Sierra is telling Carl outside that she's so over emerald like he brought another girl back last night And she just left and she's and he's like dude like you're new here Like you come quite literally with a bang so like oh speak of the fucking devil here He is now and emerald comes and all the guys are there now.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I think most of the guys are there. Or at least Carl and Kyle have joined. So she could just go straight for it. She's like, what's going on? He says, oh, how are you? And she's like, yeah, so we heard you having fun last night. So do you do like this?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Are you like this in your own home? Cause like it's obnoxious at this point. Whoa, okay, those are some big guns. He's like, well, I didn't even know you knew my name. Yeah, I thought about that. You know, I was just trying to be as Carl would say, mindful about, you know, not bringing someone back. And she goes, Yeah, um, when did you have that thought? And when did you plan on executing that thought? Which was a great question. Great dual question. Because we saw by the way, the day before,
Starting point is 00:02:25 he had told the guys at Kyle's party, yeah, I'm gonna take a break this weekend, and then they laughed, he goes, yeah, probably not, yeah, and then they're laughing, and he's definitely gonna bring someone home. So he's already being bullshit, and she's like, yeah, so I know that's a nice thing to say, but when are you actually gonna do the thing
Starting point is 00:02:40 that you're saying right now? Yeah, and he's like, listen, I'm just trying to have fun. And she says, well, it's a matter of that you're saying right now. Yeah, and he's like, listen, I'm just trying to have fun. And she says, well, I mean, it's a matter of like who you're bringing into this house. Like this is crazy. And so he's like, wow, okay, well does anybody else feel that way? And this sucks for him
Starting point is 00:02:56 because nobody's gonna go up against Sierra, right? Yeah. And cause she's hot. The guys are all quiet. She's like, they know not to fuck with Sierra when she's not having it. So they just sit there and smile awkwardly. And they've been the ones encouraging this whole time. And I feel for him because this is, to me, so obvious that he's just trying to gain
Starting point is 00:03:19 approval with the other dudes. It's like, yeah, look, I'm fucking someone else. I had a threesome. And they're like, yeah, he's a beast. Every time he comes home with someone, they're like, yeah, look, I'm like fucking someone else. I had a threesome. And they're like, yeah, he's a beast, right? Every time he comes home with someone, they're like, yeah, you fucking beast, you laid another one. And now when he's confronted, they're like, yeah, it's kind of gross.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You know, people can look like, yeah, totally on their side. But it also feels like he's like not making bombs with other people in the house. And so he's like new and he's just like, doesn't care about like the late night bonding moments or whatever He's just about getting some ass. So then serious like we had these are just my thoughts and Carl's like well, I mean We've definitely never had the volume of visitors like this. I guess you could say Yeah, this is a volume actually as well
Starting point is 00:04:02 I care they've really you know, I guess the closer, the higher their hair, the closer to God. That's the thing, that's what they say. It's mindful, it's functional hair. So Jesse says. You know, I think every once in a while it's fine, but like, you know, I mean, maybe in a way game, maybe in a way game could be good for you sometimes,
Starting point is 00:04:20 you know? And so he's like, okay, cool. And so then Emeril tells us, now Emeril is where he shares the tragic backstory to his man-whore ways. He's like, you know, I'm not sorry I brought one girl home if we were vibing, having a good time, but I'm not gonna keep doing it if it's bothering everyone.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You know, from ages six to 23, I was undocumented and I was in the shadows. So a big part of what I'm doing is just living a bit more freely and it feels good. I want that to be part of who I am, but I want it to be everything that I am. The classic coming to America story. You work hard enough, you can sleep with anyone you want. Got a green card, fuck 900 people. That's just how it goes.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I was like, oh my God, fuck 900 people. That's just how it goes. Yeah, that's how it goes. It was good. You know, I was terrified every time I fucked somebody, they were gonna ask for my driver's license every single time. But now I'm fucking everybody, I see. I don't know, it's a weird connection.
Starting point is 00:05:20 But I was glad, you know, I thought it was big of him to just kinda take it and be like, okay, I didn't know you felt like that. Now I know you feel like that and I'll make a change. And it kind of made her look more like an asshole because she was like, no, I'm mad at you, bye. And he's like, okay, well, good talk. She's like, yeah, good talk.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And you know, I mean, look, at the end of the day, he does have a right to fuck and calling him out in front of all the other dudes was not great. She has the right to do that too. I don't know, I kind of felt for him. I didn't feel bad for him and I didn't feel even, I felt neither way. I didn't feel like, oh, I feel so bad for him
Starting point is 00:05:57 or like, aha, got him. I just was like, okay, fine. Because I do feel like, again, he's allowed to bring back whoever he wants, but I think that he is clearly lacking in prioritizing relationships in the house, which is why it's causing friction. And I thought that his excuse that he was undocumented for so many years, so now he's going to have huge amounts of sex because he's going to live out loud. I was like, I don't know that that seems,
Starting point is 00:06:22 I understand the idea of like you had to live in the shadows for so long, so now you're happy to live freely, but to me, I think then like, then adding, and that's why I'm gonna have threesomes every weekend. That's a little bit of a stretch. You don't need to have like a big emotional excuse to wanna fuck, you know? I don't think, you're allowed, just go fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Like, I don't need you bringing in like, the trauma storyline for the reason that you need to fuck somebody. Like that I didn't like. But I think in general, you know, it is maybe sex-shamy. I don't know, I feel weird saying that because it also is manners. But as far as his bonding with everybody else, we do see him, he opens up to people.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Like he tells him about his story. I think he's shared a lot of kind of intimate details with them, maybe intimate is not the right word in this situation, but he's shared a lot of kind of intimate details with them, maybe intimate is not the right word in this situation, but he's shared a lot of details with them, but I think you're right in the way that he's not bonding with them, because part of bonding with them is hanging out when you're drunk late at night, and when he's drunk late at night,
Starting point is 00:07:16 he's always fucking some rando, so he's missing that part of it. He's doing the hanging out sober and sharing the trauma, but he's not doing the, you know, falling down in the kitchen late at night watching Carl be his name in the snow, but he's not doing the, you know, falling down in the kitchen late at night watching Carl be his name in the snow or whatever, or the grass. I think what's interesting is this season has a really, I mean this show has a really spotty track record of casting strong male characters. There've been a lot of men who've been cast on the show
Starting point is 00:07:41 that like sort of come and go and they like like they're there and then you forget about them. There was Alex, there was Chris, there was the guy from season two, there was Jordan and a lot of times I think the guys that come onto the show bond with the other guys, but they struggle to connect with the women and so if they can't connect with the women, they just they're here and then they're gone. They just don't last very long. I think, you know, the only successful male castings I think they've ever had have been West and Jesse and Luke.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And then after that, they just can't seem to, because it's really hard to, I think there are a lot of men who have difficulty hanging out with women. And so I think that's, I think Emeril's just one of those guys that we're seeing to a certain extent, at least from what we see,
Starting point is 00:08:25 because we can only go off of what the show presents to us. But Emeril kind of feels like another one of these one and done guys that comes through Summer House. Although Jordan got two seasons. But Jordan was also hilarious because he was a pathological liar. Yeah. Remember when I fucked Judith Light on the bus?
Starting point is 00:08:42 That was amazing. That was amazing. There's a tour bus Yeah, she was touring with uh, dolly parton at the time. She was You know, she was she was incredible at making lego structures And the first time I saw her make a big cock lego. I was like, you're my bitch judith And so, you know, I let her finger me in the bus and uh, it was embarrassing. It's embarrassing But i'm still the number one guy on Hinge. Paige's room. Sierra goes in and she's like,
Starting point is 00:09:13 yeah, I just ripped into Emeril. I was like, do you have any type of standard? Like, okay, listen, you've dated Austin. Yeah. That's it. That's really, that's it. Literally the end. That's it. That's literally the end. That's it. You did it in Austin in a period where Austin was grosser
Starting point is 00:09:29 than he's ever been. Like you fought for Austin, you know what I mean? Like you fought for Austin when he was at the most disgusting point he's ever been in on television. I'm not saying something. So. Page is like, literally I have to focus on my breathing, otherwise I don't breathe.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Like watch. Hup, hup, hup, hup. Hup, hup, hup, hup. Hup, hup, hup, hup. Hup, hup, hup, hup. Hmm. Sierra's like, hold on, let me get your little pin. She like puts her little fingers up to her mouth,
Starting point is 00:09:59 like up to her nose. She's like, you can do this. You can do this. Hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup, hup. Oh my God, that was the worst. And this is when Sierra says, oh sorry, what'd you say? Emeril made me stop breathing, sorry, come on.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I stopped breathing. I stopped breathing because Emeril's a whore. So what would Sierra say? This is when Sierra says, I can't stand that feeling, I hate when you're like this. I just hate it. And they both are like crying together, and Paige is like, I'm just like nervous feeling, I hate when you're like this. I just hate it. And they both are like crying together and Paige is like, I'm just like nervous
Starting point is 00:10:28 that Craig is gonna like forget on me and be like, you're such a fucking bitch, I just want to go home. And then he's gonna break up with me and then I'll never have to go to Charleston anymore. Am I still crying? Cause I actually kind of feel like I'm laughing now. Oh my God, I've never been happier at this thought.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah, so she tells us again that she feels like Craig minimizes her line of work and she doesn't want to ever speak up with him and she used to feel like if they broke up she would be villainized and the public opinion would be that Craig is so much better off without her. Well, you know, that's why you need to choose Instagram over Facebook to read comments. Yes. Also, it's a good idea to check in with your producers and find out which show is gonna air first
Starting point is 00:11:05 because whichever show airs second is gonna be the last impression. So guess what? Summer House is gonna air after, airs after Southern Charm and so this is gonna be the narrative that's gonna stick with the public. So congratulations Paige, you're gonna wind up on top.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah. And so she feels like if she gets on the public's bad side she's gonna lose everything and then she's not to have a career over Craig, which sucks to feel. But it's also not a cool reason to stay with somebody, you know, especially when he's like, Oh my God, Paige and I are going to be married in 10 minutes. You're like, Oh my God, I don't want your fans to hate me. So I will lead you on until my tour is over. Yes. Watching Paige is like thriving right now. She was just on Fallon this week.
Starting point is 00:11:45 She's doing like Paige and Hannah did like the Vanity Fair red carpet for the Oscars. Like they are killing it. And I think that Craig would have been an anvil tied to her ankle and would have just dragged her right down. And what's interesting with this is that this is, this is obviously shot last summer. And that's when Southern charm was shot too. And there's interesting with this is that this is, this is obviously shot last summer and that's when Southern Charm was shot too.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And there's no indication from Craig that this relationship is going through the shitter, but we see that Paige is like struggling here, like really struggling. So for people who thought that Paige was just being callous or just like dumped him or whatever, you see that she is like, she is going through it. And you see now like everything that we picked up on
Starting point is 00:12:24 on the Southern Char charm recaps with her and like looking at the bees and coming down to Charleston. You can now we're seeing what she's really going through. And I guess what I'm trying to get to on this is that like, I guess anyone who thinks that Paige is like, you know, was so mean to Craig, like you can see that this was not just some calculated callous thing, it's that she really felt trapped.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Well yeah, but it also is illustrating that she clearly wanted out in like by July and she clearly says here like, I just want to pretend this isn't happening until after tour because I don't want to have to deal with the public basically. And so she's, she kind of leads him on for a good half a year because and that's not really cool either. And then we see Craig just also being completely delusional because she has been honest with him about what she's feeling and Craig just is like, no, I'm hearing exactly what I want
Starting point is 00:13:21 to hear what she's saying is she doesn't want to get married Ture, but after Ture, she totally wants to get married. Like he's taking it in his own delusional Craig way. He is. I don't see her as leading him on. What I see it as, cause to me leading on is almost a little bit more malicious or a little bit more premeditated. I see it as that she's just avoidant
Starting point is 00:13:43 and which could be interpreted as on his end of feeling let on, but I think she just is like, oh God, this is gonna be tough and annoying. Everything in my life is so good right now, I just don't feel like dealing with shit at this moment. Let me wait until the time when everyone loves to deal with heavy, shitty, emotional things, the holidays. Yeah, and it's also show timing, which is what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Like, if she breaks up with him in the middle of Southern charm shooting, then she's going to have to really deal with a whole Craig victim storyline on his show and villainizing her the whole time on his show. When she's like, well, I could just kind of wait for all that to pass. Let's wait till the cameras down. Yeah, I agree. Maybe leading on isn't the right word, but, uh, I don't think that this, she clearly wants to break up with Craig. And she's clearly saying she's going to put it off until she's not having to
Starting point is 00:14:34 deal with the public outrage. So I don't know that that's totally bad on her. I'm not, I'm not even really judging it. I don't know. I know I'm a judge, a bitch, but I'm not really even judging like fuck her or anything like that I'm just saying, you know, she's not like some little angel either, you know And I think in the whole Paige and Craig thing It's you have to choose a side right because it's somebody breaking up and especially on Bravo So you're like someone had to villainize the other person and I think these two are just like clearly incompatible for so long And it was good for TV for a long time and they knew that they had the public support and all of that and that makes it more acceptable to be in something when you know it's not.
Starting point is 00:15:10 When you're like the bravo couple of, the darling couple of bravo, then it's easier to stay in something even when you personally know it's not right. So we always, we always knew the logistics of this. Yeah, the logistics of this was never, we're never going to work out. They were like 85% there, but like that last 15%, maybe even 90%, that last 10%, like it's not nothing. And you just can't get by it. And I think that ultimately they were able to look past
Starting point is 00:15:35 the long distance thing or whatever, but eventually it's just, you can't keep kicking that can down the road. And whatever other thoughts I had on this, I've forgotten, because I had a few little points. I'm sure we'll go to another half an hour discussion that people desperately need at this point. You know what I'm really glad at?
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm really glad that after all this time, we finally got to talk about Paige and Craig. I feel like. It is nice. It's nice to get that off our chests. It is interesting how it changes a little every time. I feel like Paige is very private about what she's actually feeling.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Like she's very good at curating what she decides to put on camera. And she's been very good with Craig and teaching him how to do it. Because Craig was a goddamn mess before he met her on TV. I mean, he was failing left and right. And so I think she's very carefully curated.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So it's interesting to watch Paige slowly reveal more and more, you know Because she just she hasn't revealed any of this before like the breakups happening We've suspected it or like I've said I've suspected stuff like this before but she's never really said it So I think it is interesting, you know, it's new information. Okay, it is very it's really cool Seeing this like break up from like two different shows on two different perspectives. I think that's actually, it's low key very fascinating what's happening with this relationship on Bravo. That's something that Skandoval did not give us.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Skandoval was riveting because we saw where this situation was heading to and we got to see an entire season of Tom Sandoval's fakery and you're like, oh my god, all the signs are there But in this case, it's more like wow how cool to see a relationship fall apart from literally two different perspectives reality TV Yeah, so then Just like Russian sci-fi. Am I right? So she says yes just, it's just a lot and now I'm supposed to get my period today.
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Starting point is 00:20:35 And Amanda's really done the table nice. She's made nice food. And Lindsay comes in in a little sash that gave her. It's like, oh my God, birthday girl of the birthday. And so the producer says, Lindsay, is this where you thought you'd be at 38? It's like, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Wow, no.
Starting point is 00:20:58 That laugh that she gave was so intense and so scary. She's like, ha ha ha ha ha. I was like, oh my God. This whole section was so Lindsay. And they're She's like, I was like, oh my God. This whole section was so Lindsey. And they're like, well, you know, and she goes, no, I think that timeline ended when I was like 36. And we see the timeline that she wrote where she's like,
Starting point is 00:21:15 in one year, I'm gonna be engaged to Strabi, in the next year, I'm gonna have babies, and then the next year, we're gonna build a house with babies, and then the next year, we're gonna build a house on babies. And that's all me. And she's like, yeah, I only made one list,
Starting point is 00:21:27 and you guys are never gonna let me forget it. And then they show four lists, and they literally say, list number one, list number two, list number three. So they sing Happy Birthday to her, Paige and Sierra like, oh crap, it's the whole song. And then Lindsay's like, Amanda, thank you so much. Sing a lot of you guys, I don't think she can hear the words. or Paige and Ciara like, crap, it's the whole song. And then Lindsay's like, Amanda, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I don't think she can hear the words. She's got cue cards written on. It's like, Lindsay, this is what we're singing to you. Happy birthday, can you read this? Does anyone have an old jazz standard we can put on to make her happy? So Lindsay's like, thank you so much for preparing this beautiful breakfast with like black French toast, it's like, thank you so much for preparing this beautiful breakfast with like
Starting point is 00:22:06 black french toast, it's beautiful. And then we see West, West is, he's hungover so he's struggling there at the table and you know, it's funny. They ask Lindsay if Turner's gonna take her somewhere and she goes, um yeah, he like planted like a month and a half ago because that's how he is. He's really fancy, you guys. And she just says it casually, but then it cuts to Carl being like,
Starting point is 00:22:30 oh, oh, I guess I'm not fancy. I guess Lindsay's saying, I'm not fancy right now. I wish he'd said that softer. Oh, well, Lil says I'm really fancy. So then Lindsay's like, yeah, I'm kind of interested to see what Turner does because like I don't want to say I judge a guy based on how they treat my birthday, but like I kind of judge a guy based on how they treat my birthday and like any small moments I have
Starting point is 00:22:52 with him and like good with. And then we see a flashback to Stravy when he did that whole like that whole birthday thing in the backyard and got her like fish and chips that were just like cold and now like the coating had gone soft and she's like, um, this is beautiful, thank you. She's like, thank you. Oh, bad, eating a fry all pissed off. But didn't he also give her that painting that year? Or was that a different guy?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Didn't he ever, like he had a painting commissioned of her and she was like, ew, a painting? Gross, who paints when we have pictures? It was a all around failure on Stravi's part. I remember being pissed at Lindsay for that. I was like, a man got you a painting commissioned of you. That's huge. I'm like, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I mean, to say somebody didn't put thought into something when they had a whole fucking painting done of you, that was just crazy. And she's like, I would get a helicopter for me. That's when I would just. Stravia and his little desk where he likes sat on the crate and the only shot that they had of him was like through a mirror in the corner of the room.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Those were the days. So Jesse's like, so how do you feel about your birthday next year with the wee one? Are you gonna like bring it here? Are we gonna have like a baby in the house? Are we gonna have a baby in the house? Are we gonna have a baby? And Wes just looks terrified. He's like, please no.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I don't know if I trust you all with my baby actually. And you just know Danielle's gonna be, come back as the nanny next season. She'll be like, I'm here, I'm ready. I just got off the train. I'm ready to take care of the baby, however you need me. Me and the baby are in Club Send It, what? The baby's trying to crawl out of Club Send It.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I can't even keep a baby here. The baby's like, we'll stay all day. Wah wah. So they're all joking about babysitting and things like that, and West is horrified. And in the foyer, now West is lying on that bench in the foyer, just he's so hung over and Paige brings her roller down the stairs like,
Starting point is 00:24:53 bong, bong, bong, bong, ba-bong, ba-bong, ba-bong, ba-bong, ba-bong, ba-bong, ba-bong, ba-bong. Oh, sorry. I know you're really hung over and I know this is really loud for you, so apologies. Oh, wait a second, I think I left something at the top of my stairs. Gotta bring my bag with me He's like, uh, it probably would have been more comfortable if you just dropped the bag down onto my head page don't tempt me Yeah, like don't even give me the option west
Starting point is 00:25:20 Let's try it out uh lexie's bedroom jesse comes in and he's like, oh yeah, just getting ready for a little shabbat action in the car, hope you're ready for it. So he's like, lay one on me, baby. And so he says, I don't like fighting with you. She's like, oh, I was not fighting, you were fighting.
Starting point is 00:25:40 You were like, I love you. Remember when you said that? He's like, yeah, I was drunk and sleepy. And you were like, tell love you. Remember when you said that? Mm-hmm. He's like, yeah, I was drunk and sleepy and you were like, tell me you love me. No. He's such a liar. Yeah, he is a liar. Jesse always tells me he loves me like all the time and I'm like, but like not in front of other people.
Starting point is 00:25:58 So like Jesse's been like telling me that for like a long time, but like only in private. Yeah, he's been saying I love you like a long time, but like only in private. Yeah, she goes, yeah, we've been saying, he's been saying I love you for a long time. It is week four, Lexi. It is week four. So the producer asked how long they were together before he said it, and she's like, 11 days.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So did you know each other 11 days or were you together 11 days? Because I don't know, I don't know how she does her math, but I don't know why it matters. But she's like, it's been a long time. But if it was 11 days after you started getting together, that would have been, and week two, you guys committed, right, and it's week four, so if it was 11 days,
Starting point is 00:26:39 then it's been three days that he's been telling you. You see what I'm getting at? Like, I just don't understand this girl. I don't get her. So then she's like, yeah, like, I'm obviously, like, I love him saying, I love you, but like right now I'm just like trying to speed up like how I'm feeling too, you know, to meet him like where he's at and just saying where like everything kind of goes. I just want to see where everything goes.
Starting point is 00:27:00 So, so she's like, yeah, you said like, because you were like, it hurts me. And he's like, it's true. Like, it's like blue balls for love. Like it's emotional blue balls. Like there's no release. I just like love you so much. So everyone says bye and everyone goes back to the city. We get Trixie Monocle being like, I'm gonna do it.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Make it bigger, better than ever before Gonna do it So now we're having coffee a coffee Roma with Lexi Who's a model the car on tells us and she's with her mom and her sister Tiffany Yeah, this is This is really like a showcase for, it's like, you know, when you go into like Macy's or something and you walk by like the cosmetics area and like there's always someone who's like trying to give like free like, like do the makeup thing and everything and they just, their face is like, they've been there all day so they've got nothing to do
Starting point is 00:28:03 but add more and more makeup to their face. So by like 3pm, they just look like they're doing like all day. So they've got nothing to do but add more and more makeup to their face. So by like 3pm, they just look like they're doing like, they're like an anchor person for like the clown network. Yes. My best friend used to work at Saks. She was a makeup person at Aileen. She used to be a makeup person at Saks.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Sometimes I would come in there and I was like, are you in toddlers and tiaras? What? What are you doing? Are you about to do synchronized swimming? Why is there so much makeup on your face right now? You don't have to wear it all. She's like, but it's all free.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's all here. I can try anything. So, Lexi is saying how like her sister's moved in into her two bedroom apartment, of course. And then her mom is also always visiting and because it's important to keep the team together because they have to go to like meetings and stuff and make sure like everything is all right.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I mean, you're a model like me, you need like a team and you need a team around you at all times. So my sister's there and then my mom's there. And it's like all of us, like I don't even know where we sleep because like my sister has a room but then my mom doesn't have a room, but we all end up in the same bed anyway. Here's where you all need to end up,
Starting point is 00:29:11 the same hairdresser and you all need to, you need to get your mother and your sister's hair fixed cause they both look like frizzy frazzy, home leached. What are you letting, why are you letting your team walk around like that? I get that they only come to New York sometimes, but do they have to go to Fantastic Sam's before they come? New York has salons, fix their hair.
Starting point is 00:29:31 You basic bees. And then they're all like, oh my God, it's Bessa Martini's. Oh my God, you guys are so crazy. I know, everything about it was so. Were they out of Cosmopolitans? It was so embarrassing, oh my God. They're like, just three girls. So then Lexi's mom was like
Starting point is 00:29:45 oh my god I remember when I had to drop I remember dropping you off in New York City I left you off at that model apartment and I just felt so hopeless and I drove home and I thought my girl is in a model apartment how am I ever going to hell I think we would FaceTime you every day. I remember that, honey. We'd FaceTime you and I would just stop and be like, honey, put on more lip liner, please. Put on more lip liner, do it for me.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And then they all start crying. She's like, I'm crying now. I'm like, sick, oh my God, mom, now you're gonna make me cry. And then Tiffany's like, I'm crying too. And she's not, but she's holding a napkin to her tear like she is. I make fun of these people a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I love Tiffany now. She is so crazy faced. And also they seem legit like they love each other, which I think is nice too. I have to say, I agree. When she told the story about how like they're in the same apartment, but they just wind up in the same bed together, I was like rolling my eyes, but secretly I was also kind of like,
Starting point is 00:30:47 that's actually adorable. Yeah, because you expect when you see a character like Tiffany, you know, Tiffany, she doesn't get the same money to do her hair, her makeup, her clothes, or her face. And she looks crazy, and she's got that big smile, but she's like, ah, Tiffany! And I assumed that she was gonna be that bitter sister
Starting point is 00:31:08 who has to work for the model. They live off the model and part of her wants that sister to die. That's the kind of energy I like, where she's like, I work for my sister. She's a fat bitch, isn't she? But it's not, she's actually really loves her sister. I'm like, they wanna support the sister, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I know, don't forget, they're Canadian.'m like they want to support the sister. It's weird. I know don't forget their Canadian That means they're just very nice people They're very nice The sister Tiffany is hilarious to me. I mean, I really like that when she puts on her makeup every day She's like, you know what today? I want this makeup to make me look like the FAO Schwarz clock and she does it and she succeeds every time. I Want to look like the anime version of Tom Hanks in that weird movie about the train.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Anime, not Polar Express. But what is it called? CGI? Yeah, whatever they did. Polar Express? Yeah, I want to look like CGI Tom Hanks. Okay, but yeah, Tiffany, it's just so funny that mom's like, we're crying now, Tiffany. She's like, oh yeah, I'm crying too.
Starting point is 00:32:07 The family that cries together puts on lip liner together. So now we go to the American Cancer Society at Hope Lodge, we're going to the Hope Lodge where Jesse is putting on an event for Hope Lodge. Hope Lodge is a place where people can stay for free if they're getting cancer treatments in New York City because it's really expensive to stay in New York City. So it's really good cause.
Starting point is 00:32:25 How many people are gonna see this show and try and pull the cancer card? You know they are, because it's so expensive to stay there. I was like, I know. I also think it's a nice place actually. And you get cookies at dinner. It is really nice, and it's a great counterpoint to Summer House, which I often call the Hopeless Lodge.
Starting point is 00:32:41 So it's nice to see the real one, the positive one. Oh my god. It's actually good to see this thing. It's this charity thing for the year. She's like, yeah, you know, Hopeless Lodge, I had cancer. I'm helping out, you know, it's good to get back. So the friends are all coming to support him, and that's nice.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And Lindsay's there, and she's like, I'm one of the helpers, I'm an animal, I'm an animal. And she's the only one who actually looks like she works there for some reason, because she's got that full on apron on and she's, I guess maybe because she's pregnant too. And she's like, what do you want? But also like Lindsay helping out when she goes, okay, I'm gonna help out.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm gonna start this lemonade. And there's like a little pitcher of lemonade. She just takes a spoon and swirls it. I was like, great effort there, Lindsay. You really chose the hardest task you could do for this charity, putting a spoon in a spoon and swirls it. I was like, great effort there, Lindsay. You really chose the hardest task you could do for this charity, putting a spoon in a pitcher and swirling it. And Sierra says, this is the most wholesome thing
Starting point is 00:33:34 we've ever done, like good for us. We need to do more. I'm not going to, but we should. I hope you guys don't mind. I'm just gonna put all the contents of my purse on top of this buffet. Pshh, of course, and all of it. So Jesse makes a nice little speech about his journey and how the perspective he got from going through cancer,
Starting point is 00:33:54 which is very nice. And there's a lady who's crying. It's a nice moment. And then afterwards, Sierra's talking to Carl about Montauk and Sierra's saying, Carl's like, so, I met a cute girl there in Montauk and we just had like a lot of fun and it felt good to get back in the saddle, learn how
Starting point is 00:34:10 to date again and yeah, we all sleep over and finally broke the tree. You can see where it goes. So basically he had sex, which is fine, but like he just, here's why I got annoyed because Carl is acting like all these things that he's done like for the past, you know, 15 to 20 years of his life, probably 15 to 20 years of his life, probably 20 to 25 years of his life, he's acting like, oh my God, how do I do it again? When he was only off the market for 18 months
Starting point is 00:34:33 and he's like, oh, guys, I had sex. I had sex again, I did it. But you know in that moment he wasn't like, oh, treat me carefully. He was just like, yeah, let's fuck. Because you know, because the cameras weren't there, I fully believe they went on a date and they had sex. But he's like, guys, I got past my intimacy issues
Starting point is 00:34:50 and I finally made love to a woman softly. Well, sober sex is different, I will say. Especially if you've only had non-sober sex, you're like, oh God, I have to do this sober? That's very different. So maybe it's that. He makes it sound like it's all Lindsay, but I think it's partly that too.
Starting point is 00:35:09 You have to relearn it when you're not fucked up. But yeah, he is like, oh my God, you guys, I finally got to that point where I could stick my wiener in something. They're like, oh my God, Carl, you deserve your own parade. And so then Jesse and Sierra are joking around and she kind of jokingly grabs his arms, she's like, ah ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And he's like, Sierra enough with the touching, come on. And she's like, ha ha, ha ha, wait, really? She has to look like, are you serious right now? I goes, yeah, because I'm the one who got yelled at last time, like, you, you're so gross. Like that's such a, like, you don't have to make her feel shitty because of your actions.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And so she's like, sorry, okay. So then she's like, no, no. He's like, yeah, stay away. She's like, no, no. And she's basically like, yeah, last time I tried, you were the one who was touching me, right? Because he's doing it so big that he's clearly doing it so Lexi will see him.
Starting point is 00:36:11 He was trying to do something performative for Lexi and then later he can be like, Lexi, Ciara was all over me and I put a stop to it. I just want you to know that. Yeah, he's gonna villainize Ciara when it was not flirty at all and she's not interested in him that way, you know? So now we go to a place called the glass ceiling rooftop
Starting point is 00:36:28 where Paige, Amanda, and Sierra gather and spend a lot of time ordering food in a disorganized way. I'll have a soda, I'll have a soda too, and also a water, and a water, and also some wings. Can I not have the soda? And you know what, scratch the wings. I'll have some of your sticks instead. Can I have the this soda? And you know what, scratch the wings. I'll have celery sticks instead. Can I have this wings instead?
Starting point is 00:36:48 And can I have another soda with that as well? And then you know what, I will have the wings after all. So well wings, no celery sticks. Hold the celery sticks and add a burger to that. No burger for me though. Sorry, I'm anxiety. And Sierra says, so this weekend we both shoot out in Role. Well, I didn't, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I was basically like, are you keeping track? Like why not save for like all the other days of the week? Like do you only fuck when I'm in the house trying to get sleep? Are you only fucking people when I have anxiety? What is it? Well, what's going on with Craig? Well, he came over and he asked how long like like, things are going to be like this, you
Starting point is 00:37:27 know, with the tour and everything. And I was like, look, you are so valid in your feelings. They may be very dumb and very stupid, but you're valid, I guess. Not really. I mean, not in my eyes, you're not valid, but to yourself, you're valid. I guess that matters. But like, when you say it like that, like you're sort of also disregarding, like, I'm not doing giggly squat things.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And you're like, not. And like, that's not cool. that make me feel bad about that. You're valid in having feelings, even when they're stupid feelings. So I just want you to know that, okay? Oh Paige, oh my God, you're so nice. And Craig basically said, you know, she said, I feel kind of like you're
Starting point is 00:38:00 disregarding my feelings, you know? Like you're disregarding what I'm doing with your feelings. And she says that he said, he understands that she feels undermined, but he, I just wanna make sure that like, you have time for me, you know? Cause I miss you. Yeah, well, anything I'm feeling,
Starting point is 00:38:18 I don't have the bandwidth to deal with until after the tour. Like I feel so weak for even saying that I have feelings cause like, ugh. But you know, gross. But you know, I do. And I've just felt guilty because you know, now I've said all that stuff on camera that I said to Sierra last week
Starting point is 00:38:34 and ah, I just feel terrible. So Sierra was like, well guys, want to hear about this bullshit. So it was like having, you know, the charity event was like really nice, it was really sweet, but then I'm like cracking a joke with Jesse and I touched his arm and he's like, don't touch me. And I was like, are you serious?
Starting point is 00:38:50 And he was like, yeah, cause I'm the one who gets yelled at. And I was like, he got yelled at. I'm so jealous. And Sierra's like, yeah, it'd be different if I was making out with him, but like, gross. Oh no, but like he's someone who showed up at our party being like, if I didn't show up late last year,
Starting point is 00:39:06 then who knows, maybe I could have dated you. That is crazy. By the way, can I have some more water? I mean, iced tea. Actually, make it a diet Coke. Would you have salmon that you could put inside of it? I'm just kidding, don't do that. Bring me whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Don't bring me the wrong thing. So Sierra, this is where Sierra's like, well, he has some nerve saying that because then we see the montage of how handsy Jesse is. And Sierra's like- Wait a minute, could you show me that clip again? Okay, I see him getting on top of you. I see two of your arms kind of pushing him off,
Starting point is 00:39:36 but then I see a third arm coming around and poking him in the head. Sierra, do you have three arms? She's like, no. What are you talking about? Okay, must be in my imagination. Wow, that's some real Russian sci-fi shit right there. So, Sierra's basically like-
Starting point is 00:39:52 Don't you mean yet? Don't you mean yet? Don't you mean yet? Don't you mean yet? Sierra's like, I'm like, honestly, Jesse, don't come in my room, don't even come around me, you know how I am, so if you really wanna play that game, your feelings will be hurt at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:40:04 because I won't even look at you. Like, uh-oh, Sierra is going into ice squee mode with Jesse and he will not be able to deal with it whatsoever. Yeah, she has a good point because she's like, he's going to come from me for touching him. And then they show him last week, like crawling on top of her or two weeks ago, crawling on top of her on the pool thing. I mean, like you're a 10 and all of that stuff. So then we see next week, guys, I was so afraid we weren't gonna have any more weak-willed, wishy-washy, wussy men coming, but here's Schwartz. He's like, hi guys, it's me, Schwartz.
Starting point is 00:40:37 He's making his rounds. After his appearance on The Valley, now he will be on Summer House, and maybe the week after that, maybe he'll show up on like, I don't know, Real Housewives of Atlanta. Who knows? Yeah. So then we also get a confrontation with Lexi and Jesse where she's like, um, I heard from my mom who heard from my sister who told me to my face in bed that you've been
Starting point is 00:41:00 shit talking me and you've been saying like, I'm a crazy jealous girl and stuff like that, how dare you? I have a recording of it because I put a recording device in your kitchen, not sorry. Dump him, dump him right now, ew gross, dump him, do it, it'll be hilarious. Yeah, Paige is like, if you're not fully in this, you should walk away, where did Lexi go? I saw a beam of light and then she was gone.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Donk, donk. Ooh. Wow, what a commentary on Stalinist policies. Don't criticize the government, am I right? The government's Craig. Boop, spoiler alert. Craig is Stalin. Craig is communism.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Okay, anyway, thanks everyone for being here. What a fun summer house. We'll be back next week. We'll have Top Chef on Monday as well as our entire slate of shows. So looking forward to that and we will catch you on the next episode. Bye everyone. Bye. Watch what crap ins would like to thank its premium sponsors.
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